WEBVTT - LaRayia Gaston on Embracing Love Without Reason

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Human with Leanne Rhymes is a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hello, my friends, I am so very happy

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<v Speaker 1>to welcome you to today's show because I am tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>inspired by the woman you're about to meet, activist, filmmaker

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<v Speaker 1>and author, Laria guest Stone. She is here to share

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<v Speaker 1>with us her passionate and practical ideas to bringing more kindness, generosity,

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<v Speaker 1>and love into this very needy world. And she is

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<v Speaker 1>truly someone who walks her talk. I am so pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to have her on today's Holy Humane. Thank Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining me on the Holy Human podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I am honored. I'm really honored to talk with you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll probably cry during this podcast because your work,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're bringing into this world is so beautiful. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I I think I I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>already know you through reading your book. Um, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's just like heart recognizes like heart, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you for the work

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing the world. It's it's done. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for having me here. Yeah. Um, look, you've you've

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<v Speaker 1>written a book called Love Without Reason The Art of

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<v Speaker 1>Giving a Fuck, which I think is just a fantastic title,

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<v Speaker 1>and you You've created a nonprofit called lunch on Me

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<v Speaker 1>that feeds everyone on skid wrote organic food on the daily.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you you have so much going on if

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've almost made love your job, like

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<v Speaker 1>that's your time job, which I think is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>If people are just coming upon you for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>how would you describe what you do to people? Lunch

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<v Speaker 1>on Me are nonprofit love without reason. It's radical philanthropy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's curated, intentional love. It's love for love's sake. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an expression. It's creating a voice in spaces that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel don't always have that, and it's really it's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the right thing. You know. We serve organic, healthy food.

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<v Speaker 1>We've set the bar really high because I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>you love in that way. So everything is in a

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<v Speaker 1>space that it's given the best of the best to everyone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so beautiful. I love that you say you're giving

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<v Speaker 1>a voice to those who don't have one or are

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<v Speaker 1>unable to use it, because I you know, growing up

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<v Speaker 1>with my voice being my my catalyst, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a performer, as a singer. Um, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>I think one of my missions in my life has

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<v Speaker 1>been to learn how to utilize my voice not just

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<v Speaker 1>for singing, but for for other purposes like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast and and giving you know, creating a space

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<v Speaker 1>for community and curiosity and and learning, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>be better human beings. So you know, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that voice, it's so important. It's so powerful when we're

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<v Speaker 1>able to to learn to utilize our voices for not

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<v Speaker 1>only ourselves but for the betterment of others. So I

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<v Speaker 1>I really commend you for for that, because that's we

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<v Speaker 1>don't realize what a gift that is. It's the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful I think, you know, between especially when it's connected

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<v Speaker 1>to our hearts like yours is. Yeah, it's nothing between

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<v Speaker 1>know which I love. I mean I've always found that

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<v Speaker 1>on stage when I sing, But I think I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>starting to learn to utilize that piece of myself. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>just in the world. I think that's that's what uh

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's what I see you doing. I see

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<v Speaker 1>you this really beautiful living embodiment of of love, not

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<v Speaker 1>just the concept of love, but like the the doing

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<v Speaker 1>and the being in the world. Like love is a verb.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, I don't know if love can

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<v Speaker 1>even be defined. I think that I'm not really sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you know, I don't know if we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever truly defined it, But I would love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what you since you talk about it so much. What love? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What that definition is for you? Well? When I think

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<v Speaker 1>of love, I think of love without reason, like that's

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<v Speaker 1>the driving force of it. Um. I think that love

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<v Speaker 1>is the most written about thing of all the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and yet very few hold it. And for me, love

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<v Speaker 1>without reason is loving for love's sake and nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>and being not attached to any form of an outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an expression. And when I also think of love, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you define it as one thing outside

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<v Speaker 1>out of being a verb in action, because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things to so many people. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we have to look at two things, what

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<v Speaker 1>love has been to us and what we want it

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<v Speaker 1>to be, And I think that they're very separate, and

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<v Speaker 1>not enough people put an emphasis on curating love, because

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<v Speaker 1>if you define love for only what it's been to

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<v Speaker 1>you and not what you want it to be, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it makes it passive. And I don't think love

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<v Speaker 1>is passive, and I think it needs to be intentional

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<v Speaker 1>and curated and I think that when we move into

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<v Speaker 1>that space and we start looking at it as an action,

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<v Speaker 1>then we can embody it, we can hold it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think a lot of people have got to hold it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's beautiful, so interesting because what love has

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<v Speaker 1>been to you because to so many people we confuse

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<v Speaker 1>love with many other things, pain, abuse. Um, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that you read after reading your book, I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you've experienced that growing up, you know, and and to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to shift into what you want love to be.

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<v Speaker 1>How that's that's so powerful? Can you talk about a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit about what love was to you growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and how that shift occurred. Yeah. I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>was given a gift because I learned what love was

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<v Speaker 1>and what love wasn't at the same time why I

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<v Speaker 1>was developing. So I think that that gave me an

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<v Speaker 1>option to choose. You know, I think I had seen

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of when love is absent, how corrosive it

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<v Speaker 1>can be, and when love is present, how infinite it

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<v Speaker 1>will be. And because I've seen it at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were both labeled labeled as love because of

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<v Speaker 1>who the lessons were coming from, you know, our families.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, a lot of times that's the first place

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<v Speaker 1>we're learning love. And because I learned such contrasting spaces,

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<v Speaker 1>I think very young, five six years old, I understood

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<v Speaker 1>clearly what I felt love was, not just by what

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<v Speaker 1>it was to me, but what I wanted to mean

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<v Speaker 1>and what I wanted to grab take more towards. And

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<v Speaker 1>it really was the light, infinite space, not the scarce

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<v Speaker 1>space space. And again, when people come from whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>any form of abuse or neglect or whatever their experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have to be very clear in knowing

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<v Speaker 1>that is not love, that is not you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's the absence of love. But you know, sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>comes in the place that we think. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's very important that we know what love is and

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<v Speaker 1>what it isn't. And it starts with even if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have it, define it for yourself and show up

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<v Speaker 1>as that first Yeah, because I was gonna say, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think. I don't think all of us get the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to know what it is. We grow up knowing

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<v Speaker 1>what it's not, but we think that we know what

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And so when you're saying to know, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta you have to know what that love is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if some people even we know where to begin,

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<v Speaker 1>you create it for yourself. I think that's why. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's why I say love is curated. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're lucky and you're in, you're rare, you get

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<v Speaker 1>to experience its entirety, you know. But if you aren't,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't mean you can't have it. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>create opportunities of love for yourself. And that's what I've

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<v Speaker 1>been very adamant about is if it's not there, don't

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<v Speaker 1>stop there. And you know, when they say be the change,

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<v Speaker 1>be that love, like I believe that's what it's referring to.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that sometimes we hear these ideas and because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have steps, we get kind of confused. It's

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<v Speaker 1>muddled with what that means and how to implement it.

