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Speaker 3: We gonna tell you how are we goals? If I

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Speaker 1: rating and comment Jill, you know what it is? Another

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Speaker 1: episode a gangst the Chronicles. I'm with the homie big

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Speaker 1: steal man. Hey, it's been a long time. You just

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Speaker 1: came back from from Europe, trouncing all over Europe. Man

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Speaker 1: out there killing the shows. I saw everything was sold

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's all good. Man.

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Speaker 4: Tell people they treat us a little differently overseas, man.

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Speaker 4: Seemed like you get a little more respect overseas, and

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Speaker 4: and people really appreciate.

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Speaker 3: Where you come from.

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Speaker 4: You know, how long you've been putting in uh work,

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Speaker 4: trying to represent whatever form of hip hop you may

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Speaker 4: what I've been able to do, uh is greatly appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: When you got sold out shows in different countries and

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Speaker 4: song's word for word. That's that's just appreciation, you feel me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's appreciated for sure.

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Speaker 1: I noticed that too when I went over to Japan.

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Speaker 1: Over in Japan you get Michael Jackson treatment, England you

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Speaker 4: I think it's just different levels of you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: because I never gotten the music to try to glorify

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Speaker 4: Uh that's how it works today, which is you know,

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Speaker 1: He shouldn't need an introduction, but this is Damian Young,

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Speaker 4: I never thought about making club friendly songs or uh

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Speaker 1: Did you know how valuable you were to the Epic system?

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Speaker 4: I thought, honestly, I was probably a write off to

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Speaker 4: Many they were distributing Death Champan Sony Sony was distributed.

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Speaker 3: But like me at Epic, I mean, who could you do?

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Speaker 4: Like again, they had at the time when I signed

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Speaker 4: But I've learned right now to just stay the fuck

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Speaker 1: Mean exactly, But he obviously, see what should you never know?

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Speaker 3: if I tell the mixes that you're coming, they're not

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00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 3: going to show up. So we surprised the mixers and

435
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 3: when he walked in, they all hit the back wall, like,

436
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 3: they all got up, and I'm like.

437
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: He's not going to kill you. Like see, that's kind

438
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: of like you know yea.

439
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: And Jimmy Steele, the program director by the way, when

440
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: he was smoking his cigard and there, I said, sure,

441
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: you can't smoke in here, and he put you put

442
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: the thing out. He's like, I'm sorry, mis and my

443
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 3: program director literally shit himself, Like I mean, it was

444
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 3: just like, dude, what are you into? How are you?

445
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, man, And this is what I'm

446
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: gonna say about that. You can't you can't do your business,

447
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,400
Speaker 1: make black culture your business, but be scared to deal

448
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: with the people.

449
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 4: Well that's because you know the image that you know

450
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 4: that was put off by past you know, past situations

451
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: or you know.

452
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: What you hear a word of mouth that scared some motherfuckers.

453
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: You know, you hear a motherfucker and hung a nigga

454
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: off a balcony, or you hear a motherfucker and had

455
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 4: motherfucker's asses whooped in a private room in the red room,

456
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 4: or niggas hear stories so and especially at the executive level,

457
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: that's scared of shit out of motherfuckers. When niggas got

458
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 4: to the point to where they start walking in labels

459
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 4: and offices with baseball bats and ready to beat motherfucker's

460
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: ass over records and songs played, that changed a lot

461
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: of error for motherfuckers.

462
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what the thing is though, Miser

463
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: made it cool for everybody to come to the station, though,

464
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: because you just didn't extend that treatment to Shug. Yeah,

465
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,880
Speaker 1: I guarantee you eight, because you was on priority around

466
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: that time, ninety seven, right ninety eight, ninety eight, I

467
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 1: guarantee you. If somebody could have connected y'all too, just

468
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: took the time, just did their job and just say, hey,

469
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: eight is coming out with a record. Because that album,

470
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: you had some joints that could have played on Power.

471
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, we kind of switched it up a little bit

472
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: when I got the Priority through Mac ten through Who Banging?

473
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 3: So was that the Mark Benisher? I think Mark was.

474
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: There's a few dudes there. It was a few dudes

475
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: there at probably already at the time when Mac t

476
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 4: and that Who Banging?

477
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: Master P was the same thing. I mean, he had

478
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: that or whatever of you know, don't fuck with him,

479
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like, but you know, the

480
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: thing was is like what because Mark Benniss was a

481
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: was a big influence on me, and he taught me

482
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 3: just kind of how to deal with people, you know

483
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: what I mean, It's like you're gonna experience this. And

484
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 3: he actually put me in a room with P and

485
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 3: Boz to see if they could intimidate me and kind

486
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: of thing, you know what I mean. And I was

487
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 3: just like it is what it is.

488
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I could say about you was this.

489
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: You definitely was fucking with everybody. That's why when they

490
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: told me he had mixed, I was like shop that.

491
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: Let me know. The Priority just dropped the ball like

492
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: a motherfucker, you know what I mean.

493
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And then like I said, I was I've never

494
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: been a.

495
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: Nigga who quest for you know that type of shit,

496
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 4: you know, And there's people out there, you know, like

497
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 4: or we need to get with the we need to

498
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: get with the program director, and we need to do this,

499
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 4: and when you know, managers and all that shit. I

500
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 4: never had that be getting.

501
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: You can see that ain't necessarily your job.

502
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 3: But on who banging, I mean, i had such a

503
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: great relationship with mac Tenna.

504
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that, yeah, because I didn't. Again I was.

505
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 4: I've always been sort of lone wolf type of motherfucking artists.

506
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 4: When when the work is done at the studio, nigga,

507
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: I'm out of here and I'm going on the other

508
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: side of the motherfucking planet, and you probably ain't gonna

509
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 4: see me until it's time to do something. I wasn't

510
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: a nigga who just hung out like a lot of people,

511
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 4: you know, were active in the community. We're gonna go

512
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 4: to concerts, We're gonna go. I never did that ship. Yeah,

513
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: I would never see eight around. I never was around.

514
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 3: That's why we never met. You know, he wouldn't going

515
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 3: to hang out type of guy. I just do the clubs.

516
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: I didn't do the radio station functions, the powers and

517
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: the big cons.

518
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: I didn't do that shit.

519
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: Well, I told you. When we first came in and

520
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: men was sitting here talking and we was talking about you,

521
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: and I said, Man, to be honest with you, I

522
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: love doing the show with eight because Eight is really

523
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: no nonsense, Like you always gonna know what it deals

524
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: with him, but it ain't no ulterior motives, it ain't

525
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: no bullshit. He gonna tell you what he thinks on

526
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: his mind and that's it. And I told him, I said, well, man,

527
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: the first year we did the show, I said, man,

528
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: I might talk to Eight five minutes outside the show

529
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: every week, and I was kind of worried. I ain't

530
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I can say it now. I was like, man,

531
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: this dude don't talk. I said, how are we gonna

532
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: do this show together? Especially when all the other stuff

533
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: started coming up. And then once he got the he

534
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: a dude, that trust is earned with him. You have

535
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: to earn your way in with him. He's not gonna

536
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: give you the Hollywood political phony shit. He just gonna

537
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: give it to you raw and none cut.

538
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's enough niggas for that. It's enough niggas to

539
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: play that position.

540
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't.

541
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna play that position. So you just have

542
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: to know what it is.

543
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 3: Man.

544
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 4: I'm a simple motherfucker. But like you said, I don't

545
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 4: like the bullshit around because there's a lot of When

546
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: you've been in this radio music shit, man, you.

547
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 3: See a lot of fucking bullshit.

548
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 4: Ye, And you see a lot of motherfuckers that you

549
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: think are one way.

550
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: Motherfuckers really ain't authentic. Man.

