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Speaker 2: life after the NFL? Is there? Or well? Well, he

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Speaker 2: Matt McClung and the three peat? Mech Now USA Canada hockey?

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Speaker 2: That was epic three to one for the good guys

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Speaker 2: a game. Oh yeah, pitchers and catchers report, But are

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Speaker 2: yet to give you the one last look as to

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl paging the Philadelphia Eagles likable, impressive, dominant, superlative,

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Speaker 2: called them champions. Now let the copycat offseason begin as

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Speaker 2: people start to analyze, how the hell did they do

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Speaker 2: this with such raw efficiency? If you saw the parade,

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Speaker 2: there was a bit of a metaphor Howie Roseman. They're brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Wonder Kin gam who once wrote a letter to every

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Speaker 2: NFL team saying I've never even played football or stepped

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Speaker 2: history of football. Wrote over thirteen hundred letters to all

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Speaker 2: least meet this guy. Ironically, he didn't have an opening,

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Speaker 2: but he knew someone who did. If you saw Howie

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Speaker 2: Roseman get hit in the head with a beer can

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Speaker 2: bleed for you. Philadelphia, so on brand, so resilient, so clever.

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Speaker 2: You want to know the Eagles secret formula, I just

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Speaker 2: told you it's Howie Roseman. A lot did he do it?

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Speaker 2: Because everybody's gonna try to figure it out now here's

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Speaker 2: all you gotta do. First of all, Howie Roseman built

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Speaker 2: this Super Bowl champion by winning in every single facet

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Speaker 2: of roster construction. Hell, that doesn't hit home for anybody

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Speaker 2: more than me. I covered ten Detroit Lions drafts, and

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Speaker 2: Here's how the Eagles did it. In case your rival

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Speaker 2: GM who's taking notes, one, draft well, draft very well

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Speaker 2: I got to do, right, Well, here's what Holly Roseman did.

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Speaker 2: The Eels have had exactly twenty seven draft picks in

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Speaker 2: four were still on the team, and eleven of them

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Speaker 2: are absolutely significant contributors. Jalen Hurts, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Carter. Another strategy. One of the things Howie Roseman

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Speaker 2: likes to do is focus on players who produced against

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Speaker 2: top college competition. If you look at Holly Roseman's draft board,

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Speaker 2: the greatest pick of this are Uah was the seventh

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Speaker 2: nobody's perfect. I guess you don't. You want to find

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Speaker 2: the ward on Lincoln's knows. Howy Roseman actually drafted Jalen

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Speaker 2: Rager one spot ahead of Justin Jefferson. Okay, okay, Babe

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Speaker 2: not only draft well, Howie Roseman, they win the majority

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Speaker 2: the last five years, he essentially moved the already benched

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Speaker 2: he picked their pockets. Have them arrested. Howie Roseman wins

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Speaker 2: Philly maximizes every single dollar. Now. Their latest offseason, believe

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Speaker 2: But the other thing that Holly Roseman does better than

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Speaker 2: That Carson Wentz trade was at the time saddled with

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Speaker 2: Fast forward to five years from now, the Eagles salary

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Speaker 2: Now only eight teams have pushed money that far into

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Speaker 2: But Roseman tried to tell people four years ago they

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Speaker 2: his quote, quote Howie Roseman, it's no different than when

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Speaker 2: pretty smart, isn't he. So any team that refuses to

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Speaker 2: For perspective, here were the twenty twenty four cap hits

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Speaker 2: But I don't think Holly Roseman's to work about it.

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Speaker 2: Here's another quote from four years ago. He said, quote,

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Speaker 2: He's proven. It's incredible. He knows how to draft, he

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Speaker 2: By the way, he also knows how to manage the

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Speaker 2: in about five minutes. Doug Anderson, my good buddy, a

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Speaker 2: my show before. When DeMar Hamlin went down, we asked

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Speaker 2: Doug what happened? He called the commocial quartus. He nailed

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Speaker 2: it and said Tomar Hamlin would be back. He is.

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Speaker 2: Thuk said he's going to be fine, and he was.

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Speaker 2: Now pictures and catchers are reporting there's a broad consensus

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Speaker 2: Just getting started. Welcome and a gentleman, a good, good

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Speaker 2: buddy of mine, going back to high school. We've been

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Speaker 2: on our show many times. He nailed the Damorrow Hamlin situation,

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Speaker 4: Greg, glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: So let's take it from the top, because pictures and

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Speaker 2: but it's not really working. Take that anywhere you want,

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Speaker 2: So Doug hold that thought, because I'm going to add

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Speaker 4: And we're quite good.

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Speaker 2: So here's where I'm going with that. Pal As a hitter,

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Speaker 4: When you and I met, you had little league season

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Speaker 2: Time with doctor Doug Anderson, big time chiropractor doctor in Brea, California,

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Speaker 2: works with major athletes, olympians, et cetera. All right, let's

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Speaker 2: focus back on the high school level and college level. Overall,

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Speaker 4: Well, well, what's causing it is is the VLO. It's

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Speaker 5: They're on them.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're all on roches cup problems. And guess

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Speaker 4: what it works because the roachander cup has four little

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Speaker 4: muscles that state wise, the shoulders wint underneath the big

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Speaker 4: strong chest, shoulder and back muscles. This. But unfortunately here

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Speaker 4: there's you know, there's there's no way to do this

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Speaker 4: other than to say, you know, you've got to pace yourself. Hey,

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Speaker 4: no one Ryan didn't throw you know, he didn't start

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Speaker 4: out the game, nor to kullbacks ord to get it

437
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Speaker 4: thrown as hard as they can because they knew they

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Speaker 4: have to say something in the tank because they have

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Speaker 4: to go. No one is going to pace themselves to day.

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Speaker 4: And I wouldn't paste myself either unless you force them to.

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Speaker 4: So again, I think it's an obvious solution is three

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Speaker 4: pitchers per game for the first night innings, you know,

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Speaker 4: and they're gonna have to pay themselves. And I think

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Speaker 4: that happens boom. You're gonna see the injuries go down,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna see batting come back up.

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Speaker 2: Dereg I got to share this with you because you're

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Speaker 2: a tremendous stat, Maven, and I know for a fact

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Speaker 2: that Nolan Ryan would ride the bike for an hour

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Speaker 2: after every start to strengthen his legs. But in June

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Speaker 2: seventy four, when Nolan Ryan was with the Angels, he

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Speaker 2: actually threw two hundred and thirty five pitches in one

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Speaker 2: game against the Boston Red Sox. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: he made his next start on three days and won

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Speaker 2: the game. Did it recon arm No, he pitched nineteen

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Speaker 2: more years. Where am I going with this? You brought

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Speaker 2: up something a minute ago that I can't resist. You

457
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Speaker 2: talked about the amazing staffs and medical staffs the team

458
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Speaker 2: has privately. Teams have privately. Tommy Lesora used to be

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Speaker 2: really pissed off and pitchers got hurt and players got her.

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Speaker 2: For that matter, he once started yellow one day. He says,

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's wrong with you guys. This team's

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Speaker 2: got three doctors, seven trainers, massage therapists, medicine men, blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. He goes hell. Back when I was playing,

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Speaker 2: we had one trainer and one bottle of rubbing alcohol,

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Speaker 2: and he usually drank it all by the seventh inning.

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Speaker 2: The question is dog is what what can these staffs

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Speaker 2: do because we are finding out, believe it or not,

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Speaker 2: my research shows that in recent seasons, the injury spike

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Speaker 2: is actually happening in spring training. Pitcher injuries have much

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Speaker 2: greater before the season, but they start to decline in season.

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Speaker 2: What's your theory on both of those issues. Training staff's

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Speaker 2: doing a better job and injuries in spring training versus

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Speaker 2: the regular season.

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's the guys that are already

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Speaker 4: on the verge of getting in trouble, That's what I think.

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Speaker 4: And the guys that and the guys that are the

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Speaker 4: guys or the few that have that little sticker ligament

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Speaker 4: are going to last longer.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: You know, there's been over one thousand Tommy John surgeries

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Speaker 4: and MLBS, you know since you know, since nineteen seventy four,

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Speaker 4: over one thousand of them seventy percent forty has happened

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Speaker 4: in the last ten years. Thirty five percent of all

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Speaker 4: MLB pitchers have had Tommy John surgery and fifty percent

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Speaker 4: of the hardest throwers had Tommy John surgery. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: there it is.

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Speaker 2: Last thing, Doug great stuff is always We'll be looking

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Speaker 2: for the return of Shoho tany this year on the mound.

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Speaker 2: You correctly predicted tomor Hamlin Aaron Rodgers into a tongue

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Speaker 2: of ALOA. I don't think he's going to start at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the season, but we'll see him sooner

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Speaker 2: rather than later. How do you expect Shoyo Tani to

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Speaker 2: fare this year in terms of his durability on the mound?

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Speaker 4: Well, as a fan, I sure am hopeful, and hopefully

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Speaker 4: it's because you know, they're going to have a six

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Speaker 4: man rotation, so I would be surprised to see him

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Speaker 4: go on top in one hundred. But if he can

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Speaker 4: do ninety seven ninety eight, I'm gonna be I'm going

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Speaker 4: to be happy. So that's that's my hope for show.

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Speaker 2: Hey, well, the question is, well, you think he'll I

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Speaker 2: assume the Dodgers to be back in the postseason. You

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Speaker 2: think he'll remain healthy enough on the mound after this

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Speaker 2: surgery to be able to pitch into the postseason.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I think? I think there's a damn

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Speaker 4: good chance he will, because again that the Dodger strengths, conditioning, performance, medical,

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Speaker 4: those guys, I mean, it's a giant staff and they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be watching him. You know, he's gonna be under

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Speaker 4: a microscope every single I mean, every single pitch he throws.

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Speaker 4: They're going to analyze. So I'm anticipating that we're not

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Speaker 4: going to have the catastrophea last season, which, ironically right,

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Speaker 4: they won the whole thing anyway, even though they didn't

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Speaker 4: have a single man on the postseason staff that pitched

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Speaker 4: one hundred innings, nor do they have a single pitcher

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Speaker 4: that won that won ten games, and yet they won

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Speaker 4: the whole thing. So I think this year, even if

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Speaker 4: even if half of their guys go down, shit, they've

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Speaker 4: got They've got ten you know, pitchers that most teams

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Speaker 4: would like. So I think it's you know again, they're

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Speaker 4: going to have a six path rotation with extra rest,

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Speaker 4: So I'm hoping that that's gonna that's gonna solve a

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Speaker 4: lot of the problem at rest until we change the

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Speaker 4: rules and go to my idea, which by the way,

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Speaker 4: was inspired by you telling me, hey, go go figure

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Speaker 4: out the other bolt thing, I think I've got to

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Speaker 4: figure it out. I think we have to have him

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Speaker 4: taste themselves. I don't think they're going to taste themselves

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Speaker 4: until we forced them to do so by a real change.

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Speaker 2: Doug great stuff. Major League Baseball claims they're investing the

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Speaker 2: manpower to prevent this epidemic. We'll see. We're going to

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Speaker 2: have you on sooner rather than later to see how

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Speaker 2: the progress goes as a new season of upon us.

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Speaker 4: Thanks again, Doug, You're very welcome, Bertie, take care.

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Speaker 2: That is Doug Anderson, doctor Doug Anderson and brea a

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Speaker 2: man a wealth of knowledge in sports and kinesiology, sports

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Speaker 2: injury surgeries, and not just baseball. I mean football. Told

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Speaker 2: you he nailed the Tomorrow Hamlet thing. He nailed Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers thing to a right and down the line. And

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is trying to get out in front

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Speaker 2: of this. Okay. They claim all their research and their

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Speaker 2: implementation of intelligent programs have to do with off seat

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Speaker 2: and picture training and early season workouts and workloads, non

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Speaker 2: game between game training activities, biomechanics and pitching styles, measuring

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00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: picture fatigue, picture injury trends, and try to manage injury

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Speaker 2: management and other foreign leagues not just here but in

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Speaker 2: Japan and Korea. Amateur baseball and their injury risk factors.

