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Speaker 1: name is ty hilden Brand has always joined by the
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Speaker 3: I'm not too bad. I'm not too bad. It's a
Speaker 3: windy day here, but life is decent. Life, life is
Speaker 3: pretty decent. I didn't have to attack any rodents today, great,
Speaker 3: which to me is a win. I uh, I'm a
Speaker 3: little bit sore from working out yesterday, but I got
Speaker 3: to watch highlights of spring games and go back and
Speaker 3: see what people think of where rosters are at, and
Speaker 3: got to come up with an especially silly and nonsensical
Speaker 3: theme for an off season show, Tye.
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Speaker 1: was a productive meeting. I can't give too much away.
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Speaker 1: do just that mentioned earlier, the theme of this show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you're excited about it. Correct, Yes, I
Speaker 1: too am excited about this concept. It may not be
Speaker 1: for everybody, yeah, but correct, But we're building to the
Speaker 1: season and a big step on that journey is what
Speaker 1: we call spring football. What we're doing right now, what
Speaker 1: we're reading about on a weekly basis right now, as
Speaker 1: we go through April, we are taking spring snapshots today,
Speaker 1: we are talking about after these games, what seems to
Speaker 1: be in focus, what seems to be still fairly blurry.
Speaker 1: And on that note, Dan, let me turn the baton
Speaker 1: over to you for a little bit more detail around
Speaker 1: what is this show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially given the time of year and given the
Speaker 3: movement across the sport with coaches and players, I think
Speaker 3: it's almost a rarity that too much is in focus.
Speaker 3: You're going to have your incumbent star quarterbacks, your Bryce Young's,
Speaker 3: your CJ. Strouds, You'll have your Clemson defensive line where
Speaker 3: it's just like, of course, it's completely in focus. What
Speaker 3: the strength, where the experience, where the talent of this
Speaker 3: team lies as a no brainer. But by and large,
Speaker 3: this is a time when a lot is blurry. And
Speaker 3: as soon as you use that word blurry, I said,
Speaker 3: I know exactly where we're going this episode thematically that
Speaker 3: will resonate with the youth of today, and that is
Speaker 3: leaning into Puddle of MUD's blurry, which doesn't really have
Speaker 3: to do with the focus as far as I can
Speaker 3: tell of college football team.
Speaker 1: No, but no. Nonetheless, we will.
Speaker 3: Talk about Puddle of Mud a little bit later because
Speaker 3: we each research puddle of mud. Why I don't know.
Speaker 3: I honestly have no clue why would we would research
Speaker 3: puddle of mud. But especially of the teams that have
Speaker 3: just had that already completed at the time of recording
Speaker 3: their spring games or whatever they call that sort of
Speaker 3: you know, the Garnet and Gold game whatever, there's still
Speaker 3: a lot that is quite and we are going to
Speaker 3: look at the open questions and haziness of a lot
Speaker 3: of these teams they head into summer workouts and eventually
Speaker 3: fall camp. The way that you wove that all together
Speaker 3: was really thank you work of art, Dan, Thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you. And again it's puddle of mud, not puddle. No,
Speaker 3: not not that, not mud puddle, No, not ud puddle. Well,
Speaker 3: thank you for laying that out there. We hope everyone
Speaker 3: is excited for this show. I know we are and
Speaker 3: on top of it. As we go through and discuss
Speaker 3: a bunch of teams that had spring action, we are
Speaker 3: also going to bring on Sam Khan of the Athletic Yes,
Speaker 3: a self proclaimed texpert, he is a senior writer. He
Speaker 3: covers all things Texas football and recruiting. Sam's going to
Speaker 3: stop by and give us a little bit more wisdom
Speaker 3: as it relates to Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: Texas A and M one of those teams, really one
Speaker 1: of those storylines we go into the twenty twenty two season,
Speaker 1: maybe just on the weight of their recruiting. G ass alone,
Speaker 1: the class that they reeled in was historic in nature,
Speaker 1: and we're hopeful, I think, just as college football fans,
Speaker 1: as people who cover the sport from afar that Jimbo
Speaker 1: Fisher can get things going. Maybe he can get a
Speaker 1: little bit more offense going downfield. We'll find out what
Speaker 1: Sam saw in that spring game. And if A and
Speaker 1: M is legit or if it's a bunch of bluster
Speaker 1: about nothing, I would argue, and I think you would
Speaker 1: agree that Texas A and M situation and place in
Speaker 1: the sport is wholly unique, wholly unique.
Speaker 3: Why do you say that Texas A and M and
Speaker 3: will get into it with Sam? I promise that they
Speaker 3: behave spend, recruit carry themselves higher, fill a stadium like
Speaker 3: expand like a traditional national power without the results. And
Speaker 3: I don't say that. I know people think, oh Dan,
Speaker 3: here's Dan hating on A and M.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 3: We get a lot of comments like that, and I sure,
Speaker 3: but it's not true, it's unique, right. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of these schools that have whether it's Alabama, Ohio State, LSU,
Speaker 3: that they have somewhat recently set a standard to set
Speaker 3: expectations at a certain level, fair or not. Whereas Texas
Speaker 3: A and M is setting a standard that they have
Speaker 3: yet to meet, which is fascinating. And I think it's
Speaker 3: only great if Texas A and M is a dominant
Speaker 3: college football team moving forward. Because it's new, and that's it.
Speaker 3: I hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
Speaker 3: on a new power. Continue when we get to the
Speaker 3: Sam interview, Does this mean that we're switching the motif
Speaker 3: of the show from puddle of MUD's blurry to want
Speaker 3: to be by the Spice Girls. No, I want to
Speaker 3: escape and move past the idea that I don't like
Speaker 3: Texas A and M. I've been to College Station, I've
Speaker 3: been to a game of Kyle Field. I had a
Speaker 3: great time there. And again, a new power in the
Speaker 3: sports is novelty, and I'm pro novelty. So I'm just
Speaker 3: curious to talk to Sam and I think he has
Speaker 3: been around the program recently and curious to hear him
Speaker 3: way in on what he sees and hears Dan, what
Speaker 3: team do you want to start out with first? Well,
Speaker 3: you took some and I took some. Let's talk about
Speaker 3: one of those powers. Let's talk about a team that
Speaker 3: played in the playoff last year, which, considering the storyline
Speaker 3: around their coach, considering the story of their line around
Speaker 3: some of the emerging talent on the team, with the
Speaker 3: upcoming draft, seems to hold at the top.
Speaker 1: I think we should talk about Michigan to start things off.
Speaker 1: How about that, Abe? Oh?
Speaker 3: Interesting, No, we can go to Cincinnati next. We'll start
Speaker 3: with the playoff teams that are on our list. Michigan
Speaker 3: is a fascinating case study. Josh Gattis leaves from Miami,
Speaker 3: I would saying Mike McEntyre Mike McDonald goes back back
Speaker 3: to the NFL to the Ravens from from WinCE from
Speaker 3: which from where he came originally. So they're replacing two
Speaker 3: full time coordinators, one of which will be Matt Weiss.
Speaker 3: Is Matt Weiss, who is a promotion from quarterbacks coach
Speaker 3: as a new offensive coordinator. Co offensive coordinator was shown
Speaker 3: more and then the new defensive coordinator comes in from Vanderbilt,
Speaker 3: also via the Ravens in Jesse minter. It's been a
Speaker 3: fascinating offseason. Jim Harbaugh, a legit finalist for the Vikings
Speaker 3: job who did not get the Vikings job seemed to
Speaker 3: badly and dearly want the Vikings job, is now back
Speaker 3: to being dedicated and loyal as the Michigan head coach
Speaker 3: after deeply wanting the Vikings head.
Speaker 1: Go here, and here's what's interesting about that. Here's what's
Speaker 1: interesting about that. Yeah, because we had said for a
Speaker 1: while it seemed as if Horball was building towards this
Speaker 1: move to the NFL to the extent where it came
Speaker 1: out that he was telling recruits the entertaining it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the Vikings thing comes up. It appears he's
Speaker 1: a finalist. Almost the second that the interview's over, he
Speaker 1: starts talking about how he's going back to college. It
Speaker 1: was a one time thing, right, Are we too believe
Speaker 1: that it's a one time thing, because and look, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to throw cold water on Jim Harbaugh going
Speaker 1: back to Michigan, building this thing up, getting back to
Speaker 1: the Big Ten championship of the playoff, nothing like that.
Speaker 1: I'm excited at that mere notion that he is staying
Speaker 1: and he's not another coach leaving for another job. I
Speaker 1: love that, right, But there's a track record with this
Speaker 1: guy that he gets nancy after he's been in a
Speaker 1: place for too long. Prior to this Michigan gig, what
Speaker 1: was it year four years that that was his longest
Speaker 1: stint at any one institution, any one team. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm fully buying in that Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 1: is now suddenly a Michigan lifer. I am buying in
Speaker 1: on this being a good thing for college football in Michigan. Yep,
Speaker 1: in terms of what's in focus, what's not in focus,
Speaker 1: Having a good InFocus head coaching situation, it's a net
Speaker 1: positive for the sport. Yes, yes, no, it absolutely is.
Speaker 1: And so Michigan is fascinating because for so long it
Speaker 1: was a sort of ground and pounds strength to the
Speaker 1: offense with okay but not amazing quarterbacks at the best,
Speaker 1: at Michigan's best. Before last year, offensively, it was a
Speaker 1: lot of success on the ground and playing that sort
Speaker 1: of like mashing game, controlling the clock, everything like that,
Speaker 1: and then dominating on defense with that Don Brown attacking defense.
Speaker 1: And now things have shifted schematically on defense and too
Speaker 1: much success last year, of course, punctuated by the Big
Speaker 1: Ten championship game and the Ohio State win. I think
Speaker 1: Michigan's fascinating. I think right now, when you look at
Speaker 1: the strengths of the team, it's hard not to say,
Speaker 1: given the change on defense, especially upfront with Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 1: and David o'jabo on their ways to the NFL, the
Speaker 1: strength of the mission team right now, if we're to
Speaker 1: believe that there should be somewhat seamless transitions at coordinator spots,
Speaker 1: it's probably the emerging talent at skill positions on offense
Speaker 1: right the guys who came on in different spots, Donovan
Speaker 1: Edwards andrel Anthony on offense. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: have an obvious powerback replacement for Hassan Haskins, but Caate
Speaker 1: McNamara certainly good enough to get this team over the
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Iowa humps to the playoff. May not
Speaker 1: have showed out against Georgia, but there's not too many
Speaker 1: guys who really showed out against the twenty twenty one
Speaker 1: Georgia defense, so I can excuse some of that. But
Speaker 1: if there is anything that Michigan was lacking last year,
Speaker 1: it was the depth of talent level to compete with
Speaker 1: the best of the sport. Now with offensive bodies emerging,
Speaker 1: there's a new freshman who performed well in the spring game,
Speaker 1: Darius Clemens, a bigger receiver. The tight end group looks
Speaker 1: very very good. Offensive line will see but I feel
Speaker 1: decent about them, and there is talent on defense. There's
Speaker 1: for sure talent on defense, especially young talent in that secondary.
Speaker 1: We'll see how the guys are who are replacing that
Speaker 1: unbelievable tandem at defensive end. But if you're a Michigan fan,
Speaker 1: knowing that Ohio State will improve this year from some
Speaker 1: of the depths to which they fell on certain areas
Speaker 1: on certain saturdays last year, I still think if you
Speaker 1: are a believer in Harbaugh's renewed focus, which I'm not
Speaker 1: fully there yet, but I can understand why Michigan people
Speaker 1: would be because you know, moved on whatever. This has
Speaker 1: to be seen as a ten plus win program right now,
Speaker 1: and so that the snapshot of them in spring, especially
Speaker 1: with more options on offense in terms of speed, in
Speaker 1: terms of talent than they've probably had since Harbaugh arrived,
Speaker 1: you probably have getting Ronnie Bell back at receiver. I
Speaker 1: just I think you gotta be pretty damn excited if
Speaker 1: you're a Michigan fan right now. I think that's fair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean gosh, to have the kind of season that
Speaker 1: they had, to know that you got your coach back.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's turnover in some key spots. That's pretty
Speaker 1: much the case for all the big programs. But you know,
Speaker 1: to finally get over that hump, I think is a
Speaker 1: pretty big deal. So if you're a Michigan fan, if
Speaker 1: you're somebody just a college football fan and maybe doesn't
Speaker 1: have a dog in the fight, I think what you're
Speaker 1: hoping for is that getting over the hump now propels
Speaker 1: them forward and leads to greater heights. I know that
Speaker 1: was always at least the theory for Notre Dame. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that truly happened, but we'll see. For Michigan.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what twenty two it's holds in store.
Speaker 3: The big thing is star power for me. For Michigan,
Speaker 3: it's the star power of the ad rushers and even
Speaker 3: just in the back end with Dax Hill and how
Speaker 3: all over the place he was. I'm extremely confident that
Speaker 3: they will have very good players. But that's not good
Speaker 3: enough right now, given that Michigan is in the present
Speaker 3: tense a playoff program, So it's the star power thing.
Speaker 3: Are they developing those guys to take over games at
Speaker 3: various position groups? Why don't we do Cincinnati?
Speaker 1: Since that's why I love you were talking about playoff program,
Speaker 1: Another playoff program. Yeah, the Cincinnati Bearcats. Cincinnati Bearcats in
Speaker 1: an interesting spot now, especially given the turnover on that roster,
Speaker 1: especially on defense. One of the things that jumped out
Speaker 1: to me just in doing some of the research on
Speaker 1: these guys. They opened the year at Arkansas. Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: which is a great opening week matchup. Maybe not for
Speaker 1: a team that's replacing quarterback what to all Americans their
Speaker 1: defensive backfield, my Jay Sanders along the line, They're going
Speaker 1: to have their work cut out for them for sure
Speaker 1: this coming season. And I think that was sort of
Speaker 1: by takeaway. If we are trying to frame this conversation
Speaker 1: in terms of what's in focus and what's blurry, really,
Speaker 1: for me, what's most in focus, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank of course, always what's most in focus is actually
Speaker 1: the blurry stuff. Interesting. I don't know if we've got
Speaker 1: any real hard answers to any of these questions, let
Speaker 1: me start there. Okay, first and foremost, des Ritter is
Speaker 1: going to be a draft pick. We talked to Nate
Speaker 1: Tice about it. Nate Tice seems to like des Ritter
Speaker 1: an awful lot. Des Ridder was there for a while.
Speaker 1: He was a successful quarterback, but now he's gone, which
Speaker 1: means that they've got to replace that position. It seems
Speaker 1: as if the job is Evan Prater's to look Okay,
Speaker 1: Evan Prater only through eleven passes last season, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but eleven passes five to eleven in total. So des
Speaker 1: Ritter walks out, you're gonna turn it over one way
Speaker 1: or another to somebody who doesn't have a whole lot
Speaker 1: of experience. Seems like it's going to be Praterer. Could
Speaker 1: also be Ben Bryant. But if I'm putting money on anybody,
Speaker 1: I think I'm putting that money on Evan Prater right now.
Speaker 1: Look fine, in the spring game, you know, not really
Speaker 1: anything to report back one way or the other. But
Speaker 1: it seems as if it's probably his job to lose offensively.
Speaker 1: Though offensively outside of you know, a couple moments at
Speaker 1: running back where there were long runs outside of I
Speaker 1: think a nice showing at tight end. The offense to me,
Speaker 1: remains a huge point of contention going into the season
Speaker 1: because they lose des Ritter, because it lose Jerome fort right,
Speaker 1: there's just a loot to replace there. And especially when
Speaker 1: you've got a week one game against team Mike Arkansas,
Speaker 1: which we know is going to be loaded. That's a problem.
Speaker 1: That's a problem that looks like a big fat l
Speaker 1: to me. On top of that, what goes on on
Speaker 1: defense is actually a little bit more troubling. So not
Speaker 1: only are you losing what could be a first round
Speaker 1: talent and des Ridder, you're also losing Sauce Gardner.
Speaker 3: Did you see, by the way, Bruce Feldman what he
Speaker 3: talked about, uh with Sauce Gardner and his opposing coaches
Speaker 3: evaluate draft prospects. He said, and I quote this is
Speaker 3: an opposing coach about Sauce Gardner. We just decided to
Speaker 3: put some slaptick receiver on that side of the field
Speaker 3: because we knew we weren't even gonna go near him,
Speaker 3: so we just threw that side of the field away offensively.
Speaker 3: It's a pretty great compliment. It's a great compliment. It
Speaker 3: really is a great compliment. And one of the things
Speaker 3: that made Sauce Gardeners so unique is his size. Sis
Speaker 3: a bigger cornerback, He's like six'. Three you just don't.
Speaker 1: Have that kind of flexibility generally if you're bigger, bodied
Speaker 1: and his ability to move like that at the cornerback
Speaker 1: spot is gonna make him a commodity on draft. Day
Speaker 1: it just. Is and certainly in the college game he
Speaker 1: was as the coach, eluded you could throw to him really.
Speaker 1: Good so not only do you Lose Sauce, gardener but
Speaker 1: you also Lose Kobe bryant in the. Secondary, now for their,
Speaker 1: part there were guys that stepped. Up Ur Kwan BUSH i,
Speaker 1: believe a senior stepped up IN i think impressive enough
Speaker 1: capacity in the spring game On Sauce gardener's side of the,
Speaker 1: Field Kobe bryant's side of the. Field Justin, harris a younger,
Speaker 1: Guy Todd, bumfiss also stepped. Up so it seems as
Speaker 1: if they have, guys and we know That Luke fickle
Speaker 1: has done a lot to build depth In, cincinnati so
Speaker 1: it's not like the cupboard is curably. Bare but to
Speaker 1: have those two guys walk out the door, too again
Speaker 1: a pair of All americans in the defensive backfield to
Speaker 1: walk out the, door there's going to be a bit
Speaker 1: of a learning. Curve and then on top of, it
Speaker 1: you've Got sanders walking out the door along your defensive.
Speaker 1: Line the pass rush is going to suffer a little.
Speaker 1: Bit mm. Hmm it's just going to suffer a little.
Speaker 1: Bit SO i think with all that being, said the
Speaker 1: takeaway on The cincinnati side was that the defense actually
Speaker 1: played pretty well in the spring, game for whatever that's. Worth,
Speaker 1: right looked, okay seemed. PROMISING i think there's room to,
Speaker 1: grow certainly with some of these new offensive, players be
Speaker 1: it at tight, end skill positions or. Otherwise quarterback's going
Speaker 1: to remain blurry until we actually see the live bullets.
Speaker 1: Flying thank, you thank. You and the only real takeaway
Speaker 1: outside of all of those really blurry things is that
Speaker 1: they've got a transfer kicker Named Ryan coe From delaware
Speaker 1: who is six three to two twenty and hit a
Speaker 1: forty eight yardfield. Goal hey that's. Good six, three two,
Speaker 1: Twenty so he's Like Sauce gardener sized at.
Speaker 3: Kicker, yeah and he looked.
Speaker 1: Ok keckle And Luke fickel had some nice things to
Speaker 1: say about him about the tough positions he could find himself.
Speaker 1: In it's good to have a guy like that at
Speaker 1: the kicker. Spot but you, know as with all Things spring,
Speaker 1: games it's tough to really gauge because it's inner squad.
Speaker 1: Scrimmage but the, questions at least in The cincinnati, SIDE
Speaker 1: i don't know if we're any closer to answering, them
Speaker 1: but at least we started to get the first part
Speaker 1: of that answer, through you, know early part of.
Speaker 3: Spring here the good news For cincinnati and this is
Speaker 3: not a part of. Spring what sort of a part of?
Speaker 3: Spring is the full list of teams in The american
Speaker 3: who appear to be kind of scary in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Two there it. Is there's the. List there's the full,
Speaker 3: list the full of teams that are threatening at this,
Speaker 3: point obviously threatening to Supplant cincinnati atop The. American so,
Speaker 3: yes you can obviously lose To houston and lose the,
Speaker 3: conference But cincinnati is recruited and has coached in such
Speaker 3: a way where they're in a good. Spot lost their offensive, coordinator,
Speaker 3: Right Mike denbrock TO. Lsu but, Yeah Evan prater well,
Speaker 3: REGARDED i think four star kid coming out of high,
Speaker 3: school big tall, guy so hopefully the falloff is minimal on.
Speaker 1: Offense give, me give me like three and a half
Speaker 1: four minutes on The arizona. Schools that's it and a.
Speaker 3: HALF i want to go deep on TO tyroa, McMillan
Speaker 3: probably like the best receiver on a likely terrible.
Speaker 1: Team, well you said you watched the HIGHLIGHTS i did
Speaker 1: from THE asu game and it weren't. Great, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: just give me the rundown on the stage BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: care about The Territorial, cup.
Speaker 3: Dude arizona is so much more interesting Than Arizona. State
Speaker 3: SO asu is in a tough. Place they started a
Speaker 3: walk on at quarterback in This they had a transfer From,
Speaker 3: Alabama Paul, tyson Who's Bear BRYAN'S i think. Grandson but
Speaker 3: they started a walk on who was, fine he's local To.
Speaker 3: Arizona the strength of This Arizona state team is likely
Speaker 3: to be upfront on. Defense they man handled the offensive,
Speaker 3: line And i'm not really you, know quick to say, like,
Speaker 3: oh this is like the clear strength of the. Team
Speaker 3: when teams are split, up, right like you can look at, like,
Speaker 3: oh the offensive line is going to. Struggle they're all
Speaker 3: beat up and you, know the starting unit was not,
Speaker 3: together so it's hard to really gauge on, that but
Speaker 3: both sides of the offensive lines really really looked bad
Speaker 3: and just allowed dudes into the backfield. Constantly SO i
Speaker 3: think the strength will probably be The Sun devil's upfront on.
Speaker 3: Defense some of the skill talent on offense is still pretty.
Speaker 3: INTERESTING i think can still play to a reasonably HIGH
Speaker 3: pac twelve. Level the problem to me is if you
Speaker 3: have enormous question marks at well depth everywhere quarterback and offensive,
Speaker 3: line it almost doesn't. Matter they were a sensational rushing
Speaker 3: team last year with those two dudes led By Rashad
Speaker 3: white now onto THE, nfl and they don't have the
Speaker 3: line to be. That they don't have the quarterback to
Speaker 3: take advantage of. That With Jayden daniels. Leaving there's interesting
Speaker 3: younger guys on the, defense BUT i just think they're
Speaker 3: too thin and to one note to really make any
Speaker 3: sort of quantifiable noise in the conference at this. Point and,
Speaker 3: look they've since twenty, fifteen they've been a five hundred
Speaker 3: ish team with more, talent with a deeper, roster and
Speaker 3: now things are falling, apart and SO i don't feel great.
Speaker 1: Here here's one of the things that jumps off the
Speaker 1: page at. You all, right, YEAH i didn't do the
Speaker 1: deep dive OF, asu but we've been following what's going
Speaker 1: on with that. Program how it feels like to some,
Speaker 1: extent it's coming apart at the. Scenes, right. Yep are
Speaker 1: you familiar with the website our lads dot? Com of,
Speaker 1: course of. Course. Yeah it's a go to resource for
Speaker 1: anybody who covers college, football anybody who care about college,
Speaker 1: football because they do all the depth charts, months, weeks
Speaker 1: sometimes years in. Advance, okay it's just what they. Do
Speaker 1: it's not always, accurate but it's close. Enough it gives
Speaker 1: you a. Gauge they've got on THE asu page a color,
Speaker 1: code as they do all roster. Pages it says purple
Speaker 1: is for top rated underclassmen or green is FOR i don't,
Speaker 1: know agreed, ME i can't even read this, thing.
Speaker 3: But, okay they've got one here for.
Speaker 1: Gold. Yeah if you see the text is in gold
Speaker 1: means it's a new, addition a graduate transfer or a.
Speaker 1: Freshman THE asu, Offense dan just the offense has, one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five six players in. Gold all, right to your point
Speaker 1: of not having great depth to your point of there
Speaker 1: being roster, turnover to the point in general OF asu
Speaker 1: feeling like it's bottoming. Out there is a lot of
Speaker 1: new new talent on this offense. Alone and so as
Speaker 1: we talked With Nate tice on our show a week
Speaker 1: ago About Rashad white and perhaps what he could bring
Speaker 1: to AN nfl roster and how we know he helped
Speaker 1: carry THAT asu offense to an extent last. Year With
Speaker 1: Jade daniels walking out the, door there are just so
Speaker 1: many new, faces not even guys who are with the,
Speaker 1: program guys who are brand new to the. Program i'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say that it's never happened before where new
Speaker 1: faces don't step in and have an immediate. Impact but
Speaker 1: this many on one team making the first team does
Speaker 1: not seem like a great formula for.
Speaker 3: Success, no it's a bit of a misery cocktail coming
Speaker 3: together In. TEMPE i, mean you have a late quarterback
Speaker 3: transfer In jade And daniels ending up AT. Lsu you
Speaker 3: have two new coordinators assistants dropping like. Flies you, know
Speaker 3: implicated in THE ncaa accusations about recruiting improprieties during twenty
Speaker 3: and you know a good amount of roster turnover twelve
Speaker 3: transfers out ten, in so they were aggressive at least
Speaker 3: in the. Portal but, MAN i just it's hard to
Speaker 3: it's hard to see things coming together to the point
Speaker 3: of going seven and, five eight and, four which is
Speaker 3: WHERE asu should.
Speaker 1: Be at minimum most.
Speaker 3: Years, NO i agree Other arizona school speaking of, transfers
Speaker 3: nineteen transfers, out which doesn't feel like an alarm as
Speaker 3: much as A this might not be the program for,
Speaker 3: You Kevin sumlin recruit situation In, tucson but there appears
Speaker 3: to be a lot of energy and a lot of
Speaker 3: juice In. Tucson not a ton of, talent but improving
Speaker 3: as As jedfish recruited especially well this, year both via
Speaker 3: the portal and you know by a high school recruiting
Speaker 3: and signing day THAT i. Mentioned the headline, RECRUIT i
Speaker 3: think he's the Biggest arizona recruit in the history of the,
Speaker 3: PROGRAM a top flight receiver from Southern california who's committed
Speaker 3: To oregon for a long time, time but When Mario christabaal,
Speaker 3: left he opened up his recruitment To. Toroa ted tyroa
Speaker 3: TE tyroa, McMillan i'll get that right known AS, tmac
Speaker 3: but they also bring In Jacob, cowing a top flight
Speaker 3: receiver FROM. Utep smaller receiver but really really. Productive it's
Speaker 3: looking like it's going to Be Jaden, dolaura who's the
Speaker 3: other big name transfer who comes in From Washington state
Speaker 3: at that starting quarterback. JOB i still have a number
Speaker 3: of QUESTIONS i guess it appears to be blurry for
Speaker 3: the parlance of this, episode about what the offensive line looks,
Speaker 3: like WHAT i guess the back half of that defense
Speaker 3: looks like at linebacker and, secondary and just what this
Speaker 3: system looks like on offense with a pretty disasters showing
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. One defensively is where they were. Strong
Speaker 3: Don brown moves on, back goes goes back to UMass
Speaker 3: and So Johnny nansen takes over the. DEFENSE i think
Speaker 3: the talent level will be raised In. Tucson it seems
Speaker 3: like there's a vacuum in the state Of arizona right
Speaker 3: now with WHERE asu. Is but there just needs to
Speaker 3: be more bold type players on this. Roster we'll see
Speaker 3: they they you, know they hit USC u c L,
Speaker 3: A michigan with some four star high school. Uh their
Speaker 3: transfers from those schools that Were Blue chippers coming out
Speaker 3: of high. School Hunter echols is a big name coming
Speaker 3: off the edge For. Arizona so slowly but. Surely and
Speaker 3: by the, way they gave away water guns to the
Speaker 3: crowd to just make it a big water party of
Speaker 3: a spring, game and there were like former players on the,
Speaker 3: sidelines spring fans like it. Was the intention was that
Speaker 3: it would be a great. Time Teddy Bruce ski's on
Speaker 3: the you, know they're just they're they're they're attempting to
Speaker 3: squeeze as much juice out of The arizona football brand as.
Speaker 1: POSSIBLE i like.
Speaker 3: It they'll probably go four in, eight but but that's
Speaker 3: better than one and. Eleven, yeah you'll take four in, eight, Right,
Speaker 3: yeah of course four and eight gets you on a
Speaker 3: show Next.
Speaker 1: April.
Speaker 3: Correct all, Right so there's your there's Your Arizona. Schools
Speaker 3: by the, way they have a freshman tie who if
Speaker 3: he ever, starts will be your new favorite. Player oh
Speaker 3: he's like five to three and he plays plays. Quarterback
Speaker 3: name Is Noah fafida and through a touchdown like he's
Speaker 3: got a good arm and he can. Move but he
Speaker 3: is a small, Dude so we'll say so There Arizona
Speaker 3: schools where do you want to go?
Speaker 1: Next, well you tell, Me i've Got, Auburn i've Got.
Speaker 1: NEBRASKA i mean we're gonna Talk, TEXAS a AND m
Speaker 1: a little bit. Later what which of those two? SCHOOLS
Speaker 1: i guess Between auburn And.
Speaker 3: Nebraska oh my, god, okay give me the dysfunctional. One,
Speaker 3: now hold, On i'm not clear. Enough uh give me
Speaker 3: the one with coaching.
Speaker 1: Uncertainty, Nope, NO i can't do that good. Enough, again
Speaker 1: need more. Specific let's go To.
Speaker 3: Nebraska i'm gonna try to be nicer About. NEBRASKA i
Speaker 3: was told in our board meeting that that is something
Speaker 3: need to improve.
Speaker 1: On so let's. Go let's Go huskers. Here, well, look
Speaker 1: this is going to be a very short. Snapshot oh,
Speaker 1: okay here is WHAT i hate about these spring. Games
Speaker 1: everybody tries to outdo one another by coming up with
Speaker 1: a goofy Kakamemi byzantine scoring. System, yeah in this, case
Speaker 1: it's one that favored the defense to the extent where
Speaker 1: you couldn't really tell how good the offense. Was, now
Speaker 1: there are scoring systems that are, bad and then there's
Speaker 1: this one which was in. Effect and everyone's played in
Speaker 1: a fantasy football league like this where the person running
Speaker 1: the league gets a little overzealous about defensive stats and
Speaker 1: what they're worth in your fantasy. League this is one
Speaker 1: of those circumstances WHERE i don't know if It's Scott,
Speaker 1: FROST i don't players d like Maybe Trev albert's got
Speaker 1: involved with. THIS i don't know who is responsible for,
Speaker 1: this but they got a little nuts with defensive. Stats
Speaker 1: it's truly like the scoring system in the fantasy league
Speaker 1: where THE i don't, know The bills get sixty points a.
Speaker 1: Week that's what happened. Here that's what happened. Here so
Speaker 1: our takeaways are. This our takeaways ARE. A nobody really got. Hurt,
Speaker 1: mark he's step hobbled off at one. POINT i think he's.
Speaker 1: Okay Maybe i'm. RIGHT i hope that's. GOOD i Hope
Speaker 1: i'm not wrong about. That but, yeah they emerged, unscathed let's, say,
Speaker 1: physically and, also the defensive line looked really.
Speaker 3: GOOD i would say they should be good on the.
Speaker 3: Edge once, again.
Speaker 1: The defensive line LOOKED i, think really solid and really,
Speaker 1: good and that was sort of a carryover from what
Speaker 1: we saw last. Season right we, NOTED i think rightfully
Speaker 1: that the offense had issues and they're still trying to
Speaker 1: piece this thing together And Adrian martinez maybe not the,
Speaker 1: answer and blah blah blah blah. Blah but defensively they looked. Okay,
Speaker 1: defensively they they were able to keep themselves in games
Speaker 1: because that side the ball actually was. Better so takeaway
Speaker 1: in this game is that the defensive line actually looked pretty.
Speaker 1: Good what is, blurry, though is pretty much so you
Speaker 1: keep catching me off, guard AND i love. IT i,
Speaker 1: KNOW i know that's the. Point What's blurry's pretty much everything? Else,
Speaker 1: okay everything else is. Blurry they played like ten quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this. Game Case, thompson your presume, Starter Casey, thompson
Speaker 1: The texas. Transfer he was in for three, drives he went,
Speaker 1: through went for two punts and a field.
Speaker 3: Goal, okay all, right but, Well scott chances did chub
Speaker 3: A party get in?
Speaker 1: There they got in, there. Everybody i'm Surprised scott for
Speaker 1: us didn't get in. There, Yeah logan's smothers got seven.
Speaker 1: Drives Chub A party got three. Drives that was just
Speaker 1: in the first. HALF a whole bunch of other guys
Speaker 1: got time in the second half as. Well, Yeah so
Speaker 1: that position, GROUP i think in particular is we didn't
Speaker 1: get a whole lot out of. It by the, way
Speaker 1: we just. Didn't we. Didn't you, know we don't really
Speaker 1: know much about. It logan's smothers had some, issues like
Speaker 1: we just didn't see, enough and because of the weird scoring,
Speaker 1: system we don't know enough to really gauge how anybody.
Speaker 1: Did but What i'll say is, this we are going
Speaker 1: to train our spotlight first and foremost on that quarterback,
Speaker 1: spot if only BECAUSE i think that has held them
Speaker 1: back the last couple of. Years everyone Likes Adrian. Martinez everyone, says,
Speaker 1: oh it's a, great great, kid, Right we're gonna root
Speaker 1: for him At Case. State, yeah BUT i think all
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks at this stage now are more talented
Speaker 1: passers Than Adrian. Martinez and so this will be the
Speaker 1: ultimate tell for Where Scott frost is. At if he
Speaker 1: truly is this offensive mastermind that we thought he could
Speaker 1: be in his time at other, stops NOTABLY, Ucf he's
Speaker 1: gonna need to find a way to turn presume Starter
Speaker 1: Casey thompson into that quarterback who could throw the ball
Speaker 1: downfield and actually get a little bit more out of this. Offense,
Speaker 1: again we didn't really like we don't. Know this is
Speaker 1: one of those spring games WHERE i DON'T i WISH
Speaker 1: i had more for. You, Right but nobody got. Hurt
Speaker 1: the story system was. Weird anybody who has ever played
Speaker 1: quarterback ever got a chance to get some reps in this.
Speaker 3: Game, Yeah Tanner, lee fresh off of His Manning Passing academy,
Speaker 3: performance probably showed out a little, bit.
Speaker 4: Right, Everybody so everybody got. Action, yeah, OKAY i WISH
Speaker 4: i had more for. You, OKAY i was reading Every nebraska.
Speaker 4: Website nobody knows. Anything it was just, like, hey nobody got. Hurt,
Speaker 4: cool here we are all?
Speaker 1: Right do you want to? Would where do you want
Speaker 1: me to? Go your?
Speaker 3: Choice do you want me to go acc With clemson
Speaker 3: Or Florida? STATE i want to stick With. Auburn, oh
Speaker 3: please continue on With.
Speaker 1: Auburn then it's been an interesting season off, SEASON i should,
Speaker 1: say so far for The Auburn. Tigers what with The
Speaker 1: Brian harrison's? Stuff mm hmm is it a? Scandal is
Speaker 1: it a? Brew? Ha?
Speaker 2: Ha what old?
Speaker 1: WAR i don't, know war of, words he, said she, said.
Speaker 1: KERFUFFLE i don't know what the terminology. Is attempted, coup
Speaker 1: attempted Coup, okay pretty, good. RIGHT i don't know what
Speaker 1: the right classification is for whatever the hell went on
Speaker 1: At auburn With Brian. Harson but he's still. There, yeah
Speaker 1: he's still. There. Now the issue is this a lot
Speaker 1: of players. Aren't, yes they had a lot they like twenty.
Speaker 1: TRANSFERS i don't know what the final number ended up.
Speaker 1: Being it's a lot of. GUYS a lot of guys
Speaker 1: left The auburn. Program they brought some guys, into but
Speaker 1: that maybe was the first tell that things were kind
Speaker 1: of going sideways for a. While it Was Tank bigsby
Speaker 1: who was also going to leave the. Program the best
Speaker 1: recruiting job it's been said That Brian harson did all
Speaker 1: off season was Keeping Tank bigsby At. Auburn, yeah And
Speaker 1: Tank bigsby looked sharp in this. Game he. Did he
Speaker 1: played more of a role in the passing. Game they
Speaker 1: Asked Brian harson after the, fact like some of the
Speaker 1: reporters on the, beat, like is this going to be a?
Speaker 1: Thing are we going to see more Of Tank bigsby
Speaker 1: in the passing? Game he sort of he threw cold
Speaker 1: water on. It but conventional wisdom would hold that if
Speaker 1: you've got your best, player In Tank, bigsby and if
Speaker 1: he is open in the passing, game you'll find a
Speaker 1: way to get in the. Ball they should find a
Speaker 1: way to get him the ball as much as. Possible
Speaker 1: SO i don't know if that's going to be part
Speaker 1: of the. Plan they've got a new offensive, coordinator but
Speaker 1: it should be part of the plan if it's not,
Speaker 1: already because It's tank Bigs he's really freaking, good of,
Speaker 1: course so he looked. Good THAT i think is as
Speaker 1: big time positive the passing game as a. Whole So
Speaker 1: Zach calzada still recovering from his shoulder. Injury he was
Speaker 1: the big transfer IN i think he is the presumed.
Speaker 1: Starter but we didn't get to see any Of calzada
Speaker 1: in this. Game we did get to see more OF.
Speaker 3: Tj, finley, right who did start and nearly Beat alabama
Speaker 3: to whatever whatever that, means given the weirdness of that
Speaker 3: game is something could have Beat bama on one leg
Speaker 3: if they went for two and didn't likely, True.
Speaker 1: But, YEAH. Tj findley looked more. Comfortable good look more.
Speaker 1: Comfortable they had him more out of the, pocket they
Speaker 1: did more in the rollout passing. Game, good which as
Speaker 1: anyone who has Followed auburn with a much, better much,
Speaker 1: more much higher degree of granularity than, you AND i
Speaker 1: will note that that's just not something they did last.
Speaker 1: Year last year it was Bow nixt dropped. Back if
Speaker 1: a guy's, open, Great if, not, siya he's pulling a
Speaker 1: picket and he's gonna run one and. Done, yeah the
Speaker 1: rollout pass the game isn't all that, Inventive, dan but
Speaker 1: he'll take it. Right. Yeah, now what remains to be
Speaker 1: seen is How Zach calzada will eventually function in this.
Speaker 1: Offense that that's what remains. Blurry obviously he didn't get any.
Speaker 1: Snaps so to what end is he going to fit
Speaker 1: in and look the part and be worth all the?
Speaker 1: HUBBUB i don't you. Know we don't. Know we just.
Speaker 3: Don't is he considered like In auburn, circles like the
Speaker 3: assumed starter that he that's a role that is being
Speaker 3: warmed for?
Speaker 1: Him, okay SO i think. So and again you know
Speaker 1: WHERE i stand On. Calzata, Yeah i'm not totally convinced
Speaker 1: that he's gonna better than what they had, before or
Speaker 1: even an.
Speaker 3: UPGRADE i THINK i think the best of Bow nicks
Speaker 3: was more consistently uh, uh confidence inspiring than any LIKE i. Know,
Speaker 3: Look Zack calzada made huge throws to help to Beat.
Speaker 3: ALABAMA i get, that but the you, know the best
Speaker 3: three or four games Of Bo nicks was definitely better
Speaker 3: than the best three or four games Of zach Cals
Speaker 3: odda to Make.
Speaker 1: Zach calzada's win Over alabama is doing a lot of heavy. Lifting,
Speaker 1: yes of course a lot as. Well it should mm,
Speaker 1: hmm but tread lightly on that. One don't don't put
Speaker 1: too many eggs in That zach kelzatda basket. Anyway that's
Speaker 1: either here nor. There we didn't see. Him the OFFENSE
Speaker 1: i think showed some flashes and folks were excited about,
Speaker 1: that certainly with tank bigsby your Boy Robbie. Ashford, Dan,
Speaker 1: yeah he showed out The oregon Transfer Robbie. Ashford he you,
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't think he's gonna really be in the
Speaker 1: mix Between calzada AND. Tj, Finley BUT i think he's From, alabama,
Speaker 1: right he. Is he's.
Speaker 3: Local it was a two sports. Star is is especially,
Speaker 3: athletic perhaps in ways that the two of those guys are.
Speaker 3: Not here's the, thing, Though, TY i didn't watch The
Speaker 3: auburn spring. GAME i didn't read up on The auburn spring,
Speaker 3: game so forgive my authority that has nothing behind. It
Speaker 3: but if you're a promising, quarterback WHICH i Think Robbie
Speaker 3: ashford is, promising not, proven what's ahead of him At
Speaker 3: auburn is not all that. Secure like if you are
Speaker 3: simply enticing athletically in a playmaker and you HAVE. Tj
Speaker 3: finley And Zach calzada in front of, YOU i don't
Speaker 3: think it's insane to think Maybe Robbie ashford is the
Speaker 3: guy twelve.
Speaker 1: Sixteen passing one hundred and thirty two. Yards he showed
Speaker 1: some of that athleticism that you allude, to and he's
Speaker 1: got a kin for an, arm got good. ARM i don't.
Speaker 1: Know stranger things have, happened, man.
Speaker 3: BUT i guess the same could be said of wasn't
Speaker 3: good enough to beat Out Anthony brown last herefore, again
Speaker 3: AND i don't think he was good enough to beat
Speaker 3: out number two or number three behind, It Anthony. Brown
Speaker 3: so there's that as.
Speaker 1: Well the other thing that's very blurry on The auburn
Speaker 1: side is, defense especially up. Front, yeah especially. Upfront so
Speaker 1: there's not only a new offensive, coordinator there is a
Speaker 1: new defensive. Coordinator Jef schmedding was the linebackers coach For
Speaker 1: auburn last, season was the defensive coordinator For Brian harson
Speaker 1: in his time At Boise. State he's got his work
Speaker 1: cut out for. HIM i don't know how else to put.
Speaker 1: It there is an issue with depth, upfront and as
Speaker 1: we know from doing this for a good long, time
Speaker 1: if you've got depth issues up front in THE sec on,
Speaker 1: defense that's a. Problem, yeah that's a. Problem SO i
Speaker 1: could go about a thousand different ways With auburn this coming. Season,
Speaker 1: again it's a spring. Game there's only so much that
Speaker 1: we could really glean from. This but the fact that
Speaker 1: some of those depth issues and some of those production
Speaker 1: concerns on that defensive, line we're already showing a little.
Speaker 1: BIT i don't envy that defensive job That auburn's got
Speaker 1: in front of it this coming. Season may they'll proved me,
Speaker 1: wrong but, YEAH i, mean there was there was a.
Speaker 1: Reason Nate tice last week on our show talked about
Speaker 1: how What Derek mason was able to do with not
Speaker 1: necessarily frontline talent was especially creative and interesting in the
Speaker 1: way he attacked certain. Offenses Derek mason of, course now
Speaker 1: on To Oklahoma. STATE i believe for a pay.
Speaker 3: Cut, no there was just not maybe necessarily a behind
Speaker 3: the scenes, fit is what it sounds. Like so, yeah you,
Speaker 3: know three defensive coordinators in three years not ideal for
Speaker 3: continuity and growth in a.
Speaker 1: Scheme all, right let's go To let's go To Florida
Speaker 1: state And. CLEMSON i believe we Have Florida state And,
Speaker 1: clemson so two teams THAT i THINK i might be
Speaker 1: more interested in this season than at any point in,
Speaker 1: gosh maybe the last five, Years, dan maybe the last five.
Speaker 1: Years because here's. Why here's, why before you jump, in
Speaker 1: show your. Work clemson went ten and two last or
Speaker 1: ten and three whatever it was last, year ten to,
Speaker 1: two whatever their final record, was it won double digits
Speaker 1: and they ten, THREE i believe ten to. Three they
Speaker 1: pulled it, TOGETHER i think, admirably so mm. Hmm but
Speaker 1: there were real questions about that, team Especially djus. Quarterback
Speaker 1: they had a litany of injuries that they had to
Speaker 1: deal with all year, long which didn't. Help there was
Speaker 1: a lot of turnover from the year, before so they
Speaker 1: were dealing with a bunch of, stuff and now on
Speaker 1: top of, it the coaching staff, thing the athletic department.
Speaker 1: Thing this is very much a reboot on a number
Speaker 1: of different levels For Dabos. Swiney how will he handle
Speaker 1: that he hasn't had to deal with that. Previously that's
Speaker 1: the first, thing and that's the one thing For clemson
Speaker 1: That i'm very interested. In on The Florida state, SIDE
Speaker 1: i can't figure out what to make of The Mike
Speaker 1: norvellira so. FAR i, like just when it feels like
Speaker 1: the thing is, dead as it felt early in the,
Speaker 1: season they kind of turn it around and they get
Speaker 1: to the precipice of qualifying for A. BOWL i never
Speaker 1: thought That Jordan travis would be the answer at, quarterback
Speaker 1: but of the guys that they, had he seemed to
Speaker 1: be the one with the most Promised so there's like,
Speaker 1: REASON i think to feel like this team fights hard for.
Speaker 1: Him but at the same, time there are plenty of
Speaker 1: reasons to have him on the hot. Seat and this
Speaker 1: is a pivotal year if you're A Florida state, fan
Speaker 1: if you're watching Close Mike, Norvelleira.
Speaker 3: Yeah there's a lot that's quite interesting About Florida state
Speaker 3: on both sides of the. Ball, Obviously Jordan travis returns
Speaker 3: and assumingly we'll take the next step and succeeding a
Speaker 3: little bit more. Downfield obviously he is a playmaker and
Speaker 3: a dual. Threat they're in good. Shape the running back
Speaker 3: room looks to be in decent. Shape offensive line is
Speaker 3: it keeps taking steps. Forward it's not the deepest offensive.
Speaker 3: Line it's not the offensive line filled with the most
Speaker 3: star power of the teams that we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about in these spring snap. Shots but from where it
Speaker 3: was a year, ago two years, ago three years, ago
Speaker 3: which was just a downright and abject, mess it's not that.
Speaker 3: Anymore it's. Okay so if there's continued improvement. There there's
Speaker 3: experience in the receiver. ROOM i don't know if there
Speaker 3: is top level star power in the receiving. Room but on,
Speaker 3: DEFENSE i, mean defense is going to probably lead this.
Speaker 3: Team they've recruited especially well on. Defense there's a lot
Speaker 3: of talent on that defensive. Backfield it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: question of doing the little things of you, know seeing
Speaker 3: which recruits are the ones that are able to step
Speaker 3: up and the acc is not a murderer's row at this.
Speaker 3: Point but they had a couple of interesting transfers actually From, oregon.
Speaker 3: Right Micah pittman comes in was a contributing part of
Speaker 3: the a good receiving cour At. Oregon he comes in
Speaker 3: with a lot of experience both at receiver and in
Speaker 3: the return. Game Trey benson looks like he's gonna have
Speaker 3: a pretty big impact in that running back. Room big
Speaker 3: running back that should be able to take some of
Speaker 3: the pressure off Of Jordan. Travis but there's there's good
Speaker 3: options at running back as. Well and so For Florida
Speaker 3: state at this, point they hit the portal extremely. Hard
Speaker 3: that was a big deal to plug gaps through the.
Speaker 3: Portal they brought in a pretty sizable edge rusher From. Albany,
Speaker 3: Tye what do you know About albany? Football Jared? Verse Jared. Verse,
Speaker 3: yes so they bring In Jared verse From, albany so
Speaker 3: trying to get after the quarterback a little bit more
Speaker 3: Via Jared. Verse, YEAH i think it's once, AGAIN i,
Speaker 3: mean broken. Record but if the offensive line is simply
Speaker 3: not talked, about that's a huge.
Speaker 1: WIN i feel like we've been talking about The Florida
Speaker 1: state offensive line like it's the one Hundred Years. War
Speaker 1: it just never, ends and that's kind to be so
Speaker 1: frustrating if you're A Florida state, fan if you're on the, team.
Speaker 3: They're definitely a ball team If Jordan travis is upright and,
Speaker 3: Look Alex atkins steps in For Kenny. Dillingham SO i
Speaker 3: guess talking About oregon even more moves Onto oregon to
Speaker 3: call plays and run that offense for The. Ducks Randy
Speaker 3: shannon is now co defensive coordinator With Adam, fuller so
Speaker 3: a lot of familiarity there with The state and the recruiting,
Speaker 3: trail AND i Expect Florida state to continue to be
Speaker 3: a player in the portal post spring as, well because
Speaker 3: they are looking to infuse this roster with as much
Speaker 3: experienced talent as as humanly possible in a pretty open
Speaker 3: acc all things considered right, now because pitt is not
Speaker 3: going to be where they were last year Without Mark
Speaker 3: whipple And Kenny. Pickett SO i don't know we can
Speaker 3: get Into clemson. Now But Florida, STATE i think is
Speaker 3: in a decent place trajectory. WISE i Like Florida.
Speaker 1: STATE i liked them last. YEAR i don't recall IF
Speaker 1: i liked them to get to a bowl. GAME i
Speaker 1: feel like it was still a little bit too. SOON
Speaker 1: i feel like at the TIME i did the preview year,
Speaker 1: AGO i was saying twenty twenty, two twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: would be the. Year it would be the. Year SO
Speaker 1: i don't, know we'll, See but given the way that
Speaker 1: they overcame the early part of their season and actually
Speaker 1: ended up playing a feisty brand of football down the,
Speaker 1: STRETCH i think that that bodes well for the coaching,
Speaker 1: staff Right, Yeah AND i know for whoever's.
Speaker 3: In, Charge Alex atkins is especially well liked within that.
Speaker 3: Program as he assends, TOO i mean STILL i think
Speaker 3: running the offensive, line but offensive, coordinator AND i always
Speaker 3: just have a soft spot for when offensive coordinators have
Speaker 3: a line background about lines being especially improving and taught.
Speaker 3: Well and so hopefully that's the case With atkins In Florida,
Speaker 3: state BECAUSE i would love to not talk about The
Speaker 3: Florida state.
Speaker 1: Ohensive line this. Year, yeah it'd be. Wonderful tell me About.
Speaker 1: Clemson what's going on?
Speaker 3: With speaking of hoping to not talk about an offensive,
Speaker 3: Line so unfair to talk about the offensive line as
Speaker 3: a major issue from this spring, game even though the
Speaker 3: defensive lines in this game completely dominated because both starting
Speaker 3: tackles were out in this. One but you, know if
Speaker 3: you polled one Hundred clemson fans about where they have fallen,
Speaker 3: behind offensive line is still in that. Conversation the offensive
Speaker 3: line For, clemson once a, strength once a point of,
Speaker 3: pride was dominated far more often last year than they
Speaker 3: had been in years past and was an issue opening
Speaker 3: things up for the, offense opening up lanes in the
Speaker 3: run game and Protecting. Dju it's a work in. Progress
Speaker 3: this offense is a work in. Progress, obviously losing both
Speaker 3: Coordinators Todd bates was a huge loss on. Defense as an,
Speaker 3: assistant he goes over To oklahoma With Brent venables and
Speaker 3: so a lot of change At. Clemson they lose ten
Speaker 3: guys to, transfer bringing in but one transfer in In Hunter,
Speaker 3: johnson who was already there and didn't make a huge
Speaker 3: market quarterback At, northwestern of, course and So dju loses
Speaker 3: a bunch of, weight which is one of my favorite.
Speaker 3: Things you, know as far as offseason stories. GO i
Speaker 3: don't know how losing weight helps in the passing, game
Speaker 3: but if it's something that was part of him becoming
Speaker 3: more fundamentally sound and really locking in to do a better,
Speaker 3: Job i'm all for.
Speaker 1: It i'm all for.
Speaker 3: It still had some accuracy issues still with sailing balls
Speaker 3: at times did connect a little. Bit, YEAH i don't
Speaker 3: think the receiving room is as TANTALIZING i would say
Speaker 3: as The clemson receiving room has been these past ten.
Speaker 3: Years but only Guys Joe, nagata guys like, that you,
Speaker 3: know have have had promise for quite some, time but
Speaker 3: are yet to fully fully come through dealing with a
Speaker 3: lot of injuries on both sides of the. Ball you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i think the, secondary especially the youth of the,
Speaker 3: secondary will be very interesting come. Fall you, know they
Speaker 3: were dealing with injuries there as. Well Will shipley was.
Speaker 3: Out so there's not a lot of. Absolutes there is
Speaker 3: a lot that's very blurry so about This clemson.
Speaker 1: Program but.
Speaker 3: If dju is not the Guy caid Club nick has
Speaker 3: the makings, of AND i you you already have started this.
Speaker 3: Train you have started accepting. Tickets you are loading passengers
Speaker 3: for The clemson Cad. Club nick trains is the club
Speaker 3: club is this club club, club, well the club, lounge
Speaker 3: the club. Level there's also the things we can.
Speaker 1: Do, yeah, yeah we're gonna have to spin something up
Speaker 1: and workshop that by the TIME cag.
Speaker 3: Club, Yeah i'm not there yet BECAUSE i hate throwing
Speaker 3: the weight of expectations on a true freshman at quarterback
Speaker 3: at a place with the kind of expectations That clemson.
Speaker 1: Rate of your college football, PODCAST i know that's what we.
Speaker 3: Hate IT'S, dna come, ON i, know And clemson, fans you,
Speaker 3: know in their defense what they've seen from true freshman
Speaker 3: this past. Decade why wouldn't you? Sure but you, Know
Speaker 3: i'd like to see to see more from him a
Speaker 3: little bit in live action Before i'm, like, oh this
Speaker 3: is obvious that he's the, DUDE, dj you need to
Speaker 3: get better he you, know in terms of decision. MAKING
Speaker 3: i know his footwork looks a little bit. STRONGER i
Speaker 3: watched that you know, whatever it's called The orange And white.
Speaker 1: Game But i'm not there with. HIM i step on
Speaker 1: into the club, level my, FRIEND i, know, clubs, suite
Speaker 1: step on in, yeah.
Speaker 3: And then essentially we become a club, sandwich will become
Speaker 3: the two sides Of, Okay i'm not going down that.
Speaker 3: ROAD i just immediately regret. It, SURE i THINK, dj
Speaker 3: you can be. FINE i you, know the confidence and
Speaker 3: assertiveness in the past. GAME i don't know if that
Speaker 3: can be you, know locked in on after two or three.
Speaker 3: Years if it's not. There that's my concern for him
Speaker 3: that by NOW i feel LIKE i want More and
Speaker 3: that's not a great.
Speaker 1: Sign but it's.
Speaker 3: Spring it's spring once, again and dealing with the, injuries
Speaker 3: dealing with playing not behind the real offensive. Line he'll
Speaker 3: be playing with you know this promise at, receiver promise
Speaker 3: at tight, end, depth running.
Speaker 1: Back we'll.
Speaker 3: SEE i JUST i wanted a little. MORE i wanted
Speaker 3: A sunday AND i got a half a?
Speaker 1: Scoop how about?
Speaker 3: That so, YEAH i mean they're gonna be bonkers up
Speaker 3: front on. Defense, Ty they're just gonna be absolutely. Berserk
Speaker 3: and that's honestly good enough for a lot of wins
Speaker 3: in THE acc right now in college. Unmatched yeah, there
Speaker 3: it's just going to be just. Insane so that's great for.
Speaker 3: Them but, yeah little to you, know starting over at
Speaker 3: coordinator and having quarterback questions is not a wonderful. Cocktail
Speaker 3: but you, know Some clemson fans happy to See Tony
Speaker 3: elliott move. On they had grown a little bit wary
Speaker 3: of where The clemson offense had fallen.
Speaker 1: To we'll, say we'll, see why don't we Talk TEXAS
Speaker 1: a AND. M i would love to here to help
Speaker 1: us dissect all Things TEXAS a AND, m at least
Speaker 1: as we know. It here in early to Mid, april
Speaker 1: from the athletic Mister Sam Khn, Junior, sir how are you?
Speaker 2: Good how are you? Guys?
Speaker 1: Wonderful we're doing. Well so we had every intention of
Speaker 1: talking to you solely about The TEXAS a AND M spring,
Speaker 1: Game but AS i understand, it you did have an.
Speaker 1: Opportunity you came from an, interview quite, literally an interview
Speaker 1: with Coach Jimbo. Fisher how did that?
Speaker 2: Go just like Every Jimbo fisher interview, goes which, is
Speaker 2: you ask a question and then he goes off for
Speaker 2: a couple of minutes and talks at a rapid speed
Speaker 2: with a lot of. Information it may be a mix
Speaker 2: of last names of guys And jersey numbers of, guys
Speaker 2: and then a little tangent in the middle here That
Speaker 2: i'm going to chase down the rabbit, Hole but OTHERWISE
Speaker 2: i end up eventually answering the. Question so, uh very.
Speaker 2: Productive like LIKE i was saying, earlier twenty five minutes
Speaker 2: with him is like.
Speaker 1: An hour or so with just about anybody. Else just
Speaker 1: because of the speed of which he. Speaks it's listening
Speaker 1: to a podcast at TWO x that's, right, oh without,
Speaker 1: question without. Question, No i'm a one point five. Guy
Speaker 1: but is that?
Speaker 4: True?
Speaker 2: Yeah so IF i had, to IF i had to
Speaker 2: listen To, JIMBO i Think i'd have to sol down
Speaker 2: a normal.
Speaker 3: Speed, ty can we speak faster For sam to make
Speaker 3: him more? Comfortable CAN i, say, Like, Okay, sam tease
Speaker 3: out what you're going to talk about when you talk About?
Speaker 3: Jimbo when you talk About? Jimbo is it going to
Speaker 3: be a? Podcast is it going to be A, okay
Speaker 3: what can you tease out what it is you're going
Speaker 3: to do with the information that you've. Learned is it
Speaker 3: going to be? Podcast is it going to be a?
Speaker 3: Feature is it going to be a transcribed? Interview like
Speaker 3: let the people know that they should be subscribing To The.
Speaker 2: Athletic, sure, absolutely, yes that definitely subscribe to The athletic
Speaker 2: because we, got in my, opinion the best college football
Speaker 2: written coverage in the. Country but nice we we we
Speaker 2: start Our state of The pro series that we do every,
Speaker 2: year the deep dive on every team in The power
Speaker 2: five and several of the top group of five teams
Speaker 2: that starts later this. Month april twenty fifth is the first,
Speaker 2: day and we kick it off With TEXAS a AND.
Speaker 2: M so, yeah so they just finished spring ball about
Speaker 2: five days ago and six days, ago AND i visited
Speaker 2: With jimbo post spring and so they are our first
Speaker 2: one out of the. Shoot so we got that wrapped
Speaker 2: up And i'll spend the next few days putting this,
Speaker 2: together turn it in next, week and then we'll run
Speaker 2: it out On april twenty, Fifth so we'll start our
Speaker 2: and we'll have one every day running From april twenty,
Speaker 2: fifth or at least every. WEEKDAY i THINK i should every.
Speaker 2: DAY i don't think it's JUST i think every day
Speaker 2: From april twenty fifth all the way THROUGH i believe
Speaker 2: it is early Mid july up until media days. Basically
Speaker 2: so it is a lot of work and there's a
Speaker 2: lot of effort to put those together because we're going
Speaker 2: we go really, deep we go position by, position, recruiting coaching,
Speaker 2: changes the whole. Bit but the fans seem to like,
Speaker 2: them and, honestly for us and for me, personally it's
Speaker 2: tremendous preseason prep because every one of these THAT i
Speaker 2: do on a TEAM i feel LIKE i know that
Speaker 2: team up and down the roster.
Speaker 3: Definitely, Okay so let let's start. There after spring. Practice
Speaker 3: we just had THE a AND m spring. Game what
Speaker 3: is the general feeling inside the football offices about where
Speaker 3: this team. STANDS i, mean we can go position by,
Speaker 3: position but generally, speaking what are the big questions that
Speaker 3: the coaches have and where are THE i guess the
Speaker 3: comforts that the coaches.
Speaker 1: Have, yeah a few.
Speaker 2: SPOTS i guess where your most, comfortable believe it or.
Speaker 2: NOT i think you're probably most comfortable in defensive. Line,
Speaker 2: okay because, yes they graduated all these great guys To Marvin,
Speaker 2: Leal jaden Peve Tyree. Johnson all these guys were super
Speaker 2: super productive last. Year but you guys know where they just,
Speaker 2: signed which they signed eight elite defensive linemen in this
Speaker 2: in this. Class but they also have been signing high
Speaker 2: level defensive lineman the last two three. Years and so
Speaker 2: you've got a guy Like Fidel diggs who lashed really
Speaker 2: well in the spring. Game and then you've got A
Speaker 2: Shamar turner who was a five star in the previous,
Speaker 2: class who can play both of its tackle defensive. End
Speaker 2: so you have numbers there that's that's the. Spot you
Speaker 2: feel really good, Cornerback you feel really really good running.
Speaker 2: Back you have one of the fastest guys in the,
Speaker 2: Country devon A, chain who is a national qualifier in
Speaker 2: the hundred meter. Dash you feel good about. That you
Speaker 2: feel good about the, option you have a. Receiver but,
Speaker 2: overall in the big picture of this, program the bottom line,
Speaker 2: is AND i asked us to jimbo, is do you
Speaker 2: feel like you have enough talent at this point in
Speaker 2: the building and the culture is where you want that
Speaker 2: buzzword culture that coaches always. Use are you at a
Speaker 2: place now where you can't annually contend for AN sec,
Speaker 2: TITLE Sec west title And College football? Playoff and he, said,
Speaker 2: yeah that is that is the. Goal and we do
Speaker 2: feel like from a talent, standpoint the roster is. There
Speaker 2: he's got the infrastructure in the building the way he wants,
Speaker 2: It things are running the way he wants, it and
Speaker 2: so they are now a.
Speaker 1: Team.
Speaker 2: NOW i look at the schedule AND i think it's
Speaker 2: a tough. Schedule SO i don't know if this is
Speaker 2: the year to peg them AS Sec west champions or playoff.
Speaker 2: CONTENDER i think me, PERSONALLY i think it's a twenty
Speaker 2: three for them IS i think more of the. Year
Speaker 2: but you look at the talent that they have on
Speaker 2: hand the last four classes they've. Signed he's this now
Speaker 2: his fifth season that he's. Entering this is a program
Speaker 2: that is moving in that direction to probably soon join
Speaker 2: the college football, elite just because just by your, talent to,
Speaker 2: me they're compiling enough talent to where they're gonna have
Speaker 2: to be in that conversation.
Speaker 3: Soon they're an interesting team and an interesting program because
Speaker 3: it's almost impossible to describe any position group or any
Speaker 3: important situation within the team without. Yeah But, yeah they're,
Speaker 3: talented but they haven't done.
Speaker 1: It.
Speaker 3: Yeah Max johnson has won big, games but he's also
Speaker 3: looked shaky at. Times, Yeah Haines king won the, job
Speaker 3: but he hasn't. Played, yeah you, Know Connor wegman is all,
Speaker 3: everything but he's a. Freshman where are the biggest yeah
Speaker 3: butts at this, point as you now are, saying twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three is the, year but we're talking about the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two. Season what are the question marks and
Speaker 3: how likely are they to be answered with any sort
Speaker 3: of speed early on in the. Season i'll love the
Speaker 3: way you put that BECAUSE i THINK i think twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two is a, yeah but year, yeah, essentially that
Speaker 3: is what this is BECAUSE i think they'll be a
Speaker 3: little bit better than they were a year, ago BUT
Speaker 3: i don't see them as a playoff. Team quarterback is a,
Speaker 3: spot that's a. Yeah but they're better than they were
Speaker 3: at quarterback a year ago because the. DEPTH i, mean
Speaker 3: they had two scholarship guys and one of them broke
Speaker 3: his leg in the second game of the.
Speaker 2: Year so right now you have three With Max johnson
Speaker 2: who has bona fide sec, starts which they had nobody
Speaker 2: in the room that had. That last. Year you Got
Speaker 2: king who won the starting, job and you Got Connor
Speaker 2: wagman who's a true freshman five star. Recruit but it's
Speaker 2: going to take, time and we know how jimbo, is
Speaker 2: we know how it takes time for quarterbacks that did
Speaker 2: just that, offense and it takes time for them to master.
Speaker 2: It so that's a. Yeah BUT i think they feel
Speaker 2: good at running. Back BUT i still WOULD i still
Speaker 2: am yeah butt on the depth there because the, guys you,
Speaker 2: Know Isaiah, SPILLER i feel like was an underappreciated guy.
Speaker 2: Nationally he was a reliable thousand yard guy every year for.
Speaker 2: Them he's not there. Anymore DEVON i THINK i have
Speaker 2: no problem thinking that he can carry the, Load but
Speaker 2: it's who's the next guy after? That Is Anayah smith
Speaker 2: going to be that guy that goes back and get
Speaker 2: some more carries because he's been a receiver really the last.
Speaker 2: Year is he going to be a factor in the
Speaker 2: backfield these? Receivers you Got smith the, yeah but is,
Speaker 2: okay who do you have on the outside to be
Speaker 2: a vertical threat to beat you down the? Field they
Speaker 2: haven't really had. That Demon demas was supposed to be that.
Speaker 2: Guy he's not on the team. Anymore Is Evan stewart
Speaker 2: the five star? Recruit that guy is some of these
Speaker 2: other freshmen that they're bringing. In are those possibilities the
Speaker 2: left side of the offensive, line that's a, Yeah but
Speaker 2: because you graduated your left, tackle you graduated your left.
Speaker 2: Guard you, Know Kenyon, Green Jamior johnson no longer, there
Speaker 2: so you've got to fill those two. SPOTS i think
Speaker 2: the rest of that line you, feel, okay you're, graduating
Speaker 2: sorry not, graduating but your tight ends going to the.
Speaker 2: Draft Jalen, widermeyer that's another. One you've got to answer that.
Speaker 2: Question is it going to Be Jake johnson the, Freshman
Speaker 2: is it going to be one of these other veterans
Speaker 2: that's been. Around are those guys dynamic enough to be
Speaker 2: What widermeyer? Was and then the other spot on, DEFENSE
Speaker 2: i think you feel good about numbers on defense. Linebackers
Speaker 2: the one WHERE i feel like is a little bit
Speaker 2: of question in terms of Thin you've got really good
Speaker 2: numbers at defensive. Line you've got really good numbers in
Speaker 2: the defensive backfield, linebacker even though they really only play
Speaker 2: two for the most. Part that's the one where they
Speaker 2: DON'T i think have a stalwart right. Now they don't
Speaker 2: have A Buddy, johnson they don't Have Aaron hansford who
Speaker 2: was last. Year these are all mostly unproven. Guys guys
Speaker 2: who have, played but they're, unproven AND i don't know
Speaker 2: that the depth there is quite what they want it to.
Speaker 1: Be, sam let me go, back IF i could for a,
Speaker 1: second to the quarterback, spot because anything you read about
Speaker 1: The TEXAS a AND m spring, game it starts with
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Thing Max johnson comes, Over dan said. Earlier
Speaker 1: you know he's been up and. Down he certainly had
Speaker 1: his moments thirteen of thirty. One in this, game he
Speaker 1: had two, touchdowns one of which went To Evan, stewart
Speaker 1: five star talent that you mentioned. Earlier it seemed as
Speaker 1: if Generally Max johnson had pretty good control of the,
Speaker 1: offense had a long, run WHICH i think people were
Speaker 1: pretty excited. About but Beyond Max, johnson WHO i think
Speaker 1: is going to get a lot of the press going
Speaker 1: into the new, season you've got The Haines king. Thing
Speaker 1: you've got The Connor wegman. Thing Haines, king as he,
Speaker 1: said won the job at the start of last, year got,
Speaker 1: hurt played in this, game didn't look all that. Great
Speaker 1: still showed that propensity for turnovers in the spring, game
Speaker 1: which is something that plagued him in that the one
Speaker 1: game we saw against Ken state where he threw through
Speaker 1: three picks right and then on The Connor wegman side a,
Speaker 1: FRESHMAN i think everybody's very excited About Connor. WEGMAN a
Speaker 1: lot has yet to be known About Connor, wegman but
Speaker 1: one of the things THAT i KNOW i liked from
Speaker 1: WHAT i saw was the fact that he threw down,
Speaker 1: fields like six of his seven completions went for more
Speaker 1: than ten. Yards something like. That in, general this was
Speaker 1: an offense that in this spring game threw downfield a
Speaker 1: little bit, more which is something THAT i Know jimbo
Speaker 1: has tried to address. Here SO i guess with regard
Speaker 1: to the guys Behind Max, johnson presumably Behind Max, johnson
Speaker 1: what is the early feel about how that sort of
Speaker 1: depth shakes out on the quarterback.
Speaker 2: SIDE i, mean, certainly LIKE i, said a lot better
Speaker 2: than was a year, ago which is huge for them
Speaker 2: because they really weren't a tenuous spot where they were
Speaker 2: had to play a walk on at times last, year
Speaker 2: especially when When calzada had like he had the injury
Speaker 2: in The alabama game and then he had to come
Speaker 2: out for a play or what have, you and you,
Speaker 2: had like boast to walk on who's still there by the,
Speaker 2: way having to play snaps and had that bowl, GAME
Speaker 2: i would have been interested to see how the bowl
Speaker 2: game would have turned, out because you Know knes wasn't
Speaker 2: all the way back And klzada had. Transferred But, max
Speaker 2: like you, said we've seen what he can. Do it'll
Speaker 2: be interesting to see what he can do in this.
Speaker 2: Offense Haines, KING i think is the interesting one to
Speaker 2: me in the wild card in this because he won
Speaker 2: the job last. Year jimbo clearly loves. HIM i think
Speaker 2: he loves. Him he calls him a. Throwback and When
Speaker 2: jimbo gives you the throwback, LABEL i meaning like you're
Speaker 2: a nineteen seventies, player that means he loves you to.
Speaker 2: Death so he Loves, haines And, haines by all accounts
Speaker 2: says even from last, year dating back to last, offseason
Speaker 2: did a really good job in ingratiating himself with the.
Speaker 2: Team you, know winning stuff in winter workouts on a regular,
Speaker 2: basis developing a relationship not just with his his teammates
Speaker 2: offensively but defensively as. Well he's got all those. Characteristics
Speaker 2: and his physical gifts are. Great, obviously can throw it
Speaker 2: sub four five forty guy really really super. Fast the biggest,
Speaker 2: question which is one you, pose is. Turnovers can he
Speaker 2: take care of the, Ball and he did turn it
Speaker 2: over in the spring, game AND i think that is
Speaker 2: the big question with him is can he take care
Speaker 2: of the ball. Better obviously that one start that we
Speaker 2: saw against Ken, state there was a few. Turnovers some
Speaker 2: of them were drop, passes balls at batt and stuff like.
Speaker 2: That AND i will give all the quarterbacks a little
Speaker 2: bit of a caveat for the spring game because the
Speaker 2: wins were like thirty thirty five miles an, hour so
Speaker 2: it was a little bit tough to. Throw but the
Speaker 2: reason and you talk About wegman throwing, Downfield jimbo tried
Speaker 2: to force that issue even with the. Wins was, Like,
Speaker 2: hey we're gonna throw downfield because this is we want
Speaker 2: to do this this. Year, yeah and SO i think
Speaker 2: that's fun to talk about in. SPRING i would like
Speaker 2: to see it if it actually happens in the. Fall
Speaker 2: so you've Got, haynes WHO i think is a, true
Speaker 2: true duel, threat AND i think if he ends up
Speaker 2: being a, Guy i'm curious to see what they do.
Speaker 2: OFFENSIVELY i think you can open up the offense a
Speaker 2: little bit because of what he can do with his.
Speaker 2: Legs and Then. WEGMAN i Love wegman as a. Prospect
Speaker 2: one of the Best texas high Schoolquarterbacks i've. Seen the
Speaker 2: way he can make things happen when he, freelances when
Speaker 2: he gets out of the pocket is really really. Special
Speaker 2: you said mentioned him throwing down the ball down the.
Speaker 2: Field really. Impressive he's a baseball, player you, know he
Speaker 2: can he can really throw it to dual sports. STAR
Speaker 2: i love, him BUT i Just i'm not in a
Speaker 2: place WHERE i think he's a factor in this. Race
Speaker 2: BUT i and still it's going to take me seeing
Speaker 2: it to believe it that a true freshman can start
Speaker 2: In Jimbo fisher's. OFFENSE i just think it's asking a
Speaker 2: lot and some of the things THAT i saw From
Speaker 2: wegman in the spring game is off a little bit,
Speaker 2: here an inch, there a half a split second, there
Speaker 2: and those are things that after four or five more,
Speaker 2: months a full off, season another full off season the,
Speaker 2: program by this time next, YEAR i think you're going
Speaker 2: to see the jump that he makes in next. Spring
Speaker 2: BUT i don't think IT'S i don't think he's there,
Speaker 2: yet AND i would be really really surprised if he
Speaker 2: did win the.
Speaker 1: Job we Mentioned Evan stewart's dame a couple times now.
Speaker 1: Again the five star receiver caught a thirty two YARD
Speaker 1: i want to, say touchdown pass in the spring game
Speaker 1: From Max. Johnson all the Commentary i've seen is that
Speaker 1: he looked like a natural out, there which he would.
Speaker 1: Hope he's a five, star that sort of comes with the.
Speaker 1: Territory But TEXAS a and m of course made a
Speaker 1: lot of hay in this recruiting, cycle given the nature
Speaker 1: of the recruiting class that it's signed the best all
Speaker 1: time outside Of Evan, stewart of some of the guys
Speaker 1: that maybe stepped on the field had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: showcase their. Talents what are some takeaways that you, Had
Speaker 1: like of the names that we saw out, there who
Speaker 1: are some guys that might have a chance to make
Speaker 1: an impact?
Speaker 2: Early, YEAH i mean of the of the young offensive
Speaker 2: players you mean the young offensive recreer either Or sam
Speaker 2: either Or, YEAH i mean so of young guys THAT
Speaker 2: i think that stand out to me as instant impact.
Speaker 2: GUYS i Think Jake, johnson who intioned, earlier tied. End
Speaker 2: he was banged, up so you didn't see him in
Speaker 2: the spring, game but he seems to be like a
Speaker 2: guy that will probably play fairly, quickly SO i look
Speaker 2: at him as One Evan, Stewart like you, said he
Speaker 2: was OFFENSIVE mvp during spring ball for, them which for
Speaker 2: a true, freshman you got to give him. Credit i'm
Speaker 2: really curious he's not on campus, yet BUT i would
Speaker 2: like to See when we talked about that running back
Speaker 2: Dev Le'Veon moss the running back From. Louisiana that was
Speaker 2: a big get for. Them you, Know Maury daniels did
Speaker 2: well arrange. Cronovers the other guys did. Well But i'm
Speaker 2: curious to see What moss looks like when he gets on.
Speaker 2: Campus and then on, Defense Anthony, lucas who was the
Speaker 2: freshman defensive lineman defensive. END i just standing next to that,
Speaker 2: KID i was just, Like, wow he's an impressive athletic
Speaker 2: specimen six, five three, hundred really really moved well in
Speaker 2: the spring. Game and to, me SO i look at,
Speaker 2: him he was and he wasn't even one of the
Speaker 2: five star. LINEMAN i think he was a high four,
Speaker 2: star top fifty, guy which by the, way is still pretty.
Speaker 2: Good but THEN i think to, MYSELF i look At
Speaker 2: Anthony lucas And i'm, Like, okay all these other guys
Speaker 2: are coming in in the. Fall Walter nolan's coming in the.
Speaker 2: Fall Ei white's coming in the. Fall you've got a
Speaker 2: ton of big time other defensive linemen who are still
Speaker 2: not on campus. Yet the only two freshmen Are gabriel
Speaker 2: Brownlow dindi's the other who's been out because he was
Speaker 2: injured during An All star. Game so he's been out the,
Speaker 2: Spring BUT i look at those defensive, Linemen i'm thinking to,
Speaker 2: myself combined with the young ones that they bring, back
Speaker 2: the competition in that room is going to be really
Speaker 2: really something to. Watch the practices with, THOSE i think
Speaker 2: are going to be some of the fly on the
Speaker 2: wall for when you see some of these defensive linemen
Speaker 2: get in the. Building But lucas looks to me like
Speaker 2: an early contributor out of that. Class you, KNOW i
Speaker 2: was talking To jimbo. Today he really really Likes Cam,
Speaker 2: duberry the offensive lineman from A, taskasita as a guy
Speaker 2: who could potentially step in. EARLY i think it's LIKE i,
Speaker 2: said he's not on campus shed you got to see
Speaker 2: how he looks when he gets. There but definitely likes
Speaker 2: the measurables and the ability he has to play both
Speaker 2: guard and. Tackle So Smoke booey From, georgia that's another
Speaker 2: one that he really. Liked Bryce anderson From westbrook to
Speaker 2: the safety that he made some plays in the spring.
Speaker 2: Game safety type he. SHADOWS i Think Demani richardon said
Speaker 2: that he's shadow on him around a. Lot and So
Speaker 2: bryce is a GUY i think he probably contributes fairly.
Speaker 2: Early so there's a lot to. Say, LIGHTLY i think
Speaker 2: you're at least looking at a half a, dozen eight
Speaker 2: of eight guys in this, class, WELL i think at
Speaker 2: minimum that are going to contribute right.
Speaker 1: Away Incredible and whether on the too deep or.
Speaker 3: In some form or fashion on the, field did you
Speaker 3: get any, sense because, god it must have been rough
Speaker 3: to be AN a AND m fan last?
Speaker 1: Fall did you.
Speaker 3: Get a sense the way in WHICH a AND m
Speaker 3: lost last? Year right that the offense just is not
Speaker 3: at all in The arkansas game at. All they they
Speaker 3: give up a safety to lose The Mississippi state game
Speaker 3: as they're trying to drive the, Field devin H chain
Speaker 3: rushes for nine yards of carry and they stop giving
Speaker 3: him the. Ball in the old miss, game they're. UP
Speaker 3: i still need to be explained, that, yes same, Same
Speaker 3: YEAH lsu two.
Speaker 2: That happened IN. Lsu by the, way he had that
Speaker 2: drive in the third. Quarter, yeah where had he touched
Speaker 2: the ball like six? Times and then they scored a
Speaker 2: touchdown and then he did not touch the ball again.
Speaker 1: The rest of the.
Speaker 2: NIGHT i still need to be explained why that happened.
Speaker 3: Up up FOR i think with the opportunity to ice
Speaker 3: THAT lsu game with a couple of minutes left with
Speaker 3: a third and two and then give up the long
Speaker 3: drive to lose that. Game so is there introspection about
Speaker 3: situational play, calling the way the offense is. Organized it's
Speaker 3: easy to Say Zach calzatta was the quarterback and that
Speaker 3: ham strung our ability to do certain, things AND i
Speaker 3: think that's a totally fair. Viewpoint but is there any
Speaker 3: sort of introspection about how the offense is?
Speaker 2: HANDLED i sure hope, so, yeah for their sake because
Speaker 2: and this is the, question And jimbo got this question
Speaker 2: a lot after games last, year was why did you
Speaker 2: not run the ball more down the? Stretch and a
Speaker 2: lot of it was he defaulted took that he's calling
Speaker 2: a lot of RPOs and so that is leaving the
Speaker 2: decision on your quarterback to call. It and my thing
Speaker 2: is is and hopefully this is SOMETHING i can get
Speaker 2: into him a little bit as we get further closer
Speaker 2: to the, season is my thing, is why don't you
Speaker 2: just like line up in the pistol and just hand it,
Speaker 2: off turn around and hand it off to a chain forget?
Speaker 2: RPOs like there's sometimes where you just have To AND
Speaker 2: i Think jimbo's track record is a guy who really
Speaker 2: does believe in running the running the. Ball BUT i
Speaker 2: have noticed in some of these. Games you, know there
Speaker 2: was times Where Zach calesido was throwing the ball forty,
Speaker 2: times and that's it's not your best offensive, weapon, Right
Speaker 2: it just. Wasn't and so that is Something i'm curious
Speaker 2: to know how much of that evolves or. Changes AND
Speaker 2: i THINK i wonder also how much that goes back
Speaker 2: a little bit to the what we're talking about earlier
Speaker 2: With Ania. Smith how much is a Nice smith involved
Speaker 2: in this? Backfield do you go back to using him
Speaker 2: the Way San francisco forty nine ers used A Deebo
Speaker 2: samuel because they did that a couple of years ago
Speaker 2: With annias when he HAD i think forty carries and
Speaker 2: forty catches something or something or. Another so THAT i
Speaker 2: think if you get back to doing, that you can
Speaker 2: provide a little bit more balance in this in this.
Speaker 2: Offense but, yeah it's hard to say because the offensive
Speaker 2: staff is virtually the same. Everybody they have a new
Speaker 2: offensive line coach With Steve, dasio but everybody else is in.
Speaker 2: Place off the cornerator, Still Dearrel Dickey jimbo still the play.
Speaker 2: CALLER i went and listened To jimbo at a, clinic
Speaker 2: The Lone Star clinic down, here in conversation a couple months,
Speaker 2: ago AND i, mean he's intelligent, guy and you know
Speaker 2: he makes way more. Money he's a, Coach he's paid
Speaker 2: to do. This So I'm i'm not a play. Caller
Speaker 2: i'm not a, coach BUT i certainly would try to
Speaker 2: adjust IF i, could how Much i'm running the, ball
Speaker 2: especially when it's. WORKING i think that's the thing that's most.
Speaker 2: Frustrated it's not running the, ball it's getting away from
Speaker 2: it when it's. Working happened in The arkansas game, too
Speaker 2: And Isaiah spiller was, really really, good AND i don't
Speaker 2: think the last, quarter last eight minutes of the, GAME
Speaker 2: i don't think they ran the ball or at least
Speaker 2: not handed it to. Him and to, me that's something
Speaker 2: that's got to be. Fixed AND i think that's going
Speaker 2: to take some humility and some introspection On jimbo's part
Speaker 2: to fix this. Year my final, QUESTION i don't know
Speaker 2: what else you, Have, tie but we've touched on defensive.
Speaker 2: Players but there is a new defensive coordinator AND Dj.
Speaker 2: Durkin jimbo has been outspoken about we run a four
Speaker 2: to two five, here this is the defense we run.
Speaker 2: Here Mike elco did a very good job running the
Speaker 2: four two five that we wanted to. Run and NOW
Speaker 2: Dj diurkin comes in and he's going to run what
Speaker 2: we want to. Run what is what is expected ABOUT
Speaker 2: dj durkins unique tweaks or influence on What TEXAS a
Speaker 2: AND m is already toing on an extremely successful. Level
Speaker 2: what is expected this fall and beyond about THE Dj
Speaker 2: dirkins seasoning to this. Defense, yeah AND i Think jimbo
Speaker 2: was aggressive with the way he framed that because also
Speaker 2: this is the personnel they, have correct and so they've
Speaker 2: really deep on the defensive. Line they're really deep in
Speaker 2: the defensive backfield and not so deep at. Linebackers SO
Speaker 2: i think that fits what you have and that's what
Speaker 2: you've recruited. To But DJ's got AND i think he's
Speaker 2: softening a little bit on. It DJ's got a background
Speaker 2: in multiple fronts and has worked in multiple fronts over the,
Speaker 2: years has a pretty good. Reputation there has been In
Speaker 2: jimbo has mentioned that he has done a little bit
Speaker 2: tweaking throughout the spring ball and adding a little bit
Speaker 2: of his own ideas and, twist which it's his. JOB i,
Speaker 2: Mean jimbo's got to run the. Offense it's not going
Speaker 2: to Be jimbo out there calling.
Speaker 1: Defenses so at.
Speaker 2: The end of the, day this Is DJ's, baby and
Speaker 2: ultimately it is going to have his stamp in his
Speaker 2: blueprint on. It but, yeah the alignment is going to
Speaker 2: be based on their strengths and personnel and that makes
Speaker 2: a whole ton of, sense and especially when you look
Speaker 2: in the, secondary they have a lot of is A
Speaker 2: nickel you, Know Antonio johnson was was a star At
Speaker 2: nickel last year and can be that. Again but if
Speaker 2: they want to move him, around and they have other
Speaker 2: options that they can do that with as. Well but, YEAH,
Speaker 2: DJ i think when you see some of the things
Speaker 2: that they did at Ole miss last, YEAR i think
Speaker 2: you could see some of that trickling down from AN
Speaker 2: a AND m standpoint this year, too just because that's
Speaker 2: part of his background and he's been in this conference
Speaker 2: now for a couple of, years and he was in
Speaker 2: it before back in his forth to, days so he's
Speaker 2: he knows what, works he knows what. Doesn't AND i
Speaker 2: think with a talent on, hand some of it's going
Speaker 2: to have to grow, up and a lot of it
Speaker 2: is going to be interesting because so many of these
Speaker 2: guys you're, young especially the guys up, front so there's
Speaker 2: gonna be some growing, PAINS i. Think but, OVERALL i
Speaker 2: don't have the feeling that it's going to be anything
Speaker 2: but what DJ's vision is just with obviously within What
Speaker 2: jimbo wants it to.
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Speaker 2: Season thank you so, much, MAN i appreciate you guys having.
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Speaker 3: TWO i, MEAN i THINK i speak for both of
Speaker 3: us and that one of the great joys of the
Speaker 3: sport is a. Breakthrough is when a team is hitting
Speaker 3: up against a, wall hitting up against a ceiling for whatever,
Speaker 3: reason making you, know annual mistakes that limits their, potential
Speaker 3: and then has a, year a magical year due to
Speaker 3: a number of factors we saw last year from a
Speaker 3: number of teams you, Know michigan probably most, notably and
Speaker 3: getting past The Ohio State. Wall the reasons Why TEXAS
Speaker 3: a AND m can't are growing fewer and, fewer and
Speaker 3: hopefully as a college football fan that pays off and
Speaker 3: we get a breakthrough from The aggies or a fall
Speaker 3: soon to be.
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Speaker 3: Themed Spring Snapshot part.
Speaker 1: One part, one there will be. More stay. Tuned, Yep
Speaker 1: puddle Of mud continues through the spring football. Season will
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Speaker 1: About big thanks to our guest of Honor sam from
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