551
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: You know, some niggas is cutthroat, some niggas don't give

552
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: a fuck about shit, and so that make you really

553
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, you gotta stand with your back against the

554
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: wall and just watch motherfuckers coming and feel.

555
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: With him saying that niss you was in a real

556
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: pivotal time. Man, it was dangerous. It's still dangerous on

557
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: the West Coast, but it was dangerous as the motherfucker

558
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: bet Yeah, especially if you had something that somebody wanted

559
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: and as soon as somebody see you, they just see Man,

560
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: this dude can change my life. He could play my record.

561
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: Knowing how the industry work, he can play my records

562
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: one hundred times a day if he wants to. And

563
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: every you guys have a playlist, correct, there's a playlist,

564
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: and is that playlist is based on research that they

565
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: actually do call out and see what people are fucking with.

566
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: So they got to play with that because the average

567
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: person that listen to radio, and this is some game

568
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: out there for y'all rappers that think that radio is

569
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: hating on you, August I had to go get educated

570
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: on it. It's based on what call out says. Correct.

571
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: If it ain't nobody, there's no demand for your record,

572
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: ain't no demand for it.

573
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: And the average.

574
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: Motherfucker that listening to radio only listen to it for

575
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes at a time, Am I correct? Is the

576
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes y? They only listen to it for fifteen

577
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: minutes at a time. So what they're trying to do

578
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: when people wonder why they're hearing the same damn record

579
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: all the time, is because that record shows test good

580
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: and call out and they trying to catch it. So

581
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: when eight getting his car driving back to BFE, they

582
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: can hear the records that hit, records that they like

583
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: and make their trip listen. Yeah WL correct.

584
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. In fifteen minutes, you want to have like the

585
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: hottest record in the world, the one classic that makes

586
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 3: you go oh wow, and one that's like either coming

587
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 3: down or coming up kind of thing. So I mean

588
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: you want to keep people's attention as long as possible.

589
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: You're fighting for quarter hours is really what it is

590
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 3: the fifteen minutes, and the more fifteen minutes you get,

591
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: the higher the ratings go. So every fifteen minutes a

592
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 3: million people would tune in. But how did you how

593
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 3: long did they stay? And my thing was, yeah, the

594
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: records were one thing, but we were. What I was

595
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: trying to get was the passion records. You know, all

596
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: about you, you know, ain't no fun all the records

597
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 3: that were never on the radio before. That would make

598
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 3: people go, oh shit, that's on the radio. You know

599
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 3: what I mean? Because I was just a fan of it.

600
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: So that's what I wanted to hear on the radio,

601
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: the shit that I never heard on the radio before.

602
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: And that's dope and it actually worked. Now did you

603
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: ever have those moments? Is like say, it was a

604
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: real dangerous ear? Fuck?

605
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: Yes? Did you?

606
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: Some NIX you can talk about what's the most tripped

607
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: where artists really just just trip you up? What artists

608
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: aren't anybody manager whoever?

609
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had you know, people pull out guns,

610
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: I've had people offer money. I've had rappers that I

611
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: did favors for it, and they didn't understand why I

612
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 3: did it, or offered me guns, bring me backpacks and

613
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 3: hear them clank, and it's like, you know, I was like,

614
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: that's not what I'm doing this for. If it was

615
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: right for my radio station, I fucking did it. So

616
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 3: I mean, how long did I spend with you still?

617
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean explaining everything?

618
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Man, he broke it down. I mean, you know, I

619
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: was ourtist. I was young at one time. Everybody you know,

620
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: and so I'm artist, and so I'm like everybody else.

621
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm kind of ignorant at that time, because you know

622
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: how you in that young mode, you think everybody hate

623
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: you know you're right. So I came up there with

624
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: the intention of not liking this motherfucker. You stopped me

625
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: from getting what I need. Once he broke it down

626
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: to me, I was glad he did it because it

627
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: changed the whole way I made music, and it changed

628
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: my whole direction kind of. And I felt like a

629
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: dumb ass.

630
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: Well, and it only took a couple of those type

631
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 3: of meetings before everybody kind of got it. You know

632
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. The dude's not an asshole. He'll either

633
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 3: play your record if it's right for the radio station,

634
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: or he'll tell you why he can't. Eventually got a

635
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 3: record that was playing. I got.

636
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: I had a couple of records that was played.

637
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 3: I got a good story for you.

638
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: The tribe in Hawaii, Okay, what.

639
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 3: Happened with so I should send the Buya tribe to

640
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 3: Hawaii to uh disrupt the uh the reunion with Drey

641
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: and Snoop, and Snoop came out and he's like, the

642
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: Buja tribes downstairs. You know we're gonna go down in this.

643
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: I said, hold on, I'll take care of it. All

644
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: the white bore. You're gonna handle this. I said, don't

645
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: worry about it. I got it. So I went down

646
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 3: there and first thing I said was back up before

647
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: I knock you out. And they all looked at me, like,

648
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 3: that's this muff right, And I said, look, I've known

649
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: you guys since back in EYC and when you guys

650
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: were making YC records on MCA, and if you guys

651
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 3: ever want to get your records, there's a way to

652
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: do it. You guys are gonna come in and join

653
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 3: the party, or you're gonna fuck up the party. Which

654
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: way you want to do it? And Godfather rest Is.

655
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 3: So they just sat there and we talked and the

656
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 3: next thing, you know, I mean to this day, I

657
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: talked to Goddy all the time, Giant all the time,

658
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: Cobra every once in a while, you know. I mean,

659
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: I love those.

660
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: Guys and the boot Yo. That could have went bad,

661
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: it's real bad.

662
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 3: But you know, at the time, I really, you know,

663
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: I was in. I just didn't give a fuck. I

664
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 3: was the happiest night of my life. I got the

665
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 3: concert done, you know, this kind of stuff. I was

666
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 3: gonna let.

667
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: Somebody, you know, so you knew though, you knew in

668
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: the history that should hand with him, because when Drey

669
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: left Death Rope, there was some you know, oh yeah,

670
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: it was some shit behind it.

671
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 3: It wasn't no easy shit, you know well, And he

672
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 3: dropped the Aftermath album and then he dropped the Firm album.

673
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: So when I went on the air with the promotion,

674
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: I got a call from Jimmy Iaven saying, what are

675
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 3: you doing? Why do I have a two hundred and

676
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars bill on my desk for a producer

677
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 3: who does and produce out Who's label? I'm just about

678
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: to try to sell like he was ready to sell

679
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 3: the label and take it into receivership or something. I mean,

680
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: he was, He's like Anna rapper I haven't seen since

681
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: Death Row, you know what I mean, Like, what are

682
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 3: you doing? You're responsible for this? If this shit doesn't work,

683
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 3: and I'm like, fuck it, let's party. You're gonna get

684
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: a record.

685
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: And so you you was responsible for putting me in

686
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: and go do their record. Well.

687
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 3: I put them together for the show, and then when

688
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: they licked, when they clicked up, then the conversation started.

689
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 3: You know. DJ Jam was really a big instrumental person

690
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 3: in that as well. Like we I invited them both

691
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: to Powerhouse first and Snoop was performing, and I somehow

692
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 3: talked Dre into coming and I handed him a mic

693
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 3: and I had Jam ready and I you know, when

694
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 3: he when he first showed up, I switched the names

695
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: on the door so that he'd walk into snoops dressing

696
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 3: room think it was his. Yeah, and they bumped in.

697
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: Started that they wound up bumping each other man, And

698
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: I know that you changed the whole dynamic of how

699
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: the West Coast was getting down. I'm talking about not

700
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: just not just in LA radio, but what they was

701
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: doing up in the Bay because power was so big

702
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: at that time. And I remember going to one of

703
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: the That was the one good thing about that era, right,

704
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: just the concerts they used to have, right, And I

705
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: remember I got to go up there, man, because I

706
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: was running with Igh seeing them at the time. And

707
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: I remember gott to go up there, man, and seeing

708
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 1: Nate dogg just turn the whole summer jam out just new.