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Speaker 2: The injury rate of amateur players in the US versus

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Speaker 2: amateur players and other countries is different. Why they claim

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Speaker 2: they're looking into that. I guess we're all gonna find

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Speaker 2: out why. Hey, be sure to tune in check out

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Speaker 2: going to get to the Donk contest and Mac McClung

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Speaker 2: and Anthony Davis and Draymond Green and Luca and even

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Speaker 2: Tristan Thompson with a little dust up. Mark Medino will

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Speaker 2: be joining us in about twenty minutes. But first, is

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Speaker 2: it true his Juan Soto already pissed off the Mets

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Speaker 2: fan base? Is Juan Soto off to a rocky start

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Speaker 2: with the Mets and he's only been there eight weeks.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's going on coming up you decide. Hi,

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fradle, we are coming you live from the tyreq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios here in Las Vegas. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Keep it loted. You're listening to The Bernie Fraddle Show

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. How right back at the Bernie

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Speaker 2: Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, about thirteen minutes away from

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Speaker 2: Mark Medina Medina Magic Shee. You think there's some things

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00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: to talk about in the NBA. By the way, I

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Speaker 2: got a tweet from one of my listeners, Patrick Albert.

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Speaker 2: He says, how about talking USA Versus Canada hockey game?

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Speaker 2: It was a big story for many levels. Great show

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Speaker 2: was always don't worry, man, I won't forget national audiences

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Speaker 2: don't have a hell of a lot of love and

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Speaker 2: appetite for NHL hockey. And it's a bit of an

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Speaker 2: enough butter knee. But I got to play the hits.

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Speaker 2: I covered the Red Wings for years, man, I was

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Speaker 2: privileged to be up close and personal Scottie Bowman. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get to it. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: in the fourth hour of the show. If anybody doubts

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Speaker 2: whether or not there's a rivalry or some people care

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Speaker 2: enough people care about USA Versus Canada, just look at

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Speaker 2: the first ten seconds of the opening periods. These two

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Speaker 2: countries hadn't played a best on best game in almost

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Speaker 2: ten years. The juice has got flown incredible. The game

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00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: was played Manchiol, the star spangled banner was booed. Gottr

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Speaker 2: Hellibuck clearly the better goalie. It was clear that the

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Speaker 2: Team USA had the advantage of net and it proved.

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Speaker 2: But I'll get to you. I'll get to you some takeaways.

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Speaker 2: In the fourth hour. Pitchers and catchers are in camp.

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Speaker 2: She ain't gonna be long now baseball this year, I'm

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Speaker 2: here for it. Man is one Soto. Remember that one

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Speaker 2: Soto is the one who got seven hundred and sixty

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Speaker 2: five million dollars to sign with the New York Mets.

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Speaker 2: Seventy five million dollars signing bonus. He's only going to

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Speaker 2: make forty seven million each of the next two years,

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Speaker 2: forty three million and twenty twenty seven and forty seven

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Speaker 2: man and twenty eight and twenty nine and forty six

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Speaker 2: man each of the remaining final ten seasons. You know,

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Speaker 2: that's only fifty one million a year on the average,

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Speaker 2: nine hundred and eighty thousand a week, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: forty thousand a day, six thousand dollars an hour. And

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Speaker 2: then in the last minute, it took me to recite

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Speaker 2: that he made one hundred Bucks, How was your day?

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Speaker 2: SODA's only been with the Mets, shish, what eight weeks,

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Speaker 2: and it looks like he's already made a public relations

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Speaker 2: club with the guy who they couldn't wait to kicking

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Speaker 2: the butt out of New York, the Bronx, that is,

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Speaker 2: you know what do you wanted them? But then the

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00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: minute he rejected you, the foul language and the four

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Speaker 2: letter words and some of the incredibly funny YouTube and

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Speaker 2: TikTok videos just ruled the guy or like a runned mule.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just destroyed him. But the Mets about

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Speaker 2: a week ago held their quote unquote annual Okay, let

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Speaker 2: me try that again in English. I can do better.

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Speaker 2: The Mets have an annual event called quote Amazing Day,

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Speaker 2: you know the Amazing Mets. It's held right at City

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Speaker 2: Field in Queens. It's on a Saturday, and the damn

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Speaker 2: things sells out every year and it sold out this year.

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Speaker 2: And the beauty of it is it gives fans an

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Speaker 2: opportunity to meet players who did this in Detroit for

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Speaker 2: fifteen years on covered with the Tigers. They have Tiger Fests,

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Speaker 2: so the people in cold weather clowns, you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about. It just gets your juices flowing, and

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Speaker 2: it gives the fans an opportunity to meet players, get

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Speaker 2: a kind of a behind the scenes look at the ballpark.

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Speaker 2: But one player that fans did not get to interact

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Speaker 2: with was no. Not Alweiss, not Ron Sooboo, not Tom sever,

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Speaker 2: not Gary Gentry, not Dwight Gooden, not Darryl Strawberry. It

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Speaker 2: was Juan Soto. One Hello, Hello, this sing on paiging

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Speaker 2: Juan Soto. Apparently the Mets announced that morning with no

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Speaker 2: notice that Sodo would not be able to attend amazingly

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Speaker 2: because of quote flight difficulties. There were no further details provided.

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Speaker 2: Is that because I hate to be that guy? Is

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Speaker 2: that because the reason there were no further details is

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Speaker 2: because this book's missing a chapter and that's a chapter

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Speaker 2: that the Mets did not care to share. Is that possible?

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Speaker 2: You see a couple of days before, Soto was attending

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Speaker 2: Game seven of the Light of Championship series between Leoni's

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Speaker 2: Del Escodito and Tigre's De Lise in the Dominican Republic.

642
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 2: Soda was there for that matter of fact, he was

643
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: in the dugout with light set. It was very animated.

644
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: Throughout the game. Never even played in that league for

645
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: obvious reasons, but he's very open about loving the league

646
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 2: and wanting to be in that league at some point

647
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: and getting fired up over the game. And there's plenty

648
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: of video with Juan Soto there, so he could make

649
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: it to tigery As de Laici as they were trying

650
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: to become the first lead them team. Stop me for

651
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: this all year to three pet Okay, yeah, well, you

652
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: can watch it on MLB dot com. It turns out

653
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: that Soto is an honorary member of LESI who lost

654
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 2: the game six to five. He's been open about wanting

655
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 2: to play in the Deadmacon win a league for Lys

656
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: at some point. Why would you do that? So either

657
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 2: Sodo actually had flight difficulties and milked it for what

658
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: it was worth. Oh, he just planned to remainder the

659
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Dominican Republic all along. Now, if you're a Mets fan,

660
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 2: you have a damn complaint. This is the lame excuse.

661
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: This is a bad look for a player who just

662
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: signed a fifteen year, seven hundred and sixty five million

663
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 2: dollar contract to not show up for their version of

664
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Speaker 2: fan fest. Oh, by the way, Soto also gets a

665
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: free use of a luxury suite up to four premium

666
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 2: tickets behind home plate for regular season in postseason for

667
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 2: Mets home games. So sweet's not enough. He gets four

668
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: of the highest priced seats in the house. The Yankees,

669
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 2: whose last offer to Soto was seven hundred and sixty

670
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: million for sixteen years, which he turned down, said hell no,

671
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 2: not no, not up in year. We're not giving you

672
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: free suite. We didn't give one to Aaron Judge, we

673
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: didn't give one to Aaron Jeter. We're not giving one

674
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: to you. Got it, Juan Soto, you pay for it,

675
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 2: he said. Knack Audios also win the deal the number

676
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: twenty two claws. You know who wore number twenty two

677
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: for the Mets last year. Of course you do, Brett Batty.

678
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: Sure everybody knows that he's won it for three seasons.

679
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: Apparently Soto did not have the class to do what

680
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: Johio Tani did by Joe Kelly a Porsche so he

681
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: could get the number seventeen he wanted, or what Steve

682
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: Garver you did for my buddy Tim Flannery back in

683
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: the day when he wanted number six. When Garv got

684
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: traded to the Padres took Plan up to San fran

685
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: bought him a twelve hundred dollars suit that was nineteen

686
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: eighty three. Very nice gesture. He didn't give Betty anything.

687
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,720
Speaker 2: It's part of his contract. But the one thing Soto

688
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: does have to do is by the remaining allotment of

689
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: Baty number twenty two merchandise. Okay, it's per rule. Sodo

690
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: also get security for him and his family for all

691
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: road and home games, five hundred thousand bonus for an MVP,

692
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: A million dollars for every MVP after that. Okay, I

693
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: could go on, but you really don't want me to

694
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: show up for FanFest, Sodo? What the hell is going

695
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: on with the Dominican Republic? That's so damn important. You're

696
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: already bugging me, and I got a feeling this might

697
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: not go well. I'm not wishing it on him, but

698
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: they're not off to a good start in the Little

699
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 2: Apple coming up, Mark Medina, Medina Magic, We got NBA.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked and listening to the Bernie Frattle Show

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711
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: There's always news twenty four to seven, three sixty five

712
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Speaker 2: three simple words. It's that time, Mark Medina, Medina Magic

713
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Speaker 2: every Saturday night on the Bernie Fradile Show, twelve midnight

714
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: Pacific Mark. As we say when I sign off every week,

715
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: we'll see what the news cycle brings. There's some new

716
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: things and there's some additional I would say information coming

717
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: out on some other stories. So let me first save aloha.

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Speaker 6: Are you I'm doing well? This is that mcmac mcclun

719
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 6: first ever three time dunk champion, first time ever in

720
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 6: the history of the league, monumental.

721
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Speaker 2: Just just absolutely scintillating. And I know as the NBA

722
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 2: All Star Week and continues to be immensely popular. We're

723
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: going to get to that in just a second. But

724
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: as we like to I like to pat myself on

725
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: the back. We have a journalistic bent. I got to

726
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: run this by you. According to somebody named Jerry Wolfel

727
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: of Wolfele's press box, with regard to the Luca trade,

728
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: is it true that the Mavericks initially approached Milwaukee about

729
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: swapping superstars? The Bucks said no. Then they turned their

730
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: attention to the Minnesota Timberwolves about training Luca for and no,

731
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: both teams refused. They moved on, and Luca is in

732
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Speaker 2: Los Angele. So let's just address that every so quickly.

733
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: Have you heard any of those allegations.

734
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that there were definitely some initial gauges

735
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 6: on you know, what the marketplace would be. Now. It's

736
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 6: really interesting, though, is Rob Pa Lincoln on record the

737
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 6: Lakers Cheryl Mander had said that Nico Harrison him talked

738
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 6: and said that they swore themselves to secrecy on moving

739
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 6: forward and they want to talk to other teams. But

740
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 6: I think that this happened ahead of that coffee conversation.

741
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 6: But it wasn't like they were in negotiations. It was

742
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 6: pretty made clear that the Bucks weren't interested in trading

743
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 6: the anathonse to Tacumpo.

744
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: End of discussion fair enough, Okay, so let's move on.

745
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's fair to overreact to

746
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 2: Thursday night's loss against Utah or was it Wednesday? And

747
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: I excuse me, the Lakers their second game with Luca

748
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: at all in company. But frankly, I think it exposed

749
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 2: some cracks in the armor. But moreover, we talked down

750
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: the phone the other day privately. You can address this

751
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: or not address this. I had heard that Luca is

752
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 2: really still sorting this out on his head and needed

753
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: a mental breaks from the All Star break, and allegedly,

754
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: I want to emphasize, allegedly was overheard saying all I

755
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: want the next few days is then I want to

756
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: get any FN calls from my coaches. Give me your privacy.

757
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: Can you speak to Luca's mental state, because I think

758
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: it's a story moving forward.

759
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's obviously a lot of fair questions

760
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 6: to ask about conditioning, and you know, frankly, perspective to

761
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 6: what extent does even matter. I'm of the belief that

762
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 6: he's twenty five years old, so it doesn't matter right now.

763
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 6: He led the match the finals last year, he's been

764
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 6: an MVP caliber player, but it doesn't mean that he

765
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 6: can't improve that now when to talk about the All

766
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 6: Star break, I just want to be clear here for

767
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 6: non participants, I think that's what every player is saying now.

768
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 6: In fairness to Luca, he is devoting part of his

769
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 6: All Star weekend also the training, so both things can

770
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 6: be the same. He's going to get a mental break,

771
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 6: he's going to take some time off, but then he's

772
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: also going to get back to the gym. But he

773
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 6: also wants to be left alone. But you know, frankly,

774
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 6: that's how all NBA players are true at all during

775
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: All Star weekend for that aren't participating. So I don't

776
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 6: see it as a major concern, you know, moving forward.

777
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: But obviously it's a result of oriented business. So if

778
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 6: his conditioning is an issue next season, yeah, let's have

779
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 6: a conversation. But I don't see this as a big

780
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 6: deal right now.

781
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: So you're scoopid me, big fellows. So Luke's even taken

782
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: some time to train this weekend, what do you do, like,

783
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 2: did he join Launch Theory Fitness or something. Look, yeah,

784
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 2: he had a three year deals.

785
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 6: He's doing that and doing some other gyms that they

786
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 6: want to get a plug, they can buy an ad

787
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: for your show.

788
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard it from a not very good source

789
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: that he was in a shop he was advanced shopping

790
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 2: for a line cuisines. Is that true?

791
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: That is.

792
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 6: No, I mean we don't I don't know the exact

793
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 6: timeline on what you know, how many days he's going

794
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 6: to devote to or getting away and when he's starting.

795
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 6: But we have to keep in mind that the Lakers

796
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,319
Speaker 6: don't play until next Wednesday, and so you know, I

797
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 6: think that their first practice will be Tuesday. So when

798
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 6: you look at the timeline, they've had off since Thursday

799
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 6: through Tuesday. Again, I think that both ideas can be true.

800
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 6: That you use the All Star break to get away,

801
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 6: take some time off, and then you start getting back

802
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 6: in the gym, because there's a significant amount of time.

803
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 6: I think given the context that you know, Luca had

804
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 6: gone through a pretty lengthy rehab the last two months.

805
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 6: He got two games in, but now his body's trying to,

806
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 6: you know, adjust to that workload. It's perfectly normal. So yeah, Bernie,

807
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 6: I don't see this going anywhere, but we'll see.

808
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: What happens versus. So I can't not have this conversation

809
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: without just ever so quickly taking a look at the

810
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: other side of the trade. Anthony Davis comes out like

811
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: house of fire and the irony, it's just the irony

812
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 2: of it all. He gets hurt and I've heard he's

813
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: going to be out several weeks, like four or five weeks.

814
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: What are you hearing about Anthony Davis.

815
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I want to be surprised if he's out for

816
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 6: another month because these abdominal injuries, they're pretty delicate. And

817
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 6: I think that the irony is as a keyword that

818
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 6: he hit on because we know Anthony Davis's injury history,

819
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 6: but this wasn't a Mark Williams like kind of trade

820
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 6: where the Lakers were hiding medicals and all of a

821
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: sudden came back to bite him. He got hurt in

822
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 6: his debut against Dallas in a freak play. We also know, yes,

823
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: ad has had an extensive injury history, but you and

824
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 6: I have discussed before. Ever since January of twenty twenty three,

825
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 6: he hasn't had major injuries. No one's ever going to

826
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 6: confuse Anthony Davis for ac Green, but he has been

827
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 6: you know, mostly available then, you know, having that nickname

828
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 6: that Charles Barkley gave them. As far as being street closed,

829
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 6: So what I'm getting at, Bernie is that it's obviously

830
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 6: bad misfortunes, especially in the context of the Mavericks trade

831
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 6: and all the criticism that came with it, and now

832
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 6: they don't have the main pillar of that trade available.

833
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 6: But these are really just kind of a rare confluence

834
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 6: of events. And Frank, we can happen to any player

835
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 6: at any given time.

836
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: Talk with Mark and Dina, but Diina Magic every Saturday

837
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 2: night til midnight here on the Bernie Fratto Show. Let's

838
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: start current and I work backward. Draymond Green had some

839
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: very candid comments and you'd find it spot to lie.

840
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: And I really don't think the NBA game is boring

841
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: because the too many threes or players that run fast,

842
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: and there's no substance mark in America. We need to

843
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: know context. Okay, there is no more Laker Celtics, Piston Celtics,

844
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 2: Magic Bird, Isaiah Bird, Parish, Lambeard, Jordan Rules versus Detroit.

845
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: It's missing feed. I believe in the game and the

846
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 2: players who play the game are in large part vacuous. However,

847
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: I'd like you to address Draymond Green's comments. Here's the

848
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: guy playing in the back nine, so hell why not

849
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: trust the apartment on the way out.

850
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean basically he says that he thinks the

851
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 6: NBA game is boring and it wrong. Well, there's a

852
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 6: lot of unpack here because I think that the NBA

853
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 6: game there's a lot more skill than the past. You know,

854
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 6: it's you could make the argument that shooting a basketball

855
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 6: requires more skill than just being a big guy that

856
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 6: can dunk, Like a lot of times you can dunk

857
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 6: because you're big and you're tall. Right, But I think

858
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 6: that again, two things can be true. There has the

859
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 6: current NBA game requires more skill, but some of the

860
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 6: competitive edge isn't there every single game. And I think

861
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 6: it's gotten saturated where everything just feels so transactional. There's

862
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 6: not as much of There might be the one on

863
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 6: one creativity, but there's not the creativity within a team

864
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 6: game and just seeing how you know, everyone's moving the

865
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 6: chess board. I think the game atmosphere also is different.

866
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 6: Everything in this world now feels transactional and there's not

867
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 6: as much of an excitement level over being part of

868
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 6: an event. And look, part of it is just the

869
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 6: times that we're in. People are on their phones, it's

870
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 6: in social media, people are consumed with having so many

871
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 6: options that it's inevitable that's going to be different than

872
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 6: a previous generation. But I think at the same time,

873
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 6: it can be avoidable if all parties, you know, players,

874
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 6: organizations and fans you know, really care more about the

875
00:49:55,600 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: game than the soap opera or the highlight reels. You know,

876
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 6: there's just seems to be even when I'm at games,

877
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 6: it's not the same kind of buzz. And you even

878
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 6: look at how game ops are. I mean, I'm in

879
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 6: so many arenas where it feels like the atmosphere is

880
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 6: loud because the music is loud and there's piped in,

881
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 6: you know, speakers that make it greater than what it is.

882
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 6: But when you actually look at the fan engagement, a

883
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 6: lot of them are on their phones or just.

884
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: Kind of that's fair, that's fair, But it's also the

885
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 2: same in Major League Baseball, where attendance isn't an all

886
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 2: time high the NFL, the the the interest is in

887
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: an all time high. I gotta tell you, buddy.

888
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 6: And I would say attendance for NBA games is pretty good.

889
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 2: Too, Okay, but why the game no one's calling the

890
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: NFL or the NBA or even hockey boring. I gotta

891
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: throw a flag on one thing, because listen, there's nothing

892
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: with respect to your premise and what you just said.

893
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: I can't take homage with any of it, but I

894
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: would like to just offer an alternative viewpoint. To imply

895
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: that the nineties Bulls were not skillful, or that the

896
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 2: eighties Celtics and Lakers or even Pistons were not skillful.

897
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, look at the roster composition though,

898
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 2: and the savoir faire and the panache that those players had.

899
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: I've said it a thousand times on my show. We

900
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 2: don't have royalty in this country. Our athletes and our

901
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 2: entertainers are our royalty. You get me, Bird, Michale Parrish,

902
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: Dennis Johnson, charismatic eyes, going all the way back to

903
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: Doctor J Magic Bird, even Isaiah Bill Lamba. These guy's

904
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 2: were quotable, interesting people. Steve Kerr was a member of

905
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 2: that Bulls. I am a big fan of JJ Reddick,

906
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: but he can take his comments down river. He's out

907
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: of his mind. If the nineties game was bad, it

908
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: started to be a little bit of a two on

909
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: two ISO league. But then to imply that the skill

910
00:51:58,560 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: wasn't deres silly.

911
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 6: When didn't I say the Lakers and the nineties Bulls

912
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 6: weren't skilled.

913
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 2: All I said, well, you you didn't. I just said

914
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: I didn't take average. I just said I wanted to

915
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: give an alternative viewpoint, right, okay, point correct the record.

916
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: My point is those comments Present Company excluded imply that

917
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: the skill level is so much higher now that you

918
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: really can't compare the game to back. Then that's crap.

919
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 6: No, I'm talking about I'm not talking about teams. I'm

920
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 6: talking about when you look at the way the game

921
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 6: is played, there is more skill involved. I mean, the

922
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 6: shooting is a lot better, right league wide. I'm not

923
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 6: talking about comparing dynasty teams. Those are dynasties for a reason.

924
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 6: I'm talking about when you're looking at the league, there

925
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 6: is more skill involved when it comes to shooting.

926
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 2: Don't have to be could come to town and Alex

927
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 2: English could go ahead.

928
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 6: All I'm saying is this, like, can you really debate

929
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 6: that it required it takes more skill to be an

930
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 6: elite shooter than it is to dunk a ball. Yes, yeah,

931
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: that's all. That's my point. Like to say that I'm implying, yeah,

932
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 6: that the nineties Bulls weren't great. I mean, where's this

933
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 6: coming from.

934
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 2: It's coming from an overarching uh group think.

935
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 7: But I didn't.

936
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 6: I didn't imply that.

937
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 2: But Mark, okay, let me let me, let me play

938
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 2: back to tape again. Present company excluded. I didn't take

939
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: umbrage with any of you said. I'm giving an alternative viewpoint.

940
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: We're trying to do is have an intellectual conversation they're

941
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 2: having to do with You got one of the major

942
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 2: stars of the game who's won championships, is going to

943
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame that says his own products boring.

944
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 2: Let's start there and go from there.

945
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, And what I was saying on why the games

946
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 6: feel boring is exactly what I said. It's the competitive

947
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 6: tense intensity isn't there as much, The feeling that every

948
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 6: game is important isn't there as much. The fan atmosphere

949
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 6: isn't the same kind of buzz. And I think the

950
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 6: thing that's tough about while we're talking about the state

951
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 6: of the game is that these things can be true

952
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 6: at once. I'm of the believer that the modern NBA

953
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 6: game there's more skilled than in the past. And again

954
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 6: I'm not comparing dynasties. I'm talking about the game itself.

955
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 6: But I will also say that the competitive intensity isn't

956
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 6: as high as it was in the past, and the

957
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 6: novelty of how exciting and important a game is is

958
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 6: not the same as it was from organizations, players and fans.

959
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 6: So there's a lot of gray area and some contradictory

960
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 6: elements that bleed into that. But two things can be

961
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 6: true at once.

962
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: All right. Just for the record, I am not blaming

963
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: the three point shot as the reason why the NBA

964
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: game is boring. Can you imagine the NBA without a

965
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 2: three pointer? It'd be it would be boring, Okay, yeah, yeah.

966
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 6: And I think, however, the one thing we also should

967
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 6: keep in mind, you know, and I'm validating what you're saying,

968
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 6: is that you know, we're talking All Star weekend twenty

969
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 6: five years ago. It was you know, it was also

970
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 6: in Oakland, the Bay Area at that point. That was

971
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 6: the last year before rule changes were made. Where it

972
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 6: is the impetus was to speed up the game, have

973
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 6: it be less physical, And the reason why the rule

974
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 6: changes were made then was that the game was seen

975
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 6: as boring and it was seen as though it's just

976
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 6: post Michael Jordan era. There's not enough skill it's too

977
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 6: many players being overly physical but not enough. And that

978
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 6: was what I'm getting at is all these things are

979
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 6: cyclical here, and so I think the game from a

980
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 6: skill level is better. But the reason to the point

981
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 6: that you're asking, why does someone like Draymond think the

982
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 6: game is boring? And do I agree? Is what I

983
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 6: talked about before, the competitive intensity and the importance that organizations,

984
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 6: players and fans have given to each regular season game.

