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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bau Bishop and Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 2: It's still live on a Tuesday edition of Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 3: I am merely bo he is the great ze warm up.

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Speaker 3: It's a warm up. It's warm, it's raining out. There's

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Speaker 3: talk melting the snow, getting that.

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Speaker 4: Great slush at brown like that gray slush that we

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Speaker 4: love so much. Yeah, absolutely all quiet though here it's

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Speaker 4: quiet after a day that was not quiet, not a

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Speaker 4: very newsy day, and today is.

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Speaker 2: A very quiet day.

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Speaker 3: It feels like I think, yes, it does appear that

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Speaker 3: it is there as it stands right now. There are

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Speaker 3: six NFL head coaching openings. We are one of them.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that there will be any more added

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Speaker 3: to the list. So it sounds like McDaniel is staying.

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Speaker 2: Seems like it, but not involved in the GM search

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Speaker 2: right in Miami.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, I think you know, people are talking about like

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Speaker 4: some of the big shocker ones right, Could Baltimore come open?

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Speaker 4: Could Green Bay come open? Which would seem to be

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Speaker 4: insane too.

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Speaker 3: Somebody real quick on the lafloor one I think, I

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Speaker 3: think I said, I think was Sam Monson, who was like,

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Speaker 3: I don't get people thinking Laflour would be on a hot.

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Speaker 2: Seat me either.

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Speaker 3: I don't understand that at all. Like what he's I

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Speaker 3: don't know. Feels like he's been pretty successful there. What

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Speaker 3: are you going to run him?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 3: He successfully navigated going from Rogers to Love pretty seamlessly.

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Speaker 3: They've won the whole time he's been there. Have they

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Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl? No, but they've knocked on the

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Speaker 3: door a lot, and they're in a super Bowl window.

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Speaker 4: I mean, here are his records as a head coach

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Speaker 4: thirteen and three, thirteen and three, thirteen and four, eight

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Speaker 4: and nine, nine and eight, eleven and six, nine, seven

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Speaker 4: and one, seventy six and.

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Speaker 2: Forty and that's we're going to run him?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: It seems like pretty good.

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Speaker 7: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: And that doesn't feel like their culture anyway, Like Mike

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Speaker 3: Haarthy had won that Super Bowl relatively early and had

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Speaker 3: that job for a long long time. It just they

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Speaker 3: seem more like steeler Z. Yeah, you know the way

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Speaker 3: they go about it. The Harball one is John Harbor

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Speaker 3: is going to be interesting in Baltimore from the perspective

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Speaker 3: of they're not quite in the situation that Cincinnati's in,

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Speaker 3: but it is close in that there is a window

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Speaker 3: that you're in with the quarterback, and if you're so,

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Speaker 3: hopefully you can have three versions of that window with

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Speaker 3: that franchise quarterback. But both Baltimore and Cincinnati are kind

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Speaker 3: of coming up to the edge of this incarnation of

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Speaker 3: those teams. And I think Burrow's probably already on the

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Speaker 3: second one. They had the first one that they got

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Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl with and then said we don't

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Speaker 3: need any defensive guys. Nothing to see here, So now

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Speaker 3: they're in this mode that they're in where they haven't

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Speaker 3: been able to replay. And then, honestly, Lamar is probably

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Speaker 3: in his second window too as a Super Bowl contending

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Speaker 3: quart and you probably have you're probably reaching towards the

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Speaker 3: back end of that second window. So then is there

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Speaker 3: a third window in Baltimore for Lamar? And is John

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Speaker 3: Harbaugh going to be the voiceover the entire Lamar regime?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what's going to be interesting.

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Speaker 4: To see how that ultimately You're right, how that ultimately

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Speaker 4: of the more fascinating things because that is he has

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Speaker 4: been a beak and of stability. Yes, you know, and

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Speaker 4: Lamar has multiple time MVP. Probably should have been MVP

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Speaker 4: last year. Yes, it is actually his best season. This

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Speaker 4: year was not so great. There's all this talk and

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Speaker 4: weird stuff. You know, if they make that field goal,

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Speaker 4: everybody's talking about them completely differently.

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Speaker 2: Yes, for sure, and that's really just on the kicker.

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Speaker 2: Just block it out to the right. It happens.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Our division is kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 4: It has gone very quickly from being oh, this is

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Speaker 4: one of the best divisions in football too.

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Speaker 2: We don't really know what's going on.

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Speaker 4: We don't know what's going on with the Bengals, we

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Speaker 4: don't know what's going on with the Ravens, and we

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Speaker 4: certainly don't even know what the Seelers are going to look.

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Speaker 6: Like coming out of this season. That was my follow up,

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Speaker 6: Good afternoon, gentlemen, by Buddy. Any chance if the Pukers

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Speaker 6: got hopefully not make a run and Tomlin goes, it's

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Speaker 6: just time for me to go out now.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I could see that.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Like you know, do do we know for we

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Speaker 3: don't know what any of these guys why is Nope,

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Speaker 3: Mike's been there a long time. And do you think

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Speaker 3: that if this is if Rogers? To me, this feels

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Speaker 3: it for him. It's my hunch, you know. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, we were right last year when in January

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Speaker 3: and February we kept saying he's going to go to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Remember that we talked.

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Speaker 3: About that every month that we would get pushed back

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, what are they waiting for? And I'm

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Speaker 2: like it so long?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but Steelers aren't dumb enough to like not

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Speaker 3: address quarterback an entire offseason unless they knew they were

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Speaker 2: Like some of this is just common sense.

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Speaker 3: But if this is one and done for Rogers, and

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Speaker 3: again it feels like it is, like does Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 3: want to do another quarterback thing? On the end of

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Speaker 3: Cam Hayward and all of I mean, do you want

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Speaker 3: to know they really needed at some point? Like whether

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Speaker 3: it's whether it's this year, they get one more drop

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Speaker 3: out of this out of the squeeze next year, they

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Speaker 3: really need a retooling.

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Speaker 4: Unless you know, maybe Will Howard is maybe somebody they

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Speaker 4: end up thinking, as I have consequence. But you haven't

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Speaker 4: heard anything really to that direction. No come out of

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Speaker 4: there at this point. But yeah, I could totally see

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Speaker 2: He he could be.

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Speaker 4: He could go out not ever having had a losing season, Yes,

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Speaker 4: which is insane. Yes, in nineteen years, Is that right,

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Speaker 4: young Gabriel, Is that right?

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Speaker 2: Yes, nineteen years, Yeah, never had.

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Speaker 4: A losing never, never lost, truly, I mean for us,

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Speaker 4: it's just such tough, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And so I don't those two operations.

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Speaker 3: And then in Cincinnati, I was starting to beend baby

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Speaker 3: this morning, and he said something to me that I

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Speaker 3: it was. So Duke Tobin down there only talks.

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Speaker 2: Twice a year. Yep, that's what he said.

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Speaker 3: So he talks at the combine, and he talks at

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Speaker 3: turtle soup brunch. That's it, luncheon, that's it. That's the

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Speaker 3: two times he talks. Mike Brown talks once a year

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Speaker 3: only at Turtle Soup. Only go ahead, give me no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: That's I brought it up yesterday, like there was a

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Speaker 6: there was a report that Tobin was actually going to talk.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so there was so much outcry about all of

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Speaker 3: this that Duke Tobin is going to talk on Friday

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Speaker 3: down in Cincinnati. He has never done that. They've never

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Speaker 3: made him available ever at the end of a season.

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Speaker 3: And and so there's enough outcry from fans of like, hey,

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Speaker 3: what the heck someone needs to answer for how we've

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Speaker 3: wasted three straight years of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: And uh and so.

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Speaker 3: And then he also said that like Katie Blackburn, who's

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown's daughter, that she only talks at the owners meeting,

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Speaker 3: Like she doesn't even do Turtle Soup. Yeah, Like that's

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Speaker 3: just Mike GM and coach at Turtle Soup. So who

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Speaker 3: knows what they're going to do. But there is a

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Speaker 3: tremendous And I asked him specifically about Burrow. I said,

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Speaker 3: I've never heard Joe talk like this because me either

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Speaker 3: i'n't heard talk like this either, And the way he

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Speaker 3: read it was that Burrow is going to try in

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Speaker 3: his best to like separate football failure from personal life failure,

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Speaker 3: like he's been taking too much of at home. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, God, if you're a Bengals fan, how

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Speaker 3: does that not sound like Carson Palmer a decade agot like,

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Speaker 3: well more than that.

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Speaker 2: Twenty years not now not having fun?

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Speaker 3: Right, So you think about one hundred and twenty days,

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Speaker 3: as mister Haslam said yesterday for us, one hundred and

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Speaker 3: twenty days for the division totally who knows what this

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Speaker 4: In May, And you have to think, you know, back

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Speaker 4: circling back to the Ravens, that you have to think

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Speaker 4: on some level that Lamar is not going to be

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Speaker 4: able to be what he always was year after year.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a shock again.

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Speaker 4: We talked about how great he was the year before,

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Speaker 4: So it feels like a little bit of a shocking

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Speaker 4: but you know, Lamar now going into this year gonna

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Speaker 4: be He's turning twenty nine I think tomorrow, actually he is.

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Speaker 4: He turns twenty nine tomorrow so he'll be twenty nine

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Speaker 4: thirty is running this year relative to what he has

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Speaker 4: always done, fell off an absolute cliff. Not last few seasons.

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Speaker 4: I'll just go every season. First one, he only started

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Speaker 4: seven games, six ninety five and five twelve hundred and

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Speaker 4: touchdowns in twelve games. He had seven sixty seven and two,

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Speaker 4: three forty nine and two twenty six yards a game,

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Speaker 4: not even half of his career average, right, so you

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Speaker 4: wonder how long can he operate that? How long can

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Speaker 4: Derrick Henry continue to be He had.

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Speaker 2: Another fifteen hundred yards this year?

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Speaker 4: Dude, I thought I did he even get to sixteen

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Speaker 4: hundred because he had another one hundred.

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Speaker 3: And did he end up with sixteen? It was fourteen

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Speaker 3: eighty something heading into He finished second.

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Speaker 2: To Cook fifteen ninety five and sixteen. So sixteen hundred

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Speaker 2: yards and sixteen touchdowns. He did it again again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how far is he from Emmitt Smith? Still a

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Speaker 3: long way.

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Speaker 4: Time rushing He's currently the current leader, so he's got

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Speaker 4: thirteen thousand and eighteen, so I think he's probably a long.

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Speaker 2: Did Emmit get to twenty.

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Speaker 4: Emmitt Smith eighteen thousand and three, so five thousand, I

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Speaker 4: mean hits.

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Speaker 3: This is the most real threat to that. I never

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Speaker 3: thought we'd get another real threat to that record after

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Speaker 3: Adrian Peterson. Yeah, and the fact that he just hung

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Speaker 3: a sixteen hundred burger on the table at this age

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Speaker 3: and he's thirty two.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, they didn't run him into key

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Speaker 2: The Green Bay game.

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Speaker 4: They'll revisit that for a very long.

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Speaker 2: And he did that.

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Speaker 4: He went four fourteen, four thirty two, three point fifty

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Speaker 3: Would say, And then the rest of it is easy,

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Speaker 4: We got a super Bowl caliber defense, we got a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you just think about in comparison now I don't.

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Speaker 2: And he played well down the.

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Speaker 4: So we know Kevin really liked him coming out of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was somebody. Certainly the Browns coveted.

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Speaker 4: They obviously weren't able to make it happen to Tennessee

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Speaker 2: As simple as that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Vegas is picking number one overall, abdul conor Ryan Burns.

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Speaker 3: I mean they you know, they got you got Bowers,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean Studs they're right there. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now they did something with Cousins' contract today. Oh,

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Speaker 6: There was a lot of language and how they there's

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Speaker 2: It sets up a key decision here.

