Speaker 1: Holy Human with Leanne Rhymes is a production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hello, my friends, I am so very happy
Speaker 1: to welcome you to today's show because I am tremendously
Speaker 1: inspired by the woman you're about to meet, activist, filmmaker
Speaker 1: and author, Laria guest Stone. She is here to share
Speaker 1: with us her passionate and practical ideas to bringing more kindness, generosity,
Speaker 1: and love into this very needy world. And she is
Speaker 1: truly someone who walks her talk. I am so pleased
Speaker 1: to have her on today's Holy Humane. Thank Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining me on the Holy Human podcast.
Speaker 1: I am honored. I'm really honored to talk with you. Um.
Speaker 1: I think I'll probably cry during this podcast because your work,
Speaker 1: what you're bringing into this world is so beautiful. And
Speaker 1: you know, I I think I I feel like I
Speaker 1: already know you through reading your book. Um, and I
Speaker 1: think it's just like heart recognizes like heart, and so
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for the work
Speaker 1: you're doing the world. It's it's done. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for having me here. Yeah. Um, look, you've you've
Speaker 1: written a book called Love Without Reason The Art of
Speaker 1: Giving a Fuck, which I think is just a fantastic title,
Speaker 1: and you You've created a nonprofit called lunch on Me
Speaker 1: that feeds everyone on skid wrote organic food on the daily.
Speaker 1: You know, you you have so much going on if
Speaker 1: I feel like you've almost made love your job, like
Speaker 1: that's your time job, which I think is so beautiful.
Speaker 1: If people are just coming upon you for the first time,
Speaker 1: how would you describe what you do to people? Lunch
Speaker 1: on Me are nonprofit love without reason. It's radical philanthropy.
Speaker 1: It's curated, intentional love. It's love for love's sake. You know,
Speaker 1: it's an expression. It's creating a voice in spaces that
Speaker 1: I feel don't always have that, and it's really it's
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. You know. We serve organic, healthy food.
Speaker 1: We've set the bar really high because I kind of
Speaker 1: you love in that way. So everything is in a
Speaker 1: space that it's given the best of the best to everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so beautiful. I love that you say you're giving
Speaker 1: a voice to those who don't have one or are
Speaker 1: unable to use it, because I you know, growing up
Speaker 1: with my voice being my my catalyst, you know, as
Speaker 1: a as a performer, as a singer. Um, it's been
Speaker 1: I think one of my missions in my life has
Speaker 1: been to learn how to utilize my voice not just
Speaker 1: for singing, but for for other purposes like you know,
Speaker 1: this podcast and and giving you know, creating a space
Speaker 1: for community and curiosity and and learning, you know, to
Speaker 1: be better human beings. So you know, I think that
Speaker 1: that voice, it's so important. It's so powerful when we're
Speaker 1: able to to learn to utilize our voices for not
Speaker 1: only ourselves but for the betterment of others. So I
Speaker 1: I really commend you for for that, because that's we
Speaker 1: don't realize what a gift that is. It's the most
Speaker 1: powerful I think, you know, between especially when it's connected
Speaker 1: to our hearts like yours is. Yeah, it's nothing between
Speaker 1: know which I love. I mean I've always found that
Speaker 1: on stage when I sing, But I think I'm really
Speaker 1: starting to learn to utilize that piece of myself. Um,
Speaker 1: just in the world. I think that's that's what uh
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I see you doing. I see
Speaker 1: you this really beautiful living embodiment of of love, not
Speaker 1: just the concept of love, but like the the doing
Speaker 1: and the being in the world. Like love is a verb.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know if love can
Speaker 1: even be defined. I think that I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I don't know if we've
Speaker 1: ever truly defined it, But I would love to hear
Speaker 1: what you since you talk about it so much. What love? What?
Speaker 1: What that definition is for you? Well? When I think
Speaker 1: of love, I think of love without reason, like that's
Speaker 1: the driving force of it. Um. I think that love
Speaker 1: is the most written about thing of all the universe,
Speaker 1: and yet very few hold it. And for me, love
Speaker 1: without reason is loving for love's sake and nothing else,
Speaker 1: and being not attached to any form of an outcome.
Speaker 1: It's an expression. And when I also think of love, um,
Speaker 1: I don't think you define it as one thing outside
Speaker 1: out of being a verb in action, because it's been
Speaker 1: so many different things to so many people. And I
Speaker 1: think that we have to look at two things, what
Speaker 1: love has been to us and what we want it
Speaker 1: to be, And I think that they're very separate, and
Speaker 1: not enough people put an emphasis on curating love, because
Speaker 1: if you define love for only what it's been to
Speaker 1: you and not what you want it to be, I
Speaker 1: think it makes it passive. And I don't think love
Speaker 1: is passive, and I think it needs to be intentional
Speaker 1: and curated and I think that when we move into
Speaker 1: that space and we start looking at it as an action,
Speaker 1: then we can embody it, we can hold it. I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people have got to hold it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's beautiful, so interesting because what love has
Speaker 1: been to you because to so many people we confuse
Speaker 1: love with many other things, pain, abuse. Um, I know
Speaker 1: that you read after reading your book, I know that
Speaker 1: you've experienced that growing up, you know, and and to
Speaker 1: be able to shift into what you want love to be.
Speaker 1: How that's that's so powerful? Can you talk about a
Speaker 1: little bit about what love was to you growing up
Speaker 1: and how that shift occurred. Yeah. I think that I
Speaker 1: was given a gift because I learned what love was
Speaker 1: and what love wasn't at the same time why I
Speaker 1: was developing. So I think that that gave me an
Speaker 1: option to choose. You know, I think I had seen
Speaker 1: the idea of when love is absent, how corrosive it
Speaker 1: can be, and when love is present, how infinite it
Speaker 1: will be. And because I've seen it at the same time,
Speaker 1: and they were both labeled labeled as love because of
Speaker 1: who the lessons were coming from, you know, our families.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of times that's the first place
Speaker 1: we're learning love. And because I learned such contrasting spaces,
Speaker 1: I think very young, five six years old, I understood
Speaker 1: clearly what I felt love was, not just by what
Speaker 1: it was to me, but what I wanted to mean
Speaker 1: and what I wanted to grab take more towards. And
Speaker 1: it really was the light, infinite space, not the scarce
Speaker 1: space space. And again, when people come from whether it's
Speaker 1: any form of abuse or neglect or whatever their experiences,
Speaker 1: I think we have to be very clear in knowing
Speaker 1: that is not love, that is not you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's the absence of love. But you know, sometimes it
Speaker 1: comes in the place that we think. So I think
Speaker 1: it's very important that we know what love is and
Speaker 1: what it isn't. And it starts with even if you
Speaker 1: don't have it, define it for yourself and show up
Speaker 1: as that first Yeah, because I was gonna say, I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think all of us get the
Speaker 1: opportunity to know what it is. We grow up knowing
Speaker 1: what it's not, but we think that we know what
Speaker 1: it is. And so when you're saying to know, you
Speaker 1: gotta you have to know what that love is. I
Speaker 1: don't know if some people even we know where to begin,
Speaker 1: you create it for yourself. I think that's why. I
Speaker 1: think that's why I say love is curated. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're lucky and you're in, you're rare, you get
Speaker 1: to experience its entirety, you know. But if you aren't,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you can't have it. You have to
Speaker 1: create opportunities of love for yourself. And that's what I've
Speaker 1: been very adamant about is if it's not there, don't
Speaker 1: stop there. And you know, when they say be the change,
Speaker 1: be that love, like I believe that's what it's referring to.