985
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: Thought with Mark Medina Medina managing every Saturday night here

986
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Fratto Show. By the way, I just

987
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: got a text from Smash Parker said, what do you mean?

988
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 2: I was skillful too. We do it all here on

989
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 2: the show.

990
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 6: Mark all right, Bernie, Well tonight to show Saturday.

991
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: Don't forget to try that semi bonus spaghetti. Here's a deal.

992
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: Even the commissioner dished on the state of the game tonight,

993
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 2: and he kind of deferred to he demurred. That's a

994
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 2: legal term. To Steve Kerr, who recently told Bob Costs

995
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,960
Speaker 2: that he thought there was too much three point shooting

996
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: in the game, but he also thought the state of

997
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: the game was great. According to Steve Kerr, however, believe

998
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: there could be a fix that could improve the game,

999
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: but I don't really have one to suggest. There's a

1000
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 2: competition committee that's devoted to this kind of stuff. Can

1001
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 2: you take us behind the four walls and share what

1002
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 2: the competition committee talks about.

1003
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, they talk about the minutia and nuances and rule

1004
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,359
Speaker 6: chamin is. I mean literally every single year when they

1005
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 6: have Board of Governors meetings, So you know, sometimes it's

1006
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 6: not as noticeable because it's not a dramatic change, like

1007
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 6: every year, there'll be points of emphasis on what you know,

1008
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:18,479
Speaker 6: officials should enforce. And I feel like every single time

1009
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 6: every year there's an attention about okay, I have officials

1010
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 6: and forced flopping, right, But the competition committee also oversees

1011
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 6: rules that I was referencing that happened, you know, in

1012
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 6: the early two thousands that you know, Jerry Colangel was

1013
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 6: a part of where, you know, to to make the

1014
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 6: game more entertaining, more fast paced. They eliminated the hand

1015
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 6: checking rule, they allowed illegals, you know, they allowed zone defenses,

1016
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 6: and that was under the context that post Michael Jordan era,

1017
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 6: the NBA was just seen as a league without a

1018
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 6: definitive superstar that was overly physical, and it was low

1019
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 6: scoring and not entertaining to watch. So, you know, I

1020
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 6: think what Adam Silver was referring to here is that

1021
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 6: they discussed the stuff all the time, and so the

1022
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 6: league can always be tweaked as far as how, you know,

1023
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 6: how they enforce rules, what's more of a priority. You

1024
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 6: know what's interesting last year is that, you know, post

1025
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 6: All Star Break, they were indirectly telling officials to not

1026
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 6: call as many fouls because they felt like the free

1027
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 6: you know, the amount of time guys were at the

1028
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 6: free throw line, it was bogging down the game. And

1029
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 6: you saw post All Star Break there were not as

1030
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 6: many high scoring games, but a lot of coaches across

1031
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 6: the league thought the game was being played better because

1032
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 6: the whistles were stopping. So it's a very common thing

1033
00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 6: that you know, coaches are part of the committee and

1034
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 6: they talk every summer about what to do.

1035
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 2: Mark, I just got about twenty seconds, but your thoughts,

1036
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: please know, Steph versus going to rematch? How disappointed were

1037
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: the NBA with Caitlin Clark turned them down.

1038
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very disappointing. I mean every player, Steph, Sabrina, Caitlin,

1039
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 6: they have every right to turn it down, but it

1040
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 6: was such a successful event last year, and Caitlin Clark

1041
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 6: looks she doesn't need the NBA. She is a global

1042
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 6: superstar and I get her thought process. She wants to

1043
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 6: have the first All Star appearance under the WNBA umbrella

1044
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 6: when they're in Indianapolis. But no doubt the NBA is disappointed,

1045
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 6: but they'll try to do it again next year.

1046
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Mark great stuff is always already. Can't wait for next week, Pal,

1047
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 2: So we'll talk soon and you enjoy the rest of

1048
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 2: your NBA All Star weekend, well do.

1049
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,160
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1050
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,200
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1051
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,040
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1052
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,240
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1053
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1054
00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: what they said and oh, by the way, what what's

1055
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:04,479
Speaker 2: next for Aaron Rodgers. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're a company

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01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,880
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1057
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1058
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,280
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Speaker 2: You'll see this show posted right after we get off

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Speaker 2: the air. You know, in a world of problems, we've

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: got solutions. In a world of questions, we've got answers. Well, unless,

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Speaker 2: of course, it comes to Aaron Rodgers. Well dyline. February thirteen,

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, the New York Jets made it official.

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Speaker 2: They publicly confirmed on Thursday that Rogers would not be

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Speaker 2: brought back for the twenty twenty five NFL season. The

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Speaker 2: news was accompanied by all kinds of gibberish and statements

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Speaker 2: in pablom and second babble from various organizational leaders that

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Speaker 2: all made sure they took the time to very much

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Speaker 2: thank Aaron Rodgers for the last two seasons with their organization.

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Speaker 2: Quote I personally want to thank Aaron for his time

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Speaker 2: at the New York Jets end quote Jets owner Woody

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Speaker 2: Johnson said. Quote He's arrival in twenty twenty three was

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Speaker 2: met with unbridled excitement, and I will forever be grateful

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Speaker 2: that he chose to join us to continue his Hall

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Speaker 2: of Fame career. From day one, he embodied all that

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01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 2: it meant to be a New York Jet. He embraced

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Speaker 2: our fans, he immersed himself in our city. That is

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Speaker 2: what I will remember most when I look back at

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Speaker 2: his time here. He will always be welcome and I

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Speaker 2: wish him only the best in whatever he chooses to

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Speaker 2: do next. Translation, don't let the door hit you in

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Speaker 2: the ass on the way out. And oh, by the way,

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01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 2: next time you want to go to Egypt and we're

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: having each ota, don't This thing started slow and faded,

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01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 2: not kind of like Aaron Rodgers. And trust me, I

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01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 2: hope he's back somewhere in the NFL next year, and

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Speaker 2: I've got some thoughts on that coming up. I think

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Speaker 2: he's going to be okay, Wow, don't get you know,

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01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: too excited. Ian Rappaport of the NFL Network reported that

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Speaker 2: the Jets will probably not release Rogers until after June first.

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: That'll better manage their salary cap. Hick, But thanks for everything,

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Speaker 2: thanks for missing wide open receivers looking you know, that

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01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: same look on your face like you just smelled the

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Speaker 2: bad fart, dumb postgame conferences. Oh, by the way, the

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Speaker 2: thing I remember when he walked in day one. Oh

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01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: that's Super Bowl trophies looking kind of lonely. Yeah, it

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Speaker 2: still is. I loved it. I didn't want to see

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Speaker 2: in Rodgers. For the record, I was wrong. Now, no

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Speaker 2: one could have seen the Achilles situation coming. You know,

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Speaker 2: four plays into the twenty twenty three season. That just sucked.

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Speaker 2: That was just incredible bad luck. And there's a universe

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Speaker 2: somewhere that exists that had that never happened, things might

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Speaker 2: have been different. We'll never know. We'll never know. I

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Speaker 2: was wrong. I thought Rogers would come back this season,

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Speaker 2: and I thought they grew up the playoffs. I said that, why, well,

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01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,600
Speaker 2: well they won seven games the year before. Was Zach

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01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 2: Wilson and al Woodhall? What the hell do you expect

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Speaker 2: they had the defense, all the pieces of place. We

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Speaker 2: were told. They told us all we needed was a quarterback.

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01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 2: But you got a Hall of Famer there. But now

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Speaker 2: Rogers flies into town on his old dime, which leads

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Speaker 2: me to believe he still very much wants to play football,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the Jets. I could be wrong. I

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01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: didn't know what flew in his own dime, but I'm guessing,

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 2: or maybe the Jets flument. What does it matter. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure they got some deal on Spirit Airlines to complete

1129
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: the trifecta. They informed him face to face they plan

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Speaker 2: and move in a different direction. Okay, there is some

1131
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: pablum out there that suggests that the Jets had presented

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Speaker 2: Rogers with some sort of an ultimatum if he did

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Speaker 2: want to return for twenty twenty five. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what that ultimatid is. Now we don't know what rogers

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: next move is because I don't know who's interested in him,

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01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know who he's interested in, you know.

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Speaker 2: And then is he gonna want to bring DeVante Adams

1138
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Speaker 2: and Don Maynard and George Sower and everybody with They

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01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 2: gave the guy everything he wanted. Now Rogers has yet

1140
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,919
Speaker 2: to confirm that he plans to play in twenty twenty five,

1141
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: which means he definitely wants to play. Let me tell

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Speaker 2: you something. If he doesn't play next year, I don't

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Speaker 2: have a funny metaphor, So just move on. He gonna

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Speaker 2: play next year. He wants to play next year. And

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 2: by the way, a handful of teams are in market

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01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 2: for quarterbacks and bridge quarterbacks. At least one of those

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01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,480
Speaker 2: organizations I think has already reached out to him. I

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01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know if they can. Maybe he's

1149
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: under contract, but I don't really want them. He did

1150
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 2: throw it for thirty nine hundred yards and twenty eight touchdowns.

1151
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: His numbers did pick up towards the end of the season,

1152
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 2: and that could provide some encouragement for some interested teams.

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01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 2: But hell, that in fifty cents will get you a

1154
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 2: cup of coffee, Burger chef. Okay, this thing was an

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01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 2: abject failure, and you know it was all right, and

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01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: I guess you know. Look, according to Diana Roussini, it's

1157
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 2: not so much. The Jets were one hundred percent opposed

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01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: to bringing Rogers back for another season. Remember, you got

1159
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 2: a new coach on Aaron Glenn, who's an no O

1160
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: BS guy. But apparently there were some conditions that Rogers

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Speaker 2: would have to meet. One stipulation that Rogers would have

1162
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: to stop making regular appearances on the Pat McAfee show.

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Speaker 2: Seems reasonable to me, right. The Jets also reportedly told

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Speaker 2: me he could not skip off season workouts, and I think

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Speaker 2: that was probably a red herring, knowing that Rogers would

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Speaker 2: not give up his Pat McAfee show and then he

1167
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Speaker 2: would skip off season workouts because he thinks he's old

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01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: that time. I think. So, you know, apparently they you know,

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Speaker 2: the conversations they had with if you're going to be

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Speaker 2: a part of this team, you're gonna attend all the

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Speaker 2: training camp, You're not gonna do Pat McAfee anymore, and

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Speaker 2: if you're to stay here. So to me, this is

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01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn setting a new setting a tone. This is

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01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn re established in the culture. Yeah. And I

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01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: don't know, by the way, maybe maybe Rogers thought about

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01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 2: it and didn't want to go back there anyway, But

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Speaker 2: I don't know. The reason I think he may not

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01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 2: really care if he wants to go back there is

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Speaker 2: he has no guaranteed money remaining on his contract with

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Speaker 2: the Jets. But if they cut the Jets, if they

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01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:26,000
Speaker 2: cut Rogers again, I look at what he Johnson's comments

1182
01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 2: and my teeth diitch, because the Jets are about to

1183
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: take a forty nine million dollar dead cap hit. The

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01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 2: only reason they'll cut him after June first is they

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01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: can spread that money out over two years. Now, Rogers

1186
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 2: would still be able to sign with the new team

1187
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: and free agency begins in March if they were to

1188
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 2: go that route, which I kind of expect to happen. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I just think that this isn't done. This isn't done.

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01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: So the question that begs the question, where can Aaron

1191
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 2: Rodgers move on to?

1192
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 5: Now?