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<v Speaker 1>But truly um to be able to experience love, you

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<v Speaker 1>decide what it looks like for you and be that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I also think that sets a tone when I

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<v Speaker 1>think about the dynamics of my life, the people I love,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that are closest to me, I set a tone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I decided I wouldn't love to be infinite for us,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I decided to be that. And it's been that. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah. I have a have a song that I

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<v Speaker 1>record a long ago called give and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it says, if you want to get loved and give it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if it's like you have to. I love

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<v Speaker 1>setting the tone and I love taking that power um

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<v Speaker 1>back for ourselves to be able to to set the tone.

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<v Speaker 1>I know when I walk into spaces, um, especially on

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<v Speaker 1>airplanes because I used to travel all the time. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so there's something that I would do is sit in

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<v Speaker 1>my seat and then everyone who walked by, I would

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<v Speaker 1>just bless them. I feel like when you bring that

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<v Speaker 1>just consciously, it doesn't have to be you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be telling everybody that you're around, like, oh I'm

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<v Speaker 1>blessing you today. You know there you think you're nuts,

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<v Speaker 1>but but it's if you just consciously put yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>that space, like it's it's amazing what what flows out

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<v Speaker 1>of that? What opportunities present themselves in front of you? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to give that love to someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that people feel it, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>do think love fills up rooms and think that you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel it, so that intention energetically a hundred I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in that That's how I feel too, Like I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go places and I'm like, I hope everyone's good today

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<v Speaker 1>or light and they let things go forgive. You can

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<v Speaker 1>see it in people, you know absolutely, and I God,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like when you when you've understood pain, when

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<v Speaker 1>you truly have understood pain, you just don't want, I

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<v Speaker 1>know for myself, like I just don't want to see

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<v Speaker 1>people feeling that, Like I just so deeply want people

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<v Speaker 1>to be happy. And yeah, I'm going to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>jump around here a bit because I just flow out

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation. I watched your the trailer for your documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>UM forty three days, and the trailer itself, I watched

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<v Speaker 1>it three times because I was I was so shook

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<v Speaker 1>by it in so many ways. Um because because of

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<v Speaker 1>many reasons, but it just touched my heart so deeply

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<v Speaker 1>because I think, you know that thought of God, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to see people in pain, and there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many people in pain. Um. But I there are a

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<v Speaker 1>few things that just caught my attention. The artistry, the

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<v Speaker 1>artistry of these people living on skid row was so incredible,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I almost wonder their their imagination. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you can take everything else from these people, but

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<v Speaker 1>they thought it was so beautiful to see that they

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<v Speaker 1>still had their imagination and their freedom of expression. And

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<v Speaker 1>I sat there and wondered, I'm like, are they closer

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<v Speaker 1>to God than we are? Yes? Yeah, yes, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>God more than any other place. I felt like being

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<v Speaker 1>in the street that what that is church for me?

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't see God in church, but I did

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<v Speaker 1>see it there. Yeah. Oh my god. That's one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite things that you said, um in your book

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<v Speaker 1>was that used that that giving to people is your church.

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<v Speaker 1>And because we we've we've come to I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up, you know, Southern Baptist, and the church was

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere you went on Sunday. It wasn't life like we

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<v Speaker 1>have we we've we grew up thinking or being taught

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<v Speaker 1>that it was in a building, or it was in

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<v Speaker 1>it for a specific moment, reserved for that. It wasn't life.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you start, I mean, I think the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>changes that we're going to see is when people start

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<v Speaker 1>taking church to the streets, church into everyday life where

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<v Speaker 1>you that's your worshiping. Yes, that's what I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>is like what I do and what I'm giving that

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<v Speaker 1>is my tithing, Like that is how I tie you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not just doing in church, but of course,

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<v Speaker 1>like I love, I was the church for the music.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I definitely found the experiences I read biblically,

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<v Speaker 1>like the things that felt unearthly angelic I've seen in

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, and that's when I started to connect the

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<v Speaker 1>dots for me. Wow, talk to me about a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about your documentary and what that experience was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you were you were really close to your grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>after she passed away. This was some Then you threw

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<v Speaker 1>your broken heart into was your documentary, and most people

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't even think to go down to skid Row to

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<v Speaker 1>even walk around in that area. And here you are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going to live amongst the people that you serve,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is so beautiful to really truly understand

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<v Speaker 1>what their life is like. How did that shift? First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, how did that shift your broken heart? And

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<v Speaker 1>how did that shift the way that you see life? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I went to skid Row because when my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>I passed um. I mean I always knew that that

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<v Speaker 1>would be the hardest moment of my life for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I always knew that like being with her. I

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<v Speaker 1>missed her when I was next to her, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew that, and so I prayed and I heard

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<v Speaker 1>her voice. I heard her. I heard her say go

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<v Speaker 1>to skid Row, and I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>what else do I have to lose? You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would do this. And then I was like I had

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<v Speaker 1>already wanted to, Like there were a lot of super

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<v Speaker 1>natural things that her that just pointed me to that space.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know, what better time my heart?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like I've always worked and been so goal

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<v Speaker 1>oriented and working that my heart was so broken. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do anything else. Like I was just

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<v Speaker 1>like I knew I had time. You know. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I felt that where my heart was into.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, you know, this is the time

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<v Speaker 1>to go down there. And when I went there, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought like, UM, make use of myself. The day my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother passed away, I was throwing a party on skit

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<v Speaker 1>Row and so and so I was already you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that had happened right shortly before UM. I heard her

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<v Speaker 1>take her last breath and then my party started. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was already I was already in that space when

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<v Speaker 1>she transitioned, and UM so I was like, Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go there and I'm gonna be of service. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I'm not the type of person I can

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<v Speaker 1>sit in my room and be depressed. There's life, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>life goes on. So I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I can go help people and and we'll see. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I decided to do it then. And I literally

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<v Speaker 1>thought I was go in there to just be of

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<v Speaker 1>service and to help everyone else, but they helped me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think it was the first time I realized

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<v Speaker 1>like that was the only place that I could that

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<v Speaker 1>could have cured um my heart, because I think that

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<v Speaker 1>the message my grandmother was sinding me is nothing's ever lost.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just redirected and replaced. And the love that you

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<v Speaker 1>seek here is also all around you. And so I

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<v Speaker 1>learned that. Um, I learned that in that moment, that

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<v Speaker 1>like love is never lost. So I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lost but it was a redirection of energy. Yeah, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow. Um I don't find it. I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>don't find it ironic. I think it's beautiful that you