Speaker 1: I think that sometimes we hear these ideas and because
Speaker 1: we don't have steps, we get kind of confused. It's
Speaker 1: muddled with what that means and how to implement it.
Speaker 1: But truly um to be able to experience love, you
Speaker 1: decide what it looks like for you and be that.
Speaker 1: Because I also think that sets a tone when I
Speaker 1: think about the dynamics of my life, the people I love,
Speaker 1: the people that are closest to me, I set a tone.
Speaker 1: And I decided I wouldn't love to be infinite for us,
Speaker 1: and so I decided to be that. And it's been that. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: um yeah. I have a have a song that I
Speaker 1: record a long ago called give and it's you know,
Speaker 1: it says, if you want to get loved and give it,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's like you have to. I love
Speaker 1: setting the tone and I love taking that power um
Speaker 1: back for ourselves to be able to to set the tone.
Speaker 1: I know when I walk into spaces, um, especially on
Speaker 1: airplanes because I used to travel all the time. UM,
Speaker 1: so there's something that I would do is sit in
Speaker 1: my seat and then everyone who walked by, I would
Speaker 1: just bless them. I feel like when you bring that
Speaker 1: just consciously, it doesn't have to be you don't have
Speaker 1: to be telling everybody that you're around, like, oh I'm
Speaker 1: blessing you today. You know there you think you're nuts,
Speaker 1: but but it's if you just consciously put yourself in
Speaker 1: that space, like it's it's amazing what what flows out
Speaker 1: of that? What opportunities present themselves in front of you? Uh,
Speaker 1: to be able to give that love to someone else.
Speaker 1: And I think that people feel it, you know. I
Speaker 1: do think love fills up rooms and think that you
Speaker 1: can feel it, so that intention energetically a hundred I
Speaker 1: believe in that That's how I feel too, Like I'll
Speaker 1: go places and I'm like, I hope everyone's good today
Speaker 1: or light and they let things go forgive. You can
Speaker 1: see it in people, you know absolutely, and I God,
Speaker 1: I feel like when you when you've understood pain, when
Speaker 1: you truly have understood pain, you just don't want, I
Speaker 1: know for myself, like I just don't want to see
Speaker 1: people feeling that, Like I just so deeply want people
Speaker 1: to be happy. And yeah, I'm going to kind of
Speaker 1: jump around here a bit because I just flow out
Speaker 1: the conversation. I watched your the trailer for your documentary,
Speaker 1: UM forty three days, and the trailer itself, I watched
Speaker 1: it three times because I was I was so shook
Speaker 1: by it in so many ways. Um because because of
Speaker 1: many reasons, but it just touched my heart so deeply
Speaker 1: because I think, you know that thought of God, I
Speaker 1: don't want to see people in pain, and there's so
Speaker 1: many people in pain. Um. But I there are a
Speaker 1: few things that just caught my attention. The artistry, the
Speaker 1: artistry of these people living on skid row was so incredible,
Speaker 1: and you know, I almost wonder their their imagination. It's
Speaker 1: like you can take everything else from these people, but
Speaker 1: they thought it was so beautiful to see that they
Speaker 1: still had their imagination and their freedom of expression. And
Speaker 1: I sat there and wondered, I'm like, are they closer
Speaker 1: to God than we are? Yes? Yeah, yes, I've seen
Speaker 1: God more than any other place. I felt like being
Speaker 1: in the street that what that is church for me?
Speaker 1: So I didn't see God in church, but I did
Speaker 1: see it there. Yeah. Oh my god. That's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things that you said, um in your book
Speaker 1: was that used that that giving to people is your church.
Speaker 1: And because we we've we've come to I mean I
Speaker 1: grew up, you know, Southern Baptist, and the church was
Speaker 1: somewhere you went on Sunday. It wasn't life like we
Speaker 1: have we we've we grew up thinking or being taught
Speaker 1: that it was in a building, or it was in
Speaker 1: it for a specific moment, reserved for that. It wasn't life.
Speaker 1: And when you start, I mean, I think the biggest
Speaker 1: changes that we're going to see is when people start
Speaker 1: taking church to the streets, church into everyday life where
Speaker 1: you that's your worshiping. Yes, that's what I would say,
Speaker 1: is like what I do and what I'm giving that
Speaker 1: is my tithing, Like that is how I tie you know,
Speaker 1: I am not just doing in church, but of course,
Speaker 1: like I love, I was the church for the music.
Speaker 1: So but I definitely found the experiences I read biblically,
Speaker 1: like the things that felt unearthly angelic I've seen in
Speaker 1: the streets, and that's when I started to connect the
Speaker 1: dots for me. Wow, talk to me about a little
Speaker 1: bit about your documentary and what that experience was like.
Speaker 1: Because you were you were really close to your grandmother
Speaker 1: after she passed away. This was some Then you threw
Speaker 1: your broken heart into was your documentary, and most people
Speaker 1: wouldn't even think to go down to skid Row to
Speaker 1: even walk around in that area. And here you are,
Speaker 1: you know, going to live amongst the people that you serve,
Speaker 1: which I think is so beautiful to really truly understand
Speaker 1: what their life is like. How did that shift? First
Speaker 1: of all, how did that shift your broken heart? And
Speaker 1: how did that shift the way that you see life? Well,
Speaker 1: I I went to skid Row because when my grandmother
Speaker 1: I passed um. I mean I always knew that that
Speaker 1: would be the hardest moment of my life for sure,
Speaker 1: Like I always knew that like being with her. I
Speaker 1: missed her when I was next to her, you know,
Speaker 1: I knew that, and so I prayed and I heard
Speaker 1: her voice. I heard her. I heard her say go
Speaker 1: to skid Row, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: what else do I have to lose? You know, I
Speaker 1: would do this. And then I was like I had
Speaker 1: already wanted to, Like there were a lot of super
Speaker 1: natural things that her that just pointed me to that space.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, what better time my heart?
Speaker 1: It was like I've always worked and been so goal
Speaker 1: oriented and working that my heart was so broken. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to do anything else. Like I was just
Speaker 1: like I knew I had time. You know. It was
Speaker 1: the first time I felt that where my heart was into.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, this is the time
Speaker 1: to go down there. And when I went there, I
Speaker 1: thought like, UM, make use of myself. The day my
Speaker 1: grandmother passed away, I was throwing a party on skit
Speaker 1: Row and so and so I was already you know,
Speaker 1: that had happened right shortly before UM. I heard her
Speaker 1: take her last breath and then my party started. So
Speaker 1: it was already I was already in that space when
Speaker 1: she transitioned, and UM so I was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go there and I'm gonna be of service. Like
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not the type of person I can
Speaker 1: sit in my room and be depressed. There's life, you know,
Speaker 1: life goes on. So I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I can go help people and and we'll see. And
Speaker 1: so I decided to do it then. And I literally
Speaker 1: thought I was go in there to just be of
Speaker 1: service and to help everyone else, but they helped me.