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Speaker 4: The Atlantana Falcons and Kirk Cousin agree to modify the

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Speaker 4: future could come before that date. It also reduces twenty

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Speaker 2: The men of deal includes just split.

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Speaker 4: Differently, the restructure does not impact any guaranteed money already

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Speaker 2: But he played pretty well. He won the last four games, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: We need eight yards. We're gonna get kick a field goal.

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Speaker 3: Worst case scenario, who's made a fifty yard or forty

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Speaker 3: eight yarder?

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Speaker 2: Like, we're fine.

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Speaker 3: First play, Montana Say picks up eight yards, cooking with gas.

446
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Speaker 3: You got one time out left. Kid from Montana State

447
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Speaker 3: takes the snap. My guy takes a sack.

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Speaker 2: And he's been a good quarterback, Ben a very good quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He's at twelve thirteen in the first half. He takes

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Speaker 3: a sack. So now you got to burn your time out.

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Speaker 3: Montana State now has a sack, got a sack, anything

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Speaker 3: but talk to Pluto man, Yeah, takes a sack. Have

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Speaker 3: to take the time out. Montana State now had nine

454
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Speaker 3: procedure penalties in this game, nine false starts in this game.

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Speaker 3: They're running a guy in motion with like twenty some

456
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Speaker 3: seconds to go. They snap the ball over the quarterback's head.

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Speaker 3: They snap it over the quarterback's head on third down,

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Speaker 3: it goes all The ball is bounding now into Illinois

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Speaker 3: State territory.

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Speaker 2: The ball ends up. I have this all down.

461
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Speaker 3: The ball ends up at the Montana State twenty yard

462
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Speaker 3: line the other way up off the snap went that

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Speaker 3: far backwards, got in the.

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Speaker 6: Jet streaming, took off down the field.

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Speaker 3: So now it's it's fourth and thirty eight. But you

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Speaker 3: got to get a punt off. Illinois stated to use

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Speaker 3: their last time out, so they're cooked. They get the

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Speaker 3: pun offf we go to overtime. After all this meantime,

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Speaker 3: people are crashing out. Quarterbacks are crashing out. NBC's go dad.

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Speaker 3: These quarterbacks are losing it because they're like the one

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Speaker 3: they'll aloys s. Guy's going, why are we kicking field goals?

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Speaker 3: Let's just go win it. It's fourth and one, Like,

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Speaker 3: why trust these kids?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we go to overtime.

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Speaker 3: Illinois State second play of overtime, touchdown, trot out little

476
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Speaker 3: Hobby out to go make the field goals. Oh no,

477
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Speaker 3: little Timmy. Whatever's poor kid, it's not you know, he

478
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Speaker 3: just shouldn't ever have been in that spot. He goes

479
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: kicked the extra point, blocked, blocked again, blocked again. Was

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Speaker 3: that his fault?

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Speaker 8: Though?

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Speaker 2: Who knows? The hole was bad?

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Speaker 3: I mean it was the guy just came in from

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Speaker 3: the side. The one was from the two blocks, ye,

485
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Speaker 3: from one from thirty seven yards in the other extra point.

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Speaker 3: Now fourth in the season for Montana State. Down okay,

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Speaker 3: down six, fourth in the season. Illinois State draws up

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Speaker 3: and all out blitz on fourth in the season, bringing

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Speaker 3: the house the best player. Montana State has a kid

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Speaker 3: named Taco Dowler whose name was McClain, changed his name

491
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Speaker 3: to Taco because he was in a truck Taco Bell

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Speaker 3: drive through and he's a kid and he's like, that's

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Speaker 3: my name, and his folks are like, okay, fine, great,

494
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Speaker 3: that's how it happened.

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Speaker 2: I love Tacos.

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Speaker 3: If he was in Montana, it should have been Taco

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Speaker 3: Treat or Taco John's either one or far more Montana

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Speaker 3: than Taco Bell. Fourth in the season, they sent in

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Speaker 3: all out blitz and they end up having a safety

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Speaker 3: on Dowllar. The kid Lampson, who had been dreadful in

501
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Speaker 3: the second half, just throws it to the corner as

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Speaker 3: far as he can. The kid runs under it for

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Speaker 3: the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Unbelievable. But then it's one doublea football and you got

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Speaker 2: to make the extra to make it. So they do,

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Speaker 2: and they do. Do you have the call?

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Speaker 5: We do?

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Speaker 6: Compliments of ESPN, Yes.

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Speaker 9: Fourth down and over time they bring pressure lamps and throws,

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Speaker 9: heads up, touchdand Taco dollar.

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Speaker 2: Miles Sanstead.

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Speaker 1: Snap hold kick fuck did National Championship hit over time.

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Speaker 3: It was the craziest last four minutes of a sporting

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Speaker 3: event I've ever seen. If it would have been Division One,

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Speaker 3: the the just outrage of the incompetence of the coaching incredible,

516
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Speaker 3: not knowing when to take time outs, not knowing what

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Speaker 3: to do on fourth and short. It was like learning

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Speaker 3: how to play coach.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 2: It was the craziest damn thing. The situations they kept

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Speaker 2: putting the kids in. It was crazy. But they did

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Speaker 2: it first time. It's eighty four for them.

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Speaker 3: First time, would have been the first time ever for

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Speaker 3: Illinois State, and honestly, the way Illinois State plate, it's

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Speaker 3: criminal that they didn't win because of what happened.

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Speaker 2: We'll take it, but we'll take it. We'll take it

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 3: We'll do a little risk reward with our buddy Dave's

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Speaker 3: ascidil coming up next. We're often Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 3: He is the managing director at the Oswald Companies. He

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Speaker 3: is a former Browns and NFL punter. He's Dave's Asidil

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Speaker 3: and he joins us there now. And I'm guessing not

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Speaker 3: from some sort of tropical location this week. Are you

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Speaker 3: finally back to reality, buddy?

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Speaker 9: Oh man, I'm in beautiful sunny Cleveland, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Right, that's all right. Look at that sun.

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Speaker 4: It's like a tropical rain, right SPF fifty drain SPF

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Speaker 4: fifty at least today.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, shoot at my age. You gotta put

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Speaker 5: seventy on.

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Speaker 3: We had obviously the season has has now come and

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Speaker 3: gone and we'll get into some of the specifics of that.

555
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Speaker 3: But as someone who knows what it takes to have

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Speaker 3: success in this league as an organization, and with the

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Speaker 3: news of the dismissal of Kevin Stefanski, if you were

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Speaker 3: the owners of the Cleveland Browns, what would you be

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Speaker 3: looking for in a head coach? What what characteristics would

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Speaker 3: be important to you?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, it's a good question. You know, the game,

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Speaker 9: the game has changed a little bit. You're seeing so

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Speaker 9: many creative offensive mines right now. You know, whether it's

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Speaker 9: you know, what we've seen in Kansas City over the

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Speaker 9: years and what we're seeing, you know with guys of

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Speaker 9: the guy up in Buffalo, I can't remember his name,

567
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Speaker 9: but you know in Philly you're seeing, you know, some

568
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Speaker 9: creativity around the red zone.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I think as.

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Speaker 9: We watched the Cleveland Browns, we really haven't haven't seen

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Speaker 9: much of that, right And that might be due to

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Speaker 9: inconsistent play at the quarterback position or just playing young players.

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Speaker 9: But you know, if when I was in the locker room,

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Speaker 9: you know, especially talking with guys in the old days,

575
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 9: you know, you always wanted I went through a bunch

576
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Speaker 9: of coaching changes, you really wanted somebody that came in

577
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Speaker 9: right away and when they spoke, guys listened, and you

578
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Speaker 9: wanted you wanted them to earn the respect of the

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Speaker 9: locker room. And I can tell you you know when

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Speaker 9: I got into when I got the Arizona and Ken

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Speaker 9: Wizen hunt, you know, Uh unfortunately left the organization and

582
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Speaker 9: Bruce arians came in. When he came in that first

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00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 9: team meeting, right away, you could see that there was

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Speaker 9: that that that squint in guy's eyes of going, Wow,

585
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 9: this is a guy right away that we're going to

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Speaker 9: listen to, we're going to play for. And you know,

587
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 9: that is the type of personality. I think this organization

588
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 9: needs somebody that has a little bit of emotion, somebody

589
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Speaker 9: that builds confidence with the team. You got a lot

590
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Speaker 9: of young players at one aspect of the team. He

591
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Speaker 9: got a lot of veteran players. But if you can

592
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Speaker 9: have a coach come in here and sets the vision

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Speaker 9: right off the bat and they buy into it. You know,

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Speaker 9: even though these guys range from you know, twenty year

595
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 9: old kids too, you know, forty year old veterans, that

596
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 9: respect will start gleaming right away in that in that

597
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 9: meeting room. And I think that's the type of coach

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00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 9: that if they can get in here, this organization and

599
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 9: this team will start coming together even more they are now.

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Speaker 4: And we know that the Browns would like to keep

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Speaker 4: Jim Schwartz and this defensive staff here.

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Speaker 2: So does that matter to you?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 4: Are we looking for an offensive coach to pair with

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Speaker 4: that or are you open to anything if they can

606
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Speaker 4: work together.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, if they can work together. The biggest thing about

608
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 9: the head coach is you have to find a leader

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Speaker 9: of men, and you've got to find coach that bring

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Speaker 9: a team together, build a culture, and that those guys

611
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Speaker 9: would run through a brick wall for you. Other than that,

612
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Speaker 9: there are coordinators out there. There are people that will

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Speaker 9: come play and obviously fill the offensive role. You get

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Speaker 9: a good quarterbacks coach to fill your good wide receivers coach,

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Speaker 9: and that'll take care of itself. But first and foremost

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Speaker 9: you got to get You got to get a leader

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Speaker 9: in here that young men and will follow and that

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Speaker 9: they will respect, and that the locker room will all

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Speaker 9: come together. Now, I think it's obvious just human nature

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Speaker 9: that you know, people get excited about bringing somebody from

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Speaker 9: the outside in.

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Speaker 10: Right.

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Speaker 9: If somebody new it's the unknown. But Jim Schwartz has

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Speaker 9: a proven commodity. He has head coach experienced. You see

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Speaker 9: what the defense has been. You see in those defensive

626
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Speaker 9: meeting rooms which the offense is not in, right, I

627
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 9: mean that coach Schwartz is always in defensive meeting rooms

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Speaker 9: working with the team. So the offensive players see him,

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Speaker 9: they know, but they don't really know him from a

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Speaker 9: meeting perspective and him addressing the entire team. So I

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Speaker 9: think it's very smart to vet him, to interview him

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Speaker 9: to see what his vision is. But I think they'll

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Speaker 9: do their due diligence.

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Speaker 5: I you know, I.

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Speaker 9: Haven't really done an extensive research on the coaches out there.

636
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Speaker 9: You see some of the names that are flying around,

637
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 9: but you know, those are the characteristics that you haven't

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Speaker 9: I think coach Schwartz has a lot of those.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's there's six jobs that are open around the league,

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Speaker 3: and you you hit on some of the things. I mean,

641
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Speaker 3: this is the thing we were talking about selling it

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Speaker 3: and obviously the fan base and the history and the

643
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: immortality that would come with winning here, but beyond that,

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Speaker 3: it's a super Bowl level defense and the offense is

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Speaker 3: a long ways from that. As we know, but you

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Speaker 3: have a lot of ways to address that via draft

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Speaker 3: picks and cap space this offseason, and his ownership put

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Speaker 3: it yesterday critical one hundred and twenty days. Certainly, if

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Speaker 3: it's taken advantage of, you can flip this thing pretty quickly.

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Speaker 3: And I think if you're looking for proof of that,

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Speaker 3: look at look no further than Jacksonville and New England, right, Dave,

652
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Speaker 3: two teams that lost thirteen games a year ago and

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Speaker 3: now find themselves on the other side of that. So

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Speaker 3: you can flip it pretty quickly in the NFL if

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Speaker 3: you're savvy through free agency and from your vantage point

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Speaker 3: as you look at this job, how attractive is it?

