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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, August third, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,
Speaker 1: episode number seven. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: It's State thirteen Training Camp twenty twenty one, presented by
Speaker 1: American Airlines. Were outre in Oxnard, California. Man, we were
Speaker 1: around in the corner and getting close to the end
Speaker 1: of camp. Cowboys will actually be taking the field this
Speaker 1: week for a game. Just so everyone knows what the
Speaker 1: schedule looks like. We have our show today and then
Speaker 1: tomorrow there will not be shows. We will It will
Speaker 1: be a travel day for the Cowboys. They'll be heading
Speaker 1: out to Cleveland and then to Canton for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game on Thursday. On Friday, there will be
Speaker 1: a joint podcast. We will have our writers on. Dave
Speaker 1: and Nick I soon will be a part of that.
Speaker 1: But they'll talk to you a little bit about what
Speaker 1: happens in this game. On Thursday, Saturday, we've got a
Speaker 1: live broadcast of Cowboys practice. It'll be a joint practice
Speaker 1: with the Rams, and we'll have a live broadcast across
Speaker 1: all of our channels. On Sunday, we'll jump back in.
Speaker 1: We'll have a podcast on Sunday, We'll have a podcast
Speaker 1: on Monday, podcast on Tuesday, and podcast on Wednesday, and
Speaker 1: then we will end training camp and we will head
Speaker 1: back to our confines in Frisco, Texas. So a lot well, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean, like as far as the shows are concerned,
Speaker 1: the team will travel to Arizona, but we will start
Speaker 1: back our coverage after that the following week in Frisco, Texas.
Speaker 1: How much did you learn in that thing? I got lost,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, day at a time, many
Speaker 1: man Jason Garrett taught me that I thought, Nick, I
Speaker 1: thought you were going to send out that email to
Speaker 1: the team to let them know what the schedule was.
Speaker 1: Why am I letting everybody in the air knowing Dave
Speaker 1: doesn't even know. No, Dave doesn't know I send it out.
Speaker 1: I just didn't send it to you. Oh yeah, they
Speaker 1: look on days spaces like that happened really? Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sure that happened. He's everybody, all our producers, all of
Speaker 1: our producers over the sand. I never got will It
Speaker 1: was like he didn't send an email. Just play along,
Speaker 1: all right, Let's jump into this thing. Man. It's eight
Speaker 1: practice now, it's okay. We can make sure that's sure
Speaker 1: that Now everybody on the team can listen to the
Speaker 1: break and they can get the schedule for the next week.
Speaker 1: We have eight practices done out here. We got four
Speaker 1: more to go before the Cowboys in training camp. Let's
Speaker 1: start first school. We always start. I want some observations
Speaker 1: from you guys. What did you see in the last practice?
Speaker 1: Each of you give me an observation. Let's start with you, Dave.
Speaker 1: After that, that was a long off day. I feel
Speaker 1: like like, I mean, that's a nice off day. I
Speaker 1: gotta remind myself what happened on Sunday? Was it Sunday? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That would have been Sunday? Okay, I mean, ja, do
Speaker 1: we have to spend a lot of time on ceedee lamb,
Speaker 1: good god? Yeah. You can just say CD had a
Speaker 1: great catch. You can do it every day. He could.
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was within the last week
Speaker 1: that I was like, yeah, you know, he's he's a
Speaker 1: great player and he's fun, but like he's you know,
Speaker 1: eighty eight he lays does he is he doing death
Speaker 1: stuff out here? Every Yeah he is. I did. I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure that that was the thing a week ago maybe,
Speaker 1: but he does it every damn day. Man. He does
Speaker 1: something fun every time we go out there. So I'm
Speaker 1: sure if you're listening to this, you've probably seen the
Speaker 1: catch that he had the other day. It was super fun.
Speaker 1: Um what else jumps out? Oh, Cyrus Mitchell caught like
Speaker 1: eighteen passes the other day. That was like he was
Speaker 1: just the guy, you know, like, yeah, they must have
Speaker 1: liked a match up they saw with him because he
Speaker 1: he was out there doing his thing. Um was it?
Speaker 1: I think it was Durance Armstrong also had a really
Speaker 1: nice day the other day, Um, which he's had a
Speaker 1: lot a few nice Yeah, very quietly putting like you know,
Speaker 1: people people loved You're You're boring by year four? Is
Speaker 1: it already? You're it's your three or four for Dorance?
Speaker 1: This is fourth year for him. People are bored, like
Speaker 1: you know, people are trying to fire him. Because he's
Speaker 1: a fourth year guy and he doesn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of career sacks, but he's making this team. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's definitely making the team. And you know we've had
Speaker 1: some people kind of you know, scouts, coaches that tell
Speaker 1: us he's having a really really good camp. Um, we
Speaker 1: ranked him. You know, we did our top fifteen. Um
Speaker 1: play yeah you have it. No I don't have it. Well,
Speaker 1: here's what tell you? What do you give me? The
Speaker 1: top five? In the top five is great. This is
Speaker 1: what I love about it is. You know, we were
Speaker 1: talking about and we talked about with a couple of
Speaker 1: scouts and they were like, wow, you know you got CD,
Speaker 1: you got Gregory Digs Shoults. And I'm like that's good.
Speaker 1: That's our top four. So we're not we're not too Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got something figured out. Um. They threw Dorin's Armstrong
Speaker 1: in that group of top five. We had him ten,
Speaker 1: I believe on our list. Um, you know other players
Speaker 1: that we had in there for us, if I had
Speaker 1: to remember, were like Kazi, Um he was in there.
Speaker 1: Who else am I Layden, Vanderesh, Parson, Parsons is I
Speaker 1: think was gamp is having a great camp? And you
Speaker 1: know we we kind of we also look at it
Speaker 1: with expectations too. I mean, Malik Turner, it might be
Speaker 1: seven or eight. We wouldn't have put him in our
Speaker 1: top eighty of players we thought would make the team.
Speaker 1: Definitely not right. He would be in the bottom ten,
Speaker 1: no chance. But they signed him for a reason, you know.
Speaker 1: But but he's he's played well. He's taken advantage of
Speaker 1: the fact that that Cooper's out and also Gallup's been out.
Speaker 1: He's got some good reps there. Uh, he's had a
Speaker 1: really really good camp. That's one that was kind of
Speaker 1: a surprising one. Um Devil Gallimore was in there. Also
Speaker 1: did Gazoo was in there. Uh, in that like that
Speaker 1: eight nine range. They've they've they've done something. They showed
Speaker 1: some good things. We had iron like eleven Tyrant hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced much, but when he's practiced, he's been pretty good.
Speaker 1: Put him on the list. Yeah, he's on the list.
Speaker 1: He's out here. I'm just surprised by that. And he's
Speaker 1: out here. Other any other receivers come to mind. I
Speaker 1: don't really think so good and receivers corners are the
Speaker 1: ones that you know, we always him. McEwan got in
Speaker 1: there at fourteen. Yeah, yeah, he's had he's had a
Speaker 1: pretty nice training camp. He's surprising too. You know, you
Speaker 1: just only expect him to get in in that mix,
Speaker 1: I think, And going back to Sunday, I think that
Speaker 1: was maybe the most entertaining practice of the entire training camp, honestly,
Speaker 1: and when when something's entertaining, that means both sides are
Speaker 1: making plays. Um they did a red zone period offense
Speaker 1: versus defense. Defense whipped their ass. They won seven to three.
Speaker 1: Kean O'Neill had a nice interception, Treyvon Diggs broke up
Speaker 1: a couple of balls. But it's probably Garrett Gilbert's best
Speaker 1: day of practice too. I don't remember. While he did
Speaker 1: throw an interception in the seven on seven, but in
Speaker 1: team drills he didn't throw any picks. As you know.
Speaker 1: Sean McEwan kind of draft jog my memory. He had
Speaker 1: a couple of nice catches on Sunday. Everybody just seemed
Speaker 1: a little bit more comfortable and it was It was
Speaker 1: a very entertaining practice because Saturday and Thursday of last
Speaker 1: week were kind of rough, but Sunday was good. Sunday
Speaker 1: was fun. Only two guys I didn't mention on the list,
Speaker 1: I would say it was Maurice Kennedy and yeah, we
Speaker 1: had him like a twelve. And then also Connor Williams
Speaker 1: has done a nice job. And they're putting Connor in
Speaker 1: different different spots, trying him at center. He's not he's
Speaker 1: not all the way there yet as your backup center,
Speaker 1: but I think he's learning and it It kind of
Speaker 1: annoys me when I hear people say, you know, he's
Speaker 1: doing a pretty good job. He's still new to him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna pick it up, but he's gonna get it.
Speaker 1: So if you would have done this a year and
Speaker 1: a half ago, we sort of talked about it. Well
Speaker 1: they had bigger problems a year ago, right, but he
Speaker 1: should he could have gotten center snaps. You know. Here,
Speaker 1: it's like and this has been talked about. I mean
Speaker 1: I even think Chris Bean came up to me last
Speaker 1: year and said, you know, Connor Williams could be playing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's been discussed. Yeah, that's never
Speaker 1: been never played him out there. That kind of frustrates me.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy said, play in the college all American left
Speaker 1: tackle at right tackles Fantasy football nonsense. So I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna forget that. I won't. I won't, I won't do it.
Speaker 1: It was insulting anyway, Sorry not to that really first
Speaker 1: I did. It's insulting when somebody calls your very not
Speaker 1: stupid idea stupid and then does it three weeks later, Yeah,
Speaker 1: as though it was their idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: I want to get everyone ready ready for the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game. Um, first of all, let me let
Speaker 1: me give me an update on kind of what you
Speaker 1: what you think is what you heard from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of who you expect we'll play in this game? You
Speaker 1: expect to see starters? How many of them? Like? What
Speaker 1: are you expecting to see this game? Okay, forget play
Speaker 1: who's gonna go on it? Because I feel like it's
Speaker 1: different now, you know, before you know, with COVID protocols,
Speaker 1: unnecessary risk of like leaving this bubble, going to a
Speaker 1: new city, traveling and then it's freaking I mean, between
Speaker 1: the bus ride and the flight, it's a hard travel,
Speaker 1: a long trip, and you know some of these guys,
Speaker 1: you know, does Tyron Smith need to sit on a
Speaker 1: plane for four hours if he's not going to play
Speaker 1: in this game? Lyle Colins Zach Martin. Well, that's true.
Speaker 1: They are flying in the nice plane, aren't they. They're
Speaker 1: a nice it's all nice, they're all nice plane. But
Speaker 1: they're flying in a very comfortable plane. Yes. Um, I
Speaker 1: still don't know if it's worth it, though, Like I
Speaker 1: bet a decent number of these guys stay behind, and
Speaker 1: then you've got you still have six or seven guys
Speaker 1: on pup like Amari Cooper and DeMarcus Lawrence. They don't
Speaker 1: need to be there, uh So. And I don't know
Speaker 1: the answers to this, but I bet a lot of
Speaker 1: these guys are going to stay behind a knox Nard.
Speaker 1: Maybe not a lot, but at least a hand fill. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's that's another dynamic as well, because not saying
Speaker 1: what these guys are gonna do, but you know, would
Speaker 1: you rather than be in Cleveland and you know, with
Speaker 1: a curfew or here on Wednesday night, you know, no
Speaker 1: practice again until Saturday. Let's be clear, they won't be here.
Speaker 1: They will not be here. That'll be so down in
Speaker 1: Malibu or something. So there's a lot of things to
Speaker 1: consider it. And also, you know, just with that with
Speaker 1: that scrimmage there against the Rams, I mean, or whatever,
Speaker 1: you're gonna call it a practice on scrimmage, but practice.
Speaker 1: But you could kind of see or hear the frustration
Speaker 1: a little bit out of McCarthy the other day when
Speaker 1: he was just talking about it. Now he him and
Speaker 1: Sean McVay agreed to this, so they may it sound
Speaker 1: like he didn't. He wasn't, you know, have a saying this.
Speaker 1: It's just that now when you you can say it
Speaker 1: way back in the summer and go, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 1: play on Thursday, and then we'll come full fly across country,
Speaker 1: be back Friday, and then we're gonna scrimmage on or
Speaker 1: practice on Saturday. Well, that all sounds nice and good.
Speaker 1: Your injury list is like two guys. Now your injury
Speaker 1: list is and now you're sitting here and it's here
Speaker 1: and your injury list is like twelve fourteen, sixteen guys.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound as good. You got to get through the
Speaker 1: game and then, you know, I talked to John Fossil
Speaker 1: yesterday because I had talked to Joe D. Camillis as well,
Speaker 1: and they were actually trying to connect that Joe T
Speaker 1: was trying to you know, he did. He talked to
Speaker 1: Fossil to figuring out what are you guys gonna do?
Speaker 1: How are we gonna practice? We got fourteen minutes to practice,
Speaker 1: and Fossil was telling me that sounds nice. I gotta
Speaker 1: see what my guys look like coming back from the game.
Speaker 1: So this is you're just weighing a lot of things here,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out a lot about this football
Speaker 1: team in the next four or five days. It might be,
Speaker 1: as you guys were saying, for some of those vets,
Speaker 1: this might be a nice little break. For those lower guys.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tough few days because we're gonna
Speaker 1: play a lot of football in these next few days,
Speaker 1: and a lot of football, competitive football against other teams
Speaker 1: when you think about it from the standpoint of a game,
Speaker 1: and then playing against the Rams. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really tough days for those guys that are trying
Speaker 1: to make that You ever seen that, We've ever seen
Speaker 1: eight days. We've ever seen three different helmets against the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in eight days. Oh us, Mickey, Mickey would let
Speaker 1: us know. I don't know, I don't know. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a lot to me. I mean, just like somebody
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a backup guard or somebody's blocking a Steeler,
Speaker 1: a ram in a cardinal in eight days, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be I mean, and especially at certain positions. So CJ.
Speaker 1: Goodwin left practice on Sunday. It didn't look so it
Speaker 1: didn't even happen during the physical part of practice, so
Speaker 1: I think it was probably soft tissue. Josh Ball left
Speaker 1: practice with an ankle issue. So now okay, and so
Speaker 1: now we already you know, Tyren Smith, Lyle Collins, Zackmartin
Speaker 1: probably not going to play in this game, or if
Speaker 1: they do, it would be a very low number of snaps.
Speaker 1: So if a Josh Ball's gone or a CJ. Goodwin's gone,
Speaker 1: you know the same thing. You know, how many snaps
Speaker 1: is Travon Digs is gonna play? Anthony Brown? Probably not
Speaker 1: a lot. So now hope you're ready, Maurice Kennedy, Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph gonna get you shot. I hope you're ready. Terrence
Speaker 1: Steel You're probably gonna play a lot of snaps on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Who do you think is the best football
Speaker 1: player on this team that's gonna play Thursday Night? Mmm?
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, Who do you think's the best player that's
Speaker 1: actually played in a game before that's gonna play, Because
Speaker 1: you're right, I think it would be Parsons. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: so you're your most established player. I mean, but you
Speaker 1: can't sit everyone. You can't sit every starter and still
Speaker 1: try to get think the game. In terms of starters.
Speaker 1: The guy that I I think has to play as
Speaker 1: Tyler Beotish, Yeah, he needs reps. I'm not sure Connor
Speaker 1: Williams doesn't get a little bit of rep right, I
Speaker 1: don't think he might have maybe a little bit. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna play very long. I wouldn't think I would
Speaker 1: put you want him to play second team center? Second?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think other than Mica, my answer to that might
Speaker 1: be Tony Pollard. Honestly, I would assume he'll get on
Speaker 1: how much you're gonna play him at least the series
Speaker 1: or two? Right, Yeah, I mean that's true. He's a
Speaker 1: good football player. He doesn't need to be that. I
Speaker 1: really want to see a lot of him this day.
Speaker 1: I hope it's not Tony Pollard. Because Shannon and our
Speaker 1: social team asked me to help with a with a
Speaker 1: pole question, and I said, who's going to lead the
Speaker 1: team in rushing Thursday mentioned him, no, and he won't.
Speaker 1: Way he's who won. I don't. I don't know who
Speaker 1: won the pull Dottle. Here's the thing we gotta remember too,
Speaker 1: Like we're talking about this in relative terms. These starters,
Speaker 1: they play a full game all season, like, so for
Speaker 1: these young guys to go out and play a full
Speaker 1: game if Dowdle is the only running back that plays
Speaker 1: for them the whole game, or if they have him
Speaker 1: and maybe one other guy. The other guys I can't
Speaker 1: and I'll know their names once they get to a
Speaker 1: point where they're gonna make the team, right, Okay, but
Speaker 1: I know their names. But this is as little as
Speaker 1: I've ever cared about a running back group just in
Speaker 1: this because I mean, it's already done. It seems done
Speaker 1: to me, unless unless they love Nick Ralston so much
Speaker 1: that they just had got to have a full back
Speaker 1: h back. I don't see anybody taking Rico Dowdell's job away, right,
Speaker 1: So I mean when I look at that, I'm just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, we're talking in relative terms, but these
Speaker 1: guys can go out and play a full game. Like
Speaker 1: these young guys can play a full game. They don't
Speaker 1: have to have somebody else spelling them as with the
Speaker 1: you know the language, you know for these young guys,
Speaker 1: spin it is that. With that, Ulna Luis said, I'm
Speaker 1: ready to spin it. I just take it that means
Speaker 1: I'm ready to run, ready to roll, ready to whatever.
Speaker 1: I actually guess I've never heard somebody say that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard some might say that. He's my Okay, Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't hear let's what's your boy's name in the
Speaker 1: movie You want to win? Let Booby spin? Like that's
Speaker 1: like I thought it was, you want to win, put
Speaker 1: Booby in? And then he said let Booby spin. I
Speaker 1: didn't hear that. Yeah, that was come on, man, you
Speaker 1: should know that. I should. I just didn't hear that line.
Speaker 1: All right here, it was you want to win, put
Speaker 1: Booby in. Shy is gonna lead the team in rushing though,
Speaker 1: that's who I think they're gonna he's yeah, he's just
Speaker 1: yahybe let's go shao Alna Louis, all right, here's gonna do. We'
Speaker 1: gonna take our first break when we come back. Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: one of them, based on what you thought of them
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, second segment of the Break Life Mock Star California.
Speaker 1: We're in day thirteen of training camp twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: It is presented by American Airlines. Let's talk rookies. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the draft. Cowboys drafted a ton of players
Speaker 1: this last year, and coming out of the draft, I
Speaker 1: think there was a general consensus that the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: least did a fairly decent job on Draft Day. At
Speaker 1: least they addressed a lot of the issues that they
Speaker 1: needed to address. We'll see where it all lands. But
Speaker 1: what I want to do is I want you guys
Speaker 1: in your minds to go back to the Sunday following
Speaker 1: the draft, and I want you to think about the
Speaker 1: expectations that you had for each of these players based
Speaker 1: upon where they were selected and what you thought of
Speaker 1: them going into the draft, and then I want you
Speaker 1: to tell me, based on the things you've seen in OTAs,
Speaker 1: the things you've seen out here at training camp, have
Speaker 1: they been above, have they met or are they below
Speaker 1: the expectations that you had for them at this point
Speaker 1: in their careers? Very early? I know that, but let's
Speaker 1: just get a grade, right. So let's start first with
Speaker 1: the first round pick, Michael Parsons. This is gonna sound bad,
Speaker 1: but like, this is this is what I expected, honestly.
Speaker 1: And I think I can say that because I was
Speaker 1: kind of one of those guys that was onto this
Speaker 1: pick even before they drafted him. I when I watched him,
Speaker 1: I didn't see anybody really blocking him, and I said it, well,
Speaker 1: let's see, he's not going up against Northwestern and Purdue
Speaker 1: in Michigan State and all that, but he hasn't really
Speaker 1: been blockable here to some degree, and so I think
Speaker 1: that this is kind of what I expected to see,
Speaker 1: maybe not this early, but I did expect to see
Speaker 1: this stuff. I'm anxious to see what kind of what
Speaker 1: happened in the game. Yeah, I mean I maybe my
Speaker 1: expectations are above and like I've I've been ready. I've
Speaker 1: readily admitted it. Like I wasn't sure about the pick
Speaker 1: I wanted Rashaan Slater. It looks like he's doing really
Speaker 1: well for the Chargers by the way. Um and I said,
Speaker 1: I was like, this feels like boom or bust to me,
Speaker 1: Like it could be really good, it could be really bad.
