1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Team forty seven with Clay and Buck starts now. 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: We are joined now by our friend Eric Trump. He is, 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: of course, one of President Trump's sons, a guy I've 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: known since we were both in grade school, and he's 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: doing amazing things running the Trump Organization. As you all know. 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 2: He's also got a new book out, Under Siege, My 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Family's Fight to save our Nation, and a portion of 8 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: the proceeds we'll go to Turning Point USA to help 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 2: continue Charlie Kirk's mission. Eric, thanks for making the time 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: for us. 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: It's great to be back on talk to us if. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: You would for a second here about the because we 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: have to dive into this news of the day. I 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: think it hit everybody like I don't know if it 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: was that much of a surprise given what a jerky's 16 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 2: been lately. But what's your take on the Kimmel indefinite suspension? 17 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: Listen, the guy has been a jerk, he hasn't been funny, 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 3: but honestly, I think the network uses a way to 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: get him out based on bad ratings. I mean, look 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 3: at what ratings are on ABC and NBC and CBS 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: right now, you know, relative to call some of the 22 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 3: other shows, some of even the cable shows. Right, look 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: at my wife, Look at Laura. I mean, our show 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: is getting two point six, you know, two point eight 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: million people, you know on a Saturday night, and you 26 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: look at CNN during the week, and if they can 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: pull five six, seven hundred thousand people, it's like, you know, 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: they're they're doing great for themselves, right, So it clearly 29 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: shows that the content is not working. People are no 30 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: longer amused. It's not funny to make fun of thirty 31 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: one year old kids who are getting assassinated on any soil, 32 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 3: certainly not US soil, especially somebody who is as beloved 33 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: as our friend Charlie. And I'm glad they got rid 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: of this jerk. 35 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: Eric. 36 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 5: Where were you when you found out about what happened 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 5: to Charlie Kirk last week? And what was your immediate reaction? 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 5: Because you've got young kids like he does and like 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: Buck does, and my kids are getting a little bit older. 40 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 5: But you travel around, you do a lot of public events, 41 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: so does your wife. What was your reaction when you 42 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: saw that? 43 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, guys, I hate say it was like 44 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: deja vuodah Butler, right, I mean I walked into my office, 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: my my sister came running up to me. Lard grabbed me. 46 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: She goes, you know, to Charlie shot and it looks 47 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 3: like Charlie's dead. I mean it was right after and 48 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: obviously at that point it was making its round on 49 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: social media, and you know, I uh, you know, you 50 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: look at the movement of the body and and and 51 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: you knew it was devastating. And you know me, I've 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: competed in all the shooting sports my entire life. You know, 53 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: you could you could tell it was a high power rifle. 54 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 3: I could tell instantly that was high power rifle just 55 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: by the sound of the shot, and and and my 56 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 3: heart sank. I mean, you know, Charlie was a friend. 57 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 3: I've been on the stage with him a hundred times, 58 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: as you guys have. You know, We've we've done a 59 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: lot of events together over the last you know, ten years, 60 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: and and you know, I've stood on that same stage 61 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: a thousand times myself, you know, in swing states all 62 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: across the country. And then there there were times leading 63 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: up to elections where we're doing five six events, you know, 64 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: like that a day, you know, all over every victory office, 65 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 3: every factory, every you know, standing on top of John 66 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: Deere attractors with a bull horn, and and you know, 67 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: I mean, my heart sunk a young guy who created 68 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 3: one of the greatest political movements in this country, who 69 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 3: changed the entire youth vote in the United States. And 70 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: you know, they thought they could get rid of some 71 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 3: guy's voice by using a bullet to expunge somebody's life. 72 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: And honestly, when you look at you know, one point 73 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: four million people march across London, when you see pretorious 74 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: South Africa and marches in honor of Charlie, when you 75 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: see churches full all across the country, and the days 76 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 3: that follow, you know, they only cemented his legacy. They 77 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 3: didn't expunge his