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Speaker 1: Billy and Mikeyya.

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Speaker 2: As we sit here today, there is one team without

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Speaker 1: That is the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 2: No one wants to go there. Seattle is hired a

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Speaker 2: head coach, Ben McDonald. It seems like no one wants

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Speaker 2: to Washington job. And I'm including Bill Belijack. Mike Lombardi,

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Speaker 2: who worked with Belichick, knows him very well. Three time

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion, former general manager, is going to join

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Speaker 2: us here in just a second. Because he's written a book.

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Speaker 2: He is setting record straights.

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Speaker 3: If only Washington had an OC who was constantly trying

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Speaker 3: to get a head coaching job.

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Speaker 2: It was interesting the Lions offensive coordinator was going to

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Speaker 2: because he wants to finish the job of the Lions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's crazy, that's dumb. Well, but people aren't

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Speaker 2: speculating that he knew that he was not getting the

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Speaker 1: And he played that's.

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Speaker 4: Smart, that's smart. I can't break up with me if

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Speaker 4: I break up with you.

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Speaker 1: It's so great.

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Speaker 2: So Mike Lombardi's going to join us, and I was

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Speaker 2: thinking because Lombardi is not his real last name. We

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Speaker 1: And he's great. So it's not his real last name.

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Speaker 2: He chose the last name Mike Lombardi, not Mike Lombardi.

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Speaker 1: His first name is Mike. That's his real first name.

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Speaker 2: He chose Lombardi, Okay, And that last name comes with like,

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Speaker 2: it seems like a hassle to be called Lombardi because

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Speaker 2: you're constantly asked, Hey, are you related to Vince?

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Speaker 1: Like are you of the Lombardi family?

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Speaker 2: And that seems like it would carry I don't know

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Speaker 2: a lot of stress with it. And I'm wondering if

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Speaker 2: I've thought about it with the last name Wiener, what's

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Speaker 1: Billy, is there a last name? Do you agree with me?

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Speaker 1: First off, that Lombardi seems like a hassle.

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Speaker 3: It seems like it has It's like, uh, there's positives

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Speaker 3: and negatives, right, because it seems like you definitely have

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Speaker 3: this expectation, right, But also there's the confusion factor that

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Speaker 3: you can benefit from, you know what I mean where

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, Lombard, Like I mean, just in speaking

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Speaker 3: to you, you've often told me, if a Lombardi's available,

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Speaker 3: you always book a Lombardi.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point.

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Speaker 2: I also feel like if I feel like, if you're

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if his name was Mike Johnson, it'd

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Speaker 3: But if his name was Mike Johnson, I wonder if

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Speaker 3: I think he was great, always great, So yeah, but

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Speaker 2: So you're right, there's good and there's bad with and

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Speaker 2: you have to pick and choose when you use it

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Speaker 1: License, yes I'm related to Vince.

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Speaker 3: Have you seen like the have you seen the famous

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Speaker 1: While being Bronni James.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like that. That seems like like

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Speaker 3: Jordan's the name of basketball, right. You don't want to

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Speaker 3: you won't want to be a Jordan. Yeah, but there

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Speaker 2: There's not a lot of Lombardi's, you know, and so

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Speaker 1: I could walk around with the name John Jordan and

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Speaker 2: No One's gonna ask me if I'm related to Michael

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Speaker 2: you know, does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: More common? Last name you know.

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Speaker 3: So you think like, if there's another Belichick not Steve, like,

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly right, or don't choose that as a last

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Speaker 5: I don't want a last name Jordan. They did a

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Speaker 5: but it wasn't the real Michael Jordan, right, and everybody

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Speaker 6: I would hate that.

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Speaker 2: Did you see on social media the footage of Jordan

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. He could score twenty eg right now. If

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Speaker 1: I were the Nicks, I would sign him.

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Speaker 3: I would What what age to guys, as you being

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Speaker 3: someone who's slightly older than us, what age is it

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Speaker 4: Because it seems like that's like it's sixty with Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. Right, Like I'm in my you know,

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Speaker 3: like pretty much everyone around me looks more or less

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Speaker 2: Like fifty fifty Okay, yeah, forty five fifty somewhere in

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Speaker 1: It's Tom Brady.

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Speaker 2: Like the fact that that guy's, like, for you, younger

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, like he looks great, Billy.

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Speaker 3: No, but Michael Jordan's a worse example because he's older

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Speaker 5: Yes, Yeah, but Tom Brady's a bad example because Tom

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Speaker 5: Brady has spent his whole life like with the with

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Speaker 1: Like this at this age, and like that's that's that's

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Speaker 6: Norbody who lived and was like that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So Jordan's barely trying. Like you could see there's

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Speaker 2: that stuff. I know he plays a lot of golf.

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Speaker 2: He likes to have fun. Michael Jordan likes to have fun. Okay,

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Speaker 2: But Jordan still looks better than I at the age

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Speaker 1: Age of fifty, and it drives me crazy. So that's

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Speaker 4: Is Tom Brady sports Rob Low?

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Wow, Billy, that might be the best question you've asked

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Speaker 5: on this show.

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Speaker 1: Build that out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Explaining to the to the audience who doesn't know who

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Speaker 2: Rob Low is, why you're saying that, Well, that's said.

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Speaker 4: If you don't, but how I'm gonna explain it to you.

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Speaker 1: But you don't have to explain it to me. But

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Speaker 1: there are people in our audience who have never heard

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Speaker 3: Well, go to Google dot com and you'll probably know

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Speaker 3: who Rob Low is as soon as he has faced,

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Speaker 3: but like Rob Low in Parks and rec like play

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Speaker 3: But he's like almost obsessed with like his youth and

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Speaker 4: Or something like that, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Fifty?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So is that Tom Brady?

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Speaker 3: But because I believe Roblow is like that in real life? Like,

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Speaker 3: so is that what Tom Brady is?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, body's version of that.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question.

