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The Fifth Hour with Ben 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 1: Maller starts right now, and we are in the air 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: everywhere the vast and ever expanding empire of podcasting as 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: we are coast to coast, border to border and beyond. 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: This is a full filipbuster on the Fifth Hour with 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Benn Maller, and we are joined for better or worse 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: by David Gascony. Yes I'm still on furlough. This our 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: Saturday podcast and another conversation podcast. Guest Gone Here is 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: an an old friend comes back to hang out on 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: the podcast. And this has been a weekend where yesterday 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: we had Leo Terrell on. Leo has been on the 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: podcast before he came back for his second appearance on 20 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: the on the show, and now we're having another person 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: on today that was on previously. Is this Are we 22 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: rinsing and repeating? Is that what we're doing right now? 23 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: I guess we've run out of friends that we have. 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: Is that's essentially it. We've run out of people that 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: we know that we can put on the podcast. And 26 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: so now we're going back and and these these are 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: guys that got big download numbers, right, Leo Terrell and 28 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: and Lee hacks Hamilton, who's on today, both got a 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: big numbers. Yeah, these are these are like the anti 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: Tom Looney's of the world. You know, these are ratings 31 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: driven bonanza. Now is that true? Is that Tom Looney? 32 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna let him know that. Yeah, low download 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: totals by Looney. Huh. Interesting. It was a brutal month 34 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: of August for everything outside of of what we did. 35 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: Tom Looney came him in extremely low bad showing by him. Wow, 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: bad job by by Looney. And Looney likes to brag 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: about how popular is. So that's that's all all right, 38 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: before we get into hacks All, We're gonna have hacksall 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: here hanging out with us. A cameo dot com cameo 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: dot com type my name in Ben mall you want 41 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: a birthday shout out, you want some big life event, 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: you need a pep talk, I'll give you a mall 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: or pep talk, whatever you might need there. It's not flee, 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: but it's not that much. 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Well, yeah, 64 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: you can't tag me on there, so you can take 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: shots if you want, well you'll never see them. So 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I can take gratuitous cheap shots at Giest Scott. Yeah, 67 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,839 Speaker 1: but I mean, you don't want to be that big 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: of a pussy to you or you gotta like take shots. 69 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not a radio What are you talking about? 70 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: Your You're such a more sugar that I have to 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: do this some time to time to keep you in 72 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: line because you're a narcissist west of the four oh 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: five talking about What am I talking about? I'm talking 74 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: about reality. I'm I'm a man of the people out here, 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: slaving away east of the four or five. You know badly, 76 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: my air conditioned dies. I run in there. I do 77 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the show because I'm dedicated, and I'm languishing over here, 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: and you're high forlutin walking across the Pacific Ocean like aristocrat. 79 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: I'm floating on a gurney across the Pacific Ocean. Here 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: we go, Here we go. Let me get my little 81 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: violin out there. Let me get a little violin me 82 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: out of the infirmary into the network studio. Keep in mind, Guesstcon, 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: let me put something out. When I had my chest 84 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: sliced open, you ab all right? No, no, I I 85 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: have a bunch of scars all over my chest right now, 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,599 Speaker 1: my beautiful chest. I have a bunch of scars. As 87 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: I was getting put under anesthesia. I'm getting f you. 88 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: Tweets that tweets text from Gascon. I'm in the hospital, 89 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm about to go under. I don't know if I'm 90 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: gonna make it or not. And I've got Gascon who's 91 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: harassing me via text message? Well, I mean this is 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: something that you kicked down the you know, you kicked 93 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: the can down the road a bit, and this is 94 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: what happened to you. So I mean, had you not 95 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: neglected your own body, I wouldn't have been violently in text. Well, 96 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: I could say the same thing about you if you 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: were like a normal human being and the two would 98 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: have just left your body, you wouldn't have needed this. 99 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: But obviously you're such a you're such a meathead that 100 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: it can't even leave your body. It's a bad job 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: by you. Yeah, I'm a hoard or what can I say? Yeah? 102 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: There you go, you are you are a hoarder. That 103 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: is your future. Right, Let's get to it. You want 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: to get