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Speaker 1: little different for you. Over the past season, I've had

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Speaker 1: the privilege of interviewing some incredible pro female golfers, women

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Speaker 2: Crushed it in their careers.

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Speaker 1: They've shared their insights on everything from the future of

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Speaker 1: we're taking a trip down memory lane, revisiting a bit

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Speaker 1: from each of those conversations. We're gonna kick things off

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Speaker 1: with the youngest of the bunch, Christine Wang and Amari Avery,

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Speaker 1: whom I spoke with earlier this year. Best friends and

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Speaker 1: former teammates at USC, they're now in the early stages

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Speaker 1: of their professional careers, competing on the episode tour and

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Speaker 1: sharing their journeys on social media. You guys have played

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Speaker 1: in quite a few events already, and you both just

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Speaker 1: from professional last year. You have you have status on EPSOM. Christine,

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Speaker 1: how has it.

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Speaker 3: Been very different than what I expected?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 3: That is for sure.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of golf.

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Speaker 3: I know that sounds silly, but before, like when we

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Speaker 3: played as a junior or in college, we would go

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Speaker 3: because we played thirty six holes the first day, right,

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Speaker 3: But now we get to the golf course on like Monday,

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Speaker 3: and then like I'm still like it's still this tournament.

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Speaker 3: I'm still hitting the same course. Like, so, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: you know, travel, everything was already taken care of, even

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Was there much of a learning curve.

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Speaker 2: You'd say hundred percent?

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Speaker 5: Like I think, you know, leading up to leaving school

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Speaker 5: know it's going to be hard, but then you get

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Speaker 5: this is not what I was thinking. Like I knew

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Speaker 3: Golf is almost like the easiest part because golf is

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Speaker 3: still golf. Good golf is still good golf. A birdie

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Speaker 3: traveling is what got really rough. Rights Well up to you.

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Speaker 1: It's a very individual sport and in this case right,

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Speaker 1: so I'd love to hear for the both of you,

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Speaker 1: how are you both supporting yourselves in your professional journey?

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Speaker 3: Well, for me, I have A'm very fortunate from like

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Speaker 3: I like Feathery, they are like my clothing sponsors. They

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Speaker 3: It's it's tough. Like I feel like there's so many

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Speaker 5: So I'm very lucky to have the chance to and

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Speaker 5: It's definitely family and sponsors. Yeah, I Like I said,

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Speaker 5: I'm very fortunate to be with a brand like Nike.

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Speaker 5: They're a big supporter of mine, and also with Lexus

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Speaker 2: The reason why I'm playing golf.

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Speaker 5: I'm playing professional golf, So love them. I think they're

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Speaker 3: I think it's like I see a lot of I mean,

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Speaker 4: Like your office.

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Speaker 1: So have either of you had any pinch me moment

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Speaker 2: Then have that for you, Mark. I honestly, I haven't

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Speaker 1: And I was like, yes, my next guest, and I

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Speaker 6: The second year was much better because a lot of

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Speaker 1: You know. Women's golf has actually gone through a lot

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Speaker 1: of positive change in my opinion, from the professional golf

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Speaker 2: We didn't get to see each other unless.

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Speaker 1: We played well. Literally our win was seeing one another

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Speaker 6: want to see a little bit of that fun in

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Speaker 6: Yes, I would love to see some of that life

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Speaker 7: Honestly, I'm thinking any way to help make the travel

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Speaker 1: So one thing that I do love about, like everything

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Speaker 4: Going back to her episode.

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Speaker 1: Her story about her beautiful daughter Grace is truly moving.

466
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Speaker 1: On the course, Jane made her mark early, rising to

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Speaker 1: national prominence in the early two thousands with an incredible

468
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Speaker 1: amateur career before spending fifteen remarkable years on the LPGA Tour.

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Speaker 1: Her journey is as inspiring off the course as it

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Speaker 1: was on it. So you've been playing golf for a

471
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Speaker 1: very long time. We have to hear the golf origin story.

472
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Speaker 1: How'd you get into it? You inspired you so?