1193
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: Colin Coward gave a pretty lengthy soliloquy about Aaron Rodgers

1194
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 2: any with the Rams. I'm not saying he's predicting that,

1195
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 2: not that Colin's predicting that, but he laid out a

1196
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: really interesting case for Aaron to go to the Rams.

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01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: Would I like to see that? Absolutely? Will that happen? No?

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Speaker 2: Not no, hell no, ain't no way, not up in here. No,

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Speaker 2: it ain't gonna happen. Sean McVay isn't going to play

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 2: that crap, that's circus. No, that's not how Sean McKay

1201
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 2: McVeigh rolls. And later in the show, I'll tell you

1202
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Speaker 2: who I think Sean McVay has his eye on and

1203
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 2: why I think Matt Stafford could end up next year

1204
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: there were him and Kelly Stafford. I think are weren't

1205
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: out there welcome in LA Now, none of this has

1206
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 2: happened yet. We could look up in September and Stafford

1207
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: could be quarterback of the Rams on opening day. All

1208
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 2: that could happen. But Sean McVay, no grass grows under

1209
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: his feet. Now. I'll give a little commentary about that

1210
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 2: coming up later in the show, and when you listen

1211
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 2: to it, I think you'll agree with me. But the

1212
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 2: point is is that, And to be fair, I didn't

1213
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 2: say Colin was predicting it, but I don't agree with

1214
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: the premise at all. If you know Sean McVay like

1215
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 2: he knows Sean McVay, Sean McVay is not. He's no.

1216
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 2: The Rams are pretty good team, man. They gave the

1217
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 2: Eagles a nice little tussle, a nice little tussle before

1218
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: going down, and they fill in a couple spots here

1219
01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: and there, and I've always said, look, Stafford got a

1220
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. I know somebody will tweet at me, ha,

1221
01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 2: big deal, paging Jekwowski, tard paging Aaron Donald. He got it, though,

1222
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 2: I'll give it to you. Stafford's not a guy you're

1223
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: gonna win because if he's a guy who might win

1224
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 2: with trust me. I had my fill of him in Detroit.

1225
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 2: I got Stafford fatigue, as if you didn't know. But

1226
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 2: where the hell could Aaron Rodgers go? If I had

1227
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 2: a magic wand put him on the Raiders, come on,

1228
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: come on, let's go move it. Why the Raiders need anyone, someone,

1229
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: somebody under center. And they got a ton of cap

1230
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 2: space to put a ton of potential upgrades surrounding him.

1231
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 2: They brought in Pete Carroll to win immediately. Now that

1232
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: may be a bit of a stretch, and people in

1233
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: hell on ice water now, and look, cam Newton got

1234
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: to Carolina and turned around at one and fifteen team

1235
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:17,759
Speaker 2: in one year. It can happen. Okay, it can happen

1236
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 2: if you bring in Rogers, who's sheer volume of experience,

1237
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: and team him up with Tom Brady and Chip Kelly

1238
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: and Pete Carroll in a short term deal, all right,

1239
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: a bridge deal while they figure out what they're gonna

1240
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 2: do next to quarterback. I don't know, Man, tell me

1241
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: that might not be at least fun to watch. Of course,

1242
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: there's always big bucks pue even if a trade checked that,

1243
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: even if we're required a trade up. Well, the Raiders

1244
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: are pretty well positioned to address quarterback in the draft

1245
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 2: because they got the number row over six pick, and well,

1246
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 2: they've got money to spend. You got to get a

1247
01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 2: guy who can get the ball to brock Bauers. I mean,

1248
01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: this is a guy who just lit the league up.

1249
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 2: Excuse me and his rookie year. So let's get going.

1250
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:11,639
Speaker 2: Let's pick it up, let's get to stepping. I would

1251
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 2: like to see. I would like to see Aaron Rodgers

1252
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 2: go to the Las Vegas Raiders now, assuming he returns

1253
01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 2: for his twenty first season. And I know it's debatable

1254
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 2: because there are some who question how much he has

1255
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 2: left in the tank at forty one, after a couple

1256
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: of underwhelming seasons in New York and his final year

1257
01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 2: in Green Bay was not great. In twenty twenty two,

1258
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 2: one team that was mentioned in you know whispers were

1259
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 2: they Indianapolis Colts now that's not to imply the Colts

1260
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 2: are ready to give up on Anthony Richardson. I'm ready

1261
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: to give up on Andy Richardson, but that doesn't mean

1262
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,160
Speaker 2: the Colts are. They could rent Rogers for one year.

1263
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 2: Richardson is still twenty two. You put him behind a

1264
01:11:56,840 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: proven veteran. The Colts have a solid offensive line. Perhaps

1265
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 2: Rodgers could get them back in the playoff conversation in

1266
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 2: a very iffy division. And oh, by the way, Pat

1267
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 2: mcafused to play for the Colts see see it's already

1268
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: coming together cons well. Richardson might not be reliable at

1269
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 2: this stage of his career, but adding Rodgers is merely

1270
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,120
Speaker 2: going to delay for Richard's development. Would it really improve

1271
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 2: the Colts as a whole team hasn't made the playoffs

1272
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: in five years? And even if Rogers was decent, who

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Speaker 2: knows if he stays healthy. Coming up, I will continue

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01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 2: on my Aaron Rodgers rant. And oh, by the way,

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01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 2: one of Dion's sons was not invited to the combine.

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01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: That didn't sit well with Dion. We'll chop that up

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Speaker 2: coming back as well. I'm Bernie Frattle were comedy Lion

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01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirat dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it lockedly listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show on

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01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right, back on the Bernie Frawdles Show,

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, comedy liar for the tyrack dot Com Studios.

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01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: Here in Las Vegas, we continue on with the Aaron

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01:13:04,360 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: Rodgers saga Sinara from New York. We think he'll play

1284
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 2: somewhere next year. I'm sure he wants to, and I'll

1285
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: think he'll find a suitor. I do not believe it'll

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01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 2: be the Rams. I hope it's the Raiders. The Colts

1287
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 2: have been mentioned, and so have four of their teams,

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01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 2: not in any particular order. The Minnesota Vikings were actually mentioned.

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01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: They seem prepared to at least allow Sam Donald to

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01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: test the market. He did have a bit of a

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01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 2: bummer in his final two games. And if it ain't

1292
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,360
Speaker 2: Sam McDonald, they can sure use a battle tested arm

1293
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: because again they think the world of JJ McCarthy, but

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01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 2: he's coming back from multiple knee surgeries. It would be

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01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be coincidental? It wouldn't be ironic, could be coincidental?

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01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: Farv went to the Jets, then went to the Vikings.

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01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 2: Rogers goes from the Drinking Bay Packers to the Jets

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01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: and now maybe the Vikings. Could it be Ladie Ponder passing?

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01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 2: Minnesota's got a ready made supporting cast, and you gotta

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01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: believe Rogers might like getting in the ring with his

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: old pals, the Green Bay Packers. However, do I think

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01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen, though? I think the Vikings are crazy

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01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: if they don't at least franchise tag Sam Donald. And

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01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 2: I'll get to him a little bit later. What the

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 2: options are with Donald? Okay, erase what you saw in

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01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: the last two games, all right, it's all part of

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01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: his development. JJ McCarthy is completely untested, although I think

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01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 2: he's gonna be pretty good completely untested. I think Kevin

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01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 2: O'Connell's way too smart not to know that he could

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 2: even build upon what he got with their Sam Donald,

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01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 2: at least for next season. I get it they really

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01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 2: like the Vikings, really like JJ McCarthy. But even if

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01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: he's not one hundred percent for week one, then you

1314
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: can maybe if you can't, for whatever reason you don't

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01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 2: come to terms with Donald or whatever, Rogers all of

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01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 2: a sudden makes the Vikings. You go back to two

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01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 2: thousand and nine and Brett Favre. It's exactly what it is,

1318
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 2: and they did pretty good. It'd be pretty good. It

1319
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: would be very interesting the Aaron Rodgers. So maybe coming

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: to a town not called Minnesota or Minnesota, I don't know,

1321
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 2: the New York Giants, and there's an organization that badly

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01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 2: needs somebody at quarterback, somebody, anybody. I love Tommy DeVito, man,

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01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 2: I'm just maybe because he's Italian and I'm Italian. They're

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01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 2: better off with Danny DeVito. I'd keep Tommy DeVito on

1325
01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: the roster, but hein't gonna get you the playoffs. All right,

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01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,360
Speaker 2: Rogers doesn't have to move and stay right there to

1327
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: the New York market, stay played right at the same stadium.

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01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 2: He can stay put. The Giants need something. The Giants, though,

1329
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: are not ready to contend. They've been in perpetual rebuild

1330
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 2: modes since Lincoln was president. The defense scrappy in some games,

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01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 2: other games not so much. They need to rebuild their

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01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: long term infrastructure actually had on offense, and that comes

1333
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:04,840
Speaker 2: through the draft. Look at what I told you how

1334
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: Holly Roseman did it. He didn't do it by you know,

1335
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: taking Hall of Fame quarterbacks with bat Achilles off the

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01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:13,519
Speaker 2: shelf that are almost sixty eight years old. He gonna

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01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: I don't see him going to the Giants. Okay, the

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 2: Giants pick number three overall, they're gonna draft quarterback. I

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 2: don't know, man, in this quarterback class, I wouldn't be

1340
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 2: too excited. Now. On one team that was mentioned that

1341
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 2: caught my eye again, I put this sort of in

1342
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: the Raiders category, meaning that I'd like to see this,

1343
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,919
Speaker 2: and I'm talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and Mike Tomlin.

1344
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:46,680
Speaker 2: Huh huh. Well, he had a once elite veteran in

1345
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four by the name of Russell Wilson, who

1346
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 2: I refuse to take a dump on his face like

1347
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:53,800
Speaker 2: everybody else can't wait to do. I like Russell Wilson.

1348
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: He's a pretty quarterback conversation for a different day. And

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01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: Rogers actually beat Tomlin on the biggest stage or four years ago,

1350
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:04,799
Speaker 2: and they kind of winked at each other across the field.

1351
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: There was always that notion those two might connect someday.

1352
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin, I think there's mutual respect,

1353
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 2: but they always deny it, and so it's not really

1354
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: a fit from the standpoint if it doesn't really fit

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01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: fit Pittsburgh's culture to bring in a guy like, you know,

1356
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: like like an Aaron Rodgers. But you know, Pittsburgh seems

1357
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: perpetually in the wild card round even though they haven't

1358
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 2: been good. They need help in the trenches, they need

1359
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 2: wide receivers. A short term, you know stint with Aaron

1360
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 2: Rodgers possibly makes sense. Okay, but they're gonna say, well,

1361
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 2: didn't work with Russell Wilson. I get their different players,

1362
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: but the Steelers are not just only a quarterback away. Plus,

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01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers are an old school franchise that is a

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01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: very stable culture. Three coaches since nineteen seventy. Rogers really

1365
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 2: looked his age last year with the Jets rather than

1366
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: a resort to another guy who's even older than Ben Rothberger.

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01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:04,640
Speaker 2: Why would Pittsburgh do that? Finally, the Tennessee Titans now

1368
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: coach Brian Canahan, try that again. Callahan apparently he's had

1369
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 2: enough of Will Levis. Okay, Will Levis Is, I've had

1370
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 2: enough of Will Levis and I have no skin in

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01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:19,440
Speaker 2: the game. So Rogers could again be a proven quarterback

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Speaker 2: for an offense that a's in veterans like Tony Pollard

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01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,799
Speaker 2: and Calvin Ridley. The division again, that's a wide open division.

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Speaker 2: And can you you know a guy like Rogers if

1375
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: he came in and somehow got the fountain of youth

1376
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:36,440
Speaker 2: for one year, could the Tennessee Titans get into the postseason.

1377
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 2: It's not all the rum of possibility. By the way,

1378
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 2: guess who owns the number one pick in the draft Tennessee.

