WEBVTT - Part 2: A Dangerous Woman

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<v Speaker 1>Date on time of autopsy March third, two sixteen. The

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<v Speaker 1>calabric corresponds to one adult female. Three bullets, all fired

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<v Speaker 1>from a Smith and Wesson thirty eight special. It ripped

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<v Speaker 1>through her body complexion average body condition, intact height one

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<v Speaker 1>and sixty three cimes, rigidity complete. One bullet entered her

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<v Speaker 1>left arm and continued into her side. It pierced her

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<v Speaker 1>left lung before lodging in her right one alterations observed

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<v Speaker 1>de curtive tattoo on left upper third of back. Another

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<v Speaker 1>bullet entered her left shoulder at an upward angle. It

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<v Speaker 1>continued toward her neck, bursting the jugular vein and an artery.

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<v Speaker 1>A third bullet entered her her upper back. It tore

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<v Speaker 1>through her left lung, then her diaphragm, then her stomach,

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<v Speaker 1>her adrenal gland, and finally fractured one of her vertebrae.

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<v Speaker 1>Singer Print examination revealed that the corps registered as autopsy

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<v Speaker 1>three two thousand and sixteen belongs to perte Ses. The

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<v Speaker 1>medical cause of death was obvious to the coroner, but

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<v Speaker 1>you'd never find the real cause by tracing those bullets.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that, you have to follow the path of

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<v Speaker 1>Berta's life as an activist. It starts in her childhood home.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm monte Reel, an investigative journalist for Bloomberg Green. This

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<v Speaker 1>is Blood Rivermento. Barretta's mother's name is Austra Flores. She's

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<v Speaker 1>showing me around the family home in La Speranza, a

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<v Speaker 1>small city in western Honduras. The rooms where bear To

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<v Speaker 1>slept and worked for years remained pretty much as she

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<v Speaker 1>left them. Her mother shows me Berta's old work files,

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<v Speaker 1>her high school awards, and some of the rag dolls

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<v Speaker 1>she liked to collect, including a little brown one Barretta's favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Austro wears her gray hair long, pulled back in a

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<v Speaker 1>loose ponytail. Her eighty seven years have been full of challenges.

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<v Speaker 1>She mothered twelve children. More recently, she suffered three strokes

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<v Speaker 1>and a brain hemorrhage. But she's still sharp, and her

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<v Speaker 1>memories of Berta are especially vivid. She was the youngest

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<v Speaker 1>of the twelve, and Austra calls her Bertita an endearing

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<v Speaker 1>way of saying, little Berta was a tireless fighter, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that yes, she learned a lot from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Austro was born in nine three. That same year, the

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<v Speaker 1>National Party of Honduras took control of the presidency. That

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<v Speaker 1>party still exists. It's one of the two most powerful

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<v Speaker 1>political coalitions in the country, the more conservative one. The

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<v Speaker 1>National Party has evolved over the decades, of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of its early leaders were classic authority arians. They

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<v Speaker 1>cracked down on labor unions and the press. They jailed

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<v Speaker 1>political enemies and even outlawed opposition parties. They denied citizenship

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<v Speaker 1>and the right to vote to women, and they routinely

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<v Speaker 1>exploited indigenous communities for cheap labor. These events in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirties and forties would shape the destiny of the

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<v Speaker 1>Cassias family for generations. Austra's father was a critic of

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<v Speaker 1>the National Party. He spent nearly five years in jail

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<v Speaker 1>as a dissident. Austra would grow up to work as

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<v Speaker 1>a midwife. She guesses she delivered something like five thousand

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<v Speaker 1>babies over sixty years. Most of them were born in

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<v Speaker 1>the countryside in small indigenous communities in the nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 1>and eighties. Her youngest daughter often could be found at

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<v Speaker 1>her side, the depicting am Anna from when she was

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<v Speaker 1>little would come with me, sometimes attending their births she'd

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<v Speaker 1>hold a little candle to give me light because there

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<v Speaker 1>was no electricity, and she'd bring me water she boiled it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how she became aware that working on behalf

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<v Speaker 1>of women was a necessity. Women, indigenous communities, the poor.

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<v Speaker 1>These had been the underdogs in Honduras, the people that

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<v Speaker 1>history hadn't been kind to. They inspired Austra to get

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<v Speaker 1>involved in politics, and this was at a time when

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<v Speaker 1>women in Honduras almost never did this. Austra became the

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<v Speaker 1>first female mayor of La Speranza, then a provincial governor,

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<v Speaker 1>later a member of the Honduran National Congress. Erta watched

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<v Speaker 1>and learned, and as she got older, her own personality emerged.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mother had raised her Catholic, but as Berta grew up,

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<v Speaker 1>she began embracing Lenka traditions. The Lenka are the largest

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<v Speaker 1>indigenous group in Honduras, but their language and traditions were

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<v Speaker 1>largely lost obliterated by modern mainstream culture. This happened well