to it right now? Yes, all right, Well 105 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I am very excited. As many of you know, I 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: got my start in radio at a college radio station 107 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: at Saddleback College. But I got an internship as I 108 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: was a college DJ at the mighty six ninety. This 109 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: a seventy seven thousand WAT blow torch from Baha to 110 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: the Canadian Rockies. In that phrase came from the man 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: that I learned radio from. I watched Bias Moses. I 112 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 1: learned from Hacksaw at Lee Hacksaw Hamilton's as he did 113 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: his show. He is the patriarch of West Coast Sports Talk, 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: the o G of San Diego sports Talk. He's seen 115 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: and done it all multiple radio stations at the very 116 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: popular Hasas Headlines. In fact, before we bring Leon, if 117 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: you were a big fan of Hasas Headlines, you can 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: still get his headlines. He updates them every day. He's 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: really meticulous. On Lee hack Saw Hamilton's dot com, his website, 120 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at hack Saw ten ninety. You can 121 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: find him on there. But those Hacksaw headlines. He pretty 122 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: much just puts the script up that he used for 123 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: his radio show, and there's a lot of good information 124 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: that is really what what Twitter has become. Hacks All 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: was the original Twitter. But anyway, all right enough buttering 126 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: the Biscuits of Lee has Hall with him. The reason 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: we're having Leon is because San Diego the focus of 128 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: the sporting world least in baseball trade deadline at the 129 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: beginning of this week, and the Podres going bronkers at 130 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, wheeling and dealing. They made six trades 131 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: involving over fifteen players. They acquired ten new players, including 132 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Mike Clevinger. They spent a lot of money. So leave 133 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: let's walking in on this one. I guess the question 134 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: is this is un This is unorthodox for the Padres. 135 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: They don't normally do these kind of things. Where did 136 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: this come from? Well, there's a memo that's going out 137 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: to the Dodgers and the Cubs. San Diego's coming coming 138 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: after you. October is going to be very interesting. Ben. 139 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: They've been planning to be competitive in they had gone 140 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: through more than a decade of losing baseball and not 141 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: been in the playoffs since two thousand and six, spent 142 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: any enormous amount of money UH in free agency, an 143 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: enormous amount of money in the Latin American free ation area, 144 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: and I've overpaid on a whole bunch of their real 145 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: high draft up the excess to get them locked down. 146 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: And as they were suffering all these ninety lost seasons 147 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, you looked, you looked down 148 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: into the farm system and you saw kids having really 149 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: good seasons at every level. You know, that starts with 150 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: Fernando Tatis when they got at age seventeen. So we 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: knew they were building, and they kept dropping hands. They 152 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: hoped to be maybe on the periphery of the playoffs. 153 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: But now with the shortened season and the fact that 154 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: they made some offseason deals that really helped their pitching staff, 155 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: and they've been able to stay for the most part 156 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: free of any significant pitching injuries, and everybody else has 157 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: fallen apart significantly. The Dodgers, the Cubs, and the Potteries. 158 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: Right now the top three teams in the National League. 159 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: And who could have ever imagined would be talking about 160 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Washington or Philadelphia or the St. Louis Cardinals just being 161 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: an utter chaos because of all the injuries that have 162 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: ripped their clubs up. They got to the trading deadline 163 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: and they thought, hey, we've got a chance to do something. 164 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: And what they did was they had stockpiled so much 165 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 1: in the farm system and they were facing the potential 166 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: loss of some of these kids in the Rule five 167 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: draft is coming near. Because you can't protect everybody. They 168 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: decided we were going to start shopping and we're gonna 169 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: put multiple kids into deals, so we're gonna try to 170 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: get the right right guys. And you know, turned out 171 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: to be a nine player deal with Cleveland to get 172 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: my club Inert, which was huge. The Seattle deal is 173 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: probably deliverable downroad. That's seven player transactions. So they think 174 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: right now, Ben that they've got excuse me, every component set. 175 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: They are deep in kitching, which is huge in the 176 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: best of three or best of five series. Right now, 177 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: they are red hot hitting the ball. You look, you 178 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: look at their lineup, starting about with the Loodolf guy 179 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: and then going through about six or seven in the 180 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: batting order, and they they're all hitting better because they're 181 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: all supporting each other. So they can't wait for October 182 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: to come and you know, is it possible they could 183 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 1: be a World Series team. I guess anything is possible. 