1379
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 2: Now I think they're crazy if they draft Camy Ward

1380
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: in number one. They're not going to draft shirdor Sanders.

1381
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 2: But how about go get a guy like Travis Hunter

1382
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 2: or trade down to get a bunch of picks and

1383
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 2: you bring in one time, you rent Rogers for one year,

1384
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 2: they got a brand new general manager. And uh, I

1385
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,560
Speaker 2: don't think anybody would complain if Tennessee came out of

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01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 2: the gate and won their first year, and if they

1387
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 2: did it with a bit of a mcgazy like Aaron Rodgers.

1388
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 2: But look, at the end of the day, I want

1389
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 2: to see Rogers return for his twenty first season. It

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01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,919
Speaker 2: ain't gonna be with the Jets. The Giants would be crazy,

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01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 2: Indianapolis probably not so much. The Raiders would be my

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01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 2: number one choice by far. It just fits that it

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01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: checks every box and you know it. Pete Carey, you

1394
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: know it. Viking's probably not gonna happen. The Steelers somewhat intriguing,

1395
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 2: but when the rubber hits the road, I don't think

1396
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:38,200
Speaker 2: it fits the cut of their jib very much. But nonetheless,

1397
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers will continue to be I promise you a story.

1398
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: What are some of the rest of the stories in

1399
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 2: the NFL offseason? Questions we need answered? We're gonna tackle him,

1400
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 2: keep it locked. Were listening to the Bernie Fraddle Show

1401
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

1402
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fridle Show keeps

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Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Froddle. We're County

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Speaker 2: Line from the tyreck dot Com studios here in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 2: way tired buying should be. Well, I'm not mixed up.

1410
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 2: There's a cornacopia of sports. We covered a lot of

1411
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: it with Mark Medina and the NBA. We covered some

1412
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: great stuff with Doug Anderson, Major League Baseball, a little

1413
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,240
Speaker 2: fun with Juan Soto. We'll be getting into that more.

1414
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 2: Luca Anthony Davis coming up in an hour. Jeff Donsill

1415
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: will join us from Boston. Believe it or not. We

1416
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: got some Belichick stuff. And how about that big deal

1417
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 2: they just pulled off with with Bragman. We talked about

1418
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 2: Sam Donald. Check that we're gonna talk about Sam Donald.

1419
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: We talked about Aaron Rodgers. We'll get to Matt Stafford.

1420
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,000
Speaker 2: But as I said, you know, the NFL's king the

1421
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:56,439
Speaker 2: off seasons here. It's twenty four seven, three sixty five.

1422
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm not dissing any of the other sports, but the

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01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: NFL continues to be the most interesting as it comes

1424
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,920
Speaker 2: to sports conversations. Right, What are the questions that are

1425
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 2: on people's minds as we sit here on Sunday, February sixteenth,

1426
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 2: NBA All Star weekend. Forget about that? So did I?

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01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 2: Which team or slash possible contender? Will and Miles Garrett?

1428
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 2: He wants out of Cleveland, all right now? Joe Thomas,

1429
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,520
Speaker 2: the last Hall of Famer that I think the Browns had,

1430
01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: you know, he he wants out of Cleveland. Miles Garrett

1431
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 2: wants out. He made multiple media appearances during Super Bowl

1432
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,599
Speaker 2: Week and he emphasized his trade demand. He not only

1433
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 2: wants to leave Cleveland, he wants to go to a contender.

1434
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 2: But Cleveland had something to say about that. He said,

1435
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: we are not moving him, but stay tuned. Okay, he's

1436
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 2: at like a one of those Salvos you fired to

1437
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: perhaps set the stage for a deal negotiation. I don't know.

1438
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 2: The one thing is you can say Miles Garrett is

1439
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: probably in his prime. This past season. He led the

1440
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 2: league in quarterback pressures, he led the league in pass

1441
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 2: rush win rate. And can you just think about this now, Mike,

1442
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,680
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett have been a difference maker for say, the

1443
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. I don't know. I don't know. Mighty have

1444
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: been a difference maker for the Washington Commanders. Probably not,

1445
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: but be a nice addition for my money. I'm guessing

1446
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:47,960
Speaker 2: that's where he might have his best opportunity. Or how

1447
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 2: about the Los Angeles Rams, who don't play around? Or

1448
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: how about the other team in Los Angeles with Jim Harbaugh.

1449
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:58,559
Speaker 2: There's four teams right there that if you were to

1450
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 2: put Miles Garrett on any one of those teams, and

1451
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 2: all of a sudden causes you to look at those

1452
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:14,840
Speaker 2: on field, you know, personnel groupings a little differently. The

1453
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, after watching what Philadelphia did

1454
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 2: to Kansas City and the kryptonite for Patrick Mahomes is

1455
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 2: a strong defensive line. It's been done twice now, Tampa

1456
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 2: Bay five years ago and Philadelphia a week ago. Maybe

1457
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 2: the Bills should be picking up the phone as we speak.

1458
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: Remember the Bills just they were trade dance partners with

1459
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 2: the Browns a year ago to get Amari Cooper. So

1460
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 2: maybe they pick up the phone and do it again

1461
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 2: with Miles Garrett. The second question, will the Rams really

1462
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: move on from Cooper Cup and will Matthew Stafford really

1463
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 2: go to You know, the reason you heard me pause is,

1464
01:23:56,400 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: if we're being honest, if you watch the games, are

1465
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 2: really the only team that tested the Eagles in the playoffs.

1466
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 2: They really handled the Packers, They certainly handled the Washington Commanders,

1467
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 2: and they certainly handled the Chiefs. But the Rams tested them.

1468
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 2: You could argue, and I believe Pooka Naku has said

1469
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: it with Doug Gottlie, we're one play away. They were

1470
01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 2: thirteen yards short of potentially beating the eventual Super Bowl

1471
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: champion Philadelphia Eagles. The irony is instead of running it

1472
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 2: back with their Sam roster. Look, we've talked about this

1473
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: with Sean McVeigh before. The dude does not let grass

1474
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: grow under his feet. The answer is yes, the Rams

1475
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 2: are actively looking to trade Cooper Cup. He turns thirty

1476
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: two in June. Has he lost a yard office fastball? Maybe,

1477
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 2: but he's a former Super Bowl MVP. Unfortunately, it appears

1478
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: that his injuries might have caught up with him. And

1479
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:59,360
Speaker 2: it's everybody loves Cooper Cup. How do you not love

1480
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: Cooper Cup? All Right? I don't know if he's worth

1481
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 2: his twenty nine point seven million dollar cap hit. Okay,

1482
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: he could be moved before March nineteenth, and they don't

1483
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: have to pay him an eight million dollar roster bonus,

1484
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: I believe. As for Stafford, the front office has refused

1485
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 2: to commit to him publicly, as they started in twenty

1486
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:25,879
Speaker 2: twenty five. But at thirty seven, people still rave about Stafford.

1487
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 2: I know he'll make the occasional brilliant throw. I've never

1488
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:36,800
Speaker 2: questioned Stafford's toughness, his competitive nature, his resiliency, his will

1489
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: to win. I just stafford fatigue from Detroit. Now, if

1490
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 2: he's that good, why would the Rams. I'm telling you

1491
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: this could happen. I'm not predicting, and you're to what

1492
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 2: Colin had say. So what are the odds? Here's another question,

1493
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: what are the odds both Stafford and Cooper Cup end

1494
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: up in New York? And I'm not talking about the Jets.

1495
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: There was a buzz last week Adam Schefter reported that

1496
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 2: the New York Giants hired Matt Stafford's brother in law

1497
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: as their assistant quarterbacks coach. Now, the question is, if

1498
01:26:09,240 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: you get Sean McVeigh in a room and you ask

1499
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,599
Speaker 2: him the question, would you see a universe in which

1500
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford is not your quarterback next year? I'm going

1501
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 2: to address that coming up, but it's all speculation. The

1502
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers went completely off a cliff this past

1503
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: year in the last half of the season, and so

1504
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: this is a team that's been a fixed year in

1505
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: the playoffs, multiple super Bowls. They just can't quite get

1506
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,759
Speaker 2: over the hump. They still have the sixth best odds

1507
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,719
Speaker 2: per bet MGM to get to the super Bowl in

1508
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. But this is going to be incredibly

1509
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 2: crucial offseason. I did not have the Niners going six

1510
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 2: and eleven this past year, and you can blame some

1511
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 2: of it on injuries. I guess the only year that

1512
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers won a Super Bowl, they had fourteen guys

1513
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,799
Speaker 2: on injured reserve that year. But I digress. There's injuries.

1514
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 2: It's called the natural Football League. Robert Salah returns. Can

1515
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: he create his magic in twenty nineteen? Can Christian mccafy

1516
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: caffrey stay healthy? And I mean stay healthy? What do

1517
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 2: they do with Rock Purty? What do they pay him?

1518
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: What does he want? What will he accept? Do they

1519
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 2: dare reset the quarterback market with his impending contract. If

1520
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:37,160
Speaker 2: you're looking for clues as to where the Niners are

1521
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: headed in terms of personnel, Deebo Samuel said, I want out.

1522
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 2: They said, okay, you've got permission, go find yourself a

1523
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:48,879
Speaker 2: trade partner. Now we've already addressed the Aaron Rodgers situation. Okay,

1524
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 2: we already know the Jets are moving on from their

1525
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 2: forty one year old quarterback, and they have as many

1526
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: as twenty potential replacements allegedly. I think they'll end up

1527
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 2: with Torod Taylor. To Rob Taylor is a good quarterback,

1528
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 2: I get it. He's not the guy that can you

1529
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 2: can hand the keys of the car and he's gonna

1530
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 2: win you a Super Bowl. But he's a good quarterback.

1531
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 2: And I think the Jets just need to get back

1532
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 2: to running the ball, playing defense, ball, control field position,

1533
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: and win games the way that they're really built to

1534
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 2: win games, and get rid of this dash and flash

1535
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:22,040
Speaker 2: and crazy Hollywood script that Aaron Rodgers never seemed to

1536
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 2: live up to. Okay, and from what I hear, Tarrod

1537
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 2: Taylor is very popular among the Jets wide receivers, especially

1538
01:28:30,000 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 2: garn Wilson, who I think is a star. By the way,

1539
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 2: feel free to move on from DeVante Adams. Okay, what

1540
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: did he grab? What did he do for you in

1541
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 2: New York? You already know the answer, all right, Rogers,

1542
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 2: We've already talked about it. He's going to He's gonna

1543
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 2: end up somewhere. No one really knows where. But so what,

1544
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 2: I want to go back to the sa Donald dilemma

1545
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 2: that the Vikings face. Okay, because they had a Cinderella

1546
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 2: season this past year, but it got flipped on its

1547
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 2: head as soon as it got to January. They had

1548
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 2: a very embarrassing loss to the Lions in Week eighteen,

1549
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 2: final game of the year, and that would have secured

1550
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 2: them the top seed and a home playoff game, actually

1551
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: in all home playoff games. Then they proved that loss

1552
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: was no fluke. A week later, they went to Los

1553
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 2: Angeles on a Monday night game in the wild card

1554
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 2: and the Rams rode them like a stick horse. They

1555
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 2: scored just nine points the Vikings did in their last

1556
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 2: two weeks. Unfortunately, that put the spotlight on the performance

1557
01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 2: of Sam Donald, who signed a one year, ten million

1558
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 2: dollars deal with the Vikings last March, and it put

1559
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,559
Speaker 2: his future in somewhat in question. Over those two games,

1560
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 2: Donald was forty three of eighty one through just one touchdown,

1561
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: with sacked eleven times. It looked like up until those

1562
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 2: two final games, Darnald sheesh, he might have been their

1563
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: long term solution. I get that they drafted JJ McCarthy

1564
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,480
Speaker 2: with the number ten pick earlier, but he toreus meniscus,

1565
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 2: he got hurt, got multiple Darnald had a career year

1566
01:30:16,360 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 2: top five in the NFL in passing yards and touchdowns.

