WEBVTT - Reparations? How About We Don’t Pay Taxes | MiniPod

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<v Speaker 1>Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Home, Everybody. This is Angela Rai with Tiffany Cross

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<v Speaker 2>and Andrew Gillham. Today we're doing a mini pod and

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about Terrence Howard on his Hustle and Flow.

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<v Speaker 3>The hustle.

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<v Speaker 2>The hustle was trying not to pay nine hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in taxes. I've said nine hundred dollars, nine hundred thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in taxes, dawn near million dollars, and the flow

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<v Speaker 2>was I kind of liked this part. He said, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, I don't think as black people who are

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<v Speaker 2>descended as slaves, we just have to pay this shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not mad at it either.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with this part, but I good luck with

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<v Speaker 2>him staying out of jail. He was just talking about jail.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. The irs really just wants their money.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for people Matterwanda, right, people who end up going

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<v Speaker 3>to jail, it is really like a double middle finger

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<v Speaker 3>to them, where it's like I'm just not gonna pay you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think the larger question of when you consider

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<v Speaker 3>the wealth that black people created for this country from

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<v Speaker 3>the rice to the sugarcane to the cotton. We made

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<v Speaker 3>this here country a superpower. In the south was its

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<v Speaker 3>wealthiest region because that is where most of the enslaved

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<v Speaker 3>were working. And we have never been repaid. We'd never

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<v Speaker 3>had any reparations, We've never seen the benefit of any

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<v Speaker 3>of that work. As Angela coined the phrase, we built

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<v Speaker 3>this joint for free. So you know, on the surface,

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<v Speaker 3>this sounds like, oh, a kind of silly thing from

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<v Speaker 3>Terrence Howard, But when you get into it, this brother

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<v Speaker 3>is making a legitimate point. I don't know how we

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<v Speaker 3>would make this happen, but I would be completely down

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<v Speaker 3>for some sort of policy that says, yes, you are

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<v Speaker 3>exempt from paying taxes. We would have liked to hear

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden say in the State of the Union address

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<v Speaker 3>and he's gonna give black people an evergreen tax credit

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<v Speaker 3>where we never had to pay taxes. I will say

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<v Speaker 3>that he would not win we are election with that.

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<v Speaker 2>What about Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see what we get?

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<v Speaker 2>You guys just did it, Rejo Whisper, We.

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<v Speaker 1>Just eliminated our imagination. Yes, we came down on the

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<v Speaker 1>side of practical and political and politically.

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<v Speaker 3>Raab because but you know that we know the other

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<v Speaker 3>side too.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because we know the other side too well. But

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<v Speaker 1>should knowing the other side and their objection be enough

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the demand. And Terrence Howard says, no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you may think that we're past this, but I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still hanging on to the forty acres and a mule.

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<v Speaker 1>And since y'all didn't come to pass, but that now

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<v Speaker 1>the land seems to be taken up or it is

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<v Speaker 1>bad land, or it's good land that you gave to

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<v Speaker 1>the black folks when you thought it was bad land,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're coming back to retake it. Hello Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say, I just what happened to homeboy

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<v Speaker 1>Wesley Sniders. Did he go to jail up just because

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<v Speaker 1>I got I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just don't he did in prison?

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<v Speaker 2>He did? He did. And here's the thing, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was just about to ask. I was literally sitting here,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I can only think of tax evasion

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<v Speaker 2>cases where black people are criminally prosecuted. I can't think

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<v Speaker 2>of no white folks, can you?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly? It could because I don't pay that much attention.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when something happens with Wesley snipes er Terrence Howard.

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<v Speaker 2>I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump didn't pay no damn taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy that. I just put up this that says tax

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<v Speaker 2>evasion by millionaires and billionaires tops one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars a year, says I, Rs Chief, And I

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<v Speaker 2>am curious to know how many of them? How many

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<v Speaker 2>of those tax evators get criminally prosecuted, get their wages garnished,

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<v Speaker 2>and ever have to do time in prison. I can

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<v Speaker 2>only think of black folks.

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<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder why the top one percent could, by any

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<v Speaker 1>reasonable rational notion, be sitting in the Donald Trump camp today. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to conclude that Donald Trump and the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>inside countries, Donald Trump a slip of the tramp tongue,

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<v Speaker 1>but he and the Republicans in Congress have stood up

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<v Speaker 1>against the IRS, have threatened to zero fund it, have

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<v Speaker 1>threatened to slow walk the money that was approved during COVID,

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<v Speaker 1>where Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats said, where we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go after the cheats and those who don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>their taxes. They enumerated this, Yeah, and Donald Trump said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to get rid of the IRS, and He

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<v Speaker 1>was not by himself. He had the majority of the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican leadership in the House who said, no, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to bring in this pulling back the layerr y'all because

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<v Speaker 1>you asked the question, and it's the right question to

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<v Speaker 1>be asked that when we make the statement that, in

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<v Speaker 1>a principle wanted that that, Nah, you owe me. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know you. Nobody is over here explaining from members

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<v Speaker 1>of Congress or from Donald Trump why it is that

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<v Speaker 1>they hold the position that they hold, and why did

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<v Speaker 1>those folks have never ever held accountable. We shouldn't be surprised,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not surprising.