Speaker 1: You know, there were questions about maturity, took the year
Speaker 1: off of football all. You know, we don't need to
Speaker 1: go over the whole thing. But I had my doubts,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel that way right now. He looks
Speaker 1: really really impressive. I mean, they're putting a lot on him.
Speaker 1: He's got a dot by the way, he's like, they're
Speaker 1: letting him call stuff not all the time, not all
Speaker 1: the time, but he does do it. That's a little
Speaker 1: bit more to Fantasy's you got a green dot on
Speaker 1: your helmet. It means you have the radio and they,
Speaker 1: you know, the coaching staff makes the defensive calls to you.
Speaker 1: So and then do you tell the huddle, what's going on.
Speaker 1: But you got to know the plays really well. So
Speaker 1: Layton and Jalen have one too, I mean, the only
Speaker 1: one guy can have it during the season, but at
Speaker 1: training camps, so he's not doing everything, but he is
Speaker 1: making calls on defense. They're used him in pass rusher,
Speaker 1: they're using him in coverage, which is something I was
Speaker 1: worried about. I was like, how versable was this guy
Speaker 1: gonna be? Is going to contribute to the to the
Speaker 1: pass rush. Well he's doing that. Um, haven't heard a
Speaker 1: peep about him being a problem of any sorts since
Speaker 1: he got drafted, by the way, so hey, it's very early.
Speaker 1: It's very early. So but having said all of that,
Speaker 1: this is what you should expect from a top twelve pick.
Speaker 1: Like so, he's probably not above the expectations of where
Speaker 1: he was drafted, but he's probably above the expectations that
Speaker 1: I had. So I've been very impressed. All right, let
Speaker 1: me say one thing about before we move on to
Speaker 1: the next pig. As great as Parsons has been so far,
Speaker 1: and we're all excited about him, you know, the Rashaun
Speaker 1: Slater debate is going to go on for a while
Speaker 1: because when you think about where we are at offensive
Speaker 1: tackle and guard and some of the question mark there
Speaker 1: and some of the injuries and all that, Like having
Speaker 1: him on the team right now would have really been Yeah,
Speaker 1: a good thing, sure, you know, and linebacker's kind of
Speaker 1: a jumbled thing. Um. You know, who knows if Layton
Speaker 1: he might have had the fifth year option. They might
Speaker 1: have given him that option if you didn't if they
Speaker 1: didn't draft Parsons. So you know, it's certainly not a
Speaker 1: point where you're like, well, good call. They got Parsons,
Speaker 1: and I I I that's who I thought they should
Speaker 1: have taken, was Parsons to help the defense. But we're not.
Speaker 1: We're not out of the woods on this debate. But
Speaker 1: which is. And that's the fun thing about the draft
Speaker 1: is those debates go on for year years. I mean,
Speaker 1: Zeke looked like a better pick than Ramsey for a
Speaker 1: few years. And now you can certainly make the case
Speaker 1: that Ramsey was the better decision. I think that's probably
Speaker 1: an easy case to make right now. Um, And well,
Speaker 1: that's a different show. And that's not even just about
Speaker 1: what's on the field. I'm talking about all the other stuff.
Speaker 1: You get, you get my point. These things evolved well,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, if if if is there any second
Speaker 1: third fourth round pick in that twenty sixteen draft, No, yeah,
Speaker 1: if there isn't, No, I'm oh not none that or
Speaker 1: as important as Dak is. No. No, no no, I don't
Speaker 1: mean Dad. I mean I mean Ramsey plus the running
Speaker 1: back that you draft later helps, you know, because we've
Speaker 1: seen McFadden have success. I mean, we've seen Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: have some success. So we think you know that that's
Speaker 1: always the debate there. I don't know if there's a
Speaker 1: second third fourth round. I mean, Anthony Brown was the
Speaker 1: sixth round corner that came in. Henry was that draft,
Speaker 1: but I don't remember if he might have been off
Speaker 1: the board before the Cowboys picked. I don't remember that
Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, no, I think people say, you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could have had Ramsey and Hens or Henry any
Speaker 1: of the off the rails a little bit, but those
Speaker 1: things if But I said this yesterday on Twitter, is
Speaker 1: I was worried that we were going to be watching
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater ball out and I would just be upset, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this sucks. And now it's really more like, well,
Speaker 1: maybe I wasn't wrong, but maybe both teams will be happy.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of where I feel. That's how I
Speaker 1: feel right now. You said something a few minutes ago, Derek,
Speaker 1: I think I don't want this to get kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, um forgotten. But yes, he looks great. Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons looks great doing all these things. But rookies, their
Speaker 1: head is got to be spinning, and to put them
Speaker 1: in four or five different spots is very very important.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact he can go here, here, here,
Speaker 1: he I believe will turn into the player, whether it
Speaker 1: be this year or next year, where the quarterback will
Speaker 1: go to the line of scrimmage to find out where
Speaker 1: eleven is. You have to yep, yeah, where is he?
Speaker 1: Because that tells you this whole thing. You don't really know.
Speaker 1: He's right here, he's over here, He's over here changes
Speaker 1: the whole play. And that sounds great, But not everybody
Speaker 1: has the capability of learning all of those spots. When
Speaker 1: name the last time the Cowboys had a guy like
Speaker 1: that that they moved around that much, I can't think
Speaker 1: of one. I mean, you start going back to some
Speaker 1: of the old day guys like they would do that,
Speaker 1: and they'd have that you know what we call in
Speaker 1: high school the monster position where you basically roam around
Speaker 1: the field and you're in different spots. Right, Cowboys haven't
Speaker 1: really traditionally done that because it takes a very special
Speaker 1: player to be able to do that. In to your point,
Speaker 1: he's doing that in his first training camp. So how
Speaker 1: much more growth does he have to where he can
Speaker 1: possibly be graded all those different things? And I know
Speaker 1: I've said this all the time, but I think people
Speaker 1: forget this when you talk about corners that travel and
Speaker 1: linebackers that move, Well, if they're moving around, that means
Speaker 1: someone else is moving too, and there is that person
Speaker 1: capable of moving all this stuff. Because you can have
Speaker 1: a corner that travels everywhere, that means this, well, the
Speaker 1: right corner has also got to travel and got to
Speaker 1: be able to learn the left side. And so if
Speaker 1: if if somebody if MICA's rushing off the edge on
Speaker 1: this play, well where's where's d Law? And well he's
Speaker 1: sliding in and where did this guy go? Well he moved,
Speaker 1: you know, So everybody's got to be disciplined. And that's
Speaker 1: why I think dan Quinn is here. I think this
Speaker 1: what that's what we're gonna find out? How good he
Speaker 1: it really is. Henry was on the board by the way,
Speaker 1: just saying sorry. Moving on. Second round pick Kelvin Joseph
Speaker 1: Um better better than I thought. I was the one
Speaker 1: that said, you know, I didn't love the pick. I
Speaker 1: didn't love the pick. Didn't love what I've thought was
Speaker 1: a reach. Didn't understand maybe where what he's done in
Speaker 1: his back ground and where he's been here in his
Speaker 1: dedication and all that. Uh, he's a little bit better
Speaker 1: than that. He's still here, he's competing and all that.
Speaker 1: He's cocky. I like that. We'll see I think I
Speaker 1: think lights come on, he might be a gamer. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see him. But you know, I think he's
Speaker 1: probably where I thought he'd be. Um. I am impressed.
Speaker 1: You know, he didn't really have a spring because of
Speaker 1: covid um or. He was behind a little bit um.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a testament to his athleticism and
Speaker 1: his dedicate Like he's not he's not lost out there.
Speaker 1: I mean he's getting reps. He hasn't made a ton
Speaker 1: of splash plays, but uh, and and he even he
Speaker 1: had a day or two where he couldn't go because
Speaker 1: of a hamstring and he's still but you know, they're
Speaker 1: not afraid to put him out there, and he's competing.
Speaker 1: He's had some PBUs. He's a talker for sure. Um,
Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised by that because he did have
Speaker 1: the athleticism in the tape to be a top fifty pick.
Speaker 1: So he's He's where I thought he'd be, all right. Also,
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Speaker 1: do for something. My brain. My brain just wouldn't let
Speaker 1: me remember that he had a W in his last
Speaker 1: name for the longest time. But I think I finally Yeah,
Speaker 1: William had to give me a talking had I had
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Speaker 1: I'll do things a little different. I guess what's a
Speaker 1: little different if it's what's the one for the planets?
Speaker 1: I mean there's different ones. Oh my excuse my d No,
Speaker 1: that's math that's math y, my very something mother, educated mother,
Speaker 1: just something I don't know. You've never, you never. We
Speaker 1: just learned the names. Like no, it's called it. It's
Speaker 1: called the nemonic. I know that we just learned the names.
Speaker 1: Like we didn't need My daughter did that the other day.
Speaker 1: My very educated mother serves us. There we Hey, whatever works, man,
Speaker 1: whatever works. Were all right, let's get back on is above.
Speaker 1: I think you know, we who do the draft, we
Speaker 1: were a little surprised to hear his name called that early. Um,
Speaker 1: so you thought, where do you where do you think
Speaker 1: you should go? Like where would you guys? Where were
Speaker 1: you guys projecting him to go? He went in the
Speaker 1: round that we like, he went in the range. I
Speaker 1: would say, I just I wouldn't have guessed that he
Speaker 1: would be the first guy off the board with that
Speaker 1: third round pick. And he wasn't a guy that we
Speaker 1: had heard a lot about, which it's harder during COVID
Speaker 1: and all that. So I was a little down on
Speaker 1: just because and I'd have to go back and look,
Speaker 1: but there were other names available that I was higher on. Um.
Speaker 1: But he he looks impressive. No, he looks the part
Speaker 1: for big and he's act and he gets behind the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage absolutely. Um. So I above, Yes, so far,
Speaker 1: I want to see he's one of those guys. I'm
Speaker 1: excited to see what he is after a year in
Speaker 1: the training, in the in the strength and conditioning program.
Speaker 1: Because he's already a big dude and you add some
Speaker 1: muscle and some strength to that, He's gonna be a
Speaker 1: handful long term. I think really like a cool guy too.
Speaker 1: I got a chance to spend some time with him
Speaker 1: during media days and he was very friendly and personable.
Speaker 1: And then he had his first media availability of camp
Speaker 1: last week, and just like he's a he's a dude
Speaker 1: that I think it would be fun to like hang
Speaker 1: out and get a beer with for whatever that's worth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hopefully these two guys are really really good for years
Speaker 1: to come. But I can't imagine I could see a
Speaker 1: radio show with Neville Gallimore. They have personality, you know,
Speaker 1: we saw we saw Galloway last year, like he has
Speaker 1: gall sorry last year, he has that that personality, definitely
Speaker 1: has that personality. Yeah, Tristan Hill is not that so much,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but those other two I think they definitely
Speaker 1: have a personality to be able to do it. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump over Chauncy Gold. I haven't just haven't
Speaker 1: been able to play. We haven't seen enough of him.
Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do. We're gonna take our break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll jump in talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about Nashan Wright U and Bill Cox and
Speaker 1: some other names uh there in the later parts in
Speaker 1: later rounds. Well, when we come right back. This is
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Speaker 1: segment here at the break. We're talking about the rookies.
Speaker 1: We've gone through most of the third round picks except
Speaker 1: for Nashan Right. Talk to me about Sean Right. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's got to be above just because we tried to
Speaker 1: bury the guy on draft night because nobody had ever
Speaker 1: heard of him. I mean, like that's just the honest truth,
Speaker 1: Like he wasn't a guy that anybody but the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was talking about as a third round pick. And six
Speaker 1: four just limbs for days. I mean, looks like he's
Speaker 1: gonna have a hard time moving in space and he
Speaker 1: I mean, he's definitely not perfect. He's lost his fair
Speaker 1: share of stuff out here, but he's out there competing
Speaker 1: getting his hand on the football. Did it during OTA's
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying, like very candidly, I'm just like
Speaker 1: this guy's gonna like have a hard time getting a
Speaker 1: jersey on game days as a rookie and sitting here like, no,
Speaker 1: he's gonna make the team and probably be a viable
Speaker 1: member of it. Man, you know, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna take anybody's starting job. But people people killed that
Speaker 1: pick when it happened, and it looks like early early,
Speaker 1: but like it at least doesn't look stupid right now,
Speaker 1: which is more than a lot of people said on
Speaker 1: draft night. I'm anxious to see what kind of role
Speaker 1: he'll have on a on a game day. I think
Speaker 1: for sure he makes the team. I'm just curious to
Speaker 1: see what, you know, and then that'll come down to
Speaker 1: what he does on special teams, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a long strider. He's got to be, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna get down there, probably quicker than the most. Can't
Speaker 1: he be physical enough to do anything when he gets there? Now,
Speaker 1: I did see him throw this receiver to the ground
Speaker 1: the other day and I was like what, and then
Speaker 1: it was Reggie Davis, who is about one forty fifty.
Speaker 1: Reggie Davis, by the way, had a really nice catch yesterday.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw it. It It was on
Speaker 1: my Twitter. Um I got it. But yeah, pretty good video,
Speaker 1: pretty good. I'm trying to I'm helmet. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: out helm and helmet here. But I can't give me
Speaker 1: that acces. I was trying to take Chris's job. We're doing.
Speaker 1: It's a good point. No, because he has Chris has
Speaker 1: the better equipment. Okay, is that what it is? Because
Speaker 1: he got he's got the better eye, but he's got
Speaker 1: a better equipment. Okay, it's having a really good care.
Speaker 1: I always get the headset on. He's like, we can
Speaker 1: switch if you Yeah, let's go give it a go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I gave it to Shannon the other day and he's like, no,
Speaker 1: take this back, I'll take the camera. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: little different when you got to pick up the big
Speaker 1: boy camera. Yeah. I don't know. No, he's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's It's amazing though, seriously, because we don't have I mean,
Speaker 1: we have good access, but we just don't have as
Speaker 1: many people as we normally have out here. And every
Speaker 1: time there's a great catch a CD or whoever, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you know we have that Chris, did you get it?
Speaker 1: And he's right there, he's right there, or he's over
Speaker 1: here and he's still got it and all that. We've
Speaker 1: had some really good stuff. Yeah good, no doubt, no doubt,
Speaker 1: you know, honestly for me, Sean Right, it's just gravy
Speaker 1: this year. Whatever you give from him as gravy. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about him long term. Is he a guy that
Speaker 1: you can count on at whatever point they decide to
Speaker 1: move on from Anthony Brown and and Lewis? Like those
Speaker 1: are those are the more that's the more important question
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is he's going to develop into that?
Speaker 1: And if he can, then great. The pick was a
Speaker 1: great pick. I don't care what they really get out
Speaker 1: of him this year. Play some special teams, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I just want to know, can
Speaker 1: you play for him long term? Can you can you
Speaker 1: ease that pain when you have to move on from
Speaker 1: those vets because you're gonna move on from them in
Speaker 1: the next year or two. All right, let's move on
Speaker 1: to we just go quickly? Hear both of them down? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Down and ball? Yeah? Well, I do want to get
Speaker 1: a little color on on on Jabril Cox because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people had high hopes for him
Speaker 1: when the pick was made. Yeah, um. And he was
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick. So expectations can't be great when
Speaker 1: it's a fourth round pick. Yeah they can, can they? Yes?
Speaker 1: Well should they be well, yes, that's a different conversation. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But Jabril Cox is interesting. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: people saw him as a second round pick. A lot
Speaker 1: of you know, like, oh, I'd love to have him
Speaker 1: at seventy five, but I doubt he last that long.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a very real thing. Had they
Speaker 1: taken Rashaunce later, they take Cocks in the second round,
Speaker 1: I firmly believe that. Really, I wouldn't be believe that,
Speaker 1: and and then we'd really be saying he is not
Speaker 1: they need a Yeah, maybe if they had gotten certain
Speaker 1: maybe I think that's possible. I don't know. If they
Speaker 1: had an addressed corner in the first round, I think
Speaker 1: they still take. But he was a second round grade
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, so he that is true. He was,
Speaker 1: And they were just as shocked as everybody else that
Speaker 1: he hung around. And that's how and the reason why
Speaker 1: you get a second round grade on someone and have
Speaker 1: three third round picks and not take them is because
Speaker 1: you already took Michael Parsons in the first round. When
Speaker 1: you're in the fourth round. Now, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: all guys get the best guy, and that was an
Speaker 1: easy pick for them. But that and I do one,
Speaker 1: and so the answer is below. But what we got
Speaker 1: to figure out is is that because he's not ready
Speaker 1: or just because it's tough to get opportunities at that position.
Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's the problem he's
Speaker 1: dealing with right now. Is top twelve pick, seventy million
Speaker 1: dollar veteran, fifth year veteran, you know, leader of your
Speaker 1: defense or one of them at least Laton and then
Speaker 1: Keane O'Neill, who's the coaches guy and a high priority
Speaker 1: free agent. I mean, there's just not a lot of
Speaker 1: room for reps. But I'm gonna kind of play devil's
Speaker 1: advocate there because I've seen Giffords made. We've seen Gifford
Speaker 1: kind of active for sure, and he's got a head
Speaker 1: starting on him, you know. I mean, um, obviously in
Speaker 1: three years that Gifford was making some plays early there,
Speaker 1: but he didn't have those guys at all in front
Speaker 1: of him either. Let's see what happens when the lights
Speaker 1: come on. I think he's gonna get a chance to
Speaker 1: play a lot in prese I think that's the thing.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get live action reps and and we'll have
Speaker 1: to play a lot of special teams, if I had
Speaker 1: to guess. And so, you know, speaking of Gifford, nobody
Speaker 1: was talking about him until he played in a preseason
Speaker 1: game a couple of years ago, had an interception. Every
Speaker 1: you know, let the lit the fan base on fire.
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm not ready to bury him. But
Speaker 1: it's been below what you thought, given everybody thought he
Speaker 1: was a much higher draft grade. Yeah, I would have
Speaker 1: thought you'd see some flashes because as you say, he's
Speaker 1: been buried a little bit down the depth trap. But
Speaker 1: that also means he's playing out there against lesser quality talent,
Speaker 1: and that's where you thought maybe he would flash a
Speaker 1: little bit more. And I really haven't seen a lot
Speaker 1: of flash plays for him. Let's talk about Simi Fehoko
Speaker 1: wide receiver, um at this being the draft nerd that
Speaker 1: I am like that. I mean, I thought you'll say it.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that the next two And I thought
Speaker 1: you were talking about ball in there. Okay, is that
Speaker 1: what you were saying, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: It's been below for Ball, he's got ankle injury with Yeah,
Speaker 1: I though you're saying below for both of them, So
Speaker 1: it's kind of it's kind of similar, Like you know, people,
Speaker 1: the thing on Ball was like he'd be a much
Speaker 1: higher draft pick without the domestic violence. It hasn't looked
Speaker 1: like that. It didn't look like it in the spring.
Speaker 1: It hasn't looked like it out here. Um, he's hurt
Speaker 1: right now, so it's below Simi. The thing is like fifth,
Speaker 1: fifth round pick. You're you're like, oh, any same thing.
Speaker 1: You're like, anything you get from him is gravy. But
Speaker 1: go ahead, No, no, I'm laughing. He keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1: He's six to four and runs a four four. He's
Speaker 1: big on TikTok. He's got a TikTok. He's Will mcclay's
Speaker 1: pet cat, Like that's the guy. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you if you want me to, I'm I love
Speaker 1: all my guys, but like Simmy was a guy I
Speaker 1: was excited about. And so everybody builds these expectations like
Speaker 1: we got it, we got the next got the next day,
Speaker 1: three steal Um, So I don't. He hasn't been that
Speaker 1: good that everybody's made some no he has looked good
Speaker 1: out here, but I think he's probably right where you
Speaker 1: where he should be as opposed. You know, at one
Speaker 1: point in the spring, people were like, this guy should
Speaker 1: have been a top fifty pill Like, no, calm down,
Speaker 1: change the question. Not when he was drafted. How about
Speaker 1: heading into camp after we've because heading into camp, we
Speaker 1: were like this camp right here, we were like, this guy,
Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything of the Sunday he's done more
Speaker 1: out here. And and I remember writing a note or
Speaker 1: something about that because I was looking at his career.
Speaker 1: He had a decent career at Stanford and he was
Speaker 1: doing okay. Then he plays it. You see LA's last game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sixteen catches, two thirty I think two or three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: about an hour from here, and I'm like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he's a southern California guy. You know. Then he
Speaker 1: comes out in the first couple of days of practice
Speaker 1: and he's looking pretty good. He's kind of tapered off
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. It'll be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: happens because he's a draft pick. But I don't think
Speaker 1: he's been better than the league turner. I don't even
Speaker 1: think he's been better than O Cyrus Mitchell number fourteen.
Speaker 1: A lot of those guys have had good cans that.
Speaker 1: But that's the fun thing about the games is there's
Speaker 1: these guys are so easy to notice because the ball
Speaker 1: goes through the air and you get you get to
Speaker 1: run thirty reps per practice, even though even the second
Speaker 1: and third string guys get a ton of reps, especially
Speaker 1: with a Marian gallop out. While on Thursday, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get targeted three times. Yeah, and maybe one of them
Speaker 1: is more than five or six yards down the field,
Speaker 1: so you better make the most of it. Yep, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. All right, let's talk about future Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer Quintin Bohanna Abo. I might owe you an apology.
Speaker 1: He's not he's knocking to start. He's not at all
Speaker 1: of ye, he's not. He's not gonna start either. That's
Speaker 1: you don't think, no, at least not snap probably not probably.
Speaker 1: But he looks really good. I like him. He doesn't.
Speaker 1: He does not get moved easily. Can y'all still hear me?
Speaker 1: I feel like I cut out So he doesn't get
Speaker 1: moved easily. He's he's a hoss and he moves people,
Speaker 1: and he he penetrates. Will you know that's not his
Speaker 1: m O. He's a trash can full of dirt right, Well,
Speaker 1: he gets into the backfield better than I would expect
Speaker 1: a trash can full of dirt too. I like the
Speaker 1: way he goes kind of laterally too. It's a good
Speaker 1: it was a good thirty pounds that he lost, you know,
Speaker 1: because at three fifty he was just a different guy
Speaker 1: there and and but now he's like a three twenty five,
Speaker 1: three thirty and he's still, like to Dave's point, doesn't
Speaker 1: get moved. But he's a lot more probably more agile
Speaker 1: um and I think he's gonna be I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting with him as well, because it's not
Speaker 1: like Nashan Ride or somebody where you know, you draft
Speaker 1: him and you know, maybe the next guy on your
Speaker 1: list here or that a guy that could probably make
Speaker 1: the team, but maybe inactive. I mean, if Bohanna's on
Speaker 1: the team, you need to use him because nobody else
Speaker 1: can do what he does. So it'll be it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see if he is a guy that it
Speaker 1: makes the He's gonna make the team, I believe, I
Speaker 1: think says he does. He make the forty six game
Speaker 1: day roster, because what good is he going to be
Speaker 1: inactive if he's just sitting over there with with a
Speaker 1: with a four X. I think so much that depends
Speaker 1: on what's happening with Tristan Hill. Yeah, if Tristan Hill
Speaker 1: is a six week pop guy, then didn't I think
Speaker 1: there's a good chance Bohanna's gonna be Let's say he is.
Speaker 1: Who are your defensive tackles in the game like week one,
Speaker 1: I think you already talked about Gallimore, Neville Gallimore, Brent Urban,
Speaker 1: Carlos Watkins, Quentin Bohannah. Yeah, wait, who am I forgetting? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I think but but I think Urban.
Speaker 1: I think Urban's kind of a guy you have to
Speaker 1: think about as kind of an in slash tackle, like
Speaker 1: their moving him around. He's playing both. So on game day,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you necessarily, like I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have four defense, Yeah, nine active, you could probably
Speaker 1: gonna have four. He's he's a Tyrone Crawford. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have four that a defensive tackles. You're probably gonna have
Speaker 1: four defensive end. You're gonna have Urban that can pop one.
Speaker 1: Watkins is the same way. By the way he's done
Speaker 1: five technique law Gregory Doran's arms and um and probably
Speaker 1: bash him Basha. Chauncey can be a Chauncey seems like
Speaker 1: a game day and active. Yeah, Chauncey's the guy that
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to work his way in which not
Speaker 1: to get ahead of ourselves. But do you remember last
Speaker 1: year on cutdown day like or cutdown weekend? I should
Speaker 1: say how like tricky they got with it. You know,
Speaker 1: they they cut a couple guys knowing they would. You know,
Speaker 1: CJ got cut for like eighteen hours. Remember they're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. They're gonna have to do stuff like that
Speaker 1: again this year. I think they're gonna get They're gonna
Speaker 1: get weird to make sure they accommodate all these guys.
Speaker 1: You cut, you cut a guy, oh, because what happens
Speaker 1: is you'll have an injured player that you have to
Speaker 1: get have to be on the final roster. On the roster,
Speaker 1: so you cut, you cut a veteran player, right who
Speaker 1: you know you can talk into and say, listen, don't
Speaker 1: don't sign. You can't get claimed because you're a veteran.
Speaker 1: Don't sign with anyone else signed with US. I just
Speaker 1: pure hunch on my part, But I wonder if we
Speaker 1: see something like that with Tristan if he's not ready,
Speaker 1: and like keep him on the roster and stash him
Speaker 1: until later and cut a guy and all that fun stuff,
Speaker 1: so it'll be good. Could Gholston be that's what's his
Speaker 1: injury again? Hamstring? That shouldn't be that bad. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: think I would have thought we would have seen him
Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, obviously, all right, real quick, Israel above. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been pretty good. These these late round guys have
Speaker 1: been impressive, and you know, like we don't have the tape,
Speaker 1: so who knows what all he I'm sure he's messed
Speaker 1: up plenty of things playing back there, but he's long.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about him at the end of
Speaker 1: the other show, Like he gets to the football, he's
Speaker 1: had a couple of picks, he's broken up some passes. Uh,
Speaker 1: he just he seems like he flashes and I kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, I get. I don't want to say I
Speaker 1: wrote him off, but I was like, Okay, he was
Speaker 1: a cornerback, but he's already moving to safety before he
Speaker 1: even gets here. Like that doesn't I don't know how
Speaker 1: promising that is, but made an impression on his teammates.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's good. That was like funny.
Speaker 1: He was one of the guys that for those that
Speaker 1: don't know, you gotta go back and watch the video
Speaker 1: if you have him. But he was one of the
Speaker 1: guys that was pointed out by a few players as
Speaker 1: the guy that on the team that they would not
Speaker 1: allow to date their sister on national sister's days. Da
Speaker 1: Dak and Randy had the best answers to that question.
Speaker 1: Dak was like nobody half the team. Randy was like
Speaker 1: none of these guys none. It was like smart, very smart,
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't know what what I don't
Speaker 1: know what Israel or CJ or Diggs Digs. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, I think a few people are
Speaker 1: kind of like that. I think the Vikings also had that.
Speaker 1: And his brother was that award. Yeah, like those Diggs boys.
Speaker 1: I don't know Hairphone, No, he's he's uh. Israel has
Speaker 1: been above because I don't have high expectations for anybody
Speaker 1: that gets drafted after the fourth round, and so if
Speaker 1: you're doing anything, if you're doing anything, I think it's good.
Speaker 1: So Matt farnioc um. Now I don't think as as
Speaker 1: as good. If so, I don't believe they would, you know,
Speaker 1: be putting in uh Connor Williams to try that out center.
Speaker 1: It looks messy when he plays center. He's got some
Speaker 1: snapping issues. Yeah, what about guard? I haven't noticed, and
Speaker 1: which again, seventh round pick. My expectations are the lowest
Speaker 1: of the low and so I wouldn't say he's been
Speaker 1: below my expectations. And my expectations just weren't very high.
Speaker 1: You know, when you when you get a guy in
Speaker 1: the draft that's like, well, he's played center, he's played guard,
Speaker 1: he's played tackle. That's awesome, and he's drafted in the
Speaker 1: seventh round. Because if he was this Swiss army knife
Speaker 1: that was cutting everything every single time at every position,
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this is this is outstanding. But it's
Speaker 1: this seems it smells like a master of all you know,
Speaker 1: or jack of all trades, master of none type of
Speaker 1: thing and that and and that's hard to do. You
Speaker 1: can't just throw guys around all the time. Not everybody
Speaker 1: picks it up. And so it helped it ed Nebraska
Speaker 1: because hey, this guy can give any any he gets
Speaker 1: in there and he can help. But when it's time
Speaker 1: to evaluate him, he's never really great at one thing
Speaker 1: and it probably hurts him. So versatility we stay this
Speaker 1: whole time. Position flex versatility. While it might it might
Speaker 1: help you get on the team or whatever, it doesn't
Speaker 1: always help your development. That's why what Micah Parsons to
Speaker 1: go full circle on this, That's why Micah Parsons is
Speaker 1: so impressive to move around in four spots and for
Speaker 1: this point, excel at it all right, real quick, before
Speaker 1: we end the show, I want you guys too quickly.
Speaker 1: Each one of you give me one player or position
Speaker 1: and you're going to be watching here in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game and what you're looking to find out
Speaker 1: about that player or our position. Let's start with you,
Speaker 1: daveon Ah. This is cheating because it's so easy. But
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the news. I'm really excited. I'm so
Speaker 1: serious too, Like I'm not being sarcastic. I think the
Speaker 1: poor guy, like the guy didn't have a preseason, he
Speaker 1: didn't get to do any of this last year. Hey, congratulations,
Speaker 1: and you're the starting quarterback because everybody else is dead.
Speaker 1: Go fight off Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham please on
Speaker 1: National TV. So now he like this is the environment
Speaker 1: he belongs in. Probably you know, he's a third string guy.
Speaker 1: He's gonna get to go against third string guys. By
Speaker 1: the way, He's from Pittsburgh, so I'm sure a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of people he knows are gonna make you drive
Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, against his childhood team by the way. Um,
Speaker 1: so that's really exciting. This is something that he should
Speaker 1: have gotten to do last year, and I hope he
Speaker 1: you know, I think he'll probably look better going against
Speaker 1: the lower level of talent, So that'll be fun. Nick
Speaker 1: god Man, I mean, I go all over the place here. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, what I'm trying to find out is what
Speaker 1: can we take from this game? So what position are
Speaker 1: we gonna be able to see something and make a
Speaker 1: you know, make a real impression. I'll say the defensive tackle,
Speaker 1: defensive line there I want to see because those guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna get in there. I want to see,
Speaker 1: uh Digizu. I want to see hopefully Galla Moore will
Speaker 1: play some you know, really that whole front seven. You know,
Speaker 1: you could say Mike and all that, but just just
Speaker 1: kind of how they rotate. I guess. I guess to
Speaker 1: give you a real answer, I want to see how
Speaker 1: they kind of line up. I want to see the
Speaker 1: line up, Quinn, what does he do again? You gotta
Speaker 1: be vanilla. They're not gonna be, but I just kind
Speaker 1: of want to see what it looks like. Even vanilla
Speaker 1: would be nice, though, because like it's so hard to
Speaker 1: get a read on what they're trying to do here
Speaker 1: and by you know, if we tried to break it
Speaker 1: down too much, they'd freak out on us. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna be on National TV Thursday. You can't completely
Speaker 1: hide it. So at the very least, it'll be nice
Speaker 1: to be like, all right on second and eight, Urban
Speaker 1: was out at five Technique and this guy was doing
Speaker 1: that and like you just kind of have an idea
Speaker 1: of the shape, because I know that sounds dumb, but
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have that right now. And
Speaker 1: usually in camps you see like predominantly first teams out there,
Speaker 1: you see, this guy's gonna always line up here, this
Speaker 1: guy's gonna always like that is It's not It is
Speaker 1: so different from that in this camp, more than any
Speaker 1: other camp I've ever been been a part of, or
Speaker 1: watched up close and personal. Yeah, and I'll say this
Speaker 1: to you know, it's not just rookies that are going
Speaker 1: to get out here and play their first time there.
Speaker 1: I bet you you've got ten to twelve guys that
Speaker 1: have never played a preseason game before, Guys that have
Speaker 1: played a lot of Terrence Steele's played, Nucci has played,
Speaker 1: these guys have played, Reggie Robinson has played some games
Speaker 1: they haven't played. Connor McGovern has not played a preseason game.
Speaker 1: So it's amazing. So there are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that haven't gotten an opportunity to play. That's terrible. I
Speaker 1: haven't got, you know, a lot of guys that's been
Speaker 1: able to play in situations where they should be able
Speaker 1: to at least compete, you know. So that's exciting. All right,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys joining us. Like I said, we've
Speaker 1: got a lot going on over the next few days.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check the website. We'll have schedules up
Speaker 1: to let you know when things will be happening. Make
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