1567
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, Kevin O'Connell, who's a very smart guy, said,

1568
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 2: before we make any major decisions, we have to really

1569
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 2: consider Sam's entire body of work when we're going to

1570
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,559
Speaker 2: decide on his future. That is smart. So what are

1571
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: their options? It's very simple. Here's what the Vikings options are.

1572
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: And you do have JJ McCarthy waiting in the wings.

1573
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: I like him, he's got potential. I believe in him.

1574
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 2: He's completely unproven. Be careful. Here's the Vikings options. One,

1575
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:56,000
Speaker 2: do you do a long term deal. The dude's only

1576
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 2: twenty seven years old. Is the mid range quarterback following

1577
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:04,599
Speaker 2: this year, which means, hey, you could lock them up

1578
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,639
Speaker 2: for four years, four years, one hundred and sixty million.

1579
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 2: The Vikings could then trade JJ McCarthy, who could potentially

1580
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: command a first round return in this open market, in

1581
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: this crappy draft quarterback class, it's not good. I would

1582
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 2: consider that. I'm not joking, not saying I'd do it.

1583
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 2: I'd also consider this option too, franchise tag him. Minnesota

1584
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 2: could test the waters by franchise tagging Sam Donald, which

1585
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: means a one year, guaranteed deal of about forty one

1586
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 2: million dollars. That would be more than twice as much

1587
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 2: as Darnluck's made in any single season in the National

1588
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 2: Football League. But look at what his production was last year.

1589
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 2: And I you know, as I told you a Major

1590
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: League Baseball GM told me many years ago, when you

1591
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,320
Speaker 2: look to move on to a guy, move on from

1592
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: a guy, you say to yourself, well, I'm not sure

1593
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,320
Speaker 2: I want them anymore, But do I want to still

1594
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: have to play against him? Sam Donald in the right offense,

1595
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,679
Speaker 2: proved what he could do over the course of the season,

1596
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 2: albeit the last two games, okay under Kevin O'Connell. I

1597
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 2: believe he's got a lot left in the tank. And

1598
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 2: again you can you can speculate as to you know,

1599
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,160
Speaker 2: the state of limbo right now, if they're in, if

1600
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:28,919
Speaker 2: they you know, don't sign him because you got JJ McCarthy,

1601
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:32,320
Speaker 2: which leaves the option number three. You could simply let

1602
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,400
Speaker 2: them walk. You can give them a long term deal,

1603
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 2: which I think the most you could you'd the most

1604
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 2: you'd consider offering Donald right now is the mid range

1605
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:44,000
Speaker 2: four year, one sixty or you're franchise tagging for one

1606
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 2: year at forty one. I think that's the safe route.

1607
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:50,640
Speaker 2: I do you're hedging your bets, or you let them go.

1608
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 2: You hand the keys to JJ McCarthy. Do you know

1609
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: for sure that McCarthy is ready to take the keys

1610
01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,640
Speaker 2: of the car tad and play one one half of

1611
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 2: a preseason game. He looked pretty good against guys who'll

1612
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:07,360
Speaker 2: be working at NAPA Auto Parts next month. The question

1613
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 2: is Ken McCarthy a takeover after coming off a serious

1614
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:14,960
Speaker 2: knee injury. The team has plenty of ancillary pieces to

1615
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 2: surround him. That's not the issue, by the way. Interestingly enough,

1616
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,680
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson, who I think no one can argue is

1617
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:27,480
Speaker 2: the team's biggest star. Last year signed the largest quarterback

1618
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,880
Speaker 2: of any wide receiver in NFL history four years, one

1619
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: hundred and forty million. He's kind of kept a neutral

1620
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 2: opinion on the team's future quarterback. I find this cryptic.

1621
01:33:38,040 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 2: It's not my job to say who's going to be

1622
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: the quarterback or who do I want to be the quarterback? Yeah,

1623
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't blame him for not speaking.

1624
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,360
Speaker 2: You gotta see these guys all year. I don't blame

1625
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:54,800
Speaker 2: him for not speaking. Unfortunately, though, it's not a very

1626
01:33:55,000 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 2: ringing endorsement of Sam Darnold. So let's go back to

1627
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 2: now Matt Stafford, and in a minute, I'll get to

1628
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 2: whether or not I think Sean McVay would even entertain

1629
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:14,760
Speaker 2: this Matt Stafford, it's not all the realm of possibility.

1630
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: He could be on the move. Okay, he technically has

1631
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,559
Speaker 2: two years remaining on his current contract, but it's essentially

1632
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,080
Speaker 2: set up. He's kind of going year to year with

1633
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,880
Speaker 2: the Rams and he's refusing to restructure it. That opens

1634
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 2: the door for a decision to be made by by

1635
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,880
Speaker 2: both sides here coming up in the next month or two.

1636
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 2: Stafford is due basically four million dollars in guaranteed money

1637
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, and there are no guarantees for

1638
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 2: his deal in twenty twenty six. That needs to be adjusted.

1639
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,759
Speaker 2: But it remains to be seen which team would actually

1640
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 2: be willing to sit down with Matt Stafford and sweeten

1641
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,719
Speaker 2: the pot. The Rams are kind of at an inflection

1642
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 2: point here. He's thirty seven years old. Sean McVay. I'm

1643
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 2: going to approve tea in a minute coming up, he

1644
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 2: doesn't let grass grow into his feet. If you think

1645
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 2: he's afraid to set the reset button, which would include

1646
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 2: not only moving off of Stafford and also Cooper cup,

1647
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 2: don't think he didn't have the colonies to do something

1648
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:19,959
Speaker 2: like that. So if Los Angeles, if the Rams ultimately

1649
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 2: decided to put Stafford on the trade block. Let's do

1650
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 2: what we did with Aaron Rodgers. Who are some potential destinations.

1651
01:35:29,160 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 2: Could the Pittsburgh Steelers be in the mix? Do they

1652
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,599
Speaker 2: want to get their next version of Ben Roethlisberger at

1653
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 2: thirty seven years old? Maybe if Pittsburgh said, we'll give

1654
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 2: you a first round pick Steelers draft twenty first this year,

1655
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,679
Speaker 2: a second round pick they draft fifty second, a conditional

1656
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 2: second round pick. Hmm, Okay, maybe you got Sean mcvayzier Stafford,

1657
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 2: he'd go to Pittsburgh and maybe the Rams give them

1658
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 2: their first round pick. Also, the Rams don't get two

1659
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,800
Speaker 2: first round picks in the first round this year. Bit

1660
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:09,640
Speaker 2: of a convoluted deal, right, several picks exchanging hands. But

1661
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is there have been player

1662
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 2: there have been deals that have been done like this

1663
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:17,559
Speaker 2: in the past. Okay, not too ultimately dissimilar to what

1664
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 2: Green Bay and the Jets did with Rogers in twenty

1665
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 2: twenty three. And I know what you're thinking, how did

1666
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:27,200
Speaker 2: that work out? Not so well? Okay. The truth of

1667
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 2: the matter is, if we're being honest, Matthew Stafford's numbers

1668
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,760
Speaker 2: weren't much better than Aaron Rodgers this year. He threw

1669
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:41,040
Speaker 2: for six less touchdowns. He threw for about the same yards,

1670
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 2: but they got a better culture in LA. The Rams

1671
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 2: would have to get you know, a handful of spots

1672
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:52,280
Speaker 2: to do this deal, but it's not on the Roman possibility. Okay,

1673
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 2: could Matt Stafford end up with the Minnesota Vikings and

1674
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 2: he's starting to see the same usual suspects. The Rams

1675
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 2: could potentially get the first round pick, the number twenty

1676
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 2: four pick overall, which means the Rams would have two

1677
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 2: first round picks and the Vikings could get Stafford. That's

1678
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 2: kind of a tit for tat deal. Straightforward, Stafford goes

1679
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 2: to the Vikings. This center's around whether or not the

1680
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 2: wild card here is, of course, Sam Darnold. What do

1681
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:18,839
Speaker 2: they want to do? We know he faltered down the stretch.

1682
01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 2: How much confidence do you have in JJ McCarthy. Finally

1683
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 2: you look at the New York Giants again. Oh my god,

1684
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: here we go again. Well, the Giants, the Rams could

1685
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,520
Speaker 2: only get a second round pick, number thirty four overall

1686
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,000
Speaker 2: and a second round pick in a future that get

1687
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,320
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford, And I would say this market isn't a

1688
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:38,720
Speaker 2: robust for Stafford, and I don't know if a first

1689
01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 2: round pick is going to be available for the Rams.

1690
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 2: But again I'm back to the family connection. They Giants

1691
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: hired somebody named Chadthall, who's Stafford's brother in law. And

1692
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 2: if you got two second round picks, that'd be a

1693
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:55,799
Speaker 2: nice return for the Rams. And the question in begins,

1694
01:37:56,360 --> 01:38:02,799
Speaker 2: who gives Sean McVay the best ants to win? Okay,

1695
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 2: by the way, there are other rumors. I'm telling you

1696
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 2: Sean mcvayh does not led grass grow under his feet.

1697
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 2: He's not one to sit still. I'll tell you the

1698
01:38:12,439 --> 01:38:17,520
Speaker 2: most delicious rumor we heard this week about if Stafford

1699
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:22,000
Speaker 2: goes and who would come back in his return. By

1700
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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. All right, we've talked

1724
01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:47,360
Speaker 2: about Rogers, We've talked about Donoald, we've talked about Stafford. Well,

1725
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:52,639
Speaker 2: let's talk about Sean McVay because there are rumors out

1726
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:59,519
Speaker 2: there from very credible people that Sean McVay may may

1727
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 2: be tigeting a certain quarterback, and perhaps these rumors also

1728
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:10,680
Speaker 2: suggest the Giants have more interested in Matthew Stafford than

1729
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 2: I have previously indicated, or not that I haven't indicated

1730
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 2: that could possibly get together, but the implication is it

1731
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 2: may be more serious that I implied. So look, we

1732
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 2: all know this about Sean McVay. The dude is a

1733
01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 2: mover and a shaker. He's brilliant. He's one of the

1734
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:32,200
Speaker 2: top five coaches in the NFL. He's never wanted to

1735
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:34,679
Speaker 2: let grass grow under his feet. He doesn't sit still.

1736
01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:39,560
Speaker 2: Sean McVay has been with the Rams since twenty seventeen.

1737
01:40:40,200 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 2: From the minute he set foot in that office, he

1738
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,080
Speaker 2: turned a more abund franchise into a Super Bowl contender.

1739
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 2: They were stagnant. Sean McVay did things differently in the

1740
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 2: way he approached the preseason, preseason games, his offense completely

1741
01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 2: turning the playbook upside down. He brought an energy that

1742
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:06,480
Speaker 2: you know, rejuvenated the locker room. And he was ruthless

1743
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 2: when it came to building his roster. He would trade picks,

1744
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:16,080
Speaker 2: you know, picks her capital but nothing yet. He wanted

1745
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 2: stars and got him. Sean McVay wasted no time. He

1746
01:41:19,160 --> 01:41:22,000
Speaker 2: pushed the salary limit to the brink, and that's become

1747
01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 2: his trademark. Sean McVay helped even though he didn't draft him.

1748
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:31,360
Speaker 2: He helped turned Jared Goff into a Super Bowl quarterback,

1749
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 2: then shortly thereafter kicked him to the curb. He did

1750
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 2: in a nice way because I think Sean McVay is

1751
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 2: a class act, but made no mistake he kicked him

1752
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 2: to the curb. Matt Stafford was who he had his

1753
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,559
Speaker 2: eye on, and Matt Stafford joined the Rams and with

1754
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,200
Speaker 2: the help of Jekwaski, Tart and Aaron Donald and company

1755
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 2: had about forty two doll of famers on that team.

1756
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:03,800
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford was under and the Rams delivered the ultimate championship.