473
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Speaker 8: Tiger Woods obviously absolutely. I went to the driving range

474
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Speaker 8: when I was ten. My older brother was playing and

475
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Speaker 8: my dad was kind of his coach, and I was

476
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Speaker 8: not interested whatsoever in this game. And then, you know, finally,

477
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Speaker 8: when I turned eleven or something, I kind of got

478
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Speaker 8: bored make like flower crowns and rolling down the hill

479
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 8: like grassy knolls, like while they're you know, grinding away

480
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Speaker 8: hitting golf balls. I asked my dad, Hey, like can

481
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Speaker 8: I just try? And He's like, yeah, sure, whatever. He

482
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Speaker 8: kind of set up a golf ball those rubber tees. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 8: and apparently, according to him, I had a four iron,

484
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Speaker 8: like straight down the range, Like.

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Speaker 2: You said, a four iron four iron? Who picks up

486
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Speaker 2: a four irons? By the way, the hard that was.

487
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Speaker 1: My dad's ball.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, well yeah, I would have not picked

489
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Speaker 8: a four arm, but yeah, he said, apparently I hit

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Speaker 8: that shot straight down the range. And he turned his

491
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Speaker 8: attention from my brother to me. Yeah, and uh, you know,

492
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Speaker 8: he kind of gave me the whole talk, like you

493
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Speaker 8: can maybe get a college scholarship, maybe it could be

494
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Speaker 8: on the LPGA. You know. That was that was when

495
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Speaker 8: I was eleven, and when I turned twelve, for some reason,

496
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Speaker 8: something clicked and I had this my sight set on

497
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Speaker 8: first going to UCLA and then making it to the LPGA.

498
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Speaker 8: You know, lots of practice, just days and hours and

499
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Speaker 8: hours and weeks and months out on the golf course,

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Speaker 8: and you know, I found myself getting a scholarship to UCLA,

501
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Speaker 8: although I only stayed for one year, I'm sorry, Coach Kerrie.

502
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Speaker 8: And then ultimately I reached my goal of playing on

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Speaker 8: the LPGA, and I played for fifteen years and that's

504
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Speaker 8: a pretty long career if you compare it to the

505
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Speaker 8: average career on the LPGA.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: And so what would you say has been your favorite

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Speaker 1: memory highlight of those years?

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Speaker 8: Favorite memory? I will say my best memories golf wise

511
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Speaker 8: comes from the grand door of playing major championship golf.

512
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Speaker 8: There's just and I know it's just a it's a

513
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Speaker 8: very small little world that we play in, but when

514
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Speaker 8: we're in it, it's literally our entire world, you know,

515
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Speaker 8: playing to be a part of history, to experience what

516
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Speaker 8: it's like to have the jitters and feeling your heart

517
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Speaker 8: race and your throat. And I would say, I guess

518
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Speaker 8: one single highlight was finishing. I think it was like

519
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Speaker 8: tied for third or tied for fifth or something in

520
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Speaker 8: the twenty fifteen US Woman's Open in Lancaster. And just

521
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Speaker 8: that entire week was very surreal because from the start

522
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Speaker 8: of the week I just had signs of butterflies. And

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Speaker 8: I know it sounds lame, but when my grandmother passed away,

524
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Speaker 8: I kind of likened her visiting me to seeing butterflies.

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Speaker 8: And on Monday on the range, I saw this butterfly

526
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Speaker 8: kind of chill on a pile of range balls, and

527
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Speaker 8: it stayed there for twenty minutes. And you know that's

528
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Speaker 8: very unusual. H Then you know, thirty minutes later, I'm

529
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Speaker 8: on the putting green, my caddie walks over and he's like,

530
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Speaker 8: there's a butterfly in your golf bag and it won't leave.

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Speaker 8: And then I don't know. I know it sounds dumb,

532
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Speaker 8: but I have this like feeling of calm kind of

533
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Speaker 8: wash over me, and the whole week was a blur.

534
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Speaker 8: It was like it was kind of a blur, but

535
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Speaker 8: also like I was playing a video game, like if

536
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Speaker 8: I see a target, I'm going to hit it there. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and I'm going to make Bertie Parr. I'd say that's

538
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Speaker 8: probably one of my favorite memories. And plus it's an

539
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Speaker 8: awesome golf course.

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Speaker 1: I mean, to just perform well at a major in

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Speaker 1: front of like all your loved ones, and I'm a

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Speaker 1: firm believer in science. I don't think it's crazy. Okay,

543
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Speaker 1: So what would you say you miss most about being

544
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Speaker 1: on tour?

