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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey p joe pis Apia,

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Speaker 1: and today we're talking make or break picks. That's right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows there's risk involved with some selections in our

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Speaker 1: fantasy football drafts. They're just too tempting not to take,

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Speaker 1: and some that we will take that will eventually lead

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Speaker 1: to our demise. And speaking of our demise, look there's

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Speaker 1: Andrew Erickson. Everybody. He's back here on the program. Last

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Speaker 1: to lend some calm and some voice of reason to

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Speaker 1: YouTube is not new, You're not new around here. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk some ball here and Tara, I feel like

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Speaker 1: every year there's risk in certain players that sometimes you

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Speaker 1: just can't stay away. So for you, is it about

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Speaker 1: the environment these players play in? Is it the talent themselves? Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you just side which players are the ones

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Speaker 1: that you're willing to make or break your season with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to be environment coaching, because we know

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Speaker 2: all of these guys are talented. I mean, I guess

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Speaker 2: some slip through the cracks, right, but for the most part, right,

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Speaker 2: they've all got the talent. It's just whether or not

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Speaker 2: you know, who is added in and maybe if there's

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Speaker 2: any conflicts there. So yeah, in environment coaching situation and

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Speaker 1: For me, Andrew, it's a lot about price tag, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't like to be wrong early on, wrong

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Speaker 1: later not a big deal, and right later, oh that's

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Speaker 1: league winner kind of stuff. But to me, it's all

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Speaker 1: about the price of these players and what you're willing

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Speaker 1: to pay. How do you factor in the whole make

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Speaker 1: just too rich for your blood?

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Speaker 3: I think for me it's a matter of what do

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Speaker 3: I win when I win? Right, So if you're willing

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Speaker 3: to pay the ironclad price of a certain player, then

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Speaker 3: you better be betting on Okay, well, he can be

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Speaker 3: a league winner in this situation if things pan out.

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Speaker 3: So I'm less in terms of risk averse when it

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Speaker 3: comes to betting on a player that I think can

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Speaker 3: players put up median average seasons that you can use

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Speaker 3: you cycle through different players throughout your lineup, but it's

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Speaker 3: just a couple every year. It's oh, it was the

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Speaker 3: JSN season, it was the mccaffreyes. He's like, if you

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Speaker 3: they were available in that round two, round three, a

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Speaker 3: lot of talented players. But if you end up picking

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Speaker 3: and taking enough shots on the right guys with the

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Speaker 3: high end outcomes, well then no one's gonna remember the

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Speaker 3: bus that you drafted along the way. As long as

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Speaker 1: And look, McCaffrey is a great example, right, that was

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Speaker 1: players later on. So let's get off on the right

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Speaker 1: to target now, Chrystal Lave I'll be honest, last year,

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Speaker 1: Tara was a player that I was not targeting. I

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Speaker 1: being better than you gonna possibly fathom. Right, last year

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Speaker 1: he finished this wide receiver six at one hundred receptions,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you you nailed all of the concerns there.

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Speaker 2: I love you, know, And here's a good thing. We

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Speaker 1: You're right, but yeah, but I gotta take the l

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how many Tyler Shuck Truthers there

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Speaker 2: I want to be all in it's a make or break, right,

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Speaker 2: because I like to compare this situation to the one

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Speaker 2: because there's a little bit of shades of that.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Bo Nicks and Tyler Schuck are different quarterbacks, right,

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Speaker 2: he took Courtland Sutton along with him to the promised

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Speaker 2: I was expecting a lot more from Clereland Sutton, and

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Speaker 2: that technically could be the path with Chris o'lave. But

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Speaker 2: Chris Olave is still the wide receiver one. We should

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Speaker 2: Shuck in his second year in an offense that is

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Speaker 2: not going to ever be pass low. Kellen Moore loves

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Speaker 2: so there's volume to be had. They had no existing

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Speaker 1: Well, we're going to talk about a wide receiver that's

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see what Andrews take is on

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Speaker 1: this because one of his risk reward targets is Rushi Rice.

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Speaker 1: So you have in the expert consensus right now in

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Speaker 1: You can see it for yourselves. Chrys o lave Wide

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Speaker 1: Walk me through your take on Rushi Rice, which is

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Speaker 1: well documented. How do I put this issues, concerns off

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Speaker 1: walk me through why you still think Rice is worth

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Speaker 3: So breaking down the best Kate scenario for Rashi Rice. Again,

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Speaker 3: you said productive, but it's not just productive, it's top

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Speaker 3: finishing as the wide receiver one overall traditionally the number

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Speaker 3: one receiver in terms of fantasy scoring. Has also led

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Speaker 3: the case because Demante Adams basically broke all the red

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Speaker 3: In his first year there, Rushie Rice was second in

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Speaker 3: Like I said, twelve, highest target share, top five target

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Speaker 3: are Worthy was banged up, so the Chiefs offense turned

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Speaker 3: a lot of fantasy managers that took the risk on

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Speaker 3: So that's the upside case for Rushie Rice. The risk

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Speaker 3: you kind of outlined. He's only played twelve games since

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Speaker 3: and I do think that in the back of my mind,

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Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator is Eric Bieneme. It's not Matt Naggie anymore.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time, the production when Rice has

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Speaker 1: Let's go to a running back here. Devon a Chan

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, and I don't even think your opinions on

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Speaker 2: You don't check down to him. He played in Green Bay,

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Speaker 2: You're going to line him up as a receiver here.

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Speaker 2: because while they got rid of Mike McDaniel, all they

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Speaker 2: It's just the adjustment and quarterback here. They're still going

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Speaker 1: That's a solid argument for Devon chen. I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: you just bumped him up in my rankings. I think

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Speaker 1: Mahomes could come back earlier than we think, healthier than

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Speaker 3: I know Jake Silly is not on this program. We

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Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about Cake here because I think

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Speaker 3: I think there's an opportunity for us to have the.

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Speaker 4: Cake and make the cake eat it too.

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Speaker 3: Because to start the year, let's say Mahomes isn't dropping

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Speaker 3: you do. Let's lean on the run game, lean on

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Speaker 3: our defense, feed ken Walker. We paid this guy to

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Speaker 3: If we want to make a potential postseason run but

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Speaker 3: what happens when Mahomes is more effective as a passer,

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Speaker 3: The efficiency goes through the roof. Running lanes get a

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Speaker 3: ways in which ken Walker can absolutely smash expectations this year,

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Speaker 3: that two to three turn type of pick, and he's

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Speaker 3: imagine ken Walker in the Kareem Hunt roll. Like the

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Speaker 3: opportunities last year for the Chiefs. We're running back that

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Speaker 3: the ceiling with him. When Zach Sharboney missed time during

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs unless they have made some type of weird

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Speaker 3: going to be on the Chiefs. There's no one there

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Speaker 1: Look if he falls into the Kareem Hunt roll and

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Speaker 1: that has Ken Walker, and as somebody who tends to

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Speaker 1: Don't get fired doing it at work. That's my only

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Speaker 2: results are good. It's not as if he struggles. You're

433
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 2: seeing him chuck the ball and be inaccurate. That's not

434
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,879
Speaker 2: an issue when he pushes high volume, no problem, right.

435
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,720
Speaker 2: But the problem is is that the Panthers only do

436
00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 2: it when they're forced to do it. Dave Canalys is

437
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,800
Speaker 2: trying to run a very balanced attack, and sometimes we

438
00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 2: look at the Panthers' run game and don't see it

439
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 2: as super effective, but it is good enough. And their

440
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 2: defense is not fantastic, but it is good enough to

441
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,880
Speaker 2: keep things relatively close so where their games, oddly enough,

442
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,639
Speaker 2: really don't get out of hands. So while they're not

443
00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: a prolific team, they're always kind of in the mix,

444
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,879
Speaker 2: so they never abandon the run and they never really

445
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 2: have to push aggressive pass volume until they reach those

446
00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: teams like the Rams, who just force you to throw

447
00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 2: on them significantly, right. And so the problem is is

448
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,280
Speaker 2: that when they're running this very balanced attack, they're not

449
00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 2: very effective with it. They were eleventh from last in

450
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 2: plays run last season. They ran just four plays less

451
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 2: than Seattle, but for comparison, they scored less than one

452
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty more points, less than one hundred and

453
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 2: fifty points than Seattle, and Seahawks had nine hundred more

454
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 2: total yards than the Panthers. I mean, when you look

455
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Speaker 2: at Green Bay, they ran roughly the same amount of

456
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Speaker 2: plays as well. Unfortunately, the Panthers scored less than eighty

457
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 2: points and had less than six hundred yards. It's just

458
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 2: a really inefficient offense and they definitely progress forward last season.

459
00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,760
Speaker 2: They're pushing forward. But for us to really have Tederoo

460
00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 2: McMillan progress towards consistently putting up top twelve numbers, he's

461
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: gonna have to make more than the progress we saw

462
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,160
Speaker 2: last year. There's going to need to be a significant leap.

463
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Speaker 2: He had just four games last season with over two

464
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 2: hundred passing yards. So while I see improvement coming, I

465
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 2: need to see more because when I'm looking at the

466
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Speaker 2: players that are being drafted around him, right before him,

467
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 2: slightly after, there are a lot of other receivers in

468
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 2: other players at other positions that have legitimate top ten upside,

469
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 2: especially the receivers. You can find guys being drafted after

470
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: him very easily that can realistically put up potential top

471
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 2: ten numbers, you know, and things have to go right,

472
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 2: but they have the volume in their offense to be

473
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960
Speaker 2: able to do so. So that's the problem is that

474
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Speaker 2: I just don't know that he has the same level

475
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 2: of upside, so it's a safeish, safeish option. But if

476
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Speaker 2: you're looking across the board, I feel like when you

477
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Speaker 2: get to the end of your fantasy season and you're

478
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: looking back and you look at all the choices you

479
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: could have made around him, maybe that was the difference maker.

480
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: If if I had just not drafted Tteroro McMillan and

481
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: I had drafted this one person, I could have had

482
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Speaker 2: a top three performer, unfortunately, and instead I ended up

483
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: with production that was okay, but it just didn't really.

484
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Speaker 1: Do much for me. Well, two of the names we've

485
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Speaker 1: already talked about Rushi, Rice Olave right around the McMillan range,

486
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Speaker 1: Devata Smith right after who Andrew doesn't stop talking about

487
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: Divvy Frank Alright, So you've got some other Jay Flowers

488
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: who I know Bogman's a big fan of going into

489
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: this year even a little later. You know guys like

490
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: Lad McConkey and Egbuka as well, who you know play

491
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 1: in situations with better quarterbacks as well. That's also the

492
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 1: thing to think about, how prolific the quarterbacks feeding these

493
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: guys the ball can't potentially make them eric. So I

494
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Speaker 1: want to talk about one of the guys that you're

495
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 1: avoiding here. And I feel like I was thinking about

496
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: this today driving in the car to the gym this morning,

497
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 1: because I was listening a little bit on the fantasy

498
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Speaker 1: radio Stye of things on Serious and more hatred for

499
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: Trey McBride, basically, And here I come to work here

500
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: later in the afternoon, and here I am again listening

501
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 1: to more people talk bad about trade McBride, and I'm

502
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 1: I feel like we're getting to a point where the

503
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: negativity might be too much. I want you to talk

504
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 1: about why you're avoiding him. I know the other tight ends.

505
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: We talked about it, you know, just on most recent show,

506
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: how much we talked love Colston, love Hund and how

507
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 1: brock Bauers. You know, Fitz he thinks he's gonna go

508
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: through the roof this year. And I get all the

509
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: love for the other guys, but it feels like we're

510
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: getting sour on Trent bride a little too soon. I'm

511
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: still in and I feel like something's gonna happen where

512
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Speaker 1: tre McBride's going to fall to like the third or

513
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: fourth tight end, and I'm gonna end up having more

514
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: shares than I realize of him, but you see things differently.

515
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: He's a breakaway for you.

516
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: Why, well, it's not him in the tight end rankings

517
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 3: that I'm going to move again. He's my tight end too.

518
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 3: I would ran in line with ECR. It's it's about

519
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 3: the overall players that he's going around as the twenty

520
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: second player off the.

521
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Speaker 1: Overall aspect that it is the tight end. O.

522
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because I think that's really more what the

523
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: conversation is. No one, I haven't heard a sane argument

524
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Speaker 3: that's treming. Brad can't be an elite tight end. There's

525
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 3: there's no doubt about.

526
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 2: Oh.

527
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Speaker 1: I've heard I heard people talking, some smart people talking about.

528
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that, I wouldn't know that far, but

529
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Speaker 3: I would go to the point of I like a

530
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 3: lot of the other elite tight end options a lot

531
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Speaker 3: more at their respective prices, like Colston Loven is cheaper

532
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: than Trey McBride, Tyler Warren is cheaper than Trey McBride,

533
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,920
Speaker 3: Rock Bauers, I'm willing to pay up to get him

534
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: on my team and over Trey McBride as the tight

535
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Speaker 3: end one because last year it was really the perfect

536
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 3: storm for Trey mcgri the Arizona Cardinals threw the ball

537
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 3: at the highest rate in the NFL last year. He

538
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: scored eleven touchdowns after basically being unable to sniff the

539
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: end zone dating back to his college days. So last

540
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: year and I know that deebro was really high in

541
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: Trae McBride believe them, had his tight end one entering

542
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty five season. Last year was the year

543
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: to be on the trade McBride bandwagon ahead of brock Bowers.

544
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 3: Brock Bowers was mostly a bus last year because he

545
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 3: got banged up. Raiders offense was a mess. What about

546
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals. Would their offense be a mess this year?

547
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: You know, I think that's very much any range of

548
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 3: outcomes for them when they have the league's toughest schedule.

549
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 3: So I understand that there's a case to be made. Well,

550
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 3: they're trailing a much of these games. It's going to

551
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 3: be pass volume. Yeah, Trey McBride's still going to lead

552
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 3: the team in targets most likely, But I do think

553
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 3: that the Arizona Cardinals are going to try a little

554
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 3: bit more run pass balanced. They drafted a running back

555
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Speaker 3: with the third overall pick and I don't think enough

556
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 3: is being said about well. Jeremiah Love is also a

557
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 3: target out of the backfield, especially when you're vacuuming up

558
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 3: targets underneath, which is exactly where Trade McBride also operates.

559
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: I've done some studies in my early days in fantasy

560
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: where overlapping in between running backs and tight ends in

561
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 3: the passing game, it's a similar portion of the field

562
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: that they're operating, and they eat into each other. Yeah,

563
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,239
Speaker 3: they didn't throw it to the running back last year

564
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 3: because it was Bam Knight. Of course the Cardinals are

565
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: going to throw it to their running back, and of

566
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: course they're not going to run the football when they're

567
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: down to their fourth string running back. But we still

568
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: don't even know is Jakoby Brissect going to be the

569
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: starter week one, week four? What happens when this offense

570
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: turns over to Carson Beck? Are we happy and excited

571
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: to play Trey McBride. I just get concerned that he's

572
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: not going to be the difference maker he was last

573
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: year at tight end versus this year, even if he

574
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: is still a top five tight end. Can I find

575
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 3: that difference maker elsewhere in my draft? A little bit later, instead.

576
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: I mean, he's going around a lot of really strong

577
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: running backs and wide receivers, especially with builds this year, man,

578
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 3: I want to sometimes leave my drafts with two running

579
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 3: backs in the first three rounds, and Trey McBride doesn't

580
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: really fit that type of build for me. Factor in

581
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, what if he takes a step in year

582
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: three Michael Wilson, He had a lots of big games

583
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: of Harrison was injured last year, Big Bride played five

584
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 3: games With both those guys helping the lineup, his yards

585
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 3: dropped from ninety yards per game to sixty five.

586
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Speaker 1: That's the one that people point out, and they point

587
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: out the regression potentially too with Jeremiah Low. There's a

588
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: lot of reasons to think like it can't be as

589
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: good for Trey McBride. But I do feel like there's

590
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,959
Speaker 1: a groundswell in the fantasy nerd community out there right

591
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: now where they're keeping all this negativity on Trey McBride,

592
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: and this ADP is going to move. I'm with you, though,

593
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: if it's between aj Brown, Amari and Hampton and Trey McBride,

594
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 1: Trey McBride is a distant third for me of those

595
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 1: three and that's basically right now the early ECR consensus

596
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: between those three players, so that I'm on board with

597
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: it for sure. I'm just warning everybody out there watch

598
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: that stock over the next two months of Trey McBride

599
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: because Marvin Harrison May Michael Wilson did for a short

600
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 1: period of time. Trey McBride is great and he's still

601
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: the best option they have until proven otherwise in my opinion.

602
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there. Let's talk about another

603
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: guy here, Jalen Waddle, who is funny on yesterday's show,

604
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: a lot of praise from d and from Pa fitz

605
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Morris about Jayalen Wattle. I'm still a little skeptical, Tara,

606
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 1: talk to me about your take on right now on

607
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: to Jalen Warren because Jayleen Wattle, excuse me, because Wattle

608
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: is a guy that has the opportunity and the talent.

609
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: We've seen him flash it early in his career where

610
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: he's catching the hundred balls in the season. The last

611
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: couple of years have been marred by injury. Performance hasn't

612
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: been quite what we expected, and now he's, you know,

613
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: finding himself in a Denver Bronco situation where it's a

614
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: play defense, control the ball kind of feeling. I mean,

615
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: maybe they're going to open things up a little bit

616
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: more potentially. Do you see Wattle being a guy that

617
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: you want to stay away from.

618
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, unfortunately I want no piece of it. It's hard

619
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 2: for me, and I love Wattle. I had high hopes

620
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: for the future of Wattle in Miami with the exit

621
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: of Tyreek Hill, but unfortunately I just can't get there

622
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: with Denver. I mean I alluded it to a little

623
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: bit earlier when I talked about the Denver offense in

624
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton. I mean, it was a mess last season.

625
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 2: It's fantastic stick for their team. So no offense, they

626
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: made great moves. They have one of the deepest receiving

627
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: corps in the league. So while you might not look

628
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: at it and say they don't you know, they don't

629
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 2: have a PUKA, they don't have a JSN. They're solid

630
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 2: all across the board, five deep really in that offense,

631
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 2: maybe even a little bit more. And it's tough for

632
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 2: me to make that investment because Wattle's ADP might not

633
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 2: seem like it's very egregious because it's lower than where

634
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 2: we've had to draft him in the past, but it's

635
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 2: aggressive for a guy who on a weekly basis probably

636
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 2: is not going to be putting up consistent wide receiver

637
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: one and maybe not even wide receiver two numbers because

638
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 2: of the way that they spread the ball around and

639
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: there's not much room for them to really push the

640
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: offense for it in terms of pass volume because they

641
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: throw a significant amount. The problem is is that they

642
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: also do throw significantly to the running back position. That's

643
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: what makes R. J. Harvey a viable option, even though

644
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: he's sharing that backfield with JK. Dobbins. And just because

645
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Speaker 2: Wattle is there, it does not mean that all of

646
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Speaker 2: these other receivers are going away. We're talking Courtland Sutton.

647
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: We've got Troy Franklin, who you might say as well,

648
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: he's going to take a back seat and whatnot. Again,

649
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: that Bill, we didn't expect him to take that surge

650
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: to where through several portions of the season he was

651
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: operating at times over Courtland Sutton as the wide receiver one.

652
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: They have Pat Bryant, who showed promise last year. Sean

653
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: Payton loves to throw Marvin Mims in as a little

654
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: mix in, gimmicky type of deal there. So they're very deep,

655
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: and I don't see where there's going to be a

656
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: big consolidation of one main target. The ball is going

657
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 2: to be spread around. They like to be able to adjust,

658
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 2: not be predictable, not be coverage dependent. And it's sad

659
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: because again we're talking about a team that pushed high volume.

660
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: They threw the ball over six hundred times last year, right,

661
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: But unfortunately we're running it back with the same crew

662
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: plus Jalen Waddle, right, and for reverence, that's more than

663
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: the rams through last season. Quite frankly, so how much

664
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 2: higher can we go? And you mentioned it, they've got

665
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: an excellent defense. They don't have to push a ton

666
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: of volume, even for the aggressive amount that they do, right,

667
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: So if he was cheaper, maybe we could do this,

668
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: because it's not like a complete, like no no deal

669
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: kind of situation. But it feels a little aggressive for me. Again,

670
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: when we're looking at players being drafted around him. Is

671
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: there an actual reality where Wattle is going to be

672
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: a target hog one hundred and forty kind of targets

673
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: in that offense, in that receiving court. It's tough to buy.

674
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Speaker 1: I get it. He's sandwiched in between a Mechagg Buka

675
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: and Davante Adams right now in the early ECR. Luther

676
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: Burdens also around there is gonna be a very trendy

677
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: pick Mike Evans. But I think about Evans, Adams and Eggbuca,

678
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: and I think about the touchdown equity that those potential

679
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: wide receivers bring you, and that being a huge tiebreaker

680
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: for me, especially if you're playing in a half PPR

681
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: league as supposed to a full BPR. To me, I

682
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: look at that grouping and Wattle is kind of a

683
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: tough sell in those formats there, So it's gonna be

684
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see if that ADP does hold here for him.

685
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: And then if you wait around later, you're looking at

686
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: the Christian Watson's, the DJ Mooores of the world, even

687
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: an Alec Pierce at that stage two, depending on his health.

688
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I think Waddle right now

689
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: to me is a guy that is is a tough

690
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: sell as ADP. I like the disunt. I wish it

691
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: was just a little bit cheaper than it is. Speaking

692
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: of wide receivers, Malik Neighbors another guy that we know

693
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: what the upside is, Andrew. The upside from Malik Neighbors

694
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: is obviously a top five wide receiver. He's got that

695
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: kind of talent. We didn't really get the full effect

696
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: of Malik Neighbors with Jackson Dark for a very long

697
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 1: period of time last year. We'd love to see it,

698
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: but it does feel like it could take a little

699
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: bit of a while here for Malik Neighbors to be

700
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: healthy for everything to really gel for him. And I

701
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: just wonder if the ADP supports that risk right now

702
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: or how long you might have to wait to see

703
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: the results.

704
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: Milik Neighbors has a chance to start the year on

705
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: the pup list, so that can mean that he misses

706
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: anywhere between four to six weeks. And this is a

707
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: big deal because at the start of the year, when

708
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: you're drafting him as a round three or round four selection,

709
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: that's a starter for you, and now you're taking zeros

710
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: in that spot. I also think that Matt n Aggie

711
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 3: coming in as the new offensive coordinator.

712
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Speaker 4: Joe.

713
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: We've talked about Matt and Aggie on the tailgate and

714
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 3: it's the only reason why we're I'm not buying more

715
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: into the Giants as Oh, this team could go from

716
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: worse to first in the division. It's because, yeah, Matt

717
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 3: n Aggie, we're not really super incouraged by him calling

718
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: the place here, so maybe he's not as hyper fixated

719
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 3: on getting the ball to Leak Neighbors as a number

720
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 3: one target every single time that Jackson Dark drops back

721
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Speaker 3: to throw. So given the timing as acl given just

722
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: the general pessimism that John Harbaugh has kind of alluded

723
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: to anytime he refers to the Leak Neighbors, to me,

724
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: this just seems like red flags. Understand why he's going

725
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: where he's going, because oh, Molak Neighbors. What if he's healthy,

726
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: But I just don't think he is going to be.

727
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be a while to we see

728
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: that guy. So for me, he is a break in

729
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 3: the make or break conversation.

730
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the ADP makes him that right now. Currently, again,

731
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: when it's hard to take a guy as a top

732
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: twenty wide receiver who's going to miss a third of

733
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: the season potentially, like that's just too much for me,

734
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: it's too rich for me. And frankly, there's a little

735
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: bit of New York bias in there too, because you're

736
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Speaker 1: talking about an organization of the New York Giants. It's

737
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: New York it got the big time head coach now,

738
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Speaker 1: Like there's just so much attention and so much hopium

739
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: that you're kind of alluding to that I think is

740
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: if this was a different situation, like if this was

741
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: in Tennessee or something like that, I don't think it'd

742
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: be nearly the excitement from Malik Davis returning to glory

743
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: and having this kind of adp this quickly, So we'll

744
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: see how that shakes up in the months ahead. Let's

745
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: get to some later round targets too, some guys that

746
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: have some boomer bus potential, and I want to get

747
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: Tara and Andrews take on some of these players, so

748
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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna throw a name out. You give

781
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: me your take, Tara. Let's start with aforementioned Marvin Harrison Junior.

782
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: We know the potential, we know the pedigree, the lineage,

783
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. We haven't seen it yet after

784
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: two years at the NFL level. Is the ADP right

785
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: for the boom or bust investment? Or are you staying

786
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: away once again in twenty twenty six until your eyes

787
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: can actually see it happen in reality?

788
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: The ADP is finally right. I have stayed away and

789
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: stayed away proudly, and finally we can jump back in here.

790
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: It's all good. Now. We are drafting this man as

791
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: a low end wide receiver three, and honestly, I don't

792
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: think there's any kind of hype that anyone will ever

793
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 2: have that'll raise it up to the point where're drafting

794
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: him as a wide receiver. Two. I mean Andrew already

795
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 2: laid out like all of the risks. Thank you there

796
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: for everything that is going on with the changes there

797
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 2: in Arizona. The difference for me is, I do love

798
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett, right, if I could guarantee a lovel of love,

799
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: if I could guarantee that he was starting the entire season,

800
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: I would probably draft the entire offense with reckless abandon

801
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: because I know that the schedule is brutal and that

802
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 2: benefits us because that would mean Jacoby Brissett checking the

803
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: ball forty plus times a game, right, But we do

804
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: have the risk unfortunately, but Carson Beck is going to

805
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 2: come in there. But at the end of the day,

806
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Jr. Has shown that between him and Michael Wilson,

807
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: he is the alpha on the offense. McBride is the

808
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: first look, but we could see some shifts into focusing

809
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: on and trying to help Marvin Harrison Junior make that leap.

810
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: For what it's worth, in the little slim sample size

811
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: that he was with Jacoby Brissett, he did show promise

812
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: and saw twenty two targets and two touchdowns against solid defenses.

813
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: So I like the potential here for him based off

814
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 2: a couple of solid starts that he had last season

815
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: with Brissett. I think it's worth the risk at the ADP.

816
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I gotta say, just looking at Michael Wilson's game log too,

817
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: where you're talking about Harrison. What a finish to that

818
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: season last year with Michael Wilson where he had was

819
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: it the six touchdowns in his last five games from

820
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: Week fourteen on?

821
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 4: I mean over for a thousand yards?

822
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: Right?

823
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: Jacobysset we trusty seriously man, and that people talking about

824
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: Carson Beck was like, no, no, no, no, I don't

825
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: need to see Carson Beck exactly that. I saw it

826
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: already in numerous places. Not impressed. Okay, I saw it

827
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: in college. Andrew just real quick for me, Hirison, is

828
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: that a guy for you? You're buying it on too,

829
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: because now he's gotten so cheap it's hard not to

830
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: be curious.

831
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 3: I think that he's a great player for this conversation

832
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 3: about make or break because he feels like a guy

833
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 3: that Okay, yeah, you're a three leap, but to me,

834
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 3: it's went in doubt. Don't draft Cardinals players. That's kind

835
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: of like one of my monitors for draft this year

836
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: is if I'm like on the fence about a cardinal

837
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 3: or somebody else, I feel like I'm gonna end up

838
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: going in the other direction.

839
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna play from behind a lot of losses.

840
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: I'm just not that the fifty dropbacks per game that

841
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 3: we saw last year is just gonna it's gonna repeat.

842
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's gonna happen two years in

843
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: a row.

844
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: All Right, what about Bachelle Tuton. Let's talk about him,

845
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: because that's been a hot button topic here. As the

846
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,359
Speaker 1: subburb grows warmer here in New Jersey where I am,

847
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm starting to warm to the idea of base Schell

848
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: Tuton actually being a good investment. I don't want the

849
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: ADP to rise any further than it is, but I

850
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: feel like that is wishful thinking. So Andrew, let's talk

851
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 1: about Tuton, who you know, Juncture right now is kind

852
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: of like a fringy RB two slash RB three. I

853
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: love him there, I just don't think he's gonna stay

854
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: there by the time we get to real make or

855
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: break season. What do you think.

856
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 3: I think you'll probably go up a little bit. But

857
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with that. I think that he has

858
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: a potential top fifteen back end fantasy RB one type

859
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: of ceiling. The best case scenario with him is he

860
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 3: just takes over this backfield as the clear cut RB

861
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: one and ce Rod is just a jack whether it's

862
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 3: a real life Jag, whether it's a Jacksonville Jaguar. I

863
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: just am not impressed by Chris Rodriguez and what he

864
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: did last year. Yes, he grinded between the tackles, had

865
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 3: a high success rate, had some goal line opportunities, but

866
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 3: this guy was a complete afterthought when Brian Robinson was

867
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 3: on the Washington Commanders. Brian Robinson is the other super

868
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 3: Jag running back. So for me, it's he has clearly

869
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: the most upside in this backfield. I think that he

870
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: is so explosive and he didn't get the chance to

871
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 3: really showcase that last year, but I know it's part

872
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: of his toolkit. Saw him in person, me and Deebrow

873
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: at the combine. I saw Bachelle Tuton run that is fast.

874
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 3: He can rip off some big plays and he did

875
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: it all at Virginia Tech. So I think Bachell Twotant

876
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 3: to me is a high upside pick. It's always impossible

877
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,919
Speaker 3: that the downside is that he's a former Day three

878
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: pick and he's not ready for prime time.

879
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 4: He's not going to see the line.

880
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: Cheff carries and Chris Rodriguez is Liam Cohen's boy and

881
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 3: he continues to work in every single week. They also

882
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: sprinkling lequent Allen on passing downs and it is a

883
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: three week committee and that's how Bachelle Tutont doesn't fire.

884
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 3: But the ceiling case for him at the price I'm in.

885
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: Tarah, would you take the really exciting, breakaway, speedy potential

886
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: of Tuton or the guy going right ahead of him,

887
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: David Montgomery, who could be the opposite end of that,

888
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: which is the ground and pound. Gave me the ball

889
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,840
Speaker 1: with the goal line. You know, he'll get his yards,

890
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: he'll get his touchdowns, it's not going to be as exciting.

891
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: Which way would you go? Just out of curiosity?

892
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, my preference is I get the whole concern about

893
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: Chris Rodriguez. I think it's a little overblown because yeah,

894
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: you know, coaching connection whatnot. But at the end of

895
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 2: the day, bachel tutan existed last year and one of

896
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: the things that he was really spectacular at was he

897
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: was actually better in terms of efficiency in the red

898
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: zone than Travis Etn showed a lot of promise and

899
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: good usage in there. So the fact that he got

900
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: that right off the bat is a rookie, I think

901
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 2: for underestimating the built in trust that Liam Cohen already

902
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: has with Bachiel Tudents. So that's not just going away.

903
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: So I would lean towards Tudent on that. I'm with

904
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: Andrew on that one.

905
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: Let's talk about another running back here, maybe one of

906
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: the most valuable potential handcuffs or secondary running back investments

907
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: you can make Blake Korum why because you saw last

908
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: year he could be a part of the offense and

909
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: exist with Kyen Williams and be very productive. Certainly from

910
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: the touchdown standpoint too. He had six touchdowns last year,

911
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: all of which came after the eight week by so

912
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: clearly something was different there with him in terms of

913
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: getting that touchdown workload, working himself, and he has some

914
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: splash games two against Arizona twelve one twenty eight. In

915
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: that game against Carolina two seven for eighty one with

916
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So Blake Korm I understand, you know, if

917
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: if he doesn't get as much work and Karen Williams

918
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: has another spectacular season that kind of pushes him to

919
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,959
Speaker 1: the side a little bit. Korm kind of just sits

920
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: there and collects a little bit of dust and it

921
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: becomes a difficult start. But if you have to break

922
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: open that glass, Korm is certainly appealing. Tara, talk to

923
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: me about Blake Orm and twenty twenty six investments.

924
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned that by week and the clear shift.

925
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: I think it was very intentional, and I think when

926
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: we talk about Blake Korum, we need to remember it's

927
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: not an insult to Kyen Williams. We're not saying someone's

928
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: come at a steal his job, right. I think a

929
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 2: lot of times when you know, you hype up Blake Koram,

930
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: it gets, you know, get a little defensive sometimes about

931
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: Blake about Karen Williams. Right, But looking at what they

932
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 2: did in the back half of the season, it was

933
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: very successful. They were able to reduce that workload on

934
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 2: Kien Williams, which was aggressive. Like if we look back

935
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: to the stats from twenty twenty four, it was egregious.

936
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 2: The man was on the field upwards of ninety percent

937
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: of snaps. Often that's not effective you can't do that

938
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: to a running back year after year. But unfortunately, you know,

939
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh likes to have comfort with specific running backs,

940
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: and it took him a second to get that with

941
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 2: Blake Koram. But in the back half, we saw that

942
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: trust had clearly grown and he had earned the right

943
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: to be a very critical part of the Rams offense.

944
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: That we saw a very clear shift where Korum was

945
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: getting anywhere from seven to fourteen carries a game. He

946
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: was earning red zone work, goal line touches. It was

947
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: not just garbage time. It was very intentional. But the

948
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: thing is is that the RAMS offense is just so

949
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: straight up good. When they're operating at the best level

950
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: that they have. It affords them the ability to give

951
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: us two relevant fantasy assets at running back with them

952
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: splitting that workload there, and because the defenses have to

953
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: account for that prolific pass game, it means that the

954
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 2: running backs can be highly efficient. They don't need fifteen

955
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: plus carries, they need twelve in order to get eighty

956
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown here. So just baseline, he has

957
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: usability on a week to week basis, and if something

958
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: were to happen to hire in terms of an injury.

959
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: I mean, my god, the upside would be top five

960
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: on a weekly basis.

961
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other guy, Andrew who's in this running back

962
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: kind of a limbo scenario maybe is RJ. Harvey, who

963
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: I know a lot of us had hopes for Last year. JK.

964
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: Dobbins kind of stunted that growth a little bit. Then

965
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: he got hurt and we thought, okay, a little RJ.

966
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: Harvey time there, and it didn't quite I think, live

967
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: up to some of our expectations. Maybe the expectations were

968
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: too much. Then they went out and drafted Joanah Coleman too,

969
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: So now it's a very messy backfield here. I get

970
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,959
Speaker 1: that you're getting a big discount r J. Harvey. He's

971
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: going in that same range as Blake korham manong guy,

972
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: same in that range that like RB thirty ish kind

973
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: of realm. What's the upside for Harvey this year in

974
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: the scenario he's in.

975
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think as high as those guys when

976
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: it comes down to the contingent injuries, because I think

977
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: that's with those two players you're looking at. Swift goes down,

978
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: mano guy. Can he be the RB one? Blake Korm

979
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 3: I think has the highest ceiling out of all three

980
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 3: of these players.

981
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: But R J.

982
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 3: Harvey to me, I think I feel like she's probably

983
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: a little bit better about what his standalone role is.

984
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: A lot of Blake Korm's games last year again super explosive.

985
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 3: I like Blake Corm a lot, but a lot of

986
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,280
Speaker 3: those game in games where the Rams have these massive

987
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 3: leads and they're a good team, those are gonna be opportunities.

988
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: But easier said than done to project, Oh, they're going

989
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: to kill this team this week. We talked about on

990
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 3: the Betting Pro Show all the time, Joe, Oh, this

991
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: is gonna be a blow It's not a blow. Oh,

992
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: this game's gonna be close, ends up being a blowout.

993
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 3: Whereas Harvey, I think that his receiving ability is sticky.

994
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: I think that what he showcased last year, he caught

995
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: fifty six pass as a rookie running back, scored twelve touchdowns.

996
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 4: It's like pretty good.

997
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: Like usually these guys get way over hyped and are

998
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 3: way overdrafted, but because they brought back Dobbins, because they

999
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 3: drafted Jonah Coleman, that's has kind of kept his price

1000
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 3: in check. Where Okay he's going outside of the top thirty

1001
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: running backs for a rookie running back that led all

1002
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 3: rookie in this highly decorated rookie running back class. He

1003
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: had the most receiving production out of all of them.

1004
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 3: He had a twenty two percent target rate perrout run

1005
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: last year that ranked top ten among running backs.

1006
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 4: So I'm okay with.

1007
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: Yes, the vision last year as a rusher was not there,

1008
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: but he still was RB thirteen Fantasy Game from weeks

1009
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 3: eleventh through eighteen with JK.

1010
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 4: Dobbins out.

1011
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: I think that he could grow as a better rusher

1012
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: in between the tackles in his second season with some

1013
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: more experience on resbuilt as an NFL running back. I

1014
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: think that the fact that he's already done the hard

1015
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: stuff right is get red zone work and receiving ability

1016
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: that's usually what we're talking about with these rookie running backs.

1017
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: Is okay, if he takes a leap as a receiver

1018
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: this year, Okay, if he sees more red zone opportunities.

1019
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 3: Harvey already did that. So if he can kind of

1020
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 3: like just get the easy part done, It's like, hey, man,

1021
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 3: just pick up the first down, rip off a couple

1022
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 3: more explosive rushes, then I could.

1023
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 4: See him beating his ADP.

1024
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 3: But back to the original point about the contingent injury

1025
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 3: upside JK. Dobbins, we know he's not built for seventeen games.

1026
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: Even if Dobbins does go down, you see a little

1027
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: bit of a bump for Harvey. I would presume that

1028
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: Jonah Coleman would also still be involved there. So that

1029
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: is one thing that kind of does damper RJ. Harvey's

1030
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: like true ceiling is that I don't think there's a

1031
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 3: scenario where he really truly takes over the back field

1032
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 3: unless Joonah Coleman just can't straight play right.

1033
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 4: If he's just like a total bus and he.

1034
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: Has an expiration date every Serio season like that, we

1035
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: know that's gonna happen at some point. But again, that

1036
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 1: puts you in that weird Melik Neighbor's conversation too, where

1037
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: it's like, how useful is this player going to be

1038
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of the season. And Harvey look

1039
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: to his credit after the buy in Week twelve, the

1040
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: touchdowns came, right, he had four straight games with a

1041
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: touchdown after that, and then Week seventeen and eighteen. Obviously

1042
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,399
Speaker 1: you know, resting guys up a little bit heading into

1043
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but still, like you know, there were certainly

1044
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: moments to be excited about R. J. Harvey. And then

1045
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: I think when Coleman came into the mix, Yes, sure

1046
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: he kind of fits more the mold of taking the

1047
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: torch away eventually from JK. Dobbins. But at the same time,

1048
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: how significant is that split? And then when you have

1049
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: three guys to worry about as opposed to just the two,

1050
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: it gets a little bit muddier there. I think he

1051
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: is a where he's going. I'm intrigued, but I think

1052
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: it's the menang guys and someone's other and Blake Korms

1053
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit more interested in just because of

1054
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: what I see for them potentially going forward. Let's talk

1055
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: about two more players here. Let's talk about Kyle Pitts,

1056
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: who in an age of tight end that's renaissance at

1057
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: the position. Kyle Pits had a really nice bounce back season,

1058
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: but nobody cared. I feel like nobody cares about a Terra.

1059
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: Nobody's talking about Kyle Pitts anymore. And I understand that

1060
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: because the first year was brilliant. He bucked all the

1061
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: trends you could have possibly asked for had that big

1062
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 1: first season, right whe everyone said, well, touchdowns will come eventually,

1063
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: we'll figure that out as we wait. But last year

1064
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: the guy went out there. I think FITZI and myself

1065
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: were the only two people who were in on Kyle

1066
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: Pitts last year. Eighty eight receptions, nine hundred and twenty

1067
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: eight yards, five touchdowns for him, They're still lacking. I

1068
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: think of that wide receiver group once you get out

1069
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: of Drake London, and it just feels like Kevin Sefanski

1070
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: certainly should have a plan at least for Kyle Pitts

1071
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: to work more in the slot, work more as a

1072
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: receiver too, because he's such a mismatch with his size

1073
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: and the arm length that he has over potential defensive

1074
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: backs and potential linebackers as well. So let's talk about

1075
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: the forgotten man at tight end. Sure there's risk, but

1076
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: what about the upside of Kyle Pitts.

1077
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like he's the forgotten man because the

1078
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 2: people that rostered him last year will not go to

1079
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: bat for him because it wasn't a great experience unfortunately

1080
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: for the vast majority of the year, which was why

1081
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: you can finish as an overall tight end too and

1082
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: still be a make or break player. Because it was

1083
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: a shaky season. Kirk Cousins was clearly the catalyst for

1084
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: the success first year, but unfortunately Cousins is gone when

1085
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 2: you're looking at what he did in the first port,

1086
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 2: not even first portion like the first one through eleven

1087
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: weeks when Cousins did start like one game, but for

1088
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: the most part that was Michael PENNOCKX. Over that time period,

1089
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts was, unfortunately tight end twenty one in average

1090
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: Fantasy points per game and half PPR, averaging seven point

1091
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: three Fantasy points per game. That is not what anyone

1092
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 2: signed up for. That's the equivalent of throwing out THEO

1093
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 2: Johnson and zach Ertz. That's literally what people were getting

1094
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: and that is not the price that they paid for

1095
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: with Kyle Pitts, unfortunately. But then everything ascended once we

1096
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,439
Speaker 2: got Kirk Cousins. So the worry is is looking here

1097
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: and of course there was injury situation stuff with Drake London,

1098
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: So the worry here is like how much of that

1099
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: production was real and translatable? But I think the keyword

1100
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 2: that you mentioned right there, unfortunately is Kevin Stefanski, I

1101
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 2: say fortunately, because I can't stand him on any level.

1102
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: But if there is one thing that man can do,

1103
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 2: it is target a tight end. He will throw a

1104
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: guaranteed thirty percent clip of targets two tight ends, and

1105
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: he doesn't care who it is. Right. So when you

1106
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 2: look at Kyle Pitts as a player, I feel very

1107
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: comfortable saying that with Kevin Stefanski, he will see one

1108
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: hundred plus targets and consistently see red zone bucks. And

1109
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 2: it's not going to be us hoping that there's one

1110
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: portion at the season where there's boom games. It'll be

1111
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: spread out nicely, so we'll finally get the actual comfortable

1112
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: tight end one season from Kyle Pits That makes everyone

1113
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: happy throughout the season. But it is risky, right because

1114
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 2: it's Michael Pennix into a tug of ala and we

1115
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 2: don't trust either one of those quarterbacks. No.