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<v Speaker 1>before Berta was born, but an effort to reclaim and

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<v Speaker 1>protect those traditions really started taking off in the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>When Berta was a teenager. She embraced that movement and

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<v Speaker 1>it helps shape her identity as a student activist. Her

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<v Speaker 1>older brother says, by the time they were in high

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<v Speaker 1>school together, he knew his sister was a leader and

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<v Speaker 1>a rebel too. Yeah, it was ACiE. She was the

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<v Speaker 1>president of her class and later of an entire school system,

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<v Speaker 1>and if ever they expelled from it unfairly, she was

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<v Speaker 1>always fighting for them. She even let us strike that

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<v Speaker 1>we called against the school directors, who were in a

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<v Speaker 1>way dictatorial. Dictatorial back then, in the eighties and early nineties,

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<v Speaker 1>neighboring El Salvador was torn by civil war. The Cassari's

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<v Speaker 1>family sympathized with the leftist rebels there, the ones fighting

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<v Speaker 1>against the Salvadoran government. The family sheltered refugees in their home.

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<v Speaker 1>After bear To graduated high school, she traveled to El

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<v Speaker 1>Salvador to join the cause. She didn't take up arms,

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<v Speaker 1>but she supported fighting units as a sort of field

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<v Speaker 1>medic and radio operator. Bearts a return to Lasperanza in

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<v Speaker 1>after less than a year in El Salvador. At home,

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<v Speaker 1>she continued to embrace leftist causes. Members of the local

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<v Speaker 1>police and the military now considered her a political agitator,

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<v Speaker 1>and their suspicions extended to the whole Castra's family. Berta's

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<v Speaker 1>brother remembers how encounters that seemed innocent at first could

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<v Speaker 1>take unexpected turns Ama someone knocked on the door here

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<v Speaker 1>and asked Mama if she would come and assist with

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<v Speaker 1>a birth because Austra agreed to go with them in

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<v Speaker 1>a taxi, but it was a trap. Police and soldiers

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded the car and hauled her into the station. Barta

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<v Speaker 1>was just nineteen or twenty years old when she heard

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<v Speaker 1>her mother had been arrested. She snapped into action. Bertita

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<v Speaker 1>started calling around town and the people started to mobilize.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Betta who went to the police station arguing

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<v Speaker 1>for Mama. Fighting for Mama. There was a protest with

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<v Speaker 1>a about three thousand people there. They took over the

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<v Speaker 1>entire police station to the Amanda release of Mama, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was organized by Bertita and my other siblings did.

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<v Speaker 1>By her early twenties, Marita was on her way to

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<v Speaker 1>becoming the loudest voice for indigenous and women's rights in

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<v Speaker 1>western Honduras, and by her thirties she'd become a national figure.

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<v Speaker 1>She often traveled to the capital to goose Galpa to

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<v Speaker 1>lobby for her causes. After President manuel's Eliah was elected

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand six, her influence grew. She wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>member of his party, but he sometimes supported her opposition

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<v Speaker 1>to mining and hydro electric projects on indigenous lands, and

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<v Speaker 1>she supported his proposal to rewrite the country constitution, a

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<v Speaker 1>move that caused the Honduran establishment to rebel against Zaliah's administration.

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<v Speaker 1>The Honduran military in particular, considered it a threat to

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<v Speaker 1>the country's traditional order. Then, on June two thousand nine

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<v Speaker 1>on during politics and the trajectory of Berta's life took

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<v Speaker 1>a very sharp turn. It all began at dawn on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>when some two hundred soldiers surrounded the president's private home.

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<v Speaker 1>They took him at gunpoint and flew him out of

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<v Speaker 1>the country to neighbor in Costa Rica, soldiers kidnapped President Zeliah.

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<v Speaker 1>They smuggled him out of the country in his pajamas.

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<v Speaker 1>The National Party, the same one that had imprisoned Berta's grandfather,

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<v Speaker 1>took power instantly. Berta became a national leader of a

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<v Speaker 1>new resistance movement. When the military oversaw a new round

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<v Speaker 1>of elections, Barton and others urged the public to boycott

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<v Speaker 1>the vote. She said, the same people who launched a

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<v Speaker 1>coup couldn't be trusted to make the process fair. Hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of local and national candidates dropped out, but the election

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<v Speaker 1>went ahead anyway. The National Party consolidated its power and

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<v Speaker 1>now fully in control of the presidency and the National Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>The party's leaders wanted to send a message to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted other countries to know that things would be

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<v Speaker 1>different here from now on. The government adopted a new catchphrase,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was in English, as if composed especially for

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign audience. The slogan was h O B. Honduras

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<v Speaker 1>is open for business. For business in the new Honduran

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<v Speaker 1>government held an international business conference to sell the idea

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<v Speaker 1>to investors. The new leader of Congress, Juan Orlando Hernandez,

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<v Speaker 1>told the audience that Honduras was prepared to cash in

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<v Speaker 1>on one of its most valuable natural resources. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to take advantage of the enormous potential of our rivers

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<v Speaker 1>to build large dams and medium sized dams, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>awarded around fifty contracts for clean energy with a clear

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<v Speaker 1>message that this is the route we want to take

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. For moments, I had Clara the Honduran business

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<v Speaker 1>elite rallied together to create companies that would build these

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<v Speaker 1>new hydro electric projects. One of these companies was called Dessa.

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<v Speaker 1>The government gave it the go ahead to build a

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<v Speaker 1>dam on the Gualcrate River, a few hours drive from

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<v Speaker 1>Las Bonanza. The project was called I was Zarca, and

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as that project was set, Dessa was on

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<v Speaker 1>a collision course with Berta. The Awa Zarka project was

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<v Speaker 1>considered a small dam by industry standards. The original plans

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<v Speaker 1>called for a damn wall that was about forty six

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<v Speaker 1>ft tall. At its highest point, there was to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mile long tunnel, a reservoir, and a power station.

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<v Speaker 1>Berta and the Rio Blanco residents who opposed the project

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<v Speaker 1>argued that the impacts would be devastating. The dam would

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<v Speaker 1>disrupt the flow of the river and degrade the land

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<v Speaker 1>they depended on for crops. But beyond those environmental impacts,

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<v Speaker 1>they argued that the Rio Gualcrate is sacred to the

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<v Speaker 1>link of people. They say the river is their life blood.

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<v Speaker 1>But almost everything about the project violated Berta's worldview. The

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<v Speaker 1>government was saying that this private company DSA would finally

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<v Speaker 1>bring critical infrastructure to the tiny communities by the river,

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<v Speaker 1>paved roads, electricity, schools. But in a radio interview in

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<v Speaker 1>less than a year before she died, bear to explain

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<v Speaker 1>that she hated that idea. She didn't want to leave

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<v Speaker 1>those sorts of things to a company that was not

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<v Speaker 1>subject to public oversight. This is the obligation of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>of the government. We pay taxes for that. But if

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<v Speaker 1>communities have a school, it's usually only because they fought

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<v Speaker 1>and worked for it. So this is the duty of

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<v Speaker 1>the state. It's not that you have to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a private company for the right to have a road

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<v Speaker 1>the indicated Helona company. So many of Berta's preoccupations as

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<v Speaker 1>an activist came together in this project. Her environmentalism, her

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<v Speaker 1>skepticism that a for profit business could reliably serve the

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<v Speaker 1>public interest, and then there was the politics of it all.

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<v Speaker 1>All of this was backed by the National Party, a

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<v Speaker 1>group her family had been fighting for generations. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like Berta's whole life had led her straight toward a reckoning.

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<v Speaker 1>On that river. You can run for it. Oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a van and it's January. More than three years

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<v Speaker 1>after Berta was killed, a member of Copeine, Berta's activist

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<v Speaker 1>organization is with me, as well as a guide who's

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of the casserous Emily. We're heading towards Rio Blanco,

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<v Speaker 1>a town near the Gualcrate River. The plan for today

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<v Speaker 1>is to meet people who worked alongside Bertha. I was

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<v Speaker 1>warned that this trip could be risky. There's only one

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<v Speaker 1>road that leads to Rio Blanco, the activists say. Locals

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<v Speaker 1>who supported the Agua Zarka project have been known to

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<v Speaker 1>attack people they believe are connected to Copeine. While we're driving,

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<v Speaker 1>it starts to rain, and soon, just a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>miles before we reach our destination, our van gets stuck

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<v Speaker 1>on a muddy road in precisely the worst place to

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<v Speaker 1>get stuck. We're directly in front of a group of houses.

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<v Speaker 1>The activists tell me most of the attacks have happened

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<v Speaker 1>Right here. Inside the van is Raoul, my copine friendly guide,

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<v Speaker 1>and an activist named Dunia. They huddled together trying to

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<v Speaker 1>brainstorm away out of this jam. Okay, so I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what options do we have? Um? She said, and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>what about if we get beasts? And then she says

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<v Speaker 1>the problem will be leaving the car here, because they

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<v Speaker 1>have even attempted to set coping cars on fire, and

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<v Speaker 1>there were only reason they couldn't set it on fire

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<v Speaker 1>was because there was a crowd here like looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the car. That would not be good. One option we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have is calling someone. Our cell phones are not

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<v Speaker 1>getting reception. And as we sit stuck in the mud,

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<v Speaker 1>several people begin coming out of their homes. I see

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<v Speaker 1>someone pacing at the top of the hill. Our van

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to climb dune. You grew up around here,

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<v Speaker 1>and she recognizes his face. So here's a guy on

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<v Speaker 1>the hill top kind of walking around here with a machete.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said that that guy his family has been

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<v Speaker 1>harassing her family. It's not looking good. She's a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit concerned about being attacked. It's really hard to stop

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<v Speaker 1>looking at that machete, and pretty soon we noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>he's not the only person carrying one. In rural Honduras,

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<v Speaker 1>machetes are a pretty common sight for farmers here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>just a tool of the trade. But in the conflict

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.440
<v Speaker 1>over the Awazarka Damn, machetes have been a weapon of choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Our driver, Rony, sits still for a moment behind the wheel,

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<v Speaker 1>letting everything sink in. Then he slams his palm onto

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<v Speaker 1>the side of his head three times, almost tass Ronnie,

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<v Speaker 1>almost bass see how he was, and he said stressed.

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<v Speaker 1>So here we are trapped. The vans, we ehels are

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<v Speaker 1>spinning and spraying mud everywhere, but we're not budging. And

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<v Speaker 1>all the while more people keep coming out of the

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<v Speaker 1>houses and they just stand there staring at us. This

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<v Speaker 1>goes on for about forty five minutes. The standoff is

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<v Speaker 1>an appropriate introduction to Rio Blanco. The threat of violence

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:34.880
<v Speaker 1>has become this community's defining feature. Eventually, some people approach

0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>the van from behind. DOONI recognizes them, their friends. They

0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.320
<v Speaker 1>offer us a ride in a truck that's a lot

0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.879
<v Speaker 1>more agile in the mud than our vehicle. We hopped

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<v Speaker 1>in and make it up the little hill, pass the

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<v Speaker 1>staring onlookers and pass their machetes. Safe. Before the damn

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<v Speaker 1>came into our community, this was a community that was

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<v Speaker 1>nice and clean. We were able to go out onto

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<v Speaker 1>the road in the dark. And now we can't, or

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<v Speaker 1>we can't, but we're torn to pieces. So that's why,

0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.280
<v Speaker 1>and even now it's still the case. This damn came

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<v Speaker 1>in and tore our community apart. There's this was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people we'd come to see. Maria Santo Dominguez,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone else in this tiny village. She lives in

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<v Speaker 1>a cramped cinder block house. Pigs and chickens root in

0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the yard by the outhouse. Sometimes they try to wander

0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.240
<v Speaker 1>in the front door. When officials from Deessa, the hydro

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<v Speaker 1>Electric company, came here in they promised electricity, new roads,

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and new schools. Some of the locals welcomed that attention,

0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:01.919
<v Speaker 1>but Maria was skeptical. Her family got water from the

0:21:01.960 --> 0:21:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Gualcaque River they grew corn along its banks. When Bert

0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Casseres began organizing local opposition to the project, Maria became

0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>one of her most loyal companions. If we weren't organized,

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.919
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't still be here, because the damn, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>dam of death. Dessa had hired Sino Hydro, a Chinese contractor,

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<v Speaker 1>to handle construction. In early Sino Hydro established a work

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<v Speaker 1>site a couple of miles from Maria's house. She worked

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:41.360
<v Speaker 1>with Copeine to help erect roadblocks to prevent construction equipment

0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:45.000
<v Speaker 1>from moving in and out, but some of Maria's neighbors,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who supported the project took offense. Things come

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<v Speaker 1>to a head that summer. One morning, Maria is walking

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<v Speaker 1>beside a dirt road when several neighbors surround her, three men,

0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:06.320
<v Speaker 1>two women. The men are holding machetes, the women carry

0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:11.280
<v Speaker 1>heavy sticks. They tell her she's strangling the local economy.

0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 1>What else, That's why we live in poverty, they told me,

0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 1>because I don't allow projects to come in that would

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<v Speaker 1>help everyone. And I told them, no, you're so wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>because what they're doing will only contaminate the water, the land.

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<v Speaker 1>They told me, okay, woman, what we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>is kill you. And when they told me they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to kill me, that's when I felt the first blow.

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<v Speaker 1>The first strike of the machete hit me in the head,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that another machete hit me here in the chest,

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:53.040
<v Speaker 1>and then there was another that got my finger. That

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 1>finger falls away, severed. She's bleeding from wounds in her

0:22:57.080 --> 0:23:00.320
<v Speaker 1>chest and her head. As Maria is being attacked, her

0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:04.040
<v Speaker 1>husband arrives on the scene. The attackers turn on him.

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<v Speaker 1>They slash him with a machete, heading into his hand,

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<v Speaker 1>his forehead, and the skin around his left eye. When

0:23:17.920 --> 0:23:20.720
<v Speaker 1>the carnage is over, the two of them are rushed

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<v Speaker 1>to a hospital. They spend eight days they're recovering. Maria

0:23:25.200 --> 0:23:28.800
<v Speaker 1>says they were still healing when a fellow coping activist

0:23:28.880 --> 0:23:33.399
<v Speaker 1>named Thomas Garcia helps organize an impromptu protest at the

0:23:33.400 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Sino Hydro construction site. Maria refers to Thomas as her

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>ermano or brother in the sense that they were fighting

0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>for the same cause. And yeah, so the day before that,

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<v Speaker 1>the police came and they offered my brother twenty lympidas

0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty thousand lympires at the time was worth about four

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty dollars. That's a lot of money in

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>a place like this, more than a month's worth of

0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:10.440
<v Speaker 1>income for a lot of people, Maria says. Tomas Garcia

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<v Speaker 1>refused the offer. She says he considered it a bribe,

0:24:15.280 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>something to make sure he wouldn't stir up trouble for Deessa.

0:24:19.160 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>She says, the company and the local police seemed to

0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:29.239
<v Speaker 1>be working together. Company officials vehemently deny these allegations, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will fully explore their version of these events later

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:39.040
<v Speaker 1>in this series. But Maria insists the offer was a bribe,

0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 1>and so my brother said that there was no way

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<v Speaker 1>he was ever going to negotiate that he wasn't going

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>to go against his partners in this struggle. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>if he dies, it's better to die clean. He could

0:24:51.160 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 1>never get involved in that kind of negotiating. The next

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>day is July, the of the protest, and it will

0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.679
<v Speaker 1>define the conflict on the river up until the moment

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:08.680
<v Speaker 1>where it gets killed. That morning, Thomas and the other

0:25:08.720 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 1>protesters gathered near the village to make the track to

0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:18.280
<v Speaker 1>the construction site. Thomas's seventeen year old son Alan tagged along. Today,

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Alan is twenty four years old. From there, we started

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to leave at exactly eight o'clock in the morning, and

0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 1>we arrived at the site around ten o'clock. There we

0:25:35.440 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>found soldiers and police and some of the officials from

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 1>the company. Just then when we entered the site, they

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:50.680
<v Speaker 1>shot my father, well, they assassinated him and they shot

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<v Speaker 1>me too. It was a soldier from see what the pick?

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<v Speaker 1>So that easy what the pick. The security force that

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<v Speaker 1>protected the work site was a mix of civilian and

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:15.600
<v Speaker 1>military guards. Alan disputes the story that the soldier who

0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>fired the shots later told the guards said he fired

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.240
<v Speaker 1>in self defense because Alan's father was threatening him with

0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>a machete. Alan survived three gunshot wounds to the chest

0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and back. His father was killed instantly. So even now,

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:38.240
<v Speaker 1>nearly seven years after those incidents, the wounds still feel

0:26:38.280 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>fresh for those who lived through them. After my first

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>trip to Rio Blanco with Copaine members, I returned about

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>a week later. This time I wanted a different perspective.

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I was with community members who had supported the Damn

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>project and Desa. The roads had dried out by now,

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>but I was shocked when they drove me to the

0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:04.479
<v Speaker 1>exact spot where the van had been stuck the week before.

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:08.119
<v Speaker 1>They led me on foot towards the very house that

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Copeine had described as the most dangerous one in Rio Blanco.

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.560
<v Speaker 1>They told me this was the home of the Madrid family.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I recognized the name. Reports by various nonprofit groups outlining

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>the tensions here had mentioned the Madrids. One report I

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>had read from said the family had tried to intimidate

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>opponents of the Damn through quote constant harassment. It was

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 1>the Madrid's who had sold Dessa the land that would

0:27:37.359 --> 0:27:40.680
<v Speaker 1>become its work site. This was a family that clearly

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<v Speaker 1>and emphatically sided with the company. As I approached the

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Madrid house, coffee beans were drying in the sun. We

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>walked around the back of the house. There we found

0:27:52.280 --> 0:27:56.959
<v Speaker 1>the family matriarch, sixty four year old Erinea Madrid. She

0:27:57.080 --> 0:28:00.600
<v Speaker 1>was washing her hair in a cistern she'd held off,

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>combed her hair and we sat down to talk a

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Milion Massa Lanco. The family that has been the most

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>affected in Rio Blanco has been the Madrid family, all

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:20.359
<v Speaker 1>because the institution of Copine, that lady Berta Cases came

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 1>here and poisoned the people. These ignorant people, ignorant of

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>a project that was going to move this community forward,

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>because she was only looking for benefits for herself. Solo

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Aarona was inside this house the day of the tragic

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>protest in when the conflict carved permanent riffs in this community.

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>The fifteenth of July was a Monday. I can never

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>forget it. It was Monday, and they marched by here, yelling, yelling, yelling,

0:28:55.760 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>until they got to the work site Ritundo. No more

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:07.600
<v Speaker 1>than an hour later, just after Thomas and Alan Garcia

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 1>had been shot, she heard more commotion. It was coming

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>from the field directly behind the house. Her grandson Christiane

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>had just headed down there and so the boy walks

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 1>down there. We have a pasture and there are cows

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>down there that the boy takes care of. Every day.

0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Christiane would milk the cows and give some to the

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>workers at the Sino Hydro site. They're in that pasture

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>with the cows. A group of men returning from the

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:49.280
<v Speaker 1>deadly protest encountered the boy. Joey. I heard the shots,

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 1>but never did I imagine, Never did it cross my

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 1>mind that these people were going to repay me in

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>this way, because I before the eyes of my God,

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel that I had freely eaten and drank them freely,

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:03.840
<v Speaker 1>as with all my friends. Never could I have imagined

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>they'd pay me like this by killing that boy who

0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with this Copeene denies involvement in

0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that killing, but Aarona is convinced that the protesters took

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the boy's life in exchange for Thomas Garcias Christian was

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>fourteen years old, his mother had died giving birth to him.

0:30:28.880 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Erna was technically his grandmother, but she'd raised him as

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:37.160
<v Speaker 1>her son. As aaron Ea tells me the story, I

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.520
<v Speaker 1>noticed there's a picture of a boy on the wall

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:43.720
<v Speaker 1>behind her. As she talks He's wearing a blue suit

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and tie. A caption printed above the image reads, Christiane,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 1>you live in the heart of our family and the Belos.

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I took hold of him eight hours after he was born,

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>and so that's why this has cost me so many tears.

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I said to God, leave him for me, because I

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>need him in my life, you know, I mean, my boy,

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 1>how can it be? And it hurts me? These things

0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:36.400
<v Speaker 1>they've done are unfair. Yo. I have not been able

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>to overcome this, the death of my son. It's already

0:31:39.720 --> 0:32:02.560
<v Speaker 1>six years ago, but for me, it's like it was yesterday. Yeah, okay,

0:32:02.840 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Number Sergio Roriez. My name is Sergio Rodriguez. I'm a biologist.

0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I've been a consultant studying environmental impacts all of my

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>life twenty years, and I started working Fordessa in June

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 1>two thousand twelve. Then don't mean if the Awa Zarca

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Damn project had a face in the communities beside the

0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Rio gual cart it was Sergio Rodriguez. Several development banks

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.680
<v Speaker 1>in Europe and the America's were funding the project. To

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:44.200
<v Speaker 1>get that money, the company had to meet certain environmental standards.

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>It was Sergio's job to make sure that happened, and

0:32:49.080 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>when Deessa contracted with Sino Hydro, the Chinese company to

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 1>start construction in early Sergio also was tasked with maintaining

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>good nations with the people living nearby. He pitched the

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>promised up sides, the new roads, new schools, new jobs.

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Sergius says that at the time construction was set to

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>begin in the atmosphere in Rio Blanco was calm. In Shemo,

0:33:21.720 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>at first the project had good relations with the different

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>communities on both sides of the river and Inibuca and

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Santa Barbara. Then when dro started, we ran into a

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 1>few problems with its workers going on to properties without

0:33:37.240 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 1>asking permission, or when they were doing topographical work, they

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>cut down some of the corn fields and the machines

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>plowed up land and some of the neighbor's property. So

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>these little problems started day by day, and we were like, Okay,

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:59.959
<v Speaker 1>we have to fix this. We will fix this. Yeah.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>With Sergio's promises didn't satisfy the damn's opponents. Sergio puts

0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:08.479
<v Speaker 1>part of the blame on Berta. He says she tried

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to convince residents that the roads and schools would never

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>be built in July, Sergio says he wanted to work

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 1>things out with Berta. She agreed and they met for

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>the first time at a Copine run community center called

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Utopia in La Speranza Das. We were there talking with

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 1>them and we proposed a way to solve the conflict

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 1>and to guarantee the communities that the social projects would

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.359
<v Speaker 1>be completed and Copine could be in charge of them

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:49.719
<v Speaker 1>or they could supervise our construction of them, and their

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:58.280
<v Speaker 1>position was no. Three days later, in Rio Blanco, Tomask

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Garcia and his son Alan were shot at the demonstration.

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Young Christiane Madrid was killed in the family cow pasture went.

0:35:11.719 --> 0:35:15.759
<v Speaker 1>I went the next day and well, it was devastating

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>to see everything that had happened, painful because of the

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>deaths that had occurred, both of Tomas Garcia and Christian Madrid.

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Christian I knew him, and so we evacuated some things

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 1>from the site and the project was suspended. As such.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>In PRIs, project of Sergio filed criminal complaints against Berta

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 1>and Copeine. Cino Hydro abandoned the work site and never

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>came back. Dessa severed its relationship with the company soon thereafter.

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Sergio says Dessa wasn't happy with the way Sino Hydro

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:58.719
<v Speaker 1>had been operating anyway, and they hired a new contractor.

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Dessa executives came up with a plan to salvage the project.

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<v Speaker 1>They tweaked the design of the dam. Now it would

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<v Speaker 1>be what's called a run of the river hydro electric project.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of featuring a large dam wall, run of the

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<v Speaker 1>river project directs water into tunnels built beside the river

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<v Speaker 1>and into the power station. Then the water is rerouted

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<v Speaker 1>back to the river downstream, so there's usually much less

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<v Speaker 1>environmental impact. Additionally, Dessa moved the project to a new

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<v Speaker 1>location to avoid conflict. Then we moved the side of

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<v Speaker 1>the dam, relocating a two kilometers upstream where we had

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<v Speaker 1>one support and there was no problem. The move didn't

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<v Speaker 1>end the protests from Copeine. Even if the environmental impacts

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<v Speaker 1>were reduced, they didn't completely disappear. The protesters argued that

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<v Speaker 1>it was still a disruptive construction site. The river's aquatic

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<v Speaker 1>life and the strength of its flows could be altered.

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<v Speaker 1>Copaine planned one of its protests for February, just a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks before Berta was killed. Sergio says most

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<v Speaker 1>of the protesters were bust In from Latahea, a neighborhood

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<v Speaker 1>in Rio Blanco that's on the other side of the river,

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<v Speaker 1>near the previous side of the project. We had information

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<v Speaker 1>that Berta Casseres was going to come and that she

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<v Speaker 1>had as the residence of La Teja to cross the

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<v Speaker 1>river again and they were to occupy the project's property

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<v Speaker 1>for something like eight days. Because we knew this demonstration

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen, obviously, we called the police again

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and the police arrived before the protests started, until they

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<v Speaker 1>When Sergio got to the scene, he spotted a familiar

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<v Speaker 1>face among the demonstrators. I approached Berta Cassis and greeted her.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing, Berta, I asked her. I congratulated

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<v Speaker 1>her on the golden prize that they had given her

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<v Speaker 1>in and she told me, you're invited to come visit

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<v Speaker 1>the Utopia Center so you can see what we've done

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<v Speaker 1>with the price premier that he says was the extent

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<v Speaker 1>of their conversation. Sergio says it was the last time

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<v Speaker 1>he'd ever see her. About two weeks after that meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>Sergio's phone rang Sinco on the third of March at

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<v Speaker 1>five thirty in the morning, approximately I received a call

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<v Speaker 1>from Claudia Dasso, my colleague. She told me Sergio they Kilberta.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, what what happened? The como Sergey has searched

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<v Speaker 1>for news on TV. He made a few calls and

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he began exchanging text messages with others At Tessa, everyone

0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is like, what happened here? What's the latest, what's the

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<v Speaker 1>impact of this? And also, this is a crisis for

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<v Speaker 1>us because we're going to point the finger at us.

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<v Speaker 1>AGAs Arka was Copin's banner, so it was logical that

0:39:53.640 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>they're going to point to us. So Geo says he

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<v Speaker 1>expected investigators to come knocking on his door, and so

0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 1>he waited. Days passed than a week, then another week.

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<v Speaker 1>No one came in those days after the murder, Gustavo

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<v Speaker 1>Castro had emerged as a prime suspect for police. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican activist who was in the house with Bertha

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<v Speaker 1>on the night of the murder, and he'd been shot

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<v Speaker 1>in the hand in the year. You might remember that

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<v Speaker 1>when we last heard from him, he was detained at

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<v Speaker 1>an airport in Honduras. Authorities wouldn't let him leave the country,

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<v Speaker 1>so a couple more weeks past, Gustavo was now hold

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<v Speaker 1>up in the Mexican embassy in Honduras, the only place

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<v Speaker 1>he says he felt safe. The Honduran investigators were still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how he might be connected to

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the crime. Gustavo's brother flew in from Mexico to try

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<v Speaker 1>to help bring him home, but had no luck. They

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<v Speaker 1>took us to a room, and there they tell us

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<v Speaker 1>Gustavo Castro is now prohibited from leaving the country for

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<v Speaker 1>thirty days a little career. His lawyers asked to see

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<v Speaker 1>the court order declaring that he beheld in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>but Gustavo says there was no court order. So his

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers tried to fight back. They went to the courthouse

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Branza and filed two petitions. One was a

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<v Speaker 1>complaint about not being shown a court order. The other

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<v Speaker 1>asked that he be allowed to go home. And so

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<v Speaker 1>my lawyer comes back the next day and the judge

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<v Speaker 1>tells her he is suspending her from professional practice. In

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<v Speaker 1>other words, he said to my lawyer, it's ruled that

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot practice law for the next month, a suspension

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that can only be done by a bar association there's

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole process for that. So with complete impunity, they

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to leave me without legal representation and leave me

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:33.880
<v Speaker 1>on my own. But I so Gustavo was stuck in limbo.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Authorities wouldn't tell him or bear to his family how

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<v Speaker 1>he fit into their investigation. Two weeks after the murder,

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<v Speaker 1>the Honduran prosecutors issued a declaration. They said that no

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<v Speaker 1>details of the probe were to be shared with the

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Cassarus family or their lawyers. The decree said that the

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>family would only be given quote information that doesn't jeopardize

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation. The Cassarras family and Gustavo we're in the dark.

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<v Speaker 1>So they turned to an international network of activists. Environmentalists

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and human rights campaigners have been following the story from abroad.

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Those activists went on a media blitz, hoping to pressure

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<v Speaker 1>the Honduran investigation from the outside. This is a clip

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<v Speaker 1>from Democracy Now, an internationally distributed radio and TV program.

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<v Speaker 1>The host Amy Goodman is interviewing Beverly Bell, an American

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.920
<v Speaker 1>activist who had been a friend to both Berta and Gustavo.

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening right now in the wake and the

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<v Speaker 1>horror of the Ertaksa's assassination. What's happening to Gustavo Castro Sota.

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<v Speaker 1>It reads like the worst horror movie you could ever imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just been crazy where Gustavo was locked up in

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>horrible conditions. Horrible. What are you calling for now? We

0:44:02.960 --> 0:44:07.319
<v Speaker 1>are calling for his safe passage out of Honduras back

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico. We are also calling for an independent investigation

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.879
<v Speaker 1>of the assassination of Berta Casades because so far it's

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 1>been grossly manipulated by the Honduran government, which is seeking

0:44:19.640 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>to target and blame other members of Berta's group, who

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<v Speaker 1>themselves have been detained and are now being investigated. They

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:37.399
<v Speaker 1>had ripped a page out of Berta's own playbook. If

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the Honduran government wasn't listening to them, maybe the noise

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>of an international pressure campaign would attract some attention. They

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 1>argued that instead of focusing on Gustavo or on Berta's colleagues,

0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 1>they should look at Dessa. Berta herself had repeatedly said

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>that the company had been the source of threats against

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:04.760
<v Speaker 1>her life. Berta's daughter, er Tita Isabelle, continued to press

0:45:04.920 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>investigators to shift the focus of the probe. The public

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 1>ministry had no idea what to do with themselves, so

0:45:15.800 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>we were saying, look at the company. But thirteen or

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen days past before the company for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>was targeted in On March sixteenth, the prosecutor Ingredi Figured

0:45:50.360 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 1>called me and told me that I should go to

0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>testify in the case of the death of Beta in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Li Speranza and Prancer. Sergio says he

0:46:03.760 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>told the investigator the same version of events he described

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:11.080
<v Speaker 1>to me. He said he'd barely known Berta, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>when the investigator dropped a bomb on him. Calida Investigato.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor ingrid Figured told me, you're giving a statement

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<v Speaker 1>as someone who's being investigated. That's because there's testimony that

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<v Speaker 1>you threatened Berta cass with death. I was surprised. I

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<v Speaker 1>had seen Berta cas Is three times in my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Several of Berta's colleagues with Copaine told investigators that Sergio

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<v Speaker 1>had been harassing Berta since two thousand twelve. He threatened

0:46:56.600 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>her with repeated telephone calls, and that conversation that happened

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks before the murder, the one that

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Sergio says was friendly when he congratulated her on the

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>Goldman Prize. Copine witnesses say Sergio was angry with Berita

0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>that he threatened her again. After his interview with a

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:20.520
<v Speaker 1>prosecuting investigator, Sergio returned to his home into Goose Galpa.

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<v Speaker 1>Later that same day that Sergio was questioned, another copine activist,

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Nelson Garcia, was shot and killed about

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred miles south of La Speranza, and during police

0:47:34.280 --> 0:47:38.040
<v Speaker 1>considered it an isolated case. He'd been involved in other

0:47:38.120 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>protests which weren't connected to Dessa or a Wazarca. Even so,

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<v Speaker 1>that killing got the attention of two European development banks

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 1>that had backed the project. Both said they'd suspend financing

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<v Speaker 1>until the investigation was resolved. So now Sergio's job had

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>become much more difficult, but he hadn't given up on

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>the project. As far as he knew. The accusations against

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 1>him were going nowhere. He continued working for Dessa, waiting

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>for the smoke to clear, but there were signs the

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>investigation was evolving. In April, Gustavo Castro was finally allowed

0:48:20.480 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 1>to leave the country. He had been held by authorities

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.279
<v Speaker 1>for more than a month, but now he was no

0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:30.840
<v Speaker 1>longer considered a suspect. The investigator's interests seemed to be

0:48:30.880 --> 0:48:40.239
<v Speaker 1>shifting towards other people. Sergio was one of them. And

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<v Speaker 1>then on May two, my lawyer called me and said

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<v Speaker 1>there's a warrant to search your house that day. May

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<v Speaker 1>second would begin at dawn with a series of raids

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:05.040
<v Speaker 1>and so prize arrests. By late morning, secret developments inside

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the investigation began to emerge. A new cast of characters

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>would assume center stage. By evening, more blood would be

0:49:13.719 --> 0:49:18.280
<v Speaker 1>spilled the story of that day from dawn to dusk

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<v Speaker 1>on the next episode of Blood River. Blood River is

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