709
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 3: Or nothing but hooks.

710
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: It was the craziest it was. It was the craziest

711
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: shit ever. So what do you think the hardest aspect

712
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: of that job was, man, as far as you dealing

713
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: with so many personalities in LA. Was the gang shit

714
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: a big because you because you was pushing gangs the rep.

715
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 3: Oh yeah it was. I mean, you know, you can't

716
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: deal and to wrap without dealing with gangs. And there

717
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: was some pressure and things like that at times. But

718
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 3: I mean, everybody, you know, if you're just cool, just

719
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 3: explain it out people. You know, when you said like,

720
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: there ain't no normal motherfuckers around, right, like, we was

721
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 3: just normal motherfuckers. So if you came up and you

722
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: kicked it, you realize that we're just real. It's just

723
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: now radio has got this funny shit, you know, and

724
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: just people in general. After the COVID and the zoom

725
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: shit and all this kind of shit, nobody fucks with anybody,

726
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 3: so they don't communicate and the shit gets fucked up.

727
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: You know what you were saying earlier about Another thing

728
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 3: that I'd like to just say is the storytelling and

729
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: the songwriting fucking sucks these days, you know what I mean. Like,

730
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 3: it's like I would listen to some of the stuff,

731
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, what the fuck would I play? You

732
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: know what I mean? Because it's like, you got verses

733
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: that don't have nothing to do with the hooks. You

734
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 3: have hooks that have nothing to do with the verses.

735
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: You have two verses on some songs one verse. I

736
00:37:59,360 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 3: mean it.

737
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: You know what that is to me? Man?

738
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: Is that bad mentorship?

739
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? Bad mentorship? And nobody is actually being produced today. Yeah,

740
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 1: Because what happened is you get a dude to buy

741
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: a beat online and that beat may already have a

742
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: hook on it. They just think the hook soundfly. They

743
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: not gonna try to write around a hook or nothing

744
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: like that. They just go throw a verse. They gonna

745
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: email it and get they homie on there. They gonna

746
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: bug the shout of eight. See if they can get

747
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: a verse from him on there. And it's just like

748
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: there's no continuity to the records anymore.

749
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: I asked the new artists. And this will blow you away.

750
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: I asked the new artists the other day, has anyone

751
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: ever vocal produced you? And he said, what's vocal production?

752
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 3: M you know what I mean?

753
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: Like it don't sound you know what it is? Man?

754
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Today it's like this. See hey, you know how you

755
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: talk about nobody want to be the normal motherfucker. And

756
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: this is the biggest thing I saw, man, Cause you know,

757
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: I went after I stopped, you know, doing music, which

758
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: I never really did. I went, I gotta putublishing deal

759
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: and so I was working as a A and R. They

760
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: wound up behind me as A and R for the

761
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 1: publishing company. And the biggest thing I learned is that

762
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: people want to be famous. Right. I would meet a

763
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: lot of groups because you know, when you could give deals,

764
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a difference. It's a headache. Man. I would get

765
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: people coming to the office, right. And when I first

766
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: got the job, I would really entertain all that, you

767
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I thought, it's my job, right,

768
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: So I'm listening to everybody. I would meet somebody in

769
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: the manager, I'd be thinking, Damn, the manager should be

770
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: the rapper. He just got more of that, you know

771
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the swagger you meet the rapper. The

772
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: rappers sometimes sometimes horrible. Sometimes they got some good shit,

773
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: they got some bad shit. So what I started doing

774
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: is I started really telling motherfucker's the truth.

775
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 3: Dog.

776
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 1: It don't make you popular, but I wouldn't go waste

777
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: no more of my time. I'd tell him, man, this

778
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: ain't it, this ain't it. And it would be times

779
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: to where I did get some I would be mining

780
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: for gold and find some stuff. That's how I found

781
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: a kid from Dallas to did ice cream paint job,

782
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, And that wound up he and my first

783
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: platinum record, you know, because it was like I had

784
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: a dude that sends demos into some beats, right, and

785
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: he had this one kick. I forget that, I forget

786
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: that Doro. He was making some records with this kid

787
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: named Doro in his apartment down in Dallas, and so

788
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I flew him out of here, and

789
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: we wound up being able to do a deal, and

790
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: it wound up blowing up becoming one of the biggest

791
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: songs in the country, wound up becoming one of the

792
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: biggest things in the country. But I think there's definitely nowadays, Man.

793
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: It's some selfish motherfuckers. Now, I'm just saying that. I mean,

794
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 3: people just don't give people shots like that.

795
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I didn't know no better back

796
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: then that shit giving people's shots eventually want to have cast.

797
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 3: Me My damn job, I did that ship all day.

798
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying?

799
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 4: So music, I know you hold yeah that, but the

800
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 4: times was different, you get me. Uh, giving a giving

801
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 4: a motherfucker's shot back in on time was a motherfucker

802
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 4: who was really you know, going to a studio and

803
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: getting and getting molded and crafted and being able to

804
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 4: follow niggas like eight or Snoop or Dre or or

805
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: the forefathers before him.

806
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: You said the keyword craft.

807
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 4: I mean, today motherfuckers are just trendy. They want to

808
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 4: do whatever is trendy or whatever think whatever they feel

809
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 4: is gonna get them a lot of clicks or a

810
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 4: lot of streams. And you know, I can't go buy

811
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 4: me a hundred thousand dollars chain, and you know a

812
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 4: lot of niggas. You know, the subject matters became one sided.

813
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 3: Nigga.

814
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 4: I'm talking about hustling some money, popping some pills, and

815
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 4: fucking some bitches. And the younger generation got a hold

816
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: of that and it was like, Oh, we're finna run

817
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 4: with this shit. Fuck it good nigga money, my bentley,

818
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 4: my nigga, we pour or whatever we drinking, and your

819
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 4: bitch or your nigga, you get me. That's what rap became.

820
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: Like you said, there was no there's no substance.

821
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 3: You get me.

822
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 4: Motherfuckers might hate on a run DMC or or a

823
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: slick rick and shit, but you get songs. And that's

824
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: the difference today. I said, motherfuckers don't Yeah, you can rap, motherfucker,

825
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 4: but can you make a song?

826
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the biggest thing you said, though, eight,

827
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: is that you stayed in your own lane. That was

828
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: one of the things I respected about certain I got,

829
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: like a I got a certain group of artists that

830
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: I hold up there like it's the kind of like

831
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: the Pantheon. It's scarface, Yeah, it's MC eight, it's cool

832
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: g rap and it's kind of like a toss up

833
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: between the mother two. I got like probably like two

834
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: or three more? Is the dude from the roots? What's

835
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: my boy? Thought? Like, No, from the roots. I got

836
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,439
Speaker 1: crooked eye up there, you know, to esteem to certain

837
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: people that I don't want to hear commercial stuff from.

838
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: I just want to hear them do what they do.

839
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 3: You feel what I mean?

840
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: Do you think that in this era it seems like

841
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 1: guys like they can kind of flourish. Do you think

842
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: it's actually a need for radio nowadays?

843
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 3: I think radio is all fucked up. I think it

844
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: hasn't evolved, you know what I mean? Like so, I mean,

845
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: as it stands right now, it's the only media that

846
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: has not made the jump to the phone. There's no

847
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 3: app it's not you know, iHeart needs to be completely

848
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: I mean, the redundant costs in iHeart is what's killing iHeart.

849
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 3: I mean they spend what eight billion to make to

850
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 3: you know, some weird stuff like that. I mean, there's

851
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 3: there's ways to evolve it and it just hasn't been

852
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: done yet.

853
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you give me an eight just fucked off. Sorry, no,

854
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: it's all good man, But that's what we do.

855
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 3: We talk.