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<v Speaker 1>were throwing a party on skid row at the moment

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your grandmother passed away. I mean, you know

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<v Speaker 1>you have said I see your heart so deeply, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's such a beautiful heart. You know, you said

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<v Speaker 1>how much your grandmother like taught you about love, and

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<v Speaker 1>then here you are, here, you are just basically living

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<v Speaker 1>out everything that she taught you. That my that she passed,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's just like, yeah, I definitely it was weird

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<v Speaker 1>because I like lost sound like I just remember hearing

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<v Speaker 1>her last breath and I just couldn't hear anything and

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<v Speaker 1>I just see like hundreds of flowers and balloons like

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<v Speaker 1>going and I was just like God hooked in the

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<v Speaker 1>space to not be sad. You know, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>a celebration, and it was one of those like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, I thought this was the time you

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<v Speaker 1>go into the dark place. In my mind, it was

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of like, for the first time in my life,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I can be in a dark place, and I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't because it's just so beautiful. Bless bless her

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<v Speaker 1>like that is just yeah, bless her first for showing

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<v Speaker 1>you what love is, because she is truly an angel

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<v Speaker 1>who is you know, paved the way for everything that

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing in every life that you're touching. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in your documentary there was there was this this man

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<v Speaker 1>who said something so profound and I kept rewinding it

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<v Speaker 1>back to watch it, and it is, Um, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not what you think of me. Seek for me, and indecency,

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<v Speaker 1>find me there in my dignity. Speak to me peacefully. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my soul is involved. And it just breaks my heart

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<v Speaker 1>because our souls are involved, like no matter what, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter where we are in this world, no matter what

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<v Speaker 1>hardship has come to us. Um, we we are. We

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<v Speaker 1>might be homeless, but we're not soulless. And God, that

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<v Speaker 1>just killed me. And it just reminded me, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it just reminds me that that could be any of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be any of us. Gabe, I love. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>his name is Gabe. Oh my god, I love that

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<v Speaker 1>his name is Gabe. My Um. I had a friend

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<v Speaker 1>who passed last year from diabetes, very young, and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know he had it and so he was sick

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden passed away. Um. And his

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<v Speaker 1>name was Gabe, and so you just reminded me of him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like my little angel and schedrole for sure. I

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<v Speaker 1>love him. You have no idea. He's like the most

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<v Speaker 1>gifted lyricist I've ever seen, Yeah, I mean, that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful. I mean, I know I've seen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I started singing. My dad has tapes me singing when

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<v Speaker 1>I was eighteen months old. Like I mean, I could

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't understand the word I was saying, but I was.

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<v Speaker 1>When I sang, it was so it was so real

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<v Speaker 1>and um, even from that young of an age, and

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<v Speaker 1>I as I've grown older, I've recognized how much art was. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was my my soul's way of you know, of

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<v Speaker 1>speaking in this world and places and expressing in places

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<v Speaker 1>where I didn't feel like I could express other places

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<v Speaker 1>in my life. Like I always joke, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>I could sing my life, everything would be perfect because

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<v Speaker 1>that she feels like the most honest expression. Um. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when you know you speak, like sometimes it just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come through. And when I saw the documentary trailer, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just blown away because it's it just makes you

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<v Speaker 1>realize how much art is used to soothe. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a soothing save to life's pain. And and in

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<v Speaker 1>the imagination, you know, being so close to God when

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<v Speaker 1>we are in that form of creation and imagination and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that that has not the fact that they

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<v Speaker 1>go to that so often they're to express is um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just powerful, it is. I definitely think yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's unearthly like the things I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>and experience with them, like just so many street angels,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's insane and we call them, let me call

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<v Speaker 1>them street angels. It's so good they did come street angels.

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<v Speaker 1>Street definitely, Um, yeah, you see that. And I think that,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, even just the most profound lessons. I always

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<v Speaker 1>say that God sends us profits to skit role for training,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see it, you know, I see it like

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<v Speaker 1>the messages, the wisdom, the deep understanding like their understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of like life and humanity and how we fall short,

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<v Speaker 1>and the grace that they have, like how they're treated

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<v Speaker 1>it's and how they still rise above. It's beyond me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's crazy. It's it's it's something I've seen nowhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>And on that powerful note, we're going to take a

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<v Speaker 1>very quick pause, but we'll be right back with more

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<v Speaker 1>wisdom and insight from Laray Gaston. Welcome back, Loves, and

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<v Speaker 1>we were just discussing the incredibly profound intersection between scarcity

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<v Speaker 1>and the sacred. It's amazing. I think when we have

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<v Speaker 1>things as you look when things are too completely taken

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<v Speaker 1>away from you, like where where the soul goes and

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<v Speaker 1>where the the freedom that it starts to find? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, I always look around all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we have and here we are. You know, all

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<v Speaker 1>we're focused on is you know, continuing to have those things,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and make to make sure we don't lose

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<v Speaker 1>that because now we have this sense of like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this this sense of safety that um that we continue

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<v Speaker 1>to try to to uh to keep that up, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that becomes our that becomes our drive and our hustle.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yeah, it's liberating. Like I stayed in It's

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<v Speaker 1>for forty three days with nothing in it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a yoga mat and a sheet and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna liry Like the simplicity of just having like my

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<v Speaker 1>little backpack and nothing else. Now money, nothing, and and

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<v Speaker 1>just even the resources I had were dependent on there's generosity.

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<v Speaker 1>So even to see that like oh I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>water today, but you know in an hour someone will

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<v Speaker 1>come from a church or a nonprofit or whatever and

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<v Speaker 1>show up to help. You know, it was. That part

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<v Speaker 1>was very liberating, Like I'm not gonna lie. The simplicity

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<v Speaker 1>of like not having stuff, not accumulating things, not hoarding

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<v Speaker 1>like it was, it was, that was my favorite part

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. I mean talk about trusting the universe, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you have to. You're talking like moment to moment,

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<v Speaker 1>being in the moment and trusting that what is your

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<v Speaker 1>needs will be provided for. I mean we we hear

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<v Speaker 1>that all the time, you know, like, oh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the universe will provide for you, Like sure, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's hard to wrap your mind around that. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you're in that kind of situation, like your basic needs,

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<v Speaker 1>you are moment to moment trusting that those will be

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<v Speaker 1>provided for. Yeah. You I think you definitely in those

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<v Speaker 1>spaces you kind of have to master faith, right because

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to grab onto, so you don't have a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>You can only hope for the best. And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times, I mean I definitely can say all my

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<v Speaker 1>needs were Matt, and I can say that with all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. The universe is definitely answering. Yeah you say, um,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the I think this is really powerful. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the stories that you tell about you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>like you just said you didn't have money when you

