WEBVTT - Damizza details how he put Snoop & Dre back together

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<v Speaker 1>rating and comment Jill, you know what it is? Another

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<v Speaker 1>episode a gangst the Chronicles. I'm with the homie big

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<v Speaker 1>steal man. Hey, it's been a long time. You just

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<v Speaker 1>came back from from Europe, trouncing all over Europe. Man

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<v Speaker 1>out there killing the shows. I saw everything was sold

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<v Speaker 1>out all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, it's all good. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell people they treat us a little differently overseas, man.

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<v Speaker 4>Seemed like you get a little more respect overseas, and

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<v Speaker 4>and people really appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you come from.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, how long you've been putting in uh work,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to represent whatever form of hip hop you may

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<v Speaker 4>call your shit, you know, just to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>go outside of the States and see that, at least

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<v Speaker 4>what I've been able to do, uh is greatly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 4>When you got sold out shows in different countries and

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<v Speaker 4>people can barely speak English but they know your motherfucking

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<v Speaker 4>song's word for word. That's that's just appreciation, you feel me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's appreciated for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that too when I went over to Japan.

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<v Speaker 1>Over in Japan you get Michael Jackson treatment, England you

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<v Speaker 1>get Michael Jackson treatment. Germany you get Michael Jackson treatment,

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<v Speaker 1>and over here it's kind of just like, oh, what's up, man,

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<v Speaker 1>because everybody over here is a rapper, Everybody over here

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<v Speaker 1>got a podcast, everybody over here actor, everybody got something

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But it's all good though. Ate you a legend, man.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's just different levels of you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's a little difficult you know in some in

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<v Speaker 4>some places, and all just depends on how people received

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<v Speaker 4>you when it comes to over here. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of different artists, a lot of different

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<v Speaker 4>territories and boundaries and ship like that. So a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of that tends to play a part and your acceptance

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<v Speaker 4>from a lot of niggas, you know, which is unfortunate

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<v Speaker 4>because I never gotten the music to try to glorify

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<v Speaker 4>a certain aspect of uh, where I came from or

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<v Speaker 4>what we was banging or whatever. You know, niggas knew

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<v Speaker 4>that because we was doing that before we started rapping. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't like a lot of trendy ship today where

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's cool to gang bang now it's cool

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<v Speaker 4>to no, it's cool to claim the hood and territories

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<v Speaker 4>and ship, you know, I you know today ship I

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<v Speaker 4>could grow up in in in fucking Pittsburgh and say

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<v Speaker 4>I'm from a neighborhood in Campton.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh that's how it works today, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>no disrespect. Because a lot of niggas died and UH

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<v Speaker 4>got locked away for trying to be true to the

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<v Speaker 4>to the the hood life. But uh, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>a it's a give and take, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>especially when you come from the from the streets and

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<v Speaker 4>you are the artists. Uh you Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 4>never got into it to glorify one side. I was

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<v Speaker 4>just making music because niggas was struggling, you feel me.

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<v Speaker 4>That was crip's bloods essays niggas in Texas, New York, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 4>Saint Louis. That's what I made music for because I

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<v Speaker 4>looked at it like shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like this, you know, which is a good

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<v Speaker 1>segue and the introduce him to Night's guests. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>program director from ninety five ninety seven, from nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven on up to two thousand and five. Two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and six, that one of the biggest. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>number one radio station in the country at his time

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<v Speaker 1>under his regime, and I think it was Power one

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<v Speaker 1>oh six was number one and Hot ninety seven was

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<v Speaker 1>number two.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean both were number one in their respective markets,

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<v Speaker 3>but I oversaw Power one o six and then I

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<v Speaker 3>spent a lot of time at Hot ninety seven, and

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<v Speaker 3>then I had thirty two stations in the metal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, you worrying charge of hot ninety seven four

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Tom Yep added.

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<v Speaker 3>Two of the little chem shooting they called me in

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<v Speaker 3>the comments, and you know.

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<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't need an introduction, but this is Damian Young,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's pretty much the one that's responsible for bringing

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<v Speaker 1>Gangster rapped to the rhythmic format because you came right

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<v Speaker 1>in during the time the whole death row thing jumped off,

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<v Speaker 1>whole defferent thing jumped off. And that's why when I

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<v Speaker 1>was asking eight if he had mixed, because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just knew you knew him that we never met before.

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<v Speaker 3>I just knew him all day because I just knew.

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<v Speaker 1>I said at that time, he was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as Gangster rep go, Eight was like, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>God out here, I definitely knew who was the records

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<v Speaker 3>to us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's maybe some of that disrespect you was

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, I said, and I thought about it. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>eight didn't have a lot of records on power.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a lot of records on the radio period,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Not that I didn't see radio as valuable too,

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<v Speaker 4>I just I just I never geared my music towards radio.

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<v Speaker 4>And that goes back to when when I started rapping

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<v Speaker 4>in the garage with the homie making tapes. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I always saw music as a struggle. Everybody did different shit,

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<v Speaker 4>you get me. We had the niggas who would get

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<v Speaker 4>you in the party and shake you up. We had

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<v Speaker 4>the motherfuckers who you know, had the danceable.

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<v Speaker 3>Tunes and all of that. I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I always considered my music, uh, the score for the neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, all those stories and all those ship

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<v Speaker 4>that we saw, I wanted to put a sinister soundtrack

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<v Speaker 4>to that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I never thought about making club friendly songs or uh

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<v Speaker 4>songs that that that's that Epic could go, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>pursue on the radio or whatever. I never thought of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the crazy shit about it was the label

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<v Speaker 4>never asked me to do that type of ship. They

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have touch me for a radio friendly songs.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know how valuable you were to the Epic system?

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<v Speaker 1>Think about this, They was gonna get a gold or

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<v Speaker 1>playing them album all you ever hear it didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to spend no money on radio.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought, honestly, I was probably a write off to

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<v Speaker 4>Epic because I mean, should Epic had Michael Jackson at

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<v Speaker 4>the time, they had Pearl Jam, they had shaw Day,

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<v Speaker 4>you know they I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought about that. You never try to get a record

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<v Speaker 3>with shut out. I mean Epic Records.

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<v Speaker 4>Many they were distributing Death Champan Sony Sony was distributed.

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<v Speaker 3>But like me at Epic, I mean, who could you do?

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<v Speaker 4>Like again, they had at the time when I signed

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<v Speaker 4>to Epic Records, they had Michael Jackson who had just

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<v Speaker 4>came off a thriller.

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<v Speaker 3>They had Pearl.

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<v Speaker 4>Jamm, who was one of the biggest motherfucking rock bands

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<v Speaker 4>at the time, and they had shaw Day. So that's

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<v Speaker 4>cole Ros was a write off. Nigga, shit hit. I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't those significant. I didn't get no I didn't get

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<v Speaker 4>no significant. They Epic didn't know what to do with

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<v Speaker 4>rap music back then. They had no idea what to

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<v Speaker 4>do with it. Because, like I said, when you look

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<v Speaker 4>at those three artists, nigga, they was selling the label,

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<v Speaker 4>you're getting so doubt. It was one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>where they was like, man, we got some money to

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<v Speaker 4>fuck off or throw away everybody doing this rap thing

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<v Speaker 4>right now, so fuck it, let's go grab us up.

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<v Speaker 4>Some artists know every artist that they had up until

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<v Speaker 4>I came along.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't know what the fuck to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you was different ten years right.

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<v Speaker 3>I was at Epic from.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to say, about ninety one ninety two till

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<v Speaker 4>about ninety seven, see that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I came in at ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you came in ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I left Epic right at the like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>at the height of death row and whatever. But I

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<v Speaker 4>left Epic because everybody got fired. They brought in a game,

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<v Speaker 4>the new motherfuckers. I think they had brought in Ron

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<v Speaker 4>Sweeney and a couple of motherfuckers and they didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>what they was doing beforehand. So I just decided to

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<v Speaker 4>say fuck it and did my last record, and I

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<v Speaker 4>was it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, before we before we go into this conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>my men and the music, because we got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, bro, I gotta, you know, we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>dig in the trash can a little bit and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the news and goings on and the musics of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on the internet land right now. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was on my way up here, my phone

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<v Speaker 1>was blowing up. The people was telling me, Man, did

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<v Speaker 1>you see the stuff with Diddy? You know, did you

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<v Speaker 1>see the stuff that's going on with Diddy Man? I said, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Now they don't trug meet Mills all up in this

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<v Speaker 1>mess man and talking about him, Usher and Usher and

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<v Speaker 1>they got a thing to where some dude that's suing

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<v Speaker 1>them from a lessener. Mm hmm if I'm if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, it's just like, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have no idea. What. Yeah, I know you

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<v Speaker 3>don't do it try to. I believe that motherfucker is innocent,

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<v Speaker 3>proven guilty, and and and and I'm with all of

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<v Speaker 3>that ship too.

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<v Speaker 4>But I've learned right now to just stay the fuck

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<v Speaker 4>off my phone when it comes to looking for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because man, when I was in when I was overseas, man,

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<v Speaker 4>it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't do all that over there do that.

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<v Speaker 4>Motherfuckers wasn't on their phone and worried about Instagram and

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<v Speaker 4>and and social media and all that shit, and it

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<v Speaker 4>just you know, I got time to not have to

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<v Speaker 4>fuck with it because everybody knew I was overseas on tour.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's just crazy how every time you can go

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<v Speaker 4>on your phone, it's just some shit. That's that's what

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<v Speaker 4>kind of fucked me up and wore me down because

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<v Speaker 4>it's just like everybody is on some shit man, just

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<v Speaker 4>like and it like no, no bullshit, like everybody is

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<v Speaker 4>on some ship to where I'd be trying to look

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<v Speaker 4>for a little sense of normalcy with motherfuckers, Like it

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<v Speaker 4>is a nigga just gonna be normal today. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>can can a nigga wake up today and not see

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<v Speaker 4>this nigga talk about this nigga or this nigga exposed

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<v Speaker 4>this nigga or this don happen or that that like

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna tell you the say it. That's part about it, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the whole thing with Benzeno, you have people away.

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<v Speaker 3>You see what I'm saying. It's just shit, man, It's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's just a g shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Say was this right? The stuff with Bzino, This grown

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<v Speaker 1>man is on their crime and people think this is

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. I'm like, man, a lot of these dudes

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<v Speaker 1>got mental stuff going on. Man, They need some help.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my boy, my man Benzino shut off to Benzino.

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<v Speaker 1>He a friend of the show. He's been on here before.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you had Benzeno, you had the stuff with Kodak.

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<v Speaker 4>Talked to Benzino not even like maybe a month ago,

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<v Speaker 4>like you know so that I mean, not like whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's just like it's just a gang of shit man,

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't know like the end game is it

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<v Speaker 4>for is it for money? Is it for popularity? Is

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<v Speaker 4>it to is it the bush your status?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I think? Though, bro, me and you,

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<v Speaker 1>now we coming here and we do this show faithfully

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<v Speaker 1>every week. You've always shown up unless it's just like

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<v Speaker 1>an act of God. That's the one way we ain't

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<v Speaker 1>here right right. We just had us some time off

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<v Speaker 1>because we always take time off from the last season.

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<v Speaker 1>This season, people you know, hit me up online when

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<v Speaker 1>the show coming back. It's like, damn, I'm not a machine.

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<v Speaker 1>I need I'm an actual human being. Me and eight

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<v Speaker 1>are human beings. We need a break sometimes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, you know said I was gonna come in

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<v Speaker 4>last week. I was fresh off the plane. Man, I

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<v Speaker 4>was gonna come in. But you know you gotta take

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<v Speaker 4>a little time, yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, cause I was like I was on my death

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<v Speaker 1>bed last week though. I was as sick as a dog.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you look at this and this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to go back to segway into this

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<v Speaker 1>today in today's market, like we were talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of the show. Prior to the show starting, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>has a podcast. Nowadays it's everything. Yeah, everybody was starting

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<v Speaker 1>to wrap around ninety seven. Rapping to me felt like

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that was special. Everybody didn't try to do

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<v Speaker 1>it back in the day. You know, it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>million people rapping. But then once people saw that there

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<v Speaker 1>was some monetary value in becoming a rapper, you had everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody wanted to become a rapper. I ain't gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>an MC because MC is MC. You were m C eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's your name, MC eight. You know you were MC.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a storyteller.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we took pride and creating stories, you know, from

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<v Speaker 4>youth life or or just from what the shit we

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<v Speaker 4>seen as kids, because shit was valued differently when I

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<v Speaker 4>grew up, you know, five six seven years old.

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<v Speaker 3>Times were different. Was it gang banging and shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it niggas selling dope and going to jail and shit? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>But man, man, did these cameras and these phones and

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<v Speaker 4>these social media stages made and have get like like

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<v Speaker 4>you said, like it used to be like nigga. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>I knew I wasn't finna be no basketball player. You

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<v Speaker 4>get me, But now you can't. You can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>You feel me. Now, today you got a thousand motherfuckers

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<v Speaker 4>finna sign their kids up for basketball knowing damn well,

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<v Speaker 4>Nigga shouldn't be playing back.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing it for the wrong reasons. You get me,

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck it.

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<v Speaker 4>All you gotta do is put in the motherfucking laptop,

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of little speakers in the microphone in the

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<v Speaker 4>corner in your kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's a rapper, now, you get me. Fuck it.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna find a beat program on fucking Internet and

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<v Speaker 4>start doing some one two one two beats. Everybody a

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<v Speaker 4>producer now, Like I knew what position to play, I

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<v Speaker 4>knew I could MC, but Nigga ain't finna get up

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<v Speaker 4>there and try to DJ just because we got speakers

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<v Speaker 4>here and I mean turntables and ship and I'm nigga

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<v Speaker 4>fucked that. I'm DJ eight now, Nigga, I couldn't motherfucking

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<v Speaker 4>scratch a record or transform and do none of that

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<v Speaker 4>ship and I'm not gonna fake the funk to do.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna play my position today. Motherfuckers don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I tell you, every time we get on here,

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<v Speaker 4>some people have people today have a problem with being

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<v Speaker 4>just normal, problem with that. I fucked that. I can't

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<v Speaker 4>be nigga. I'm finna be the next this, next that

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<v Speaker 4>or next that. When you could just be your motherfucker itself.

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<v Speaker 1>And this man when he came in, he pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>because you gotta remember, prior to miser remember we was clowning.

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<v Speaker 1>We was paving fun with the lines. I'll talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the then and then then then then everything sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>a planet of rock beat.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything was techno for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Was techno, and this man came in and it started

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little gangster. So we gonna go. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go from the We're gonna go from the beginning is

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<v Speaker 1>but I got a Tolka's part was such a big

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<v Speaker 1>part of your life? Right when did you come in

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<v Speaker 1>and decided it was time to shake shit up?

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<v Speaker 3>Second I walked in the door, what did you see?

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<v Speaker 1>Because La had you know, eight had his own theory

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<v Speaker 1>about La real. He said, man, it was what.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, it was wide open, like I would

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<v Speaker 3>you know. I was always somebody who just loved music.

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<v Speaker 3>So I loved rap music, so I loved Doctor Dre

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<v Speaker 3>the chronic. I loved uh you know, Snoop Dog. I

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<v Speaker 3>loved all the easye I loved I drive up and

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<v Speaker 3>listen to Julio G and kDa, you know, and Tony

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<v Speaker 3>G and the Mixed Masters and you know, all battle

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<v Speaker 3>Cat and all of those guys. And you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I got there, that was my goal was to emulate kDa,

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<v Speaker 3>but bring it back on that level and make hip

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<v Speaker 3>hop the number one format in the world. Because they

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<v Speaker 3>just said we couldn't do that. So I was just like,

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<v Speaker 3>fuck you, of course we could, you know, because if

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<v Speaker 3>you go anywhere anywhere where, you'd hear rap in the streets.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for instance, you know, when I first played Ain't

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<v Speaker 3>No Fun in Morning Drive, people had a coronary, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. Management freaked out, So I literally

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<v Speaker 3>had to put it in our research to show them

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<v Speaker 3>that it would test more than our current records.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was a like record to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they subject matter, you know, Ain't no Fun

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<v Speaker 1>if the homies can't have nothing, Yeah, but that was

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<v Speaker 1>a fun record. That's not like a record that should

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<v Speaker 1>have been on the regular to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, but the thing was is it was it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>really sensorable, you know what I mean. Like even when

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<v Speaker 3>you muted the stuff, you knew what they was saying. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So, I mean I had

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<v Speaker 3>some barriers to overcome, but I proved them each time.

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<v Speaker 3>And like, for instance, I put Dray and Snoop together

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<v Speaker 3>for two thousand and one. It wasn't for two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and one. It was because I wanted to see the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So we did it in Hawaii and did a whole

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<v Speaker 3>contest around it so that literally I could see the show.

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<v Speaker 1>This is dope, man, you know. So you just pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much got the have your own party like so you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do this, so you just like you power.

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<v Speaker 3>Was my personality. Sorry, it's all good.

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<v Speaker 1>So you just like like you programming your own playlist

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<v Speaker 1>on the iPhone right now. You said, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see this and this, let's put this together.

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<v Speaker 3>If you let the ultimate rap fan into a building

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<v Speaker 3>and said you have a transmitter, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it was. So so tell me. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you first came in, you said you started right off

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<v Speaker 1>the rip, like we go shake some stuff up. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had this monster of a record label

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<v Speaker 1>which was deaf ro. Did you hear about the ass

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<v Speaker 1>whoopers and everything that was going on? Hell?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was friends with Johnny J. Johnny J was

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<v Speaker 3>my first mentor in production. Yeah, resk in peace Johnny J. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>rec Johnny J. And Ronnie King. Shout out to Ronnie King,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, those were like the first people that

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<v Speaker 3>I met when I came to LA. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it was right as you know all that was going on,

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<v Speaker 3>and Johnny actually gave me unconditional love by Tupac and

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<v Speaker 3>it was exclusive content for us, but it made death

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<v Speaker 3>throw a little mad. Yeah, yeah, so they I ended

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<v Speaker 3>up getting notes on my car and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But I ended up meeting Sugar and I just found

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<v Speaker 3>out if you treat people with respect or get respect.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, your first interaction with Shug, how was that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure you the radio dudes, so I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure he was freaking you nice. And just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>Shug wasn't out here whooping on everybody. Now like some

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff was kind of blew up. He was

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<v Speaker 1>whooping some asss, but everybody wouldn't get in the ass

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<v Speaker 1>whooped them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he he had just gotten out of jail, and

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<v Speaker 3>the Anaheim Police Department came to me. We had a

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<v Speaker 3>powerhouse and they came to me and they said, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna shut your powerhouse down. We hear Sugar Knights coming.

0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Because I had Snoop, I had Corrupt, I had Nate,

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<v Speaker 3>I had you know what I mean, I had everybody

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<v Speaker 3>that used to be on his label. So they said,

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<v Speaker 3>you know we're gonna shut it down. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why isn't somebody just call him and invite him. Then

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<v Speaker 3>we'll know where he's at. And they said, great, go ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like me and so I ended up

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<v Speaker 3>calling death Row. And the first time I called, I

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.280
<v Speaker 3>remember Cedric who picked up the phone hung up on me,

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't believe it was me from power calling for Shug.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I called back again and he's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>people just don't call her here for Sugar a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. And he's like, he's at home.

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<v Speaker 3>So Sug got on the phone and I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I hear you're coming to powerhouse and he said what's powerhouse?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, come on, man, no fuck with me, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was just like, okay, you know you're funny. D

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<v Speaker 3>I was like yeah, so come be my guest, come

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<v Speaker 3>to my suite and all this kind of stuff. He's like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>no one's ever really invited me to something.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. Sometimes that's all it take, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you something.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was cool as shit. He partied in the

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<v Speaker 3>thing and had a blast. And I'll tell you the

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<v Speaker 3>funny thing, though, is the next morning I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 3>that he had all those Compton police officers with him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, like during that era. So

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<v Speaker 3>the next morning, Sunday morning, was a knock at my

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<v Speaker 3>door and I walked downstairs. I opened the door and

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<v Speaker 3>there's a basket there with a bottle of champagne and

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<v Speaker 3>all this kind of shit, and it said my with compliments,

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<v Speaker 3>sug night. I never give that motherfucking my address, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean exactly, But he obviously, see what should you never know?

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<v Speaker 1>It could be too fold. Yeah, he was just showing

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>you he appreciated you. But in the same tone, he'd

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<v Speaker 1>let you know I could find your ass his need

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<v Speaker 1>be so you better keep this nice guy and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But but he always was, you know what, He never

0:23:20.119 --> 0:23:22.680
<v Speaker 3>gave me an excuse. I was always honest with him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, if there was a record

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<v Speaker 3>he wanted to play that, he'd say, come up. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>One time I remember he wanted to come up and

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<v Speaker 3>play the Crooked Eye single and uh and I said, well,

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<v Speaker 3>if I tell the mixes that you're coming, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to show up. So we surprised the mixers and

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<v Speaker 3>when he walked in, they all hit the back wall, like,

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<v Speaker 3>they all got up, and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to kill you. Like see, that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like you know yea.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jimmy Steele, the program director by the way, when

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<v Speaker 3>he was smoking his cigard and there, I said, sure,

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 3>you can't smoke in here, and he put you put

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<v Speaker 3>the thing out. He's like, I'm sorry, mis and my

0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:02.919
<v Speaker 3>program director literally shit himself, Like I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, dude, what are you into? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing though, man, And this is what I'm

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:13.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna say about that. You can't you can't do your business,

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.400
<v Speaker 1>make black culture your business, but be scared to deal

0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:16.960
<v Speaker 1>with the people.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's because you know the image that you know

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 4>that was put off by past you know, past situations

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<v Speaker 4>or you know.

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<v Speaker 3>What you hear a word of mouth that scared some motherfuckers.

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.040
<v Speaker 4>You know, you hear a motherfucker and hung a nigga

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<v Speaker 4>off a balcony, or you hear a motherfucker and had

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<v Speaker 4>motherfucker's asses whooped in a private room in the red room,

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<v Speaker 4>or niggas hear stories so and especially at the executive level,

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 4>that's scared of shit out of motherfuckers. When niggas got

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<v Speaker 4>to the point to where they start walking in labels

0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:06.200
<v Speaker 4>and offices with baseball bats and ready to beat motherfucker's

0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 4>ass over records and songs played, that changed a lot

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:11.800
<v Speaker 4>of error for motherfuckers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know what the thing is though, Miser

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:17.960
<v Speaker 1>made it cool for everybody to come to the station, though,

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:22.440
<v Speaker 1>because you just didn't extend that treatment to Shug. Yeah,

0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee you eight, because you was on priority around

0:25:24.920 --> 0:25:28.879
<v Speaker 1>that time, ninety seven, right ninety eight, ninety eight, I

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 1>guarantee you. If somebody could have connected y'all too, just

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>took the time, just did their job and just say, hey,

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>eight is coming out with a record. Because that album,

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 1>you had some joints that could have played on Power.

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:45.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we kind of switched it up a little bit

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:49.359
<v Speaker 4>when I got the Priority through Mac ten through Who Banging?

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 3>So was that the Mark Benisher? I think Mark was.

0:25:55.119 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 4>There's a few dudes there. It was a few dudes

0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 4>there at probably already at the time when Mac t

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<v Speaker 4>and that Who Banging?

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Master P was the same thing. I mean, he had

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<v Speaker 3>that or whatever of you know, don't fuck with him,

0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Like, but you know, the

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 3>thing was is like what because Mark Benniss was a

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 3>was a big influence on me, and he taught me

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 3>just kind of how to deal with people, you know

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.280
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, It's like you're gonna experience this. And

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 3>he actually put me in a room with P and

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 3>Boz to see if they could intimidate me and kind

0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 3>of thing, you know what I mean. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like it is what it is.

0:26:31.880 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>That's the one thing I could say about you was this.

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>You definitely was fucking with everybody. That's why when they

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 1>told me he had mixed, I was like shop that.

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Let me know. The Priority just dropped the ball like

0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker, you know what I mean.

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And then like I said, I was I've never

0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:49.520
<v Speaker 3>been a.

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<v Speaker 4>Nigga who quest for you know that type of shit,

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 4>you know, And there's people out there, you know, like

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:02.399
<v Speaker 4>or we need to get with the we need to

0:27:02.400 --> 0:27:04.600
<v Speaker 4>get with the program director, and we need to do this,

0:27:04.720 --> 0:27:07.240
<v Speaker 4>and when you know, managers and all that shit. I

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 4>never had that be getting.

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>You can see that ain't necessarily your job.

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.119
<v Speaker 3>But on who banging, I mean, i had such a

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 3>great relationship with mac Tenna.

0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm just surprised that, yeah, because I didn't. Again I was.

0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:27.879
<v Speaker 4>I've always been sort of lone wolf type of motherfucking artists.

0:27:29.520 --> 0:27:32.600
<v Speaker 4>When when the work is done at the studio, nigga,

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm out of here and I'm going on the other

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 4>side of the motherfucking planet, and you probably ain't gonna

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:42.640
<v Speaker 4>see me until it's time to do something. I wasn't

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 4>a nigga who just hung out like a lot of people,

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, were active in the community. We're gonna go

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 4>to concerts, We're gonna go. I never did that ship. Yeah,

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.920
<v Speaker 4>I would never see eight around. I never was around.

0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.320
<v Speaker 3>That's why we never met. You know, he wouldn't going

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 3>to hang out type of guy. I just do the clubs.

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I didn't do the radio station functions, the powers and

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 4>the big cons.

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 3>I didn't do that shit.

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, I told you. When we first came in and

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 1>men was sitting here talking and we was talking about you,

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>and I said, Man, to be honest with you, I

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>love doing the show with eight because Eight is really

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>no nonsense, Like you always gonna know what it deals

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>with him, but it ain't no ulterior motives, it ain't

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:25.320
<v Speaker 1>no bullshit. He gonna tell you what he thinks on

0:28:25.359 --> 0:28:28.120
<v Speaker 1>his mind and that's it. And I told him, I said, well, man,

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the first year we did the show, I said, man,

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.119
<v Speaker 1>I might talk to Eight five minutes outside the show

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 1>every week, and I was kind of worried. I ain't

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:37.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna lie. I can say it now. I was like, man,

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>this dude don't talk. I said, how are we gonna

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 1>do this show together? Especially when all the other stuff

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>started coming up. And then once he got the he

0:28:45.320 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>a dude, that trust is earned with him. You have

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>to earn your way in with him. He's not gonna

0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>give you the Hollywood political phony shit. He just gonna

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:55.120
<v Speaker 1>give it to you raw and none cut.

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's enough niggas for that. It's enough niggas to

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 4>play that position.

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't.

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna play that position. So you just have

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 4>to know what it is.

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Man.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm a simple motherfucker. But like you said, I don't

0:29:11.160 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 4>like the bullshit around because there's a lot of When

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 4>you've been in this radio music shit, man, you.

0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 3>See a lot of fucking bullshit.

0:29:19.560 --> 0:29:22.240
<v Speaker 4>Ye, And you see a lot of motherfuckers that you

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 4>think are one way.

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Motherfuckers really ain't authentic. Man.

0:29:27.000 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, some niggas is cutthroat, some niggas don't give

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 4>a fuck about shit, and so that make you really

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, you gotta stand with your back against the

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 4>wall and just watch motherfuckers coming and feel.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 1>With him saying that niss you was in a real

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>pivotal time. Man, it was dangerous. It's still dangerous on

0:29:45.920 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast, but it was dangerous as the motherfucker

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>bet Yeah, especially if you had something that somebody wanted

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:57.040
<v Speaker 1>and as soon as somebody see you, they just see Man,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 1>this dude can change my life. He could play my record.

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Knowing how the industry work, he can play my records

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>one hundred times a day if he wants to. And

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 1>every you guys have a playlist, correct, there's a playlist,

0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 1>and is that playlist is based on research that they

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 1>actually do call out and see what people are fucking with.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>So they got to play with that because the average

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 1>person that listen to radio, and this is some game

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 1>out there for y'all rappers that think that radio is

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>hating on you, August I had to go get educated

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>on it. It's based on what call out says. Correct.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.080
<v Speaker 1>If it ain't nobody, there's no demand for your record,

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>ain't no demand for it.

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.040
<v Speaker 3>And the average.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker that listening to radio only listen to it for

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes at a time, Am I correct? Is the

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes y? They only listen to it for fifteen

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>minutes at a time. So what they're trying to do

0:30:46.400 --> 0:30:48.760
<v Speaker 1>when people wonder why they're hearing the same damn record

0:30:48.840 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 1>all the time, is because that record shows test good

0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>and call out and they trying to catch it. So

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 1>when eight getting his car driving back to BFE, they

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 1>can hear the records that hit, records that they like

0:31:00.640 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and make their trip listen. Yeah WL correct.

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. In fifteen minutes, you want to have like the

0:31:05.800 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 3>hottest record in the world, the one classic that makes

0:31:09.600 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 3>you go oh wow, and one that's like either coming

0:31:12.840 --> 0:31:14.959
<v Speaker 3>down or coming up kind of thing. So I mean

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>you want to keep people's attention as long as possible.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>You're fighting for quarter hours is really what it is

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:22.600
<v Speaker 3>the fifteen minutes, and the more fifteen minutes you get,

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 3>the higher the ratings go. So every fifteen minutes a

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:27.960
<v Speaker 3>million people would tune in. But how did you how

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 3>long did they stay? And my thing was, yeah, the

0:31:31.240 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 3>records were one thing, but we were. What I was

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 3>trying to get was the passion records. You know, all

0:31:37.880 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 3>about you, you know, ain't no fun all the records

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 3>that were never on the radio before. That would make

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 3>people go, oh shit, that's on the radio. You know

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 3>what I mean? Because I was just a fan of it.

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 3>So that's what I wanted to hear on the radio,

0:31:51.000 --> 0:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>the shit that I never heard on the radio before.

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>And that's dope and it actually worked. Now did you

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>ever have those moments? Is like say, it was a

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 1>real dangerous ear? Fuck?

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes? Did you?

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Some NIX you can talk about what's the most tripped

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 1>where artists really just just trip you up? What artists

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>aren't anybody manager whoever?

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've had you know, people pull out guns,

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.680
<v Speaker 3>I've had people offer money. I've had rappers that I

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 3>did favors for it, and they didn't understand why I

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:25.040
<v Speaker 3>did it, or offered me guns, bring me backpacks and

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 3>hear them clank, and it's like, you know, I was like,

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 3>that's not what I'm doing this for. If it was

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 3>right for my radio station, I fucking did it. So

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, how long did I spend with you still?

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:37.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean explaining everything?

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Man, he broke it down. I mean, you know, I

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>was ourtist. I was young at one time. Everybody you know,

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm artist, and so I'm like everybody else.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of ignorant at that time, because you know

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 1>how you in that young mode, you think everybody hate

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you know you're right. So I came up there with

0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the intention of not liking this motherfucker. You stopped me

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>from getting what I need. Once he broke it down

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, I was glad he did it because it

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.320
<v Speaker 1>changed the whole way I made music, and it changed

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 1>my whole direction kind of. And I felt like a

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 1>dumb ass.

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, and it only took a couple of those type

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 3>of meetings before everybody kind of got it. You know

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. The dude's not an asshole. He'll either

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 3>play your record if it's right for the radio station,

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 3>or he'll tell you why he can't. Eventually got a

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 3>record that was playing. I got.

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of records that was played.

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I got a good story for you.

0:33:22.680 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 1>The tribe in Hawaii, Okay, what.

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Happened with so I should send the Buya tribe to

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Hawaii to uh disrupt the uh the reunion with Drey

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>and Snoop, and Snoop came out and he's like, the

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Buja tribes downstairs. You know we're gonna go down in this.

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 3>I said, hold on, I'll take care of it. All

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 3>the white bore. You're gonna handle this. I said, don't

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 3>worry about it. I got it. So I went down

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:46.480
<v Speaker 3>there and first thing I said was back up before

0:33:46.520 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>I knock you out. And they all looked at me, like,

0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 3>that's this muff right, And I said, look, I've known

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 3>you guys since back in EYC and when you guys

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 3>were making YC records on MCA, and if you guys

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 3>ever want to get your records, there's a way to

0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 3>do it. You guys are gonna come in and join

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.680
<v Speaker 3>the party, or you're gonna fuck up the party. Which

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 3>way you want to do it? And Godfather rest Is.

0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 3>So they just sat there and we talked and the

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 3>next thing, you know, I mean to this day, I

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 3>talked to Goddy all the time, Giant all the time,

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Cobra every once in a while, you know. I mean,

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>I love those.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Guys and the boot Yo. That could have went bad,

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it's real bad.

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 3>But you know, at the time, I really, you know,

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 3>I was in. I just didn't give a fuck. I

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>was the happiest night of my life. I got the

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 3>concert done, you know, this kind of stuff. I was

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>gonna let.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Somebody, you know, so you knew though, you knew in

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.120
<v Speaker 1>the history that should hand with him, because when Drey

0:34:39.200 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 1>left Death Rope, there was some you know, oh yeah,

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>it was some shit behind it.

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't no easy shit, you know well, And he

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 3>dropped the Aftermath album and then he dropped the Firm album.

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 3>So when I went on the air with the promotion,

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I got a call from Jimmy Iaven saying, what are

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.840
<v Speaker 3>you doing? Why do I have a two hundred and

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 3>fifty thousand dollars bill on my desk for a producer

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.600
<v Speaker 3>who does and produce out Who's label? I'm just about

0:35:02.600 --> 0:35:05.240
<v Speaker 3>to try to sell like he was ready to sell

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.960
<v Speaker 3>the label and take it into receivership or something. I mean,

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 3>he was, He's like Anna rapper I haven't seen since

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Death Row, you know what I mean, Like, what are

0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 3>you doing? You're responsible for this? If this shit doesn't work,

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.839
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, fuck it, let's party. You're gonna get

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 3>a record.

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:24.800
<v Speaker 1>And so you you was responsible for putting me in

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and go do their record. Well.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 3>I put them together for the show, and then when

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 3>they licked, when they clicked up, then the conversation started.

0:35:34.760 --> 0:35:38.280
<v Speaker 3>You know. DJ Jam was really a big instrumental person

0:35:38.360 --> 0:35:40.919
<v Speaker 3>in that as well. Like we I invited them both

0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:46.040
<v Speaker 3>to Powerhouse first and Snoop was performing, and I somehow

0:35:46.120 --> 0:35:48.919
<v Speaker 3>talked Dre into coming and I handed him a mic

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.759
<v Speaker 3>and I had Jam ready and I you know, when

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>he when he first showed up, I switched the names

0:35:56.040 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 3>on the door so that he'd walk into snoops dressing

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>room think it was his. Yeah, and they bumped in.

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.520
<v Speaker 1>Started that they wound up bumping each other man, And

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I know that you changed the whole dynamic of how

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast was getting down. I'm talking about not

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:17.200
<v Speaker 1>just not just in LA radio, but what they was

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.400
<v Speaker 1>doing up in the Bay because power was so big

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>at that time. And I remember going to one of

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the That was the one good thing about that era, right,

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.440
<v Speaker 1>just the concerts they used to have, right, And I

0:36:29.480 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>remember I got to go up there, man, because I

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.239
<v Speaker 1>was running with Igh seeing them at the time. And

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember gott to go up there, man, and seeing

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.479
<v Speaker 1>Nate dogg just turn the whole summer jam out just new.

0:36:39.440 --> 0:36:40.280
<v Speaker 3>Or nothing but hooks.

0:36:41.400 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>It was the craziest it was. It was the craziest

0:36:45.560 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>shit ever. So what do you think the hardest aspect

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 1>of that job was, man, as far as you dealing

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>with so many personalities in LA. Was the gang shit

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.960
<v Speaker 1>a big because you because you was pushing gangs the rep.

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah it was. I mean, you know, you can't

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 3>deal and to wrap without dealing with gangs. And there

0:37:02.000 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 3>was some pressure and things like that at times. But

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, everybody, you know, if you're just cool, just

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 3>explain it out people. You know, when you said like,

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 3>there ain't no normal motherfuckers around, right, like, we was

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 3>just normal motherfuckers. So if you came up and you

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 3>kicked it, you realize that we're just real. It's just

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.399
<v Speaker 3>now radio has got this funny shit, you know, and

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 3>just people in general. After the COVID and the zoom

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 3>shit and all this kind of shit, nobody fucks with anybody,

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.719
<v Speaker 3>so they don't communicate and the shit gets fucked up.

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.399
<v Speaker 3>You know what you were saying earlier about Another thing

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 3>that I'd like to just say is the storytelling and

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 3>the songwriting fucking sucks these days, you know what I mean. Like,

0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:46.600
<v Speaker 3>it's like I would listen to some of the stuff,

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:49.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well, what the fuck would I play? You

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:51.920
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean? Because it's like, you got verses

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that don't have nothing to do with the hooks. You

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>have hooks that have nothing to do with the verses.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 3>You have two verses on some songs one verse. I

0:37:59.360 --> 0:37:59.680
<v Speaker 3>mean it.

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what that is to me? Man?

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that bad mentorship?

0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Bad mentorship? And nobody is actually being produced today. Yeah,

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.839
<v Speaker 1>Because what happened is you get a dude to buy

0:38:09.880 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a beat online and that beat may already have a

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.640
<v Speaker 1>hook on it. They just think the hook soundfly. They

0:38:16.719 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna try to write around a hook or nothing

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:20.919
<v Speaker 1>like that. They just go throw a verse. They gonna

0:38:20.920 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 1>email it and get they homie on there. They gonna

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.239
<v Speaker 1>bug the shout of eight. See if they can get

0:38:24.280 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a verse from him on there. And it's just like

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:28.720
<v Speaker 1>there's no continuity to the records anymore.

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I asked the new artists. And this will blow you away.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.000
<v Speaker 3>I asked the new artists the other day, has anyone

0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:36.760
<v Speaker 3>ever vocal produced you? And he said, what's vocal production?

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:40.319
<v Speaker 3>M you know what I mean?

0:38:40.440 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Like it don't sound you know what it is? Man?

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Today it's like this. See hey, you know how you

0:38:49.840 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>talk about nobody want to be the normal motherfucker. And

0:38:53.239 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>this is the biggest thing I saw, man, Cause you know,

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I went after I stopped, you know, doing music, which

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I never really did. I went, I gotta putublishing deal

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and so I was working as a A and R. They

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 1>wound up behind me as A and R for the

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 1>publishing company. And the biggest thing I learned is that

0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>people want to be famous. Right. I would meet a

0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of groups because you know, when you could give deals,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:15.560
<v Speaker 1>it's a difference. It's a headache. Man. I would get

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 1>people coming to the office, right. And when I first

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.319
<v Speaker 1>got the job, I would really entertain all that, you

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. I thought, it's my job, right,

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So I'm listening to everybody. I would meet somebody in

0:39:25.600 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>the manager, I'd be thinking, Damn, the manager should be

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>the rapper. He just got more of that, you know

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, the swagger you meet the rapper. The

0:39:33.760 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>rappers sometimes sometimes horrible. Sometimes they got some good shit,

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>they got some bad shit. So what I started doing

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>is I started really telling motherfucker's the truth.

0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:42.359
<v Speaker 3>Dog.

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:45.399
<v Speaker 1>It don't make you popular, but I wouldn't go waste

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 1>no more of my time. I'd tell him, man, this

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>ain't it, this ain't it. And it would be times

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>to where I did get some I would be mining

0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:55.959
<v Speaker 1>for gold and find some stuff. That's how I found

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a kid from Dallas to did ice cream paint job,

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, And that wound up he and my first

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>platinum record, you know, because it was like I had

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 1>a dude that sends demos into some beats, right, and

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 1>he had this one kick. I forget that, I forget

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that Doro. He was making some records with this kid

0:40:13.080 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>named Doro in his apartment down in Dallas, and so

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I flew him out of here, and

0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>we wound up being able to do a deal, and

0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it wound up blowing up becoming one of the biggest

0:40:21.239 --> 0:40:24.279
<v Speaker 1>songs in the country, wound up becoming one of the

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:29.880
<v Speaker 1>biggest things in the country. But I think there's definitely nowadays, Man.

0:40:29.880 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 3>It's some selfish motherfuckers. Now, I'm just saying that. I mean,

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 3>people just don't give people shots like that.

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:37.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, I didn't know no better back

0:40:37.520 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>then that shit giving people's shots eventually want to have cast.

0:40:40.280 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Me My damn job, I did that ship all day.

0:40:44.840 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>You feel what I'm saying?

0:40:45.760 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 4>So music, I know you hold yeah that, but the

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 4>times was different, you get me. Uh, giving a giving

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 4>a motherfucker's shot back in on time was a motherfucker

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 4>who was really you know, going to a studio and

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:06.440
<v Speaker 4>getting and getting molded and crafted and being able to

0:41:06.600 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 4>follow niggas like eight or Snoop or Dre or or

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.200
<v Speaker 4>the forefathers before him.

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:16.120
<v Speaker 3>You said the keyword craft.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, today motherfuckers are just trendy. They want to

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 4>do whatever is trendy or whatever think whatever they feel

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 4>is gonna get them a lot of clicks or a

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:32.799
<v Speaker 4>lot of streams. And you know, I can't go buy

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.400
<v Speaker 4>me a hundred thousand dollars chain, and you know a

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 4>lot of niggas. You know, the subject matters became one sided.

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:42.760
<v Speaker 3>Nigga.

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about hustling some money, popping some pills, and

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 4>fucking some bitches. And the younger generation got a hold

0:41:51.880 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 4>of that and it was like, Oh, we're finna run

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:59.480
<v Speaker 4>with this shit. Fuck it good nigga money, my bentley,

0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 4>my nigga, we pour or whatever we drinking, and your

0:42:06.160 --> 0:42:09.760
<v Speaker 4>bitch or your nigga, you get me. That's what rap became.

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.640
<v Speaker 4>Like you said, there was no there's no substance.

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:14.279
<v Speaker 3>You get me.

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Motherfuckers might hate on a run DMC or or a

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 4>slick rick and shit, but you get songs. And that's

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 4>the difference today. I said, motherfuckers don't Yeah, you can rap, motherfucker,

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 4>but can you make a song?

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, the biggest thing you said, though, eight,

0:42:31.600 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>is that you stayed in your own lane. That was

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I respected about certain I got,

0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 1>like a I got a certain group of artists that

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I hold up there like it's the kind of like

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:47.560
<v Speaker 1>the Pantheon. It's scarface, Yeah, it's MC eight, it's cool

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.440
<v Speaker 1>g rap and it's kind of like a toss up

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>between the mother two. I got like probably like two

0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>or three more? Is the dude from the roots? What's

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>my boy? Thought? Like, No, from the roots. I got

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.439
<v Speaker 1>crooked eye up there, you know, to esteem to certain

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>people that I don't want to hear commercial stuff from.

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want to hear them do what they do.

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:07.319
<v Speaker 3>You feel what I mean?

0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that in this era it seems like

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>guys like they can kind of flourish. Do you think

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>it's actually a need for radio nowadays?

0:43:17.960 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I think radio is all fucked up. I think it

0:43:21.120 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 3>hasn't evolved, you know what I mean? Like so, I mean,

0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 3>as it stands right now, it's the only media that

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 3>has not made the jump to the phone. There's no

0:43:31.200 --> 0:43:35.279
<v Speaker 3>app it's not you know, iHeart needs to be completely

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the redundant costs in iHeart is what's killing iHeart.

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean they spend what eight billion to make to

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, some weird stuff like that. I mean, there's

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 3>there's ways to evolve it and it just hasn't been

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:48.880
<v Speaker 3>done yet.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you give me an eight just fucked off. Sorry, no,

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:54.400
<v Speaker 1>it's all good man, But that's what we do.

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:54.799
<v Speaker 3>We talk.

0:43:54.880 --> 0:43:58.520
<v Speaker 1>We don't do no sensorship. Sorry, no, tell the true

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 1>We don't sensor nothing, man, because but I just I've.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Always thought differently, you know what I mean. So I'm

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 3>not saying it's right or wrong, but you know, I mean,

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:11.520
<v Speaker 3>I made gangster rap the pop, do you know what

0:44:11.600 --> 0:44:14.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean? I know what works and what doesn't.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Because because being from LA, right, me and Glass has

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 1>had this conversation all the time, Glasses, you know, on

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:22.919
<v Speaker 1>the West Coast, gang banging is a part of the coach.

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 3>It's just what it is, you know.

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I first came out here, I found

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>out I had certain friends who's like uncles, mama, everybody

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:35.839
<v Speaker 1>from the same neighborhood. They were always from the same

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you know. They It's like a family tradition almost right.

0:44:39.120 --> 0:44:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And you would never know as you look at this

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>dude's mom like nights older lady, and she used to

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 1>be you know, she from the hood though, from the neighborhood.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:51.759
<v Speaker 1>And Glasses told me one day, it's almost impossible for

0:44:51.920 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>someone from LA to make it as a rapper that

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>don't belong to somewhere, And he said, that's why you

0:44:56.719 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 1>see so many people that that's not necessarily orientated, but

0:45:02.120 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>they've lagged one as somebody or somebody don't lag stone

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>them and now they kind of claiming that, but it's

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>almost on some almost on some acting shit.

0:45:11.120 --> 0:45:21.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, rap is a street based artist expression, thang. I

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:24.920
<v Speaker 3>mean it's it's it comes from that. So if it's

0:45:25.520 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 3>not organic from that and people don't co sign it

0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:32.439
<v Speaker 3>and say what he's saying is real and accurate, then

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:37.520
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't grow. And that's what where radio is fucked

0:45:37.600 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 3>up right now is all these programmers and everybody, they

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:43.640
<v Speaker 3>don't have any connection to the street. They don't have

0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 3>little homies, they don't have all of these things around

0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 3>them to where where they can hear what's coming up.

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're just figuring out right now, there's a

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 3>lefty gun play. Well eight months ago BAMS was listening

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:56.439
<v Speaker 3>to the Lefty gun Play and I could have told

0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 3>you that shit was a hit.

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Even what they're doing with the Chicano Brothers now right,

0:46:02.080 --> 0:46:05.600
<v Speaker 1>with the Mexican on it. Right, they want to have

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.720
<v Speaker 1>a representation up there, but it's none of it is authentic.

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Everything is so plastic and phony to where they almost

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:14.520
<v Speaker 1>go get the Sacarin version of this. I'm gonna go

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>get the Sacraine version of that, and I think it's

0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>a travesty dog outside a Big Boy, there are no

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 1>other black people in radio.

0:46:25.480 --> 0:46:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Now, ned Lae. Unless I'm missing something, well, I mean

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 3>that hadn't I questioned that a lot too, to be.

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:39.160
<v Speaker 4>A place where the and like I said, not to

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:43.080
<v Speaker 4>be discriminating against the Essays or the Asians or whoever

0:46:43.280 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 4>participates in this thing we call hip hop. But it

0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:53.120
<v Speaker 4>was a foundational it was it was a black foundation

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.120
<v Speaker 4>for hip hop when it started here.

0:46:57.760 --> 0:46:58.360
<v Speaker 3>With KD.

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 4>Greg Like you said, Uncle Jam's Army. Uh, that was

0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 4>the foundation of West Coat music. And it's it's crazy

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:15.359
<v Speaker 4>that out of all these decades of great black hip

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:19.239
<v Speaker 4>hop artists that we don't have but big Boy on

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:23.200
<v Speaker 4>the radio representing, especially for a place like Kday.

0:47:23.360 --> 0:47:27.239
<v Speaker 1>And you know what's funny about it, big Boy, big

0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Boy is the face, right, he's the face. He don't

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:33.480
<v Speaker 1>really break no records, as crazy as that sound of

0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:34.319
<v Speaker 1>my correct.

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, but the head of the iHeart out here is

0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.560
<v Speaker 3>doc and Docor is black.

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I know that, but a lot of people don't

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>know that. What I'm told about, it's people that you

0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>can actually see.

0:47:46.320 --> 0:47:48.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, people, I don't know if you when the

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.560
<v Speaker 3>artists have access to doctor now.

0:47:50.640 --> 0:47:52.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, people that you can actually see, you know,

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the average person out here that ain't in the business.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know who the fuck doctor is. Shut

0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>out to doc, you know what I mean exactly, but

0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>they probably don't know who he is what I'm talking about, man.

0:48:01.360 --> 0:48:03.080
<v Speaker 1>And even for the because I can't speak for the

0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Mexican people, right, but even for them, there's so many

0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.799
<v Speaker 1>dope ass Mexican artists that don't get played because they're

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.960
<v Speaker 1>giving them a saccharin version of it. I even think

0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:13.600
<v Speaker 1>that the ship that kool Aid had back in the

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:16.279
<v Speaker 1>day was dope. The vocals pited local ship. That ship

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 1>was dope because it was authentic, it was real, right,

0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>And to be real with you, I don't even know

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>why we got.

0:48:22.600 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 3>To have classifications and ship like that just put music

0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:26.319
<v Speaker 3>out there. I think.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I think once you start getting once you start classifying

0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:31.919
<v Speaker 1>ship as something, that's when you open up the room

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 1>for bullshit. How come? Because I'm pretty sure because I

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of essay partner rappers like you do too,

0:48:38.280 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>eight right, I guarantee you if you hit mister kriminald

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Lefty gun Play that they want to be identified as

0:48:45.160 --> 0:48:45.720
<v Speaker 1>just a rapper.

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 3>Let me just be a rapper. Why they gotta be

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 3>a Mexican rapper and get you can't get me started

0:48:50.280 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 3>on a whole man, let's get stuff when I got

0:48:52.080 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 3>you set sunk? Am I being honest, my man?

0:48:56.719 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 4>But I think that I don't like I said, I

0:49:00.440 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 4>they you know, sometimes they want to be identified as

0:49:06.960 --> 0:49:10.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, like I don't know if just just saying

0:49:10.680 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm a rapper, because just saying I'm a rapper like

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:17.960
<v Speaker 4>that puts you in the category of all the other

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:22.640
<v Speaker 4>sorry motherfuckers who ain't rapping good. That to me puts

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 4>you in a you know, like we representing or you get.

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Me, and that's dope.

0:49:27.440 --> 0:49:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Ain't nothing wrong with See, I'm not talking about the

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 1>cultural representation, right, I'm talking about just the whole thing. Right,

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:35.920
<v Speaker 1>we just only go play y'all in this time slot

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:38.760
<v Speaker 1>or doing this thing. I think it's dope. I remember

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.960
<v Speaker 1>when Little Rob came with Summer Nights. Look, that was

0:49:41.960 --> 0:49:44.640
<v Speaker 1>a smash record across every motherfucking thing it is. I

0:49:44.680 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't give a fuck who you was. You couldn't hate

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 1>on that record I brought.

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I broke that.

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I mean. But but you feel what

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:57.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. It's like let's just have it somehow, because

0:49:57.640 --> 0:50:00.480
<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm not talking about the cultural I think

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you supposed to represent your culture with Ladousa, you know,

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>with all that shit.

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:09.200
<v Speaker 3>But I eight hit it on the head. It was

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:13.200
<v Speaker 3>when we started this thing or back then, it was

0:50:13.600 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 3>for the love of the music, and it was the craft,

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 3>and it was it wasn't the biggest thing in the world.

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 3>So all of these white executives and Wall Street and

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.719
<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff, we're't in our mix. Now.

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.480
<v Speaker 3>All these publicly traded companies own all the radio stations,

0:50:29.560 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 3>own all the record companies, the liquor company, Seagrams. When

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.520
<v Speaker 3>they bought Universal was the beginning of the end of music.

0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 3>People in music. It became corporate, you know what I'm saying.

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.480
<v Speaker 3>So you know, now you've got all these white executives

0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:46.799
<v Speaker 3>running radio that have been living off what we did

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty years ago, you know what I mean. And the

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:50.720
<v Speaker 3>gas tank is empty.

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:52.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I mean right there. But you just

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 1>said it right there. You know, it's time. I don't

0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>got nothing against Jimmy Steele hit, but it's time for

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:05.040
<v Speaker 1>them to go. After a while. Man, change is always necessary.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Missing change is always necessary.

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.480
<v Speaker 3>But does it happen though? What happened?

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 4>You have when you have somebody in that position, just

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 4>just like with everything you get me. Of course, change

0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 4>should happen, and there should be more black NFL football coaches,

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 4>and there should be.

0:51:22.600 --> 0:51:25.280
<v Speaker 3>But at the end of the day, does it really

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 3>and it don't happen? Ates it ain't gonna be Jimmy Steele.

0:51:29.360 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna tell you the talent and I'm gonna

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:34.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you this right here, right I don't give a

0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>fuck if a motherfucker's black, green or whatever, as long

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>as they from the culture, bro, as long as the

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:43.359
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker is at least from the culture that have enough

0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>common sense to say, Okay, I'm gonna play this little

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:48.840
<v Speaker 1>rod record, Okay, I'm gonna invite shug up to the

0:51:49.080 --> 0:51:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, just shit this common sense, because when.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 3>You're not from culture, you're not from the coach. You

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 3>not go exercise and com center like shit.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 4>When back in my days when Kid Frost came out,

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 4>I didn't go or nigga that's a Mexican rapper.

0:52:04.480 --> 0:52:07.160
<v Speaker 3>I just went that nigga hard, That's what I'm saying.

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 4>Cyprus, he came out exactly, I said, Man, that ship

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 4>is hard, you get so to me at all, it's

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.359
<v Speaker 4>to me, it's all about the music you put out,

0:52:20.640 --> 0:52:24.040
<v Speaker 4>whether you black, whether you whatever. Shit you can be white.

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean shit, if you just put out some good, hard,

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:30.719
<v Speaker 4>decent ship, we don't categorize it as oh, that's a

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:33.360
<v Speaker 4>white motherfucker or that's a black motherfucker.

0:52:33.560 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 3>Them niggas is niggas go nigga. That record hard is

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:40.320
<v Speaker 3>a motherfucker. That's what I go. Now, shit is mediocre.

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:42.879
<v Speaker 3>It's just mediocre, Yeah it is. You can't do shit

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.960
<v Speaker 3>about that. But there is a double standard though, definitely

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:49.080
<v Speaker 3>there is a double standard. Trust me speak it well.

0:52:49.160 --> 0:52:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, because it's like, you know, the way that

0:52:54.040 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the game works sometimes is the people that end up

0:52:57.000 --> 0:52:59.640
<v Speaker 3>that you end up helping and they get into these positions,

0:53:00.239 --> 0:53:03.560
<v Speaker 3>they they'll turn around and hate on you, you know

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:06.040
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, like to try to like hold on

0:53:06.200 --> 0:53:08.440
<v Speaker 3>to their little spot. But you're not a threat to them.

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:10.919
<v Speaker 3>You put them there. You don't want to destroy their brand.

0:53:10.960 --> 0:53:14.080
<v Speaker 3>You want to help them. They're not doing well. It's like,

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 3>let me help. You know, you're a threat to me

0:53:16.600 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 3>because you're gonna bring someone new in because I was

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 3>new and you put me on. Do you know what

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:24.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like, I'm trying to revitalize your brand, not

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:25.440
<v Speaker 3>fuck you up.

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Recently, Power was just let go, let Philly fail, go

0:53:31.600 --> 0:53:35.359
<v Speaker 1>right Philly. Phil has been around almost since the beginning. Yeah,

0:53:35.560 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>did you bring Philly in? No, Jimmy brought him in.

0:53:38.120 --> 0:53:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But I'm the one that hooked him, you know what

0:53:40.520 --> 0:53:40.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:53:41.040 --> 0:53:43.440
<v Speaker 3>He was coming from Texas and he had some second

0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:46.319
<v Speaker 3>thoughts and Jimmy had me call him and.

0:53:48.080 --> 0:53:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Philly, you know, and you look at stuff like that.

0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Philly was a dude that was at their radio station

0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 1>for twenty years and the way they fired him was

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>fucked up. Twenty years man, and you know, Philly.

0:53:58.800 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 3>Didn't even let him finish the sh grab a box

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 3>and we're gonna walk you out. Shit.

0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 1>You know. The thing with Phailly I Philly had a

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 1>love you know, Philly helped people, kissed people off too.

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You ain't gonna be able to make everybody have you

0:54:13.680 --> 0:54:16.399
<v Speaker 1>but for the most day, yeah, But for the most part,

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Philly was a good dude. And if you brought him

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>a record that he liked, he was gonna try to

0:54:20.480 --> 0:54:22.839
<v Speaker 1>break it. He was gonna break it. Phay help break

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a couple of my records. But the thing you used

0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.359
<v Speaker 1>to do with motherfucker like that dog that that's been

0:54:28.440 --> 0:54:30.279
<v Speaker 1>around you so long, Like, hey, how would you feel

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>if you showed up to this motherfucker one day, right

0:54:33.480 --> 0:54:36.400
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't call you or nobody calls you to

0:54:36.440 --> 0:54:38.000
<v Speaker 1>take you out to lunch and you just show up

0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>here and you just gone.

0:54:40.840 --> 0:54:43.120
<v Speaker 3>They're like, that's it, the ride is over.

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.840
<v Speaker 1>You gotta treat motherfuckers better than that, though, Dog.

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 4>You expect for motherfuckers to treat people better than that.

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:56.520
<v Speaker 4>But in this shrewd world of money and business and

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:01.200
<v Speaker 4>there's somebody above you, I mean, some motherfuckers just ain't

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:05.000
<v Speaker 4>gonna give you the motherfucking dignity tea you deserve. You

0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 4>get me, and this is Hollywood. Yeah, you know what

0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 4>I mean for that shit all day. Nigga's been doing

0:55:11.800 --> 0:55:15.080
<v Speaker 4>shit for twenty thirty years and we still trying to

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 4>get respect for motherfuckers to be considered. Like Nigga, I'm

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:22.520
<v Speaker 4>just like you don't that's all you want, a decency.

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.279
<v Speaker 4>You treat me with respect and don't lie to me.

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Because see, I'm not mad about the thing about him

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 1>getting fired. That's just business.

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:55:30.000 --> 0:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>But to me, especially if motherfucker, like if it's a

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:35.719
<v Speaker 1>dude that's been up there for six months, you don't

0:55:35.719 --> 0:55:38.239
<v Speaker 1>know if he gonna cuts everybody out on an air

0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:41.320
<v Speaker 1>or whatever like that. Somebody like Philly give him a

0:55:41.480 --> 0:55:42.520
<v Speaker 1>chance to say bye.

0:55:42.800 --> 0:55:45.239
<v Speaker 3>And he's a good guy. You know, he's not gonna

0:55:45.280 --> 0:55:47.440
<v Speaker 3>do some bullshit. But you pull him off the air

0:55:47.520 --> 0:55:49.839
<v Speaker 3>before the end of his shift and start. I mean, dude,

0:55:49.920 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 3>it's obvious that Morello, god bless him, is being fooled

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 3>by these people, you know what I mean, the consultants

0:55:56.440 --> 0:55:58.000
<v Speaker 3>and all this kind of stuff, because how do you

0:55:58.160 --> 0:56:00.799
<v Speaker 3>tank all of these stations still have a job.

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:04.520
<v Speaker 1>They're trying to keep thy check going, That's what I'm saying.

0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 3>They're trying to.

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Keep thy check going, you know. And I don't want

0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:11.239
<v Speaker 1>to stay on color all night, man, because it's not important.

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>When do you think they decided to where this is

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 1>how we go roll with things in what contact like

0:56:22.280 --> 0:56:24.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, with these consultants that you talk about the

0:56:24.440 --> 0:56:28.480
<v Speaker 1>after run the station, right, I've never known no business

0:56:28.520 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>to offerate in that pretense to where if you not

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:33.960
<v Speaker 1>getting the numbers, everything's supposed to be based off analytics, right,

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:36.160
<v Speaker 1>if you're a rapper, you're not selling no records, they

0:56:36.200 --> 0:56:38.719
<v Speaker 1>will tell you, hey man, it's right here and last

0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:39.719
<v Speaker 1>two albums don't tank.

0:56:40.239 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Numbers don't like people do.

0:56:43.280 --> 0:56:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Everything should be based off analytics. If you're holding your

0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 1>shit down, you keep your job, everybody happy. If you're

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.720
<v Speaker 1>not holding it down, you gotta go. It ain't nothing personal,

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:56.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just what it is, right, It's.

0:56:56.080 --> 0:56:58.480
<v Speaker 3>Just what it is. So and you go down for

0:56:58.560 --> 0:57:01.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty years and everybody is really I mean, they don't

0:57:01.560 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 3>have a program director. Everybody has has refused the job.

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Why because they don't want to work for those with

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:13.200
<v Speaker 3>those three motherfuckers that are in charge. You know what

0:57:13.280 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like to you have somebody over there, I

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 3>mean the owner of the station, but they, I mean

0:57:19.200 --> 0:57:23.440
<v Speaker 3>obviously haven't got the picture that there's something rotten and

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.080
<v Speaker 3>you know, your trash can and starting to smell.

0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, you had a lot of motherfuckers hating

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube all they still doing. You had a whole

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:34.600
<v Speaker 1>bunch of and you came out. Yeah you know what

0:57:34.960 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I remember, I didn't know you did to save Seiche

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>record at first, and that.

0:57:39.400 --> 0:57:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Was which record got fucked up about. That is shade

0:57:42.640 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 3>Schist was signed to MS Broadcasting and the first million

0:57:46.640 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 3>dollar check was not to fifty cent. It was too

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:51.840
<v Speaker 3>MS Broadcasting for Shade Shist.

0:57:52.080 --> 0:57:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh so Shade was actually signed to the radio.

0:57:54.000 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 3>Stat was signed to the radio station. It was my

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:57.280
<v Speaker 3>job to do it.

0:57:58.720 --> 0:58:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, you see you open up. We're breaking news

0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:02.440
<v Speaker 1>on here. Now you remember that record eight?

0:58:02.640 --> 0:58:09.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I remember that, but it was EMIS's artist.

0:58:10.160 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 3>So so when it all hell broke loose, they threw

0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:16.160
<v Speaker 3>it on me. They were supposed to play the records,

0:58:16.240 --> 0:58:19.160
<v Speaker 3>but I went through FCC. That's why I never got busted,

0:58:19.800 --> 0:58:22.680
<v Speaker 3>because I went through FCC attorneys and knew corporate was

0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:23.880
<v Speaker 3>gonna fuck me at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this, how do a motherfucker get

0:58:26.120 --> 0:58:27.920
<v Speaker 1>signed to the radio sh ain't it?

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Well?

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:29.880
<v Speaker 2>What happened?

0:58:29.920 --> 0:58:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's kind of a long story, but I mean,

0:58:32.000 --> 0:58:35.440
<v Speaker 3>Shade was a friend of mine and I played a

0:58:35.560 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 3>demo of it. They said, because of the ratings and

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 3>all this kind of stuff, and they saw me producing

0:58:40.800 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 3>records from Riot Carey and all these other people. They said,

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 3>we want some of that money, so produce some records

0:58:47.520 --> 0:58:52.720
<v Speaker 3>for us and we'll play the records. We'll give you

0:58:52.800 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 3>a salary. I got a million dollar deal out of

0:58:55.920 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 3>the gate for them, and they didn't play the record.

0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Power played the records, but not their other stations. You

0:59:03.680 --> 0:59:06.000
<v Speaker 3>think that was because they was hating Oh hell yes.

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 3>And then she said to those stations to fix them

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:11.280
<v Speaker 3>when they fucked up.

0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.640
<v Speaker 1>So you had to go down there and tell them

0:59:15.640 --> 0:59:16.959
<v Speaker 1>because that was a big ass record.

0:59:17.040 --> 0:59:19.080
<v Speaker 3>They sent me to Hot ninety seven to fix Hot

0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:22.320
<v Speaker 3>ninety seven when Little Kim shot it up. And then

0:59:22.360 --> 0:59:24.720
<v Speaker 3>they had the game thing. They had jay Z going

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:26.920
<v Speaker 3>to Power one on five and the Breakfast Club and

0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:28.880
<v Speaker 3>all this kind of stuff. Who you think they sent

0:59:28.920 --> 0:59:29.360
<v Speaker 3>to New York.

0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:31.560
<v Speaker 1>You had to go out there and hold it down.

0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I had to go pull jay Z off the competition.

0:59:35.000 --> 0:59:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I had to go clean up the Atlantic Low Kim mess,

0:59:40.880 --> 0:59:45.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, and do all of that. I mean, because

0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:47.400
<v Speaker 3>people didn't look it's the same thing now that it

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:49.600
<v Speaker 3>was then. They didn't know the people to have the

0:59:49.680 --> 0:59:51.200
<v Speaker 3>conversation to squash the ship.

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got a relationship with everybody. And how did

0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you start producing from Ariah here?

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.320
<v Speaker 3>She came into the station one night and we just

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 3>hit it off, and she she just asked, what else

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<v Speaker 3>I do? I said, oh, I've been making beats. She said,

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<v Speaker 3>let me hear something. And then she heard that Willie

1:00:06.400 --> 1:00:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Wonker ship and said, oh, that can be the remix

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<v Speaker 3>for I still believe. And that's how that started.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how that started. And you had actually pretty good

1:00:12.400 --> 1:00:13.200
<v Speaker 1>friendship with her too.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were cool, said we were cool. It was cool.