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Speaker 8: Honestly, I just miss the people. And I know that

546
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Speaker 8: sounds so cliche, but I always tell people it's like

547
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Speaker 8: a big traveling circus. We're all kind of on the

548
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Speaker 8: same flights, kind of in the same area. You see

549
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Speaker 8: people at the grocery store, restaurants or whatever. And I

550
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Speaker 8: know we're all trying to beat each other in the game,

551
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Speaker 8: right but at the end of the day, I will

552
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Speaker 8: give my shirt off my back for you and you

553
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Speaker 8: would do the same for me because we all have

554
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Speaker 8: this common goal. But also, you know, we're all humans people,

555
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Speaker 8: So I miss the people. Yeah, yeah, And I know

556
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Speaker 8: that people miss you, Oh yeah. I mean You've always

557
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 8: been such a light on the tour, and anytime I

558
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Speaker 8: feel like your name has been brought up, everyone is

559
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Speaker 8: just like, I love Jane. I mean it like, I

560
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Speaker 8: feel like a lot of people genuinely very much miss

561
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Speaker 8: you and always always talk so highly and how funny

562
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Speaker 8: you are and all those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Last.

565
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Speaker 1: But certainly not least, we have Angel Yin. Angel is

566
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Speaker 1: one of the most entertaining and magnetic players that I know.

567
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: She truly brings a party to the LPGA. She's best

568
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Speaker 1: known for her powerful swing, her wins on both the

569
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Speaker 1: LPGA and European tour, playing in the Solheim Cup, and

570
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Speaker 1: most recently capturing her second career LPGA title earlier this

571
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Speaker 1: year at the Handa LPGA Thailand. That win was especially remarkable.

572
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: She finished twenty eight underpar over four rounds, tying one

573
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Speaker 1: of the lowest four round totals on LPGA Tour events

574
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Speaker 1: in recent years. Angel was actually my very first guest

575
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Speaker 1: on Welcome to the Party, so it only felt right

576
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Speaker 1: to close out our final episode with someone I am

577
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Speaker 1: honored to call a friend. How old were you when

578
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Speaker 1: you started?

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Speaker 2: Six years old?

580
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Speaker 1: Oh? Okay, so you're really young. And so then did

581
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Speaker 1: you just like have like a natural knack for it?

582
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Speaker 9: No, I really liked it. I think I remember this

583
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Speaker 9: very clearly. When I was six. I mean this sounds crazy,

584
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Speaker 9: I told my mom I want to play professional golf.

585
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Speaker 9: We didn't know anybody, so I learned, Like my first

586
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Speaker 9: two people that I learned about is Jack Nicholas and Tiger.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and so like I hover my driver because of that.

588
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Speaker 2: Really yeah, wait, does Tiger hover the driver? Yeah? Oh

589
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Maybe he doesn't do it anymore.

590
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's actually a really cute fun fact.

592
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Speaker 2: Okay.

593
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: So then when you turn professional, right, you had a

594
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Speaker 1: win on the European Tour, which was that was a

595
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Speaker 1: big win.

596
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Speaker 2: That was a big reason in Dubai. It was really fun.

597
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then eventually on the LPGA Tour. You successfully

598
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Speaker 1: had your first win just in twenty twenty three and Shanghai.

599
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Speaker 2: Yes, was that a playoff? It was.

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Speaker 1: It was a playoff, and it was against Lily Lily,

601
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Speaker 1: and it was like just during one of the majors,

602
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Speaker 1: you were in the same predicament Chevron and you guys

603
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Speaker 1: were in a playoff, and then she got you in

604
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: this time you got her. Yeah, and so how how

605
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Speaker 1: was that being able to win but also in a playoff?

606
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Speaker 2: It was special.

607
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Speaker 9: I mean everybody really liked it because it happened all

608
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Speaker 9: in the same year.

609
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought it was special.

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Speaker 9: I do still think she wanted that bargain in that

611
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Speaker 9: trade off because she got a major and I got

612
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Speaker 9: a tournament. But I really like shang Hai, so I

613
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 9: can't complain and I'm not going to be greedy about anything. Yeah,

614
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Speaker 9: I'm really happy, and I really like how it turned out.

615
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Speaker 9: Maybe not on lily a side, because she lost the

616
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Speaker 9: lad but but you know, it was like a fairy tale.

617
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Speaker 9: It was really it was really awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think what was really wild. And I don't even

619
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Speaker 1: know if you remember talking to me through this is

620
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Speaker 1: before that win, you were telling me how difficult it

621
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Speaker 1: was for you to even want to be on tour

622
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Speaker 1: and that you were kind of going in and out.