Speaker 1: So I think it was the first time I realized
Speaker 1: like that was the only place that I could that
Speaker 1: could have cured um my heart, because I think that
Speaker 1: the message my grandmother was sinding me is nothing's ever lost.
Speaker 1: It's just redirected and replaced. And the love that you
Speaker 1: seek here is also all around you. And so I
Speaker 1: learned that. Um, I learned that in that moment, that
Speaker 1: like love is never lost. So I thought it was
Speaker 1: a lost but it was a redirection of energy. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Um I don't find it. I mean I
Speaker 1: don't find it ironic. I think it's beautiful that you
Speaker 1: were throwing a party on skid row at the moment
Speaker 1: you know, your grandmother passed away. I mean, you know
Speaker 1: you have said I see your heart so deeply, and
Speaker 1: so it's such a beautiful heart. You know, you said
Speaker 1: how much your grandmother like taught you about love, and
Speaker 1: then here you are, here, you are just basically living
Speaker 1: out everything that she taught you. That my that she passed,
Speaker 1: and that's just like, yeah, I definitely it was weird
Speaker 1: because I like lost sound like I just remember hearing
Speaker 1: her last breath and I just couldn't hear anything and
Speaker 1: I just see like hundreds of flowers and balloons like
Speaker 1: going and I was just like God hooked in the
Speaker 1: space to not be sad. You know, this is like
Speaker 1: a celebration, and it was one of those like I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I thought this was the time you
Speaker 1: go into the dark place. In my mind, it was
Speaker 1: this idea of like, for the first time in my life,
Speaker 1: maybe I can be in a dark place, and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't because it's just so beautiful. Bless bless her
Speaker 1: like that is just yeah, bless her first for showing
Speaker 1: you what love is, because she is truly an angel
Speaker 1: who is you know, paved the way for everything that
Speaker 1: you're doing in every life that you're touching. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: in your documentary there was there was this this man
Speaker 1: who said something so profound and I kept rewinding it
Speaker 1: back to watch it, and it is, Um, I am
Speaker 1: not what you think of me. Seek for me, and indecency,
Speaker 1: find me there in my dignity. Speak to me peacefully. Oh,
Speaker 1: my soul is involved. And it just breaks my heart
Speaker 1: because our souls are involved, like no matter what, no
Speaker 1: matter where we are in this world, no matter what
Speaker 1: hardship has come to us. Um, we we are. We
Speaker 1: might be homeless, but we're not soulless. And God, that
Speaker 1: just killed me. And it just reminded me, like you know,
Speaker 1: it just reminds me that that could be any of us.
Speaker 1: That could be any of us. Gabe, I love. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his name is Gabe. Oh my god, I love that
Speaker 1: his name is Gabe. My Um. I had a friend
Speaker 1: who passed last year from diabetes, very young, and he
Speaker 1: didn't know he had it and so he was sick
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden passed away. Um. And his
Speaker 1: name was Gabe, and so you just reminded me of him.
Speaker 1: He's like my little angel and schedrole for sure. I
Speaker 1: love him. You have no idea. He's like the most
Speaker 1: gifted lyricist I've ever seen, Yeah, I mean, that's what's
Speaker 1: so beautiful. I mean, I know I've seen. You know,
Speaker 1: I started singing. My dad has tapes me singing when
Speaker 1: I was eighteen months old. Like I mean, I could
Speaker 1: you couldn't understand the word I was saying, but I was.
Speaker 1: When I sang, it was so it was so real
Speaker 1: and um, even from that young of an age, and
Speaker 1: I as I've grown older, I've recognized how much art was. Um,
Speaker 1: it was my my soul's way of you know, of
Speaker 1: speaking in this world and places and expressing in places
Speaker 1: where I didn't feel like I could express other places
Speaker 1: in my life. Like I always joke, you know, if
Speaker 1: I could sing my life, everything would be perfect because
Speaker 1: that she feels like the most honest expression. Um. Sometimes
Speaker 1: when you know you speak, like sometimes it just doesn't
Speaker 1: come through. And when I saw the documentary trailer, I
Speaker 1: was just blown away because it's it just makes you
Speaker 1: realize how much art is used to soothe. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a soothing save to life's pain. And and in
Speaker 1: the imagination, you know, being so close to God when
Speaker 1: we are in that form of creation and imagination and
Speaker 1: the fact that that has not the fact that they
Speaker 1: go to that so often they're to express is um,
Speaker 1: it's just powerful, it is. I definitely think yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's unearthly like the things I've seen
Speaker 1: and experience with them, like just so many street angels,
Speaker 1: like it's insane and we call them, let me call
Speaker 1: them street angels. It's so good they did come street angels.
Speaker 1: Street definitely, Um, yeah, you see that. And I think that,
Speaker 1: I mean, even just the most profound lessons. I always
Speaker 1: say that God sends us profits to skit role for training,
Speaker 1: and I see it, you know, I see it like
Speaker 1: the messages, the wisdom, the deep understanding like their understanding
Speaker 1: of like life and humanity and how we fall short,
Speaker 1: and the grace that they have, like how they're treated
Speaker 1: it's and how they still rise above. It's beyond me,
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy. It's it's it's something I've seen nowhere else.
Speaker 1: And on that powerful note, we're going to take a
Speaker 1: very quick pause, but we'll be right back with more
Speaker 1: wisdom and insight from Laray Gaston. Welcome back, Loves, and
Speaker 1: we were just discussing the incredibly profound intersection between scarcity
Speaker 1: and the sacred. It's amazing. I think when we have
Speaker 1: things as you look when things are too completely taken
Speaker 1: away from you, like where where the soul goes and
Speaker 1: where the the freedom that it starts to find? And
Speaker 1: it's you know, I always look around all the things
Speaker 1: that we have and here we are. You know, all
Speaker 1: we're focused on is you know, continuing to have those things,
Speaker 1: you know, and make to make sure we don't lose
Speaker 1: that because now we have this sense of like you know,
Speaker 1: this this sense of safety that um that we continue
Speaker 1: to try to to uh to keep that up, and
Speaker 1: that's that becomes our that becomes our drive and our hustle.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's liberating. Like I stayed in It's
Speaker 1: for forty three days with nothing in it. You know,
Speaker 1: there's a yoga mat and a sheet and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna liry Like the simplicity of just having like my
Speaker 1: little backpack and nothing else. Now money, nothing, and and
Speaker 1: just even the resources I had were dependent on there's generosity.
Speaker 1: So even to see that like oh I don't have
Speaker 1: water today, but you know in an hour someone will
Speaker 1: come from a church or a nonprofit or whatever and
Speaker 1: show up to help. You know, it was. That part
Speaker 1: was very liberating, Like I'm not gonna lie. The simplicity
Speaker 1: of like not having stuff, not accumulating things, not hoarding
Speaker 1: like it was, it was, that was my favorite part
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean talk about trusting the universe, I
Speaker 1: mean you have to. You're talking like moment to moment,
Speaker 1: being in the moment and trusting that what is your
Speaker 1: needs will be provided for. I mean we we hear
Speaker 1: that all the time, you know, like, oh, you know
Speaker 1: the universe will provide for you, Like sure, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's hard to wrap your mind around that. But
Speaker 1: when you're in that kind of situation, like your basic needs,
Speaker 1: you are moment to moment trusting that those will be
Speaker 1: provided for. Yeah. You I think you definitely in those
Speaker 1: spaces you kind of have to master faith, right because
Speaker 1: there's nothing to grab onto, so you don't have a choice.
Speaker 1: You can only hope for the best. And a lot
Speaker 1: of times, I mean I definitely can say all my
Speaker 1: needs were Matt, and I can say that with all
Speaker 1: the time. The universe is definitely answering. Yeah you say, um,
Speaker 1: one of the I think this is really powerful. One
Speaker 1: of the stories that you tell about you know, you
Speaker 1: like you just said you didn't have money when you
Speaker 1: were down there, you went with no money and the
Speaker 1: panhandling of you know, of asking for money. What was
Speaker 1: I would love for you to share that experience because
Speaker 1: I think it's so powerful. That experience is the reason
Speaker 1: I wrote my book it well, yeah, I was so
Speaker 1: that Okay for one, just it helping in a community
Speaker 1: that's without resources and those things is one thing. When
Speaker 1: you experience their walk and what they have to go through,
Speaker 1: it is so eye opening, and not even from the
Speaker 1: space of like them, but us, like people in the
Speaker 1: house community, you know, like people having so much and
Speaker 1: giving so little but deeming themselves good people. And I
Speaker 1: it's it's almost like imaginative. I don't know where it
Speaker 1: comes from, like where these ideas come from, because I
Speaker 1: do believe it is actions. And to be in a
Speaker 1: space where I really thought, like in my mind, I
Speaker 1: was like I can come up with twenty four dollars,
Speaker 1: Like I felt like I was like if someone because
Speaker 1: in my head I really thought humans, I'm like, if
Speaker 1: we're humble enough to um share our vulnerability and really
Speaker 1: ask for a need, if you stoop low enough to
Speaker 1: be that humble right where you're just like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm burying what I need that you would think
Speaker 1: that humans were so good that we wouldn't allow needs
Speaker 1: to go and met for someone that's even walking in humility.
Speaker 1: So in my head, I'm like, okay, like I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna tell them. And then also I thought about not
Speaker 1: just that, I'm like, you know, people have reasons why
Speaker 1: they don't give, they have a problem with addiction, all
Speaker 1: these things, and I'm like, I'm clearly centered and sound
Speaker 1: mind in writing, and I just need help. And the
Speaker 1: fact that no one helped me. Literally I saw five
Speaker 1: six people in a day. I kept asking everyone told
Speaker 1: him what I was doing. I needed twenty four dollars
Speaker 1: for tarps. It's going to rain, something I never thought
Speaker 1: about because you don't even think about that in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: So the day of course I'm there, it rains, and
Speaker 1: and everyone said no, like the level of resistance, like
Speaker 1: the blocks I saw on people's hearts, on their humanity,
Speaker 1: when I say, I was so shattered. I went through
Speaker 1: every range of emotions. I was angry at humanity. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understood why people when I'm like when people are
Speaker 1: screaming in the street, said I can understand when you
Speaker 1: get to the point where you're just like I'm hurting,
Speaker 1: I'm without what I'm asking for. You lose like you know,
Speaker 1: you'll lose in your laundry, like it's something you would
Speaker 1: never even miss. The level of the energy that went
Speaker 1: into resisting helping was the part that I was just shot.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that people and maybe I'm far removed
Speaker 1: because I don't live in that way at all, But
Speaker 1: the problem is the majority speaks for what's going on.
Speaker 1: So it's like it doesn't matter that I've you know,
Speaker 1: I'm the aunt going left. It's like, where's everyone else going?
Speaker 1: And I was so hurt because we don't help. I
Speaker 1: realized how far removed people are from their hearts, and
Speaker 1: that to me is so taxing on our soul. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't just you know, just like it wasn't just
Speaker 1: that they didn't help me, but it's like, what do
Speaker 1: you think that's chip, chip chipping away at for your
Speaker 1: own self? Yeah, Well, it's so interesting that you said,
Speaker 1: you know, the vulnerability piece and needs, because I don't
Speaker 1: know if most of humanity is even in touch with
Speaker 1: what their needs are themselves and their own vulnerability and
Speaker 1: so to even ask for I mean, I you know,
Speaker 1: I talk a lot about mental health because I've dealt
Speaker 1: with it my whole life, and um, you know, just
Speaker 1: the stigma like an asking for help when we are
Speaker 1: in when we are suffering. I mean we're just now
Speaker 1: starting to break that down. And so if you really
Speaker 1: think about it, like most people aren't in touch with
Speaker 1: needs and to see someone else asking, it's almost like
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if it's like hits this like
Speaker 1: core shame in all of us that we just wall
Speaker 1: we just wall ourselves up and they're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to look at that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with that because I have to
Speaker 1: touch on me the places that are hard to touch.
Speaker 1: And I mean that's the problem. Nothing should be in
Speaker 1: between us and our hearts. Nothing. Yeah, you know, it
Speaker 1: shouldn't be accepted. And it's one of those like I
Speaker 1: understand it, but I don't accept it, yeah, completely. And
Speaker 1: it's like that's where we have to do the inner
Speaker 1: work because when I see that the only two people
Speaker 1: that helped me were homeless, and so I think the
Speaker 1: worst part was like I'm getting upset and I'm like,
Speaker 1: go sit down and a corner because I'm like, humans
Speaker 1: are really hurting my feelings right now. So I'm in
Speaker 1: a space where I'm like, Okay, I gotta I like,
Speaker 1: I literally tell myself I have to center myself because
Speaker 1: I'm like if I can't respond in a place of love,
Speaker 1: like I had to focus because I'm getting a little snappy,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little upset. So I'm like literally put
Speaker 1: my little sad looking love without reason box. I have
Speaker 1: a little box that I made myself that literally said
Speaker 1: love with that reason. I hopefully people don't understand. Like
Speaker 1: just to get I put my box down. My head's
Speaker 1: down because I'm trying to center myself, and then like
Speaker 1: change just drops in my in my box. And when
Speaker 1: it happened, like that change was so much bigger than
Speaker 1: pocket change. It was a restoration of humanity, the idea
Speaker 1: of like someone didn't let me down. And when I look,
Speaker 1: it's he looks like a retired war vet. He's scooting
Speaker 1: away and he just like puts the change in. He
Speaker 1: just just going and I just like start crying. I
Speaker 1: can't even move, Like I'm literally like paralyzed. I can't
Speaker 1: even move because I can't believe it's street ham. I
Speaker 1: can't believe the person that shows up for me is
Speaker 1: the person who has nothing. And so my friend that
Speaker 1: was fielming, this was we were doing this all when
Speaker 1: we were on skin roll. My friend Nima that was filming.
Speaker 1: He's like far away, like filming in the cut, and
Speaker 1: I'm like telling him. I'm like crying. I'm like, go
Speaker 1: get that guy, like you'll get him, because in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like I can't take a change. I don't even care,
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna be in the rain, Like I just
Speaker 1: can't take this man's money, you know. And so Nema
Speaker 1: grabs him and ask him like why did you get
Speaker 1: to her? And he's like because I've been there so
Speaker 1: many times. It's like I know that. And he like
Speaker 1: gives me hug and he goes it's gonna be okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm crying. So he just I can't even get
Speaker 1: the words out. So he thinks I'm crying because I'm upset,
Speaker 1: but I'm crying because I can't believe that he would.
Speaker 1: I can't believe his spirit, you know. I'm just like done.
Speaker 1: And so I tell him and and it was just
Speaker 1: he connected. There was nothing, and there was nothing in
Speaker 1: front of his heart. Nothing. You know, what do you
Speaker 1: think is stunting us from that growth? What do you
Speaker 1: think is the is the thing that is keeping us
Speaker 1: from getting in touch with that deeper place in ours?
Speaker 1: It's discipline. I think that the problem is anything we
Speaker 1: want to master, anything we want to be great at,
Speaker 1: comes with a discipline. And I think that we need
Speaker 1: to look at love, our vulnerability, our relationships itself. It's
Speaker 1: a discipline. You don't magically get there. I think again,
Speaker 1: it's all intentional, you know, And I think that we
Speaker 1: don't put that same time. If I want to be loving,
Speaker 1: if I want to be forgiving, if I want to
Speaker 1: be vulnerable, I better have a blue plan for that,
Speaker 1: you know, a day to day discipline and action. What
Speaker 1: is going on with the racing, just like what's happening.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're in agreeance with us. They just want to
Speaker 1: be They just want to be a part of our conversation.
Speaker 1: So that's I agree. And so I think that it
Speaker 1: is a discipline, and I think that that's what's getting
Speaker 1: in our way ourselves, because we are not prioritizing those things.
Speaker 1: Everything else is important. But but the thing is what
Speaker 1: makes that so important? Is the more we grow, the
Speaker 1: more we become better. Everyone around us benefits from it.
Speaker 1: Every interaction benefits from it. It's like when we grow,
Speaker 1: not just for ourselves, but to navigate in a lighter,
Speaker 1: more healthy way. You know, the world is benefiting from
Speaker 1: that space, that growth, mastering those things. And so I
Speaker 1: think that's that's a part of the core issue. We
Speaker 1: have to curate things. We have to make it intentional,
Speaker 1: all of it. Yeah, I mean, I your yeah, intentions
Speaker 1: such a huge piece of that. And I I know
Speaker 1: for my own self, my own experience, Like I know
Speaker 1: when my heart's closed, you know, And I know what
Speaker 1: that feels like, and it's painful. It's painful, and I've
Speaker 1: walked around living like that a lot of my life,
Speaker 1: you know. And I and then I know in my
Speaker 1: heart's open and the freedom and that and the joy
Speaker 1: and that and and I You're right about the intention
Speaker 1: and the discipline, because something can happen, whatever it may be,
Speaker 1: that trigger is and instantly like our hearts closed, and
Speaker 1: I can, I mean, I can walk around in that
Speaker 1: space for a while without if I'm not intentional and
Speaker 1: aware of it, you know, uh, to be able to
Speaker 1: you know, I get lost in that space again, basically
Speaker 1: it's your It's almost like it's our default setting. Right,
Speaker 1: So in us you're unless you're aware, unless you have
Speaker 1: practices that are cultive. You're cultivating um to bring us
Speaker 1: back into our heart space. There's it's so easy just
Speaker 1: to get lost. Yeah, And the more you practice, I
Speaker 1: think what happens is like practice habits um. You know
Speaker 1: that discipline, it eventually becomes innate. So when once you've
Speaker 1: practiced being open more than you have being closed, that
Speaker 1: becomes your default setting. But you have to recognize you
Speaker 1: have to get there. Yeah, you know you don't. You
Speaker 1: gotta get there. You gotta put the miles in, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's important. I think that to be loving,
Speaker 1: to be patient, I have to practice patience. To have
Speaker 1: deep understanding, I have to seek understand like those are
Speaker 1: things that we I do believe we have to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am in the morning. I I love a course
Speaker 1: in Miracles. I know you you've quoted some of that
Speaker 1: in your book, UM, and I think that it's such
Speaker 1: a beautiful book. And I pray one of my favorite
Speaker 1: prayers in the in the courses, where would you have
Speaker 1: me go? What would you have me do what would
Speaker 1: you have me say? Into whom? And every morning when
Speaker 1: I wake up, it's the first thing that I pray,
Speaker 1: and it's it's the to me. It's my way of
Speaker 1: putting my mind and my my vessel into the into
Speaker 1: being a walking miracle. I you know, I always think
Speaker 1: that we always ask for our prayers to be answered,
Speaker 1: but we forget to be We forget that we can
Speaker 1: be the answer to someone else's prayers. We forget that
Speaker 1: we can be used and utilized in that way. You know,
Speaker 1: what are what are some of them? That's that's kind
Speaker 1: of my way of getting in touch with it in
Speaker 1: the morning. First thing, What are what are some of
Speaker 1: your ways that you you know, can that you get
Speaker 1: connected with it. I mean, I feel like now you're
Speaker 1: just like a walking You're like you don't even need
Speaker 1: to be connected with that, you just all the time.
Speaker 1: But I feel like, you know, maybe other people are like,
Speaker 1: you know, how do I how do I continue or
Speaker 1: how do I start my day? Or you know, stay
Speaker 1: connected to that mindset of giving an openness. Well, I
Speaker 1: think it starts well, I think it starts with micro gestures.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like how um I like to
Speaker 1: articulate it. For me, it's those acts have to have
Speaker 1: have to happen every day. So for me to create
Speaker 1: a habit or to make something innate, I have to
Speaker 1: do it every day. Doesn't take much time. Um, but
Speaker 1: one of the things I like to do. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's simple, but it's the curating experiences, curating love, whether
Speaker 1: it's putting your phone down with you when you're with
Speaker 1: people you love and giving you your undivided attention. It's
Speaker 1: getting into a space where we recognize, for one, we
Speaker 1: have to be present to even do these things, you
Speaker 1: have to be present, you know. And that's Buddhist philosophy.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of different things being grounded U. So
Speaker 1: being present is one of the first things I do.