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<v Speaker 1>were down there, you went with no money and the

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<v Speaker 1>panhandling of you know, of asking for money. What was

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<v Speaker 1>I would love for you to share that experience because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's so powerful. That experience is the reason

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote my book it well, yeah, I was so

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<v Speaker 1>that Okay for one, just it helping in a community

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<v Speaker 1>that's without resources and those things is one thing. When

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<v Speaker 1>you experience their walk and what they have to go through,

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<v Speaker 1>it is so eye opening, and not even from the

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<v Speaker 1>space of like them, but us, like people in the

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<v Speaker 1>house community, you know, like people having so much and

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<v Speaker 1>giving so little but deeming themselves good people. And I

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost like imaginative. I don't know where it

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<v Speaker 1>comes from, like where these ideas come from, because I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe it is actions. And to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>space where I really thought, like in my mind, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I can come up with twenty four dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I felt like I was like if someone because

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<v Speaker 1>in my head I really thought humans, I'm like, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're humble enough to um share our vulnerability and really

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<v Speaker 1>ask for a need, if you stoop low enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be that humble right where you're just like, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm burying what I need that you would think

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<v Speaker 1>that humans were so good that we wouldn't allow needs

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<v Speaker 1>to go and met for someone that's even walking in humility.

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<v Speaker 1>So in my head, I'm like, okay, like I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell them. And then also I thought about not

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<v Speaker 1>just that, I'm like, you know, people have reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>they don't give, they have a problem with addiction, all

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<v Speaker 1>these things, and I'm like, I'm clearly centered and sound

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<v Speaker 1>mind in writing, and I just need help. And the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that no one helped me. Literally I saw five

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<v Speaker 1>six people in a day. I kept asking everyone told

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<v Speaker 1>him what I was doing. I needed twenty four dollars

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<v Speaker 1>for tarps. It's going to rain, something I never thought

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<v Speaker 1>about because you don't even think about that in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>So the day of course I'm there, it rains, and

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone said no, like the level of resistance, like

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<v Speaker 1>the blocks I saw on people's hearts, on their humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>when I say, I was so shattered. I went through

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<v Speaker 1>every range of emotions. I was angry at humanity. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I understood why people when I'm like when people are

0:25:40.320 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>screaming in the street, said I can understand when you

0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where you're just like I'm hurting,

0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm without what I'm asking for. You lose like you know,

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you'll lose in your laundry, like it's something you would

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>never even miss. The level of the energy that went

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.920
<v Speaker 1>into resisting helping was the part that I was just shot.

0:26:00.000 --> 0:26:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think that people and maybe I'm far removed

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:05.600
<v Speaker 1>because I don't live in that way at all, But

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the problem is the majority speaks for what's going on.

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.639
<v Speaker 1>So it's like it doesn't matter that I've you know,

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm the aunt going left. It's like, where's everyone else going?

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was so hurt because we don't help. I

0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>realized how far removed people are from their hearts, and

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.000
<v Speaker 1>that to me is so taxing on our soul. So

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:28.280
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just you know, just like it wasn't just

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't help me, but it's like, what do

0:26:30.800 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you think that's chip, chip chipping away at for your

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.880
<v Speaker 1>own self? Yeah, Well, it's so interesting that you said,

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, the vulnerability piece and needs, because I don't

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>know if most of humanity is even in touch with

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>what their needs are themselves and their own vulnerability and

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.680
<v Speaker 1>so to even ask for I mean, I you know,

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 1>I talk a lot about mental health because I've dealt

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>with it my whole life, and um, you know, just

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the stigma like an asking for help when we are

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:07.119
<v Speaker 1>in when we are suffering. I mean we're just now

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>starting to break that down. And so if you really

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>think about it, like most people aren't in touch with

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.720
<v Speaker 1>needs and to see someone else asking, it's almost like

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I wonder, I wonder if it's like hits this like

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.080
<v Speaker 1>core shame in all of us that we just wall

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we just wall ourselves up and they're like, oh no,

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I don't want to look at that. I

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:31.920
<v Speaker 1>don't want to deal with that because I have to

0:27:32.000 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>touch on me the places that are hard to touch.

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>And I mean that's the problem. Nothing should be in

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.840
<v Speaker 1>between us and our hearts. Nothing. Yeah, you know, it

0:27:43.840 --> 0:27:46.639
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be accepted. And it's one of those like I

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.280
<v Speaker 1>understand it, but I don't accept it, yeah, completely. And

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like that's where we have to do the inner

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>work because when I see that the only two people

0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 1>that helped me were homeless, and so I think the

0:27:56.560 --> 0:27:59.119
<v Speaker 1>worst part was like I'm getting upset and I'm like,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.000
<v Speaker 1>go sit down and a corner because I'm like, humans

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.879
<v Speaker 1>are really hurting my feelings right now. So I'm in

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 1>a space where I'm like, Okay, I gotta I like,

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:08.360
<v Speaker 1>I literally tell myself I have to center myself because

0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like if I can't respond in a place of love,

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>like I had to focus because I'm getting a little snappy,

0:28:12.800 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting a little upset. So I'm like literally put

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>my little sad looking love without reason box. I have

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>a little box that I made myself that literally said

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>love with that reason. I hopefully people don't understand. Like

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>just to get I put my box down. My head's

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 1>down because I'm trying to center myself, and then like

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>change just drops in my in my box. And when

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:35.479
<v Speaker 1>it happened, like that change was so much bigger than

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>pocket change. It was a restoration of humanity, the idea

0:28:39.480 --> 0:28:43.000
<v Speaker 1>of like someone didn't let me down. And when I look,

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>it's he looks like a retired war vet. He's scooting

0:28:47.360 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>away and he just like puts the change in. He

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>just just going and I just like start crying. I

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>can't even move, Like I'm literally like paralyzed. I can't

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>even move because I can't believe it's street ham. I

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>can't believe the person that shows up for me is

0:29:01.440 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>the person who has nothing. And so my friend that

0:29:05.520 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>was fielming, this was we were doing this all when

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>we were on skin roll. My friend Nima that was filming.

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 1>He's like far away, like filming in the cut, and

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like telling him. I'm like crying. I'm like, go

0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.479
<v Speaker 1>get that guy, like you'll get him, because in my head,

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm like I can't take a change. I don't even care,

0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna be in the rain, Like I just

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>can't take this man's money, you know. And so Nema

0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:27.160
<v Speaker 1>grabs him and ask him like why did you get

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>to her? And he's like because I've been there so

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>many times. It's like I know that. And he like

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 1>gives me hug and he goes it's gonna be okay,

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm crying. So he just I can't even get

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the words out. So he thinks I'm crying because I'm upset,

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:42.320
<v Speaker 1>but I'm crying because I can't believe that he would.