856
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: We don't do no sensorship. Sorry, no, tell the true

857
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: We don't sensor nothing, man, because but I just I've.

858
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: Always thought differently, you know what I mean. So I'm

859
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 3: not saying it's right or wrong, but you know, I mean,

860
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: I made gangster rap the pop, do you know what

861
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 3: I mean? I know what works and what doesn't.

862
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: Because because being from LA, right, me and Glass has

863
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: had this conversation all the time, Glasses, you know, on

864
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,919
Speaker 1: the West Coast, gang banging is a part of the coach.

865
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 3: It's just what it is, you know.

866
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: You know, when I first came out here, I found

867
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: out I had certain friends who's like uncles, mama, everybody

868
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: from the same neighborhood. They were always from the same

869
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: you know. They It's like a family tradition almost right.

870
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: And you would never know as you look at this

871
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: dude's mom like nights older lady, and she used to

872
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: be you know, she from the hood though, from the neighborhood.

873
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: And Glasses told me one day, it's almost impossible for

874
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: someone from LA to make it as a rapper that

875
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: don't belong to somewhere, And he said, that's why you

876
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 1: see so many people that that's not necessarily orientated, but

877
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 1: they've lagged one as somebody or somebody don't lag stone

878
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: them and now they kind of claiming that, but it's

879
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 1: almost on some almost on some acting shit.

880
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 3: Well, rap is a street based artist expression, thang. I

881
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 3: mean it's it's it comes from that. So if it's

882
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 3: not organic from that and people don't co sign it

883
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,439
Speaker 3: and say what he's saying is real and accurate, then

884
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't grow. And that's what where radio is fucked

885
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 3: up right now is all these programmers and everybody, they

886
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 3: don't have any connection to the street. They don't have

887
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 3: little homies, they don't have all of these things around

888
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 3: them to where where they can hear what's coming up.

889
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: You know, they're just figuring out right now, there's a

890
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: lefty gun play. Well eight months ago BAMS was listening

891
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,439
Speaker 3: to the Lefty gun Play and I could have told

892
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: you that shit was a hit.

893
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: Even what they're doing with the Chicano Brothers now right,

894
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: with the Mexican on it. Right, they want to have

895
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: a representation up there, but it's none of it is authentic.

896
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: Everything is so plastic and phony to where they almost

897
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: go get the Sacarin version of this. I'm gonna go

898
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: get the Sacraine version of that, and I think it's

899
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: a travesty dog outside a Big Boy, there are no

900
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: other black people in radio.

901
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 3: Now, ned Lae. Unless I'm missing something, well, I mean

902
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 3: that hadn't I questioned that a lot too, to be.

903
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: A place where the and like I said, not to

904
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 4: be discriminating against the Essays or the Asians or whoever

905
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 4: participates in this thing we call hip hop. But it

906
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: was a foundational it was it was a black foundation

907
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: for hip hop when it started here.

908
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: With KD.

909
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: Greg Like you said, Uncle Jam's Army. Uh, that was

910
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: the foundation of West Coat music. And it's it's crazy

911
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: that out of all these decades of great black hip

912
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 4: hop artists that we don't have but big Boy on

913
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 4: the radio representing, especially for a place like Kday.

914
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny about it, big Boy, big

915
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: Boy is the face, right, he's the face. He don't

916
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: really break no records, as crazy as that sound of

917
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: my correct.

918
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 3: Well, but the head of the iHeart out here is

919
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 3: doc and Docor is black.

920
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah I know that, but a lot of people don't

921
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: know that. What I'm told about, it's people that you

922
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: can actually see.

923
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 3: Oh okay, people, I don't know if you when the

924
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: artists have access to doctor now.

925
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: You know, people that you can actually see, you know,

926
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: the average person out here that ain't in the business.

927
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: I don't even know who the fuck doctor is. Shut

928
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: out to doc, you know what I mean exactly, but

929
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: they probably don't know who he is what I'm talking about, man.

930
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: And even for the because I can't speak for the

931
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: Mexican people, right, but even for them, there's so many

932
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: dope ass Mexican artists that don't get played because they're

933
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 1: giving them a saccharin version of it. I even think

934
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: that the ship that kool Aid had back in the

935
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: day was dope. The vocals pited local ship. That ship

936
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: was dope because it was authentic, it was real, right,

937
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: And to be real with you, I don't even know

938
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: why we got.

939
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: To have classifications and ship like that just put music

940
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: out there. I think.

941
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: I think once you start getting once you start classifying

942
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 1: ship as something, that's when you open up the room

943
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: for bullshit. How come? Because I'm pretty sure because I

944
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: got a lot of essay partner rappers like you do too,

945
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: eight right, I guarantee you if you hit mister kriminald

946
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Lefty gun Play that they want to be identified as

947
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: just a rapper.

948
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: Let me just be a rapper. Why they gotta be

949
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 3: a Mexican rapper and get you can't get me started

950
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: on a whole man, let's get stuff when I got

951
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: you set sunk? Am I being honest, my man?

952
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 4: But I think that I don't like I said, I

953
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 4: they you know, sometimes they want to be identified as

954
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: you know, like I don't know if just just saying

955
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 4: I'm a rapper, because just saying I'm a rapper like

956
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 4: that puts you in the category of all the other

957
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: sorry motherfuckers who ain't rapping good. That to me puts

958
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 4: you in a you know, like we representing or you get.

959
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 3: Me, and that's dope.

960
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing wrong with See, I'm not talking about the

961
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: cultural representation, right, I'm talking about just the whole thing. Right,

962
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: we just only go play y'all in this time slot

963
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 1: or doing this thing. I think it's dope. I remember

964
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: when Little Rob came with Summer Nights. Look, that was

965
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: a smash record across every motherfucking thing it is. I

966
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: didn't give a fuck who you was. You couldn't hate

967
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: on that record I brought.

968
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 3: I broke that.

969
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean. But but you feel what

970
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like let's just have it somehow, because

971
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: to me, I'm not talking about the cultural I think

972
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: you supposed to represent your culture with Ladousa, you know,

973
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: with all that shit.

974
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 3: But I eight hit it on the head. It was

975
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: when we started this thing or back then, it was

976
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: for the love of the music, and it was the craft,

977
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: and it was it wasn't the biggest thing in the world.

978
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: So all of these white executives and Wall Street and

979
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff, we're't in our mix. Now.

980
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 3: All these publicly traded companies own all the radio stations,

981
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: own all the record companies, the liquor company, Seagrams. When

982
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 3: they bought Universal was the beginning of the end of music.

983
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 3: People in music. It became corporate, you know what I'm saying.

984
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: So you know, now you've got all these white executives

985
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: running radio that have been living off what we did

986
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: twenty years ago, you know what I mean. And the

987
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,720
Speaker 3: gas tank is empty.

988
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: And that's what I mean right there. But you just

989
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: said it right there. You know, it's time. I don't

990
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: got nothing against Jimmy Steele hit, but it's time for

991
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: them to go. After a while. Man, change is always necessary.

992
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: Missing change is always necessary.

993
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: But does it happen though? What happened?

994
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 4: You have when you have somebody in that position, just

995
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 4: just like with everything you get me. Of course, change

996
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 4: should happen, and there should be more black NFL football coaches,

997
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 4: and there should be.

998
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, does it really

999
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: and it don't happen? Ates it ain't gonna be Jimmy Steele.

1000
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you the talent and I'm gonna

1001
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: tell you this right here, right I don't give a

1002
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: fuck if a motherfucker's black, green or whatever, as long

1003
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: as they from the culture, bro, as long as the

1004
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: motherfucker is at least from the culture that have enough

1005
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: common sense to say, Okay, I'm gonna play this little

1006
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: rod record, Okay, I'm gonna invite shug up to the

1007
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, just shit this common sense, because when.