184 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Oakland could be World Series teams too, 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: but have to go through the Dodgers or go through 186 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: the Cubs to get there. But the way this thing 187 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: is built right now, and if you looked at their 188 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: rotation on paper, and you looked at the depth of 189 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: the bullpen on paper, and then you looked at that 190 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: batting order, as I said, one through six or one 191 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: through seven, that's pretty comparable to who the Dodgers are 192 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: and what the Cubs are right now. So I'm gonna 193 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: be a fascinating month of October and baseball for sure. Well, 194 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: and and Lee, as you taught me back in the day, 195 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: the baseball playoffs are such a crapshoot with the short 196 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: series and all that. But let's break that. Clevinger is good. 197 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 1: I'll give you Clevinger, but some of these other guys 198 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: I only reworked the bullpen the Dodgers had at the 199 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: time we're talking here, the top bullpen in baseball. Fact, 200 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: they have the top pitching staff in baseball. Like a 201 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: lot of some of these relief pitchers that the plotters got. 202 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: I to me, they don't really move the kneel. You 203 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: do you disagree with that? And you think these guys 204 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: are actually going to make some impact because I I'm 205 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: looking at you. You're raiding the Seattle Mariners bullpen and 206 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: the and the Royals. This doesn't excite me very much. Lee, Well, 207 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: they got role players. Granted, they lost Curby Yates with 208 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: the bone ship surgery, but but they've got Drew tom 209 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: Morans who's reinvented himself as a short reliever closer. And 210 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: they got Matt Strong, who has really pitched well since 211 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: he came from Kansas City more than a year ago. 212 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: And they've got Trevor Rosenthal who has rediscovered a hundred 213 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: mile an hour fastball and right now he's pitching like 214 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: he pitched four or five years ago before he had 215 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: the elbow problems in St. Louis. Uh And and they're 216 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 1: deep and set up guys, and they still got young 217 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: arms that they could call up and plug in. So 218 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: I think collectively, you know, if they were Rolaids reliefaced 219 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: guy in the pen, No, not at all, not even 220 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: a Kenley Jansen. But I'll tell you what. They go 221 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: to the bullpen in the fifth and said extending, they 222 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: got role players and get you to the ninth and 223 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: get you to whomever the new closer it's going to be. 224 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: So I just think collectively, there's a lot of strength there, 225 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: and they all throw the ball hard, so attempt Timmy. 226 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: It's intriguing. And you know, I know from the outside 227 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: looking in, you know people on Los Angeles, people in 228 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: New York, But say, who are these guys? What do 229 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: you think they're good? Well, we've sat here and watched 230 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: this thing, you know, and I said, I thought they 231 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: could go thirty five and this year, which we're getting 232 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they might have an outside shot of 233 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: winning forty games. Nobody would have ever expected that. So 234 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: at the front of the rotation, you've got Clevinger, and 235 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: you've got the kid Chris Paddock, and he set some 236 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: up to send some downs, but the kids vibrant. And 237 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: you've got Donelson Lamet, who might be the quietest number 238 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: one starter on anybody's staff. And they still got other 239 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: guys that they can plug in, and that does not 240 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: We've had no conversation whatsoever yet about Mackenzie Gore or 241 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: the really highly rated number one draft pick who's sitting 242 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: on this taxi squad and roster, and Luis Patino who's 243 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: found a role right now as a setup. So it's 244 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: they got numbers and that's good pitching beats good hitting, 245 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: especially in a scary short series. That's that's what really 246 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: intreates me. Yeah, and Lee, we mentioned you can't mention 247 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: the place you've mentioned for Nado t junior, but this 248 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: guy I was trying to the last time we've had 249 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: good young players in baseball over the years, and obviously 250 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Mike Trout's great near in judge, but the Razzle dazzle 251 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: that for for Nato to these junior brings. Uh, you 252 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: might have to go back to a rod to find 253 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: a guy that brought that impact right away with the Razz. 254 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: But is this is he gonna be a Padre for 255 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: the next ten years? I know he can't be a 256 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: free agent, I think till he's gonna be in San Diego, 257 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: certainly over the next few years. But is this a 258 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: long term guy? Is he gonna have a career where 259 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: he stays with the Padres? You think, you know, going 260 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: down the line ten, twelve, thirteen years or is this 261 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,359 Speaker 1: once he's a free agent he's out of their situation 262 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: now because this has become a really good place to play, 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 1: and they got an ownership that's put a lot of 264 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: money into this franchise and Petro Petco Park pretty good 265 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: stadium to play in. It's a pretty good baseball city. 266 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: If they win, they'll draw three million in that ballpark 267 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: next to the gas lamp quarter. Says a lot of 268 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: positives right now. And you know some of the guys 269 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: in the media are just running rampant, Well, how are 270 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: they going to resign them? Etceter with. These guys have 271 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: paid money. These who would ever thought these guys would 272 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: have paid Maddie Machado thirty million a year or paid 273 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: our Cosmo thirty million a year, or dold Off the 274 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of contract they did to Willmeyer. So the ownership 275 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: is there, Is it Dodger Rich? Is it Yankee Crazy? No? 276 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: But it's it's pretty good. And in terms of Tatisa 277 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: tell you the reason this team is right now in 278 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: this funt to go deep into October is are these 279 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: nicknames El Nino Las Alsa and the Swiss Army Knife, 280 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: Elninios ct. He does everything. The only thing that scares 281 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: me about him is he plays so hard. He's going 282 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: to get himself hurt because he is reckless. Alas also 283 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: is Machado now that that put good people around him 284 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: in the batting order, is a very different ball player 285 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: than the one that kind of dragged through last season. 286 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: And and the Swiss Army knife is his kid. They 287 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: scouted from Tampa Bay. Why the Rays would ever give 288 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: up on him kind of stuns me. Jake Cronenworth, who 289 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: plays first, second, third, left, center, and right. And by 290 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: the way, dude is hitting three. So it's not like this. 291 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: This is a guy who showed up in April and 292 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: disappeared May. He's just he's hitting everybody and again red 293 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: hot batting order. Short season, here comes the playoffs up. Yeah, 294 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: it's it's just really intriguing considering all the bad baseball, 295 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: but fans in San Diego have had to live through 296 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: and tolerate. Now, all of a sudden, this thing has arrived. 297 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: I think the shame of it all then is if 298 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: if fans were allowed in the stadium and we played 299 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: a full season, they draw three million. Here. You know, 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: the first half of last season with the arrival of Machado, 301 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: and he hit early, he hit well, Myers said, well, 302 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: Eric Hosmer hit, well, they got to the All Star 303 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: break ATTT five and they punched the Dodgers in the 304 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: mouth right before the All Star break. I'll tell you 305 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: what the atmosphere a Petico Park was like going to 306 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: an NFL football playoff game. I mean it was he elected. 307 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: So the saddest part is no fans in the stands. 308 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: Otherwise they draw three million in this place. Had just 309 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: going crazy. Right now they're going crazy watching it on 310 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: TV because they can't go to the yard. I'm happy 311 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: is that I like the Dodgers. Actually, I'm happy for 312 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: the plagect. When I was interning for you that that 313 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: was around the time the Padres had that fire sale 314 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: back in the nineties and they traded away a bunch 315 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: of guys and they I would go to Jack Murphy 316 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Stadium and I would get a ticket, the cheapest ticket, 317 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: and I would be sitting behind the dugout by the 318 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: second inning because no one, no one was there. Stadium 319 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: was empty when they got rid of all those guys. 320 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: But I guess gott this year as well, and he 321 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: wanted to yap away and he had some things he 322 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: wanted to say. Yes, guess count well I was kind 323 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: of curiously just because of you mentioned the organization and 324 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: the franchise and ownership group. Do you think they make 325 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: a move or any moves like this if we're playing 326 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty two games as opposed to something 327 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: condensed like this. Well, i's this. We're August thirty one 328 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: and it was the middle of a hundred sixty two 329 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: game drive and there are only four games out of 330 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: first place, and in the wild card situation, yeah, they 331 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: probably would have. But here they are and they're not 332 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: going anywhere in the final twenty three or twenty four 333 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: games that are left in this season. And that the 334 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: one thing that's different about Padre baseball now than we've 335 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: seen in a long time. It's not one or two 336 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: players man roster that contributes, and they are. They are 337 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: deep and starting pitching. And now they've got the plethora 338 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: of guys out of the bullpen, and they've got a 339 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 1: couple of kids sitting on the stack squad that a 340 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: champion of the bid for the next of their opportunity 341 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: to come be part of this. So now this is 342 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: this is the real deal. You know, you compare this too, sadly, 343 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: what's happened in Anaheim where they have Mike Trout and 344 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: they don't have an awful lot around him. That's what 345 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: pottery baseball used to be. One player out of the 346 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: farm system, you hope it's going to be a star, 347 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: but there never ever was enough around him. But this 348 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: is this is the electric and the fact that we're 349 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: looking at the at this makeup of the postseason. We're 350 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: best of three, and everybody plays the best of three, 351 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: and I don't care how good you are, you get 352 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: scared if you've got to match up with San Diego 353 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: in the best of three, first round of the best 354 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: of fives, and then and going from there. So now 355 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: this is the real deal. And this ownership has spent 356 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: a lot of money, They burned through a lot of money, 357 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: that made some mistakes on money, and yet they've gone 358 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: back and they've given this general manager of the green 359 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: light to do this. And so I mean, it's it's 360 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: really interesting to see how aggressive A. J. Prelor was 361 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: at the trade deadline, But the fact of the matter 362 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: was it signed an awful lot of players over about 363 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: a four year window. In the minor leagues. They had 364 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: a lot of bargaining ships and and the unique thing 365 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: to me is after making six trades right wrapped around 366 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: the deadline, and after moving out about fifteen total players, 367 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: they still have all the blue chips at the top 368 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: of the board in the farm system that are still 369 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: owned by San Diego. So it's kind of cool compared 370 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: to where we're then in the past summers for the 371 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: last decade plus. Do you proceed with any caution though, 372 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: because when you look at the divisions and how the 373 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: alignment is right now, you're obviously looking at the National 374 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: League West and outside the Dodgers, San Francisco is a 375 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: punching bag. Colorado is a punching bag, and the same 376 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: thing with Arizona. And then you look at the American 377 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: League East as well. You mentioned with Anaheim Oakland is 378 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: there Houston's teetering on five hundred, But outside of that, 379 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: it really is anyone's in one's game. So if ever 380 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: there was a year for San Diego to get fatten 381 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: off a mystic, why don't you agree that this is 382 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 1: the year? Well, yeah, because, like I said, they've been 383 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: building towards this and understand this four years ago when 384 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: they decided to go on this unbelievable spending spree. Uh, 385 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: to sign all these Latin American players. What they had 386 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: plotted out was the Yankees are over the luxury tax, 387 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: the Cubs have spent over the luxury tax, the Red 388 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Sox are taxed out. They're not going to be players 389 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: for any of these players in Cuba or possibly out 390 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: of Mexico. Uh and a select odd one or two 391 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: in the Pacific Rim. And they said, this is the 392 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: year June one, four years ago, we're gonna go on 393 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: a spending spree and we're gonna sign all these guys. 394 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: And they signed all these Cubans. And now not all 395 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: of them have gotten there yet. They've used a couple 396 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: in his bargaining ships. But they had they had pre 397 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: planned because of the paralysis with the luxury tax and 398 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: the limits and signing pools for the Red Sox and 399 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: the Yankees and the Cubs and a few others, that 400 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 1: was the or they were going to do it. And 401 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: they did it, and they got them all signed, and 402 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 1: they overpaid for a couple of their draft picks to 403 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: convince these kids to leave college and and to sign 404 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: to sign a fodder contract. So you know, here, here's 405 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: where they are. Because now they've got good young players 406 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: in the system. They've used some as as assets to 407 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: make these six trades. Thought they executed, you know, and 408 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: they convince convince the free agents to come, so hey, 409 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: it's it's right there. And they think because Machado is 410 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: still young, Hosmer still got miles left on him, Trent 411 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: Grisham is young, Myers is at the midpoint of his 412 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: career and is having a nice first half of the season. 413 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: They think this is not a one time thing. They 414 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: think because of the numbers that the Puddlers having a system, 415 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to win and stay 416 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: competitive if they stay injury free on the pitching staff, 417 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: stay competitive for a bunch of years. Now. Whether or 418 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: not they're going to be able to go back into 419 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: the marketplace another summer from now and sign a whole 420 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: pile more of the next wave of free agents, that's 421 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,920 Speaker 1: that's debatable. But they haven't made a lot of mistakes 422 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: on the kids that they've drafted high, and they've had 423 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of eye draft bricks because they haven't made 424 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: made any mistakes or have guys blow off their arms. 425 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: So strength of numbers and they seem to have them, 426 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: and they used some of them, and I still got 427 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: more coming. I want to get off the padres here 428 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: and Uh, you are the former voice of the San 429 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: Diego Chargers. Did a great job, wonderful NFL play by 430 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: play run there and it is amazingly. The Charges have 431 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: been in l A a a few years now and all 432 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: of San Diego has essentially turned their back on the Charges, 433 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: which I didn't think was having. I don't think the charge. 434 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 1: I talked to some of the people with the Chargers 435 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: lead and they they thought that a certain percentage of 436 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: San Diego fans We're gonna drive up and back when 437 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: fans were allowed to go to games and attend Charger games. 438 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: And it hasn't happened. It has been unreal. Uh, what 439 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: is the NFL fan in San Diego doing that? The 440 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: old Charger fans, if they have they picked a different team. 441 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 1: What's the pulse of the people there in San Diego 442 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: as far as NFL It's a it's a real viable question. Ben. Uh. 443 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: This is a melting pot of people from everywhere, and 444 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the intangible thing to make San Diego 445 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: different from any place else is that you have fans 446 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: who have moved here who are Patriot fans, or Bear fans, 447 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,239 Speaker 1: or Seahawk fans or Dallas Cowboy fans or whomever. So 448 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: they have a lot of rooting interest about the team 449 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: back home. And if this team here was good as 450 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: the old San Diego Chargers became in my era when 451 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: I was the voice of the Chargers, and then what 452 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: they became in the Marty Schottenheimer era. For a short 453 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: period of time, you could not buy a ticket to 454 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: a Charger game. Now when they got bad, and then 455 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: when the ownership made a lot of mistakes in terms 456 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: of running off the original successful coach, Bobby Ross and 457 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: then firing and running out Marty Schottenheimer, they turned on 458 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: the Spoutos family and then the team started fall apart. 459 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was the last linkage between Charger football and 460 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: San Diego and what is up there in Los Angeles. 461 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: He has gone and now the Chargers will not be 462 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: on anybody's radar at all. And I, you know, I 463 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: thought it was ridiculous for Spanos his people to keep 464 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: making these public pronouncement. So Charger fans will follow us, well, 465 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: the hell they will can compare to what they did 466 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: to this community. After fifty five years of loyalty, The 467 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: TV ratings were cut in half. Where they used to 468 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: get thirty shares on Sunday, they're getting fourteen shares now, 469 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: and out of that fourteen shares watching Charger football on 470 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: TV and San Diego's hate watching hoping they lose, hoping 471 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: their guys get hurt. I mean, is the anger here 472 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: has just never ever subsided. Uh. It is interesting to 473 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: me though that the Rams have made no inroads at 474 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: all in San Diego. And I thought the Rams might 475 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: try to do some marketing, considering how they got so 476 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: quickly gar A Golf, Sean McVeigh, etcetera. But it's like 477 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: they've they've kind of ignored the marketer, have not made 478 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: much of an effort. But the fans here watched the games, 479 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 1: they'll watch the Chargers, they watch all the other NFL 480 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: games on on Direct TV and Sunday Ticket and all that. 481 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's just a very very different time. It's 482 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: a very empty feeling. There's still a lot of anger 483 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 1: in the community. Um, you know, I did sports talk 484 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: radio here, Ben, as you know, for twenty eight years, 485 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: and and NFL football on radio and conversations on talk shows, 486 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 1: and the Chargers and the Raiders just absolutely drove the 487 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: content of what we did on the air. A lot 488 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,959 Speaker 1: of that has gone away. The sports stalk stations here 489 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: are really staggering and struggling because we've kind of become 490 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: a one franchise town. We've kind of become Jacksonville, will 491 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of become Port Loan, And that's sad considering how 492 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: big San Diego County is. Uh. I will say this 493 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: going forward that as as hard as Tom Talasco has tried, 494 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: it just can't get a break. Uh. You know, now 495 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: now losing Derwin James, their heart and soul safety who's 496 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: just a big time, big time player, is going to 497 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: hurt that defense. And that defense was slated to have 498 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: to carry this team because I think the Chargers have 499 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: become a very pedestrian offensive football team. They said goodbye 500 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: to Philip Rivers. He said goodbye to them. I was 501 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: disappointing that this guy could not finish the season here. 502 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: This was not so much on Rivers as it was 503 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: the organizations. I think let that really great quarterback down. 504 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: And I know a segment of the media would talk 505 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: and write extensively about turnovers and interceptions, But when you 506 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: got a superstar quarterback, thrown for yards was having to 507 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: do it on a wing and a prayer because his 508 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: offensive line as a disaster, or he doesn't have enough receivers, 509 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: or everybody's hurt. Uh. Rivers did as much as when 510 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: human being could do. And I was hopeful that Philip 511 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: would finish up here, but they just elected not to 512 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: do it. But by doing what they did, now they've 513 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: got but they hoped would be a very good defense. 514 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: Now it's dinged up with Derwin James gone for the year, 515 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: UH at a very pedestrian offense. And you guys know, 516 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: I know everybody who's covered these teams on the West 517 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: Coast knows you need star power to draw fans in 518 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. And I'll tell you Tyrod Taylor, who's not 519 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: star power and I need a kid is Austin necklar 520 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: As he's not star power. And now Mike Williams is hurt, 521 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: and Keenan Allen is a year away from free agency 522 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: where he could walk. Uh. And if you don't have 523 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: star power a k A Jared Golf or prior to that, 524 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, or you don't have star power Lebron and 525 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: a D and Kawai Leonard Uh you're in trouble in 526 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: terms of how you can draw. And I think this 527 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: this would be an utter embarrassment of a season if 528 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: if stadiums were open and the rams were drawn, there's 529 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: sixties six to seven or two thousand and the charges 530 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: were drawn twenty one, because that's what I think would 531 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: have happened had we not had the shutdown of most 532 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: of these stadiums around the NFL. So a long answer, 533 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of bitterness and disappointment here because 534 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: the NFL ownership in rocher Gardell let that family take 535 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: this team out of the city after this city, in 536 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: this county had put together a massive financing plan to 537 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: build a shiny new stadium in a market in which 538 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: they were king and they owned, and now they've gone 539 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: to a market where they are on the utter outside 540 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: looking in, on the periphery. They're not going to win 541 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: this year, Yeah, they're not. And Lee, I I know 542 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: you're short, so we got one more. I got one 543 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: more for you. And you mentioned the fact and it's 544 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: it's got to be tough for the guys doing sports 545 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: talk now with only one team in San Diego, and 546 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: and you have mentioned and you got a great website. 547 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: Lee Hack saw Hamilton's dot com, the old headline segment 548 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: which you dominated radio with you. You update that thing 549 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: every day. It's it's really impressive the amount of work 550 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: you put in that website. But the chances of an 551 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: NBA or NHL team coming to San Diego, there's something 552 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: going on with an arena? Is that right? What's the 553 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: latest one that way? And we'll leave you on this note. 554 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: We've been plagued in San Diego ben by really poor 555 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: governmental leadership for decades. The prime example, the Podres a 556 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: decade ago, twelve years ago, decided they were going downtown 557 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: because San Diego's check Murphy Stadium, as it was known then, 558 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: who's falling down? And the Padres decided, we're going downtown 559 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna build in the old East Village downtown 560 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: where all these warehouses used to be near the shipping factories. 561 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: And they had to fight through twenty two lawsuits, but 562 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: they got Petco Park built, and Petco Park led to 563 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: the retuber nation of the gas Lamp Quarter. And I 564 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: saw you sitting in a bar drink and I know 565 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: because I was there too, And now we know how 566 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: vibrant that gas lamp quarter cat Go Park Convention Center 567 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: area is but it was a terrible fight to get 568 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: anything accomplished. They finally got it done. The Chargers had 569 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: an opportunity to to be co owners of the shiny 570 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: new stadium on the big parking lot air Qualcomm Stadium, 571 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: which was the ideal location because it's central to all 572 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: the highways, and they refused to negotiate and they walked 573 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: away in the league let them go to l A. 574 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: It's left behind San Diego State. San Diego State is 575 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: in the process that just turned the first shovel of 576 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: dirt last week in building a thirty five thousand seat 577 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: football soccer stadium on the Qualcom site. San Diego State 578 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: has purchased the entire tract of land and that's that's 579 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna be at what they call an East Village campus 580 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: UH for expansion. That that's a thirty year project. The 581 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: stadium is the first thing that's going to be done 582 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: in two years now in the center of San Diego, 583 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: the Midway District, the Sports Arena district ban They have 584 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: just gotten city Council of approval and they've just picked 585 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: a developer to build a state of the art entertainment 586 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: district on the sports arena property in San Diego, and 587 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: that will include the sixteen thousand state of the art 588 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: arena in addition to entertainment venues, restaurants, office building, some housing, etcetera. Now, 589 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: I don't in all honesty, we needed a new arena 590 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: and I had chirped and written about it when I 591 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: was doing talk radio and writing on my website. You 592 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: gotta be progressive, You've gotta build a new sports arena 593 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: as part of this Midway district. Well, the mayor said, yes, 594 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: it has to be part of the package, and they 595 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: finally got it done. In fact, the people who built 596 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Staples Center, l A Live, the London Arena in England, 597 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Arena, the one in Berlin. This is 598 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: a e G subsidiary. They are going to build this 599 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: arena in San Diego now as part of the entertainment district. Now, 600 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: whether not it it leads us to an NBA franchise 601 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: or an NHL franchise, that might be a bit of 602 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: a reach, but you know what, sports changes, and as 603 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: markets explode and grow, you know this, this is the 604 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: eighth biggest city in America right now, so this thing 605 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: will continue to grow. Because of who we are and 606 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: where we are and by the way, what's the weather outside. 607 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: So so then I think down road anything is possible. 608 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: You could get franchises that want to relocate out of 609 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: where they are, and if you've got a shiny new 610 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: arena here, then that becomes a landing spot maybe for 611 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: an NBA or even an NHL team, because this is 612 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: a melting pot of people. The saddest part of this 613 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: whole thing is we have such a great city with 614 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: football tradition that the Spanels family turned its back on, 615 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: and we don't have a football stadium, and we don't 616 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: have the real estate now at the clocom site where 617 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: we could have built a stadium, or somebody from the 618 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 1: outside who want to move a franchise here could have 619 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: built a stadium. That real estate has gone. That's the 620 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: only negative that we've lost that entity. But we're going 621 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: to have a basketball, hockey and nan who knows what 622 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: that's going to go once they get it up. It's 623 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: not going to happen in fifteen minutes, but it's you know, 624 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: it's going to happen. Yeah. Awesomely, thank you for your time. 625 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate what have you on again and have a 626 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: great day today. Good Ben, my pleasure. Always glad to 627 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: talk to you. Keep up the good work on the network. 628 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: Too nice to shout with you again. Guys, be sure 629 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: to catch live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays 630 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific