WEBVTT - Ep 255: Most Wild Only Fans Requests 0:00:02.320 --> 0:00:09.800 I guess what decision we're about to make horrible decisions. 0:00:10.880 --> 0:00:14.920 We are not starting like that again. Okay, okay, okay, 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:19.200 I know it's called horrible decisions of what I but um, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.760 I am reformed. My wholeness has been deleted. It's being gone. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.480 We didn't do it. Who my wholeness was? I know 0:00:28.600 --> 0:00:31.520 you stille, but my wholeness was deleted. I had a 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:35.320 moment and I was wiped out over a hill. Oh 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.600 oh is that yeah? That's how it works? It sure is. Okay, anyway, 0:00:39.640 --> 0:00:46.320 Happy Black History Month. Everyone is um the queens of 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:50.440 horrible decisions. As you know, our show has been around 0:00:50.479 --> 0:00:53.080 for about say sinios now, and it's a long running 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:56.680 black show. Yeah, it is. It's crazy because so I 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:01.040 followed this. I followed I'm literally it's so engulfed into 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:06.200 everything podcasting. I read that there is none of the 0:01:06.240 --> 0:01:12.000 top shows currently are newer than two years old. But 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.400 it's also it also said something like there's millions of podcasts, 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:19.040 but only like two hundred and something thousand or even active, 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:21.720 Like so many people start podcasts and don't keep and 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.039 don't keep going, like it's amazing, like that we're wreaking 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:28.000 here six years later and five years later to also 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:31.759 like add with that, the interesting thing about podcasting deals 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:33.840 and things like that and things to get started is 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:40.600 two things happen when deals acquire right. Either a podcast 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.320 is doing well and they want to jump on it 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.360 before anyone else does, or they want to be the 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:47.600 first to break it. And the difficult thing about being 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.640 the first to break it is networks lose so much 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.480 money it's called a loss leader. Basically um being able 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.360 to say, oh, we have this show now and they're 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:58.800 gonna be great, but no one's ever heard it, like 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.080 a network unleashing a brand new show that doesn't exist. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:03.000 I mean a lot of times I feel like that's 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.120 what unfortunately has taken away from like just the average 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.040 person starting a podcast because all the famous, a lot 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.520 of the a lot of the networks want to bank on, well, 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.640 this person has a celebrity, this much following, we should 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.800 be getting this much traction on a brand new podcast, 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:22.760 And to be fair, celebrities don't always resonate with like 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.160 having really anything interesting to say for her. For I 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:28.600 was talking to um done Rowlings today because he wants 0:02:28.639 --> 0:02:30.400 to come in from l A and film in the 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.959 studio and he was like, bro, I'm so sorry to 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.000 people telling me like what my podcast is supposed to 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.760 because I'm like famous. He's like, I don't like give 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.800 a funk about that famous nigger ship. Like I'm a 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:41.240 comedian at the end of the day, I'm a good 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.600 interviewer and I know I am, and I want to 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.720 produce a show that I want to do, not this 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.040 like famous person show with like big guests like Nigga. 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.600 I'm funny, and I think that that's a really good 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:54.920 leg to stand on. One He's right, he is, you know, 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.520 iconic and funny, but it's true, Like can you imagine 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:00.320 being that big of a star and then someone like, oh, 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:01.840 this is what you should be doing because this is 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.120 what what everybody else does, the Joe Rogans and then 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.360 this person and that person. It's like it must suck 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.480 because you're like, man, I just want a podcast because 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:14.400 podcasting at its most natural state is to me no outline, 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.280 almost like free flowing. I mean, Horrible Decisions has an ouline, 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:18.880 but you know what I mean, like, it's not this 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.360 week I disagree fully with with Like now it has 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:24.280 an outline, but it doesn't. I'm saying we have a 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.400 like a thing that we do. I think the shows 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:29.960 without outlines are the ones that aren't getting the deals 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:32.680 and the ones that I don't. Even Brewing Idiots has 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.520 a structure and outline. Joe has a structure and outline, 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.680 but I'm saying it's an outline and not for real, 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:41.720 like we have a free flowing conversation. I don't think 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:43.600 you're hearing what I'm saying like outline as far as 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.800 like we know what to expect at the top or 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.320 the end of the show. That's what I meant by outlaw. 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:50.440 Like the way that we write it out, we never 0:03:50.520 --> 0:03:52.680 follow it like T to T to T. It's not 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:55.520 the daily It's not Ted Talks right, Like we have 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:58.200 a free er flowing podcast and all of the popular 0:03:58.200 --> 0:04:02.120 ones the same. Dude Builds podcast is three hours of nothing, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.720 and it's so good because you don't know what you're 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:08.080 gonna get next. Sometimes I think those structured ones like 0:04:08.600 --> 0:04:10.560 you feel like you're almost watching a TV show. And 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.280 that's what makes podcasts is so cool is you get 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.360 to listen to humans just talk and like talk about anything. 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.600 There's things that you've said that you may not feel 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.640 the same about anymore. Same for me, because who knows 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:22.680 that spent so many hours of my life talking like 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.880 this is just conversational ship. I also want you all 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:28.960 to know because again I read you'all motherfucking comments. This 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:32.320 isn't me arguing I agree to disagree. The podcast that 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.280 I enjoy, the podcast that I listened to as a consumer, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.080 are structured. I know what I'm getting from the what 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.320 do you think I'm already said? The read has a 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.920 structured outline. I know I'm going to get the black person, 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:48.279 the black excellence. I know i'm gonna get the hot topics, 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.760 and I know i'm gonna get the listener letters, and 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:53.640 then the read for brilliant idiots. I know i'm gonna 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.479 get the ship we don't care about Tomorrow. I know 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.479 i'm gonna get their church and out Smith. I know 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.359 i'm gonna get I like the segments with Joe Button. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.279 I know i'm gonna get the catch up of the week. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:04.240 Then they're gonna dive into music, then they're gonna get 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.039 into current events, and I know I'm ending with sleep, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:09.560 so maybe and then, but then I also listened to 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.840 True Crime. I love docuseries on podcasting. I love things 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.800 that for sure are scripted. For sure, there's a narrator. 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:19.640 I love when there's music put in, when when the tone, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.080 generations and outlines are different. The way that I listen 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.479 to podcasting, which is what I'm saying, there's been not 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:27.200 one podcast and I try to get into the new ones, 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:30.159 even if we get into fucking poor minds and what 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:32.240 they've been able to do, if we get into Cocktails 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:35.760 who has also been on this show. Every podcast that 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:37.880 I actually feel like I can listen to on a 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:42.560 weekly has segments that they stick to weekly. Do doesn't 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.919 flow like uh one to three, four, five, six, No, 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.080 But there's a structure and there's an outline, and I know, 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:51.640 person I don't want to go. I'm not listening to 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.799 the Joe Rogan's, I'm not listening to the Bill Burds 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:55.919 because I don't want to go into a podcast and 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:57.680 not know what the funk I'm listening to. I already 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.919 listened to six podcasts minimum a week. I love knowing 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.039 what I'm tuning in for. So there's something interesting about that, 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.719 because the reason that it's important to know what some 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:11.000 of just does this mean our job? The Joe Rogans 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.480 of The Bill Berds or whatever, right, like they're in 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.680 a category that, yeah, they're white, the ones we don't exist, right, 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:21.720 And so there is something, whether it's my demographic or not, 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.000 that people are enjoying about it. And one thing I 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.200 have learned, at least with horrible decisions, the best content 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:29.400 from the show is not something we knew we were 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.480 going to talk about. The best contents I've seen I'm 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.359 brilliant Those moments that you cannot write down and create, 0:06:35.520 --> 0:06:37.719 that is what I'm talking about that makes podcasting so good. 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:39.960 It's not the outline e ship. It's just not and 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.520 never will be, you know, like when you have to 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.520 be so rigid and follow something, it may not come 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.000 off as natural. To me. When I listened to a 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.280 Ted Talks or Daily or True Crime, I feel like 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:52.680 I'm listening to something heavily produced that could be TV, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:56.120 not almost podcasting, right, because podcasting, I think of it 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.160 as The Read was probably the first podcast I really 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.120 sunk my teeth into. And to me, I feel like 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:02.640 I'm listening to two friends. Yeah, I know what they're 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.280 gonna talk about, people that we're gonna talk about sex. 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.320 I don'rmally listen to hot topics, but it doesn't feel 0:07:06.320 --> 0:07:08.600 as rigid as a daily or a Ted talk, right, 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.720 And I think that's what I mean by like putting 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:16.000 those parameters on podcasting makes it hard when you have 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.920 two people that don't need anything. Whatever you came up 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.200 with today. If your phone died and my phone died 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.120 and we had no outline, the show would still go 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.760 on because I'm good at my job and so were you. Right, 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:27.880 That's why we've done the show for six years. I 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.200 don't think you can recreate things like this. That's why 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.520 I think famous people are fucked with their show because 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.680 they've been making TV and having ship produced for them 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.400 that they have to follow. And podcasting, nigga, you can't 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.880 just birth the good podcast. You have it or you don't. 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.880 That's what's cool about regular people like us, right, making 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:49.680 a podcast that aren't quote unquote celebrities like that is 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.840 the real sauce. And that's how I'm able to like 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.600 getting in maneuvering rooms and talk to someone that's huge, 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.520 and I could still be like, oh, I'm here, because yeah, 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.120 I did do that well at podcasting. I really think 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.920 that those normal quote unquote people, podcasters and a lot 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.400 of the true crime people are which makes it even 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.440 crazier to me that they haven't had some huge famous 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.480 person to a true crime pod yet. But I love 0:08:15.560 --> 0:08:17.240 that about that. I felt like when I was listening 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:19.400 to Jesus and Marrow, like that's what I had. The 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:21.760 brilliant idiots gives you that vibe. Even though Charlotte Mee 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.400 Andrew Stults are super famous, Joe Budden is a famous 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:26.800 person that gave people that vibe. A lot of famous 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.960 people cannot do that. That's why they're failing. Bro. I 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.280 think Joe Rogan too, I don't like, I know, people 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:34.720 say he was famous before and the fear factor thing, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:37.160 but I really don't think people clicked on Joe Rogan Rogan, 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.440 do you? I mean, I mean he was. He was 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.520 on our TV like for decades while we were growing, 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.280 and he didn't have a podcast, and he had a 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:49.280 podcast before podcast. But really yeah, he's been doing that 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.120 ship for a long time. So yeah, like, um, he's 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.920 he's a very good interview. I just have a different perspective. 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.760 I literally, if I have advice for anyone that's starting 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.520 a podcast, I would never tell people don't care how 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:04.040 fucking interesting they think they are. I would never, never 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.480 ever give the advice of someone to go into a 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.920 room and sit in front of a mic and just 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.600 talk without an outline. I think you guys are comparing 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:16.319 structures and segments will structure segment. But regardless, we're talking 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.560 about but yeah, but I'm agreeing. I agree with that. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.960 But to me, But to me, you freestyle, but I don't. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.120 I can say. I can say today we're gonna talk 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.560 about politics. It's it's it's something very vague and it's 0:09:26.600 --> 0:09:29.400 just a topic. And then we free flow because we're 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.080 opinionated people, however, and we have opinions, which I have 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.760 friends who have worked on scripted pods with celebrities that 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.480 literally are waiting for their scripts. They because a lot 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.959 of people also fear their opinion. Because it's got a 0:09:41.960 --> 0:09:46.839 lot of celebrity interviews. It's opening up the floodgates for 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.079 people to not only share their opinion, but then receive 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:51.880 the criticism, and a lot of people are not open 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.600 to that. But also a lot of people don't have 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.679 their own opinions. They're regurgitating things that they see on 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.240 Twitter or from other podcasters, And now what's separating you 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.360 from everyone else. But at the end of the day. 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.440 If you live in fucking South Carolina and you and 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:08.600 your homies are just sitting in front of a mic, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.199 what makes me want to listen to you more than 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.079 anyone else? And I'm sorry If I just tune in 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.360 and you sitting here talking about nothing and I have 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:18.920 no idea why I'm tuning into you, I'm sorry. I'm 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:23.280 not culture interesting because I feel like people can only 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:25.839 take probably one or two at least. I'm that person 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.160 like four or five in mind, Like, I don't really 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:31.040 have different Everyone has a different opinion, and I love also, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.880 like when you are someone that just starts one off, 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.240 what's gonna make me want to listen to you talk 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.760 about it more than I do to breakfast class. I mean, 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.280 I'll be honest with you. But see, the thing is 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:43.080 you have to have I really wanted. Well, you're a podcaster, 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.760 Bridgie Kelly is a famous person. You were a podcaster, 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.880 a good podcaster, Like, yeah, but have a reputation for that, Yeah, 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.120 But I don't have. I have a reputation for talking 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.440 about sucking dick. No one. I don't think anyone really cared. 0:10:55.440 --> 0:10:57.160 Now I have a reputation for talking about sucking dick, 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.200 But I'm awesome, good at what the from. But that's 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.800 what I'm saying. I don't think anyone necessarily thought I 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.400 could say much about music. That's not true. I mean, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.600 I'm just saying from what I've read, I don't think 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:10.320 people thought much. People still call us when they introduced 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:13.280 us on other podcasts we were just on reasonably shady. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:15.360 They said, we have the biggest hos, not that we 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.840 have two women who have carved their way out in 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.000 podcasting and are great at what the funk they do. No, 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:26.760 we're still getting introduced on another podcasts. It's not bothering 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:31.000 me unlike people are. It's horrible, but it's not bothering me. 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.960 What I'm just saying is is in this space and 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.440 you can feel free to give your advice on podcasting. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.280 What you've been able to do and where you take 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.240 your podcasting career is different than where I'm taking my 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.000 podcast career. We both the same way when we sat 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:50.120 on Brilliant Idiots Fucking Charlemagne lives by audio and swears 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:54.320 by audio, Andrew Schultz lives and swears by video. They 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.680 both are phenomenal of what the funk they do, and 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.480 their geniuses in their prospective Pockets, and I think it's 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.760 the same. So I just want to agree to disagree. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.080 But I personally listen to five or six uh curt 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.199 event music based podcast during the week, and I love 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.040 it because I know I'm going to get a different 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.000 opinion from those people. That's crazy. I don't I do 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:16.920 oh my friends or my friends, heyde, my friends, my homegirl, 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.199 we just went to Aruba. She was at my house 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.360 for a week. I'm I'm doing my makeup to podcasts. 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.280 She's like, bro, can we talk? Afro beats literally all 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:29.240 my friends listen to. She was like, is this this 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.760 this Joe? Oh, they're kind of interesting. She she knows 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.600 ish and so we're listening to Joe's pod. This is 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:37.960 when I was where where were we? Where did me 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:40.360 and Crystal just go somewhere? But I had heard listen 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.839 to Joe my friends know if you with me and 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.840 the Bluetooth is mine, baby, we're listening to people talk 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:51.160 while we're getting ready hearing people talking. But I've learned 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.880 over the years that podcasting for me, what makes me 0:12:55.960 --> 0:13:01.400 so different is that I don't replay. And Brianna and 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.320 I were talking about this because Brianna play what, so 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:07.200 I don't. I can't like it that I won't replay myself. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.959 I won't. I don't listen to myself. I don't. But 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.320 a lot of people replay, right, especially in the beginning, 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.959 I don't replay listen to other podcasts because I want 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.600 to be the most natural that I can be. In 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:20.960 the beginning, I really wanted to learn a lot about podcasting, 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:22.720 so I was listening to a lot. But I would 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:27.080 catch myself maybe even saying something that I didn't even realize, 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:28.880 Like it coul almost seem like you're stealing something, but 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.199 you're really not. You just listen to something for hours, 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.720 so you may repeat the same joke and like, I'm 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:35.600 never going to be the person that can do that. 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.400 Like that's so embarrassing, you know what I'm saying. So 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:40.360 like I choose not to. And it's funny because Alex 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.520 said to me the other day something about so and 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:45.440 so who records here. I was like really, and he 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.559 was like, Nike, do you listen to podcasts? I was like, no, 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.599 fucking work with the right forty hours a week during podcasting, 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.160 horrible decisions for facts sake, the Patreon tre both and 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:58.320 then on top of that owning the studio, Like, I 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:01.440 get really scared that I will turn into a podcast 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:06.199 like Robot. So I'm that I try to do my 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.560 best and like I literally wake up and read pot News. 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:14.040 So pod news is that's but no, no, no, no, 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.679 it's website. It goes to my email. So before I 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:21.640 do literally anything, I wake up and I read pot News. 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:23.440 So pot news is I want to say they're connected 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:25.960 to pot people. I'm not sure. But I learned about 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.680 all of the acquisitions. I learned about the different trends 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.080 in the industry. Um, that's where I just came out 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.240 with this. Like when I said this that earlier, Um, 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:37.480 I know who's buying who. And when I was in accounting, 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.200 I used to want to be in mergers and acquisitions. 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.880 So the same way Stitcher is now a part of 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:47.320 Serious x M shout out to Stitcher, well, because then 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.720 it's really good to listen, to pay attention to if 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:53.080 you buy stocks and if you invest. Yeah. So so 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.480 the way that it's mid roles Stitcher and Serious that 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.160 is all like a merger and acquisition, the way that 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:03.400 Spotify ball match it. So mind you as a podcaster, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.560 I'm looking because now I'm seeing where the money is going, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:09.280 and it's why you know, shout out to who we 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.040 just signed with it I was able to get like 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.880 a seven figure deal, Like it's fucking just like just 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.200 just knowing the landscape of what you're doing. I think 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:21.400 it's the same whether you're incorporate, if you are in finance. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.720 You want to you want to see where where everything 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.960 is changing. I think those are two different things. Like 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:31.120 when I should definitely like know about it's just I 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.560 can't listen to it as entertainment anymore because I'm an 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:36.240 entertainer and I feel like I'm like, I gotta be 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:37.960 as natural as I can't. I remember when I started 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:40.800 my TV show, because that to me was a milestone 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:42.840 and I was like, this has got to be good. 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.560 I maybe wanted to watch a few episodes of people 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.800 that have shows like mine or comps, which is something 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.480 you can compare it to, right if you've ever like 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:52.440 made a deck for something, you might put a comp 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:55.080 of what it is. And so when I watched some 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.040 of the comps, I was like, oh no, I can't 0:15:57.040 --> 0:15:59.320 watch this anymore because now my mannerisms are going to 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.080 look like this person then, or I'm going to try 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.000 to like fix what I'm doing, Like I can only 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:05.600 be lazy and if I'm not her then like, this 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.520 isn't what these people paid for me for. This is 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.280 why people are gonna tute into it. I'm gonna start 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.680 turning into something else. Like it's it's a hard like 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:15.680 give and take because even for Audible, you know, I'm 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.200 working on producing podcasts for one of the biggest fucking 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:22.360 black directors. Like he's a hundred millionaire a million times over. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.120 People are waiting to see what he's making next, and 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.600 this is his first time doing podcasts, and like, how 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.440 can I not listen to it? But I'm terrified that 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.440 I will make it sound like another one. And it's 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:36.840 that like it's this thin line of how can I 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.520 learn and not emulate inspiration outside of the room they 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.920 already in? Yeah, how can you really end in? Inspiration 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:45.760 is a big deal to when people say that you know, 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:49.560 horrible decisions and inspired inspired them. You know, I always 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:53.600 am uh grateful. But at the same time, if I 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.520 see they have a sex podcast, I'm like, wow, is 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:57.920 it different if we made you want to make one? 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.720 Not almost something but really just curious. It's like, how 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.760 did it inspire you to make something different. And I 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.560 think my most impressive moments I've had when people have 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.520 told me that, or when like I had to do 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.800 that has a wrestling podcast that told me that, and 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.280 I was like, horrible decision on He was like, oh yeah, 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:14.960 like that is a podcast that I was just like, 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.160 I want to be just like that, and you're talking 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.560 about sports. That's dope as fuck. And that's why it 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.800 is important to listen to like things outside of yourself, 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.200 you know, and I want everyone to know to like 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.480 I think that Obviously the average person listening may not 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.480 be a podcaster, but this is also super relative. And 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.680 any kind of like corporate work you could be doing, 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.479 you should check out what other people are doing. When 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:38.760 I worked for telecommunications, I wanted to know how much 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.600 everybody else was getting paid for the same title that 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.120 I had in other fucking companies so that I could 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.880 use that to my benefit. You know, We've always got 0:17:45.880 --> 0:17:47.800 to make sure like you kind of check that out. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:49.800 And even if it's not because you may want to 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:52.240 leave a place, it's just so you know, because no, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.000 you can never be the okay dope like there's it 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.320 takes nothing to soak up as much info as you can, 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.280 Like I'm the person that like listens to book about 0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.760 how to be a millionaire, and now I'm like, well, 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.879 if a million is easy to get, what comes after that? 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:06.760 And how do you keep it growing? Like we have 0:18:06.840 --> 0:18:08.879 to make sure that we're always feeding ourselves that because 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:10.640 I want to flex for the rest of my life 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.200 on Instagram and whatever app will come after that. That 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:15.239 mean said, do you guys, would you guys say at 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:17.760 least that you agree that not just anyone could hop 0:18:17.800 --> 0:18:23.280 on Mike? Of course? I mean well no, I mean 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:26.320 for sure, not just anybody can be I mean to 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.880 be honestly, anyone can sit in front of a mike. Yes, 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:33.800 Can anyone be successful and monetize the podcast? No, but 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.360 anyone can sit in front of a mic can talk absolutely. 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.640 Because where I gave you guys kudos probably I think 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:40.359 it was yesterday, is that you guys hold up a 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:43.280 whole structure, right, But let's say if you guys go 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:46.280 free form, Like let's say that, well, the episode that 0:18:46.400 --> 0:18:49.480 just came out, right, you guys go free form, but 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:53.280 under the horrible branding an umbrella, and you guys know 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:54.800 how to stick to it. A lot of people that 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.600 I've seen across my time just kind of talk and 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.240 that's it, and it's like that I gotta have EISO. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.720 I'm like, we're joking about no outline, but that episode 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.840 still had but that there's still a format, and that's like, oh, yeah, exactly, 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.440 yeah there's still a format. But then there's also segments 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:10.720 to where I understand in your world where it's like 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:12.600 the outline at least, And I've always said this to 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.680 everybody who comes to the studio. An outline always brings 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.479 you back to the show and then you guys know 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.959