1008
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: You're not from culture, you're not from the coach. You

1009
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 3: not go exercise and com center like shit.

1010
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 4: When back in my days when Kid Frost came out,

1011
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 4: I didn't go or nigga that's a Mexican rapper.

1012
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 3: I just went that nigga hard, That's what I'm saying.

1013
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 4: Cyprus, he came out exactly, I said, Man, that ship

1014
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,719
Speaker 4: is hard, you get so to me at all, it's

1015
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 4: to me, it's all about the music you put out,

1016
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 4: whether you black, whether you whatever. Shit you can be white.

1017
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: I mean shit, if you just put out some good, hard,

1018
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: decent ship, we don't categorize it as oh, that's a

1019
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 4: white motherfucker or that's a black motherfucker.

1020
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: Them niggas is niggas go nigga. That record hard is

1021
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,320
Speaker 3: a motherfucker. That's what I go. Now, shit is mediocre.

1022
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 3: It's just mediocre, Yeah it is. You can't do shit

1023
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 3: about that. But there is a double standard though, definitely

1024
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 3: there is a double standard. Trust me speak it well.

1025
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 3: I mean, because it's like, you know, the way that

1026
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 3: the game works sometimes is the people that end up

1027
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 3: that you end up helping and they get into these positions,

1028
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 3: they they'll turn around and hate on you, you know

1029
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 3: what I mean, like to try to like hold on

1030
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 3: to their little spot. But you're not a threat to them.

1031
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 3: You put them there. You don't want to destroy their brand.

1032
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: You want to help them. They're not doing well. It's like,

1033
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: let me help. You know, you're a threat to me

1034
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: because you're gonna bring someone new in because I was

1035
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: new and you put me on. Do you know what

1036
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, I'm trying to revitalize your brand, not

1037
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: fuck you up.

1038
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,400
Speaker 1: Recently, Power was just let go, let Philly fail, go

1039
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: right Philly. Phil has been around almost since the beginning. Yeah,

1040
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: did you bring Philly in? No, Jimmy brought him in.

1041
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: But I'm the one that hooked him, you know what

1042
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: I mean.

1043
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: He was coming from Texas and he had some second

1044
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 3: thoughts and Jimmy had me call him and.

1045
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: Philly, you know, and you look at stuff like that.

1046
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 1: Philly was a dude that was at their radio station

1047
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: for twenty years and the way they fired him was

1048
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: fucked up. Twenty years man, and you know, Philly.

1049
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 3: Didn't even let him finish the sh grab a box

1050
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 3: and we're gonna walk you out. Shit.

1051
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: You know. The thing with Phailly I Philly had a

1052
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: love you know, Philly helped people, kissed people off too.

1053
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna be able to make everybody have you

1054
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: but for the most day, yeah, But for the most part,

1055
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: Philly was a good dude. And if you brought him

1056
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: a record that he liked, he was gonna try to

1057
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: break it. He was gonna break it. Phay help break

1058
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: a couple of my records. But the thing you used

1059
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: to do with motherfucker like that dog that that's been

1060
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: around you so long, Like, hey, how would you feel

1061
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: if you showed up to this motherfucker one day, right

1062
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: and I didn't call you or nobody calls you to

1063
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 1: take you out to lunch and you just show up

1064
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: here and you just gone.

1065
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 3: They're like, that's it, the ride is over.

1066
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: You gotta treat motherfuckers better than that, though, Dog.

1067
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 4: You expect for motherfuckers to treat people better than that.

1068
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: But in this shrewd world of money and business and

1069
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 4: there's somebody above you, I mean, some motherfuckers just ain't

1070
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 4: gonna give you the motherfucking dignity tea you deserve. You

1071
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 4: get me, and this is Hollywood. Yeah, you know what

1072
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 4: I mean for that shit all day. Nigga's been doing

1073
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: shit for twenty thirty years and we still trying to

1074
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 4: get respect for motherfuckers to be considered. Like Nigga, I'm

1075
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 4: just like you don't that's all you want, a decency.

1076
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: You treat me with respect and don't lie to me.

1077
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: Because see, I'm not mad about the thing about him

1078
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: getting fired. That's just business.

1079
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: Right.

1080
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: But to me, especially if motherfucker, like if it's a

1081
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: dude that's been up there for six months, you don't

1082
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: know if he gonna cuts everybody out on an air

1083
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: or whatever like that. Somebody like Philly give him a

1084
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: chance to say bye.

1085
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 3: And he's a good guy. You know, he's not gonna

1086
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: do some bullshit. But you pull him off the air

1087
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 3: before the end of his shift and start. I mean, dude,

1088
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: it's obvious that Morello, god bless him, is being fooled

1089
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 3: by these people, you know what I mean, the consultants

1090
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: and all this kind of stuff, because how do you

1091
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: tank all of these stations still have a job.

1092
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: They're trying to keep thy check going, That's what I'm saying.

1093
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 3: They're trying to.

1094
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: Keep thy check going, you know. And I don't want

1095
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 1: to stay on color all night, man, because it's not important.

1096
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: When do you think they decided to where this is

1097
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: how we go roll with things in what contact like

1098
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, with these consultants that you talk about the

1099
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: after run the station, right, I've never known no business

1100
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 1: to offerate in that pretense to where if you not

1101
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: getting the numbers, everything's supposed to be based off analytics, right,

1102
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: if you're a rapper, you're not selling no records, they

1103
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: will tell you, hey man, it's right here and last

1104
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: two albums don't tank.

1105
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 3: Numbers don't like people do.

1106
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: Everything should be based off analytics. If you're holding your

1107
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: shit down, you keep your job, everybody happy. If you're

1108
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,720
Speaker 1: not holding it down, you gotta go. It ain't nothing personal,

1109
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: it's just what it is, right, It's.

1110
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: Just what it is. So and you go down for

1111
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: twenty years and everybody is really I mean, they don't

1112
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: have a program director. Everybody has has refused the job.

1113
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 3: Why because they don't want to work for those with

1114
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: those three motherfuckers that are in charge. You know what

1115
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 3: I mean, like to you have somebody over there, I

1116
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: mean the owner of the station, but they, I mean

1117
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 3: obviously haven't got the picture that there's something rotten and

1118
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 3: you know, your trash can and starting to smell.

1119
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you had a lot of motherfuckers hating

1120
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: on YouTube all they still doing. You had a whole

1121
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: bunch of and you came out. Yeah you know what

1122
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: I remember, I didn't know you did to save Seiche

1123
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: record at first, and that.

1124
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 3: Was which record got fucked up about. That is shade

1125
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 3: Schist was signed to MS Broadcasting and the first million

1126
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: dollar check was not to fifty cent. It was too

1127
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 3: MS Broadcasting for Shade Shist.

1128
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh so Shade was actually signed to the radio.

1129
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 3: Stat was signed to the radio station. It was my

1130
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 3: job to do it.

1131
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you see you open up. We're breaking news

1132
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: on here. Now you remember that record eight?

1133
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that, but it was EMIS's artist.

1134
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: Okay.

1135
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: So so when it all hell broke loose, they threw

1136
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 3: it on me. They were supposed to play the records,

1137
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: but I went through FCC. That's why I never got busted,

1138
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 3: because I went through FCC attorneys and knew corporate was

1139
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: gonna fuck me at some point.

1140
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, how do a motherfucker get

1141
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 1: signed to the radio sh ain't it?

1142
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 3: Well?

1143
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 2: What happened?

1144
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of a long story, but I mean,

1145
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: Shade was a friend of mine and I played a

1146
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 3: demo of it. They said, because of the ratings and

1147
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff, and they saw me producing

1148
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: records from Riot Carey and all these other people. They said,

1149
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 3: we want some of that money, so produce some records

1150
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: for us and we'll play the records. We'll give you

1151
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: a salary. I got a million dollar deal out of

1152
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 3: the gate for them, and they didn't play the record.

1153
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 3: Power played the records, but not their other stations. You

1154
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 3: think that was because they was hating Oh hell yes.

1155
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 3: And then she said to those stations to fix them

1156
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: when they fucked up.

1157
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: So you had to go down there and tell them

1158
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:16,959
Speaker 1: because that was a big ass record.

1159
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 3: They sent me to Hot ninety seven to fix Hot

1160
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 3: ninety seven when Little Kim shot it up. And then

1161
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: they had the game thing. They had jay Z going

1162
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 3: to Power one on five and the Breakfast Club and

1163
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff. Who you think they sent

1164
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: to New York.

1165
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: You had to go out there and hold it down.

1166
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: I had to go pull jay Z off the competition.

1167
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 3: I had to go clean up the Atlantic Low Kim mess,

1168
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: you know, and do all of that. I mean, because

1169
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 3: people didn't look it's the same thing now that it

1170
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 3: was then. They didn't know the people to have the

1171
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: conversation to squash the ship.

1172
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a relationship with everybody. And how did

1173
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: you start producing from Ariah here?

1174
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 3: She came into the station one night and we just

1175
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 3: hit it off, and she she just asked, what else

1176
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: I do? I said, oh, I've been making beats. She said,

1177
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 3: let me hear something. And then she heard that Willie

1178
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 3: Wonker ship and said, oh, that can be the remix

1179
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 3: for I still believe. And that's how that started.

1180
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: That's how that started. And you had actually pretty good

1181
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: friendship with her too.

1182
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were cool, said we were cool. It was cool.

1183
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: Give me that smile, was cool. Miss You smiled like

1184
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: you hit that or something. My friend, you smiled like

1185
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: you tapped that as.

1186
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:28,320
Speaker 3: She was. She was a wonderful person.

1187
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 1: He's a wonderful person, though she's a bad motherfucker. Nick Cannon,

1188
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: never get any people you over. I have nothing against

1189
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: neck Next. I'm glad they had a good run. They

1190
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: had a good man. You produced on some big ass records, man,

1191
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: and you was fucking with everybody at that time many,

1192
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: I mean everybody. So with the shade shy ship, man,

1193
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: that's a trip. You never found out the truth about

1194
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: shipped later on was every boy and their mama swarping

1195
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,919
Speaker 1: down that that was you, the de of that deal.

1196
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 3: You know what what's fucked up is I get blamed

1197
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: for a lot of shit and people take the credit

1198
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 3: for a lot of shit that I did. You know,

1199
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 3: what I mean, I just never felt like, you know,

1200
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 3: I just stay quiet, you know, like like with you,

1201
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 3: you never addressed beef. No, you know what I'm saying,

1202
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 3: Like throughout your career you have been a gentleman about

1203
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 3: that shit, like you just try to stay out the fray, I.

1204
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 4: Mean, because motherfucker's gonna have their opinions. And you know,

1205
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 4: my my beef thing went as far as it did

1206
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 4: over really just neighborhood gang shit.

1207
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 3: And then once I was able to you know, I

1208
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: ain't like on that page.

1209
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 4: No, you know, I ain't riding around in the hood

1210
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: with the strap, you know, with the rag down my pocket.

1211
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 4: You know, I'm fucking out and went from that to

1212
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 4: a different level. So once that happened, like I'm beef

1213
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: with niggas.

1214
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: Beef for what like, Yeah, it shouldn't be especially assually

1215
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: in some rap shit, beef with no rap nigga.

1216
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 3: You hit me.

1217
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: Especially at this time, And you know what, mss, It's

1218
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: almost like you was just born to do radio. You've

1219
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: been working in the radio since I was twelve years old. Yeah,

1220
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: how to fuck do a twelve year old kid get

1221
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: a job?

1222
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: He carefully?

1223
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 4: Shit, I was a I was a fourteen, fifteen year

1224
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 4: old kid hanging around. You know, got introduced to a

1225
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 4: nigga who was a beat maker and the DJ at clubs, and.

1226
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 3: He took me and Chill under his wing.

1227
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 4: Nigga, and we was we was young niggas going to

1228
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 4: club I mean we wasn't we was starting on a

1229
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 4: rap career.

1230
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: I was mentorship.

1231
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 4: But exactly, Nigga. We go to the clubs, nigga, and

1232
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 4: we was too young to get in. But shit, nigga,

1233
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 4: we still be hiding out behind the DJs because we

1234
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 4: get there early, unload the trucks with the crates and

1235
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 4: all the records, and so by time the club get

1236
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 4: to going, nigga, we already in.

1237
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 1: That. That was the same you know, check this out though,

1238
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: but the same producer that you took you under his

1239
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: wing as a little here you use.

1240
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: The remainder of your career pretty much. Oh yeah, Slip did.

1241
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 4: Slipp did ninety percent of my my production throughout my

1242
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 4: mc ACMDUB career.

1243
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 3: That's yeah, that's just that's just like intorship, loyalty, keep going. Slip.

1244
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 3: Slip was Slip was a nigga who was he was

1245
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: you yit me? He was there.

1246
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 4: He was known La Sound Control Mob. He knew Lonzo Unknown.

1247
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 4: His pops had a business where they supplied all the

1248
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 4: speakers for all the concerts at World on wheels or

1249
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 4: the Convention Center and shit. So when I got introduced

1250
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 4: to Slip, he was already in the world of hip hop.

1251
01:03:57,680 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 3: You know. He was a producer.

1252
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: He had done a lot of techno records, so, and

1253
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 4: he was a DJ, and he was looking at JO

1254
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 4: clubs like Water to Bush, Paradise, all that type of ship.

1255
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 4: I got to hang out a ship like that as

1256
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: a young kid, and.

1257
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: They got coached the fuck up. That's what they signed was.

1258
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 4: Published trying to you, trying to trans trying to transition

1259
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: from because nigga I was still in the hood, you know.

1260
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: That.

1261
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 4: That is what made me go, oh, instead of catching

1262
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 4: the bus to the hood today, I catch the bus

1263
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 4: over here to Guardena and go chill with the niggas.

1264
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 4: They had a fox track in the studio and nothing

1265
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: but a gang of speakers and DJ equipment.

1266
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 3: To me, I was fascinated by that ship. It didn't

1267
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: it didn't mean ship.

1268
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 4: When we was up at three o'clock in the morning

1269
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 4: wrapping up cords and ship and then we stop at

1270
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 4: Tommy Berger's Downtown LA and slipped by everybody Burgers and

1271
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 4: ship to the nigga. That shit was everything. And I

1272
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: was a young kid, didn't want to go to school,

1273
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 4: none of that shit. Same shit, miss it. You know

1274
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 4: some of this business be talking. That's a movie I

1275
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 4: want to do dog sure, I want to do that.

1276
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 4: I want to do the Cem dub story. And I really,

1277
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 4: I'm really on my one of my missions for twenty

1278
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 4: twenty four back. I shared something with y'all and it

1279
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 4: just kind of just hit me again. Last week. You know,

1280
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 4: I was in the hospital. Last week I talked to you.

1281
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 4: We supposed to do this interview last week. We supposed

1282
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:30,120
Speaker 4: to start the season up. Last week I couldn't even

1283
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 4: physically call ating them and tell him I wasn't coming.

1284
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 1: I was so bad. I had to you know, shoot

1285
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: a text start and say, man, like I can't. I

1286
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 1: can't do it. You know, I'm in the hospital. But

1287
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: it made me realize we need to take control of

1288
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: our own stories, man, and we need to tell our

1289
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: own stories so people not written out of history, because

1290
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 1: a story should be written from a factual standpoint, like

1291
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: when they wrote like if somebody ever writes a story

1292
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 1: about the gangst the chronicles, I want every part of

1293
01:05:57,080 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: it too, the good, the bad, you know, like everything.

1294
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 3: Well part of part of the reason. Or how I

1295
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 3: was I've I've just can't come back on social media,

1296
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 3: and you know, over the last couple of weeks, you know,

1297
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 3: I've hit about a million people. And how I did

1298
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 3: it was I was watching the what's that Doctor Dre

1299
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 3: movie with Jimmy Iveen, the whatever I forgot the name

1300
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: of it, but whatever it is, and they were telling

1301
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 3: the story, Oh yeah, the Defiant One, the Defiant Ones,

1302
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh shit, that's how that happened. And

1303
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 3: I'm like, well they should missing a lot of ship,

1304
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

1305
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 1: People have a tendency to rewrite history.

1306
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:42,959
Speaker 3: And rewriting the narrative. And what keeps us, what keeps

1307
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 3: rap legendary, has always been the narrative. You know what

1308
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: I'm saying, It's a story, you know what I mean,

1309
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 3: what you're saying about the beginning, middle and in well,

1310
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 3: they what they do is cut out everybody else and

1311
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 3: say we did this ourselves so that they can keep

1312
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 3: the narrative on themselves. They're not gonna tell you that

1313
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 3: Jimmy called me and said, hey, you know what I mean.

1314
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: Don't do this.

1315
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? But what would have happened

1316
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 3: to Dre's career if I would have taken that call?

1317
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 3: Is that? Where would Dre and Snoopy right now? Ain't

1318
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 3: how much made so much money off of that? How

1319
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 3: many jobs did that create?

1320
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: Exactly? Now? You think about doctor Dre right, how many

1321
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: artists he don't work with? That he just don't work

1322
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: with no more? And they wherever they yet, I don't

1323
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: know their personal relationships or whatever like that, but they

1324
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: could have stayed not talking to each other.

1325
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: And that was the thing he said when I first

1326
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 3: went to him and said, would you work with Snoop again? Well,

1327
01:07:36,760 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: I just haven't talked to him in a long time,

1328
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 3: but I put that motherfucker back on him. And then

1329
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: Snoop said the exact same thing about Dre. So I

1330
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 3: just put him in the room together. Because it always

1331
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,600
Speaker 3: comes down to some ego shit, this Hollywood bullshit of

1332
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 3: oh I love you, I love you, but I won't

1333
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 3: return your call because I don't want to have it.

1334
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 3: It's that bullshit because they're guilty. They feel guilt because

1335
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 3: you did so much shit for them. They don't know

1336
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 3: how to say thank you, but they're being assholes. So

1337
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 3: what do I say? Sorry? Do I say I love you?

1338
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, and it turns into

1339
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 3: some bullshit and it's just like, get over it, you

1340
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Like, I'm not here for that ship.

1341
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 3: Let's work, Let's get some shit done. Hip hop fucked

1342
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: up for really.

1343
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 4: A lot of that, A lot of that goes back

1344
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: to again, Uh, the egos of the walks of life

1345
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 4: that you walk came from you know, niggas feeling like,

1346
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 4: you know, I got to represent a certain a certain

1347
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 4: gangsterism or hardness too as something that's simple with Yeah,

1348
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 4: tell a nigga to call.

1349
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 3: Me, you get me. It's a lot of how he's

1350
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 3: doing let me get Really, it'd be just the ego of.

1351
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,440
Speaker 4: Really our downfall was really because of something else outside

1352
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 4: of it was nothing really personal. So well, you know,

1353
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 4: we all make mistakes, we all say stupid shit, we

1354
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 4: all do dumb things sometimes, but you know, it is

1355
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 4: what it is.

1356
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 3: Get over it, you know what I mean? Like, I

1357
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 3: know I have ship.

1358
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this. I have a question.

1359
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:24,759
Speaker 1: Man from the audience. You and Nocturnal, y'all had an affair.

1360
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: You was taking care of Nocturnal.

1361
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 3: Nocturnal is a good friend of mine to this day.

1362
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 1: That's scared. At the beginning of the West Side Connection,

1363
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 1: that was a joke, wasn't it.

1364
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 3: Yes, I was the fucking producer. I could have muted it.

1365
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 3: You can't smoke none of my weed, drink dumb on

1366
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 3: on my hand fucked him, is it? I was a producer.

1367
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,920
Speaker 3: I could have mute. I thought it was funny. He

1368
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: said take it out. We were actually testing the mic.

1369
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 3: That was a first take, and I just kept it.

1370
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I forgot about that record means

1371
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: you got some production critics like a motherfucker, And.

1372
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you all, no, definitely.

1373
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 1: Them placements didn't have nothing to do with him his

1374
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: position up at Paul either, because I think at that

1375
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: point she was going already with you.

1376
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it was around, there was, it was before,

1377
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,560
Speaker 3: during and after. You know, I was always doing that.

1378
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 3: But you know, but when I when I was doing

1379
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: radio that, you know, they said I couldn't do production,

1380
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I even put out cruising

1381
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 3: and I wrapped on it. You know what I mean, Like, God,

1382
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 3: they hated that one, you know what I mean, But

1383
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: it's like, who gives a fuck? This is hip hop?

1384
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: Yeah you should happen.

1385
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 4: Why was the masses upset that you were producing records

1386
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 4: because they were getting played play your position Like I

1387
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 4: don't I don't understand that, just like okay, I'm I'm

1388
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 4: the program director or whatever, but.

1389
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,640
Speaker 3: That's not fair. You have to produce. I produced, Like

1390
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 3: I don't understand.

1391
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 4: Yeah anything, that's just like you know, that's just like,

1392
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 4: you know, we got the show, and then I turned

1393
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 4: around and go, shit, I'm gonna go do me a show.

1394
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 4: And the next thing you know, I started getting calls

1395
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: from from you know, other motherfucker like, oh, you can't

1396
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 4: do your own show?

1397
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: Like what do you mean?

1398
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: Shit? I would love who's the one to be telling

1399
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: you that you need to be doing the show.

1400
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying, Like when you stop

1401
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,720
Speaker 3: doing for them and you do for yourself, then they say,

1402
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 3: wait a minute, that's my spot. Okay.

1403
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 4: So they wanted the records or they wanted those they

1404
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:27,600
Speaker 4: wanted those records.

1405
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 3: Yes, like you see y'all so well I can look

1406
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 3: at this. I could see there.

1407
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 4: I could see their sabotaging ways with you know, we

1408
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 4: got a program director who's going out here producing all

1409
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 4: these records for Shade, Schie and Mariah.

1410
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: And so and so, and they're not are records, and

1411
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 3: you didn't clear them through us. Why would I have

1412
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 3: to control I'm the one to put them on I'm

1413
01:11:56,040 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: not I'm I'm a program director here. I'm not signed

1414
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 3: to you as an artist or producer. So but I

1415
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 3: could see the workings of that.

1416
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:13,200
Speaker 4: You give me jealous motherfuckers and haters are gonna hate because, Okay,

1417
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 4: this nigga working for us as a radio programmer, but

1418
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 4: he's got hit records out here on the other late

1419
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 4: and to them, they feeling like, well, we want to

1420
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 4: get into that game, So why aren't you bringing those

1421
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 4: records here?

1422
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 3: And you can still bring them a million dollar check?

1423
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,640
Speaker 3: And they're still gonna hate on.

1424
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: You and trust and believing what I know about artists,

1425
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 1: ain't no artists out there. I don't give a fuck

1426
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: who you is. Ain't no artists, not no major artists.

1427
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody go fuck up their reputation. They project their career,

1428
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: always just saying well, I'm gonna get a radio dude

1429
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: a beat and you know, get a beat for the

1430
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: radio due to Hopeully play it because theyn't believe me.

1431
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,600
Speaker 1: Mariah Carey, you need Joel for lifting at that time, No,

1432
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 1: and you don't bet.

1433
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 3: That's what was so great about Power one on six

1434
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 3: and all of the power that we have was we

1435
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 3: were kind of an r in the records too, Like

1436
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 3: I put jay Z and Mariah Carey together, which helped

1437
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 3: jay Z get into uh, you know, the Philippines and

1438
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 3: other markets. And I introduced him to eminem and I

1439
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 3: gave him The Watcher part two. I think I pretty

1440
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 3: much introduced him to Dre like you know what I

1441
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 3: mean at the powerhouses, you know what I mean, Like I.

1442
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: Don't know you for a long time, Malcolm. You never

1443
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: told me no this shit. You just humble motherfucker.

1444
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 3: A lot of people. It's my job. I never looked

1445
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 3: at it. It's anything fucking special.

1446
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 4: And then I don't want my helpens to think that

1447
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 4: I'm trying to use that as a as a status

1448
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 4: or stepping stone. A lot of shit just be kept

1449
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 4: quiet because people look at shit differently. You know, I

1450
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 4: gotta gotta keep shit quiet sometimes because like you said once,

1451
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,440
Speaker 4: motherfuckers find out, some motherfuckers turned envious.

1452
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:02,640
Speaker 1: And you motherfucker miss it. Let me ask, because you

1453
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 1: never a motherfucker.

1454
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 4: You're all motherfucker gonna call you a liar, Yeah right, nigga,

1455
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 4: yeah right, yeah right, you did.

1456
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: Sure you did, Sure you introduced so and so or whatever.

1457
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,240
Speaker 1: You know, by you being a single man, man and

1458
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: you being around all of these fine as artists, man,

1459
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: these females. Man, how much pussy did you get? How

1460
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: much superstar pussy did you get back? How much I

1461
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: still get? You know, when doctor Dre said I'm not

1462
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: done spending n w a money, apply it man, it's

1463
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: just ain't it ain't too much. It ain't too much

1464
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: that can excite you.

1465
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 3: Then, you know, when you've seen it all and done

1466
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 3: it all, it's just kind of like you kind of

1467
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 3: just and you know the amount of bullshit that I

1468
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 3: had to deal with and I still deal with it's

1469
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:55,040
Speaker 3: like you know, like you know, yeah, keep it.

1470
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: Is.

1471
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: They're always after something. There's nobody that's just your you

1472
01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, people that say, oh, I'm your friend,

1473
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,959
Speaker 3: I love you. Da da da da dah. Yeah, motherfucker,

1474
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 3: you ain't call me in you know, what I mean,

1475
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 3: like where my grammar died. It was like, yeah, you know,

1476
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: we'll post all this stuff on Instagram, but I won't

1477
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: call you, you know what I mean, Like the real

1478
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,519
Speaker 3: ones picked up the phone and callon. This is a

1479
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,360
Speaker 3: This is a treacherous game. And if you if you

1480
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 3: have been able to withstand.

1481
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 4: A lot of the potholes in the road on your journey,

1482
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 4: once you get to a part of the road where

1483
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 4: for you it's smooth, I'm I'm cool. I don't want

1484
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 4: to pick up no hit hikers. I don't want to

1485
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 4: stop and look at now, no new cars. I don't

1486
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,960
Speaker 4: want to Oh man, I could do this, so no,

1487
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 4: my ship running fine, it's smooth selling and I don't

1488
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:52,560
Speaker 4: want no detours.

1489
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 3: You get me. I don't need to try to take

1490
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 3: the high road to get there faster. You give me.

1491
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 4: At this point, I'm the on crew controlling. I can

1492
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 4: just sit back because Nigga dons seen so much bullshit

1493
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 4: and had to dodge so many curves and obstacles, and

1494
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 4: then you know, motherfuckers say they gonna you know what

1495
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying, And the next thing you know, you stop

1496
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 4: at a Nigga gas station for some repairs and nigga,

1497
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 4: don took your rims off, you pull off your ship

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Speaker 4: and just making a noise right now and backfiring and shit.

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 4: So nigga once when you take that long journey and

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01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 4: you get to a point to where a nigga right now, nigga,

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01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 4: I'm cruising.

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01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 1: Well. You know, the biggest thing I do on Experienced

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01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:41,240
Speaker 1: eight is you could be everybody's best friend. I'm gonna

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01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: tell you a powerful word the first time you say

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01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: as long as you saying oh, yeah, I could do it,

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01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: no matter how much it is hurting you, no matter

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01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 1: if people don't give a fuck about this, the rest

1508
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: it may be putting you under.

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01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 3: As long as you keep saying yeah to him.

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: The moment you say no, you ain't shit, that's when

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01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: you find out how you I didn't really feel about you, you.

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01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Your question and still you saw it.

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01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 3: How many people did I make rich? Made a whole

1514
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 3: bunch of motherfuckers very wealthy. I haven't heard from nobody

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:13,280
Speaker 3: since I left Power one six. Not one person nobody

1516
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 3: let me except for except for joh Rule and Nerve Gotty.

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01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 3: That the people from my own coast don't even give

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01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 3: me the credit, but IRV Goody and jo Rule every

1519
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 3: time I drink Champs anything like that, they mentioned me

1520
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 3: thank you for doing what you did.

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01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man, that nutty. That's real crazy.

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01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 3: That's what you're saying is there'll be your friend when

1523
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 3: you can do something. They're not your friend when they

1524
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:37,599
Speaker 3: do whatever.

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01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 4: And then to be motherfucker's writing your own backyard who

1526
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:42,679
Speaker 4: it's always the closest.

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01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:45,560
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

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01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 1: Miss you got into the radio game. You were twelve

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01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: years old, right as a twelve year old kid from

1530
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 1: Oxen Art. Did you ever a Santa Barbara as a

1531
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 1: twelve year old five as a twelve year old kid

1532
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: from Santa Barbara, did you ever a imagine that you

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01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,800
Speaker 1: would have the career that you do, all the stuff

1534
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: that you've done.

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01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, dude. When I saw that I was

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01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 3: number four and the Source Power thirty, I shipped myself

1537
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 3: like I was like, there's no way this is me,

1538
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 3: Like this is Source magazine, Like there's no way. When

1539
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 3: I read the review of Nate Dogg's music in Me,

1540
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,679
Speaker 3: the title track, I was just like there's no way,

1541
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 3: Like there's just who are you? Right? Now and you did.

1542
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 3: You're living in your dream.

1543
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 1: You know it's you did it, So you look go back.

1544
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 3: That trip me off.

1545
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: So you and eat Man don't talk all the time, No,

1546
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:39,600
Speaker 1: with all, just with.

1547
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 3: All trying to talk about the number one hater on

1548
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 3: the planet is the man Man for those who don't know,

1549
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: you've been saying ship for years, but God bless him.

1550
01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Man is the it was he the associopedi. He's

1551
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 1: the director of power. Yeah.

1552
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:57,920
Speaker 3: Whatever, do you ever think we will see you back

1553
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 3: on power or radio? Not with the people that are running.

1554
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: And now what would it take for you to come back?

1555
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 3: Either buy that motherfucker got it? If I tell you this,

1556
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 3: I'll make that motherfucker number one faster than you could

1557
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 3: shake a stick at it.

1558
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. With us, you know, were about to

1559
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:17,320
Speaker 1: shut this down, but may gouts some other stuff to

1560
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 1: talk to you about.

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01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 3: Man.

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: We appreciate you guys tuning in with us this evening. Well,

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01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: that concludes another episode of the Gainst the Chronicles podcast.

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01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,479
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01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,519
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Speaker 1: the show, leave a comment and rating. Executive producers for

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01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles podcasts of Norman Steel Aaron m c

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01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: a Tyler. Our visual media director is Brian Wyatt, and

1570
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,200
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01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,719
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