1116
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: I think that if you miss out on tight end

1117
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: and the big time grouping right the first six or seven,

1118
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: we have Laporta and Fan in that last grouping and

1119
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: you end up with Pitts and you don't feel great

1120
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,840
Speaker 1: about it. I think there's plenty of interesting insurance guys.

1121
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: There's the Breton Stranges and the Juan Johnson's of the world.

1122
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: Chickakonquo the other guy that would throw in there, like

1123
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with like hedging your pets

1124
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts, but if he does hit with Tua,

1125
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: you know, that could be a very good situation there,

1126
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: and I think they will be a little bit more

1127
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: aggressive offensively. Last guy to talk about here again, one

1128
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: of the I think most intriguing assets going into twenty

1129
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: twenty six. A player that finished very, very well and

1130
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: into the playoffs for the Jaguars, Parker Washington, who certainly

1131
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 1: has bust potential to if they just decide like, oh

1132
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: that was fun, now we're gonna move on. But just

1133
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,720
Speaker 1: this morning I read something about Liam Cohne talking about,

1134
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, we want to get him more of the

1135
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, maybe some Jets sweeps, maybe some

1136
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: other things. Was a really eye opening thing where it

1137
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: just feels like the more we hear out of OTA's

1138
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: and the more you hear out of the Jacksonville camp

1139
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: is that it was not a fluke for Parker Washington.

1140
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: I don't think it's too expensive Andrew to invest and

1141
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 1: be wrong on Parker Washington.

1142
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: Do you I wish I knew I am.

1143
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 3: I am throwing my hands at the wall trying to

1144
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 3: figure out what to do with these Jacksonville Jaguars wide receivers.

1145
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: When you look at the fifty one to one hundred

1146
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 3: range when we're talking about these later round picks, Parker

1147
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 3: Washington and the ECR has the highest standard deviation among

1148
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: all players not that aren't rookies. So you have the

1149
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 3: true of first round rookies between Lemon Tyson and Tate,

1150
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: where you have ranging opinions because they're rookies, and then

1151
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: Parker Washington has the widest range of this person has

1152
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: him ranked this high, this person has him ranked this

1153
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 3: low because I don't think there's a consensus on how

1154
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 3: you should rank the three Jacksonville Jaguars wide receivers. Where

1155
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 3: you have Myers, you have Brian Thomas Junior, and you

1156
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 3: have Parker Washington. It seems like everybody has stands in

1157
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: certain directions. I agree with you to the point that

1158
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: the report where I think Parker Washington will probably get

1159
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: more of the layup targets, where that's things that he

1160
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 3: gets operating from the slot it's also a lot of

1161
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,439
Speaker 3: what Travis Hunter saw before he got hurt last year.

1162
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: If you look at the splits, when Travis Hunter was

1163
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 3: helping the lineup, park Washington was not even involved at all.

1164
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 3: So does this mean that Travis Hunter is no longer

1165
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: playing wide receiver because the Jaguars have pushed back on that,

1166
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: saying that no, no, he's gonna play more on defense.

1167
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 3: But he's also gonna still play on offense the same.

1168
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 4: Type of role.

1169
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 3: So there's a scenario where Parker Washington is still operating

1170
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 3: as the third receiver in terms of routes run, in

1171
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 3: terms of usage. So, yeah, he gets a couple design

1172
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: targets here and there, but is that actually enough to

1173
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 3: warrant Oh, I can actually start this guy in my

1174
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 3: fantasy lineup when you're drafting me as a top forty

1175
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: wide receiver. He may be the number three receiver on

1176
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: his own team, which is concerning. So for me, the

1177
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 3: upside case is what we saw at the end of

1178
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: last year. However, how many of those other receivers were

1179
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 3: healthy at that point. And you know, I'm not trying

1180
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 3: to take away the credit from Parker Washington what he did.

1181
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 3: Not everybody steps up when guys get hurt like that.

1182
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 3: That is so true. There are plenty of guys where

1183
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 3: it's like it's so and so sison in DFS because

1184
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: this guy's out and then he just lays an absolute

1185
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 3: goose egg and does absolutely nothing all the time. That

1186
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 3: happens all the time. Parker Washington was not the case.

1187
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: He delivered eighty seven saving arts per game over his

1188
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 3: last four He led the team in air yard share

1189
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 3: averages every three yards per game as the primary slot option,

1190
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: two point eight yards per out run, twenty five percent

1191
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 3: target rate twenty four years old. To me, it's this

1192
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 3: guy is the embodiment of what Trevor Lawrence had in

1193
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 3: Christian Kirk. When Christian Kirk, I believe had like a

1194
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: low end fantasy wide receiver one season he signed that

1195
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 3: big contract in Jacksonville, nobody wanted him. Was like, this

1196
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 3: guy's going to be the target leader. And he stayed

1197
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 3: healthy and he had a really great season with Trevor Lawrence.

1198
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 3: So I think stylistic Parker Washington does fit a lot

1199
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 3: of what Trevor Lawrence is looking for. I am just

1200
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: concerned about what happens when everyone actually is healthy in

1201
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 3: this lineup. Like, how much more of an emphasis are

1202
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 3: they going to put on him? And so for me,

1203
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 3: it's it comes down to price with these Jaguars receivers

1204
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: and if Parker Washington is the cheapest guy. But that's

1205
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 3: kind of how I want to get my exposure. I'm

1206
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: not trying to be overconfident and live to the audience

1207
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: and say I know exactly which Jaguars receiver is going

1208
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 3: to hit this year. I don't. So for me, it's, hey,

1209
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a coward. I'll take the cheapest guy.

1210
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 3: See how pans out.

1211
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Travis Hunter situation is the one that makes

1212
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 1: it really money too. But I know he's put on

1213
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: some weight this offseason. All this stuff and conflicting reports

1214
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: of how much he'll be involved in the passing game

1215
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: and how much. I'll tell you what, for the draft

1216
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: capital investment they made in Travis Hunter, they're gonna have

1217
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: to at least give it one more shot, I think

1218
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: for him to be a two way player, because they

1219
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: moved a lot in order for his acquisition in the

1220
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: draft a couple of years ago. So what do you

1221
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: all think, which one of these players is a little

1222
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: bit too rich for your blood or the player that's

1223
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,680
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