Speaker 1: I can't be that miracle or curate that love if
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's in front of me. And
Speaker 1: a lot of times I think my focus has always
Speaker 1: been to train my mind. Like Michael jesters are important
Speaker 1: because you train your mind to find the opportunities where
Speaker 1: you can do good. When I'm at a coffee shop,
Speaker 1: I order coffee, whoever is behind me, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: can you put your order on my tab? I want
Speaker 1: to buy you coffee. It doesn't matter who it is,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you know, it's one of the
Speaker 1: things I like to do. And that's such a super quick,
Speaker 1: curated love moment because everyone it's it's simple. Everyone likes
Speaker 1: to feel loved, nurtured, taking care of scene and that
Speaker 1: simple thing. It doesn't matter where you sit financially, if
Speaker 1: you have a lot of you have a little someone
Speaker 1: doing that for you. It's it's the energy and intention
Speaker 1: of someone just wanting to love on you and be kind.
Speaker 1: And so those are small things I do. You know,
Speaker 1: I keep five dollars in my bag because sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't have time to grab food for someone. You know,
Speaker 1: it might be street fan that's like, hey can you
Speaker 1: grab me? And I'm like, tear take this money, go
Speaker 1: get it like or if I have time, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: come in the store with me and order whatever you want.
Speaker 1: But um, I'm very intentional about how I walk this
Speaker 1: world and what my interactions can be and always showing
Speaker 1: up for people. And of course I'm still learning so
Speaker 1: much when it comes to these things. The same things
Speaker 1: that I've written about, I've had to implement every day
Speaker 1: and learn that those are the things that that become
Speaker 1: better and better and easier. But I think it starts small,
Speaker 1: and I think it doesn't start with the love we
Speaker 1: reserve for our families. They already have that. I'm there's
Speaker 1: a whole world around us that could use that same love.
Speaker 1: I believe there isn't a place love shouldn't be or
Speaker 1: should occupy. And I think that again, those are the
Speaker 1: intentions and it's all small acts. I don't think that.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we think of this like grand gesture, this big thing,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a collection of what we do daily.
Speaker 1: I think that's what changes everything, because those are the interactions.
Speaker 1: We focus so much on what's next, but what's in
Speaker 1: front of us? Is there something I can do for
Speaker 1: the person in front? I mean, I think that's also
Speaker 1: has to do with developing being attentive. I'm very attentive
Speaker 1: to everyone around me, their needs, their wants, ways I
Speaker 1: can you know, sometimes when you like how you said,
Speaker 1: people don't know what they want. Sometimes we gotta show them.
Speaker 1: Everyone wants love, that wants attention, you know, and and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, you know, it's good. Like Collie Griban
Speaker 1: says in Um one of his poems, it's good to
Speaker 1: give one asked, it's better to give unasked the understanding,
Speaker 1: And I believe in that, you know, that's the attentiveness
Speaker 1: that needs to happen, you know, because you're seeking to
Speaker 1: have a deeper understanding in a better way to serve
Speaker 1: that What what you kind of touched upon this briefly,
Speaker 1: But what are some of the biggest misticanceptions when it
Speaker 1: comes to giving that you come in contact with. I
Speaker 1: think that, well, there's two things, and I talked about
Speaker 1: that in the book. I think that when it comes
Speaker 1: to giving, we come there's only two places. I think
Speaker 1: we pull from um a mindset of abundance or a
Speaker 1: mindset of a scarcity. So I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times you have one giver who gives because they feel
Speaker 1: it's an infinite thing, you know, it's just like an
Speaker 1: infinity sign. It's always going to be a cycle. And
Speaker 1: then you have a person that believes if they give,
Speaker 1: they'll never have enough for themselves. And I think that
Speaker 1: you have to think about those things giving, which one
Speaker 1: could which one would contribute to our happiness, you know,
Speaker 1: and which one is more taxing to the soul. And
Speaker 1: I think that starting before people even give, that's I
Speaker 1: feel like those are the two mindsets that I hear
Speaker 1: from people. And I think that when people come from
Speaker 1: the space of scarcity has nothing to do with how
Speaker 1: much they have. It has to do with their mindset
Speaker 1: about what they have. You know, some of the origins
Speaker 1: people I know operate from the place of scarcity, and
Speaker 1: some of the poorest people I know, financially poor, operate
Speaker 1: from abundance that there will always be for everyone. So
Speaker 1: I think that to give, we also have to know
Speaker 1: where we're pulling from, because sometimes people give from that scarcity,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how holy that is. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's coming from a high energetic place and
Speaker 1: if that's even fulfilling or they feel like they're just
Speaker 1: they're just it's almost like an ego need. Like you
Speaker 1: said earlier, they call themselves good people. So if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call myself a good person, that now it might
Speaker 1: have to give every once in a while, and it's important.
Speaker 1: I know you touched upon this too, like the energetics
Speaker 1: of giving is as important, if not more important, than
Speaker 1: they give itself. Yeah, and it's just an expression of freedom.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like when we give, it feels if
Speaker 1: you get past yourself and that ecospace and all that.
Speaker 1: It's so innate to us. Like you see children on
Speaker 1: the playground, they don't they don't give or share to
Speaker 1: be good. It's literally innate to them, you know. That's
Speaker 1: why kids want to play, and it's it's obviously a
Speaker 1: completely different interaction than adults have, but if you see it,
Speaker 1: it's just it just seems more natural to us to give,
Speaker 1: to share, to coexist in harmony. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's where we also have to pull from, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to giving. It does feel amazing energetically when
Speaker 1: you get past your own self and all your defenses,
Speaker 1: because we can articulate every single reason why we don't
Speaker 1: want to give. But I think if we just limit down,
Speaker 1: does that feel good to you? Like we're inside of you?
Speaker 1: Does that feel good? Because there's so much energy that
Speaker 1: goes into stopping ourselves from giving when it's like, no,
Speaker 1: just give because you can and do it with joy,
Speaker 1: you know, And I feel like that's important. There's nothing
Speaker 1: too big and too small. I think it's the energy
Speaker 1: that's present in it. Find buying someone's coffee, it's with
Speaker 1: my whole heart, you know. It's like I'm buying up
Speaker 1: the bar. Pick whatever you wanted, the menu, you want
Speaker 1: almond milk, you got it. It's just from the it's
Speaker 1: just from that space of like I just want to
Speaker 1: be good to you. And this is where we're going
Speaker 1: to take a quick break for just a minute. But
Speaker 1: I promise Morgan this as soon as we return. Welcome
Speaker 1: back everyone. Laria and I were just discussing how truly
Speaker 1: in our nature it is to be generous. It's so interesting.
Speaker 1: I had this huge epiphany the other day about anxiety
Speaker 1: for myself and I was like, some of the some
Speaker 1: of the greatest anxiety for me is when I recognize
Speaker 1: that I am closing myself down and that I am,
Speaker 1: like you said, it takes so much energy, so much
Speaker 1: energy too to protect ourselves, you know. And and when
Speaker 1: that love flows like there's God you're talking, you know,
Speaker 1: there there is freedom. That is freedom is to allow
Speaker 1: you know, that love to flow outward um effortlessly and
Speaker 1: without expectation. I think that expectation pieces such a huge thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: an expectation, you know, a lot of us are afraid,
Speaker 1: you know, to get taken advantage of and we think
Speaker 1: that you know, you're talking about being attentive to people,
Speaker 1: and hear so much about like this codependent society. We
Speaker 1: can't be codependent, we can't like and I almost feel
Speaker 1: like it almost stops us from from being attentive, you know,
Speaker 1: all of all of these things you're talking about, Like,
Speaker 1: it's just so easy for It's so easy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: so easy for us to spire. Absolutely, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it really is. It just it's become our habit.
Speaker 1: It's becomes it is. And like when you when you
Speaker 1: brought up anxiety, the first thing I thought was, that's
Speaker 1: your soul giving you an alarm for your actions being betrayal.
Speaker 1: I think it's a betrayal and I think that our
Speaker 1: souls trying to get our intention. So I definitely think
Speaker 1: that that's what that's connected to. I feel like the
Speaker 1: less we betray ourselves, a less anxiety will hold. Um.
Speaker 1: I also think that when we come from the space
Speaker 1: of being taken advantage of, we come from the space
Speaker 1: of scarcity. M hmm. That's so. And it's one of
Speaker 1: those so what so what if your love isn't used,
Speaker 1: does that mean you shouldn't put it somewhere? Should it
Speaker 1: just stay inside of you? It's about love being expression
Speaker 1: of verbs, and we are full of love and it
Speaker 1: needs a place to go. Yes, it's energy, and that's
Speaker 1: like when it's not used, it's like I feel like
Speaker 1: needs again, that's why you have to be So that's
Speaker 1: why I believe, Like like I said, the definition of
Speaker 1: love without reason is not being attached to the outcome
Speaker 1: to love for love sake and nothing else. Because you
Speaker 1: have love and it needs somewhere to go, and you
Speaker 1: can only hope. I hope how the things I do that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, they will see the light of day or
Speaker 1: someone will hold it in the same expression as me.
Speaker 1: But that does not take away for me wanting to
Speaker 1: show up and give love. And a lot of times
Speaker 1: when people don't hold the love that I want to
Speaker 1: give them, I hurt for them because I know I
Speaker 1: can see the guard between them and their heart. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like there's a quote that says, you build wall
Speaker 1: so tall you can't even climb them, and that hurts
Speaker 1: because I see the pain. I've never met someone who
Speaker 1: was guarded, who was just filled with joy. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that, you know. And so sometimes when my love
Speaker 1: is rejected or misunderstood, I have pain for them because
Speaker 1: I'm holding a gift that they can't even see because
Speaker 1: they put so many things in front of their heart,
Speaker 1: you know, and so a lot of times we can
Speaker 1: have sympathy. It's like the idea that um, I don't
Speaker 1: know who said it was someone it was Mariann Williamson
Speaker 1: where she said anything that's not of love as a
Speaker 1: cry out for love, and so it's like sometimes it's
Speaker 1: foreign or one thing I had to learn was when
Speaker 1: our love can be viewed as not um as as
Speaker 1: not being used or taking advantage. Sometimes it's a foreign
Speaker 1: thing and it's a first encounter. Sometimes you don't even
Speaker 1: know what to do with it because you've never seen
Speaker 1: it before. Absolutely, So it's like just what I've learned
Speaker 1: is when I've been foreign to people, giving up robs
Speaker 1: me of the joy. Because even with Street fam, you know,
Speaker 1: there were people that I met where I was there
Speaker 1: first encounter of love, but my consistency broke the barriers.
Speaker 1: Leve will break through anything. Leve will break through anything.
Speaker 1: But I think that's where the idea of like love
Speaker 1: being patient is so important and also coming from the
Speaker 1: space when I'm rejected. I kind of like it, like
Speaker 1: Loki it's kind of turned into especially on skin Row
Speaker 1: and like dealing with my street fan and strangers. I
Speaker 1: really like it because I helped them work through those
Speaker 1: barriers because I know that the person that gives me
Speaker 1: the hardest time is the most loving. Like I have
Speaker 1: a guy that's just, oh my god. He he used
Speaker 1: to be a nightmare. He used to be such a
Speaker 1: nightmare and so mean to me. And I would always
Speaker 1: tell him, it's okay, I'll see you tomorrow. I'm trying tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And I would constantly do it, and I would just
Speaker 1: bother him to the to the point where like now
Speaker 1: he can't leave without hugging me, and like and he
Speaker 1: won't let go. And he's like this big tough guy
Speaker 1: that like cusses war again, another war vet working a
Speaker 1: lot of vets and so and older guys. And now
Speaker 1: it's like we there's a part of his heart that
Speaker 1: just he's reserved for us. And it's so beautiful to
Speaker 1: see because but it wouldn't have happened. I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: carried out the action of love through patients and consistency.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, it's okay. And again that that
Speaker 1: comes with deep understanding that what he's doing. His rejection
Speaker 1: wasn't to me. He was rejecting his own self, you know.
Speaker 1: And so like when you look at that, then it's like, no,
Speaker 1: they can't take advantage of you. They're actually hurting themselves.
Speaker 1: And that's what we need to get through. Like when
Speaker 1: I saw like those moments, I'm telling you, the hard ones,
Speaker 1: the bad apples, like those are the ones that are
Speaker 1: the most golden, the most golden, the four agreements basically
Speaker 1: like one of them, you know, don't take anything personally
Speaker 1: and that's that's it. No, Yeah, I really don't. Like
Speaker 1: I just have conversations by myself. I'm just like it's okay,
Speaker 1: I'll knock on the heart. I'll nock on the door
Speaker 1: of your heart again tomorrow. I'll go this again. Or
Speaker 1: even like certain people like my attorney is not She
Speaker 1: wasn't the softest person when I met her, and I
Speaker 1: was with her yesterday and um, I was just like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hug you now, and she's just like sitting
Speaker 1: there and I just put my arms around her shoulder
Speaker 1: and I hold her a little longer like where it
Speaker 1: was probably uncomfortable for her, and I just feel her
Speaker 1: like melt you know, even though there's like all these cards,
Speaker 1: you know, she's been an l A attorney for so
Speaker 1: long as all these cards, and I'm just like, I
Speaker 1: love that because I know that that love or those
Speaker 1: barriers like there's a place for it to go. And
Speaker 1: I think that we also have to work with each
Speaker 1: other and be kind and patient and understanding that we
Speaker 1: are trying to figure it out. And when someone knows
Speaker 1: or has a little more experience in something, then you know,
Speaker 1: you curate it, you set the tone right. I would
Speaker 1: love for you to tell talk to everyone about the
Speaker 1: three bees because that's I think so important. Will you
Speaker 1: walk me through what those are? Yeah? So um when
Speaker 1: writing out like Michael gestures and things that I think
Speaker 1: they're very important what we're doing, of course, being mindful,
Speaker 1: intentional and generous. Um. The reason that those things are
Speaker 1: important to me is, for one, generous because so many people,
Speaker 1: like my experience with trying to get twenty four dollars,
Speaker 1: people are not generous. And that's something I think that
Speaker 1: we all have to work on because if we want
Speaker 1: to be good people, or if we even if we
Speaker 1: believe in this trend of gratitude, that's an action and
Speaker 1: so it's like, you're gonna have to be generous. Like
Speaker 1: that is the action of like if I'm going to
Speaker 1: be grateful, I have to act gratefully And a lot
Speaker 1: of that has to do with like give the and
Speaker 1: that's what generosity says. And then just being mindful. I
Speaker 1: think the reason that is so important is we think
Speaker 1: ourselves out of half the things we won't do before
Speaker 1: we even get to a point of action, like you said,
Speaker 1: like when we talked about the spiral, like the the
Speaker 1: idea of the spiral, it's like, before we even get
Speaker 1: a chance to do something, even if it's being vulnerable,
Speaker 1: what do we do Half the time we don't call right,
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, call first, it's gonna be you gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta, You've got to When that that first feeling
Speaker 1: comes in of like I want to be vulnerable, I
Speaker 1: want to give, it's like you need to act on
Speaker 1: it right. Then to impulsive, completely impulsive, don't completely the
Speaker 1: opposite of everything everyone else has told you. Yes, you
Speaker 1: have to be impulsive when it comes to that, because
Speaker 1: those are your your actions, your feelings in your heart,
Speaker 1: you know. And so that mindfulness is important because we
Speaker 1: do have to train our minds to come from that
Speaker 1: space of infinite abundance um not scarcity. So there's a
Speaker 1: lot of reframing that has to happen mentally. That's why
Speaker 1: being mindful is important, because we have to be aware
Speaker 1: of what we tell ourselves, you know, the stories we
Speaker 1: tell ourselves. And I think that once we take a
Speaker 1: moment to say like, Okay, I'm gonna be present, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to talk myself out of things. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. When I think about that with microL gestures,
Speaker 1: for me, a lot of people don't know how to
Speaker 1: talk to people, especially strangers. So that mindfulness of get
Speaker 1: out of your own head and get into the world
Speaker 1: and just silence that and be present and allow you know,
Speaker 1: yeah and yeah, and observe, like, observe what's in front
Speaker 1: of you, what's happening, listen, training with the energy as well.
Speaker 1: And then the reason being intentional is important is know
Speaker 1: why you're doing what you're doing, the root of it,
Speaker 1: where is it coming from the root. And for me,
Speaker 1: I'm very detached to a reason. I mean that's why I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I believe in love without reason is
Speaker 1: because it's this feels right. I don't have to have
Speaker 1: a motive like it feels right, energetically, spiritually, heart work.
Speaker 1: It feels right. And that's why I think that intention
Speaker 1: of I have love to give, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: give it. I don't think that it needs to be
Speaker 1: any further than that. Not who you are to me,
Speaker 1: Not you know I should No, no, no, This is
Speaker 1: the right thing to do. It feels right, and my
Speaker 1: intention is to share love. And I can only hope
Speaker 1: that's why you have to be detached to the outcome.
Speaker 1: I can only hope you'll meet me halfway. I love that. Yes,
Speaker 1: so beautiful. I can talk love with you all day.
Speaker 1: I write so much about it, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's it's what I want to put into the
Speaker 1: world too. I think, you know, when when I think
Speaker 1: about what anchors me and my my mission in this
Speaker 1: world is to to bring more love, you know, and
Speaker 1: too into people's hearts, you know. I I'm so blessed
Speaker 1: that with my gift I can I can go into
Speaker 1: those places where most people don't, you know, they don't
Speaker 1: touch that. And it's I love that about music. It's
Speaker 1: so beautiful too, you know, to be blessed with that
Speaker 1: gift and you know. I love that. You said you
Speaker 1: went to church for the music, so you must have
Speaker 1: you must have some love for music. I always ask,
Speaker 1: I might ask my my guests. Um, it's do something
Speaker 1: called the Holy five, which is basically, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's five songs on your playlist right now. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: five songs that you, you know, grew up listening to,
Speaker 1: Like what are what would be your Holy five? And
Speaker 1: why oh my God? So well? The first song I
Speaker 1: think of is Bill Withers. Um, He's one of my
Speaker 1: favorite song ladies, Bill Weathers, Can we pretend? I don't
Speaker 1: know that song? I'm gonna have to listen to that
Speaker 1: as soon as we get off, so you listen to
Speaker 1: it today. Okay, I'm gonna do that, Bill Weathers, Can
Speaker 1: we pretend? Because I love Sundays and that's like my
Speaker 1: Sunday shower. You know Vinyl like Hellove, the Pain is
Speaker 1: Gone and Gone. That song just really makes me feel
Speaker 1: about like just soundtrack to life. Um. I love when
Speaker 1: I'm in my emotions Chris Stapleton Sometimes I cry, yes, cry,
Speaker 1: I love that song. I just voice is so stunning.
Speaker 1: His voice is crazy, his voice is crazy. I love him. Um,
Speaker 1: I love Miles davis version of Summertime Oh Yeah, and
Speaker 1: jazz is my favorite genre of music, so I definitely
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to like Duke Ellington Miles Davis um,
Speaker 1: so I just anything Miles. But for me, Summertime it's
Speaker 1: my favorite song, especially because I also loved slave literature,
Speaker 1: so that song definitely makes me think of that time.
Speaker 1: Luther Vandel's Never Too Much because I just feel like
Speaker 1: that's my happy song. I feel like every time I
Speaker 1: hear that when it comes to love, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's so vulnerable. It sounds on how you feel. And
Speaker 1: then I would say a song it's not by him
Speaker 1: because Jeff Buckley wrote but um Kenny Lattimore's version of
Speaker 1: Everybody Here Wants, Oh Wow, thank you. I'll just chill
Speaker 1: once again. Song I don't Know, Oh my god, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I have so many songs like you don't understand. Music
Speaker 1: is like my other love. We're trading playlist after this.
Speaker 1: Yes is so good. Please listen to those songs, okay
Speaker 1: and tell me how you felt. Okay, I will. I
Speaker 1: so have enjoyed speaking with you. Thank Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I loved it. You're amazing. I would love to come
Speaker 1: volunteer with what you're doing because it just has so
Speaker 1: moved me, and yeah, I would love to get involved,
Speaker 1: So come to Vegan Burgers with us. I'm down, absolutely
Speaker 1: so nice to meet you. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: being on here. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: We'll talk soon for sure. Thank you. And that wraps
Speaker 1: up this episode of Holy Human. I hope you enjoyed
Speaker 1: listening to this conversation as much as we enjoyed having it,
Speaker 1: and I'd love to hear from you too, so just
Speaker 1: hit me up in the comments wherever you're listening, and
Speaker 1: please fore free to afford this to anyone you think
Speaker 1: would benefit from Mary Bye. On the next episode of
Speaker 1: Holy Human, you'll meet the man dedicated to helping you
Speaker 1: heal your trauma and live your true purpose, the very
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Speaker 1: for the next generation. I know you guys are going
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