1:00:17.320 --> 1:00:20.400
<v Speaker 1>Give me that smile, was cool. Miss You smiled like

1:00:20.440 --> 1:00:23.480
<v Speaker 1>you hit that or something. My friend, you smiled like

1:00:23.520 --> 1:00:24.400
<v Speaker 1>you tapped that as.

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<v Speaker 3>She was. She was a wonderful person.

1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 1>He's a wonderful person, though she's a bad motherfucker. Nick Cannon,

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:36.200
<v Speaker 1>never get any people you over. I have nothing against

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:39.800
<v Speaker 1>neck Next. I'm glad they had a good run. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a good man. You produced on some big ass records, man,

1:00:42.480 --> 1:00:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and you was fucking with everybody at that time many,

1:00:46.640 --> 1:00:49.919
<v Speaker 1>I mean everybody. So with the shade shy ship, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a trip. You never found out the truth about

1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.280
<v Speaker 1>shipped later on was every boy and their mama swarping

1:00:55.320 --> 1:00:56.919
<v Speaker 1>down that that was you, the de of that deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what what's fucked up is I get blamed

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of shit and people take the credit

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<v Speaker 3>for a lot of shit that I did. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, I just never felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just stay quiet, you know, like like with you,

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<v Speaker 3>you never addressed beef. No, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 3>Like throughout your career you have been a gentleman about

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<v Speaker 3>that shit, like you just try to stay out the fray, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean, because motherfucker's gonna have their opinions. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>my my beef thing went as far as it did

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<v Speaker 4>over really just neighborhood gang shit.

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<v Speaker 3>And then once I was able to you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>ain't like on that page.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you know, I ain't riding around in the hood

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<v Speaker 4>with the strap, you know, with the rag down my pocket.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm fucking out and went from that to

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<v Speaker 4>a different level. So once that happened, like I'm beef

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<v Speaker 4>with niggas.

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<v Speaker 1>Beef for what like, Yeah, it shouldn't be especially assually

1:02:00.400 --> 1:02:03.760
<v Speaker 1>in some rap shit, beef with no rap nigga.

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<v Speaker 3>You hit me.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially at this time, And you know what, mss, It's

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:10.000
<v Speaker 1>almost like you was just born to do radio. You've

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<v Speaker 1>been working in the radio since I was twelve years old. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how to fuck do a twelve year old kid get

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<v Speaker 1>a job?

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<v Speaker 3>He carefully?

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<v Speaker 4>Shit, I was a I was a fourteen, fifteen year

1:02:24.680 --> 1:02:29.200
<v Speaker 4>old kid hanging around. You know, got introduced to a

1:02:29.320 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 4>nigga who was a beat maker and the DJ at clubs, and.

1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:36.520
<v Speaker 3>He took me and Chill under his wing.

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<v Speaker 4>Nigga, and we was we was young niggas going to

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<v Speaker 4>club I mean we wasn't we was starting on a

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<v Speaker 4>rap career.

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<v Speaker 3>I was mentorship.

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<v Speaker 4>But exactly, Nigga. We go to the clubs, nigga, and

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<v Speaker 4>we was too young to get in. But shit, nigga,

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<v Speaker 4>we still be hiding out behind the DJs because we

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<v Speaker 4>get there early, unload the trucks with the crates and

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<v Speaker 4>all the records, and so by time the club get

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<v Speaker 4>to going, nigga, we already in.

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<v Speaker 1>That. That was the same you know, check this out though,

1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:09.560
<v Speaker 1>but the same producer that you took you under his

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<v Speaker 1>wing as a little here you use.

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<v Speaker 3>The remainder of your career pretty much. Oh yeah, Slip did.

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<v Speaker 4>Slipp did ninety percent of my my production throughout my

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<v Speaker 4>mc ACMDUB career.

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<v Speaker 3>That's yeah, that's just that's just like intorship, loyalty, keep going. Slip.

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<v Speaker 3>Slip was Slip was a nigga who was he was

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<v Speaker 3>you yit me? He was there.

1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:40.520
<v Speaker 4>He was known La Sound Control Mob. He knew Lonzo Unknown.

1:03:42.120 --> 1:03:45.240
<v Speaker 4>His pops had a business where they supplied all the

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<v Speaker 4>speakers for all the concerts at World on wheels or

1:03:49.840 --> 1:03:54.640
<v Speaker 4>the Convention Center and shit. So when I got introduced

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<v Speaker 4>to Slip, he was already in the world of hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. He was a producer.

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<v Speaker 4>He had done a lot of techno records, so, and

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<v Speaker 4>he was a DJ, and he was looking at JO

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<v Speaker 4>clubs like Water to Bush, Paradise, all that type of ship.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to hang out a ship like that as

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<v Speaker 4>a young kid, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They got coached the fuck up. That's what they signed was.

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<v Speaker 4>Published trying to you, trying to trans trying to transition

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<v Speaker 4>from because nigga I was still in the hood, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That.

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<v Speaker 4>That is what made me go, oh, instead of catching

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<v Speaker 4>the bus to the hood today, I catch the bus

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<v Speaker 4>over here to Guardena and go chill with the niggas.

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<v Speaker 4>They had a fox track in the studio and nothing

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<v Speaker 4>but a gang of speakers and DJ equipment.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, I was fascinated by that ship. It didn't

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<v Speaker 3>it didn't mean ship.

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<v Speaker 4>When we was up at three o'clock in the morning

1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:54.800
<v Speaker 4>wrapping up cords and ship and then we stop at

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<v Speaker 4>Tommy Berger's Downtown LA and slipped by everybody Burgers and

1:04:58.960 --> 1:05:02.560
<v Speaker 4>ship to the nigga. That shit was everything. And I

1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:04.720
<v Speaker 4>was a young kid, didn't want to go to school,

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<v Speaker 4>none of that shit. Same shit, miss it. You know

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<v Speaker 4>some of this business be talking. That's a movie I

1:05:09.600 --> 1:05:12.320
<v Speaker 4>want to do dog sure, I want to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to do the Cem dub story. And I really,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really on my one of my missions for twenty

1:05:17.800 --> 1:05:20.720
<v Speaker 4>twenty four back. I shared something with y'all and it

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of just hit me again. Last week. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was in the hospital. Last week I talked to you.

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<v Speaker 4>We supposed to do this interview last week. We supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to start the season up. Last week I couldn't even

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<v Speaker 4>physically call ating them and tell him I wasn't coming.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so bad. I had to you know, shoot

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<v Speaker 1>a text start and say, man, like I can't. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't do it. You know, I'm in the hospital. But

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<v Speaker 1>it made me realize we need to take control of

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<v Speaker 1>our own stories, man, and we need to tell our

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<v Speaker 1>own stories so people not written out of history, because

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<v Speaker 1>a story should be written from a factual standpoint, like

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<v Speaker 1>when they wrote like if somebody ever writes a story

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<v Speaker 1>about the gangst the chronicles, I want every part of

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<v Speaker 1>it too, the good, the bad, you know, like everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well part of part of the reason. Or how I

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<v Speaker 3>was I've I've just can't come back on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, over the last couple of weeks, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've hit about a million people. And how I did

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<v Speaker 3>it was I was watching the what's that Doctor Dre

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<v Speaker 3>movie with Jimmy Iveen, the whatever I forgot the name

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<v Speaker 3>of it, but whatever it is, and they were telling

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<v Speaker 3>the story, Oh yeah, the Defiant One, the Defiant Ones,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh shit, that's how that happened. And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, well they should missing a lot of ship,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>People have a tendency to rewrite history.

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<v Speaker 3>And rewriting the narrative. And what keeps us, what keeps

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<v Speaker 3>rap legendary, has always been the narrative. You know what

1:06:46.720 --> 1:06:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, It's a story, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>what you're saying about the beginning, middle and in well,

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<v Speaker 3>they what they do is cut out everybody else and

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<v Speaker 3>say we did this ourselves so that they can keep

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<v Speaker 3>the narrative on themselves. They're not gonna tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>Jimmy called me and said, hey, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? But what would have happened

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<v Speaker 3>to Dre's career if I would have taken that call?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? Where would Dre and Snoopy right now? Ain't

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<v Speaker 3>how much made so much money off of that? How

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<v Speaker 3>many jobs did that create?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Now? You think about doctor Dre right, how many

1:07:21.760 --> 1:07:23.560
<v Speaker 1>artists he don't work with? That he just don't work

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<v Speaker 1>with no more? And they wherever they yet, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know their personal relationships or whatever like that, but they

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<v Speaker 1>could have stayed not talking to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was the thing he said when I first

1:07:34.080 --> 1:07:36.720
<v Speaker 3>went to him and said, would you work with Snoop again? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I just haven't talked to him in a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>but I put that motherfucker back on him. And then

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<v Speaker 3>Snoop said the exact same thing about Dre. So I

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<v Speaker 3>just put him in the room together. Because it always

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<v Speaker 3>comes down to some ego shit, this Hollywood bullshit of

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<v Speaker 3>oh I love you, I love you, but I won't

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<v Speaker 3>return your call because I don't want to have it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's that bullshit because they're guilty. They feel guilt because

1:08:00.920 --> 1:08:03.080
<v Speaker 3>you did so much shit for them. They don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how to say thank you, but they're being assholes. So

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<v Speaker 3>what do I say? Sorry? Do I say I love you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like, and it turns into

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<v Speaker 3>some bullshit and it's just like, get over it, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not here for that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's work, Let's get some shit done. Hip hop fucked

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<v Speaker 3>up for really.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of that, A lot of that goes back

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<v Speaker 4>to again, Uh, the egos of the walks of life

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<v Speaker 4>that you walk came from you know, niggas feeling like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I got to represent a certain a certain

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<v Speaker 4>gangsterism or hardness too as something that's simple with Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>tell a nigga to call.

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<v Speaker 3>Me, you get me. It's a lot of how he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing let me get Really, it'd be just the ego of.

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<v Speaker 4>Really our downfall was really because of something else outside

1:08:59.520 --> 1:09:04.040
<v Speaker 4>of it was nothing really personal. So well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we all make mistakes, we all say stupid shit, we

1:09:07.200 --> 1:09:10.240
<v Speaker 4>all do dumb things sometimes, but you know, it is

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<v Speaker 4>what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Get over it, you know what I mean? Like, I

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<v Speaker 3>know I have ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let me ask you this. I have a question.

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<v Speaker 1>Man from the audience. You and Nocturnal, y'all had an affair.

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<v Speaker 1>You was taking care of Nocturnal.

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<v Speaker 3>Nocturnal is a good friend of mine to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's scared. At the beginning of the West Side Connection,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a joke, wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I was the fucking producer. I could have muted it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can't smoke none of my weed, drink dumb on

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<v Speaker 3>on my hand fucked him, is it? I was a producer.

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<v Speaker 3>I could have mute. I thought it was funny. He

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<v Speaker 3>said take it out. We were actually testing the mic.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a first take, and I just kept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know what I forgot about that record means

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<v Speaker 1>you got some production critics like a motherfucker, And.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you all, no, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Them placements didn't have nothing to do with him his

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<v Speaker 1>position up at Paul either, because I think at that

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<v Speaker 1>point she was going already with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean it was around, there was, it was before,

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<v Speaker 3>during and after. You know, I was always doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, but when I when I was doing

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<v Speaker 3>radio that, you know, they said I couldn't do production,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. I even put out cruising

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<v Speaker 3>and I wrapped on it. You know what I mean, Like, God,

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<v Speaker 3>they hated that one, you know what I mean, But

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, who gives a fuck? This is hip hop?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you should happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Why was the masses upset that you were producing records

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<v Speaker 4>because they were getting played play your position Like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't I don't understand that, just like okay, I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 4>the program director or whatever, but.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not fair. You have to produce. I produced, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah anything, that's just like you know, that's just like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we got the show, and then I turned

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<v Speaker 4>around and go, shit, I'm gonna go do me a show.

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<v Speaker 4>And the next thing you know, I started getting calls

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<v Speaker 4>from from you know, other motherfucker like, oh, you can't

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<v Speaker 4>do your own show?

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<v Speaker 3>Like what do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Shit? I would love who's the one to be telling

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<v Speaker 1>you that you need to be doing the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like when you stop

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<v Speaker 3>doing for them and you do for yourself, then they say,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute, that's my spot. Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>So they wanted the records or they wanted those they

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<v Speaker 4>wanted those records.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, like you see y'all so well I can look

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<v Speaker 3>at this. I could see there.

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<v Speaker 4>I could see their sabotaging ways with you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>got a program director who's going out here producing all

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<v Speaker 4>these records for Shade, Schie and Mariah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so and so, and they're not are records, and

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<v Speaker 3>you didn't clear them through us. Why would I have

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<v Speaker 3>to control I'm the one to put them on I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not I'm I'm a program director here. I'm not signed

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<v Speaker 3>to you as an artist or producer. So but I

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<v Speaker 3>could see the workings of that.

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<v Speaker 4>You give me jealous motherfuckers and haters are gonna hate because, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>this nigga working for us as a radio programmer, but

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<v Speaker 4>he's got hit records out here on the other late

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<v Speaker 4>and to them, they feeling like, well, we want to

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<v Speaker 4>get into that game, So why aren't you bringing those

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<v Speaker 4>records here?

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<v Speaker 3>And you can still bring them a million dollar check?

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<v Speaker 3>And they're still gonna hate on.

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<v Speaker 1>You and trust and believing what I know about artists,

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no artists out there. I don't give a fuck

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<v Speaker 1>who you is. Ain't no artists, not no major artists.

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<v Speaker 1>Ain't nobody go fuck up their reputation. They project their career,

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<v Speaker 1>always just saying well, I'm gonna get a radio dude

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<v Speaker 1>a beat and you know, get a beat for the

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<v Speaker 1>radio due to Hopeully play it because theyn't believe me.

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<v Speaker 1>Mariah Carey, you need Joel for lifting at that time, No,

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't bet.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what was so great about Power one on six

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<v Speaker 3>and all of the power that we have was we

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<v Speaker 3>were kind of an r in the records too, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I put jay Z and Mariah Carey together, which helped

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<v Speaker 3>jay Z get into uh, you know, the Philippines and

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<v Speaker 3>other markets. And I introduced him to eminem and I

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<v Speaker 3>gave him The Watcher part two. I think I pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much introduced him to Dre like you know what I

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<v Speaker 3>mean at the powerhouses, you know what I mean, Like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know you for a long time, Malcolm. You never

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<v Speaker 1>told me no this shit. You just humble motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people. It's my job. I never looked

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<v Speaker 3>at it. It's anything fucking special.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I don't want my helpens to think that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to use that as a as a status

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<v Speaker 4>or stepping stone. A lot of shit just be kept

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<v Speaker 4>quiet because people look at shit differently. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>gotta gotta keep shit quiet sometimes because like you said once,

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<v Speaker 4>motherfuckers find out, some motherfuckers turned envious.

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<v Speaker 1>And you motherfucker miss it. Let me ask, because you

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<v Speaker 1>never a motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 4>You're all motherfucker gonna call you a liar, Yeah right, nigga,

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<v Speaker 4>yeah right, yeah right, you did.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure you did, Sure you introduced so and so or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, by you being a single man, man and

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<v Speaker 1>you being around all of these fine as artists, man,

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<v Speaker 1>these females. Man, how much pussy did you get? How

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<v Speaker 1>much superstar pussy did you get back? How much I

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<v Speaker 1>still get? You know, when doctor Dre said I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>done spending n w a money, apply it man, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just ain't it ain't too much. It ain't too much

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<v Speaker 1>that can excite you.

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<v Speaker 3>Then, you know, when you've seen it all and done

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<v Speaker 3>it all, it's just kind of like you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>just and you know the amount of bullshit that I

1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:50.800
<v Speaker 3>had to deal with and I still deal with it's

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, like you know, yeah, keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is.

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<v Speaker 3>They're always after something. There's nobody that's just your you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, people that say, oh, I'm your friend,

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<v Speaker 3>I love you. Da da da da dah. Yeah, motherfucker,

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<v Speaker 3>you ain't call me in you know, what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>like where my grammar died. It was like, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll post all this stuff on Instagram, but I won't

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<v Speaker 3>call you, you know what I mean, Like the real

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<v Speaker 3>ones picked up the phone and callon. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>This is a treacherous game. And if you if you

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<v Speaker 3>have been able to withstand.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of the potholes in the road on your journey,

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<v Speaker 4>once you get to a part of the road where

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<v Speaker 4>for you it's smooth, I'm I'm cool. I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to pick up no hit hikers. I don't want to

1:15:41.840 --> 1:15:45.800
<v Speaker 4>stop and look at now, no new cars. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to Oh man, I could do this, so no,

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<v Speaker 4>my ship running fine, it's smooth selling and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want no detours.

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<v Speaker 3>You get me. I don't need to try to take

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<v Speaker 3>the high road to get there faster. You give me.

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<v Speaker 4>At this point, I'm the on crew controlling. I can

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<v Speaker 4>just sit back because Nigga dons seen so much bullshit

1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:07.880
<v Speaker 4>and had to dodge so many curves and obstacles, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you know, motherfuckers say they gonna you know what

1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:13.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, And the next thing you know, you stop

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<v Speaker 4>at a Nigga gas station for some repairs and nigga,

1:16:16.680 --> 1:16:22.599
<v Speaker 4>don took your rims off, you pull off your ship

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<v Speaker 4>and just making a noise right now and backfiring and shit.

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<v Speaker 4>So nigga once when you take that long journey and

1:16:30.720 --> 1:16:33.479
<v Speaker 4>you get to a point to where a nigga right now, nigga,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm cruising.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. You know, the biggest thing I do on Experienced

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<v Speaker 1>eight is you could be everybody's best friend. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell you a powerful word the first time you say

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you saying oh, yeah, I could do it,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much it is hurting you, no matter

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<v Speaker 1>if people don't give a fuck about this, the rest

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<v Speaker 1>it may be putting you under.

1:16:52.760 --> 1:16:54.400
<v Speaker 3>As long as you keep saying yeah to him.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment you say no, you ain't shit, that's when

1:16:57.080 --> 1:16:59.360
<v Speaker 1>you find out how you I didn't really feel about you, you.

1:16:59.400 --> 1:17:01.720
<v Speaker 3>Know what I mean? Your question and still you saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people did I make rich? Made a whole

1:17:05.160 --> 1:17:09.360
<v Speaker 3>bunch of motherfuckers very wealthy. I haven't heard from nobody

1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:13.280
<v Speaker 3>since I left Power one six. Not one person nobody

1:17:14.320 --> 1:17:16.960
<v Speaker 3>let me except for except for joh Rule and Nerve Gotty.

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<v Speaker 3>That the people from my own coast don't even give

1:17:19.800 --> 1:17:22.720
<v Speaker 3>me the credit, but IRV Goody and jo Rule every

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<v Speaker 3>time I drink Champs anything like that, they mentioned me

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for doing what you did.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy, man, that nutty. That's real crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you're saying is there'll be your friend when

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<v Speaker 3>you can do something. They're not your friend when they

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever.

1:17:37.840 --> 1:17:40.960
<v Speaker 4>And then to be motherfucker's writing your own backyard who

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<v Speaker 4>it's always the closest.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>Miss you got into the radio game. You were twelve

1:17:49.120 --> 1:17:52.559
<v Speaker 1>years old, right as a twelve year old kid from

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<v Speaker 1>Oxen Art. Did you ever a Santa Barbara as a

1:17:55.800 --> 1:17:58.320
<v Speaker 1>twelve year old five as a twelve year old kid

1:17:58.400 --> 1:18:00.760
<v Speaker 1>from Santa Barbara, did you ever a imagine that you

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<v Speaker 1>would have the career that you do, all the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you've done.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, dude. When I saw that I was

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<v Speaker 3>number four and the Source Power thirty, I shipped myself

1:18:10.840 --> 1:18:12.920
<v Speaker 3>like I was like, there's no way this is me,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is Source magazine, Like there's no way. When

1:18:18.320 --> 1:18:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I read the review of Nate Dogg's music in Me,

1:18:20.520 --> 1:18:23.679
<v Speaker 3>the title track, I was just like there's no way,

1:18:24.760 --> 1:18:28.280
<v Speaker 3>Like there's just who are you? Right? Now and you did.

1:18:28.520 --> 1:18:29.479
<v Speaker 3>You're living in your dream.

1:18:29.720 --> 1:18:33.120
<v Speaker 1>You know it's you did it, So you look go back.

1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:33.760
<v Speaker 3>That trip me off.

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<v Speaker 1>So you and eat Man don't talk all the time, No,

1:18:38.920 --> 1:18:39.600
<v Speaker 1>with all, just with.

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<v Speaker 3>All trying to talk about the number one hater on

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<v Speaker 3>the planet is the man Man for those who don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you've been saying ship for years, but God bless him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Man is the it was he the associopedi. He's

1:18:52.760 --> 1:18:55.559
<v Speaker 1>the director of power. Yeah.

1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, do you ever think we will see you back

1:18:57.960 --> 1:19:00.519
<v Speaker 3>on power or radio? Not with the people that are running.

1:19:00.520 --> 1:19:03.200
<v Speaker 1>And now what would it take for you to come back?

1:19:03.600 --> 1:19:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Either buy that motherfucker got it? If I tell you this,

1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I'll make that motherfucker number one faster than you could

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<v Speaker 3>shake a stick at it.

1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh for sure. With us, you know, were about to

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<v Speaker 1>shut this down, but may gouts some other stuff to

1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:18.040
<v Speaker 1>talk to you about.

1:19:18.120 --> 1:19:18.280
<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate you guys tuning in with us this evening. Well,

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