Speaker 1: Okay, you surely films to be Buried with? Hello, and
Speaker 1: welcome to Films to be Buried With. My name is
Speaker 1: Brett Goldstein. I am a comedian, an actor, a writer, director,
Speaker 1: an altoid maker, and I love films. As Stephen Ericson
Speaker 1: once said, people don't change to suit their God. They
Speaker 1: change their God to suit them. Like at some point
Speaker 1: someone must have thought Point Break isn't good enough, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to remake it. That's insane when you think
Speaker 1: about it. What a mad thing to have done. Thank
Speaker 1: you for reminding me of that, Stephen Ericson. Every week
Speaker 1: I'm invite a special guest eiver. I tell them they've died,
Speaker 1: then I get them to discuss their life through the
Speaker 1: films that meant the most of them. Previous guests include
Speaker 1: Barry Jenkins, Kevin Smith, Sharon Stone and even Ken Lambele's.
Speaker 1: But this week it's the brilliant actor, writer, singer, comedian
Speaker 1: and crazy ex girlfriend Starr and co creator Rachel Bloom.
Speaker 1: Huge announcement. I will be doing a massive, huge, big
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Speaker 1: Empire on July second. Tickets are on sale. You can
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Speaker 1: right out time. Head over to the Patreon at Patreon
Speaker 1: dot com, forward slash Brett Goldsteam, where you're get an
Speaker 1: extra fifteen to twenty minutes of chat with Rachel where
Speaker 1: we laughed a lot. We talk about beginnings and endings.
Speaker 1: She told me a secret. You also get the whole episode,
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Speaker 1: What's Ted Lasso on Apple TV Plus, watch Soulmates and
Speaker 1: super Bob on Amazon Prime. That's all your homework. Let's
Speaker 1: get on with this show. So Rachel Bloom is the
Speaker 1: brilliant and amazing star and co creator of Crazy Ex Girlfriend.
Speaker 1: She's also in Angry Birds too with Jason S. Dakis.
Speaker 1: I've wanted to get her on the podcast for years
Speaker 1: and so I was very grateful to be able to
Speaker 1: have this. I'm with her. We recorded this on Zoom
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, a few days ago. Why do
Speaker 1: you need the exact time? It doesn't matter as it
Speaker 1: is here. That's the main thing. She was amazing. We
Speaker 1: had a brilliant time, and I really think you're going
Speaker 1: to enjoy this one. So that is it for now.
Speaker 1: I very much hope you enjoy episode A one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety four of Films to be Buried With. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to Films to be Buried With. It is
Speaker 1: I Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by a writer,
Speaker 1: an actor, a comic, a sketch co a musician, a singer,
Speaker 1: a songwriter, an award winner, a director, a screenwriter, a
Speaker 1: show runner, a creator, an executive producer, and a musical star,
Speaker 1: and a humor and a person. Please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: I can't believe she's here. It's only the one is
Speaker 1: Grega Blaine? Oh, thank you for what an intro. Ah,
Speaker 1: what a treat to have you. How are you? I'm
Speaker 1: so good, Thanks for thanks for coming on. It's daytime
Speaker 1: where I am, it's nighttime where you are. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the compromise. Well we've met in the middle, and
Speaker 1: I'm glad we have Rachel. We've never met before, but hey,
Speaker 1: huge fact. B first heard about you from Catherine Tate.
Speaker 1: Don't know if you know kine of I know of
Speaker 1: Catherine Tate. I am stunned. That she knows me well.
Speaker 1: I worked with Katherine Tate. She was obsessed with you,
Speaker 1: and she said, you've got You've got to get her
Speaker 1: on the podcast. And that was a while ago, and
Speaker 1: then I saw your show and I was like, we've
Speaker 1: got to get her on the podcast. And also, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I forgot any intro, you're an angry
Speaker 1: bed You're an Angry Birds too, with Jason C. Dakis,
Speaker 1: who I also know. Of course, I was like, what's
Speaker 1: your connect? But that makes more sense. Also another connection
Speaker 1: is my husband wrote on ham at your Mother with
Speaker 1: Joe Kelly No Yes and Joe Kelly major co creates
Speaker 1: a right to exact on Ted Lesso says your husband
Speaker 1: is his favorite person, which made me really sad because
Speaker 1: I thought we were class Really sorry, I mean, my
Speaker 1: husband's my favorite person. But I guess what I'm realizing
Speaker 1: is maybe Joe Kelly's fucking my husband. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: takeaway I got for him today. Tell me this so
Speaker 1: many questions. So your your biggest your big your big show.
Speaker 1: Crazy Kaffrid ran for four seasons. Correct, yes, yes, correct,
Speaker 1: there's a test on your own work. My question is
Speaker 1: how do you do what you did, which was make
Speaker 1: an hour long show twenty episodes of season? Was it
Speaker 1: sometimes thirteen, sometimes eighteen? Okay, but now I needed you
Speaker 1: have to write and acted and directed and make all
Speaker 1: those things. But you also had to learn song and
Speaker 1: dances and write winning songs every week. How did you
Speaker 1: did you have a nervous breakdown? How many of those
Speaker 1: songs already existed? How? I mean, it just seems impossible
Speaker 1: and yet yeah, so so let's see first two seasons
Speaker 1: not a nervous breakdown. But there was a point in
Speaker 1: the first two seasons where midway through my body broke
Speaker 1: down and I got very sick. And season one, it
Speaker 1: was around episode thirteen, and it was right before I
Speaker 1: had to do a big kissing scene. And I would
Speaker 1: never do this. I would never do this now. But
Speaker 1: like you know, back then in twenty sixteen, you still
Speaker 1: did a kissing scene when you were sick, and so
Speaker 1: I had. I had my first kiss with Vinnie, who
Speaker 1: played the role of Josh, when I was really, really,
Speaker 1: really sick, and he loaded up on garlic to try
Speaker 1: to not get sick. And so my first kiss with
Speaker 1: him was just disgusting. I was I thought it was
Speaker 1: a prank. I was like, what is it was coming
Speaker 1: out of his mouth and his nose and his horse
Speaker 1: heat eating so much garlic. And then I got sick
Speaker 1: in season two and then season three I had a
Speaker 1: legit panic attack that was my yeah, and the season
Speaker 1: four no technical panic attack, but I got sick numerous times,
Speaker 1: like my body was was done. And you know it's
Speaker 1: interesting because people say, how how did you do it?
Speaker 1: In The answer is, and I'm sure, like you know,
Speaker 1: you're an actor and a writer, you get like you
Speaker 1: kind of you do what you have to do until
Speaker 1: your body says stop and then you call production and
Speaker 1: you say I'm sick or I'm having a panic attack,
Speaker 1: but like you just kind of you just kind of
Speaker 1: do it. When you kissed Josh and you were really
Speaker 1: ill and the garlic did he get ill? Or did
Speaker 1: the garlic work? He didn't. I think the garlic worked,
Speaker 1: So why don't we late in garlic all the time?
Speaker 1: This is I guess we should just I guess that
Speaker 1: was the real COVID cure, right, And then I, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think I got I'm And then season three
Speaker 1: that finale, Scott who played Nathaniel, was really like deathly ill.
Speaker 1: I mean, not deathely, but like he was really sick
Speaker 1: and we had to kiss. And I don't know if
Speaker 1: I got sick. I always got sick after a season ended.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this happens to you, where like your body
Speaker 1: the adrenaline goes away and your body goes between. Now
Speaker 1: we can get sick. What about the you know, obviously
Speaker 1: I can relate to this, And I'm curious about you
Speaker 1: had a show that was season one, huge success, award winning,
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere. No one knew anything about it.
Speaker 1: There it was Did you feel the pressure and if so,
Speaker 1: how did you cope with the pressure of writing the
Speaker 1: next three seasons? Did it get easier? Did it get
Speaker 1: harder every year? How was that? Well? The lovely thing
Speaker 1: was when Aline because Aline Brush mccanna was my co
Speaker 1: creator and the showrunner of the show, and so she
Speaker 1: when she and I pitched the show, we had a
Speaker 1: four season arc that we kind of pitched, and so
Speaker 1: we always had a nice guide post of Okay, what's
Speaker 1: the point of the show, where are we going, what's
Speaker 1: the story we're trying to tell? And as successful as
Speaker 1: it seems that the show was, I mean I got
Speaker 1: a lot of Awards. That first season. It was a
Speaker 1: pretty like Under the Radar show, So it wasn't as big,
Speaker 1: it wasn't ubiquitous like ted Lasso. It was a cult
Speaker 1: hit and remains a cult hit. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: but even if it had been, you know, no matter what,
Speaker 1: I think, all you can do is just keep doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing and writing the thing that you'd want
Speaker 1: to watch, because that's what made people watching in the
Speaker 1: first place. And so there were definitely some fan questions
Speaker 1: and interaction that we'd like put into the show. You know,
Speaker 1: fans had asked, why is Rebecca not on medication? And
Speaker 1: so that definitely informed a storyline in season four. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, we had like a plan and
Speaker 1: we knew the point we wanted to make. So that
Speaker 1: was nice, right, Not that I'm about kind of asking, now,
Speaker 1: would you do another full season big TV show? Again?
Speaker 1: Not one that I was So we were in I
Speaker 1: guess in the US what you call a network show.
Speaker 1: We were on technically a broadcast network, which meant that
Speaker 1: due to episode orders, but also just money, we were
Speaker 1: writing while we were filming, while we were editing. It's
Speaker 1: not like I think a lot of streaming shows, not all,
Speaker 1: but a lot of streaming shows like right, and then
Speaker 1: they filmed and then they edit, so we were doing
Speaker 1: it all at once that I wouldn't do again, especially
Speaker 1: not for thirteen episodes, mainly because it was hard, but
Speaker 1: also I have a child now and I thank you,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't have been. I'm on this new show
Speaker 1: right now. I'm filming a show with Hulu, and I'm
Speaker 1: number five on the call sheets, so that means, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not in every scene. But last week I had
Speaker 1: a string where I was called you know, five thirty am,
Speaker 1: like every day, and I didn't see my daughter at all,
Speaker 1: and it was hard. It's really because she's too she
Speaker 1: doesn't understand. So that's another thing I finally get when
Speaker 1: people were saying, oh, I can't do this because of
Speaker 1: my kids. You know, before you have kids, Before I
Speaker 1: had kids, I was so selfish. I was like, who
Speaker 1: cares about your dumb kid. This is your career. Your
Speaker 1: career is the most important. Yeah, when people when people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, my kids, I'd be like, that's so lame.
Speaker 1: And now I'm one hundred percent get it, of course.
Speaker 1: I I yeah, it's uh, it's it's really hard to
Speaker 1: go to work when just yesterday I saw my daughter
Speaker 1: in the morning and I got to like change your diaper,
Speaker 1: and then I said, okay, I have to go to work,
Speaker 1: and she went, Mama, no work, oh god, and it
Speaker 1: just was like oh oh. And and it's hot and
Speaker 1: I can't bring her to set really easily because of
Speaker 1: COVID protocols. Um, so it's it's hard. Yeah. Oh man,
Speaker 1: what's the show. It's called Reboot. It's a show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just great idea. Tell thee tell the idea,
Speaker 1: tell the idea. Well. So it's creative by Steve Levitt
Speaker 1: who did Modern Family, of course, and it is about
Speaker 1: a show from the early two thousands that gets a
Speaker 1: reboot on Hulu. It's a Hulu show, but in the
Speaker 1: world of this show, it gets like a reboot on Hulu,
Speaker 1: and it's about the cast coming back together. And then
Speaker 1: I play the creator of the new the reboot of
Speaker 1: the show. It's a very good idea. It's a great
Speaker 1: it's a great idea, right, Like it's really perfect, and
Speaker 1: the cast is like awesome and very I get to
Speaker 1: work with Paul Reiser and Judy Greer and Johnny fucking
Speaker 1: Knoxville and Michael Key like it's it's awesome. That's pretty sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really cool. And do you miss are you going
Speaker 1: to do he used to do a lot of life.
Speaker 1: Are you still doing live? Is that something you're going
Speaker 1: back to? Oh I am. I've been doing it intermittently
Speaker 1: in LA because I'm working on a special and then
Speaker 1: I want to be doing I want to be ramping
Speaker 1: a live performance more. I was just pretty cautious for
Speaker 1: a long time because I have a kid, and then
Speaker 1: now I'm filming, so I do it less, but I
Speaker 1: would love to and then I'd eventually love to go
Speaker 1: back to like Europe in the UK and perform, because
Speaker 1: that was a thrill that happened right before COVID happened.
Speaker 1: I got to perform at the Palladium for two nights
Speaker 1: in London, and man, that was just so special. That's
Speaker 1: pretty sweet. It was amazing. Shit, Rachel, Fuck, I just
Speaker 1: I forgot to tell you something. I've just looked at
Speaker 1: the knights I made and I should have told you
Speaker 1: this probably at the beginning. Oh fuck, I'll just tell you.
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you. We'll have to tell me. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll do what we can, but there's not much I
Speaker 1: can do about it, because it's just a Okay, you've died,
Speaker 1: you're dead. Oh yeah, it's really sad. It is said,
Speaker 1: how how did you die? I know exactly how I died.
Speaker 1: I choked on a bunch of multi colored scarves. Whoa this?
Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell me how that came about. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you why I know is I used to write for
Speaker 1: this sketch show, Robot Chicken, and the first the first
Speaker 1: season I wrote for it, season six, the episode titles
Speaker 1: on that show kind of are whatever, and so every
Speaker 1: episode title was they asked a different writer and a
Speaker 1: different member of production how they think they'll die. And
Speaker 1: so one of the episodes in season six is mine,
Speaker 1: and it's choked on multi colored scarves. So I've I've
Speaker 1: thought about this before, and the way I picture it
Speaker 1: is like I'm going to be one of those old
Speaker 1: ladies or older ladies. I could picture this happening as
Speaker 1: early as my mid fifties, where I'm just wearing suddenly
Speaker 1: a bunch of shawls and scarves and I just they
Speaker 1: get wrapped around each other and I choked to death
Speaker 1: by your own hand, my own hand. It acts then
Speaker 1: you're putting them on. You're not concentrate, and you keep
Speaker 1: adding them, you're tying in them. They get cool within
Speaker 1: each other. You're trying to Yes, I think it was
Speaker 1: a Duncan. Is a door Duncan died that way? The
Speaker 1: uh is it door Duncan? She was She had a
Speaker 1: long scarf. She was in a car and the long
Speaker 1: scarf got wrapped around the wheel of a car. It snapped.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, yeah, wow, that's me. She went the way
Speaker 1: of VI. Is a door Duncan? Do you worry about death? Basically?
Speaker 1: I do? I do. I Actually the live show I'm
Speaker 1: working on right now is a lot about death. M Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's been a journey. I went through a Basically, I
Speaker 1: gave birth in March twenty twenty and I gave birth
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, right in the thick of
Speaker 1: the early pandemic, so we didn't know what the fuck
Speaker 1: was happening. And my daughter was born with fluid r lungs,
Speaker 1: so she was in the NICKEU, which is the neonatal ICEU,
Speaker 1: which is terrifying anyway, and then it was a pandemic
Speaker 1: and then uh, and then a week after my my
Speaker 1: one of my songwriting partners Adamslessenger died of COVID. So
Speaker 1: it was all of this kind of yeah, it was
Speaker 1: all it was. It was basically all just all of
Speaker 1: this very you know, it was. It was hard, it
Speaker 1: was awful, and so I've been thinking a lot about
Speaker 1: I hadn't my life hadn't really been touched by death
Speaker 1: and hospitals and grief and fear of death like that before,
Speaker 1: and so it definitely was a defining in many ways,
Speaker 1: like defining a couple of weeks in my life. So
Speaker 1: I thought I thought about death, but actually I've been
Speaker 1: writing a show about it, and it's it's really helped
Speaker 1: me come out on the other side and start to
Speaker 1: at the moment, get okay with it. Would you mind
Speaker 1: if if if it's possible to talk about how you've
Speaker 1: got to the other side, like what's your thought on
Speaker 1: it now? Or if actually it's gonna like it's the
Speaker 1: end of the it's now the ending line of the show,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to hold onto it. But if it's
Speaker 1: not the ending line of the show, whenever it becomes
Speaker 1: a special, I apologize. If if it's not the ending line,
Speaker 1: is shie, will you please just email me yeah, I will.
Speaker 1: I will also just tell you off Mike. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: that's tightly fair. Well about what do you think happens
Speaker 1: when you die? Do you think there's enoughterlife of any kind?
Speaker 1: I do, uh, look, I am, I do not, but
Speaker 1: I would love there to be good news. Good news
Speaker 1: there is. Yeah, there's a heaven and it's it's pretty
Speaker 1: fucking great. It's fielding your favorite thing. What's your favorite thing? Pasta?
Speaker 1: It is made of pasta, all the pastas. The wolves
Speaker 1: are lasagna things. The seats are those by tie things,
Speaker 1: but the right soft or hard however you like your seats.
Speaker 1: The food is pasta. There are waiters made of pasta
Speaker 1: or the clothes of pasta. At some point you walk
Speaker 1: around as Heaven regretting choosing pasta. There's so much of it. However,
Speaker 1: the people have pasta Heaven. They're so excited to see you.
Speaker 1: They're huge fans of all your work and they want
Speaker 1: to talk to you, but they want to talk to
Speaker 1: you about your life through the medium of film. And
Speaker 1: the first thing they ask you is why is the
Speaker 1: first film you remember seeing? Right, Chill Blaine, I love
Speaker 1: Heaven and thank you for asking pasta people The first
Speaker 1: film I remember seeing is Steel Magnolias. What. So we
Speaker 1: had the VHS and I watched it all. We watched
Speaker 1: it all the time. The first film I technically ever
Speaker 1: saw was Dirty Dancing, but I remember seeing Steel Magnolias
Speaker 1: before then. Because I don't know if this is an
Speaker 1: actual memory I have, or if my mother told me,
Speaker 1: or if it's a mix. But I was watching Steel
Speaker 1: Magnolias and it's the scene where a spoiler alert, Julia
Speaker 1: Roberts character Shelby dies and it's her funeral. It's very intense,
Speaker 1: and I said to my mom, I don't like this scene.
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to look at
Speaker 1: it anymore. And so it's also this memory that's wrapped
Speaker 1: up in like an inkling of death. Fascinating that the
Speaker 1: very fast film you saw that is the film. It's Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just for whatever reason, it was a staples.
Speaker 1: It was a staple in my household, and I just
Speaker 1: I think that's like my earliest memory watching a film. Wow,
Speaker 1: And do you have siblings? No, I need child, just me, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: just me and the madness. So you and your mum,
Speaker 1: what Steel Magnolia is together? My dad would watch it too.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'd watch it too or just
Speaker 1: be forced to watch it because my mom loves steel
Speaker 1: Magnolia is so much. But we would watch it together.
Speaker 1: And I think I think the time that I remember
Speaker 1: watching it that there was a death scene. It was
Speaker 1: on TV. I think it was on TV all the time.
Speaker 1: I think we had the VHS, but also it was
Speaker 1: just always on I was watching it. Yeah, what is
Speaker 1: the film that scared you the most? Right, cho plain
Speaker 1: the Shining. I was like eleven, and I was home alone,
Speaker 1: and I was watching it at night like an idiot.
Speaker 1: And then the scene where you realize what that red
Speaker 1: rum is murder spelled backwards. I screamed, and it sucked
Speaker 1: me up for a long time. That's a great film.
Speaker 1: It's classic. One classic film to to scar you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the scariest bit is when you read what
Speaker 1: he's been writing. Oh yeah, yeah, that's of course. That's
Speaker 1: not the scariest bit is the fucking twins. That's the
Speaker 1: scariest bit. I mean, the old lady in the bathtub
Speaker 1: is that's scariest. Yeah. And then and then the the
Speaker 1: zoom on the guy in a bear costume, getting a
Speaker 1: blowjob is pretty unnerving. That's true. That out. I've mixed
Speaker 1: that up with Midsummer What So do you like being scared?
Speaker 1: Do I do? I don't like stabby stabby whoo whoo
Speaker 1: as much as like psychological thriller and then it earned something.
Speaker 1: I mean I loved Midsummer. Yeah, that's oh god, I
Speaker 1: love them movie. Yeah, yeah, that movie could I could
Speaker 1: see some parallels with that that may Bee and stuff
Speaker 1: you've done. Yeah. The unsettling their unsettling tension. That's artsy
Speaker 1: leading to a big scare is my jam. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that. What's the film that made you cry the most?
Speaker 1: And do you cry a lot? And do you like
Speaker 1: to cry? I like to cry. I wish I cried more.
Speaker 1: I really liked the release of Crying. I used to
Speaker 1: cry more when I was more emotionally unstable and now
Speaker 1: fortunately I don't. Um Okay, the movie that made me
Speaker 1: cry the most and it's a movie that we had
Speaker 1: the I guess the VHS of that I finally watched.
Speaker 1: There was a made for TV movie called Testament and
Speaker 1: it was made in then, I want to say, the seventies,
Speaker 1: and it's about a small town in northern California. Five
Speaker 1: minutes into the movie, they're watching TV and TV goes
Speaker 1: to static and there's like a message on the TV
Speaker 1: screen that's like several nuclear devices have been fired off
Speaker 1: the East coast and then all of their lights go out.
Speaker 1: And basically it's a movie about this small town, but
Speaker 1: it's very clear that every major city in the US
Speaker 1: has been nuked and they don't know who it is
Speaker 1: and they don't know why. And you slowly see everyone
Speaker 1: in this small town die of radiation poison. It's the
Speaker 1: saddest movie in the world. And you watch I think
Speaker 1: Jane Alexander, you watch her friends die, you watch her
Speaker 1: children die, and it is it was so upset. I
Speaker 1: think I saw it in high school and it was
Speaker 1: so upsetting. I definitely couldn't ever rewatch it, especially not
Speaker 1: now as a mother. Jesus. It's it's fucking dark. It's
Speaker 1: really dark, but it's about like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it was made height of the Cold War, so it's like,
Speaker 1: this is what could happen? Okay, now, oh yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a bummer. There's an English cartoon film called When the
Speaker 1: Wind Blows You ever heard of that? And it's it's
Speaker 1: basically the film Testament, but with cartoons. It's just a
Speaker 1: sweet old couple and they're like this sort of northern
Speaker 1: couple and there's a what they get, like a thing
Speaker 1: in the post that says lock your doors or something,
Speaker 1: and you never see basically in that they don't see it.
Speaker 1: But there's a nuclear war going on and they're just
Speaker 1: slowly poisoned and it looks like a very sweet film,
Speaker 1: and just slowly through the film they get grayer and
Speaker 1: grayer and they can't breathe anymore, and they go, we
Speaker 1: make a cup of tea and they just slightly die.
Speaker 1: So fucking dark. Oh that's very that's very um. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's very English, like the American. Like the
Speaker 1: American is like, look at all these people die, and
Speaker 1: I think it's just like shall we shall we make
Speaker 1: a cup of cheese? Everything's all right? Yeah, the wife
Speaker 1: it's kind It's cold, isn't it. It's so cold, It's
Speaker 1: so horrible. It's on the children's you know, kids TV
Speaker 1: type for when the wind blows? What is the film
Speaker 1: that you love? Most people don't like it. It's not
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed, but you don't give a shit what anyone says,
Speaker 1: you think it's brilliant and you will not be turned.
Speaker 1: I really love She's all That. That's fucking great. It's
Speaker 1: really good, and I rewatched it recently and like it
Speaker 1: really holds up and rachel Leiee Cook is amazing, and
Speaker 1: I just why is she not in More? I don't
Speaker 1: understand it, right, question? Why isn't she in More? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know the answer. But she's awesome
Speaker 1: and that movie's just great. It's really good. I mean,
Speaker 1: She's all that is a proper Oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: taken off her glasses and she's fit. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: such a defining moment of how I see love and
Speaker 1: romance is when she walks down the stairs to kiss
Speaker 1: me and you see her for the first time, Like
Speaker 1: that is sex to me. Yeah, i'd agree that is.
Speaker 1: I would also say that's sick, which which says a lot,
Speaker 1: because it's all about like her conforming to like looking
Speaker 1: you know, conforming to the male gays, conforming to like
Speaker 1: how people you know, looking conventionally hot. So it's like
Speaker 1: fucked up, But I still love that scene. Well, it's
Speaker 1: grace o Liver again, isn't it. Yeah? Yeah, But also
Speaker 1: a great scene. Yeah. For the record, obviously Grace Too
Speaker 1: is the better film because it is not about the
Speaker 1: blood email gays anyway. It's about being your girl for
Speaker 1: all seasons exactly. Thank you, thank you. What is the
Speaker 1: film that you used to love? You loved it, You've
Speaker 1: gone back to it recently and you've thought, oh, no,
Speaker 1: I don't like this anymore for whatever reason that might
Speaker 1: be well, speaking of John Travolta, another staple in my
Speaker 1: household growing up, probably because it was on TV so much,
Speaker 1: was Look Who's Talking Now? The third installment in the
Speaker 1: Look Who's Talking series? It is the one of the
Speaker 1: talking dogs. Yes, I watched it all the time, and
Speaker 1: then I rewatched it. Um Actually when I was when
Speaker 1: when my daughter was like a couple of weeks old,
Speaker 1: I was just like, I want to watch a bunch
Speaker 1: of stupid eighties movies about having a kid. So I
Speaker 1: watched the whole Look He's Talking franchise and I was like,
Speaker 1: this movie is literal dog shit. They did one more right,
Speaker 1: Lukis because I loved Luckie's Talking One was I mean,
Speaker 1: I was very young. It's one of my favorite films.
Speaker 1: Luka's Talking One's fantastic. Look Who's talking too? Is terrible?
Speaker 1: And look Who's talking now? Is an abomination. It's it's
Speaker 1: an insult to the art of film. And I'm astonished.
Speaker 1: Is it only dogs talking and Luckie's talking now? Or
Speaker 1: also babies? Who else is talk? Kid? No? So now
Speaker 1: the kid? Now? The kids can say what they mean
Speaker 1: with their mouths. So there's no more Bruce Willis. It's
Speaker 1: Danny de Vito and Diane Keaton nice. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: making me when to watch it. And it's still best
Speaker 1: the Alien, Oh, it still is. And their marriage is
Speaker 1: just broken and terrible. But their chemistry in the first
Speaker 1: movie is like undeniable. They're so good together. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a great film. Does it hold up? I haven't wort
Speaker 1: it a long time, but it genuinely used to be
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. Looka's talking definitely held up right.
Speaker 1: Also Luke Who's talking? Credit sequence best best showing people
Speaker 1: how sperms and eggs work. Yeah, it's so incredibly good.
Speaker 1: And I do credit that as I had an awareness
Speaker 1: very young of how babies were made, and I think
Speaker 1: a very healthy way, and I credit that movie Around Around,
Speaker 1: Get Around, I Get Around, just little little breaths swimming
Speaker 1: through the follow to the head Rachel Blade. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is the film that means the most to you? Not
Speaker 1: necessarily the film itself is any good, but because the
Speaker 1: experience you had around seeing the film will always make
Speaker 1: it special to you. Well, this film is amazing anyway.
Speaker 1: But Coco I saw, actually i'd seen it for the
Speaker 1: second time. I saw Coco at the Hollywood Bowl when
Speaker 1: I was probably six months pregnant. Oh shit, And you know,
Speaker 1: Coco's all about a father who leaves a daughter, and
Speaker 1: so my husband and I knew I was pregnant with
Speaker 1: a girl, and my husband and I were weeping and
Speaker 1: it was this unbelievable. They had live performances, they had
Speaker 1: people singing live. There was like orange streamers that came down.
Speaker 1: And then also it was a couple months later was
Speaker 1: the pandemic where we weren't able to be and go
Speaker 1: to live performances for quite some time. So that night
Speaker 1: was just so special. That's people, I really love Coco.
Speaker 1: I have talked about it on this podcast, but it
Speaker 1: genuinely made me feel better about death, like genuinely, it
Speaker 1: sort of changed my view on it. Wow. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I Oh, it's all right, and't it It made me
Speaker 1: want to put up. I think it's called a fred
Speaker 1: of the Afrida or the Afrida. I apologize to the
Speaker 1: Nation of Mexico for my mispronunciation, but I made me
Speaker 1: want to do that. Mmm. Yeah, it's a very special film. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you relate to the most,
Speaker 1: Rachel Blaine, I mean, yeah, absolutely. Um well, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Dollhouse. I saw when I was in middle school
Speaker 1: and was being bullied. Oh good, like don and so
Speaker 1: I really instantly instantly related to it. Oh god, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: unfortunately that makes me sad. Yeah, yeah, I have middle
Speaker 1: schools terrible. Oh good. When did you start? When did
Speaker 1: you start doing your your performing it a minute? Oh kid,
Speaker 1: a little kid. Yeah yeah, I was doing like community
Speaker 1: theater productions, which only I grew up in southern California
Speaker 1: by the beach, and when I grew up now it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of different. But like when I grew up there,
Speaker 1: there there was good There were good theater programs, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't like you know, in most like in most places,
Speaker 1: it wasn't the cool thing to do. And I was
Speaker 1: super into especially musical theater, and there weren't a ton
Speaker 1: of outlets for that, And that's just scratching the surface
Speaker 1: of all of the ways. I felt like Dawn and
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Dollhouse. But that's such a horrible film.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's ro it's rough. Oh it's rough. And
Speaker 1: I saw it and I was like, yep, m hmm, yep.
Speaker 1: These are my classmates. Oh god, when did that get
Speaker 1: better in your life? Was it after school? At no?
Speaker 1: Eighth grade? Eighth grade? And I and it's directly correlated
Speaker 1: to they. At my middle school, a teacher made a
Speaker 1: musical theater class and it had been like an after
Speaker 1: school club the year for and then he decided to
Speaker 1: make it a year round class, an elective. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'd been doing I've been studying musical theater. It had
Speaker 1: been my passion, and suddenly it was like the thing
Speaker 1: to do in this middle school. And that's what got
Speaker 1: me respect. That's nice. What's the best part you've played
Speaker 1: in a musical thus far? Oh, probably Stole the Witch
Speaker 1: and into the Woods. What is your dream role in
Speaker 1: the musical? You know, honestly, I Harold Hill and the
Speaker 1: music man would be a delight. That's a fucking great idea.
Speaker 1: I'd love too. I'd love to do that role. What
Speaker 1: a fun what a just a joyful fun role? I
Speaker 1: mean I could. I don't need to see why that
Speaker 1: isn't happening. You could make that happen. I'm a people
Speaker 1: want to do this. I have said it, but I'll
Speaker 1: say it again. I am Techavale. Anyone who wants me
Speaker 1: to play Harold Hill I am here Zecha Vale. You
Speaker 1: heard it here? Yeah, Todd Sillons, the director of Working
Speaker 1: to the Dollhouse. Oh yeah, it's a very specific thing.
Speaker 1: I say this. I'm not a fan of his stuff,
Speaker 1: and only because his world view is so depressing that
Speaker 1: I sort of don't like to look at it. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting and good luck to him, but
Speaker 1: now it's bleak. Oh. It is so so aggressively dark
Speaker 1: and very of the especially of the nineties, when I
Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know, the world was in a
Speaker 1: relatively stable state, that there was a I think a
Speaker 1: love of darkness because it seemed foreign and exotic. But
Speaker 1: you couldn't do a movie like Happiness where the lead
Speaker 1: is a literal child molester and you're weirdly not rooting
Speaker 1: for him. But understanding you couldn't get that movie made.
Speaker 1: Now the world is the world is too dark. The
Speaker 1: world is too dark? Now, Yeah, that is really interesting point.
Speaker 1: It's a comedian called Phil Wang, you might know, and
Speaker 1: he has original about how he hates horror films, and
Speaker 1: he's like, the world is scared. Basically, it's like, I'm
Speaker 1: from somewhere scared. I don't want to be scared. It's
Speaker 1: I'm already scared. I don't know, it's a luxury to
Speaker 1: be good. Oh, I'd enjoy being scared. He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking scared, absolutely absolutely, And I feel like that was
Speaker 1: the I don't know, that felt like the entire nineties
Speaker 1: like we weren't scared, so it's like, let's let's scare
Speaker 1: ourselves another way. I'm so mystified that Squid Game was
Speaker 1: the biggest TV show in the world because I found
Speaker 1: Squid Game and I watched all of it. I found
Speaker 1: it so incredibly depressing and bleak. Yeah, but I guess
Speaker 1: maybe in that case people craved a bleakness that was well,
Speaker 1: at least I'm not in a squid game, like my
Speaker 1: wife life is terrible right now, but at least I'm
Speaker 1: not like literally fighting for my life in a squid game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I always say, you know, I've had someone on
Speaker 1: this podcast too, had a you know, horrific the worst
Speaker 1: thing ever in the world happened to them, and he
Speaker 1: was saying how he and his wife then went to
Speaker 1: watch I think it was Hereditary or something like that,
Speaker 1: something really really scary and dark, and they laughed the
Speaker 1: way through it. They just felt like, well, it's not this,
Speaker 1: and you know, like they almost felt more connected to
Speaker 1: a film like that because it was like, yes, this
Speaker 1: sort of shit. Do you know what I mean? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about validating. Yeah, it's a hot take. I like that.
Speaker 1: Here we go, Rachel Blame. It's probably the reason people
Speaker 1: tune in. What's the sexiest film you've ever seen? Rachel Blaine. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's not the sexiest film. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's not the sexiest film I've ever seen, but it's
Speaker 1: it's defining in my sexuality and it's Austin Powers to
Speaker 1: the Spy shacked me. Oh that is a fucking great
Speaker 1: shout because it's so about sex. It came out, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was twelve or something and Heather Graham when
Speaker 1: they first revealed her. I was like, that's what people
Speaker 1: want and a woman, that's what I want to look like.
Speaker 1: And it really did, I don't know, define my sexuality
Speaker 1: in many ways. I mean, I agree, I agree on
Speaker 1: everything you've said. It is a very sexy film. Heathergram
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. Oh my god, she's so beautiful, unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: you're right, that is entirely a film about sex. It
Speaker 1: really is all the Austin powers movies are. I've got
Speaker 1: a subcategory question, Yeah, traveling, bonus, worrying. Why dons the
Speaker 1: film you found a rousing that you weren't sure you should?
Speaker 1: The Sound of Music please continue? And I mean, no
Speaker 1: one has ever been as hot as Christopher Plumber in
Speaker 1: that movie. No one who among us wouldn't want to
Speaker 1: be Maria having our virginity taken by Captain Vontra on
Speaker 1: our wedding night. What what's the key to Christopher Plummer
Speaker 1: in the Sound of Music? Why? Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: the guy in the world because because he's moodie, because
Speaker 1: he's like I think that a big female fantasy or
Speaker 1: maybe it's just me is like up. But you see
Speaker 1: it in fifty Shades are gray too, the idea of
Speaker 1: an emotionally problematic and reserved man who can be opened
Speaker 1: up only by one person. That's like we talk about, like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's a female fantasy. A bunch of hot, hot guys
Speaker 1: glistening on a beach. Now that's the male idea of
Speaker 1: a female fantasy. An actual female fantasy is Oh, I
Speaker 1: know he seems problem I know he's an asshole, but
Speaker 1: alone with me, he's not. Like, that's the fucking fantasy.
Speaker 1: And so like him with his fucking a whistle. And
Speaker 1: then when they're doing that, doo doo doo doo doo
Speaker 1: doo doo doo doo. Oh the fucking tension that earn.
Speaker 1: But both cases they're living in very fantacy. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: the fantasy of as as a lean. My writing partner says,
Speaker 1: I don't know she coined this, but it's the fantasy
Speaker 1: see of the capable man. It is. It is like
Speaker 1: the f it is, I think, this fantasy of somewhat
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity. He's rich, he's reserved, but you can you
Speaker 1: can open him up, you can find his vulnerability. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why I was into Rex Harrison and My Fair
Speaker 1: Lady I'll say it. I'm into Henry Higgins. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's why I'm into everything. Alan Rickman ever did The Based,
Speaker 1: Beauty and the Base. Why does she want him? He's difficult, exactly.
Speaker 1: He's difficult when he's got a castle. But that's you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of money makes you want to fuck a dog.
Speaker 1: One of the top answers we've had to that question.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You're welcome. What is objectively right
Speaker 1: to a plain, objectively the greatest film of all time,
Speaker 1: the very pinnacle of cinema. It might not be your favorite,
Speaker 1: but it's the greatest film. Oh yeah. I mean I'll
Speaker 1: be a basic bitch and say, I do think it's
Speaker 1: Castle Blanca. I mean, you're absolutely right. I just think
Speaker 1: it is. I thought about this and I think my
Speaker 1: favorite film is actually The Cabin in the Woods, which
Speaker 1: is a really specific answer, but yeah, I mean it's
Speaker 1: Casa Blanca. It's yeah, I mean, it's flawless. And when
Speaker 1: we think about it, like, is he emotionally problematic in Casablanca?
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah. Oh he's so locked up. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: And he's got a bar that's kind of fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a bar. He's mostly problematic. But also he's
Speaker 1: very good at sex. That's clear in the film. Yes,
Speaker 1: in the way that you might not know about Captain
Speaker 1: run Trap. Oh, Captain von Trap could be bad at sex. Actually,
Speaker 1: you're right, there's a version where like that guy's not
Speaker 1: that guy's not listening to your needs. He keeps blowing
Speaker 1: the whistle that sorry. Although okay, here's an argument that
Speaker 1: he is good at sex is that I feel like
Speaker 1: Barrett the baroness, you know who he's engaged to. She's
Speaker 1: been around, and she's not going to like fall in
Speaker 1: love with the guy who's bad at sex. So I
Speaker 1: I think, in fact, I think the Baroness taught him
Speaker 1: a bunch of things and made him better at sex. Yeah. Right,
Speaker 1: and she's a baroness. He's not moving for his money. No,
Speaker 1: she's got money. She's with him for the sex. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're right, she's taught him everything he knows. So basically,
Speaker 1: thank you to the baroness, says Maria. Thanks, yes, thank you,
Speaker 1: but also thank you for all you taught him. Deleted
Speaker 1: scene after you do the music Man. Maybe we could
Speaker 1: do the extended version of I really think we should.
Speaker 1: Let's just yeah, but cas Bank, we know he's good.
Speaker 1: We know he's good. That's why she's there. But he
Speaker 1: also is like, you know, your your guy that you've
Speaker 1: got to go with. He's probably not great, but I
Speaker 1: reckon the guy she's got to go with. I reckon
Speaker 1: he does well, it's not natural to him, but he
Speaker 1: knows put a certain amount of time in you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's I regine, it's quite regimented.
Speaker 1: But oh that's an interesting But I think he's like
Speaker 1: so fixated on his writing. I feel like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be fucking you less than he's just distracted. He's distracted.
Speaker 1: He's got like a bunch of other ship going on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think it's it's like sort of a
Speaker 1: set time. Yeah, he'll do it, yes, yeah, five minutes
Speaker 1: up here, five minutes down there, and then you know,
Speaker 1: I mean sort of laid out and I'd say it's good,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it works, it's serviceable. He's not missing anything.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like natural bizzazz that you get with Rick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree with all of that. What is
Speaker 1: what is the film that you could or have watch
Speaker 1: the most? Iver and Ivery? Again, I think I could
Speaker 1: still watch you Frame Roger Abbott over and over and
Speaker 1: over and never get tired of it. Nice. It's just
Speaker 1: it's fantastic. The first time I saw it, I we
Speaker 1: got the VHS from Blockbuster, and I remember watching it
Speaker 1: twice in a night. I was like in mid school
Speaker 1: and it was summer break, and during the summer I
Speaker 1: was allowed to have a TV VCR in my bedroom,
Speaker 1: which I wasn't allowed to during during school, which is
Speaker 1: a good move on my parents. And I just watched
Speaker 1: two Frame Roger Rabbit, I think two or three two
Speaker 1: times in one night, and then I watched it again
Speaker 1: the next night before we had to bring it back
Speaker 1: to Blockbuster. And I also had a lot of imaginary
Speaker 1: friends as a kid, and a lot of them were
Speaker 1: cartoon characters. So Who Frame Roger Rabbit is like my
Speaker 1: imaginary world come to life in which cartoon characters exist
Speaker 1: in the same world as people, and actually it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: My husband wrote the new Rescue Rangers movie that's coming
Speaker 1: out in May, which is basically like this. It's a
Speaker 1: world in which humans interact with cartoons like and pretends
Speaker 1: that and it is like kind of a Who Frame
Speaker 1: Roger Rabbit for a new generation and like, I can't believe.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it's getting made, and it got made,
Speaker 1: and I can't believe my husband wrote it. Fucking love
Speaker 1: Rescue Ranges. Yeah, it's it's really it's really trippy because
Speaker 1: who frame Roger Rabbit is just we have multiple posters
Speaker 1: of it up in our house. Did you have imaginary
Speaker 1: friends who cartoon characters pre seeing who frame Roger Rabbit?
Speaker 1: Or was it because no, see you were like it's
Speaker 1: all true. When you saw that, fan, I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the world I want to live in. Wow,
Speaker 1: what were you? Were your imaginary friends cartoons off the
Speaker 1: Telly or brand new inventions you've made? No, they were
Speaker 1: always they were always. I wasn't creative enough to make
Speaker 1: up people. Uh my my imaginary friends slash Later my
Speaker 1: husband was bonkers deep Bobcat from the uh Disney Afternoon
Speaker 1: show Bonkers, And it wasn't Yeah third grade and like
Speaker 1: I pretended it was like a deep, deep fantasy, like
Speaker 1: we were dating and then we got married and then
Speaker 1: like I definitely would like roll around my pillow and
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm having sex with Bonkers. I knew,
Speaker 1: because I knew that sex was a thing. But I
Speaker 1: didn't really know what it was. Yeah, it was a yeah,
Speaker 1: so you would talk out loud two bonkers have sex
Speaker 1: with bonkers, but like at school or just at home,
Speaker 1: like as in, were you talking out loud in school?
Speaker 1: Just at home? I only told one friend about like
Speaker 1: my bonker's secret relationship, and I was like, and I
Speaker 1: was like, don't tell anybody though, because I knew it
Speaker 1: was like kind of embarrassing. I love it. What I mean,
Speaker 1: I actually don't almost don't want to know this, but
Speaker 1: like when did it stop? And if so, was there goodbye?
Speaker 1: Did you and Bunkers get divorced or his bunker is
Speaker 1: still around? We didn't. He's not still around. That would
Speaker 1: be although you know what, can't rule it out. He
Speaker 1: may come back. I okay. I had a doll called
Speaker 1: him my twin doll, which is a doll you could
Speaker 1: get me in that looks like you that my parents
Speaker 1: got for me. And there was one time I pretended
Speaker 1: to give birth to my my twin doll, and that
Speaker 1: was mine and Bonker's baby. And then I think it
Speaker 1: ended shortly after that and it just stopped or you
Speaker 1: were like I need to take goodbye. No, it just
Speaker 1: kind of then like I don't know, it just all stopped.
Speaker 1: Like maybe I repeated the cycle a couple more times,
Speaker 1: but it was definitely like a cycle where like we
Speaker 1: were dating, we had sex, we got married at his baby,
Speaker 1: and maybe I repeated that like twice, and then at
Speaker 1: a certain point I would go through these rituals like
Speaker 1: I had a couple times I would do a Barbie
Speaker 1: wedding where I would have various different Barbies get married
Speaker 1: to each other. But like those were events. I remember
Speaker 1: making a friend watch my Barbie wedding and then she
Speaker 1: told me my Barbie wedding sucked, and I never wanted
Speaker 1: to see her again. But like once those Barbies were married,
Speaker 1: they were married, and that was cannon, now right, I
Speaker 1: think I know why bunks left, if I may. I've
Speaker 1: certainly heard in science that you know, baby evolutionary baby
Speaker 1: comes out. When it first comes out, it looks like
Speaker 1: the dad, so that dad doesn't leave. So the dad
Speaker 1: knows it's baby you gave birth to week, you gave
Speaker 1: birth to twit of yourself. It's a bunk because he's like, well,
Speaker 1: who the fuck, who's the fucking father? Ain't me? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got I'm gonna go back to being I think
Speaker 1: in the lapd which was what the show Barker's was about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the police for us, back to
Speaker 1: my first lab. Totally right. We don't like to be negative, right,
Speaker 1: So what's the worst film you've ever seen? The first
Speaker 1: ten minutes of Breakfast at Tiffany's, Oh boy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I could only watch ten minutes. And then the second
Speaker 1: Mickey Rooney was doing that, I was like, yeah, I'm out.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see this movie. It's wild that
Speaker 1: it's in'ssane, it's it is. It is insane that that
Speaker 1: was um even it was wild at the time. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there were protests at the time, but also like
Speaker 1: a cipher being wildly racist. Also like it's just not funny,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't the fact that that was ever
Speaker 1: like funny is Yeah, it's I wad that that's sutuly
Speaker 1: like classic film, people styled themselves and people took I
Speaker 1: heard about that film for years. I knew girlfriend's obsessed
Speaker 1: with it, and then you watch it and you go like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck. Yeah, I think there's the whole Audrey
Speaker 1: Hepburn allure, which like people have a thing for Audrey
Speaker 1: Hepburn's vibe in the same way they have for like
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe, she's just like kind of cool and sexy
Speaker 1: for sexy's sake, which like, isn't really my thing in
Speaker 1: anyone pool and sexy for sexy's sake. I don't. I
Speaker 1: just don't. I just don't get I just don't care.
Speaker 1: I just don't get it or care like I like her.
Speaker 1: I like Audrey Hepburn when she's in a good movie.
Speaker 1: I like Audrey Hepburn and Roman Holiday because it's a
Speaker 1: good movie. You like your Humphrey Boga. Oh I do.
Speaker 1: I do. Maybe it's that I'm just tragically straight and
Speaker 1: so I'm not into like the women. I think it's
Speaker 1: like the women, like if you're into somebody totally, I
Speaker 1: get people love marily Monroe, Audrey Hopper and they're sexy,
Speaker 1: but like, if you're not into women, it's the women
Speaker 1: who are, like I want to be like Audrew Hopper
Speaker 1: and I want to be like Maril Monroe. And they
Speaker 1: have like their phone cases, you know, our our Marilyn
Speaker 1: Monroe and they have pictures from like do you are
Speaker 1: you into her? Or what is this? Because Marilyn Monroe died,
Speaker 1: had a tragic life, Yeah, and really struggled. So what
Speaker 1: is this? What is this you're idolizing here? M yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the it's the it's the idea of mystery, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's the idea of happening mystery about you. But it's nothing.
Speaker 1: It's all the way, but it's an illusion. It's it's
Speaker 1: miss You're totally right, it's I want to be mysterious.
Speaker 1: From the male case, from the way men men look
Speaker 1: at me, because both of them were male sex objects. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my cuckoo clock going off. By the way, I
Speaker 1: have a little cuckoo clock. Is it just one one
Speaker 1: noise per hour? Or does it go nine times? For
Speaker 1: nine o'clock? Eight goes nine hyde clock. She was just
Speaker 1: going off one time to tell me it's on the
Speaker 1: half hour, she likes to tell me. And at night
Speaker 1: we can turn her off. Okay, there's little switch ever
Speaker 1: forget to him wake up in a panic screaming when
Speaker 1: it goes up in the morning. And luckily we don't
Speaker 1: hear her upstairs. Um, but if we have guests sleeping downstairs,
Speaker 1: it definitely wakes them up. What is you're you're you're
Speaker 1: in you're in comedy, you're a comedian. What's the funniest film.
Speaker 1: What's the film that made you laugh the most? Naked? Gun?
Speaker 1: Fucking great. It just continues to hold up the more
Speaker 1: and the more dated the jokes are, the more for
Speaker 1: whatever reason it holds up. It's fucking funny. It's just
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, and he's extraordinary. Lessie Nelson is extraordinary.
Speaker 1: That is an unusual thing that he is doing, and
Speaker 1: he does it perfectly. He's unbelievable because he plays he
Speaker 1: plays it straight so well. But yet there is in
Speaker 1: all those movies physical comedy where he can he turns
Speaker 1: on the ham machine just for like just a moment,
Speaker 1: and then he pulls it back. It's it's it's an art.
Speaker 1: And then even the O. J. Simpson of it all like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're seeing O. J. Simpson get like the shit kicked
Speaker 1: out of him. It only makes it better. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. But he has Leslie Nelson has that thing.
Speaker 1: I can't think of anyone else who really does it.
Speaker 1: But like he is being completely straight, completely serious, but
Speaker 1: there's something there's like a glint in his eye, there's
Speaker 1: something that you know he knows. It's funny. But at
Speaker 1: no point is he's not winking it. He doesn't. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is. It's so subtle, but there's
Speaker 1: something about him that's like, this is fucking funny, but
Speaker 1: he's doing it entirely straight. He just gets it. Yea,
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing. He's amazing. And Rachel Bloom you have
Speaker 1: been an absolute delight. However, when you were fifty five
Speaker 1: years old and you had a series of multi colored scarfs,
Speaker 1: and you much like our old friend Isidora Duncan, whoever
Speaker 1: that is, you had, you put on a scarf and
Speaker 1: you put another scarf. You're like, it's cold in it.
Speaker 1: It's cold, it's really cold, and you put on another
Speaker 1: scarf just in case, because you don't like to be cold.
Speaker 1: You got in your car and you got in the
Speaker 1: car and you were like, it's actually, really, this is
Speaker 1: too many scarves. You started driving for a wind down
Speaker 1: the window. I might lose some one of these scarves,
Speaker 1: and you tried to pull up one of the scarf.
Speaker 1: Scarf whipped out the window and you were going along
Speaker 1: the freeway and it was so fast the scarf whizzed
Speaker 1: out of the window, got caught in the wheel, but
Speaker 1: it was still round your neck, and I'd say, within
Speaker 1: a half a second, you'd broken your my neck. And
Speaker 1: then you crashed into five hundred trucks and the car
Speaker 1: exploded in a fireball and flipped three hundred times over
Speaker 1: four freeways. It was quite something. Series ser He's joining
Speaker 1: in and anyway, I heard this fireball, and I was like,
Speaker 1: where's Rachel Bloom? I was meaning to catch up with her.
Speaker 1: I'm walking along with a coffin, you know what. I'm like,
Speaker 1: just walking along the freeways and I see this, this
Speaker 1: fucking explosion. People clapping, They were like blood. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was very dramatic. And I go, what's going on? Was
Speaker 1: that Rachel Bloom? And they go yeah, And I go,
Speaker 1: oh shit, So put out the fire. I'm finding your carcass.
Speaker 1: It ain't good. I'll be honest. It's wrapped in scars,
Speaker 1: it's got bits of metal, it's got bits of tarmac.
Speaker 1: I've had to chop you up with an axe because
Speaker 1: so much if you stuck to bits partly into the coffin.
Speaker 1: I stuff you in my suck hand. But there was
Speaker 1: more of you than I was expecting, what with all
Speaker 1: the extra stuff or the barriers everything in a wheel anyway,
Speaker 1: there's only enough room in this coffin now for me
Speaker 1: to slip one DVD into the side for you to
Speaker 1: take across to the other side. And on the other side,
Speaker 1: it's movie night every night, and one night it's your
Speaker 1: movie night. What film are you taking to show the
Speaker 1: past to people of Heaven when it is your movie night,
Speaker 1: Rachel Blue? I think it's going to be who Frame
Speaker 1: Roger Ubb fucking great. I don't think that's been taken
Speaker 1: by anyone else, so people will be delighted. But if
Speaker 1: it is to be that, as it is Heaven, I
Speaker 1: will make a request that you when you watch it
Speaker 1: when it's your movie night, that bonkers gets to sit
Speaker 1: next to you and hold your out Thank you. Okay,
Speaker 1: Rachel Blue? Is there anything you'd like to tell people
Speaker 1: to listen to or look out for in the coming
Speaker 1: weeks and months? Oh? For me? Yes for you. I
Speaker 1: have a paperback of my book just got released, so
Speaker 1: by it hey and tell us what it is called again, please,
Speaker 1: It's called I Want to Be where the normal people are?
Speaker 1: And your show reboot will be out soon one day.
Speaker 1: See yes, I don't know. In the floor hopefully we'll
Speaker 1: see and you can watch a crazy ex girlfriend on Netflix,
Speaker 1: and you can look out for your live shows that
Speaker 1: you will be doing at some point soon. Yes, Rachel Bloom,
Speaker 1: what absolutely delight you've been. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: your time. I've loved this. Thank you for having me
Speaker 1: have a wonderful death you too. We'll see you soon,
Speaker 1: See you soon. Good day to you. So that was
Speaker 1: episode one hundred and ninety four. Head over to patreon
Speaker 1: dot com. Forward to Asprett Goldstein for the extra fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes of chat, secrets and video with Rachel. Go to
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Speaker 1: about the film that means the nice to you and
Speaker 1: why it's a lovely thing to read, and my neighbor
Speaker 1: Maureen absolutely fucking loves it. Thank you so much to
Speaker 1: Rachel for giving me her time. Thanks for scrooby pipping
Speaker 1: the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to Buddy Piece for producing it.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Akas for hosting it. Thanks to adding Richardon
Speaker 1: for the graphics at Listallden for the photography. Come and
Speaker 1: join me next week. Oh you know what's happening next week.
Speaker 1: It's the only time for a resurrection of one of
Speaker 1: my all time favorite guests. That's right, Punky Johnson's coming back.
Speaker 1: Look out anyway. That's it for now. Thank you very
Speaker 1: much for listening. I hope you're all doing well and
Speaker 1: in the meantime, have a lovely week, and please, now
Speaker 1: more than ever, be excellent to each other.