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<v Speaker 3>But honestly, if we could just take it out of

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<v Speaker 3>the minutia of politics for a second and the practicality

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<v Speaker 3>of what it looks like for us. You and I

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<v Speaker 3>have talked about this. Our money in our industry is

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes very clunky, and so sometimes you will get a

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<v Speaker 3>big lump sum check. And I know what we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about in our podcast this week about the payroll we inherit.

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<v Speaker 3>When you get money where mama needs, brother needs, nephew needs,

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<v Speaker 3>sister needs, cousin need, Auntie needs, and you're paying out everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I get a lump sum check. Let's just

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<v Speaker 3>say to keep it for easy figures one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>And technically maybe I owe the government because once you

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<v Speaker 3>get to states, and sometimes our work is in different states.

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<v Speaker 3>So if I've spoken in Indianapolis, if I've spoken in

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, if I've spoken in Miami, I owe all

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<v Speaker 3>those places taxes from when I spoke. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>All I'm getting is this big lump lump sum and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at my bills and everything, and guess what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, to hell with the IRS. I have these

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<v Speaker 3>bills to pay right now, and that is what is

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<v Speaker 3>in front of me right now. That's the most urgent thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't I literally did not know, well, how do

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<v Speaker 3>I just call up the IRS and say, hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>got this check. I might owe y'all some money. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know how to do it, like there is no

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<v Speaker 3>guidelines to that. And so in the entertainment industry, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>with Terrence Howard, I can see how you're getting these

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<v Speaker 3>big lump sums of money and you don't know really

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<v Speaker 3>how to manage it. That's why people some people have

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<v Speaker 3>business managers, but sometimes business managers is an expense.

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<v Speaker 2>You cannot care nurse CPA for folks who don't earn any.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, thank you, but you I mean, I can't technically

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<v Speaker 3>afford a business manager right now. You know somebody that's

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<v Speaker 3>telling me how to spend my money. But those are

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<v Speaker 3>the people who can step in for you. So I

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<v Speaker 3>actually feel really bad for entertainers who find themselves in

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<v Speaker 3>that space. I feel bad for me who has found

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<v Speaker 3>myself out.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think if we have to pay hours and

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<v Speaker 1>they're on our neck about getting their money for us,

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<v Speaker 1>then be that on the neck of the world. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the folks who got who are underpaying their taxes, are

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<v Speaker 1>not paying taxes at all, Donald Trump?

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody then haven't filed since twenty seventeen New Bureau.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you've done some bs like you have value at

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<v Speaker 1>one level to get financing from a bank, but when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to them paying on that great big wealth

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<v Speaker 1>we're built all of a sudden. So all I'm saying

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<v Speaker 1>is was good for the goose, how to be good

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<v Speaker 1>for the ganner until Terrence Howard is able to help

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<v Speaker 1>us move this country forward around reparations. UH, in association

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<v Speaker 1>with taxation, pay your taxes. But we understand we understand

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<v Speaker 1>the heat, we understand it, But to the government go

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<v Speaker 1>after the folks who ain't spend some time, energy effort

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<v Speaker 1>going after thes like.

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<v Speaker 2>I also just think from a practical standpoint, like if

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about efficiency, like, is it really worth

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<v Speaker 2>it just to have the example of someone who has

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<v Speaker 2>a big name to collect this small check when you sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>when you have people who are not paying millions and

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<v Speaker 2>billions of dollars in taxes like this doesn't even seem

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<v Speaker 2>like a smart strategy. If the government is old money,

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<v Speaker 2>go where you can get the biggest hit.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine Buffett said it. He said, my secretary should not

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<v Speaker 1>be paying a greater percentage of her earnings and taxes

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<v Speaker 1>than I pay. In mind, Yeah, this is Warren Buffett, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanksfully, thankfully he's made the giving pledge. But if

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<v Speaker 1>y'all just charged them more, right, that's I think that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>I think some of them have in filed since twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>but some.

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<v Speaker 1>Of them have defrauded the system. That's true too. They

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<v Speaker 1>ain't gonna pay and nobody is going to go after them.

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<v Speaker 1>Terrence Howard is an exception here. I'm not calling him

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<v Speaker 1>a millionaire, but if he is a millionaire. He's an

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<v Speaker 1>exception within the millionaire class that the taxing authority is

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<v Speaker 1>going after him trying to collect because they didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>that to Donald Trump. And I'll rest my case on him.

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<v Speaker 3>And those wealthy people have been dealing with these kind

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<v Speaker 3>of things for decades. Like some of us, this is

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<v Speaker 3>very new to us, you know, like we're just in

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<v Speaker 3>the past five ten years just figuring this out, just

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<v Speaker 3>now negating this. Donald Trump's father was a millionaire. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these people come from family money. They

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<v Speaker 3>have family attorneys, they have a crew of people around them.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have a whole bunch of tax law that

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<v Speaker 1>has been developed in their favor so that when they

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<v Speaker 1>pass it on or they pass it on via stock, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not in cash. Yeah, that the rules of different, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>come on.

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<v Speaker 3>Every part of that system, every part of the system, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>is designed how.

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<v Speaker 2>They're hide and playing sight and so with this like

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<v Speaker 2>this and a send to the presidency, that's it. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Inflation Reduction Act, which was of course passed under

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<v Speaker 2>the Biden administration, is how the IRS has taken on

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<v Speaker 2>this new approach to you know, coming after the millionaires

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<v Speaker 2>and billionaires who have not paid their taxes or have

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<v Speaker 2>not filed since twenty seventeen. It says that eighty billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>The IRA increased the IRS budget by eighty billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>over ten years, and most of that is designed to

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<v Speaker 2>support with enforcement of folks who haven't paid their taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's not just the folks who can can cut

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<v Speaker 2>the corners. This is like for folks who actively haven't filed,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Terrence Howards of the world. I'm interested to

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<v Speaker 2>see and I hope that it doesn't happen this way,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm interested to see if more of the people

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<v Speaker 2>who are targeted look like us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Angela, I don't have any hope that that bro

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<v Speaker 1>one will get the resources. I think that the Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>so long as they stay in a negotiating or power position,

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<v Speaker 1>are going to continue to slow walk. That's why they

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<v Speaker 1>said zero fund the IRS, and that's why they said

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<v Speaker 1>to slow walk. This money in their direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill passed in twenty twenty two. They have this money.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess what Zelenski was supposed to get that money from Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the released is saying that this is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm telling you don't hold your breath because I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't holding mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I got a question as we close out because this

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<v Speaker 3>is our mini pod so it's a quick topic. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have a question for our viewers. I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to hear you all weigh in should black people have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay tax?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this question?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to hear what y'all have to say the

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<v Speaker 3>way and drop a comment. We know your answer. We

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<v Speaker 3>all got the same answer, but we want to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Might Andrew wants to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people are to pay their fair share, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think if I have to pay my fair share

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<v Speaker 1>the wealthiest one percent, let me ask you?

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<v Speaker 2>Can we ask this a follow up to the listeners

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<v Speaker 2>and Andrew Kate answer, First, what's the fair share? What

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<v Speaker 2>percentage is a fair shared to pay?

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<v Speaker 1>Really sucks?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the fair share? But how much do you

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<v Speaker 2>think you should pay?

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<v Speaker 1>Well? First of all, the fair share is what does

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<v Speaker 1>it cost us to run the government of our choosing?

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<v Speaker 3>But should our fair share look like everyone else? Should

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<v Speaker 3>there be like? Should it be adjusted? Is that some

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<v Speaker 3>form of reparations?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, if you're in this tax bracket, if you are

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<v Speaker 3>a descendant of the enslaved, then we will decrease your

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<v Speaker 3>your tax racket.

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<v Speaker 1>If we were the wealthy one percent, they would have

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<v Speaker 1>come up with that rule for us.

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<v Speaker 2>Ady, We're in a debate, and I'm the question. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>asking you the question, sir, what is your percentage that

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<v Speaker 2>you want to pay?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what happened was no. I'm just saying, look

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<v Speaker 1>at this here. If I feel in some ways overburdened

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<v Speaker 1>by the current tax structure, largely because it squeezes those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who are at the working middle to pay

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<v Speaker 1>to pay the lion's share of what it costs to

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<v Speaker 1>operate the government, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think is fair to pay?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's arbitrary for me to say that, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what would this system look like if everybody

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<v Speaker 1>paid thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to know what I want to pay?

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<v Speaker 1>I can guess, but sure you can say it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying it didn't. I was a local elective official, Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't be like against likeation. Sexation goes to mention

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are in public school, paid for by my

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<v Speaker 1>taxes that I pay on my house.

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<v Speaker 2>This part because you get to hear like what all

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<v Speaker 2>gets covered ambulances?

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<v Speaker 1>But what I can't tell you is what all gets

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<v Speaker 1>covered federally because of what a messy mess deliberately. So

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<v Speaker 1>that system is how many people don't have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>taxes because they inherited their money or it was passed

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<v Speaker 1>down through stock or stock. What do they do? What

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<v Speaker 1>do they do? Now? They shred half the stock the

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<v Speaker 1>value of the stock, double it, and then you pass

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<v Speaker 1>it on to your children, and your children don't pay

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<v Speaker 1>on that, and then your children's I mean, you've got generations,

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<v Speaker 1>five six generations of wealth, and nobody in those five

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<v Speaker 1>or six generations had to do a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>For It's a good point. You got to get home

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<v Speaker 3>to your Yes, but our viewers the simple easy questions

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<v Speaker 3>should black people? Because these are internet comments, so we

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<v Speaker 3>don't need your dissertation on a simple easy question, should

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<v Speaker 3>black people have to pay taxes? We want to hear

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<v Speaker 3>from you.

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<v Speaker 1>As a form of reparations.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Andrew, you better get home to those babies and

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<v Speaker 3>can we go eat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, welcome home.

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