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Speaker 2: Mikey A is right, and I believe Tom Brady is

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Speaker 2: the Rob Low of the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Rob Low. You should see him in sat Almos Fire.

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Speaker 2: A movie from the eighties. Oh my god. And here's

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Speaker 2: the thing. He looks the same today.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: I was actually gonna ask you, Rob Low is like

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Speaker 3: the rare looks better now, right, yes?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, getting better with age, yes, And it's hard to

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Speaker 2: playing the guitar on a stage.

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Speaker 1: At a local bar in DC.

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Speaker 2: Oh, the life that you're looking it up right now,

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Speaker 2: Eli is in that movie. I think cast it's a

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Speaker 2: great movie, Billy, you should watch it.

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Speaker 4: Emilio, I man, I'm bummed. I feel like I feel

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Speaker 2: Well, when you watch sat Almost Fire, you'll you'll be

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Speaker 2: his career is crazy.

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Speaker 1: He's had a disappointing career. You're right, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't I don't want to put it like that to.

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Speaker 6: The Mighty Ducks and straight down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just was that was it a possibility that

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Speaker 3: like Emeliot he reached that he obviously had like growing

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Speaker 3: up the success, right, and he's Charlie Sheen's son or

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Speaker 3: Martin sheen son, Yeah, Charlie Sheen's brother. But he had

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Speaker 3: brat pack or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Is that what they were called?

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Speaker 6: Like that guy?

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Speaker 4: Yeah he was in that, wasn't he?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: So like he had that initial success and then he

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Speaker 3: And is it possible that the Mighty Ducks was too

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Speaker 3: Imagine imagine if Emilio Estevez had not taken that role

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Speaker 1: What's the last movie, Emilio, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Do you think that he thinks about that? Let's see right.

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Speaker 1: What a movie? Unbelievable, Philly. You gotta see it all right?

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Speaker 3: So as an actor he has that says, one up

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Speaker 2: He was Yes, if that's his last movie that, Billy,

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Speaker 1: Let's see just a Mighty Duck this.

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Speaker 3: There's this one thing called Guns three alias Billy the Kid.

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Speaker 6: But there's no is it Young Guns three? Is that what?

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Speaker 1: You gotta say it. Billy the Kid, he's on it. Listen.

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Speaker 2: He plays in a rock band. They played a local

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Speaker 2: He's got a bandana on at DEMI more.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, what a movie.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what the Young Guns franchise is.

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Speaker 1: I know? I mean Young Guns was good the first one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in. He's He's in Guns three, as is

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Interesting, are you gonna watch san now? Mos? Billy,

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Speaker 4: it's even streaming. I'm definitely watching it on the flight.

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Speaker 6: Watch it on the flight, yes.

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Speaker 1: And report back to us nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 3: That's a that's an ask that good year they ask

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Speaker 2: of Santelmo's fire. Huh.

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Speaker 1: They have like four movies.

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Speaker 4: They had like three or four of those movies together, huh.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Breakfast Club. You know, they dominated him

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Speaker 6: Sixteen Candles, which was the one.

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Speaker 3: Which was the one that was the end of their run. Like,

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Speaker 1: It may have been I'm not sure. It's a great question.

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Speaker 3: There there's a movie that was the last one that

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Speaker 3: end of that, right.

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Speaker 1: Like they all did together.

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Speaker 4: You're saying, yeah, there has to have been a final one. Okay,

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Speaker 4: here we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Emilio Astive has Anthony Michael Hall, Rob Low,

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Speaker 4: And then I have.

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Speaker 4: But that's like man the originals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, that's not that's like, you know, that's basically uh,

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Speaker 1: Leaving alone.

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Speaker 2: It looks back by the way, this fear in Vegas, Billy,

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Speaker 2: We're going to the super Bowl next week in Vegas,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, anyway.

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Speaker 3: So there there's oh wow, So here there's close contributors

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Speaker 3: not Ralph Maccio, Get out of here, John Cuzak, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: eighty three. Okay, that's where the brat Pack got there

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Speaker 3: start and then you're right, oh, I'm looking at it right.

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Speaker 2: Sixteen Candles was a great shout out by Mike.

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Speaker 3: The real brad Pack movies though, are The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 3: and Saint Elmo's Fire because all these other movies have like, eh,

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Speaker 3: Pretty in Pink Only had no Pretty in Pink Only

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Speaker 3: Saint Almos Fire was the all star game of the

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Speaker 4: It was yes that had everybody.

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Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, that had everybody but Anthony, Michael Hall,

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Speaker 3: Then we get to nineteen ninety and in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 2: I feel like once it got to say that almost

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Speaker 4: Well, it went downhill. It went downhill from there.

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Speaker 3: So saying almost fire, then you had Pretty in Pink,

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Speaker 3: you could still say, okay, pretty in Pink, even though

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Speaker 3: Last Night came out and that was just Rob Low

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Speaker 4: Oh that's what that's what happened last night.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and every night.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay.

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Speaker 1: John Belushi was in that movie?

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Speaker 4: Really is he? Is he involved in in any of this?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 2: He was Rob Lowe's friend who can't stop playing softball

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Speaker 2: to get with Demimore because he wants his best friend.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you something. And this is a weird transition.

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Speaker 3: If you did a movie naked, right, Like, if you

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Speaker 3: watched it back? Would you watch back like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: look how great I looked. Or would you watch it

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: I mean I watched back me dressed up as Larry

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Speaker 1: I could barely get through that. You think I can

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Speaker 4: No, that was not peak. I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: If you if you go my prime, yeah, in your prime, like,

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Speaker 2: Central asking do you think Rob Low goes back and

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Speaker 3: I know I'm not asking that, but I'm saying if

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Speaker 3: then you go back at like fifty five or whatever, right,

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Speaker 3: and you watch it and you're like, oh, like, do

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Speaker 3: you watch it back with probably like oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I looked great, or you're like, oh wow, I've fallen off.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 1: There's no chance I watch it and say to myself, wow,

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Speaker 3: No, but you're missing the point. It's not you. It's

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Speaker 3: not your present form.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, I understand I'm all in.

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Speaker 4: The form now.

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Speaker 3: But if I'm back and be like, oh I'm in

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Speaker 6: You watch it, you feel better about yourself?

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Speaker 1: No, there is no way.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, right, fifty, it could be my fifty

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Speaker 3: Of present day you'd be disgusted with yourself.

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Speaker 2: If I today, at the age of fifty, were to

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Speaker 3: Because you think that you at twenty I think that

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Speaker 2: watch themselves in their prime having sex thinking they look good,

445
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Speaker 2: thinking they look bad?

446
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Speaker 1: Would they be? Okay? Isn't that what you're asking?

447
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,520
Speaker 4: Like if you're an actor, not like graphic stuff, you

448
00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:32,520
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like just like, okay, you.

449
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,360
Speaker 1: Know yeah, I think Rob Low looks back, Jim.

450
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Speaker 3: You look at like there's there's my butt, you know

451
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Speaker 3: what I mean? Like you look back, you see your

452
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 3: butt and you're like, oh wow, like I had a

453
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Speaker 3: good looking butt back then.

454
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, really, Mikey is shaking his head. No, no, no,

455
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Speaker 1: but Rob Low does I mean?

456
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying, Rob Well, Rob Low still looks

457
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Speaker 3: like Rob Low though. Okay, let's let's let's rewind one Okay,

458
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Speaker 3: let me reask this one more time. Okay, see if

459
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Speaker 3: I can get it the right way, thank you, Emilio

460
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Speaker 3: este Yes, if Emelio Westevez looks back at one of

461
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Speaker 3: his movies, let's say, I don't know, mighty, no, no.

462
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Speaker 4: You're just making this all pornography. That's not what this is.

463
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Speaker 3: Let's say, oh geez, okay, let's say The Outsiders, right,

464
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Speaker 3: Hold on a second, let me see all the Outside

465
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Speaker 3: of as was.

466
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Speaker 4: Hold on, let me just make sure.

467
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Speaker 1: Houtside is a gang movie.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean so nineteen they came out in nineteen eighty three,

469
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Speaker 3: he was twenty one years old. Yes, let's uh, that's

470
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Speaker 3: for the sake of not being creepy. Say uh, say

471
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Speaker 3: Almo's Fire, which is nineteen eighty five, he's twenty three

472
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Speaker 3: years old or something. Right, Let's say, for whatever, I

473
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Speaker 3: haven't seen the movie, but let's say he's in a

474
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Speaker 3: state of unclothed. Actually I know is not which mikey,

475
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Speaker 3: By the way, how's that coming along?

476
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Speaker 6: We'll get back to it.

477
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Speaker 4: We're working on it.

478
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Speaker 3: Okay, he's gotten to it, Mike, yes, Yes, the peak, Mike, yes,

479
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Speaker 3: to do a calaglendar.

480
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Speaker 4: Who don't know?

481
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Speaker 1: So, Amelia Westvez, let's.

482
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Speaker 3: Say he's insane, almost fire, and his butt comes out

483
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Speaker 3: right like and there's my butt, you know what I mean? Yes,

484
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Speaker 3: and now Emelia Westavez is sixty one or however, loyalty

485
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Speaker 3: is right. Do you think he looks back at himself

486
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Speaker 3: when he was twenty three and he's like, man, I'm

487
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,639
Speaker 3: glad I had a good butt back then. Or do

488
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Speaker 3: you think he looks at at himself and he's like,

489
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Speaker 3: my butt looks horrible now, Like, no, I think I'm depressed.

490
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Speaker 2: So yeah, No, I think he looks at the age

491
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Speaker 2: of sixty one, he looks back at himself and says, man,

492
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Speaker 2: I had a great ass.

493
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Speaker 4: That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking.

494
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Speaker 3: Like I don't I sometimes I look back at myself

495
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know, it's not pictures of my butt,

496
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Speaker 3: but like I see myself when I was like twenty

497
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Speaker 3: two years old, and I was like, I wasn't.

498
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Speaker 4: I wasn't I wasn't horribly ugly.

499
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Speaker 2: And what I'm telling you is doesn't matter what age

500
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Speaker 2: you go to. Okay for me, find a picture of

501
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Speaker 2: any age. And what I'm telling you is I don't

502
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Speaker 2: look good at least I don't think so I don't

503
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Speaker 2: have a butt.

504
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Speaker 1: Oh it's very flat.

505
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Speaker 4: It's a good intro for Michael Lombardi.

506
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Speaker 6: I gotta tell you about that.

507
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Speaker 1: We never chose the last name.

508
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Speaker 6: That's all I was trying to do.

509
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Speaker 1: And now I'm talking to as.

510
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Speaker 4: Mike, do you have advice for Stuts because is.

511
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Speaker 3: Working on his own personal record book that he's going

512
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Speaker 3: out and as someone who's set the record straight yourself,

513
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Speaker 3: do you have any tips for him as he goes on?

514
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Speaker 7: Yes, I think that the tip is is to to

515
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Speaker 7: say what you think and back it up with information

516
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Speaker 7: and then let them all come after you.

517
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Speaker 2: You know, I say what I think, Mike, I just

518
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 2: don't back it up with any information.

519
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Speaker 1: That's the issue.

520
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what I issue. Yeah, I could see that

521
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Speaker 7: being a problem. But look, it works out for some people.

522
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Speaker 7: I mean there's a lot of people on Twitter that

523
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Speaker 7: have no information that think they know all the answers.

524
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Speaker 7: So you know, you'll be in the basement, eat meat

525
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 7: little it's no problem.

526
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

527
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Speaker 1: But I think I'm the only person where it's worked

528
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Speaker 1: out this well.

529
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Speaker 2: Okay, this is this is really like having no information

530
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Speaker 2: is working out swimmingly for me.

531
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Speaker 7: You know, I don't think so there's a lot of

532
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Speaker 7: people in the NFL that falling forward. If you want

533
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Speaker 7: me to that that that book, I didn't write that

534
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Speaker 7: book yet. I mean, that would be the book to

535
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Speaker 7: how to fall forward most successfully. Walsh had this great grade.

536
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Speaker 7: He wrote about it in Paul Zimmerman's book The Thinking

537
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Speaker 7: Man's Guide the Football.

538
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Speaker 2: Uh.

539
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Speaker 7: He talked about it all the time. He talked about, well,

540
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Speaker 7: the owner doesn't really know a whole lot, and he

541
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Speaker 7: listens to the president, the president listens to the general manager,

542
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Speaker 7: and they all sit around drink martiniz. They do all

543
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Speaker 7: this stuff, and then the next thing you know, they're

544
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Speaker 7: telling you the coaches and any good. So they fire

545
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Speaker 7: the coach to hire a new coach, and the whole

546
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Speaker 7: thing goes over again.

547
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Speaker 3: The NFL is, let's go, let's go through that list

548
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Speaker 3: of the people who failed forward, Mike, what do we

549
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: have on that list?

550
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Speaker 7: Yeah, curiosity, Yeah, we got them. You don't have, Billy,

551
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 7: You don't have to take You can just look at

552
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Speaker 7: the one loss records. Just go to that. Ask your

553
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 7: self that question, who's like, who's in mediocrity for a

554
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 7: long time, but it's never lost their jobs. You come

555
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,520
Speaker 7: up with the list. You don't have to be You

556
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 7: don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to come up with

557
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Speaker 7: that list.

558
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Speaker 2: Huh, billy mediocrity. Yeah, what do you define That's a

559
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Speaker 2: great question. How do you define that?

560
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Speaker 7: In the NFL? It's pretty easy. I mean, you know,

561
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Speaker 7: team below five hundred. I mean, like, okay, do we

562
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Speaker 7: think the Cowboys are successful? They're fifty four page team

563
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Speaker 7: since their last Super Bowl? Yeah, I would say that

564
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Speaker 7: they're not riddled with mediocrity, but they're not riddled with

565
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Speaker 7: ultimate success.

566
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Speaker 4: True.

567
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Speaker 2: You could say the same about Mike Tomlin and the

568
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: Steelers though, right, well, but.

569
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Speaker 7: Tomlin hasn't had a losing record, He's above five hundred.

570
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Speaker 7: I mean, Harball and Tomlin are exactly the same in

571
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Speaker 7: the numbers. Harball doesn't catch any heat. He's three and

572
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Speaker 7: six in the playoffs, and same as Tomlin. I mean,

573
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Speaker 7: it all depends on what the narrative is. It all

574
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Speaker 7: depends on, you know, are you willing to you know,

575
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Speaker 7: are you been nice to the media. You're nice to

576
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Speaker 7: the media, then they won't say wor and be like

577
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 7: Rob Rivera and have three winning seasons after thirteen years

578
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Speaker 7: and nobody thinks you should get fired.

579
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Speaker 2: There it is Billy you wanted to name. Mike Lombardi

580
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: is with us. He has a new book out Football

581
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Speaker 2: Done Right. Why'd you write this book, Mike? To set

582
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Speaker 2: the record straight.

583
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Speaker 7: Well, no, I really, I'm trying to honor some of

584
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 7: the things that have happened in this league before. Let's

585
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Speaker 7: take an example for a second. We saw thirty thousand

586
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Speaker 7: people go to Ford Field, Okay, this past weekend. Thirty

587
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 7: thousand people left their houses, went and set an uncomfortable seats,

588
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Speaker 7: paid twenty dollars for a beer to be around other

589
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Speaker 7: Lions fans. Now, that just didn't happen because Dan Campbell

590
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 7: came on the scene. That just didn't happen because Brad

591
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 7: Holmes came That happened because there's great history in the

592
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Speaker 7: Detroit Lions, and Fox did nothing to explain the history

593
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Speaker 7: to us, Like there is a guy who's going to

594
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Speaker 7: go in the Hall of Fame named Buddy Parker, who

595
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 7: invented nickel defense, who invented the two minute defense, who

596
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 7: invented a lot of situational football. If you go to

597
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Speaker 7: al of AMA's practice when Nick Saban was the coach,

598
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 7: or New England when Bill Belichick was the coach and

599
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 7: they called for their nickel defense. There was a position

600
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Speaker 7: called the star the inside slock corner. That star came

601
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Speaker 7: from Buddy Parker, and yet we never mentioned Buddy Parker.

602
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 7: So this book really is my attempt, on a very

603
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Speaker 7: small voice that I have to try to highlight some

604
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Speaker 7: of the greatness that has happened in this league in

605
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Speaker 7: the past that we have no sense of urgency to acknowledge.

606
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Speaker 7: And we had the perfect opportunity to do it on

607
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Speaker 7: Sunday when Fox was there and we flashed all those people.

608
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Speaker 7: We could have explained to the fifty five million people

609
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Speaker 7: who watched that game why their pat Lion fans are

610
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Speaker 7: so passionate because of their history. And we've never choose

611
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Speaker 7: to do that. We always ignore the past as if

612
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Speaker 7: it's just going to go away, and I think it

613
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 7: was just so many opportunities that have gone and so

614
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 7: this book is my attempt to do that.

615
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Speaker 2: Very interesting, Well, I ask you more about it in

616
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Speaker 2: a second. But Mike, you have been around the NFL forever,

617
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Speaker 2: all right, you're a three time Super Bowl champ being

618
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Speaker 2: you're a former general manager. If I told you, I

619
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Speaker 2: don't know ten years ago, there would be a Super

620
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Speaker 2: Bowl one day being played in Las Vegas.

621
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Speaker 1: You would have told me what I.

622
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 7: Would have told you, what Al Davis told me, is

623
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Speaker 7: that there's going to be a place here. He would

624
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 7: always go to Las Vegas for one of his five

625
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 7: year birthdays, whether he termed seventy, seventy five or eighty.

626
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 7: He loved Vegas, you know, he loved to go there.

627
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 7: He loved the shows. But he saw it as a

628
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 7: place that could could have football because he didn't see

629
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Speaker 7: you know, his best friend was Jimmy de Greek. He

630
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 7: didn't see gambling as the behind the scenes, oh my god,

631
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 7: it's this filthy profession. He saw it as people like

632
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 7: the stock market that you know, you're betting on things

633
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 7: and you're basically playing the odds. So yeah, ten years ago,

634
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 7: I would have said that because of him, only because

635
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 7: of how And look, let's face it, the reason we

636
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 7: have all these people watching the game today is because

637
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 7: they have money on the game.

638
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: Right fair Yeah. And Taylor Swift.

639
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, and she brings a whole other element to it,

640
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 7: which is great, a great element.

641
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: Yes, right, I mean we.

642
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Speaker 7: Now, I mean the players are all benefit from this

643
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 7: because this has now become worldwide. Yeah, I mean this

644
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 7: has become. She's not just an American star, she's a

645
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 7: worldwide megastar. And so now you're bringing people in from

646
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 7: everywhere that didn't know much about football that now start

647
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 7: to love it.

648
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Speaker 2: Mike, I know you have a great relationship with Bill Belichick,

649
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: so I know when I ask you about Belichick.

650
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: Your response is going to be an informed one.

651
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: So I will ask you that simply, what is going

652
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: on with Bill Belichick?

653
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 7: Well, I think what's going on with Bill Belichick is

654
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 7: people are scared to hire them. I think people are

655
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 7: what we call George Young, the former general manager of

656
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 7: the New York Giants, had this line. He said, people

657
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 7: guard their desk in the NFL. I want to guard

658
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 7: their desk. I mean, here, you are the Washington football team.

659
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 7: You have a horrible stadium, you haven't had a winning

660
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 7: team in a long time, You've had a horrendous culture,

661
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 7: and you don't even choose to interview the coach. You're

662
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 7: going to change your culture with some young coach who's

663
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 7: never coached before, and then you're going to go out

664
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 7: there and tell everybody still guys that we're trying to win,

665
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 7: that we're committed excellence. We're going to win and you

666
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 7: don't even interview Mike Rabel or Bill Belichick. So I

667
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 7: think a lot of people are scared. They feel like

668
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 7: Bill must be power hungry, when in reality, Bill's culture hungry.

669
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 7: Bill wants the ability to build his culture. And they

670
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 7: think he's too old because they've never spent any time

671
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 7: around him. If you spend a day with them, you

672
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 7: don't think he's too old because he'll outwork pretty much everybody.

673
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: Right, How important is it to Bill that he catches

674
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: Don Schula here?

675
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 7: I don't think that, you know, I would say. In

676
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 7: twenty fourteen, I read a book called The Obstacle is

677
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 7: the Way by Ryan Holliday and I called Holiday. I

678
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 7: didn't know him at all. I called him on the phone.

679
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 7: I tracked down his email and I said to him,

680
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 7: I said, you just wrote the best book on Bill Belichick,

681
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 7: and the book's really about Marcus aureli Is because Ryan

682
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 7: is from that stoic. He has the daily stoic every day.

683
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 7: And he said, I didn't really said, well it really

684
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 7: is in Belichick are very similar. They only live in

685
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 7: the moment. Belichick will work as if he's going to

686
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 7: work next year, but he'll work this year. Is if

687
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 7: he's still working. So I don't think. I think it's

688
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 7: about the work. I really do. I don't think it's

689
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 7: about the record. People say you're crazy. No, I think

690
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 7: he loves the work. I think he It would be

691
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 7: like saying to Picasso, you can't paint anymore, right, like

692
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 7: Picasso loved the paint, like you know, and so like,

693
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 7: I think it's about the work.

694
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: Do you think he's going to struggle, like if he

695
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: has to take a year off, like finding something to

696
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: occupy his time with.

697
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 7: No, I think no. I know he won't because I

698
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 7: think he'll He already has five projects that he's going

699
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 7: to work on. Like he's already probably has four hundred

700
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 7: players written up from the draft going into this draft.

701
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 7: He's been working on it all year, so he writes

702
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 7: up every single player. So he's just going to keep

703
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 7: watching tape. He's going to keep studying it, and he's

704
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 7: going to keep growing. Look, here's the question I have

705
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 7: for you guys, and you bring Bill the Adam Peters

706
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 7: who's now the general manager of the Washington football team.

707
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 7: Is he really qualified to interview Bill Belichick who knows

708
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 7: more football? Bill that there's your answer?

709
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: Why not getting a job, Mike, Is it possible that

710
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: Bill doesn't like any of these jobs and is waiting

711
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: for the right job to come open, whatever that job.

712
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 7: Might be, I think Bill it would be. I think

713
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 7: Bill knows he can make any job the right job. Look,

714
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 7: when he went to New England, it wasn't the right job.

715
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 7: People said when he went to New England. You know Bobby.

716
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 7: You know they had Bobby Greer and the run in

717
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 7: the personnel department. That was the guy that Parcell said

718
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 7: was doing all the grocery shopping, you know, and so

719
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 7: and he wanted to have a cook a meal. I

720
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 7: think Bill knows one thing about Bill that I've been around,

721
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 7: that Bill understands whatever assets he has, he's got to

722
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 7: figure out a way to win. Now. Last year without

723
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 7: a quarterback, it was a really challenge.

724
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: Do you think Andy Reid is there any chance he

725
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: wins to the super Bowl? Even if he doesn't win.

726
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: Do you think, at the age of sixty five, there

727
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: is any.

728
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: Chance that Andy Reid steps down after the season.