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Speaker 9: Well, I look at it as a very similation almost more.

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Speaker 9: Those are great examples. But I also think you got

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Speaker 9: to throw in the Denver Broncos, right, I mean, they

660
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Speaker 9: were in a cap, you know, a pre tough cap

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Speaker 9: space with Russell Wilson. You saw what they've done and

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Speaker 9: how they've turned it around. They built a great, great defense,

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Speaker 9: they found a mobile guy that you know, has has

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Speaker 9: learned the new system, and and bo Nicks and that

665
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Speaker 9: team turned around very quickly. So yeah, it's definitely possible.

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Speaker 9: It's no secret that Andrew Berry came out and said that,

667
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Speaker 9: you know, we've got to fix this offense. And I

668
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Speaker 9: believe that they will create tap space to be able

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Speaker 9: to attract some free agency, whether it's on the line,

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Speaker 9: in the receiver room, what have you. But the key

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Speaker 9: in anytime you're building a long, sustainable team of consistent teams,

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Speaker 9: you got to hit in the draft. We've really only had,

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Speaker 9: you know, last year you had a first rounder and

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Speaker 9: you had some more draft picks to see what you

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Speaker 9: could do, and you know Andrew Berry had had a

676
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Speaker 9: great draft. Those young players are only going to continue

677
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Speaker 9: to develop with Harold Fan and Schweassinger if you can

678
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Speaker 9: repeat a draft like that and you start adding some

679
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Speaker 9: key free agents that maybe are considered boring.

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Speaker 5: From the outside view. And I mean what I mean

681
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Speaker 5: is like you know.

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Speaker 9: A good guard, you know a center, and people that

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Speaker 9: aren't flashy. But I think clevelanders now understand how important

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Speaker 9: it is, especially going back to when we drafted Joe Thomas,

685
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Speaker 9: that the offensive lineman in the top five to seven

686
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Speaker 9: picks isn't a sexy pick, but you can see that

687
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Speaker 9: that player will be here for ten, twelve years and

688
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Speaker 9: really be so impactful to.

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Speaker 5: The organization, so you can do it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think the team's probably closer than probably

691
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Speaker 9: what the fans think because the defense is in such

692
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Speaker 9: a good spot. Mason Graham's only going to get stronger,

693
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Speaker 9: Mike Hall is only going to develop even more. You

694
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 9: don't know what's going on with Martin Everson Emerson coming back.

695
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Speaker 5: You know, there's some.

696
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Speaker 9: Great pieces on that defense, but the focus has to

697
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Speaker 9: be in the offense.

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Speaker 5: And the good thing is Andrew Berry basically said that

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Speaker 5: flat out and that's what he's going to address.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jimmy said it when he talked and I couldn't

701
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 4: agree more. You got to get weapons here, We got

702
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Speaker 4: to try to score the football and hopefully, you know,

703
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Speaker 4: this offseason will go a long way to doing that.

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Speaker 4: One thing that Jimmy talked about as well was Andres

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Speaker 4: And you know, we thought a couple of years ago

706
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Speaker 4: Dustin Hopkins was going to be that guy for us.

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Speaker 4: But how about Andre Schmid and just kind of the

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Speaker 4: story that he hits the walkoff game winner against Cincinnati

709
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Speaker 4: in the final week of the season, when you know

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Speaker 4: his worst game of the season was Week one that

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Speaker 4: cost the Browns the game against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just happy they stuck with him.

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Speaker 9: It's natural to get upset, you know, early in the

714
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 9: season you got a rookie kicker. But you know, a

715
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Speaker 9: lot of there's been some players, you know, Greg Joseph

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Speaker 9: Zaning Gonzalez that have left here and they're still you know,

717
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Speaker 9: so I know Zing Gonzalz is still.

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Speaker 2: Playing in the Pro Bowl position.

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Speaker 5: Brobo.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, so you know, I was very happy to see

721
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Speaker 9: they stuck with him.

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Speaker 5: The guy is just he's so natural. He's a very

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Speaker 5: confident kid.

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Speaker 9: And and like they said, I think they have someone

725
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Speaker 9: that that's going to be here for a very long time.

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Speaker 9: I think Corey Borkaz is another one that you know,

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Speaker 9: may had you know, maybe a couple of games where

728
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Speaker 9: you know, he didn't.

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Speaker 5: Have his best games.

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Speaker 9: If he saw at the end of the season in

731
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Speaker 9: that cold weather, he was still booming ball in place

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Speaker 9: in it. So from a special standpoint, you're in a

733
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Speaker 9: pretty good spot. They got a young snapper that I

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Speaker 9: like because he's from Bay Villa's On.

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Speaker 7: Harr is a great kid.

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Speaker 9: They're young, and that scene of that that unit is

737
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Speaker 9: kind of solidified, you know, the one the one big

738
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Speaker 9: question mark and it's no secret is they got to

739
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Speaker 9: figure out the quarterback position.

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Speaker 5: You know, there there's a couple of routes that can go.

741
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Speaker 9: They can go into free agency and find someone like

742
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Speaker 9: a you know how, you know how Seattle found.

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnold Daniel Jones of mac Jones.

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Speaker 9: Over there in the forty nine ers, who showed some

745
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Speaker 9: promise under Shanahan. Maybe you get someone like in here

746
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Speaker 9: that can bridge the gap. But you know there's about

747
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 9: three different paths that can go in the in that position.

748
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Speaker 9: And once you get that position solidified, now you're sustaining

749
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Speaker 9: long term growth. So we can build the offense and

750
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Speaker 9: receivers and all that. But obviously, guys, they have got

751
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Speaker 9: to figure out what the future is in the quarterback position.

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Speaker 6: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: Always appreciate you every single Tuesday, buddy, We know you

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Speaker 3: got to run.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time as always.

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Speaker 5: Hey guys, thanks and happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: The hecka they gonna.

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Speaker 2: Do Washington pretty fascinating. They just let both of their

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Speaker 2: coordinators go.

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Speaker 3: As you just mentioned changes in Washington, offensive coordinator Cliff

784
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: Kingsbury and the commanders agree to part ways. Kingsbury can

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Speaker 3: pursue other opportunities and defensive catered note Joe Whitt Junior

786
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Speaker 3: is also out in Washington.

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Speaker 6: There's three DC's that are out in the NFC East

788
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Speaker 6: Philly is the only one with a defensive coordinator.

789
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Speaker 2: Yep, oh yeah, because giants everybody.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the Giants don't have a coach. Washington's got a coach,

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Speaker 6: but no coordinators. That is a Dallas has Shottenheimer.

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Speaker 2: I think the Kingsbury thing is really risky for dan Quinn.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because it was so good and then this year,

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Speaker 4: you know, Jaden was banged up, so you never really

795
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 4: kind of knew what it was this year.

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Speaker 6: And indication Jayden's mother's tweets yesterday. I did not last

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Speaker 6: night before this all went down, No, I did not.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to see Jayden and KK run it back.

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Speaker 2: Oh year three.

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Speaker 3: Well, all the reporting I was seeing this morning was

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Speaker 3: that that that he loved him, that he loved Kingsbury

802
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: and the offensive players loved playing for Kingsbury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's an interesting decision. That's a tough decision

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00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: to make, and it's just so that he can pursue

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Speaker 2: other opportunities. That's what he's not going to go head coach.

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Speaker 6: There's some more coming out now. Supposedly he and Quinn

807
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 6: butting heads because Quinn wanted to be more running and

808
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 6: he wants a traditional dropback style for Jaden and clips

809
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 6: like like, these are the pieces and parts we have,

810
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 6: let's make it all work.

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Speaker 2: Watch last year.

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Speaker 3: If that's real, and Dan Quinn wants to take Jaden

813
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Speaker 3: and make him a traditional drop back quarterback, then he

814
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: can go back to two thousand and three and coach

815
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Speaker 3: the Atlanta Falcons and Michael Vick and go do that

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Speaker 3: with him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because that we've come a long way. Yeah, we

818
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: don't have to do those things anymore. That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, Like, and Quinn wanted to be

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Speaker 6: more of a running team as opposed to throwing the

821
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Speaker 6: football forty times a game and like, hey buddy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta you have to Life comes at you fast.

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Speaker 2: I mean they were in the NFC Championship game last year.

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Speaker 6: You just got rid of both coordinators. Your next if

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Speaker 6: you don't win next year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I think. Like I wouldn't have I

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Speaker 3: probably would have just choked. If I'm Washington, I would

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Speaker 3: have probably have just chalked this up too. We had

829
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Speaker 3: a lot of bad quarterback got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Our quarterback got hurt. We were never helped, got hurt

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Speaker 2: early for.

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Speaker 6: Former what happens if Peyton Manning goes down, Scene's over.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Season's over, man Like, that's it.

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Speaker 6: So back to the drawing board.

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Speaker 3: I probably would have had a little more restraint there

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Speaker 3: if I were Dan Quinn on that one, because you

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Speaker 3: had a lot of the right things going in the

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Speaker 3: right direction and then to blow it up like that.

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Speaker 4: Yep, you've got You've got basically six games out of

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Speaker 4: Jayden Daniels this year, six full games.

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Speaker 2: Out of Jayden Daniels. You didn't. It's just like this.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals got eight games, eight starts out.

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Speaker 2: Of Yeah, what were they? They were five and three

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Speaker 2: with them because they're five and two going into the

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Speaker 2: last one.

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Speaker 3: So five five and three with Burrow, yep, Yeah, which

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00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: would have been plenty, just fine, would have won the

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00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 3: division just fine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mariotas started more games at quarterback for them than

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Speaker 4: than anybody else. He started eight, seven for Daniels, two

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Speaker 4: for Josh Johnson. McLaurin only played in ten games and

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Speaker 4: had five hundred.

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Speaker 2: And eighty two yards.

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Speaker 4: They're they're banged up, man. We got thirteen games out

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Speaker 4: of Ertz. Yeah, it was tough. I mean, it goes

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Speaker 4: the quarterback. I mean, Mariota is fine, right, but not

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Speaker 4: long term. And then Josh Johnson you know what you're

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Speaker 4: getting there and gets you win at the end of

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Speaker 4: the year, which is incredible.

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Speaker 2: By the way. The scores were just so absurd in

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Speaker 2: the last week.

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Speaker 4: By the way, do you know how much some of

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Speaker 4: those lines moved from the time that we did the scores?

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Speaker 2: No, I did not. I didn't even look, which was

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Speaker 2: on a Friday, right, Yeah, we did it on File

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Speaker 2: Friday at four forty.

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Speaker 4: The Green Bay line moved like a touchdown because then

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Speaker 4: it became clear they were doing nothing, that they were

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Speaker 4: not attempting.

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Speaker 2: It ended up being over thirteen, did it really? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't even know.

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Speaker 4: And maybe it was nine, so maybe I'm exaggering a

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Speaker 4: little bit. Maybe we had nine and it ended up

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Speaker 4: being thirteen or thirteen and a half depending on where.

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Speaker 2: I can't even I don't even know what I did.

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Speaker 2: What we did? Did you look?

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Speaker 4: We had Green Bay if you take the thirteen chi

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Speaker 4: ching I think it was it. I think it was

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Speaker 4: nine at the time we did it.

880
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: Did we have green I know we had a lot

881
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: of the same. We had a lot of the same.

882
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: It was.

883
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: It was not a wonderful week. Uh that was It

884
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 2: was nine and a half when we did it. Yeah,

885
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: and it gone up to thirteen and a half. Well,

886
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 2: I picked that. We picked the Packers, right, so we're

887
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: good with that.

888
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. Yeah, we picked the Packers

889
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: to cover, picked the Niners to cover idiots.

890
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 2: We knew that we got Falcons. They didn't cover. Oh

891
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: they what they did not? They won?

892
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 4: No, No Gallon disaster, Tennessee disaster, Houston disaster.

893
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: We got Buffalo, we got Chicago.

894
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 6: I got were prefaced, we said this, We got Vegas, we.

895
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: Got the Rams, and we got the Browns. That was it.

896
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 2: That's that's the that's the list.

897
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on, come on, well they you know what

898
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: I said to do with fantasy I think they the

899
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: league's got a really to me Week seventeen and eighteen

900
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: or total crapshoot eighteen. You can have a game, no way,

901
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 3: but I think even seventeen is getting close. Yeah, Like

902
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: some of the stuff that you saw in seven week

903
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 3: seventeen this sweet this year, like there were not serious teams.

904
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: There were a lot of not serious teams a week seventeen.

905
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 3: Like when you're doing fantasy, like it might be something

906
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: to backload it to the sixteenth and I know you're

907
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: gonna have to deal with buys then in the playoffs.

908
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: I get it, but I don't know. I think I'd

909
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: rather deal with bys.

910
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 4: They just say the league needs to just get all

911
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 4: the buys done. They just have a lot bigger bye

912
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 4: weeks and have them just be over the course of

913
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 4: four weeks, all in the middle of season, so nobody

914
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: gets a real weird bye week advantage of disadvantage.

915
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: Because it's in our in the one league I've been

916
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: in for a long time, Like the consolation game ended

917
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: up like fifty three to forty six, and the championship

918
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: ended up being a really lopsided affair because one of

919
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: the guys, the guy who was the regular season champion,

920
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 3: like all of his team was out, Yeah, and he

921
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: was scrambling trying to pick guys up to just start anybody,

922
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: but you can't, you know, like everybody else still has

923
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 3: the guys on their rosters. The waiver wires cooked, there's

924
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 3: nothing there. Yeah, there's no there's no.

925
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: Home runs in the waiver wire for a championship.

926
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 11: No.

927
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: No, So he lost by like sixty. It's crazy. It's like, well,

928
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: it is not right, like that's not right to do that.

929
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: But that's that's that's kind of where where it all

930
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: is right now.

931
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: So that I think that I think the league, the

932
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 3: league is going to go to the Super Bowl being

933
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: the Sunday before President's Day. You're going to get to

934
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: eighteen regular season games and two buys. You've always had

935
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 3: that plan, which I think is really good to just

936
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: have those bigger buys.

937
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can fill everyone and have it all. What

938
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 2: is it again, You've got it so that it's all

939
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: the buys are done by.

940
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: So basically you play, Not everybody's gonna get to do it,

941
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 4: but you basically are going to play, you know, six games,

942
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: six games, six games, three six game trunches. Now it's

943
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 4: going to be somebody's going to be five and seven.

944
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 4: But that's kind of where you're going to try to

945
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 4: go with where it's all.

946
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: So bye after every six or it's for some it

947
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 3: would be every five or seven, but it would be

948
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 3: within realm that you wouldn't go twelve weeks without a buye. No,

949
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: And I don't know if that would help with the

950
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 3: injury stuff or not.

951
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 6: I don't know, and I don't know if it's possible.

952
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 6: But like a FC North, NFC North, you're off this

953
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 6: week exactly, a FC East NFC East you're out, So

954
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 6: like the Ravens don't have it the week after we do,

955
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 6: or the Steelers have it two weeks after, so that

956
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 6: the play division was off this week and this week.

957
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: Yes, very good.

958
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, GiB A g Man and Doctor J. Want to know,

959
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 3: take the Browns job out of thing. What's the best

960
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: head coaching offering in the National Football League in Atlanta?

961
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, studs. It's a winnable division, nice city, nice facility.

962
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 4: I think you gotta you're good to go. It's right there.

963
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 4: It's it's probably the answer.

964
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 6: There's some attractive things about Tennessee, brand new state.

965
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: If you I was just gonna make I think I

966
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 2: could make a case for a couple of these.

967
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: I the only one I would be Arizona just because

968
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: ownership is tough and you got to the quarterback thing

969
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 3: is real mess and you know outside of McBride and

970
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 3: you know what's left there, so that that to me

971
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 3: feels that's fine tough. Yeah, that's five for sure. I'm

972
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 3: with you, I think because I think everybody wants to

973
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 3: win right away, and I think you can win in

974
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: Atlanta right away, like you have enough plans.

975
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 2: I like your point about the division. Yeah, nine won

976
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 2: that division this year. I would probably have Tennessee second

977
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: because I like cam Ward.

978
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I have Tennessee or the Giants second, because

979
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 4: I thought, you know Giants New York Yeah right, lights, big.

980
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: City people love living in Nashville.

981
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that with the new stadium and if

982
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: ownership gets there's they could be pretty glamorous pretty quick.

983
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: Sure living with the Nashville part of it, they probably

984
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: should have been the Nashville something instead of the Tennessee Titans.

985
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: They probably should have just went Nashville because there's a

986
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 3: pretty big difference between Knoxville and Nashville and Memphis. So

987
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 3: maybe just be in Nashville, have a way to do that. Butever, yeah,

988
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 3: so I would probably. I like CAM. Giants are better organization.

989
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Giants have won more New York, all of it. I

990
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: like Cam a little bit more than Dart. Oh yeah, same,

991
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 3: So so I would, I would, But then I would

992
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: I know that upsets Pedro.

993
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: I would put the Giants in under that, and the Giants.

994
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: I think giants.

995
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: I think the top three are Atlanta Giants, sends the

996
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: Vegas four and then Arizona.

997
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: Vegas is such a wild card. Yeah, you at least

998
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: get the number one pick.

999
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 4: I hopefully haven't alienated Max Crosby at the point where

1000
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 4: he's completely done with you.

1001
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: What was he upset with, Carol? Is that what he

1002
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: was upse was upset with a lot. They weren't let

1003
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: him play, That is what he was upset with. Which

1004
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 2: what was the point of that?

1005
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 6: They said he was hurt.

1006
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: He said thank you very much that way as the

1007
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: CIA would say. But they won. They did win at

1008
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 2: the end because it didn't matter. Yeah, yeah, it didn't matter.

1009
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 4: So had we lost the last two with the way

1010
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 4: everything ultimately felt, we would have had the number one pick.

1011
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: Is that true?

1012
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 3: If we won the last two games, we would be

1013
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: lost number one because of the way everything else it's crazy.

1014
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: And again that's a topic for another day. But I

1015
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 3: still think you should do lottery in the NFL. Yeah,

1016
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 3: I think it'd be a good one day television show too.

1017
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: They get ready pretty jacked up.

1018
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: Imagine next year, which, by the way, I had for

1019
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: next year's draft. I had a PFF guy on this

1020
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: morning and we were looking ahead to twenty twenty seven

1021
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: and he said, number one quarterback for next year is

1022
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: Julian saying it's not close.

1023
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 2: That was his Dalton.

1024
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 3: Wasserman Like he's like, it's saying more than Arch, more

1025
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 3: than Arch, more than sellers there, more than all those

1026
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: guys that it was saying quarterbacks come out of nowhere,

1027
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,479
Speaker 3: like I wouldn't have had last year, like Mendoza going one. Sure,

1028
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: you know, like that kind of came out of nowhere.

1029
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 3: So who knows, there's usually you know, somebody comes out

1030
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 3: of nowhere. But that's the way it seems right now.

1031
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: And he had him as the number one returning quale,

1032
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 3: so which I think probably makes sense. He's about he's

1033
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: about NFL made in terms of his accuracy and all

1034
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: of that. So but Cheremie is going to be tantalizing

1035
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: for somebody. No sitting there because that's your thing. As

1036
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 3: it gets all right, second out with the program coming

1037
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 3: up next week, kick it off with the Microsoft Minute.

1038
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,640
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1039
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,680
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1040
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,960
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1041
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,720
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1042
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:25,280
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1043
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,960
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1044
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,760
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1045
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: All right, Time for that Microsoft vendor.

1046
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 3: It's presented by Microsoft Surface Copilot plus PC. And with

1047
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 3: the final thoughts from the game against the Bengals, we

1048
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: turn it over.

1049
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: To Duck to Z.

1050
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one was all about obviously Miles Garrett getting

1051
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 4: the sack record there, so that was great to see.

1052
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,919
Speaker 2: We got the call up.

1053
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 4: There with the video and maybe I did do a

1054
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: double gotam Gibbe.

1055
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: I think just one. Do you think it's a double

1056
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 2: on him?

1057
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 4: We design I think there was a little extra video

1058
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 4: might have been a second double got him. It was

1059
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 4: like I was, I was like a backup singer because

1060
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 4: he was saying got him too, So I was like,

1061
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: you know, got him fleshing it.

1062
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah I got it in the moment, Yeah I gotcha.

1063
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: So that was great.

1064
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: This is, you know, obviously a season in which the

1065
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 4: outcomes weren't there, but there were some really good stories

1066
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 4: in it. I thought this game highlighted some of the

1067
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 4: really good stories for the Cleveland Browns. Devin Bush. Devin

1068
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 4: Bush this season career high one hundred and twenty five tackles.

1069
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 4: Devin Bush a career high three picks, two of which

1070
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 4: were pick sixes.

1071
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 2: Did you know this?

1072
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: Devin Bush led the NFL and interception return yards this

1073
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 4: season one hundred and sixty four. Yeah, career high eight

1074
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: passes defense. His previous high was four. Career high two

1075
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 4: forts fumbles previous high was one. Also had a fumber recovery.

1076
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 4: Tied his career high with two sacks. I mentioned the

1077
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 4: crew high in tackles, also seven tackles for los Anti's

1078
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 4: crew high with four quarterback hits. So he was a

1079
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 4: great story. Andre Schmidt getting the game winner, great story,

1080
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 4: great story. Start off the season. It was it was

1081
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 4: looking dire is what it was. It was looking very dire.

1082
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: There was a lot of talk that maybe we should

1083
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: move on from Andre Schmidt. Doesn't miss an extra point

1084
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 4: the rest of the season. He's good there. His nails

1085
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: on field goals basically the rest of the season. S

1086
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 4: field goal percentage he misses one in Detroit from fifty

1087
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 4: seven and one in New England from I think forty seven.

1088
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,840
Speaker 4: Other than that, his kicking percentage Jets was on one hundred,

1089
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 4: one hundred, one hundred last five games one hundred, one

1090
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 4: hundred hundred, didn't miss, did not miss a kick finished

1091
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: in his last five games. He made eight for eight

1092
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: on field goals, two of which were fifty plus, and

1093
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 4: then also went seven for seven on extra points. So

1094
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 4: just that's that's an incredible story. So you found some

1095
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 4: things here. Now Devin Bush is an interest with free agent,

1096
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: He's probably gonna com d pretty good money. Are you

1097
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 4: able to keep him? Does he want to stay here?

1098
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: Does he like the system that kind of got his

1099
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: career back on track? Devin Bush. The other part of

1100
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: it is, I don't think people realize this as they

1101
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 4: remember he was the top ten pick in the twenty

1102
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: nineteen draft. He's only twenty seven. Yeah, he's only twenty seven,

1103
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 4: and he played great. He was great.

1104
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 2: Him and Swessenger were pretty special.

1105
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: Yes, that was an unbelievable duo, and I think that's

1106
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: something that you know, Jason Tarver certainly would want to

1107
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 4: be able to revisit there. And then you know, you

1108
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 4: get not a great game from schudor Sanders, but you

1109
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 4: get the game winning drive. And on that game winning drive,

1110
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: he did a good job executing getting him down the

1111
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 4: field and setting up that field goal by Andre Schmidt.

1112
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 4: And when we started it off, you know, we faced

1113
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 4: a third and ten right away, gets Isaiah Bond on

1114
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 4: the left side for thirteen. Then on a third and

1115
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 4: one he gets it to Judy for eleven yards. Samson

1116
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: runs it. He had one shot to get it to Bond,

1117
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 4: which would have been a fun kind of walk off

1118
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 4: touchdown shades of Baker to DPJ. And then you get

1119
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 4: the field goal from Andre Schmidt. So a lot of

1120
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: good there obviously, but this was a tough one. Kind

1121
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 4: of the Marquee guys on offense going into next year,

1122
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,959
Speaker 4: Quinnjohn Jenkins didn't play, Harold Fannieli and receiver didn't play.

1123
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 4: Obviously we know that Carson Swessinger didn't play, and then

1124
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 4: I was really unfortunate that both you know that Denzel

1125
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: gets knocked out for he can get a second pick,

1126
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 4: Tyson Campbell gets knocked out, comes back, tries to play,

1127
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 4: gut it out, ends up having to leave. But you

1128
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 4: got to give D'Angelo Ross and Sam Webb a little

1129
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 4: bit of credit that they were able to step in

1130
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 4: there and you keep the Bengals at bay, which is.

1131
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: Was crazy, Ludacros. It's crazy.

1132
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 4: I mean those guys were preseason not here, so they

1133
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 4: would been preseason like corners seven and eight.

1134
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 6: I was gonna say, were they here week ten?

1135
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and going up against NFL ranked receivers white one

1136
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 3: and two like best too, and Chase is in the

1137
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 3: top three and Higgins is in the top twenty.

1138
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: Yes, in the league.

1139
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: They both played seven games, so they got here actually

1140
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: in for the eleventh game of the season.

1141
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it was really It was a the

1142
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 3: latest example of how far and we saw it with Buffalo,

1143
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 3: we sat with Pittsburgh, and then we saw it with Cincinnati,

1144
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 3: like how far teams would go to game plan away

1145
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 3: from Miles oh Man. Yeah, your fault in some instance,

1146
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 3: like it's interesting, like if you think about it, like

1147
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: how many times did Miles get Drake May four times?

1148
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 2: That was that? Did he get Drake four times? Or

1149
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: was that five? I thought that was the fiver, but

1150
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: I could be wrong. But and yeah, and New England

1151
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: beat the Brakes off us.

1152
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 5: Yep.

1153
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 2: Well they left him one on one pretty much the

1154
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: whole game. Yeah, and they got he got sacked, he

1155
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: got hit a lot, but they won.

1156
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 4: It was doing it five against New England, four against Baltimore,

1157
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 4: three against Vegas with two forced fumbles.

1158
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, it came in bunches there. I mean, he has

1159
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: one and a half.

1160
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 4: And you wonder next year because I also think that

1161
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: even though he was not able to necessarily get the

1162
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 4: sacks in those games, the end, you gave up twenty

1163
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 4: three to Buffalo, six to Pittsburgh, and eighteen to the Bengals. Yeah,

1164
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 4: and we saw what those teams had done. You know,

1165
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: Cincinnati was averaging forty one points a game the two

1166
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 4: games prior to playing US. Pittsburgh just put up a

1167
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 4: bunch of points in their last game against the Ravens. Yeah,

1168
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 4: in their winner and kind of a round the two

1169
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: games prior to playing US against Cincinnata, New England. The

1170
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 4: Bills had scored thirty four points. Yeah, so when teams

1171
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 4: do that, it seriously hampers their ability to play like Miles.

1172
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 4: I wonder what, listen, he always gets to fourteen. He's

1173
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 4: going to find a way.

1174
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:36,959
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1175
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 4: But you know, you wonder if more teams are going

1176
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 4: to try to do that to neutralize Miles or our

1177
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: team's going to say the opposite that when we go

1178
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: that extreme with it, it's hard to play good offensive football.

1179
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 6: Yeah it is, gentlemen, we have a little news.

1180
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 2: I see this. Yeah, go ahead give.

1181
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 6: It ravens oc. Todd Monkin has received a request to

1182
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 6: be interviewed for the Browns head coaching jams.

1183
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 2: All right. He really loved multiple requests.

1184
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 6: Last year year and should again from me and rapaport.

1185
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 6: I like Todd Monkin, all right.

1186
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: His name is being linked heavily in Columbus as potential

1187
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 3: offensive coordinator down there if as something Ryan Day could

1188
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 3: do it kind of mimic the Chip Kelly thing, and

1189
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 3: obviously won a national championship at Georgia darn good. Yeah,

1190
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 3: and he has been a game changer offensively in Baltimore

1191
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: for Lamar the last couple of seasons and is a

1192
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: brilliant offensive mine and is a dude.

1193
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 2: Todd is a dude. Oh yeah, And I would certainly

1194
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 2: we would enjoy getting to talk with him and spend

1195
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: time with him again, because he did spend a lot

1196
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 2: of time right here in the studio a lot. Get

1197
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: to see him a lot.

1198
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 4: Be fun to see him when he comes, if hopefully

1199
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 4: we're the interviews, Yeah, oh yeah, always.

1200
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be. Obviously AB has familiarity with him.

1201
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't know in terms of if there's any time

1202
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 3: where him and Schwartz of cross paths. I'm not sure

1203
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 3: if there's any any history of that. He was in

1204
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: the college game for a long time and then came

1205
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: to us. Wasn't he the was did he come to

1206
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 3: us from Missouri?

1207
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: Where did he come from at a military academy?

1208
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 7: No?

1209
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 2: His brother coaches, Well, he was.

1210
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 6: The Tampa Bay offensive coordinator.

1211
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 2: Tampa, and then was there Dirt Cutter. Wasn't there some

1212
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 2: sort of connection to Missouri somewhere or no?

1213
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 4: Tampa Tampa Tampa sixteen, seventeen eighteen, then the Browns nineteen,

1214
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 4: then twenty three, twenty four to twenty five, Baltimore.

1215
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: He goes from Southern Mississippi.

1216
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 4: He was the head coach in there you go twenty thirteen,

1217
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 4: seventeen and fifteen, then left us, went to Georgia for

1218
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 4: three years, then the Ravens for three years.

1219
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, predominantly NFL experience and won the national titles at Georgia.

1220
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 2: Did he get two of.

1221
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 6: Them at Georgia twenty one and twenty two?

1222
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 3: You were correct, Yeah, he got two of He was

1223
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:49,720
Speaker 3: the office coordinator for Kirby's two national titles.

1224
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 6: By the way, when he was the head coach in

1225
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 6: Southern miss he was the Conference USA Coach of the

1226
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 6: Year in twenty fifteen.

1227
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: He was a couple of stints at Oklahoma State LSU

1228
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: in two thousand and four, two thousand and five, two

1229
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: thousand and six with LSU and then the Jags Oklahoma State,

1230
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 4: Southern miss Bucks, Georgia, Ravens. Now potentially he could get

1231
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: his first head coaching job. Fifty will be turning sixty

1232
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 4: on February the fifth.

1233
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 3: So he would have been there with Jamis and Tampa

1234
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 3: mm hm would have been on would have been there

1235
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 3: and then obviously here the one year with Bake and

1236
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 3: then UH Georgia and then the last few years in Baltimore,

1237
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, he's he would certainly first of all,

1238
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: offensive genius.

1239
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 5: Yep.

1240
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 3: Guy really really brilliant play caller, really brilliant the way

1241
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 3: that he sees it. And then he's kind of a

1242
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 3: little bit you had those silos. He's a little bit

1243
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 3: of one too. He's kind of he's definitely got.

1244
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: If he got a person.

1245
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, culture tornado, like, he's no doubt, pretty direct, very

1246
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, ask a question, get an answer

1247
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 4: type thing for Todd.

1248
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: So there you go. That is that the first one

1249
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 2: we've seen, that's the first one for us. Yeah, there

1250
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: you go. We'll do one thought around Week eighteen.

1251
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,160
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1252
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:04,440
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1253
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1256
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,240
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1257
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: Coming up in about twenty minutes from now. Time for

1258
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: now a little one quick thought from the games that mattered.

1259
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: Hello, gibbet Hi, how are you?

1260
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 6: I do have a question we didn't get to earlier.

1261
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 6: All right, What is more surprising that Miami kept Mike

1262
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 6: McDaniel for now, or that the Giants kept their GM

1263
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 6: which has flown completely under the radar and everything that

1264
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 6: the Giants are running back Joe showing this is the

1265
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 6: man that on Hard Knocks.

1266
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm shocked.

1267
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 4: I'm shocked by that one McDaniel, Like when people thought

1268
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 4: that team was going to quit on him.

1269
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 2: No, they played hard.

1270
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 4: They played hard, and you know, quin yours looked serviceable,

1271
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 4: and yeah.

1272
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 2: So I'm definitely McDaniel. Joe Shine is definitely Joe Shine.

1273
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 3: The only thing I was curious about, So I think

1274
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: probably what saved him was Dart Scataboo. In this draft,

1275
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 3: they looked and ownership was excited about them. And then

1276
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: the more I thought about, I thought, because you remember

1277
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 3: who he called on draft day, who he called on

1278
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 3: that off season Hard Knocks. He called Elliott and he

1279
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 3: was trying to get the pick to draft Drake May

1280
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 3: because he liked Drake May the most. Yeah, like that

1281
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: was the guy that they wanted, was Drake May, which

1282
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 3: now seems like, well, yeah, everybody likes Drake May, but

1283
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 3: that was not the case. Then there were a lot

1284
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 3: of questions on Daniel's and May. The only consensus was

1285
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: Caleb and I remember that video that the video of

1286
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: him like on draft day calling Elliott like, if you

1287
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: have a change of heart, please call me. I want

1288
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 3: I want that pick yep. And I wonder if maybe

1289
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 3: if from ownership's perspective, yeah, you got acron thing went

1290
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 3: really poorly, but but this one, it seems like you

1291
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: would have had that one right and you landed Scataboo,

1292
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 3: you landed Dart. So we like those two guys. Now

1293
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: we'll see if they can stay healthy and all of that.

1294
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think still think that one's more shocking

1295
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 3: than McDaniel. Yeah, McDaniel's gonna be in a tough spot.

1296
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 3: Like it's always depends on what's the pecking order, right,

1297
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 3: Like does this new general manager have power over Mike

1298
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 3: or do they all report to whom?

1299
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: Did you see on the Dolphins.

1300
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 3: Thing they have Aikman and Marino involved in the GM interviews.

1301
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 6: Well, I saw Aikman over the weekend and Marin. I

1302
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 6: didn't know about Marino.

1303
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like Stephen Ross, one of Stephen Ross's kid,

1304
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 3: his son in law. Marino and Aikman would admit you

1305
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. You must have some relationship with Stephen Ross.

1306
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 3: I have no idea, but yeah, Aikman's in on the meetings.

1307
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 2: That's interesting, isn't that weird?

1308
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, if Troy Aikman want to be in football,

1309
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 3: why wouldn't he be involved with the Cowboys?

1310
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: That's right? Who could use a little help? Yeah, unless

1311
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 2: Jerry is just like, yeah, I don't I don't need

1312
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 2: any help.

1313
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 8: Right.

1314
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 6: Your job is to come out, my kids cap and

1315
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 6: look good.

1316
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: We just brought to Dallas Cowboys. I saw that oil guession.

1317
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 6: The Arizona Cardinals had put in a request interview Robert

1318
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 6: Sala of the forty nine or DC, but they've also

1319
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 6: put in a request to interview one of our former guys,

1320
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 6: Dolphins d C. Anthony Weaver for their head coaching.

1321
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 4: I like we've we've it certainly have good culture, good

1322
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 4: good presence to him. His defense played well for Miami

1323
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 4: for the majority of this season. I like we people

1324
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 4: have been kind of talking about him as being a

1325
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: potential head coach candidate for a few years.

1326
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 8: Now.

1327
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 6: Let's do a little one thought from the games that

1328
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 6: mattered in Week number eighteen of the National Football League,

1329
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 6: Saturday's game kind of mattered, end up not mattering. Tampa

1330
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 6: Bay sixteen Carolina fourteen. Baker Mayfield wins, but then loses.

1331
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 6: On Sunday, Nathan's the Girl won. Actually bo One thought, yeah.

1332
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 2: I mean I.

1333
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 3: Talked about this yesterday. This is exactly the way that

1334
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: I thought it would go down. Yep, and it went

1335
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 3: down that way. Because the football gods hate me this year.

1336
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: They do they do the thing that is really interesting

1337
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 3: to me. I'll take this from the Tampa Bay side.

1338
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 3: First eight weeks of the season, let's just say, first

1339
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 3: eight games of the season. Baker's an MVP candidate to Mahabuka,

1340
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: is a walk away offensive Rookie of the Year and

1341
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 3: is a in the conversation for the Pro Bowl. After

1342
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 3: those guys got back and after Bake got hurt and

1343
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 3: then and obviously everybody plays through stuff was never the

1344
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 3: same and a Mecca Booka had one catch for eight yards.

1345
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: He was targeted three times in this Tampa Bay win.

1346
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 3: Like what happened there? How did that become that? Like

1347
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: usually when you shot out of the cannon as a

1348
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: rookie receiver, like you kind of.

1349
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 2: Keep that pace. Oh yeah, you usually you.

1350
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 3: Don't see guys the cannon and then falling off. He

1351
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 3: didn't even get to a thousand yards. There's always started

1352
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: the season sixty seven and two touchdowns, twenty nine and

1353
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 3: a touchdown, eighty five and nine, one oh one in

1354
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: a touchdown, one sixty three in a touchdown. The final

1355
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: eight games forty yards no touchdown, thirty two yards no touchdown,

1356
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 3: forty two no touchdown, fifteen no touchdown, sixty four no touchdown,

1357
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 3: forty no touchdown, twenty no touchdown, eight no touchdown.

1358
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 2: Weird.

1359
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 6: And it's not just Mike Evans coming back now because

1360
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 6: he had that production when Mike Evans was in the lineup.

1361
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, Evans only was back for a couple that's a

1362
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 3: good point. And by the way, is this the first

1363
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 3: did Mike Evans? This is his streaks end, right, Yeah?

1364
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yea yeah yeah.

1365
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 6: He needed like one hundred catches.

1366
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 3: We ended a three hundred and six thirty for three

1367
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 3: sixty eight, first year in his career under one thousand,

1368
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 3: So that streak.

1369
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 2: Comes from end. Yeah, the NFL record, Yeah, even pretty crazy,

1370
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 2: love and straight.

1371
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 6: We watched this in Cincinnati Saturday night and none of

1372
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 6: us could figure it out. But Seattle goes into Santa

1373
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 6: Clara and Punks Pedros forty nine ers thirteen to three.

1374
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: Is the girl won just sa a dreadful offensive performance

1375
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 4: in the Niners had been averaged. I think like forty

1376
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 4: five a game going into that when Seattle's d is legit,

1377
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 4: Seattle's offensive line is good, they can run the ball

1378
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 4: walk around ninety seven. Charbonne had seventy four. You know,

1379
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 4: Jackson Smith and Jibby gets it done through the air

1380
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 4: for him. This was just kind of a stunner. Purty

1381
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 4: was nineteen to twenty seven for one hundred and twenty

1382
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 4: seven yards.

1383
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: Kittle was back. Didn't matter.

1384
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 4: They couldn't McCaffrey couldn't run it. He only had fifty

1385
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 4: seven total yards in this game. I mean, it's just

1386
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 4: it was a stunner. It was a stunner. Out possessed

1387
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 4: thirty eight minutes to twenty two minutes in this one,

1388
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 4: out gained three sixty one to one, seventy three first

1389
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 4: downs twenty three to nine.

1390
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 2: Gom it just wild.

1391
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 3: Here's a thing that's pretty crazy about Perty and some

1392
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: of these teams are non Seattle's level, obviously, but this

1393
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 3: is his December leading into this game against Seattle twenty

1394
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 3: three to thirty two ninety five, three touchdowns, no picks,

1395
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 3: and a win at Tennessee twenty five of thirty four

1396
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 3: to two ninety five, five touchdowns, one pick, and a

1397
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 3: win at Indy, a win against Chicago twenty four to

1398
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: thirty three three zho three three touchdowns and a pick.

1399
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: Like he's lights out.

1400
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 4: In eleven touchdowns two picks. Those arige almost three hour

1401
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 4: yards a game.

1402
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then from that too, can't do anything, nothing, nothing, Yeah,

1403
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 3: And I don't like, what did they know?

1404
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 2: Did they know?

1405
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 4: It's like Trent Williams was like, what was it just

1406
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 4: be Trent Willias. John Williams didn't play basically that entire

1407
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,720
Speaker 4: game way through for three h three and three touchdowns.

1408
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: I just don't in the first place, Like when this

1409
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 3: was Seattle favorite, I was just wait, why.

1410
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, they knew that Seattle defense is legit. And as

1411
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 4: my as my dad would say, nerd, it's a flawed

1412
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 4: Niners team. It's a flawed Niners team. The defense is

1413
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: not what it needs to be. So Miles finished the

1414
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 4: season with twenty three sacks at the record obviously, yep,

1415
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers finish the season.

1416
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 2: If I can find it real quickly.

1417
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 4: They finished these all right four eight, eleven, thirteen, fourteen

1418
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 4: and a half, fifteen and a half, sixteen and a half,

1419
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 4: seventeen and a half, eighteen and a half, nineteen and

1420
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: a half, twenty.

1421
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 2: As a team. As a team, twenty sacks, twenty sacks.

1422
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 2: They missed Nick Bosa, yet lowest in the in the

1423
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: league by quite a wide margin.

1424
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 3: It's gonna be crazy if Seattle like Darnold on the

1425
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: scrap heap.

1426
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm still in for fourteen.

1427
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 6: I'm still that guy that he still don't ask if

1428
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 6: they have to score points. I'm not sure that's the guy.

1429
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 3: Here's the this is this is the question you have

1430
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 3: to ask yourself, though, gibe So in other words, the

1431
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 3: only way he could disprove that almost is if he

1432
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl. Like anything short of that would

1433
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: be short of that.

1434
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 6: I feel like if they made it to the NFC

1435
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 6: Championship game, I would go, He's he's.

1436
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 2: A win a playout. He hasn't won a playoff game.

1437
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 2: He hasn't that many opportunities. Last year was.

1438
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 6: It, you know, like yeah, but and you lose.

1439
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 2: So they'll come out.

1440
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: Of the box through for four thousand yards sixty eight

1441
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 4: percent completions, twenty five touchdowns this year.

1442
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,479
Speaker 2: No, he was, No, he's right now.

1443
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 3: I think he's if you probably have to think of

1444
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 3: him in terms of like is he like Minnesota Cousins?

1445
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,640
Speaker 2: Is he like Goff?

1446
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: Like?

1447
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 3: Can he be that type? And by the way, most

1448
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 3: of the league would kill for that? Yeah, yeah you would.

1449
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: We would kill for the quarterback play that he's put

1450
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 3: out the last two years in Minnesota and Seattle. You'd

1451
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 3: kill for four thousand yards and thirty touchdown for sure.

1452
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 2: He was. He just started off much hotter though than

1453
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: he finished. Yeah, much hotter.

1454
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 3: But they have one weapon though, Like they just have

1455
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 3: just it's just JSN.

1456
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 2: That's and they're running the heck out of it right now,

1457
01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: which is all like what did they get for Metcalf?

1458
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,760
Speaker 2: Of two? Yeah? Like if they had Metcalf with js

1459
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 2: wouldn't that be a problem. Feels like it'd be real helpful.

1460
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's almost like they didn't know he was that good,

1461
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: or maybe they didn't know they were that good, Like

1462
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 3: why did they trade Metcalf?

1463
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, such a strange one.

1464
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 6: I don't know Sunday's big games for one thought. Falcons

1465
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 6: nineteen Saints seventeen Bishop Poorhouse bo Bishop one thought.

1466
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:27,560
Speaker 3: Suck Pierce Suck saw it coming. Not only that, I

1467
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 3: don't get a cover out of it for the scores.

1468
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 3: So like just all the old cam Neely ESPN commercial

1469
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 3: you want to kick my dog while you're here. I mean,

1470
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 3: that's kind of the way that it seems to me.

1471
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: I think that New Orleans found a little something yep

1472
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 3: with Tyler Schuck. He had a terrible interception in this

1473
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 3: game where he thought it was a man and it

1474
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,920
Speaker 3: was zone and they jumped it and it ended up

1475
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 3: being a pick six the other or not a pick six,

1476
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 3: but ended up leading to points the other way. Otherwise

1477
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:58,640
Speaker 3: New Orleans maybe could have won this game. But I

1478
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 3: think Kellen Moore feels like he has a really nice

1479
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 3: feel for play calling because really, yeah, Spencer Ratler played

1480
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 3: pretty well for them too. Before before Shuck get giving

1481
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: way to Shuck. They reinvigorated Chris Alave in a big way.

1482
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 2: Yep.

1483
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 6: I would feel he doesn't get hurt. They probably they

1484
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 6: might win this game.

1485
01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think the the big thing in

1486
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 3: New Orleans is you feel pretty good about Shuck and

1487
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:25,799
Speaker 3: more and some pieces that you have yep, and Atlanta

1488
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 3: ought to feel really good about the weaponry they have,

1489
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 3: and if they get it figured out more consistently earlier

1490
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 3: in the season, they're going to be a team of

1491
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:33,839
Speaker 3: consequence in that division.

1492
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, shuck.

1493
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 4: Sixty eight percent completions, twenty three eighty four, ten touchdowns,

1494
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 4: six picks, seven point three yards per attempt.

1495
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: Finished the season. I thought, you know, last three games

1496
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:43,519
Speaker 2: three oh eight.

1497
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 4: And one, three thirty three and two, two fifty nine,

1498
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 4: two seventy two and one, those were his last four.

1499
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,880
Speaker 4: So he really came on and was looking good. Yeah,

1500
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 4: he and a lave gotta go in a lave was

1501
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 4: a four sound stretch. Yeah, but he's looked He's looked

1502
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 4: pretty good. And yeah, Kellen Moore is a good offense.

1503
01:09:58,280 --> 01:09:59,640
Speaker 4: I mean, look at the difference than what's happened with

1504
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: where he left Philly. Yeah, so this year been.

1505
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 3: Tough and I didn't do that connection, but great point

1506
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 3: out of you. Yeah, and New Orleans. New Orleans was

1507
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 3: frisky offensively with both quarterbacks.

1508
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,760
Speaker 4: And their D is solid and their d over the

1509
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 4: second half of the season was quite solid.

1510
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're the number nine total.

1511
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 6: Defense final one in our one Thought Brief Recap Week eighteen,

1512
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 6: Pukers twenty six, Rappers twenty four on Sunday Night Football.

1513
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 4: We talked about it plenty last night, but incredible finish.

1514
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 4: Feel bad for Loop. Shocked that Baltimore allowed the Steelers

1515
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 4: to get to twenty six in this one. Rodgers had

1516
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 4: some really nice throws in it. They had the busted coverage,

1517
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 4: gets a touchdown to Austin, which was only touchdown I threw.

1518
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: I thought Lamar looked really good.

1519
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 4: Eleven of eighteen, two thirty eight and three touchdowns is

1520
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 4: wild flowers good.

1521
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:57,639
Speaker 2: The Ravens have a nice.

1522
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: Core, but just a weird, weird season, and then a

1523
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 4: tough loss from the kicker who had been really good

1524
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 4: all year, Like it wasn't that you know he had struggled, No,

1525
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 4: hadn't missed right, No, going into the game he was

1526
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 4: I mean finished the season making eighty eight point two percent,

1527
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 4: but he was over ninety percent going into that to

1528
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 4: that last one.