1757
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 2: But in the NFL, you know what they say, not

1758
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,639
Speaker 2: for long? What have you done for me? Lately? Success

1759
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 2: is fleeting, and now Sean McVay finds himself not too

1760
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:19,439
Speaker 2: dissimilar to Jared Goff four years ago. There's another inflection point.

1761
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:24,880
Speaker 2: I think Matt Stafford's future as a as a top

1762
01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 2: flight quarterback of the National Football League is in limbo

1763
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 2: in my opinion, and the Giants appeared to me to

1764
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:35,920
Speaker 2: make it, making a serious push to bring him to

1765
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:39,280
Speaker 2: New York from I can't take credit for that reportage.

1766
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,840
Speaker 2: I'm repeating what I've heard. So the Rams faced sort

1767
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,640
Speaker 2: of a two fold decision and something that completely reshape

1768
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:51,240
Speaker 2: and redefine their future, particularly their immediate future. Do you

1769
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 2: keep Stafford? Yes or no? And if you don't, who

1770
01:42:56,720 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 2: do you get? By the way, there was a recent

1771
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 2: fan poll should the Rams trade Matthew Stafford for a

1772
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 2: younger quarterback like Sam Donald? That was part of the question.

1773
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 2: Forty five percent of the responded says yes, it's time

1774
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:17,679
Speaker 2: for a change, but it depends on the trade deal.

1775
01:43:18,200 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 2: Three percent said not sure, So half of them didn't

1776
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:26,160
Speaker 2: say no, but the other half did say no that no,

1777
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 2: Stafford is still valuable. But enter Sam Donald, who also

1778
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 2: finds his career in his NFL opportunities potentially at an

1779
01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:43,360
Speaker 2: inflection point, a fork in the road. Wasn't that long ago?

1780
01:43:43,439 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 2: Coming out of USC Sam Donald was supposed to be

1781
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 2: the Jets franchise savior. Unfortunately became the poster child for

1782
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 2: somebody who had potential but never could quite get over

1783
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:04,720
Speaker 2: the hump. So he has been road hard and put

1784
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:08,080
Speaker 2: away sweaty in New York and Carolina. They kicked him

1785
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 2: to the curb. He ended up taking a quick tour

1786
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 2: through San Francisco, remember as a backup now after a

1787
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:23,559
Speaker 2: tremendous season in Minnesota, who would have thunk it until

1788
01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:29,679
Speaker 2: the last two weeks of the season. Ironically or coincidentally, however,

1789
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 2: you want to put it against Sean mcvay's Los Angeles Rams,

1790
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 2: there's a situation where I am hearing this rumor. Again,

1791
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,559
Speaker 2: not taking any credit for this repartage, I'm just repeating

1792
01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:48,160
Speaker 2: what I heard. It's a conversation point. Sean McVay, who's

1793
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 2: already proven he has an incredible knack for reviving quarterbacks,

1794
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:59,759
Speaker 2: might find just such an opportunity moving off the thirty

1795
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 2: seve even year old Matt Stafford and moving on to

1796
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:08,080
Speaker 2: the twenty seven year old Sam Donald. Sam Donald would

1797
01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 2: also have the chance to prove he's more than just

1798
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 2: a journeyman. But make no mistake, the Rams have a

1799
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 2: quarterback question. I believe they have to figure this out

1800
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 2: and what I think will make the decision if the

1801
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,760
Speaker 2: Rams were to get Donal is he just a temporary

1802
01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 2: bridge quarterback? Is he a temporary band aid solution or

1803
01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 2: does McVeigh somehow see something the rest of the league missed.

1804
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 2: But I thought we already saw that last year in Minnesota. Okay. However,

1805
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 2: the flip side of the coin, the Rams lost their

1806
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 2: final game this last season, just three weeks ago to

1807
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:52,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles in the Divisional round. Matt Stafford said he

1808
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,920
Speaker 2: was not clear on his future, said he will need

1809
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 2: time to make a decision. Do I believe he's coming back.

1810
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 2: Of course he's gonna come back. He wants to come back.

1811
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:02,880
Speaker 2: I hate when they do that. And by the way,

1812
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 2: I got some moles telling me Travis Kelsey's coming back

1813
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:11,280
Speaker 2: next year too. He's coming back, okay. Stafford said he's

1814
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 2: not clear. In a recent interview, he said, quote, I

1815
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:18,560
Speaker 2: just want to keep playing good football. I love competing obviously,

1816
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 2: getting a chance to make runs in the playoffs, Competing

1817
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 2: for Lombardi Trophies is what it's all about. Once you

1818
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 2: get a taste of one, you want more of them.

1819
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 2: I love playing this game. True. While Stafford considers what

1820
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,960
Speaker 2: he wants, what does Sean McVay want or do the

1821
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 2: Rams want something to watch? Is it possible could the

1822
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 2: Rams be greasing his kids to welcome a potential Sam

1823
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:46,320
Speaker 2: Darnell into the fold. It's possible. It's not a zero

1824
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: because this I do think I know the Rams are

1825
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:58,000
Speaker 2: already busy preparing to find Stafford's ultimate replacement. Whether it's

1826
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 2: this year or in the future, you can see the

1827
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:04,599
Speaker 2: end of the tunnel with Matt Stafford and Sam Donald

1828
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:08,240
Speaker 2: has merely emerged as a possible candidate, and outside of

1829
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 2: the last two games for the Vikings, Donald proved he

1830
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 2: can lead a team. He's a free agent, he's twenty

1831
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:15,880
Speaker 2: years old, he's coming off his first career Pro Bowl.

1832
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: Sean McVay has realized, may have realized that here's a

1833
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 2: guy that can serve his team, get to his ceiling,

1834
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,200
Speaker 2: realize his potential and join a pretty damn good supporting

1835
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 2: cast with an above average defense that according to Puka

1836
01:47:32,680 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 2: and a Coup and he's right in theory, they were

1837
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 2: one play away from beating the Philadelphia Eagles. The Commandos

1838
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,719
Speaker 2: can't say that, the Packers can't say that, the Chiefs

1839
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,160
Speaker 2: can't say that. So you know, I know the Rams

1840
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:47,960
Speaker 2: started one on four, but look how they finished. I

1841
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,400
Speaker 2: think they were a solid franchise with a solid culture,

1842
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 2: coached by a top five coach. So the next sixty

1843
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,439
Speaker 2: four dollars question, can you trade Matt Staffer Efford for

1844
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:04,719
Speaker 2: a first round pick and then just signed Sam Donald

1845
01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 2: for the forty one million that basically Stafford's get. And actually,

1846
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: you might theoretically be in a better police place if

1847
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 2: you're the Rams, if you are taking into consideration, this,

1848
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 2: in theory could be your solution for the next five years.

1849
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 2: Stafford is not your solution for the next five years.

1850
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 2: And because you potentially could get some draft capital in

1851
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: addition to a quarterback who may be entering a prime

1852
01:48:29,320 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 2: on a similar deal. On paper, this sounds pretty good

1853
01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 2: for the Rams, or at the very least sounds very

1854
01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 2: intriguing for the Rams. The thing is, there's a fair

1855
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 2: chasm between here and there. Nothing's set in stone. The Vikings,

1856
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:50,919
Speaker 2: I believe, will make some effort to keep Stam Donald.

1857
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 2: My guess is they'll offer him a franchise, a franchise tague. Okay,

1858
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,080
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll give them the four year, one

1859
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,640
Speaker 2: to sixty deal. I don't think they just let them

1860
01:48:59,680 --> 01:49:05,320
Speaker 2: walk because their available options are basically, well, we want

1861
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 2: to avoid what they did with Kirk Cousins. The Vikings

1862
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 2: and Cousins couldn't agree on a new contract and they

1863
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 2: parted ways. They drafted JJ McCarthy in the first round. Also,

1864
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 2: remember Daniel Jones as they're back up there. But the

1865
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:23,040
Speaker 2: truth of the matter is, Sam Donald, if you had

1866
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:25,559
Speaker 2: if you had to win a football game today and

1867
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 2: you're in the Minnesota Vikings, you're not starting JJ McCarthy,

1868
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:33,320
Speaker 2: you'd start, You'd start Donald. But that still has to

1869
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: play out. An organization called over the Cap projects the

1870
01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:42,760
Speaker 2: Rams will have a thirty eight million dollars you know,

1871
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:46,799
Speaker 2: cap hit before making any further roster moves this season. Donald,

1872
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 2: who earned sixty three million in his career, has a

1873
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:51,760
Speaker 2: projected annual value of thirty eight point two man. Now,

1874
01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:55,160
Speaker 2: many people who are in the know expect Donald to

1875
01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 2: return to Minnesota. I told you Stafford threw for thirty

1876
01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 2: seven hundred yards. Donald threw for almost forty four hundred,

1877
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: thirty five touchdown passes. I think it would be a

1878
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 2: huge decision to see if the Vikings just let him go.

1879
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 2: But stranger things have happened. They do have JJ mccarthurre

1880
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:15,839
Speaker 2: and their rookie deal. But let's go back to Sean McVay,

1881
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 2: and if the Rams come up with a better offer, well,

1882
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,360
Speaker 2: the Vikings are going to be very tempted, very tempted.

1883
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:26,880
Speaker 2: As far as Sean McVay goes, I'm told that he's

1884
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,880
Speaker 2: a fan of Sam Donald. Before the wild Card game,

1885
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,320
Speaker 2: in which the Rams just rode the Vikings like a

1886
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:36,559
Speaker 2: stick horse, McVay was all praising Sam Donald for the

1887
01:50:36,640 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 2: job he'd done. He said, quote, I think Sam has

1888
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 2: done a great job. He's always had great ability to

1889
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 2: be able to get through progressions. He can activate different

1890
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 2: parts of the field, he can buy time with his legs.

1891
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 2: I think he's a much better athlete than me, but

1892
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,200
Speaker 2: people give him credit for I think that's true. He

1893
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,439
Speaker 2: moved the sticks with his legs a lot this year.

1894
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 2: Sean McVay is a smart dude. He saw that no

1895
01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 2: one else gives him credit for that. For the Rams though,

1896
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:05,559
Speaker 2: resolving and how they reconcile Matt Stafford's future, he's going

1897
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:08,280
Speaker 2: to be a key indicator of where things will go

1898
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:14,640
Speaker 2: the Rams. Matt Stafford just what two years ago, three

1899
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 2: years ago signed a four year deal for one hundred

1900
01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:22,120
Speaker 2: and sixty million dollars. Well, that's a pretty staggering amount

1901
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Speaker 2: for a thirty four year old dude at the time.

1902
01:51:24,600 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 2: Out of that total amount, one hundred and thirty million

1903
01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:30,519
Speaker 2: was guaranteed. Now, Stafford's average salary is forty million with

1904
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 2: a cap hit of forty nine to six, and Stafford

1905
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:36,000
Speaker 2: is keeping his options open. The Rams may consider moving

1906
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:39,640
Speaker 2: on from him because it just may be time to

1907
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:43,080
Speaker 2: get a much younger quarterback. A move to the Vikings

1908
01:51:43,240 --> 01:51:47,320
Speaker 2: would not be that surprising. Stafford has an annual value

1909
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 2: sitting at twenty nine million, which could suit the Vikings plan.

1910
01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 2: Having someone with a veteran presence of Stafford would not

1911
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 2: only help their offense, I think most likely it would

1912
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:04,479
Speaker 2: also help JJ McCarthy. Moreover, Stafford has deeper connections with

1913
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:09,440
Speaker 2: the Vikings. Remember Kevin O'Connell was the Rams offensive coordinator

1914
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: when Stafford won the Super Bowl. What back in twenty

1915
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:16,600
Speaker 2: twenty two was a Super Bowl fifty six? And I

1916
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:18,919
Speaker 2: think there could actually be a bigger market for Stafford

1917
01:52:18,960 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 2: even though he's not young. Finally, one last thing this

1918
01:52:24,040 --> 01:52:27,839
Speaker 2: story won't end. