1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome with stuff 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: I've never told you your production for iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 2: And welcome to our second full episode of the year. 4 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna start counting down and I'm kidding because 5 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna forget all the numbers. But this is our 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: second one. But we wanted to take some time before 7 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: we really really jump into all of the deep research 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: and profound information we love to share, especially about Star 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: Wars and or my K dramas, to reflect on twenty 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 2: twenty three, because no matter what we have gone through, 11 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: is good to think back and think about the progress 12 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: we've made in our growth as not only podcasters, not 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: only women, but also just as people in general who 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 2: are surviving. 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: Am I right? Yes, yes, you are. 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: So with that. We're not. You know, We've decided to 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: stop trying to do predictions, which others will will do 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 2: and we're happy for them, because our last attempt felt 19 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: like we may have cursed ourselves and we don't want 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: to do that again. We don't want to do that again. 21 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: But we did want to talk about this past year 22 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 2: and talk about our phase of the year and what 23 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: we hope for the future, and hopefully we'll hear from 24 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: you all to let us know what you would like 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 2: from us, because we would not exist without you faithfully 26 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: listening and tuning in and then letting us know what 27 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: you think is good, bad, and better. 28 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah, just what you want to hear. We do. 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: Make a lot of content in a year because as 30 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: a part of this, we're focusing very specifically on like 31 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: the podcast specifically because we meant to do that, and 32 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: one of our final episodes of the year, and then 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: we just talked about the book the whole time, which 34 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: is great, but so this is more podcast focused. But 35 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: I was going back over all the episodes we had 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: done in twenty twenty three and if they just cover 37 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the gamut of so many things, which is great. I 38 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: love that we have this room to cover all of 39 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: these topics and try new things like the fiction, our 40 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: new segments. But it is a lot of content. So 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: it was kind of difficult to narrow down some favorites. 42 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: I'll say it was. 43 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: It was I definitely because like, also, I can't room them. 44 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I had to go back and read through things. 45 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, we did that this year. I 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: thought that was a year before last yes, that was 47 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: a lot of that. For me too, it was like, oh, 48 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 4: that was last year. Okay, souse, technically this will be 49 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 4: my fifth year. 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 51 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: On this podcast. March was the beginning of me coming 52 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: in here saying that I'm gonna stay March twenty nineteen. 53 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: To specify, yes, you can't just say March. 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Yes, you're correct, meaning that that would be my five 55 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: year anniversary. And just in case you were confused, because 56 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 2: you might not be listening specifically in this year, it 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: is January twelfth, twenty twenty four as we're recording this, 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: So forgetting that podcast exists online forever and not this 59 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: is not a radio show. 60 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 3: No confuse sometimes yes, but. 61 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: With that, yes, I do want to take some time 62 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: to reflect, and I thought we would do a whole 63 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: like what were your phase, what do you remember? What 64 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: do you have to do? Blah blah blah. So I'm 65 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: going to start off with the obvious. What was your 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: top three favorite episodes of the year? 67 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: Annie, Okay, Well, I think this is really funny because 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm very biased obviously with some of them. The Last 69 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: of Us Special I put part one because that was 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: the start of it and at the time we didn't 71 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: know it was going to become And so if you 72 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: go back and listen to that one, it wasn't clear 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: yet that we were going to do kind of recaps 74 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: after I clear to me, it was not clear to me. 75 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: But I loved it. I loved it that I got 76 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: to do that for work. That was so fun. And 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I sound like a child when I say this, but 78 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: when I get excited about something, I get so excited 79 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: that sometimes I can feel sick. And you heard me 80 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: talk about that recently, where I actually thought I was 81 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: getting sick. 82 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 3: From how excited I was from blasphemo. 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 2: Yes, every pre episode, every pre watching, you're nauseous and 84 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: sick and pacing. 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: You are pacing, Yes, And I've done that since I 86 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: was a kid. It feels I feel a little ridiculous 87 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: now that it's still happens, but it does still happen. 88 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: And like right now, Samantha knows, I'm giving her all 89 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: updates about what's going on with the casting of season 90 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: two and they're about to start filming it. 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: I just get so excited. But it was just. 92 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: For a lot of reasons. It was special to me, 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: But I never thought it would happen. I didn't necessarily 94 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: when I played the game, which I in part played 95 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: because of this show, because it was like an episode 96 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: Kristen Caroline did about women protagonists and video games. I 97 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: never thought it was gonna be a show, and I 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: didn't think it's gonna be a good show, and then 99 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: it was a good show and I got to do 100 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: a podcast about it, like oh Man. 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of which Nick Offerman won and Emmy four his 102 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: performances he. 103 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: Did, so did Storm read. Yes, they really cleaned up 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: at the first round of the Emmys. They were doing 105 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: the Emmys different this year because of the strikes, So 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: I believe this weekend is like the big Oh Okay. 107 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: I was really confused about that because I saw like 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: lineups of like the nominations and I was like, wait. 109 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 1: What, Yeah, they're doing it differently this year from what 110 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: I understand, And I don't want to say the big 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: because that sounds like what they did. Yes, but they're 112 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: splitting it up basically from what I gather. 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 3: But I believe it's this weekend, so we'll see. We'll see. 114 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: But that, yes, that was one of my big ones, 115 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: that whole mini series, but I just went with the 116 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: first one. The episode we did making space for being 117 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: ace because I feel like this year I really connected 118 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: with this label. I really settled with this identity. I 119 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: feel good about it in a way that like, I 120 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: had still been questioning so many things before, but this 121 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: year I really was like, Okay, no, this is it. 122 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: I like this. 123 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: And that was when that was an episode we did 124 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: where I just learned so much and it was one 125 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: of the first times I had done it. I had 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: done research on something like that after being pretty like 127 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: set in how I identify, So it was just like 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: a really it was kind of upsetting, but it was 129 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: also really I didn't feel I didn't feel so isolated 130 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: or alone. I was like, oh, no, this makes sense, 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: this makes sense, this makes sense. So that was a 132 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: really special one for me. And then again getting sick 133 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: about things I like to talk about so much what 134 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: Scream has to say about tech and media that we 135 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: did with Bridget. So I think we've described this before, 136 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: but Bridget usually the day of like sends an outline, 137 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: so sometimes we don't know necessarily what we're talking about 138 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:30,559 Speaker 1: our toes. 139 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: I do get. 140 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: Nervous because I'm like, oh, well, like, how intense is 141 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: this going to be? Like, what are we going to 142 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: be talking about what mind space do I need to 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: be in? And I remember when I got like an 144 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: hour before we came on this outline. I was so excited. 145 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: I think you can hear it in that episode. I'm 146 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: like shaking, I'm so excited. And it was so fun 147 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: because like a lot of times for this and I 148 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: think this is a great thing, but we we researched 149 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: a lot of what we talk about, which that's kind 150 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: of our brand, that's what we want to do. But 151 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: it was fun to be on the side of something 152 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: where I've done this research, Like I was ready. 153 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Ready not only has she done this research, but what 154 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: she says, she's done this research. It's been ten years 155 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 2: in the making and doing this research. 156 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, it was just so fun and I 157 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: got to be like I got to completely nerd out 158 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: about it about like, well you haven't seen the fourth one, 159 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: We'll let me tell you about this. Like it was 160 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: just a joy that I wasn't expecting, and yeah, I was. 161 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: I was. I was on top of the world during that. 162 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: It was quite fun to watch. 163 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: If you go back and listen to it, just keep 164 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: it like I think you can hear it, But I 165 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: was excited. I felt we got a bad because I 166 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: was like, am I taking over this episode's Bridges episode No? 167 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: And then just a couple a couple of honorable mentions 168 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: for me our fiction terminus, our ongoing fiction. The first 169 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: part had the final chapter, and I just felt like 170 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: that was a big I was like, oh, I've closed 171 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: the chapter in this book as they say. It just 172 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: felt like an accomplishment and I love doing those in 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: Christina makes them so amazing. The episode I did when 174 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Fandom Hurts, I just want to shut that one out 175 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: because so many people write into me about that one, 176 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and I almost didn't do it because I was embarrassed 177 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: about it. 178 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: So I think that was a pretty big deal for me. 179 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: And people are still talking about that, not just because 180 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: of what I said, but I see it online. Ongoing 181 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: conversation Women's Soccer with Whitney, my friend Whitney, because that 182 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: was really cool that we get to do that with 183 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: her speaking of someone who doesn't really need to do 184 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: the research. 185 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 3: Just knows it. 186 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: And then digging into the exiles of Lauren and Vegas 187 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: because we were in a box in Vegas and this 188 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: was when the Samantha couldn't come do you just scheduling conflicts. 189 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: Lauren was kind and stepped in and it was really fun. 190 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: But it was also just a memorable thing that happened 191 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: in the year. 192 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: That adventure. I'm glad I missed, Like I wish I 193 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 2: could have just been someone could have videotaped the interactions 194 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: that happened there, because everything else is like, no, I 195 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 2: don't want to deal with any of that stress. But 196 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: it was it sounded like such an amazing adventure to 197 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: have a story about, Like it's the story to tell. 198 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Yes, And uh, you know, I have one of those 199 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: digital frames and I put the pictures from that trip 200 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: on there, and every now and then I'll look up 201 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: and I see me in a glass box. 202 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:39,239 Speaker 3: What a strange job. 203 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: Such a weird It's such an odd, odd way to 204 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 2: like be like, this is my job. Yep, okay, I 205 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 2: love it. Well, my you know what, I'm kind of 206 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: cheating as you cheated with your honorable mentions, as you 207 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: typically do, because honestly, I think when we whenever we 208 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 2: do any interview and whenever we have a guest on 209 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: our show, I learned so much and I just like 210 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: thrive on the conversations that we have and then leading, 211 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 2: and this includes being with Bridget and Ease, who are 212 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: our monthly segment and are part of the fam. But 213 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: just this conversation and having a detailed look instead of 214 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 2: just researching, like having a deep dive into personals in 215 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: a person's activism or in a person's interest or whatever 216 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: their research or something that's important to them. I love 217 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 2: those conversations so much. So I've definitely had to put 218 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: on the interview with Rika Lebon, who is the Iranian 219 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: activists that have been working so hard and she's currently 220 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 2: I believe in the US as a lawyer here, and 221 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 2: her conversation was so in depth and so important to 222 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 2: talk about the things that were happening in Iran. There's 223 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: so much that's happened this year, and talking with her 224 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: and then talking with like Daris dark Tucker and her 225 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: conversations even about like the religious stuff, and I was like, what, Yeah, 226 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: was a phenomenal conversation. Of course, gotcha. Junie Fox who 227 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: came in and talked about her her community and the 228 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: First People's Nations and what they're doing and how they're 229 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: keeping their culture alive still in language and documentary and 230 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: all the things she's doing about the food. I'm really 231 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 2: excited to follow up on that. To be honest, stuff 232 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: like that that, when we get to meet people who 233 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: are changing the world or preserving history or you know, 234 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: making history, it is some of my favorite moments to 235 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 2: see and to have a conversation about when they dig 236 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: into something that they love. I thrive on that, like 237 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: I feed off that energy. I'm that energy vampire on 238 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: that one, because I'm like, yes, give me more, talk 239 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 2: to me more about this, and I hope we get 240 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: to have that for later. And of course that's really 241 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 2: later part of the segment. But so those two really 242 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 2: stuck out to me. 243 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: Those three. 244 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: The episode about the fanzines, I really it was so 245 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 2: nostalgia that when I went through that list, I was like, Yes, 246 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: this was so good because I love that it's coming 247 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: back and that people are remembering how important things like 248 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: this is, especially when we talk about how corrupt social 249 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: media can be and how all of our algorithms can 250 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: be seeing things that are fake, like having something like 251 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: this that is kind of still underground, it reminded me 252 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 2: of that once upon a time, I want to be 253 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: really punk. I was never punked, but man, because I 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: was kind of a part of that scene. I was like, yeah, 255 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm cool, that's right. Was I ever in those? 256 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: No? 257 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 2: But did I like them and purchased them? 258 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 259 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: But that was a really fun episode to me, And 260 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: of course our Haunted House episode in which we have 261 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: a back and forth and I lose my mind a 262 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 2: little bit in our conversations and you lose your mind 263 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: a little bit. And then the fact that we did 264 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: a one day adventure literally flying for one day two 265 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: days to La so that you can fulfill your dream 266 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 2: of going to bow haunted houses, which I loved every 267 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: bit of it. I can't It was a fun episode too. 268 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: We go through that, and I want to listen to 269 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 2: it because I'm pretty sure I'm a bit astraumatized. 270 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, it was very I was thinking about this 271 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: the other day because again I get so excited. Samantha 272 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: is like the best of all friends you could ever want, 273 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: because I wanted to go. It was the last of 274 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: us hunted house, and i'd heard the one i'd been to, 275 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: the one in Florida, and i'd heard the one in 276 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: California was different. And then that happened to me when 277 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 1: I was in Las Vegas, and I was like that's 278 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: a pretty quick fight. I can just hop over there. 279 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: And then Samantha of course came and even though she 280 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: doesn't like haunted houses, but I was so excited once again. 281 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: And I remember we did that video at the end 282 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: where it was like the before and the after. I like, 283 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: we know, I don't think we did, but it was 284 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: really funny because I was at the beginning. I was 285 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: so excited. At the end, I was so I remember saying, 286 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: I think it was the recording. I was like, wait, 287 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: am I supposed to have a different reaction? 288 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: No, you have yours. It was more for me because 289 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 3: I was like wow, I was like, uh, is the 290 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: point of the videos supposed to be like a very big. 291 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: Difference, Yes, for one of us at least, and it 292 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: was for me. It's kind of like because we did 293 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: the last of Us reaction, Yeah, a really sad episode. Yeah, 294 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: And so that as it was supposed to, which we 295 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: there's so many trends we have not done. We've let 296 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 2: our TikTok kind of just die. We need to get 297 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 2: back to that, I guess, yeah, okay. And then because 298 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 2: we also have our beloved segment of feminist movies Fridays 299 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: or whatever, days we decide to publish or what days 300 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: you wanted to listen. We had to pick out the 301 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: favorite movie of the year, like, it doesn't have to 302 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: be from that year, just what we watched in that year. 303 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well I mine is across the Spider Verse. 304 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: It was a Spoiled Saturday, so it counts. I think 305 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: it counts. 306 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: It counts, yes, I'll count it. 307 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: Yes, which is again was another fun one where I 308 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: got to really nerd out about like what canon and 309 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: fan and then headcanon are and I love I love 310 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: those movies. They're some of my very favorites. They're actually back. 311 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: This movie is coming back in theaters this weekend. Really, yes, 312 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: I think they're doing. I'm sure it's because it's award 313 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: season probably somewhere I related, but I just know it's 314 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: back in theaters this weekend. And that makes sense if 315 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: anyone happens to listen to it the day it comes 316 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: out and you're like, oh, I'll go, then it's. 317 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 3: An Imax not a sponsor. 318 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: But ye at the beginning, yes, none of these are 319 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: her sponsors. 320 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: No no, no, but there was really fine when we 321 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: can The Spoiled Saturdays are always fine. I love movies 322 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: in general, so I'm always yeah, pretty happy, but yeah, 323 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: that was that was a standout for me. 324 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I picked two that were nostalgic to me, and 325 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 2: honestly because I loved your reaction on one of them, 326 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 2: which was Twilight, and we really I think we really 327 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 2: missed the mark on that one because we should have 328 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: had Christina, our super producer, on there because she loved 329 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: it and it would have been her age group that 330 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: was the diehard. Don't get me wrong, I liked it, obviously, 331 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 2: I did, so I'm not saying anything about that, but like, 332 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 2: oh man, she had a whole email or. 333 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 3: Don't throw Christina the bus like that. 334 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 2: I got to because I want her on. I'm just 335 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 2: telling you like her love for this, but not only that, 336 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: Like I do want to go back because I think 337 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: they are now back online. I don't know why they 338 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 2: went off this marketing thing whatever. Y'all are driving me crazy. 339 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: Stop being so capitalist, Like, let us watch our movies anyway. 340 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: But I think the the later ones, the sequels are 341 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: on now on all of the streaming so I feel 342 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: like maybe this should be a giant episode and we 343 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: definitely have to have Christina on for that, so that's just, 344 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 2: you know, a future thing. But I loved your reaction 345 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: and I can't wait to see the rest the last one. 346 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: Oh my, I'm so we have to do it. We 347 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: have to do it. 348 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: I love when I almost chose that episode too, because 349 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: I had a great time. It was really fun for 350 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: me to also be on the other side of like, 351 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I know nothing about this. It's also really funny to 352 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 1: me every time we do this to our wonderful super 353 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: producer Christina, who has not heard this plan yet, but 354 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: she shall. 355 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: Ordinating. Yes, oh yes, I hope this happens. But also 356 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: I had to put in fried green tomatoes because it 357 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: is nostalgic to me. Watched it a long time ago. 358 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: I love making you watch things that I'm like, you 359 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 2: should have already watched us. 360 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 3: What is wrong with you? 361 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 2: I'm just kidding, but in my head. Because it's also 362 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: based in Georgia, so you know, it shines a lot. 363 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: I'm like it definitely, And we talked about the controversies 364 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: of it all, and that's also important to me that 365 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: we have these continued conversations so that we don't make 366 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: the same mistakes, or at least we recognize it and 367 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,199 Speaker 2: have a call out for it or a call in 368 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: for them. We can love something, but we can also 369 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 2: say this was problematic and this is this is the 370 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: reason why. So I chose both of those, but very 371 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: nostalgic to me, and I'm sure there's gonna be so many. 372 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm already excited about our new, our upcoming one because 373 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 2: it's one of those. I'm like, how have you not 374 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 2: watched this? And then I realized, because you know you're 375 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: you were a cool girl. Also, I think it's a 376 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: little bit out of your age range, right. 377 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: I don't know. 378 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about that one too, as you know, 379 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna help me with my fan fiction. This apparently 380 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: a lot of people right, fan fiction based on this film, 381 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: And you said what it is, but we're just gonna 382 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: tease it. 383 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 3: You're gonna have to wait. 384 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: If you didn't hear that episode, yes. 385 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: Yes, but I remember when it came out. I'm excited. 386 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to talk about it. I haven't seen 387 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: it yet, but I will obviously watch it soon. 388 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: So our next thing, of course, following the movies, would 389 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: be the books, our feminist book Club. What did you pick? 390 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: I chose gender Queer because yeah, yeah, And it was 391 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: another instance where I read it and I was like, 392 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: I'm relating to this really hard. I'm kind of surprised 393 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: about how much I'm relating to it. I think about 394 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: it pretty often. It's still unfortunately in the news a 395 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: lot when it comes to banning. Yes, but I just 396 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: loved it. I thought it was really sweet and I 397 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: just personally was like, oh yeah. 398 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 3: That was me. 399 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: The vulnerability and things like that in books like these 400 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: are so important and so beautiful, and it definitely is 401 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 2: owed recognition for all of that. I actually picked The 402 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 2: Goddess of Filth, and one of the reasons I picked 403 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 2: I'd love a good dark kill, and this was one 404 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: of those that were was just good and it was 405 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: just like wow, it kind of had moments of me, 406 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 2: like and I still think about specific scenes and specific 407 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: moments from that book now, Like as I was thinking 408 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: about this, I was like, yeah, oh yeah, like the 409 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 2: things that went through my head and just love kind 410 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 2: of the depth of the darkness of it. And I 411 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: was like, I need more of that. I need to 412 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: come to life. Not really because I'm kind of scared, 413 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 2: but no, no, no, I possessed, but the Goddess of filth, 414 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: but the tale so I could watch it per se. 415 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: But I really did enjoy that book, and I really 416 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: felt like when we do a good fiction, especially in 417 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: this level, that I'm like, yeah, we need to recognize 418 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: it more and we need more. I need more of these. 419 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: I need more of these books. 420 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was that one was a close second for me. 421 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: I loved that book and it was really nice too. 422 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: It's it was nice to read a shorter but very 423 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: like packs a lot in horror style book. I also 424 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: need more of those. I loved it because it feels 425 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: like the imagery was so good. I feel like I 426 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: have already seen the movie, you know what I mean, Like. 427 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: In my head, Yeah, it's imprints. Okay. Now that we've 428 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: kind of talked about some of our few of our 429 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: favorite things, we kind of wanted to take a moment 430 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: to talk about what we've learned or relearned in twenty 431 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,639 Speaker 2: twenty three. Annie, what are some of the things that 432 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: you have learned or relearned. 433 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: I did before I saw your answers. I wrote a 434 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: lot about Twilight. Weeded this before my YEP, a lot 435 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: about religious trauma. We did that whole mini series this year, 436 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: which I think We started in March and ended in December, so. 437 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: You know what a win is a win? We finished 438 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 2: in the year. 439 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: No win is a win. 440 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: But that's just how long we've been talking about this. 441 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I learned a lot about divorce actually 442 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: through that. Through that, and then we've been we've been 443 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: looking at doing an episode on divorce and books. Yeah, 444 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: for a long time. We haven't done it, but I 445 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 1: feel like I did a lot of research about it. 446 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: So with that and the religious trauma episode on divorce, 447 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: I feel like I learned a lot. I did learn 448 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: a lot about asexuality this year, especially from that episode 449 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: I mentioned. We also when I was looking back over 450 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: the episodes we did, we did a lot of tech 451 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: episodes this year. We started twenty twenty three with kind 452 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: Of It wasn't an official mini series, but I think 453 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: once a week we had an episode about like YouTube, 454 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: We had Twitter, AIBNB, COSA, Misinformation, VR, Spotify is docking, Yeah, TikTok, 455 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: just to name a few. So I feel like I 456 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: learned a lot about technology that's currently impacting our world 457 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: and changing very very rapidly. 458 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 2: I felt like last year was a huge year for 459 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: like the growth of technology and different types of mediums. 460 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: That has just blown up and it's become either accessible 461 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: or necessary. 462 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and I'm sure we're gonna keep talking about that. 463 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: I already have some some topic ideas around around things. 464 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: But I also amazingly learned a lot about the Star 465 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: Wars holiday special this year. 466 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Who would have. 467 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: Thought it was possible, but I did. I learned a 468 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: lot about haunted houses. This was a big year for 469 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: haunted houses, for me, for you. I learned about the 470 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: difference between podcasting and doing an audiobook. It's a very 471 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: different experience, and I it was reinforced to me the 472 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: importance of having a good, supportive co host. You've always 473 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: been so supportive some of the like the episode when 474 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Fandom hurt you, you were so great, So thank you. 475 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: Well, I will say also having you, I've thought about 476 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: this end of the day. I'm like, if you ever leave, 477 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 2: the show might end. I don't think I could pick 478 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: it up. And the way you have picked it up 479 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,880 Speaker 2: and the way you have like like literally made this 480 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 2: entire platform into what we have essentially, like you created 481 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: a lot of this and the way it works and 482 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 2: how it's definitely still going because I think I would 483 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: have given up. 484 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you saying that hopefully that won't happen, 485 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: but it was lost. 486 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: It was difficult. So I do appreciate you. 487 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: Because you do so much of the work and your 488 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: patients and you always constantly they are always constantly supportive. 489 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 2: So yes, good. I just love that we're friends too. Yes, 490 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: I was thinking about that the other I had this 491 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: like scenario in which I'm like, who would I invite 492 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 2: to these following things? And you're always the number one 493 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: on the list. Huh, yeah, my besties, mister who we 494 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 2: are besties. She's coming over to hang out with me 495 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 2: this weekend. I've already gotten food prepared, uh, because it's 496 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: been too long. But yeah, So for me, I learned 497 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 2: a little bit about the paramenopause thing I went through 498 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: and talk looking at through that and I'm now watching 499 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: every symptom that I have and now thinking maybe this 500 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: is very I really have to stop with this TikTok 501 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: thing because this messened me up. I think I have 502 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: learned about the Holiday special against my will in different 503 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: different scenarios. I've already been threatened to watch the documentary 504 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 2: of the holiday. 505 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: Well, so I am. 506 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: Both excited and both indifferent. I don't hate it, but 507 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I will be playing phone games during this time. 508 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: That's fine. 509 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: I can probably clutch onto me and say, oh my god, 510 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: this is amazing. 511 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 3: Did you see it? 512 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: And then tell me extra facts, which I'm I'm part 513 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: of my favorite part. Honestly. I learned a lot of 514 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 2: stuff about Korean feminism, and I was really excited because 515 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 2: we did a lot during the middle of the year 516 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: when we talked about what's happening with feminism in Korea 517 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 2: and how bad has gotten as well as how well 518 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: has gotten. So like it's both this fight between people 519 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: being more understanding and open to feminism to all of 520 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 2: a sudden backtracking because the government is backtracking with them. 521 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: So it was really interesting, but also about like the 522 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 2: women who are fighting super hard and the men, but 523 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: women uh to talk about women's rights. The feminists five 524 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: we talked about. I loved talking about them, and I 525 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 2: hope I can get more updates to see what's happening there. 526 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 2: And then also, of course we talked a lot about 527 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: the romanicizing culture of Korea, which is really dangerous. When 528 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 2: we talked about dramas and K pop and some of 529 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: the implications of society as well as the unrealistic ideals 530 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 2: that have perpetuated from Korea, and with that has been 531 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 2: a huge money market for them because of TikTok and 532 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: things like that, with their Korean beauty items and products, 533 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 2: which is based on unrealistic expectations. So I've learned a 534 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: lot about that good in the bed, I learned a 535 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: lot about the Last of Us, which I already knew 536 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 2: a big chunk because I have sat with Annie and 537 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: my partner to have at least three good playthroughs, and 538 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 2: I have to leave at least have like three times 539 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: out of the turn because it's too traumatic for me 540 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 2: that I can't watch this, So I have to leave 541 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: maybe four. How many times have y'all played through this 542 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 2: trying to remember you made me present? 543 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can. I've done at least I know. 544 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 2: You've done many on your own, and I believe friend 545 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 2: of the show and friend in real life, Marissa and 546 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Katie are like, we want another one. 547 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, oh, dear, yeah, we were talking about 548 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: that this this morning. 549 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 550 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 551 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: They want to do a marathon at the show, and 552 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: the people can't. People have a lot of thoughts about this, 553 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: but the remaster of the second one is coming out. 554 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: This is the twenty night, so I am going to 555 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: replay it. But yeah, it's a it's an endeavor. It's 556 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: an endeavor emotional. 557 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: Again, so I've learned a lot. I have also learned 558 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: that I can handle haunted houses. Would I choose to no? 559 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: But can I yes? 560 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 3: So there, yes you can. 561 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 2: And you know, with all of this, we I think 562 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: have been very transparent about things being stressful, things being overwhelming, 563 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 2: any of that, and as part of what we do, 564 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: we do want to talk about how we did or 565 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 2: I guess maybe didn't handle our stress this year and 566 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 2: talk about it for a second. 567 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 568 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny because when I was thinking about this, 569 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: I was remembering the episode we did previously the previous 570 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: year about the same thing, and I think most of 571 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: it is the same stuff. 572 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: But I don't know how to feel about that. 573 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: This is the year I started publishing fan fiction his 574 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: first time, and I've gotten a lot of comfort from that. 575 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: And honestly, it's like a I thought it was gonna be. 576 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna have a much more negative experience. 577 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: I thought I was going to get like really in 578 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: my head and people would say something that's kind of like, 579 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: oh this wasn't for me, and I would spiral out, 580 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: but Efferen's just so nice. 581 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 3: Now I'm worring. I'm getting like too big of an ego, 582 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 3: too big of a fan fiction ego. 583 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: Yes, games like The Last of Us, which some people 584 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: that blows their mind. They cannot understand why a game 585 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: that makes me like sob openly several times is something 586 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: I do when I'm stressed. But I feel like it's cathartic. 587 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, the world is really bad, let me 588 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: cry at something and it makes me feel I know 589 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: it's not for everybody, trust me, but for me that 590 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: does help. 591 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: I do have to plan when I'm going to do it, though, 592 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 3: especially certain scenes. 593 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, lots of soups, uh soft comfy clothes. I've 594 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: definitely caught myself more than I normally do this time, 595 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: being like I just want to real something really soft. Yes, 596 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: my favorite movies, games, music always. I got another Star 597 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: projector so now I have three and it's yes, the 598 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: new one is very fancy stretching. I don't do it 599 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: as often as I should, but when I do it, 600 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm always like you should really be doing this more. 601 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 3: Your body is tense, ca you sttch. 602 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: It all this year, I'll sound of just exercising. Oh no, 603 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: it's maybe I should put that in my list. 604 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: I try to do. 605 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: It if I'm watching you know, Star Wars with a 606 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: million sim would last, but I tried to do it. 607 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 3: When it's like, my if you're going to do this again, 608 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 3: you better stretch. 609 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 2: Like it's a good reminder. 610 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 611 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I did hang out with more people this year than 612 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: I have since the pandemic, I would say, and it 613 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: was very fun. It was somewhat stressful, but I I 614 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: do love hanging out with my friends, so it was 615 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: something that helped me release some stress. I got a 616 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: lot of good venting done. You know you're you'rech and wine. 617 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:39,719 Speaker 1: As you say, it was very hard thing. 618 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 2: I love of those. Yeah, I feel like I've reconnected 619 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: with a few of the friends that I haven't seen 620 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: or talked to them more of a regular. Two of 621 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: my friends, Ones and Halifax and ones in England, we 622 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: decided to get a actual thread going instead of each 623 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: of us just individually, so like we're actually communicating a 624 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 2: little more and I love that. Yeah, I missed them. 625 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 2: I need to see them all often, Hey Elizabeth, and 626 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 2: she doesn't listen to the show. Hey Michelle, she sometimes 627 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: listens to the show. Hey, I don't blame you for me. 628 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: I've been binging a lot of K drama, a lot 629 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 2: of K drama. I think that's almost all I've watched, 630 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 2: even though recently I watched a lot of holiday movies 631 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: that were English speaking. The Holiday was in there, of course, 632 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: because it came back on Netflix out of nowhere. For 633 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 2: a while, it wasn't on there, and then I'm like, 634 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,400 Speaker 2: oh it's back. 635 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 3: Haha. 636 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm like it, jerks. I've been keeping the peace of 637 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: my mind just by just staying at home. I'm like 638 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 2: the whole new like I've always been good about, Yeah, 639 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm not coming and not trying to stretch my filt 640 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 2: self then in general, like I typically once upon a 641 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 2: time I used to do all that, but now it's 642 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: just more of like a maybe i'll come, maybe I 643 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 2: won't keeping everything real like Lucy Goosey unless it's like, oh, 644 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: it's your birthday, I'm definitely coming out or something like that. 645 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: But like, well sometimes I've definitely canceled on that to 646 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: I just thought of that. But like having moments of like, 647 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 2: you know what, I really don't need to be out 648 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: right now. So I've been doing that and just again 649 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 2: sitting and watching kikrama. Uh, lots of texting and making 650 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: sure to keep up with my friends through texts. Yeah, 651 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 2: that's it. Like so I have seen my friends, which 652 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 2: is nice, but like more so than I'm like, you 653 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna pop in with a hey, how 654 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: are you send a little gift and then move on. And 655 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 2: then I'd been doing still keeping up with my Zomba 656 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 2: and cardio jam, trying to be really cautious because it's 657 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: still it is. Covid is rampant, as well as all 658 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 2: the other respiratory things that are happening, flu which has 659 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: hit my family pretty hard, all those things, but still 660 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: needing that again. I laughed because that was a TikTok 661 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:58,280 Speaker 2: about calling Zoomba clubbing for the genetic ers or millennials. 662 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, yeah, because you want to dance, but 663 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: you don't actually want to go out anywhere. This is 664 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 2: as close as it gets. And then of course the 665 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 2: phone games. I am no longer beefing with beefing with Anastasia, 666 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 2: and I want to fight her, but it's okay. I'm okay, 667 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm okay. Clearly this is not stressful at all. As 668 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 2: well as my cozy games, which we talked you and 669 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 2: I talked about, like we downloaded a couple of like 670 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 2: uh sequels to a few of the cozy games we played. 671 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 2: I haven't done it yet, but I'm excited because I 672 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 2: want to get back to it. 673 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't been able to. I haven't been able 674 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: to play them either, but I want to. Where does 675 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: the time go? 676 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just waste so much time watching k dramas 677 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 2: that you have to kind of pay attention to that. 678 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: Because I'm not fluent in Korean. I'm now packing up 679 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: a lot more probably not necessarily helpful phrases, but still 680 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: I'm picking up a lot more. But h so you 681 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 2: have to actually read this subtitles. So I'm trying to 682 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 2: figure that out. Yeah, And I'm thinking overall, just trying 683 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 2: to let go and try to think through any of 684 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: the stressors about why I'm stressed, because oftentimes it can 685 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 2: be biological the anxiety that rises in me, and trying 686 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: to play through that as well and enjoying the fact that, yes, 687 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: I'm older. I don't love getting older. But I do 688 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: love being able to like be an adult and decide 689 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 2: for myself how it's going to go that day for 690 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 2: a lot of things, you know, Yeah, yeah, absolutely, let's 691 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: talk about what we hope for the new year, as 692 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: in like twenty twenty four. What are some of the 693 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 2: things you're hoping for, you're looking forward to any of 694 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 2: those things? And then I read your site, by the way, 695 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, this will be easy, and I 696 00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,800 Speaker 2: looked at your. 697 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, Yeah, well it is a presidential year here 698 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: in the US. That's all I'm going to say about it. Yeah, 699 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 1: but I feel like a lot of us are very 700 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: we're waiting for it to really hit. How stressful that 701 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: will be. So hopefully that will go the way that 702 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: we want. 703 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: That the stressful, but for what's better. 704 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 1: For what's better? Yes, that's all I'll say. About that 705 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: plague of cicadas. So I actually love cicadas. So it 706 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: sounds menacing. I'm sure for many of you it is. 707 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: Right as I read this what. 708 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: So one of the first episodes I did when I 709 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: started as an intern at what was then How Stuff Works, 710 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,959 Speaker 1: So essentially like I've stayed in that position. Ish, it's 711 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: just the company has changed hands so many times, so 712 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: it's like I've never that has been my job. Like 713 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: it's hard to explain, but I so that's what I 714 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: was doing. At the time, I was editing podcasts, and 715 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: that's when no one really knew what podcasts were. One 716 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 1: of the first episodes I ever edited was on cicadas 717 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: and how weird they are, and I had all these 718 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: cicada sound effects. But this year two broods. So okay, 719 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 1: can I talk about cicadas for a second, right? Cicadas 720 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: come out every like thirteen years, three three years. It's 721 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: very interesting biological clock they have. They're underground and then 722 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 1: thirteen years comes up and like brood whatever will come 723 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: out for that year, and they there's so many and 724 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: they make that sound to basically like it's kind of 725 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: amazing thing, but it's also there's so many of them 726 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,360 Speaker 1: that the predators will be attracted to the weaker sound 727 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: so that they'll survive. Anyway, two of the broods this year. 728 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: They're both prime numbers, but they're both gonna come out 729 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: this year because that's just how. 730 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: It lined up. 731 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: And it's rarer than like it's been like since the 732 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, since this has happened. 733 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 3: It's very very rare, Samantha. 734 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 1: But this year they're coming out, and they're coming out 735 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, so you're gonna see alessicadas. 736 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for this information. I'm glad to know, so 737 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: I'm not panicked. Also, to sound the way you're describing, 738 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that was on a Supernatural episode. 739 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,800 Speaker 2: It's so cool. 740 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 3: It's so bizarre. 741 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking about? You know what 742 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,240 Speaker 2: I'm talking about? 743 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 3: I think so. 744 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 5: Not then is the one where they're the humans are 745 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 5: acting like cicadas. Oh oh, I think it's based on 746 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 5: a Mexican folklore. 747 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 3: Oh. Interesting. 748 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not gonna look at that. I could be wrong. 749 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: It is very fun if you have any interest at all. 750 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing a poor job of explaining. How you know. 751 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: You did a great job. I just don't like bugs, 752 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 2: so fare I'm more horrified than anything else. But I think. 753 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: Somebody somebody sent it to me and they're like, oh no, 754 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is the coolest thing. 755 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 2: That's where I'm like, I will stay inside. I'll stay inside. 756 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's definitely I'm going off the rails. 757 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: But they back at my home in North Georgia. When 758 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 1: the cicadas come out, they'll just blanket the walls the 759 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: like the garage door, you would open it and it 760 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: would be cicadas. So I get it's not like the 761 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: most fun comfortable thing. My cousin, who's from a family 762 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: of much more money than me, he came to stay 763 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: with us once and I told him about like you 764 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: got to check your shoes for scorpions, and then he 765 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, what is this? And then 766 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: that night he heard the cicadas and he called his 767 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: parents the next day and he was like, I can't 768 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:55,960 Speaker 1: stay here. 769 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,240 Speaker 2: They are loud. They are really loud Georgia. They're so loud. 770 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry about that. 771 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: In terms of the show specifically, I'm looking forward to. 772 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:11,919 Speaker 3: I'm with you. 773 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: I love the collabs we get to do. They do 774 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: make me nervous because I get intimidated, but I do 775 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: love them, so I hope that we get to do 776 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 1: more of that. Also, shout out to listener Lou who 777 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: came on our Sex and the. 778 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 3: City was really fun. 779 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 2: We're going to do that again, y'all going be as 780 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: elongated as you remember last time. 781 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: Yes, we're going for it though, we'll get there. That 782 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: was really fun. We have discussed some of these clubs. 783 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: We've talked about possibly doing some like live events. Not 784 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: that many, but yes, that would be fun. As mentioned 785 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: in a previous episode, I am interested in getting more 786 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: merch for the show, maybe going to some conferences. We 787 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: always have funny stories from them. Our Lazy River fiasco 788 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: I will not soon forget, and I yeah, just continuing 789 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: to I love that we get to do so many 790 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 1: different things. I like that we have like our kind 791 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,239 Speaker 1: of segments that are ongoing, but then we also have 792 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: things where we get to try new things and things 793 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: that's really fun. 794 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: I will say for myself, better work life balance. But 795 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: I've been trying that for. 796 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: A long time and I haven't succeeded, but I feel 797 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: like I'm getting a better idea of how I could 798 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 1: make it work. 799 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 3: It's just because our jobs happen all the time. Yeah, 800 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,240 Speaker 3: Like it's. 801 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Like like I'll be lying awake at five am and 802 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm like in my head working and I think everybody 803 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: does that, so it's not like unique. But trying to 804 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: find a way to maybe consolidate my work hours because 805 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: they're so spread out right now. 806 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, working from home. What are you in jobs 807 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 2: like this? Working salaried a bit so much? I will 808 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 2: say when I worked at DJJ, I worked a lot, 809 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: but I stopped. I was like, yeah, I'm done not 810 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: talking to you. I'm not doing this unless it's an emergency, 811 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 2: of course, but yeah, right, yes, yeah. I think for me, 812 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 2: my hope for the new year would be that we 813 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 2: get more good news. More stories on how humanity still 814 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 2: exists would be lovely. I guess some of those sometimes 815 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,919 Speaker 2: and it's nice to see. I want more of those, 816 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 2: and I'm hoping for more of those as this election 817 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 2: year is happening and so many huge things have happened. Unfortunately, 818 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: the US is not looking pretty and then participating in 819 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 2: war crimes. So but you know, a turning out of 820 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 2: the tide where more and more people realize that the 821 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 2: power we have or we can have over those who 822 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 2: have power based on wealth is something that I also 823 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: feel like could happen, especially with the fact that gen 824 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 2: zers are giving me so much more hope. Maybe it's 825 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 2: just seeing some of them coming through. I'm like, wow, 826 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 2: y'all are way smarter than I was back then and 827 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: still am, and y'all are just like firing on all 828 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: cylinders and our activism to the tea and I love that, 829 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,800 Speaker 2: and I love that more and more people of color 830 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: are coming out as leaders, and I mean that for 831 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 2: the U like they're actually talking and being bold. I 832 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 2: love to see that. So I'm hoping that that will 833 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: grow and continue to grow because that is what we need. Uh. Yes, 834 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,879 Speaker 2: like I said before, like you said just now, more 835 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: collapse interviews are nerve wracking because I also get nervous, 836 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 2: you know, when I get really fangirly and I start 837 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: stuttering and talking very fast. But they're so good and 838 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 2: so informative, and I love hearing other people's perspective. It's 839 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: just it's always something fun. Like the one thing that 840 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,400 Speaker 2: I do miss out when I don't interact is learning 841 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: about people and learning about their their lives because it's 842 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: so interesting. People are interesting and what they love and 843 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 2: what they grow with or what they want to do 844 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 2: or how they what they've done is phenomenal. If they 845 00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,359 Speaker 2: left cicadas, even though I'm petified of this, I love 846 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,840 Speaker 2: hearing about how excited you are about it, Like that's. 847 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: Best to an episode. Can we find a woman who's 848 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,919 Speaker 3: like a specialist of cicadas. 849 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's gonna be you and her. It's 850 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 2: gonna be I'm gonna be calling it sick. I'm just kidding. 851 00:44:59,000 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 852 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 2: And then more in interaction with our listeners. Yes, we 853 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: do want to do another interactive Sex and the City watch. 854 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,600 Speaker 2: Maybe we could do something else. I don't know, because 855 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 2: we'd love to eat those, watching those and having a 856 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 2: conversation and good, good talks about what we've learned through 857 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: these episodes or since these episodes. I love that, and 858 00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 2: having more of our listeners. Of course, we love the 859 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 2: listener mails when y'all send in things and tell us 860 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 2: about what's happening with you or something that you love 861 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 2: or something that you're learning. I love that so much 862 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 2: when we connect on something that we talk about, one 863 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 2: of my favorite things, honestly. And then also with our 864 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: fellow hosts and co workers. I'm hoping again, Yes, we're 865 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 2: doing bigger collabs, getting together in person, because I don't 866 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 2: think I'm seeing Christina or Maya or Joey, and like 867 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 2: you've never met Joey. I finally got to meet them. Yeah, 868 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 2: in person, But I hope that we can all get 869 00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 2: together at least once this year. It'd be nice. We'll 870 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,880 Speaker 2: go to go to New York. Hey, Maya, can we 871 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: go to New York as Smithy trip? 872 00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 3: Yes? 873 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 2: And then also I would love to get together with 874 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 2: Bridget We've talked about that, like repeatedly. You got to 875 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 2: see her in Las Vegas. I was very jealous of that, 876 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: but also hanging out with Ease. I don't think we've 877 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,880 Speaker 2: talked person to person. We've done of course the Skype stuff, 878 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 2: but would love to get together with her, have another 879 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: cheesecake and champagne day. Ye lovely day. 880 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: I was thinking of it. 881 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're hitting another milestone on the shide, 882 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: but I think literally I think we. 883 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 2: Need I think we need to bring it in and 884 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: I guess we're could be at the studio because we 885 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 2: technically haven't seen it since it's been put together like that. 886 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 2: I guess we should go do that, but also hoping 887 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 2: to bring in more people because we love as much 888 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 2: as I love me any of being together of like, oh, 889 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: there's other people that work here that don't know I 890 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 2: work here, So having crossoverss is what I'm saying, more 891 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,799 Speaker 2: so than anything else. Some people that out love that 892 00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen in a long time, got to finally 893 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 2: see Lauren from also from Savor and brain stuff like 894 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 2: I want to do more of that. 895 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And we had a great time with Lauren 896 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: on the Diehard episode and. 897 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 3: Fun time, so yeah, I would love that. I would 898 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,319 Speaker 3: love that too. 899 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: And I have to say, like going back over all 900 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: the episodes we did this year, it is true that 901 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: when we have guests like they generally I mean generally 902 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: sounds like I'm calling someone out. They like change my 903 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,799 Speaker 1: I'd like follow them on social media. I'm not on 904 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: social media a lot, but they do. I do it, 905 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: and it becomes like a part of my life. Like, 906 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: so it is important and we love having that, and 907 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 1: we do love hearing from you listeners. You send so 908 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: many amazing things and put on our radar things I 909 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: hadn't known about, and I love it. So we definitely 910 00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: want to know what you would like for this year. 911 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 1: Any suggestions, uh, what you'd like to see more of, 912 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: less of, see you more, hear more of you know 913 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,240 Speaker 1: what I mean. 914 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,720 Speaker 2: Because we do technically have a TikTok. 915 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 3: We just would you like to see more of any crying? 916 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 3: It's like, essentially it's like me, isn't it? 917 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: Like mostly me crying and then wars you something. 918 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want to do that. I don't 919 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: want to be here. 920 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're on TikTok more. I'm not even on 921 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: talk so Samantha, Yes, that'll be funny. Yeah, we'll see 922 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,360 Speaker 3: all right, We'll. 923 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: Let us know, please, because we do love hearing from you. 924 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: You can email us at Stephanie and mom Stuff at 925 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: iheartne dot com. 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