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe his spirit, you know. I'm just like done.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And so I tell him and and it was just

0:29:49.400 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 1>he connected. There was nothing, and there was nothing in

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>front of his heart. Nothing. You know, what do you

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 1>think is stunting us from that growth? What do you

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:00.880
<v Speaker 1>think is the is the thing that is keeping us

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>from getting in touch with that deeper place in ours?

0:30:05.920 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 1>It's discipline. I think that the problem is anything we

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>want to master, anything we want to be great at,

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 1>comes with a discipline. And I think that we need

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to look at love, our vulnerability, our relationships itself. It's

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>a discipline. You don't magically get there. I think again,

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.920
<v Speaker 1>it's all intentional, you know, And I think that we

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 1>don't put that same time. If I want to be loving,

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>if I want to be forgiving, if I want to

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>be vulnerable, I better have a blue plan for that,

0:30:34.080 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, a day to day discipline and action. What

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 1>is going on with the racing, just like what's happening.

0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're in agreeance with us. They just want to

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 1>be They just want to be a part of our conversation.

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's I agree. And so I think that it

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is a discipline, and I think that that's what's getting

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 1>in our way ourselves, because we are not prioritizing those things.

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Everything else is important. But but the thing is what

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>makes that so important? Is the more we grow, the

0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 1>more we become better. Everyone around us benefits from it.

0:31:05.480 --> 0:31:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Every interaction benefits from it. It's like when we grow,

0:31:09.080 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>not just for ourselves, but to navigate in a lighter,

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>more healthy way. You know, the world is benefiting from

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that space, that growth, mastering those things. And so I

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>think that's that's a part of the core issue. We

0:31:24.680 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 1>have to curate things. We have to make it intentional,

0:31:28.120 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 1>all of it. Yeah, I mean, I your yeah, intentions

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>such a huge piece of that. And I I know

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>for my own self, my own experience, Like I know

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 1>when my heart's closed, you know, And I know what

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>that feels like, and it's painful. It's painful, and I've

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>walked around living like that a lot of my life,

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>you know. And I and then I know in my

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:48.400
<v Speaker 1>heart's open and the freedom and that and the joy

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>and that and and I You're right about the intention

0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 1>and the discipline, because something can happen, whatever it may be,

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:58.960
<v Speaker 1>that trigger is and instantly like our hearts closed, and

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I can, I mean, I can walk around in that

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>space for a while without if I'm not intentional and

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>aware of it, you know, uh, to be able to

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, I get lost in that space again, basically

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it's your It's almost like it's our default setting. Right,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So in us you're unless you're aware, unless you have

0:32:18.200 --> 0:32:22.040
<v Speaker 1>practices that are cultive. You're cultivating um to bring us

0:32:22.080 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>back into our heart space. There's it's so easy just

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.200
<v Speaker 1>to get lost. Yeah, And the more you practice, I

0:32:29.240 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>think what happens is like practice habits um. You know

0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>that discipline, it eventually becomes innate. So when once you've

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.080
<v Speaker 1>practiced being open more than you have being closed, that

0:32:41.240 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>becomes your default setting. But you have to recognize you

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 1>have to get there. Yeah, you know you don't. You

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta get there. You gotta put the miles in, you know.

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And so that's important. I think that to be loving,

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>to be patient, I have to practice patience. To have

0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>deep understanding, I have to seek understand like those are

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>things that we I do believe we have to do. Yeah,

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 1>I am in the morning. I I love a course

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 1>in Miracles. I know you you've quoted some of that

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>in your book, UM, and I think that it's such

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful book. And I pray one of my favorite

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>prayers in the in the courses, where would you have

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>me go? What would you have me do what would

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you have me say? Into whom? And every morning when

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>I wake up, it's the first thing that I pray,

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and it's it's the to me. It's my way of

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>putting my mind and my my vessel into the into

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.320
<v Speaker 1>being a walking miracle. I you know, I always think

0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:38.520
<v Speaker 1>that we always ask for our prayers to be answered,

0:33:38.560 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>but we forget to be We forget that we can

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>be the answer to someone else's prayers. We forget that

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.600
<v Speaker 1>we can be used and utilized in that way. You know,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>what are what are some of them? That's that's kind

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>of my way of getting in touch with it in

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 1>the morning. First thing, What are what are some of

0:33:55.520 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>your ways that you you know, can that you get

0:33:59.280 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>connected with it. I mean, I feel like now you're

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 1>just like a walking You're like you don't even need

0:34:02.800 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 1>to be connected with that, you just all the time.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>But I feel like, you know, maybe other people are like,

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, how do I how do I continue or

0:34:09.320 --> 0:34:12.520
<v Speaker 1>how do I start my day? Or you know, stay

0:34:12.560 --> 0:34:16.560
<v Speaker 1>connected to that mindset of giving an openness. Well, I

0:34:16.640 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>think it starts well, I think it starts with micro gestures.

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of like how um I like to

0:34:23.840 --> 0:34:27.840
<v Speaker 1>articulate it. For me, it's those acts have to have

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>have to happen every day. So for me to create

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>a habit or to make something innate, I have to

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.719
<v Speaker 1>do it every day. Doesn't take much time. Um, but

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:38.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the things I like to do. I mean,

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 1>it's simple, but it's the curating experiences, curating love, whether

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:46.279
<v Speaker 1>it's putting your phone down with you when you're with

0:34:46.400 --> 0:34:49.400
<v Speaker 1>people you love and giving you your undivided attention. It's

0:34:49.400 --> 0:34:51.680
<v Speaker 1>getting into a space where we recognize, for one, we

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.160
<v Speaker 1>have to be present to even do these things, you

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 1>have to be present, you know. And that's Buddhist philosophy.

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.480
<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of different things being grounded U. So

0:35:00.840 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 1>being present is one of the first things I do.

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't be that miracle or curate that love if

0:35:06.840 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what's in front of me. And

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of times I think my focus has always

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 1>been to train my mind. Like Michael jesters are important

0:35:14.600 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>because you train your mind to find the opportunities where

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>you can do good. When I'm at a coffee shop,

0:35:20.920 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I order coffee, whoever is behind me, I'm like, hey,

0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 1>can you put your order on my tab? I want

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 1>to buy you coffee. It doesn't matter who it is,

0:35:27.160 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, you know, it's one of the

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>things I like to do. And that's such a super quick,

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>curated love moment because everyone it's it's simple. Everyone likes

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>to feel loved, nurtured, taking care of scene and that

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.600
<v Speaker 1>simple thing. It doesn't matter where you sit financially, if

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you have a lot of you have a little someone

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:47.800
<v Speaker 1>doing that for you. It's it's the energy and intention

0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>of someone just wanting to love on you and be kind.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And so those are small things I do. You know,

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I keep five dollars in my bag because sometimes I

0:35:56.120 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>don't have time to grab food for someone. You know,

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>it might be street fan that's like, hey can you

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:02.719
<v Speaker 1>grab me? And I'm like, tear take this money, go

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>get it like or if I have time, I'm like, hey,

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>come in the store with me and order whatever you want.