623
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Speaker 1: You're like, I don't even know if I want to

624
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Speaker 1: like yeah, I want to do with yeah, yeah, But

625
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Speaker 1: like at the but you're someone who's actually very well ranked,

626
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Speaker 1: and you've been well ranked throughout all your years on tour.

627
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Speaker 1: You've made what I consider great money on tour. Why

628
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: would you want to walk away? Like what's going through

629
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Speaker 1: your head.

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Speaker 9: When you go through periods of time of extreme injury,

631
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Speaker 9: Like I couldn't like lift a water bottle or sleep

632
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 9: at night because my shoulder injury was so bad, And

633
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Speaker 9: then the expectation of you playing well and a lot

634
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 9: was always there, and then you have to like support

635
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 9: a team, you have to do a support a living.

636
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 9: Our income is so volatile. If I don't play well

637
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 9: for a certain stretch of period, now I'm losing money.

638
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 9: Even if you make the cut on the LPGA, if

639
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 9: you finish towards the end, you're barely making the cut,

640
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 9: And it's like paycheck to paycheck, and it's like you

641
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 9: want to hire the best people on our team, but

642
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 9: they're also expensive because they need to eat.

643
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, So everyone needs to eat every table.

644
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 9: Right, so it just piles up, and then I couldn't

645
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 9: see my golf ball fly straight. It was just going

646
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 9: left and right, and I know all I am doing

647
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 9: is duct taping it. I really just sat myself down

648
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 9: at the end of twenty twenty two and I was like, look,

649
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 9: either we make it or we quit, because if we

650
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Speaker 9: keep going like this, our bank account's going to run dry.

651
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Speaker 2: Technical were ten to eighty nines. So we get taxed

652
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: a lot, okay, and we have to spend a lot.

653
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: We have to spend a lot. We're all independent contractors.

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00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 9: We're not associated with any you know, organization, right, which

655
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 9: is quite funny because we get restricted to do things

656
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 9: that we cannot do. So it's always been interesting. No

657
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 9: one's really going to be out there like, hey, like

658
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 9: you're not doing well, let me support you, right, And

659
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 9: our status works with how well you play each year, right,

660
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Speaker 9: and so it washes completely in the beginning of the

661
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Speaker 9: next year. Every single year, okay single I mean, so

662
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 9: it's just gets so stressful. Right, Some people who's been

663
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 9: out tour for like a decade and play consistent golf,

664
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Speaker 9: all of a sudden on the tenth year, gets an injury,

665
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Speaker 9: and all of a sudden, now they have to like

666
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 9: fight for their status of play when people already know

667
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 9: who they are. You're like kind of almost losing an

668
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Speaker 9: icon in your own organization because you can't always like

669
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Speaker 9: build up new fandom or fan bases for these people

670
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 9: because they've been out here like they earned it, right.

671
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Speaker 9: My issue was that it was just like so hard

672
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 9: I had to upkeep it and I couldn't hit the

673
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Speaker 9: ball straight. So then twenty twenty two, I was like, Okay,

674
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Speaker 9: I need to fix it or we're gonna quit because

675
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 9: that's just the rat we're gonna lead. And then I'm

676
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Speaker 9: gonna have to I don't know, figure out my life

677
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 9: right from there, maybe the lawyer Finally now it's time

678
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Speaker 9: to actually go to maybe yeah, maybe the court maybe

679
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 9: needs me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay, So for those that are listening, the

681
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Speaker 1: reason why I'm so mind boggled is because when you

682
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Speaker 1: look at angel stats the year by year, like you've

683
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: always been essentially top fifty in rankings, career earnings. By

684
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Speaker 1: the way, this is Google leble. I'm not trying to

685
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Speaker 1: be a stocker or anything, but all our stuff is

686
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: it's all yeah on the LPGA tour. You can see

687
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Speaker 1: all this and every single year you've essentially made at

688
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Speaker 1: least half a million. Obviously twenty twenty three was an

689
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Speaker 1: amazing year. So excluding twenty twenty three, you've made half

690
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Speaker 1: a million in your earnings. But let's go back to

691
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Speaker 1: what you were saying in terms of everything costs a lot.

692
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Speaker 1: So let's say you make your half a million, how

693
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Speaker 1: much money are you actually spending on like the travel,

694
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Speaker 1: the caddy, the training, like you know, all the all

695
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Speaker 1: the stuff.