729
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 7: I don't see that because Andy Reid He's gone through

730
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 7: a lot of personal tragedies in his life, the death

731
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 7: of his son, his son, having that car accident before

732
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 7: the one Super Bowl. I don't see I think Andy,

733
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 7: like Bill, loves the work. I think Andy loves the work.

734
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 7: I think Andy's invigorated by the work. I don't think

735
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 7: Andy has an obby other than doing State farm commercials.

736
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 7: I don't know what. He's not a golfer, you know,

737
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 7: I don't know what he's going to. What would he

738
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 7: don't you know where? It's like Nick Saban having been

739
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 7: with Nick and Cleveland together when we were all there,

740
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 7: Nick had hobbies. Nick would play golf. Nick loved the

741
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 7: stock market. Nick's got five car dealer ships. He's got

742
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 7: a hotel in a Tuscaloosa. Nick has a lot of

743
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 7: things outside of football that he can get himself involved in.

744
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 7: Bill and guys like Bill and Andy, they're all just

745
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 7: their football lifers.

746
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's why Billy asked you that question.

747
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: Because Belichick he's got a dog.

748
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: He visits the.

749
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: Naval Academy, I mean, and he gets ready for a draft.

750
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: That's all he does.

751
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, Well, but he's going to do the

752
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 7: same thing. He's not going to change even though he's

753
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 7: not going to be involved with Here's what happens to

754
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 7: you when you're out of the NFL. If you don't

755
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 7: study the draft, when you come back in the NFL,

756
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 7: you're a year behind. Interesting, and he doesn't want to

757
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 7: be a year behind.

758
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 1: Hmm.

759
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: So he's going to be working as though he was

760
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: a head coach while not being a head coach.

761
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 7: He's going to do what he does all the time.

762
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: Sure he is, Yes, yeah, because Billy he knows he

763
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: was going to be a head coach again. At some point.

764
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, at some point, somebody's going to

765
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 7: call him. At some point, somebody's going to be you know,

766
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 7: Springsteen has this great line sometimes I can't tell my

767
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 7: courage or my desperation. Some team's going to have have

768
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 7: to be desperate. You know that. Right now they might

769
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 7: have the courage to call him, but some team's going

770
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 7: to be desperate.

771
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: It's going to be the H and three Jets. Mikey A.

772
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, did you you know, like there's a

773
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 7: perfect example. I don't know if he would work there.

774
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: I see your logo in the back. There takes a

775
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 7: lot of guts to put that there. You know what

776
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 7: I always say about Jet fans. The greatest thing Jet

777
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 7: fans are like with a great line Dean Martin had

778
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 7: about people that didn't drink. Dean Martin used to say,

779
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 7: when people that didn't drink woke up, that's the best

780
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 7: they're going to feel all day. Jet fans when they

781
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 7: wake up on Sunday, that's the best they're going to

782
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 7: feel all day. That's what I say.

783
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 6: But how do they season?

784
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 7: Oh, you're going to win it? How are they? How

785
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 7: did they keep a coach with a thirty three percent

786
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 7: winning percentage? And if you read that article in the

787
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 7: Athletic and the paranoia that's in the building, like are

788
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 7: you committed to excellence there? Or you just committed Aaron Rodgers? No?

789
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're committed to Aaron Rodgers. We have no other choice.

790
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean, excellence. What are you out of your mind?

791
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: So there's another one, Billy, give you another name, Robert Sallas,

792
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: tell us a job.

793
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: There's another name.

794
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 7: You defend them.

795
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't defend them, No, I would take checking a heartbeat.

796
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 6: He's how would you not do that?

797
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 7: How would you not a great share?

798
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 4: I'll tell you that.

799
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, and he runs the steps before the game,

800
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 7: that's sure.

801
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, But Mike, you know why he's there because Aaron

802
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: wants him there. And that's it. That's the reason. I mean,

803
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: I would.

804
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 7: Think Aaron would be if winning is important, then you

805
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 7: would make their call. But don't tell me winning's important

806
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 7: and don't make the call.

807
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: What do you make That's it's a great point.

808
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: What do you make of Jerry Jones his comments, the

809
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 2: way he's treating Mike McCarthy.

810
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: It seems like he wants to get rid of McCarthy.

811
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: It seems like.

812
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: Maybe Dak's not going to get an extension after the season.

813
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: What do you make of how Jerry is running the

814
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: Cowboys here?

815
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 7: Well, I think Jerry, like a lot of eighty three

816
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 7: year old people, don't want to change, right. I mean

817
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 7: it's hard. You know, I got a ninety seven year

818
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 7: old father. You can't get him to do nothing. He's

819
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 7: going to do the same thing every day. So change

820
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 7: is hard for older people. And I think Jerry's comfortable

821
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 7: with his organizational structure, and in fairness, I think Jerry

822
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 7: knows that the national media has misevaluated his team. Everybody

823
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 7: says McCarthy underachieved with the team. I think McCarthy overachieved

824
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 7: with the team. I don't think they're that talented. I

825
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 7: think their offensive line has severe issues. When they go

826
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 7: on the road. They have a hard time blocking people.

827
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 7: I don't think their defensive front nor their defense was

828
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 7: as good against anybody. Seattle went up and down the

829
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 7: field all them. They lost their best corner, they lost

830
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 7: one of their linebackers. They know Lawrence and Parsons are

831
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 7: good players, but tell me who else they're playing Jonathan

832
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 7: Hankins who got cut by the Raiders. So I think

833
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 7: there's a misconception and that they're this talented team. Pollard

834
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 7: wasn't the same player this year that he was last year.

835
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 7: It's not even close. It's not even close. So I

836
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 7: think under I think they overachieved. Actually, and I think

837
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 7: Jerry saw that too. Like you can say, get rid

838
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 7: of Mike, that's great, but who are you going to hire?

839
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 7: And and now I got to change how I operate,

840
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 7: and I just kind of want to see if I

841
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 7: can think I can turn this around. And Dak had

842
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 7: his best year. You know how all off season everybody

843
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 7: said when they lost the great Kellen Moore, that this

844
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 7: whole thing would collapse, there would be no offensive football

845
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 7: in Dallas, and that McCarthy was the worst play caller

846
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 7: in the history of football. They got better, they got better,

847
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 7: right We haven't seen nobody said that they got.

848
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: Better right now.

849
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: It's a fair point who Mike has the best organization

850
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: in your opinion top to bottom owner on Dawn.

851
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: Who has the best organization in the NFL?

852
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 7: Well, I think you're seeing the two teams that do.

853
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 7: Because you know, for all the talk that you can't

854
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 7: give the coach control of the team. The two teams

855
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 7: in the Super Bowl, the coaches control everything. Like I know,

856
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 7: John Lynch is the general manager of the forty nine ers,

857
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 7: but he works for Kyle. Remember Kyle hired him. He

858
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 7: works for Kyle, Kyle's contract, he has complete say over everything.

859
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 7: And then and Andy Reid's the same thing. Brett Beach

860
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 7: works for Kyle, works for Andy. And I think, to me,

861
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 7: that's the structure that works the best.

862
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: Right.

863
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 7: It doesn't mean that the head coach is making every

864
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 7: player personnel decision or doesn't listen to people. It's the

865
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 7: team runs through the head coach, and so I think

866
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 7: their organizations are still two of the top. I think

867
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 7: you know, when you look at the teams that have

868
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 7: been successful over the last five years, they're all the

869
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 7: same type of teams. You know Detroit, he's given them

870
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 7: a culture right now, they've had to handle success. We'll

871
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 7: see where that goes.

872
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 6: You know.

873
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: I think that the Philadelphia has been very good because

874
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 7: they've been very good at helping the head coach. So,

875
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 7: you know, Seattle, I think now with Mike McDonald, I

876
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 7: think John with John Steider there, I think that's a

877
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 7: good organization. They'll fix it there. I think they'll turn

878
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 7: it around. And then, of course, you got to give

879
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 7: the Rams credit for what they did this year, because

880
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 7: that wasn't a talented team.

881
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: How about Baltimore? They have to be in that conversation,

882
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: right they do?

883
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I think Baltimore's another team that overachieved. I mean,

884
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 7: when your two best players on defense are Kyle van

885
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 7: Nuyan's and Javion Clowney, who you picked up off the

886
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 7: street in August and September, what does that really tell

887
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 7: you about your talent level?

888
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike again, football done right.

889
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: His new book is out.

890
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Mike Lombardi, three times Super Bowl champion with US a

891
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: former general manager. If Mahomes wins this one, this is

892
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: a different one, Okay, he was expected to win the

893
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: first two.

894
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: This one.

895
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,959
Speaker 2: A lot of people doubted whether or not they would

896
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 2: even be in this game if he wins this one.

897
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 2: Going through the Maar at Baltimore, Josh Allen at Buffalo,

898
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: do we start having the Mahomes Brady conversation?

899
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 7: You know, I think, like Brady, every Super Bowl was

900
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 7: won differently. I know people find it hard to believe,

901
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 7: but Brady's first Super Bowl they ran for one hundred

902
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 7: and forty two yards. They threw for one forty three.

903
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 7: This super Bowl is really different. This Super Bowl run

904
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 7: is different. And when you break it down the last

905
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 7: four games of the Chiefs offense, they've had forty nine drives.

906
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: In those four games, had the forty drives. Excuse me,

907
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 7: they've had eighteen scoring drives. They've had sixteen drives of

908
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 7: over seven plays. They don't make explosive plays. They matriculate

909
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 7: the ball down the field. They've run it one hundred

910
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 7: and twelve times, they've thrown it one hundred and thirty.

911
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 7: They've won with their managing the offense and playing great defense.

912
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 7: And even though everybody said leaving Baltimore, you can't bet

913
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 7: against Patrick Mahomes when he's an underdog, Patrick Mahomes played

914
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 7: well in the game. They won the game because of

915
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 7: their defense. Yeah, they won, and they're winning because of

916
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 7: their defense, and Mahomes has not turned it over. So

917
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 7: I think this is another example of Mahomes being selfless

918
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 7: and burying his ego and helping the team.

919
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: Do you think he wins a third here.

920
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 7: I think it'll be a challenge. I really do, because

921
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 7: the Niners are sitting here and having played their best

922
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 7: part of their team is a defensive line, and they've

923
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 7: played two of the worst games and they're still here.

924
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 7: And they're still here. If that defensive line plays like

925
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 7: it did against Green Bay and Detroit and Detroit, then

926
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 7: Holmes will win his third. But if they put pressure

927
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 7: on them inside and put pressure on them, they can't

928
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 7: spot drop. Look, Mahomes is now throwing the ball. They

929
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 7: take seven plays to score, they'll kick field goals. They're

930
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 7: methodical and what they do. I think it's hard, but

931
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 7: the Niners have enough talent to do it.

932
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: Just to go back to Belichick for a second, because

933
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: you know him, and so what if you factored in everything,

934
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: If I told you every job you can have, any

935
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: job in the NFL, okay to finish off his career,

936
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: and you factor in geography, and you factor in quarterback,

937
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: and you factor in best chance to win. I know

938
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: you said he thinks he can make any job work,

939
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: and I probably agree with you on that. But what

940
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 2: would he choose if he could choose any of the jobs.

941
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 7: Well, I think you know, he's got a special fondness

942
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 7: for the Giants. He's obviously been there before. I think

943
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 7: he and John Mahra have a great relationship. I think

944
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 7: he has great pride in what they've accomplished there. You know,

945
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 7: is that the best situation? I don't know, but you're

946
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 7: talking about. You know, Bill's a big believer in the

947
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 7: history of the game. Part of the reason why I

948
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 7: wrote the book. You know, I've worked for people that

949
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 7: have been obsessed with the history of the game. You know,

950
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 7: when we got ready to play Detroy, Belichick was showing

951
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 7: clips of the Detroit Lions playing entire stadium to the players.

952
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 7: You know, he was educating them on the history of

953
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 7: the Lions. And so I've been around people like that

954
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 7: my whole career. So I think a franchise like the

955
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 7: Atlanta Falcons would be hard for me to see them

956
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 7: be the head coach because they have really no history.

957
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 7: They probably don't deserve a history, you know, because they

958
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 7: really make horrible decisions all the time. But the reality

959
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 7: of it is is those franchises like Washington is a

960
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 7: sacred franchise. We're a better league when Washington's a better team,

961
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 7: we really are.

962
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like the Knicks in the NBA. On

963
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: the way out here, How often do.

964
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: You find yourself having to explain to people that you're

965
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: not related at all to Vince Lombardi?

966
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 7: Pretty much all the time. But I always tell people this.

967
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 7: I said, Look, my last name is Julie Smith. I

968
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 7: just changed it to Lombardi to take advantage of it,

969
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 7: you know, But this this nose kind of gives me

970
00:41:59,200 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 7: away that.

971
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: Do you Is it like preemptive now, like you had

972
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 2: someone your license, You're like, I'm not related to Vance,

973
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: you know.

974
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I think everybody knows by now you know

975
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 7: I'm not related. I think I've been loud enough on

976
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 7: my show and I've been ripped enough on Twitter to

977
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 7: know I'm.

978
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: Not football done right?

979
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: Setting the record straight on the coaches, players and history

980
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: of the NFL. He is Mike Lombardi on the way

981
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 2: out here. Please again tell us about this book. This

982
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 2: is fascinating I like that you at Insider is setting

983
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: the record straight and not afraid to call people out.

984
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: I love it well.

985
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 7: I mean, like Seling Sharp's not in the Hall of Fame.

986
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 7: It's ridiculous. Right, Even Shannon, his brother, says he belongs

987
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame. I have him my top

988
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 7: one hundred players. I think players often get overlooked. I

989
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 7: think coaches get overlooked. Do you realize there's been five

990
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 7: hundred and thirty guys that have called them self head

991
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 7: coaches on the eight of them have won two hundred games,

992
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 7: and Marty Schottenhammer can't get in the Hall of Fame

993
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 7: and he's one of the eight who's won two hundred

994
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 7: games because the people voting don't think it's they think

995
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 7: it's easy to win regular season games. I'll ask our

996
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 7: jetman over here, how hard is it to win regular

997
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 7: season games? It's hard, right, It's hard. You win two

998
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 7: hundred of them and you're one of eight you belong

999
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame. So the books about trying

1000
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 7: to set the record straight on people, but I feel

1001
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 7: like havn't gotten enough respect by what they brought to

1002
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 7: the game. Mark Shaughnessy developing the quarterback position, Marty Schottenheimer

1003
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 7: winning two hundred games, Sterling Sharp a really good player,

1004
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 7: that's kind of my feel of it. And two players

1005
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 7: in the two people in the media that have done

1006
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 7: more for the sport than most people. Howard Cosell Howard Coast.

1007
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 7: We would not have the love of Monday night football

1008
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 7: it wasn't for Howard and the great Brent Musburg.

1009
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: Unbelievable, those two are not in the Hall of Fame. Seriously,

1010
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: Like that's insane to me.

1011
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 7: Right, if you read my book, I mean, I live

1012
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 7: in this little beach town seven miles long, one mile wide.

1013
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 7: We had three bowling alleys. There's only ten ten thousand

1014
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 7: people that live in this island. When I grew up,

1015
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 7: we had three bowling alleys. When I was a kid,

1016
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 7: bowling in the seven nineteen seventy one was the biggest

1017
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 7: thing you did on Monday night. Everybody had a bowling bag.

1018
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 7: Everyone at bowling, even you know, Howard Cunningham on happy days,

1019
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 7: he was going bowling all the time, right, you know,

1020
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 7: And then what happened. Monday night football comes around and

1021
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 7: bowling leagues collapse all over. We don't have a bowling

1022
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 7: alley anymore. On missed out like it just did away

1023
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 7: with it because people stayed home to watch Monday night.

1024
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 7: They stayed home to listen to Cosell. They wanted to

1025
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 7: hear what he said. And some people hated them, and

1026
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 7: they wanted to listen, and some people loved them and

1027
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 7: wanted to listen.

1028
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: Yep, no doubt.

1029
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: If Lombardi takes us to the bowling alley right now,

1030
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: what are you bullying?

1031
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 7: Oh me, I'm married a Polish half Polish half Italian girl.

1032
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 7: She would probably bowl two hundred. I would bowl one hundred. Real,

1033
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 7: I never bowl You kidding me?

1034
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: She mopped the floor with you, Lombardi, kill me?

1035
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 7: Oh she kicked my ass at the embarrassing all.

1036
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: Right, got check out the book. It's available wherever books

1037
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: are sold. Football done right. Setting the record straight on

1038
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 2: the players, on the coaches, the players in the history

1039
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: of the NFL. He is Mike Lombardi, a three time

1040
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion and a friend.

1041
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: Mike. We appreciate it. We will see you next week

1042
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas, my.

1043
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 7: Friend, Thank you, thank you appreciate it.

1044
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, that was really enjoyable.

1045
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: Here's one of the things I was thinking as Mike

1046
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 2: party was on the Zoom with us.

1047
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 7: Billy.

1048
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: That man is sixty four years old. Holy shit, does

1049
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: he look good?

1050
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1051
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you think a sixty four year old Do

1052
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: you guys think this?

1053
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: A sixty four year old Mike Lombardi looks back at

1054
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: a twenty two year old Mike Lombardi and says, I

1055
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: had a great ass.

1056
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: Oh, he should have asked he should have asked him.

1057
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 7: Why didn't we.

1058
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 4: Rob Low's fifty nine?

1059
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 7: What