0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 1>But um, I'm very intentional about how I walk this

0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:16.280
<v Speaker 1>world and what my interactions can be and always showing

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>up for people. And of course I'm still learning so

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:21.479
<v Speaker 1>much when it comes to these things. The same things

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that I've written about, I've had to implement every day

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and learn that those are the things that that become

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>better and better and easier. But I think it starts small,

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and I think it doesn't start with the love we

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.120
<v Speaker 1>reserve for our families. They already have that. I'm there's

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a whole world around us that could use that same love.

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I believe there isn't a place love shouldn't be or

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>should occupy. And I think that again, those are the

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>intentions and it's all small acts. I don't think that.

0:36:48.560 --> 0:36:51.359
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes we think of this like grand gesture, this big thing,

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.240
<v Speaker 1>and I think it's a collection of what we do daily.

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that's what changes everything, because those are the interactions.

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.320
<v Speaker 1>We focus so much on what's next, but what's in

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>front of us? Is there something I can do for

0:37:04.880 --> 0:37:06.359
<v Speaker 1>the person in front? I mean, I think that's also

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>has to do with developing being attentive. I'm very attentive

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.480
<v Speaker 1>to everyone around me, their needs, their wants, ways I

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:16.799
<v Speaker 1>can you know, sometimes when you like how you said,

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:19.359
<v Speaker 1>people don't know what they want. Sometimes we gotta show them.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Everyone wants love, that wants attention, you know, and and

0:37:23.880 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it's like, you know, it's good. Like Collie Griban

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<v Speaker 1>says in Um one of his poems, it's good to

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 1>give one asked, it's better to give unasked the understanding,

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:37.239
<v Speaker 1>And I believe in that, you know, that's the attentiveness

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that needs to happen, you know, because you're seeking to

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>have a deeper understanding in a better way to serve

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 1>that What what you kind of touched upon this briefly,

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<v Speaker 1>But what are some of the biggest misticanceptions when it

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 1>comes to giving that you come in contact with. I

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 1>think that, well, there's two things, and I talked about

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:57.680
<v Speaker 1>that in the book. I think that when it comes

0:37:57.760 --> 0:38:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to giving, we come there's only two places. I think

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 1>we pull from um a mindset of abundance or a

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>mindset of a scarcity. So I think a lot of

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:12.479
<v Speaker 1>times you have one giver who gives because they feel

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:15.360
<v Speaker 1>it's an infinite thing, you know, it's just like an

0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>infinity sign. It's always going to be a cycle. And

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>then you have a person that believes if they give,

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they'll never have enough for themselves. And I think that

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 1>you have to think about those things giving, which one

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>could which one would contribute to our happiness, you know,

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 1>and which one is more taxing to the soul. And

0:38:34.200 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that starting before people even give, that's I

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>feel like those are the two mindsets that I hear

0:38:40.560 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>from people. And I think that when people come from

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>the space of scarcity has nothing to do with how

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.120
<v Speaker 1>much they have. It has to do with their mindset

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>about what they have. You know, some of the origins

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>people I know operate from the place of scarcity, and

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.720
<v Speaker 1>some of the poorest people I know, financially poor, operate

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:02.480
<v Speaker 1>from abundance that there will always be for everyone. So

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I think that to give, we also have to know

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>where we're pulling from, because sometimes people give from that scarcity,

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how holy that is. I don't

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:14.640
<v Speaker 1>know if that's coming from a high energetic place and

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.320
<v Speaker 1>if that's even fulfilling or they feel like they're just

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.320
<v Speaker 1>they're just it's almost like an ego need. Like you

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 1>said earlier, they call themselves good people. So if I'm

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna call myself a good person, that now it might

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.760
<v Speaker 1>have to give every once in a while, and it's important.

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>I know you touched upon this too, like the energetics

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>of giving is as important, if not more important, than

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>they give itself. Yeah, and it's just an expression of freedom.

0:39:37.360 --> 0:39:39.719
<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like when we give, it feels if

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you get past yourself and that ecospace and all that.

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>It's so innate to us. Like you see children on

0:39:46.160 --> 0:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the playground, they don't they don't give or share to

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 1>be good. It's literally innate to them, you know. That's

0:39:52.160 --> 0:39:54.960
<v Speaker 1>why kids want to play, and it's it's obviously a

0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:58.320
<v Speaker 1>completely different interaction than adults have, but if you see it,

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>it's just it just seems more natural to us to give,

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>to share, to coexist in harmony. And I think that

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that's where we also have to pull from, especially when

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.200
<v Speaker 1>it comes to giving. It does feel amazing energetically when

0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>you get past your own self and all your defenses,

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.520
<v Speaker 1>because we can articulate every single reason why we don't

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.560
<v Speaker 1>want to give. But I think if we just limit down,

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>does that feel good to you? Like we're inside of you?

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 1>Does that feel good? Because there's so much energy that

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>goes into stopping ourselves from giving when it's like, no,

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:33.439
<v Speaker 1>just give because you can and do it with joy,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I feel like that's important. There's nothing

0:40:37.120 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 1>too big and too small. I think it's the energy

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that's present in it. Find buying someone's coffee, it's with

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 1>my whole heart, you know. It's like I'm buying up

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:46.399
<v Speaker 1>the bar. Pick whatever you wanted, the menu, you want

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>almond milk, you got it. It's just from the it's

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>just from that space of like I just want to

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>be good to you. And this is where we're going

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>to take a quick break for just a minute. But

0:40:56.960 --> 0:41:03.640
<v Speaker 1>I promise Morgan this as soon as we return. Welcome

0:41:03.680 --> 0:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>back everyone. Laria and I were just discussing how truly

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 1>in our nature it is to be generous. It's so interesting.

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:12.920
<v Speaker 1>I had this huge epiphany the other day about anxiety

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>for myself and I was like, some of the some

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest anxiety for me is when I recognize

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>that I am closing myself down and that I am,

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>like you said, it takes so much energy, so much

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>energy too to protect ourselves, you know. And and when

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>that love flows like there's God you're talking, you know,

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:41.280
<v Speaker 1>there there is freedom. That is freedom is to allow

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, that love to flow outward um effortlessly and

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 1>without expectation. I think that expectation pieces such a huge thing. Uh,

0:41:52.040 --> 0:41:55.160
<v Speaker 1>an expectation, you know, a lot of us are afraid,

0:41:55.280 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, to get taken advantage of and we think

0:41:57.800 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>that you know, you're talking about being attentive to people,

0:41:59.680 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>and hear so much about like this codependent society. We

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 1>can't be codependent, we can't like and I almost feel

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>like it almost stops us from from being attentive, you know,

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 1>all of all of these things you're talking about, Like,

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 1>it's just so easy for It's so easy. Yeah, it's

0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>so easy for us to spire. Absolutely, and yeah, I

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:24.240
<v Speaker 1>mean it really is. It just it's become our habit.

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 1>It's becomes it is. And like when you when you

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>brought up anxiety, the first thing I thought was, that's

0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:36.120
<v Speaker 1>your soul giving you an alarm for your actions being betrayal.

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a betrayal and I think that our

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 1>souls trying to get our intention. So I definitely think

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.759
<v Speaker 1>that that's what that's connected to. I feel like the

0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>less we betray ourselves, a less anxiety will hold. Um.

0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I also think that when we come from the space

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.759
<v Speaker 1>of being taken advantage of, we come from the space

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 1>of scarcity. M hmm. That's so. And it's one of

0:42:58.440 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>those so what so what if your love isn't used,

0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:05.279
<v Speaker 1>does that mean you shouldn't put it somewhere? Should it

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>just stay inside of you? It's about love being expression

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of verbs, and we are full of love and it

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.359
<v Speaker 1>needs a place to go. Yes, it's energy, and that's

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like when it's not used, it's like I feel like

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 1>needs again, that's why you have to be So that's

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.600
<v Speaker 1>why I believe, Like like I said, the definition of

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.840
<v Speaker 1>love without reason is not being attached to the outcome

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:31.400
<v Speaker 1>to love for love sake and nothing else. Because you

0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 1>have love and it needs somewhere to go, and you

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 1>can only hope. I hope how the things I do that, um,

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, they will see the light of day or

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 1>someone will hold it in the same expression as me.

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.560
<v Speaker 1>But that does not take away for me wanting to

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.240
<v Speaker 1>show up and give love. And a lot of times

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 1>when people don't hold the love that I want to

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:54.320
<v Speaker 1>give them, I hurt for them because I know I

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>can see the guard between them and their heart. You know.

0:43:57.440 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like there's a quote that says, you build wall

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.760
<v Speaker 1>so tall you can't even climb them, and that hurts

0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.879
<v Speaker 1>because I see the pain. I've never met someone who

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>was guarded, who was just filled with joy. I haven't

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.600
<v Speaker 1>seen that, you know. And so sometimes when my love

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 1>is rejected or misunderstood, I have pain for them because

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm holding a gift that they can't even see because

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>they put so many things in front of their heart,

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and so a lot of times we can

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:34.120
<v Speaker 1>have sympathy. It's like the idea that um, I don't

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 1>know who said it was someone it was Mariann Williamson

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>where she said anything that's not of love as a

0:44:39.040 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 1>cry out for love, and so it's like sometimes it's

0:44:42.800 --> 0:44:45.960
<v Speaker 1>foreign or one thing I had to learn was when

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:50.960
<v Speaker 1>our love can be viewed as not um as as

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.520
<v Speaker 1>not being used or taking advantage. Sometimes it's a foreign

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>thing and it's a first encounter. Sometimes you don't even

0:44:58.440 --> 0:44:59.919
<v Speaker 1>know what to do with it because you've never seen

0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>it before. Absolutely, So it's like just what I've learned

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 1>is when I've been foreign to people, giving up robs

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 1>me of the joy. Because even with Street fam, you know,

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:15.359
<v Speaker 1>there were people that I met where I was there

0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>first encounter of love, but my consistency broke the barriers.

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Leve will break through anything. Leve will break through anything.

0:45:25.120 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's where the idea of like love

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>being patient is so important and also coming from the

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>space when I'm rejected. I kind of like it, like

0:45:33.360 --> 0:45:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Loki it's kind of turned into especially on skin Row

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:41.120
<v Speaker 1>and like dealing with my street fan and strangers. I

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:45.239
<v Speaker 1>really like it because I helped them work through those

0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>barriers because I know that the person that gives me

0:45:48.719 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the hardest time is the most loving. Like I have

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.920
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's just, oh my god. He he used

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>to be a nightmare. He used to be such a

0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.239
<v Speaker 1>nightmare and so mean to me. And I would always

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>tell him, it's okay, I'll see you tomorrow. I'm trying tomorrow.

0:46:02.640 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 1>And I would constantly do it, and I would just

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 1>bother him to the to the point where like now

0:46:07.719 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>he can't leave without hugging me, and like and he

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.799
<v Speaker 1>won't let go. And he's like this big tough guy

0:46:13.960 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that like cusses war again, another war vet working a

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 1>lot of vets and so and older guys. And now

0:46:21.640 --> 0:46:25.120
<v Speaker 1>it's like we there's a part of his heart that

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>just he's reserved for us. And it's so beautiful to

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.880
<v Speaker 1>see because but it wouldn't have happened. I wouldn't have

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:37.240
<v Speaker 1>carried out the action of love through patients and consistency.

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:39.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm just like, it's okay. And again that that

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 1>comes with deep understanding that what he's doing. His rejection

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:47.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't to me. He was rejecting his own self, you know.

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:50.120
<v Speaker 1>And so like when you look at that, then it's like, no,

0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>they can't take advantage of you. They're actually hurting themselves.

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.239
<v Speaker 1>And that's what we need to get through. Like when

0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I saw like those moments, I'm telling you, the hard ones,

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the bad apples, like those are the ones that are

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:06.720
<v Speaker 1>the most golden, the most golden, the four agreements basically

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:08.840
<v Speaker 1>like one of them, you know, don't take anything personally

0:47:09.000 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's that's it. No, Yeah, I really don't. Like

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 1>I just have conversations by myself. I'm just like it's okay,

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll knock on the heart. I'll nock on the door

0:47:17.760 --> 0:47:21.320
<v Speaker 1>of your heart again tomorrow. I'll go this again. Or

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:25.719
<v Speaker 1>even like certain people like my attorney is not She

0:47:25.960 --> 0:47:28.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the softest person when I met her, and I

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 1>was with her yesterday and um, I was just like,

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna hug you now, and she's just like sitting

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 1>there and I just put my arms around her shoulder

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and I hold her a little longer like where it

0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>was probably uncomfortable for her, and I just feel her

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>like melt you know, even though there's like all these cards,

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's been an l A attorney for so

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.360
<v Speaker 1>long as all these cards, and I'm just like, I

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>love that because I know that that love or those

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>barriers like there's a place for it to go. And

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that we also have to work with each

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:01.680
<v Speaker 1>other and be kind and patient and understanding that we

0:48:01.760 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 1>are trying to figure it out. And when someone knows

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:07.680
<v Speaker 1>or has a little more experience in something, then you know,

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:11.279
<v Speaker 1>you curate it, you set the tone right. I would

0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 1>love for you to tell talk to everyone about the

0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 1>three bees because that's I think so important. Will you

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>walk me through what those are? Yeah? So um when

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>writing out like Michael gestures and things that I think

0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:28.360
<v Speaker 1>they're very important what we're doing, of course, being mindful,

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>intentional and generous. Um. The reason that those things are

0:48:33.040 --> 0:48:37.880
<v Speaker 1>important to me is, for one, generous because so many people,

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 1>like my experience with trying to get twenty four dollars,

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.840
<v Speaker 1>people are not generous. And that's something I think that

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:45.680
<v Speaker 1>we all have to work on because if we want

0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:48.800
<v Speaker 1>to be good people, or if we even if we

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>believe in this trend of gratitude, that's an action and

0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, you're gonna have to be generous. Like

0:48:55.320 --> 0:48:57.560
<v Speaker 1>that is the action of like if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be grateful, I have to act gratefully And a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of that has to do with like give the and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what generosity says. And then just being mindful. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the reason that is so important is we think

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves out of half the things we won't do before

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<v Speaker 1>we even get to a point of action, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>like when we talked about the spiral, like the the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the spiral, it's like, before we even get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to do something, even if it's being vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do Half the time we don't call right,

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, call first, it's gonna be you gotta,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta, You've got to When that that first feeling

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<v Speaker 1>comes in of like I want to be vulnerable, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to give, it's like you need to act on

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<v Speaker 1>it right. Then to impulsive, completely impulsive, don't completely the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite of everything everyone else has told you. Yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be impulsive when it comes to that, because

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<v Speaker 1>those are your your actions, your feelings in your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And so that mindfulness is important because we

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<v Speaker 1>do have to train our minds to come from that

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<v Speaker 1>space of infinite abundance um not scarcity. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of reframing that has to happen mentally. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>being mindful is important, because we have to be aware

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<v Speaker 1>of what we tell ourselves, you know, the stories we

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<v Speaker 1>tell ourselves. And I think that once we take a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to say like, Okay, I'm gonna be present, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to talk myself out of things. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. When I think about that with microL gestures,

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<v Speaker 1>for me, a lot of people don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to people, especially strangers. So that mindfulness of get

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<v Speaker 1>out of your own head and get into the world

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<v Speaker 1>and just silence that and be present and allow you know,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah and yeah, and observe, like, observe what's in front

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<v Speaker 1>of you, what's happening, listen, training with the energy as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the reason being intentional is important is know

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<v Speaker 1>why you're doing what you're doing, the root of it,

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<v Speaker 1>where is it coming from the root. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very detached to a reason. I mean that's why I,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, I believe in love without reason is

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<v Speaker 1>because it's this feels right. I don't have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a motive like it feels right, energetically, spiritually, heart work.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels right. And that's why I think that intention

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<v Speaker 1>of I have love to give, and I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>give it. I don't think that it needs to be

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<v Speaker 1>any further than that. Not who you are to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Not you know I should No, no, no, This is

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing to do. It feels right, and my

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<v Speaker 1>intention is to share love. And I can only hope

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<v Speaker 1>that's why you have to be detached to the outcome.

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<v Speaker 1>I can only hope you'll meet me halfway. I love that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful. I can talk love with you all day.

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<v Speaker 1>I write so much about it, you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's it's what I want to put into the

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<v Speaker 1>world too. I think, you know, when when I think

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<v Speaker 1>about what anchors me and my my mission in this

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<v Speaker 1>world is to to bring more love, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>too into people's hearts, you know. I I'm so blessed

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<v Speaker 1>that with my gift I can I can go into

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<v Speaker 1>those places where most people don't, you know, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>touch that. And it's I love that about music. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so beautiful too, you know, to be blessed with that

0:52:16.760 --> 0:52:18.719
<v Speaker 1>gift and you know. I love that. You said you

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<v Speaker 1>went to church for the music, so you must have

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<v Speaker 1>you must have some love for music. I always ask,

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<v Speaker 1>I might ask my my guests. Um, it's do something

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<v Speaker 1>called the Holy five, which is basically, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's five songs on your playlist right now. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>five songs that you, you know, grew up listening to,

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are what would be your Holy five? And

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<v Speaker 1>why oh my God? So well? The first song I

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<v Speaker 1>think of is Bill Withers. Um, He's one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite song ladies, Bill Weathers, Can we pretend? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that song? I'm gonna have to listen to that

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as we get off, so you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>it today. Okay, I'm gonna do that, Bill Weathers, Can

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:03.440
<v Speaker 1>we pretend? Because I love Sundays and that's like my

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday shower. You know Vinyl like Hellove, the Pain is

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Gone and Gone. That song just really makes me feel

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<v Speaker 1>about like just soundtrack to life. Um. I love when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my emotions Chris Stapleton Sometimes I cry, yes, cry,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that song. I just voice is so stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>His voice is crazy, his voice is crazy. I love him. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Miles davis version of Summertime Oh Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>jazz is my favorite genre of music, so I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up listening to like Duke Ellington Miles Davis um,

0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.480
<v Speaker 1>so I just anything Miles. But for me, Summertime it's

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite song, especially because I also loved slave literature,

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<v Speaker 1>so that song definitely makes me think of that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Luther Vandel's Never Too Much because I just feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's my happy song. I feel like every time I

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<v Speaker 1>hear that when it comes to love, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>it's so vulnerable. It sounds on how you feel. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I would say a song it's not by him

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<v Speaker 1>because Jeff Buckley wrote but um Kenny Lattimore's version of

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody Here Wants, Oh Wow, thank you. I'll just chill

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<v Speaker 1>once again. Song I don't Know, Oh my god, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I have so many songs like you don't understand. Music

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<v Speaker 1>is like my other love. We're trading playlist after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes is so good. Please listen to those songs, okay

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<v Speaker 1>and tell me how you felt. Okay, I will. I

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<v Speaker 1>so have enjoyed speaking with you. Thank Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I loved it. You're amazing. I would love to come

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<v Speaker 1>volunteer with what you're doing because it just has so

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<v Speaker 1>moved me, and yeah, I would love to get involved,

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<v Speaker 1>So come to Vegan Burgers with us. I'm down, absolutely

0:55:46.400 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>so nice to meet you. Thank you so much for

0:55:48.640 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>being on here. Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk soon for sure. Thank you. And that wraps

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<v Speaker 1>up this episode of Holy Human. I hope you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>listening to this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd love to hear from you too, so just

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring Maston Kip, a man recognized as a thought leader

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<v Speaker 1>for the next generation. I know you guys are going

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