696
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Speaker 9: So caddy gets paid by percentage of how you do okay,

697
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 9: and so there's a percentage of that just gone. It's

698
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 9: not like a set fixed salary.

699
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Speaker 2: But what if they make a cut, they do get that.

700
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Speaker 9: So then so then my next thing is that each

701
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 9: week they get a percentage. If we don't do well,

702
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 9: they still are guaranteed money.

703
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: So it could be a loss.

704
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: Like if you don't play well.

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Speaker 9: You can you can probably lose around conservatively saying three

706
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 9: and a half.

707
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: Grand to four in one week. Yeah, without like much.

708
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Speaker 9: Because if you're travel and you have to stay at

709
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Speaker 9: a hotel or airing, be now, if you stay at

710
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 9: a host family, you can probably cut the costs down

711
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 9: to like true grand, but if you have a physio

712
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 9: with you, that also goes up because a physio, a

713
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 9: private physio is also quite costly, so you can you

714
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 9: can be looking at around in like six grand.

715
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Speaker 4: Okay, now I know that.

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Speaker 1: On the PGA Tour, when guys qualify and they get

717
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: their tour stetus, they're gifted a lot of money. I

718
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Speaker 1: think it's like three hundred to five hundred thousand dollars

719
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Speaker 1: just to go live, like really go do your Yeah. Yeah,

720
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: that became a new thing after like you know, Live

721
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: scared everybody and now everyone now the guys just like

722
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: they just pissed money.

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Speaker 2: Basically it feels like, oh.

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Speaker 1: That's nice, I know, right right, And so you guys

725
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: don't get that. And is there ever tournaments where like

726
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Speaker 1: they cover your like hotel and things like that.

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Speaker 9: There is so in the recent years it has been

728
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Speaker 9: really like kind sponsors that have supported us and have

729
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Speaker 9: covered our accommodation. One of them is Michelle's Tournament of

730
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Speaker 9: the Mizuho. The Mizuho is great, and then the new

731
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Speaker 9: sponsor that's come in is FM.

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Speaker 1: So literally you're someone that performs, so in my opinion,

733
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Speaker 1: you perform so well on the tour and you're out

734
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Speaker 1: here literally contemplating quitting because the costs and everything is

735
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Speaker 1: just too stressful.

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Speaker 9: I mean, there are some girls who play on tour

737
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Speaker 9: that don't have that much of a high status.

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Speaker 1: Do work, I mean, like work outside of professional golf heeping.

739
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Speaker 9: Do work on the off season, because their off season

740
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 9: actually starts in October.

741
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Speaker 1: I mean, and this is why we need more money

742
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Speaker 1: on the on the Women's.

743
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Speaker 9: Golf tourg I mean, I feel like our persons have

744
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 9: really grown son. I cannot say like, oh, we need

745
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 9: more money. I think it's more how we distribute it, right. Obviously,

746
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 9: like the person who won should get paid the most

747
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 9: for that event, for sure, But if the wall can

748
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Speaker 9: be a little bit fairly distributed, or just other ideas

749
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Speaker 9: of how the sponsors can be brought in, then that

750
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Speaker 9: would be different. Because I can't sit here and say like, oh,

751
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Speaker 9: we're not getting enough money for our tournaments, because I

752
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Speaker 9: don't want any organization or more market to be overvalued. Sure,

753
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 9: and if we continue to inflate our values and we're

754
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,439
Speaker 9: not like showing up like results like ours, our TV

755
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 9: numbers up is our engagements of fans, then we're just

756
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 9: you know, inflating our own numbers and then we're over

757
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 9: valuing ourselves. And I don't stand for that, and I

758
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 9: don't like that. And I know that like the PGA

759
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 9: Tour gets more because they bring in more. You know,

760
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 9: my thing which LPGA is doing from speaking to our

761
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 9: elected people is that governing bodies, Yeah, our governing bodies

762
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 9: that's not golfing. Is that they are doing that trying

763
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 9: to boost engagement everything all around, right, and not just

764
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Speaker 9: like hey, we need more tournament money for the tournaments

765
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 9: right right. The main issue is to be able to

766
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Speaker 9: spread the name out to hey, what is LPGA? Like,

767
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 9: how can we get the common folks and the households

768
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 9: to know more about LPGA? So I think that's more

769
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 9: important and I think that's.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully that's what they're doing. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, now that actually perfectly leads to my next

772
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: question is like, if you had a recommendation that can

773
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: help the LPGA tour from your point of view, what

774
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: do you think that you could say?

775
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 9: Gosh, okay, So so I mean this goes back on

776
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 9: what I think is men and women are different. So

777
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 9: men are just more performance bace like, you know, more

778
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 9: powerful and all that stuff. So they're the performance side girls,

779
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 9: or we're naturally born mothers so we have more nurturing.

780
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 9: Our characteristics are different. Yeah, and if we can probably

781
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 9: go more engagement side, be able to be more personable,

782
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 9: because every time a person plays a program and I'm

783
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 9: speaking to them, they go, I love playing on the

784
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 9: LPGA programs because the girls are more engaging. Yeah, and

785
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 9: all the time, they're much kinder and they actually have

786
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 9: a conversation with us. Yeah, And so if we can

787
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 9: just explore more in that route to get our name out,

788
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 9: I think that'd be really cool. But that's just my opinion.

789
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Speaker 1: No, I No, I think I think that your opinion

790
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: is very valid.

791
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Speaker 7: No.

792
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: I actually think that's a very safe response, and I

793
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: appreciate that response. I would I would sit here and

794
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: yell at everyone just to be like, watch the LPGA

795
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: tour because these players are actually really cool. Like I

796
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: will say that the Solheim Cup. I attended my first one,

797
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: and I thought it was actually the most exciting thing,

798
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: and like everyone was so pumped and all the fans

799
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: were engaged and they were saying too that like, oh,

800
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: I had way more fun being around the girls, because

801
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: not only were their personalities out, but it's like they're

802
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: a lot more relatable and like you can actually talk

803
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: to them. Like I've played in quite a few proms

804
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: with the guys on tour, like if they with John

805
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: Rahm and all these people, and I'm like, you barely

806
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: get a sentence out of them. And I feel like

807
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: like these people like they really get to know you, guys,

808
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: especially someone like you.

809
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's why I think that we're different. Right, So

810
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 9: if if we go keep going down on that route,

811
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Speaker 9: I mean obviously not too much because we're still golfing,

812
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 9: but yeah, we can just kind of explore more in

813
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 9: that realm.

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Speaker 2: I think it would help.

815
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So then in twenty twenty three, you clearly perform

816
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: the best amongst all those holes. And then and then

817
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: how much did you win?

818
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 2: I want a million dollars?

819
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 1: That's freaking crazy, Yeah, but what is the.

820
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Text on that a lot?

821
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Speaker 9: I was like, oh, no, numbers just gone damn okay.

822
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: But when you won, did that like provide so much

823
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 1: relief for you as well? I did.

824
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 9: I was like, everyone's like, what are you gonna do

825
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 9: with it? I'm like, put it in my vault. So

826
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 9: that I can support my future endeavors like golfing. If

827
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 9: I don't golf that well that.

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Speaker 2: Week, Oh my gosh, that's so gay.

829
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Speaker 3: People.

830
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Speaker 2: I did pay my manager, I did hire someone.

831
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Speaker 1: Did you not have like a first big purchase after that?

832
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Speaker 9: I was like that when I first got on tour, Okay,

833
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 9: I was like, oh, let me buy myself with Gucci glasses.

834
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: Is really cool.

835
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: That's what you chose to give yourself Gucci glasses.

836
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Speaker 9: It was my first purchase, like when I first turned

837
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 9: pro and I got my first paycheck.

838
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, my first paycheck on the l E T. I

839
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Speaker 2: got my mom car. Oh that's very sweet.

840
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: Obviously, this pod is all about, you know, getting to

841
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: know people like you who are on tour, providing better platforms,

842
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: especially for the girls that I feel like really deserve it,

843
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: but also welcoming new golfers into the game. Especially there's

844
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: like a lot of girls getting into it. What is

845
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: your best advice for girls just trying to get into

846
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: the game, Like your honest advice.

847
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 9: Swing it if you like it, keep going, have fun.

848
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 9: If not, have a have a beer and maybe.

849
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 2: You'll like it. Million friend. Yeah that bring your friend

850
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 2: to friend. It's a friend activity.

851
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: It is just like how you started. You learned by

852
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: what's having two of you and then one will eventually

853
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: quit because you just are way better.

854
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: And that's a wrap, y'all.

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Speaker 1: On Season one of Welcome to the Party, I had

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Speaker 1: an absolute blast making this show, and I hope you

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