legacy. They cemented his legacy. And you know, 78 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: and Charlie, Charlie lives on. And you know, we can 79 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: never leave that stage, guys, I will never ever ever 80 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: get off that stage. And I think he was a 81 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 3: great inspiration for all. 82 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: Well he is and certainly your father continues to be. 83 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 2: And that moment you mentioned, Butler where fortunately a very 84 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: different outcome there for that day with respect to your father, 85 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: and that he was able to pump his fist in 86 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 2: the air and tell everyone to continue to fight Eric 87 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 2: probably the most iconic single moment I think in my 88 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: life in American politics. I don't know of anything that 89 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 2: would really compete with that. That the power of that 90 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: visual that I know in your book under Siege, my 91 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: family's fight to save our nation, you get into a 92 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 2: lot of this. One of the good things, though, is 93 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: that this is the greatest political comeback and really the 94 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: most inspiring I think story of overcoming a lot of 95 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: the forces of darkness in this country just by telling 96 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: your family's story and telling about what you your brother, 97 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: your sister, you know, your dad, and what you've all 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: been through. 99 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, guys, I started working on this three years ago, 100 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: and you know, I was a guy. I ran the 101 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: whole company, so everything outside of Washington, DC and the 102 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: family really saw on my shoulders, and you know, all 103 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: of a sudden, it was impeachment one. It was impeachment two. 104 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: It was the Russia hoax. It was a dirty dossier. 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 3: I was getting called from the FBI. I hear you 106 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower, you know, 107 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: communicating directly with the Kremlin. It was obviously a total sham. 108 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 4: You know. 109 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: Then they sent every da every age after us, whether 110 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: it was New York or Washington, d C. Or Fulton County, Georgia. 111 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 3: You know the stories of all of those. I got 112 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: one hundred and twelve subpoenas. I became the most subpoenid 113 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: person in American history, you know, by these radicals. Then 114 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: they took us off of Facebook and Twitter and Instagram. 115 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 3: They took my father off the ballot in Colorado and 116 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: then and then Maine. You know, they came after us, 117 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: They came after our employees. They raided mar Lago, they 118 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: raided our homes. I mean, it was non stop siege. 119 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: They wanted to bankrupt us, they wanted to see us gone, 120 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: They wanted to take away our voice. They wanted the 121 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: dozens of gag orders we all had, and these these 122 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,119 Speaker 3: nonsense cases, all of which we won, and the vast 123 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: majority of them fell on my shoulders because again, they 124 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: came after the company based on the fact that my 125 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: father had constitutional protections, and you know, and we beat 126 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: these guys. We beat them back at every single instance. 127 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: And and so I started writing this book under siege 128 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: because that's what they wanted to do. And then, you know, 129 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: I had my two kids on my lap. When when 130 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 3: Butler came around and you know, watched my father's head 131 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: almost get blown off while having a you know, five 132 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 3: and seven year old sitting on my lap, four and 133 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: six year old actually at that time sitting on my lap, 134 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: I mean in high definition TV, and you know, it's 135 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: you know, and then obviously I saw them trying to 136 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 3: do it again, and you know, with Tom at the 137 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 3: golf course. And then I saw what happened to Charlie. 138 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: And that's what they wanted, guys. They wanted our voices gone, 139 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 3: they wanted our movement gone. They wanted my father gone. 140 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 3: They wanted me off that stage. They wanted Don off 141 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: that stage. They sure as hell don't let you, guys, 142 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 3: for for everything you stand for and how principal the 143 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: two of you guys have been. And that's what Underseage 144 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: is is about. It's about all the behind the scenes 145 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: stories of how they tried to just decimate us, the 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 3: corruption of government, and frankly and thank god, how we won, 147 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 3: how we triumphed in something that was such an impossible 148 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, endless fight that went on. 149 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: For one thing I want to ask Eric, is Clay 150 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 2: told me this from me? I refused to read the 151 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: Snake Tapper book, because I just felt like it was trying. 152 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: You know, he's the arsonist who's then calling the fire department, right, 153 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: It just felt too But one interesting revelation from the book, 154 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 2: and Clay read the whole book, So I appreciate. 155 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 5: That I did it so everybody else. 156 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: I didn't have to do it. 157 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 2: He jumped on that hand grenade. For the rest of us. 158 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: We appreciated that one. But I uh that that Biden 159 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: was behind closed doors constantly with glee in his eyes 160 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 2: talking about how your dad was going to go to prison. 161 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Does that surprise you at all? Like did you think 162 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: that there was still some sense of fair play in 163 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: that Biden White House but then when that came out? 164 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: Or or did you know that that was that? That 165 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: really the whole time they wanted to lock your dad 166 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: in a cell? 167 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: Guys. I was the one when they rated mar Laga. 168 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: Who's shouting on TV? And I you think the FBI 169 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: raided mar A Lago without the explicit permission of the 170 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: President of the United States, Like, give me a freaking break. 171 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: And by the way, the other interesting thing about Jake Capper. 172 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: Laura was on a show. She was on CA She goes, listen, 173 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: he everybody realizes this guy doesn't have his mental faculties. 174 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: And he starts screaming at her on the show, how 175 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: are you the person to diagnose, you know, his his cogibilities. 176 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: Don't you think you're offending children with stutters around the country? 177 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: And Laura, I mean she would not put up with 178 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: a nonsense. She fought right back. And then sure enough, 179 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: you know, you look at the title and you can 180 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: maybe remind me of the exact title. It was like, 181 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 3: you know, a Biden's you know, a cognitive decline and 182 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 3: the cover up by the mainstream media sitting there saying 183 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: the irony of this, when when six months ago he 184 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: actually called my wife to apologize, like, you know, the 185 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: irony of this when you're sitting there, you know, yelling 186 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 3: at Laura Trump for saying that we all realize everybody 187 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: in this country realizes that the guy's not exactly the sharpest. 188 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: Tool in the He said Laura was making fun of 189 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: his stutter. 190 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is just insane. 191 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it screamed at her for for quote unquote 192 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 3: diagnosing Biden and not having a PhD. I mean, give me, 193 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: give me a break. And then he writes a book 194 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: about how you know, the media misled the world, and 195 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: I mean the great irony of this, but you know, 196 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: that's why, honestly, that's example nine and twenty of why 197 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: people detest the mainstream media in this country and why 198 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: honestly independent voices like yours, you know, are moving the needle, 199 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: and why no one watches CBS, and why you know, 200 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: people like Jimmy Kimmell are getting fired and and you know. 201 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 5: So on Under Siege is the book My Family's Fight 202 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 5: to Save our Nation. We're talking with Eric Trump. You 203 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 5: are a business guy. You're traveling all over the world 204 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: doing deals. And one place that I think is emblematic 205 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,479 Speaker 5: of how much the culture has shifted is suddenly everybody 206 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 5: wants to play on your family's fantastic golf courses. Again, 207 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 5: I know that that's a good thing, but does a 208 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 5: part of you just think when these deals get done, man, 209 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 5: so many of these business people are complete and total cowards. 210 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: Your dad was right in sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen twenty. 211 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: They try to cancel him, they kick him off, and 212 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 5: then he wins the popular vote. He's now standing, you know, 213 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 5: doing toast with the King and Queen of England last night, 214 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: and all these business guys suddenly, you know, they show 215 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 5: back up and they're. 216 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: Like, oh, we always loved you. Oh let's go with 217 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: the you. 218 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 5: I mean, this is is business one of the most 219 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 5: shameless places on the planet in general, because you guys 220 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 5: are grinding for years and now everybody loves you. 221 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: But it's got to be a part of you. 222 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 5: It's got to be like, give me a break. 223 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: I got canceled guys by every bank in the country 224 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: for doing nothing wrong, only because I chose to wear 225 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 3: a Make America Great Again hat. I'm talking about golf 226 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 3: courses in upstate New York. Things that had absolutely nothing 227 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: to do with politics. Things, you know, entities that had 228 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 3: been around for twenty five years, that had been perfect customers, 229 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: and they turned us off. Capital One, the worst of 230 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: all of them, turned us off like we were dogs. 231 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they cancel three hundred accounts in the middle 232 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: of the night, and then all of a sudden, every 233 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 3: single day I get, you know, calls from the heads 234 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: of the and you would know the names of every 235 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 3: single one of them. They are the bankers on Wall 236 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 3: Street High Eric. You know, we really missed the relationship 237 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: and we'd really love to get back together. I mean, 238 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 3: if you're waiting to come over my house, I'd love 239 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 3: to take you to dinner. I'd love you to treat it. 240 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 3: You know, it'd be great if we could try and 241 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: rekindle the relationship. And I'm sitting there, guys, and I 242 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: have very little tolerance for this nonsense, you know, especially now, 243 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm over trying to, you know, hide feelings, and you know, 244 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 3: I'm not into the pageantry of this stuff. And you're 245 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: sitting there saying you dirty. Can't stay it on the radio, guys, 246 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 3: But you know, like I remember and I will not forget, 247 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: and you know it is it is. It is shameless. 248 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: Listen Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's come around in a big way. And 249 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: I actually, unimately believe he loves my father and loves 250 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: our family, and I have a nice relationship with him now. 251 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 3: But he was sitting behind me at inauguration. Was the 252 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 3: first time I've ever met him. And I'm saying, they're saying, 253 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: you're sitting behind me an inauguration. Yet in twenty twenty, 254 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: you spent four hundred million dollars against this. You put 255 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 3: four hundred and by the way, you go on Facebook 256 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 3: to try and find a polling location, you know, or 257 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 3: a voting location, a ballot, you know, and guess what, 258 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: every single one would come up for Biden. Not a 259 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: single one would come up for Trump. It's like, you know, 260 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 3: they rig the algorithms they put countly right, they turned 261 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 3: down everybody's dials, and now all of a sudden, everybody's 262 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: smiling and happy. And you know, I'm not saying that 263 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: people can't change your mind, and I think he legitimately 264 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 3: did and is legitimately on the team now. But it's 265 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: you know, sometimes it's hard to bite your tongue. 266 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Well, we really appreciate the story and also the fight 267 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: that your family has put forward for the country, and 268 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 2: it is it is a phenomenal first year in this administration. 269 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: We're not just saying this because he's your dad, not 270 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: just sitting it's Sarah, because I think I met you 271 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: when you were ten years old or something for the 272 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: first time. But this is the truth. It has been 273 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: an incredible first year and what your dat has come 274 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: through is the most amazing political battle in my lifetime. 275 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 2: I think in any of our lifetime, I don't think 276 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: anything would come close to it. And the fact that 277 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 2: you're giving a portion of the proceeds of the book 278 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: to turning Point to continue on with Charlie's legacy. I 279 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 2: think just speaks to how much you care about well, 280 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: your friend Charlie, his family, and also the mission that 281 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: he left behind. So the book is under siege, my 282 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: family's fight to save our nation. Go get your copies. Eric, 283 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: welcome anytime, my friend, Please come back soon. 284 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 3: Thanks you guy. 285 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: You're listening to Team forty seven with Clay and Buck. 286 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 5: We bring in Peter Navarro right now. Peter, you were 287 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: just talking with President Trump. I believe he's on his 288 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: way back from England. What was that conversation? Like, what 289 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 5: can you tell us about it? 290 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 4: You never talk about what we're talking about. But I 291 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 4: was delayed because of President Trump. But what I can 292 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 4: tell you is this that they are out to get us. 293 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: And the new book I've got I went to prison 294 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: so you won't have to is all about how not 295 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: only did they come after me, they came after President Trump, 296 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 4: they came after Steve Bannon. They targeted everybody I served 297 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 4: with in the White House in some manner with these 298 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: tools of law fare. And when I was in prison 299 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: for four months, for defending the Constitution. I had the 300 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: discipline to do a daily journal talk about these things, 301 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: and I got this book out because if we don't 302 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 4: hold these people accountable, they're going to just keep doing it. 303 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 4: Everybody I served with in the White House the first 304 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: termam I was there for all four years, got targeted 305 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,839 Speaker 4: by the left in some way. The easiest thing that 306 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 4: would happen is they'd have to pay hundreds of thousands 307 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 4: of dollars or millions of dollars in legal fees. That's 308 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 4: the That's the best they could do serve in their country. 309 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 4: The worst you could do is what just fringing happened 310 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 4: with my brother Charlie Kirk taking a bullet by an assassin, 311 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: and then it then they four times they tried to 312 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: put President Trump in prison, two times they tried to 313 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: kill him, Bannon myself in prison, they Mike Flynn, Woody Giuliani. 314 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: So this is not a good time for this Republic. 315 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: But we're fighting back, sir, And that's why I wrote 316 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: I went to prison so you won't have to. And 317 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: by the way, I don't know if you saw the 318 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 4: speech I gave at the Republican National Convention, but that 319 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 4: speech was given the night of the day I actually 320 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: got out of prison, and it's a wake up call. 321 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: So I hope your listeners and viewers will pay attention 322 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: to this case. We can't let them get power backed. 323 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: They will keep doing this again until we hold them accountable. 324 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 5: Peter Navarro with us. Now, we started four months in prison. 325 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 5: What was prison like? I can't imagine. It was a 326 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 5: very fun experience, but hopefully most of people will never know. 327 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: And the idea that you were there for political persecution 328 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 5: is even more bonkers. But in terms of the physical 329 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: day to day for four months is like what in 330 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 5: your experience? 331 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: Well, that's one of the stories that I went to prison, 332 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: so you won't have to you know, it's a law 333 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 4: fair story about kind of how I got in there. 334 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 4: It's a love story about how my fiance Pixie and 335 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: I were able to manage the trauma of four months 336 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 4: in prison. But then the inside there's a couple of 337 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: things going on. I mean, you see kind of day 338 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: to day life of of how for example, you know, 339 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 4: I lost twelve pounds, I got COVID twice because of 340 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 4: the of the conditions in there. You know, I saw 341 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: some some some no shortage of violence, no shortage of danger, 342 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: but no shortage of humanity as well. I mean, they're 343 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: they're they're good people in there who did bad things, 344 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: not just bad people who did bad things. And it's 345 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 4: just trying to navigate your way through that is a test, 346 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 4: the test of who you are and what you stand for. 347 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: And there's a funny story the beginning of I went 348 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 4: to prison so you won't have to about getting me 349 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 4: getting surrounded in the yard by three guys and I'm thinking, 350 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: you know, okay, what's going to go wrong here? And 351 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: one of them starts talking about how how they liked me. 352 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 4: He's the word like they did, and uh, they say, 353 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 4: why is because I wasn't a snitch, And inside and 354 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 4: I kind of kept a straight face, but inside I'm 355 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: laughing my ass off because I'm trying to figure out 356 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 4: like the moral equivalence between me refusing a congressional subpoena 357 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 4: to defend the constitution and these guys in the classical 358 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: snitch is not not snitching on their fellow criminals. So 359 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 4: there's stuff like that. There's some significant moments. I saved 360 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: one guy's life, I arguably helping him get some emergency 361 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 4: medical care. 362 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 6: Uh. 363 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 4: And and I think one of the most interesting stories 364 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: inside the story is how I became essentially an investigative 365 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 4: reporter that uncovered a five billion dollar, billion dollar scandal 366 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: inside the Bureau of Prisons that now that I'm on 367 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 4: the outside, I've been able to actually solve. So I 368 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 4: think that that's like a unique historical moment that you'll 369 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 4: never see. And I tell that story as well. 370 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 5: But where were you, Peter on election night? And what 371 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 5: was your reaction to Trump's victory? 372 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: Oh? This is great. So I get out of prison 373 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 4: on July seventeenth, two days after my birthday. The son 374 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 4: of a bitch has kept me in prison. It wouldn't 375 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: let me out two days early for my birthday. I 376 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 4: give the speech that night, and then Pitchy and I 377 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: immediately go on the campaign trail on the on the 378 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,640 Speaker 4: Trump bus, and we were going to Georgia, We're going 379 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: to Pennsylvania, We're going to North Carolina. Working really hard. 380 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 4: We'd go I'd go to sometimes I'd be the warm up, 381 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 4: one of the warm up speakers for a Trump rally, 382 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 4: things like that. And so the night of the night 383 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 4: of the election night is like at midnight into three 384 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 4: am in the morning. I'm with the boss, and where 385 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: I think it was? Where was it to moin me 386 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: somewhere out he's He's going on for like two hours 387 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: in a speech like he loves to do and stuff 388 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: like that, leaving. 389 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 5: I think it was Grand Rapids, Michigan. 390 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: If I'm not forgot. 391 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 4: Michigan, that's right, it was Grand Rapids. We're up in 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 4: you know, the usual basketball hockey rink up in the country, 393 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: you and I love up in you know, flyover country. Uh, 394 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: and he hits about three in the morning before we 395 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 4: get out of there and we land uh back in DC. 396 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 4: I don't know, ticks the morning, something like that. And 397 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 4: you know, I was there was no doubt in my mind. 398 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 5: He was going to win that race for Peter and Navarro. 399 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 5: The show is ending here, but I want you guys 400 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 5: to go check it out. I went to prison so 401 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 5: you wouldn't have to won't have to a love and 402 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 5: law fair story. In trump Land, you're listening to Team 403 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 5: forty seven with and Buck. We are joined now by 404 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 5: Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee. We're going to dive into 405 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 5: President Trump's announcement last week that he's going to be 406 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 5: bringing the National Guard into Memphis, which, according to many 407 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: measures of violent crime on a per capita basis, may 408 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: well be the most dangerous city in the entire country. 409 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 5: But I want to start with this, Senator Blackburn. First 410 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 5: of all, I missed you in Knoxville, where you and 411 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: I were both attending the Georgia Tennessee game, which did 412 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 5: not end well for the good guys in this case 413 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 5: the team wearing orange. But I know that you were 414 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 5: all over the place there and it's a sporting event. 415 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 5: But I bet you had a similar experience as I did, 416 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 5: Senator Blackburn, which is the number of people who came 417 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 5: up to me that wanted to talk about what happened 418 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 5: to Charlie Kirk, even at a sporting event, was unlike 419 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 5: anything I've ever seen before. No One usually people want 420 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 5: to come up and it's almost exclusively, Hey, who's going 421 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 5: to win the game? What do you think is going 422 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 5: to happen? Almost everybody that came up to me at 423 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 5: the sporting event wanted to talk about the Charlie Kirk situation. 424 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 5: I've not asked you this, but I bet you found 425 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 5: it to be similar as well. And I know you 426 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 5: have a grandson that attends the same school as my sons, 427 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: and the impact on young men in particular of this 428 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 5: assassination has been extraordinarily awful. But their response has been 429 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 5: I have seen very profoundly courageous. I've been very encouraged. 430 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 5: So that's a big prelude, But I'm curious what you 431 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 5: found in both those situations. 432 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, I will tell you. I have been just 433 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 6: so honored by the conduct of my grandsons and their 434 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 6: classmates and how they held a memorial for Charlie kirk 435 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 6: in for the remembrance of nine to eleven, and our 436 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 6: grandson even noticed that the flags had not been moved 437 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 6: to half staff before before class started, So he walked 438 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 6: out to the flagpole and he lowered the flag to 439 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 6: half staff, and I think one of the teachers kind 440 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 6: of got in behind him a little bit about it, 441 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 6: but he said he was following the president's order for 442 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 6: all flags to fly at half staff until six pm 443 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 6: on Sunday. And I said, you know, if that's what 444 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 6: you get in trouble for, that's a pretty good thing. 445 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 6: Honoring someone who was assassinated, honoring those that lost their 446 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 6: lives in our military who fought after nine to eleven 447 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 6: in all of those brave first responders and doing what 448 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 6: the President said was the order of the day, which 449 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 6: was lowering the flags. And you're right about being at 450 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: University of Tennessee, we could hardly get through the crowd, 451 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 6: like you said, without people saying, look, we stand with 452 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk, we stand with family values in Tennessee values 453 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 6: and morals, and we stand with the President. And it 454 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 6: was just such an outpouring I think for so many 455 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 6: college students, whether you were there in Circle Park or 456 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: at one of the fraternity houses or wherever play, it 457 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 6: was astounding to me that these kids were such a 458 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 6: fan of Charlie Kirk. They listened to him, they followed him, 459 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 6: they enjoyed his podcast, and they wanted to They love 460 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 6: the way he speaks truth and have so gravitated to that, 461 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 6: and they loved President Trump, and they just wanted to 462 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 6: register their shock and their disappointment with what had happened 463 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 6: and their grief in many respects. And we had a 464 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: great sermon yesterday at our church and the minister said 465 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 6: something I think is so important is that while we 466 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 6: turn the other cheek, and we know to turn the 467 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: other cheek through evil, we cannot turn a blind eye, 468 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 6: and that is incumbent on us to remember that we 469 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 6: have to push back and fight against evil. And it 470 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 6: is pure evil that caused someone to try to silence 471 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk. And as we have seen, his message now 472 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 6: will be more powerful than ever. The outpouring of support 473 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 6: for Charlie in his work for Erica and their children. 474 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 6: It is not singular, but it is global in nature, 475 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 6: and indeed, I think this is truly a turning point. 476 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: Senator Blackburn, appreciate you being with us. Something that's also 477 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: getting some attention in the news cycle today is the 478 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: move by President Trump to perhaps bring National Guard and 479 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: bring federal resources to your home state and specifically to 480 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 2: help tackle the out of control murder rate in the 481 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: city of Memphis. What can you tell us you know 482 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: about this so far, what stage is the planning and 483 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: do you believe that this would be able to have 484 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: a marked impact and effect to bring that murder rate down? 485 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 6: Yes, indeed, I do think it is going to be helpful. 486 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 6: And what we know is this Cash Pattel gave me 487 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: a commitment when he came to meet with me before 488 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: his hearing for his FBI confirmation and I'm on Senate 489 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 6: Judiciary Committee. I asks him in my office and then 490 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 6: again publicly at the hearing to help me with Memphis 491 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 6: and getting an FBI surge in Memphis. Under President Trump's 492 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 6: first term, we had a program there called Legend. It 493 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 6: had great results. Biden ended it. Crime surged. We needed 494 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 6: something back. So this summer for two months we had 495 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 6: Operation Viper. There have been over five hundred arrest There 496 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 6: have already been over one hundred indictments. We know Memphis 497 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 6: has one hundred games. They have a per capital murder 498 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 6: rate of twenty five hundred per one hundred thousand. That 499 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 6: is why it's the most dangerous city in the country. 500 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 6: We know that during the Memphis had the best August 501 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 6: it has had in years. Whether it's murders or rapes 502 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 6: or sets burglaries, assaults, all the numbers have been down 503 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 6: and significantly down. Some the best in twenty years, some 504 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 6: the best in over five years. So this has made 505 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 6: a difference. Now the surge with the FBI is over. 506 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 6: They've worked closely with Memphis Police, with the Mayor of Memphis, 507 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 6: and they need to continue this multi phase approach and 508 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 6: it has been an interdisciplinary strategy with different agencies. So 509 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 6: in order to back up the Memphis Police Department, you 510 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,880 Speaker 6: will have the National Guard. Now they can go in, 511 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 6: they can do paperwork, they can do logistics, they can 512 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 6: do traffic. There are so many things they can do. 513 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 6: And this will allow Memphis Police who do have arrest 514 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 6: powers to go in and apprehend others these gangs and 515 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 6: get them off the streets. And that's where Memphis PD 516 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 6: needs to be focused is continuing to apprehend these gang 517 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 6: leaders and gang members that are selling drugs, that are 518 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 6: doing sex trafficking, human trafficking, that are carrying out these sets. 519 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 6: You know, in Memphis, it's a logistics hub, and we 520 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 6: have the port at Memphis. We have all five Class 521 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 6: A railroads I forty that goes from the east coast 522 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 6: to the west coast, and you also have fed X. 523 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 6: So when you've got all of this with the river, 524 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 6: the rail the highways that air, cargo theft is a 525 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 6: big issue and these gangs have created processes to go 526 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 6: in and rip these containers and carry out cargo theft. 527 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 6: So being able to have the police work with these 528 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 6: companies whether it's rail or water, our highways and I 529 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 6: get a handle around this cargo theft is vitally important also, 530 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 6: so the National Guard is going to be appreciated. They 531 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 6: are going to be welcomed in Memphis. We want Memphis 532 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 6: to be safe, We want it to be prosperous. It 533 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 6: is a wonderful city. It has a brilliant it has 534 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 6: a promising future, and a big part of that is 535 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 6: getting the crime under control. 536 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: Center Blackburn, I just Buck and I started off the 537 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: show talking about the dark soul of the left in 538 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: this country that so many people have felt compelled publicly 539 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 5: to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is a 540 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 5: big question, and it's one that I've been thinking about 541 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 5: a lot. How do we fix this? Because if your 542 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: soul is so dark that when you see a father 543 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 5: murdered in cold blood simply for sitting in front of 544 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 5: an open mic and saying tell me whatever you believe too, 545 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 5: the soul of so many people is profoundly evil here. 546 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 5: How do we fix the rot in our culture? 547 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: What can we do. 548 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: Well? 549 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 6: This is something that talking with people through the process 550 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: of legislation that I have worked on with the Kids 551 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 6: Online Safety Act and trying to get that passed, And 552 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 6: you look at what these young people are picking up 553 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 6: on social media, they become isolated. They get onto these 554 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 6: platforms like Reddit and discord, and they get into these 555 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 6: discussion groups, and instead of it being a tool that 556 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 6: opens their mind and something for good, it narrows their 557 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 6: thought process and they become very angry. So I think 558 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 6: the church has a role to play in this. I 559 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 6: think parents have a role to play in this. A 560 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 6: governance for social media platforms have a role to play 561 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 6: in this. Looking at the mental health of kids. That 562 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 6: is something that has to be done. It's not going 563 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 6: to be fixed by one thing or another thing. But 564 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 6: I do believe that strong families can help. I do 565 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 6: believe that getting kids off of these social media platforms 566 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 6: that will help. I do think that incur and I 567 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 6: will say this, I think the Governor of Utah has 568 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 6: done an exemplary job in this getting kids off these devices. 569 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 6: You know, right now, the studies that we have seen 570 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 6: as we've worked on keeping kids safe and try to 571 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 6: hold social media to account, you know, kids are spending 572 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 6: Teenagers are spending as much as eight hours a day 573 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 6: on the phone, eight hours. Middle school kids are spending 574 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 6: about five. And when they're doing this, they're being exposed 575 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 6: to things that young minds are not equipped to see. This. 576 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: I mean, this is when we have ratings on movies 577 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 6: in theaters. You can't take a Chile to an X 578 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 6: rated movie. You can't sell them alcohol or tobacco or firearms. 579 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 6: You can't take them to a pornographic show or a 580 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 6: strip club or sell them magazines. But on the virtual space, 581 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 6: they're exposed to it twenty four to seven and they 582 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 6: become desensitized. And you know, I just I am and 583 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 6: some of my friends, we are just praying, deeply, praying 584 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 6: that skills will fall from eyes and that people will 585 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 6: awaken and they will realize what is happening to our 586 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 6: children in our society. That they will encourage our children 587 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 6: to boldly stand for values and for right and to 588 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 6: stand against some of this evil presence to come off 589 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 6: of these devices. And that means that adults, parents, teachers, preachers, 590 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 6: everyone's going to have to do their part. 591 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: Senator Blackbird. Always appreciate you. Thanks for joining us. 592 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 6: You got it. Take care by now. 593 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to teen forty seven with Clay and 594 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Buck