1529
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 3: The on the Baltimore side of it, well, real quick

1530
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 3: before I do either side of it, do you think

1531
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 3: if whoever invented football knew what they knew now, they

1532
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 3: would keep the field goal aspect of it. No, there

1533
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 3: isn't anything else in sport where something so critical is

1534
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 3: so different than the rest.

1535
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 2: Of the play.

1536
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the game is played away. Yeah, and yet

1537
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 3: the most important thing is this thing where like people

1538
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 3: will go, oh, what about the you know, the shootout

1539
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,360
Speaker 3: in the NHL. You know when they're trying to win

1540
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 3: in the shootout and it's a one on one. No, No,

1541
01:11:57,439 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 3: one on one happens all the time. In hockey, there's

1542
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 3: a breakaway goal all the time. That's a one on

1543
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 3: one play. It happens all the time. What about spot

1544
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 3: kicks for the World Cup? Okay, you're getting closer, but

1545
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,800
Speaker 3: that's still guys in play kicking the ball at the

1546
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 3: goalie trying to make a goal, which is something they do.

1547
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 2: It's just out the game. It's a very normal part

1548
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 2: of the game. The kick is not normal in any

1549
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 2: way to the rest of the game.

1550
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,799
Speaker 6: The Old Miss Bowl game the other night.

1551
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 3: The Old Miss Bowl game, the one DOUAA Championship game

1552
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 3: last night, we're two extra a field goal and extra points,

1553
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 3: which make gimmes. Weren't you think about what happened, whether

1554
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 3: whether it's this this Pittsburgh Baltimore game, like there's this

1555
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 3: happens all the time in the league where this play

1556
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 3: it's ever going to change. And I love our kicker

1557
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 3: friends and our older friends and all of our people,

1558
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 3: but it's like, man, this is crazy that an NFL

1559
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 3: game has decided on a guy who makes how many

1560
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 3: actions over the course of a game. That's crazy, seven

1561
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 3: or eight it really is. It's crazy. There's no other

1562
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 3: sport that's like it. For Baltimore, it's a big u

1563
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 3: blew it boy, because you go back to conversations we

1564
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: had in July about them, and it was you, Cincinnati, Buffalo,

1565
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: but especially you and Buffalo.

1566
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: Go now, go yep, and go now, we'll see what

1567
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 2: that's gonna look like and not.

1568
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: And then from the Pittsburgh side of it, the one

1569
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 3: thought I had from Pittsburgh was everyone has complained about

1570
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: that turf over there forever ever, ever, and they try

1571
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 3: to patch me all it together, and pitt plays on

1572
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: that turf, then they have to high school football. They

1573
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: do all that's nonsense they do with it, and the

1574
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 3: reality is they probably just shouldn't have all that much

1575
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 3: action on that field. But the turf monster got him

1576
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 3: on the double move and Austin walks in for the

1577
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 3: touchdown and he just slipped slipped in the turf.

1578
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: And that was it. That was it, that was it.

1579
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 2: Game over. Also very improbable.

1580
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 3: I saw when I stopped watching that game at halftime

1581
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 3: because it was a long weekend, and so I was

1582
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 3: good at that point. I thought, well, that's it. Ten

1583
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 3: three Baltimore handle this in the second half. Then I

1584
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 3: caught up the next morning on Monday morning, so fast,

1585
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 3: how's that possible that they didn't win that game in

1586
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 3: those circumstances.

1587
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 6: So all right, gentlemen, a little rapid fire in our

1588
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 6: final couple of minutes here before we hear from Joel

1589
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 6: Botonio playoff power rankings from fourteen to one.

1590
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 2: Oh both, I have to going seven to one by conference?

1591
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 7: Okay, all right?

1592
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 6: Do you want to do one conference today because we're

1593
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 6: up against it a little bit.

1594
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: And one tomorrow? Sure?

1595
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 6: Sure, there we go. Which one do you want to

1596
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 6: go first?

1597
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 2: And we're in the AFC, you can do that.

1598
01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 6: Let's go to the AFC. Number seven for you both. Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, okay,

1599
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 6: number six, Chargers.

1600
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:48,479
Speaker 2: Ah, I probably should the injury to Herbert broken hand. Tough, Herbert.

1601
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm good at that, Chargers six, all right, Number five,

1602
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 3: number five Jacksonville Jaguars.

1603
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 6: Ross Tucker on his podcast this morning, he said, the

1604
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,519
Speaker 6: winner at Jacksonville Buffalo is going to represent the AFC

1605
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl.

1606
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 2: Wow, I have Texans five.

1607
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 6: Okay, number four four Texan.

1608
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: Good job Texans four. Let me just do this from

1609
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: the top real quick before.

1610
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 6: I wait, bo, did you have Texans four?

1611
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 7: No?

1612
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 2: Texans five.

1613
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 3: I'm just retroact fitting this, Okay. I don't think there's

1614
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: much difference between all. I think I'm gonna go Denver four,

1615
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: Denver four, Okay, Denver four.

1616
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 5: And you had.

1617
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: Houston, Houston down to number three, number three, Buffalo Bill's three,

1618
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: Samesy's Bills three, number two. This is where I have

1619
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos. This is where I have the Jacksonville Jaguars. Wow, life, Lauren.

1620
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: Number one.

1621
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,560
Speaker 2: Both Pats right, yep, the Newland Patriots.

1622
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 6: So which number one seed do you have more confidence in?

1623
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 6: Denver or Seattle?

1624
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: Actually?

1625
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 3: Seattle their defense is saddle probably two. Denver's weird. I know,

1626
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 3: I great their defenses. Their defense is unbelievable.

1627
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: And next Nick does what he has to do to win.

1628
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: He does all right, He makes place.

1629
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,520
Speaker 3: The one thing that gave me pause on Denver. Was

1630
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: wasn't Jacksonville there?

1631
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 5: Like yeah?

1632
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 2: And beat the breaks?

1633
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jacksonville beat the brakes off him at home thirty

1634
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 3: four to twenty three weeks ago. And I can't shake

1635
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: that one. That's that's the pause that I have for them.

1636
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 3: And that was their first loss. Other than that, they

1637
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 3: won every game since week two.

1638
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty nine, twenty five touchdowns, eleven picks.

1639
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's wide open though, why open? Both of them

1640
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 3: are wide up?

1641
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 2: Which is fun. Yeah, it's going to be some good.

1642
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 6: There's there's a couple of games that you're kind of like,

1643
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 6: all right, i'd have that on in the background. There

1644
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 6: are a couple games this weekend. I mean, so bad.

1645
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why we're doing this Monday nonsense. Yeah,

1646
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 2: that is said wildcard. That sucks, dude, I hate that.

1647
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 2: I agree that's it really sucks. It does. But it's

1648
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 2: also not right to have a team play Monday.

1649
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 6: Why why don't just have three on Saturday and three

1650
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 6: on Sunday. Yes, it's not over.

1651
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 2: Three this easy. Go three and three and you're out

1652
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:38,280
Speaker 2: of it.

1653
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 3: So the schedule for the folks out there, you've got,

1654
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: you're going to start Saturday four thirty Rams at Panthers.

1655
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 6: Why do I have to wait all day?

1656
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1657
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 3: Then you got eight o'clock is your Prime video game,

1658
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:52,639
Speaker 3: So that'll be the time when everybody panics that it's

1659
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 3: on Prime video. That's Packer Packers at Bears, eight o'clock

1660
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 3: on Prime. And then Sunday one o'clock Bills Jaguars and

1661
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: the first game. Then your Fox game is Niners Eagles

1662
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,800
Speaker 3: in Philly. That is very very good. And then your

1663
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 3: your night game on NBC is Chargers Patriots at Foxborough.

1664
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 3: And then your Monday Night or which is an eight

1665
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 3: to fifteen kick.

1666
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: By the way, follow college football. Do the seven thirty kicks? Man?

1667
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 6: They win really nice.

1668
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: They so great to be hiven at eleven o'clock so great,

1669
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 3: it's so money, like, just take that.

1670
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: Do that.

1671
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:29,680
Speaker 3: It's a good one in you, John Mikey, Texans and

1672
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 3: Steelers is Monday night. On that side of things, all right,

1673
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,120
Speaker 3: we'll do the NFC side of it tomorrow. We'll go

1674
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 3: to the podium, coming up next to Joel Potonio. Cleveland

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: is one of the all timers, guard Joel Botonia.

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Speaker 10: Chilli You obviously I can major your comments known on

1688
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 10: Kevin a couple of weeks ago went because as you

1689
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 10: found out to New Today, how are you processing name?

1690
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 7: What's kind of fun to Yeah? I was sad for

1691
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 7: the human being, right, like you create a relationship six years. Yeah,

1692
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 7: I'm a loyal person and we had, you know, a

1693
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 7: couple of playoff runs. Six years a coach and like

1694
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 7: most of my career, obviously half my career was with

1695
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 7: him as the head coach. So I was just appreciative.

1696
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 7: I got to talk to him and just told him

1697
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,799
Speaker 7: I appreciate everything he did for this organization and and

1698
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 7: the way he led us, you know, greatest sport in

1699
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:53,800
Speaker 7: the world, tough business like that's what the NFL is,

1700
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 7: and so you go go up there and you show

1701
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 7: your appreciative, but I was I was disappointed in it.

1702
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,680
Speaker 7: You know. I think he's a great football coach and

1703
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 7: I think he'll get a chance somewhere and show that

1704
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 7: he can still coach in this leep.

1705
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 5: How does it affect your decision?

1706
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,559
Speaker 12: Do you want to go through another coaching change?

1707
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 7: Right, It's all part of it, you know, kind of

1708
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 7: been saying, like my body, you know, how I feel

1709
01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 7: is going to be the number one decision. But you

1710
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 7: got to you know, you know who you're playing for

1711
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 7: and in the situation that you're gonna step into, So

1712
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,680
Speaker 7: it's definitely a factor. You're time to give him to

1713
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 7: let him know before a free agency Yeah, I think

1714
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 7: my contract voids and six or eight weeks or something

1715
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 7: like that, So probably got to make a decision before that.

1716
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 8: Joel, A lot of guys will talk about just the

1717
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 8: relationship shit's go with. What is it that's unique about

1718
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 8: the way he builds he builds and connects with you guys.

1719
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he's had a leadership meeting probably every

1720
01:20:50,160 --> 01:20:52,880
Speaker 7: week since he's been here, So I've had that, you know,

1721
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 7: meeting for six years once a week. You know, he

1722
01:20:56,479 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 7: calls you in the off season to check on you,

1723
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 7: care about your family and and what they're doing, just

1724
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 7: all those type of relationships. You know, he jokes around

1725
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 7: with you, he's he's got a different sets of humor.

1726
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 7: So sometimes it's a while to be like, all right,

1727
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 7: is this is this a real joke right now? Are

1728
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 7: you being serious? You know him, So all those things

1729
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 7: play a factor, but I think it's just who he

1730
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 7: is every day. Like he was so consistent, and I've

1731
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 7: talked about that forever. His consistency was was never rolled

1732
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 7: the ride the rollercoaster, and that's just who he was

1733
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 7: every day. Joel.

1734
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 13: Obviously, Andrew gets to stay and he's going to run

1735
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 13: the coaching search and try to figure this out. You've

1736
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 13: been on him for a long time too, So what

1737
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 13: are your impressions to him? Do you think he's still

1738
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 13: the right guy to these disorgination?

1739
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's you know, he was here even before he

1740
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,680
Speaker 7: got the GM job, so I had a relationship with him.

1741
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 7: I think when I signed my first contract extension, he

1742
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 7: was in the building so we've we've you know, we've

1743
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 7: been together for a long time, and I have a

1744
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 7: lot of respect for ab and and how he's he's

1745
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 7: done his job. And you know, I think we have

1746
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 7: all the faith in the world that he can find

1747
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 7: a coach that's gonna help lead this team. You know,

1748
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 7: he hopefully we can hit another draft like this last

1749
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 7: year and help rebuild some of the holes on the roster.

1750
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 7: But you know, from what he's done, he's professional, like

1751
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 7: he's he's smart. He does all those things, like checks

1752
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:19,759
Speaker 7: all those boxes.

1753
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 11: Joe, you've pretty much seen in the lessons you've been here,

1754
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 11: and you know, one of the things Jimmy highlighted this morning,

1755
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 11: to say wins and teams just doesn't put it. What's

1756
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 11: it going to take for this franchise to get this

1757
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 11: thing on track on a consistent basis, Whereas it's you know,

1758
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 11: one good season followed by a couple of pas and

1759
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 11: then you're having a retool to rebuild.

1760
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 7: The e back where you Yeah, I think at the

1761
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 7: end of the day, the National Football League is a

1762
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 7: you know, quarterback league, right Like, if you have an

1763
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 7: elite quarterback in this league, it allows you to be

1764
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 7: a little bit more sustained in your success, right, And

1765
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,280
Speaker 7: it's not me saying like do you know Sador or

1766
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 7: Dylan or DeShawn or Bailey all any of these guys

1767
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 7: that guy, Right, we have those guys in our locker room.

1768
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 7: But until you have a guy that can stay healthy

1769
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 7: and can be on the field and be that guy

1770
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 7: for your team, like, it's hard to have that's the

1771
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 7: same success. Like, look at all the playoff teams this year,

1772
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 7: all the teams that consistently make it every year, it's

1773
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 7: usually the Patrick Mahomes, the Josh Allen's, the you know,

1774
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 7: the great quarterbacks in this league. And so until you

1775
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:32,240
Speaker 7: find one that's that's you know, stable and it can

1776
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 7: you know, lead your team, it's it's gonna be hard

1777
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 7: to not ride the roller coaster wins and losses.

1778
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 11: Like, I mean, you've played with so many of them,

1779
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 11: but like, do you know whatever rate quarterback looks like when.

1780
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 7: You see it, I mean, we've had some runs, right, Like,

1781
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,200
Speaker 7: we had some stretches of football where it was it

1782
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 7: was fun to be out there, fun to be around,

1783
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 7: and so I think you see those moments and you're like,

1784
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,040
Speaker 7: this would be pretty cool. You know, when you win

1785
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 7: eleven games in a season, like it makes the season,

1786
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 7: you know, so much better And so you have those

1787
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 7: moments of like this has been great football and the

1788
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 7: quarterbacks playing great football, and it gives you a chance

1789
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 7: to win every time you take the field.

1790
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 14: So a lot of times when a coaching change is

1791
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 14: made to go from either a fiery guy to a

1792
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 14: calmer guy and now I'm made.

1793
01:24:21,479 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 5: Back to a finally guy. Do you think that's important?

1794
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:29,640
Speaker 7: No? I think what the guy does culture building, like

1795
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 7: the x's and o's of whatever scheme, or who he

1796
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 7: hires to run those schemes, is a lot more important

1797
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 7: than if he yells or if he's calm. Do you

1798
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 7: think that this.

1799
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 3: Team is close enough to really turn things around next season?

1800
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1801
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 7: I think the defense, you know, I know it's year

1802
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 7: to year on a lot of things, but I think

1803
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 7: the defense plays at a top five level, you know

1804
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 7: what I mean still, and the offense can improve enough

1805
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 7: to be you know, a help. You can find some

1806
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:00,200
Speaker 7: more wins, Like every team you can nitpick wins. You

1807
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,559
Speaker 7: look at you know, three or four or five games

1808
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 7: that we had this year. The vision was one at

1809
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 7: nine and eight, Like, there's a chance to compete for

1810
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 7: the division. I think if you can improve some of

1811
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 7: the holes that you have and uh, you know, put

1812
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 7: together a coaching staff.

1813
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 14: Well, I know you don't have a decision yet obviously,

1814
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,720
Speaker 14: but I mean in general with this O line, does

1815
01:25:17,720 --> 01:25:21,680
Speaker 14: it feel like kind of a big transition offseason for

1816
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 14: you guys just given where contracts or at least the potential.

1817
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 7: For that obviously, Yeah, it's a huge I mean Jack,

1818
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 7: you know, Wyat myself, Posik, I think Kevin, I think

1819
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 7: most of the guys, Cam Robinson are all you know,

1820
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 7: there might be five or six guys under contract, So

1821
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 7: I think it's it's definitely gonna be a big transition,

1822
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 7: you know, for for the offense, and you know, all

1823
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 7: great things coming to an end, right, Like we had

1824
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 7: a nice run with this group of guys and the

1825
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,879
Speaker 7: people that did it, and you know, I'll always appreciate

1826
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 7: going to war with them, but yeah, I think they're

1827
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 7: gonna be a transition period for sure.

1828
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 5: How crazy is it?

1829
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:02,479
Speaker 14: Like there was stability for basically five or six years

1830
01:26:02,479 --> 01:26:06,240
Speaker 14: of slate turnover like JC, right, but I mean to

1831
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 14: stay together with the group.

1832
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, it was great. You get to know the people,

1833
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 7: you get to know their families, you get to know,

1834
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:15,400
Speaker 7: you know how they play and what motivates them. So

1835
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 7: it was fun. It was a fun run of that

1836
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 7: group of guys go to.

1837
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 13: A bunch of defensive guys who made a case for

1838
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 13: Jim Schwartz maybe even be the head coach.

1839
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you've been around it for a little bit. What

1840
01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 5: are your thoughts on that?

1841
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 13: And you've gotten enough to know well enough to think

1842
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 13: that he could be a good.

1843
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 7: In the world. Yeah, he's a good coach man. I

1844
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 7: think everywhere he's been the defense has improved and gotten better.

1845
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 7: Like you can look at his track record with when

1846
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 7: he got to the Eagles, when he got to Buffalo,

1847
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 7: you know all those things, like there's big jumps when

1848
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 7: he came here. Our defense has been probably overall the

1849
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:50,680
Speaker 7: last three years, you know, if not the best, one

1850
01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 7: of the best units in the league. You know, the

1851
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 7: defense plays with a swagger and a culture and it's different,

1852
01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 7: Like it's easy to just tell the defense to like

1853
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 7: go run to the ball, you know what I mean,

1854
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,840
Speaker 7: and like stuff. So there's a little difference there, But

1855
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 7: I think what he's done as a coach, he definitely

1856
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 7: deserves a look to be a head coach.

1857
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 11: So do you think you expect Kevin to, whether it's

1858
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 11: soon or later, be an NFL head coach.

1859
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 7: Again, Yeah, I think so. I don't know what his

1860
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 7: plans are, you know what I mean, if he's gonna

1861
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 7: take a year off or go you know, B and OC,

1862
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 7: but I think he will be a head coach in

1863
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 7: the NFL, probably sooner rather than later.

1864
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:32,920
Speaker 10: Julie, you mentioned that he gets the job when you

1865
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:35,600
Speaker 10: maybe least a factoring your decision. I guess with that

1866
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 10: in mind, what are the things that you know you

1867
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:40,720
Speaker 10: specifically maybe are going to look for and a head

1868
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 10: coach and one a head coach you think of the best

1869
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 10: from the organization if you're.

1870
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 7: Worrying about Yeah, I think the culture they build, right,

1871
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 7: Like it's hard to tell, you know, just meeting somebody,

1872
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 7: but what kind of their their standards are, what they do,

1873
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 7: holding people accountable? All those things are in fact, what

1874
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 7: staff they put together. If it's as a coach, who

1875
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 7: they're hiring at the OC, if it's an offensive coach,

1876
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 7: who's their defensive coordinators? Like your position coach is the

1877
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 7: person you work with the most, right, so like you

1878
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,559
Speaker 7: bring in someone that you trust or you know of

1879
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 7: all those things are factors, but you know, I just

1880
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 7: think it's like, how do you build a culture? You know,

1881
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 7: and who do you who do you bring on your

1882
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:25,040
Speaker 7: staff would probably the most important things.

1883
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 5: Obviously.

1884
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 11: I know you're gonna win your options.

1885
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you do decide this is it for you?

1886
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 7: How meaningful would it be for.

1887
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,560
Speaker 10: You to win your last two games against you know,

1888
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 10: the hours you played a bum?

1889
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 7: Yeah that was great. You know, anytime you eat Pittsburgh

1890
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 7: and since the division, guys like it's, uh, it's extra special,

1891
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 7: and you know, you don't know, like if it is

1892
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 7: the last, if it's not. I I definitely, you know,

1893
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 7: took in the moments yesterday a little bit in case

1894
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 7: it is the last, but I was happy to I

1895
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 7: was happy to walk off.

1896
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: With a win.

1897
01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 7: You know, I remember my first win. I don't know

1898
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 7: if anybody remembers, but it was the Saints Week two

1899
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 7: of twenty fourteen walk off field goal Billy Kundiff. We

1900
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 7: beat the Saints on a walk off, and then I

1901
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 7: was like, if this one happens to be the last

1902
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 7: one walk off field goal against the Bengals, you know,

1903
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:21,720
Speaker 7: so that'd be a cool way to kind of cap it.

1904
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:26,400
Speaker 7: But I'm just so focused on my family right now

1905
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 7: and how I'm going to recover here in the next

1906
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 7: few weeks, and then I'll make a more informed decision

1907
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 7: in a few weeks.

1908
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 13: And did you say you feel different now than you

1909
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:35,839
Speaker 13: did last year?

1910
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,320
Speaker 5: It's about the retirement.

1911
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 7: Decisions, it's pretty similar. I think it's just like and

1912
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 7: it's so hard. You know, you get to the off

1913
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 7: season no matter what, there's just like sigh of like,

1914
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 7: you know, it's hard to be like, hey, I'm retiring

1915
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 7: right now, and you don't do anything till June or

1916
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 7: July anyway, so it's tough to make the decision. So

1917
01:29:58,080 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 7: I think I'm as similar vote as I was last year.

1918
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 5: It believe that though, Joel, this is the end. How

1919
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 5: do you how you look back on your twelve year career.

1920
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 7: With great pride? You know, It's it's hard to put

1921
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 7: into words, you know. I just just try to give

1922
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 7: it everything, So I uh stuff, you know, you try

1923
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:28,400
Speaker 7: and go out there and be the best person of

1924
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 7: yourself and do what you can to help the team win.

1925
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 7: And I try to do that every day. That's what

1926
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 7: That's what I did, Joel.

1927
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 12: It looked like real early yesterday, you. You know, normally

1928
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 12: your You've said before you kind of guys stayed in

1929
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 12: the locker room. Yeah, it looked like you were kind

1930
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 12: of out there in the end zone kind of taking everything.

1931
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 8: And had you done that before this year?

1932
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 7: Or well, truthfully, yesterday I was, Uh, my family came down,

1933
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 7: so I was trying to find out where they were

1934
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 7: sitting in the stands. I usually walk out there if

1935
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 7: I hadn't played in the stadium in a while, like Chicago,

1936
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,760
Speaker 7: I walked out beforehand. I'll just to get a feel

1937
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 7: of it. But I've played in Cincy so many times

1938
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,120
Speaker 7: that I knew what I was kind of looking for

1939
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 7: their section before the game, So it wasn't anything too crazy.

1940
01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:15,080
Speaker 7: I just wanted to know where they were saiding at.

1941
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:19,880
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, he's the best. Great Joel Biton

1942
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,920
Speaker 2: all emotional there. Yeah, yeah, everything you'd want it to be.

1943
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Speaker 2: All Right, We're back tomorrow.

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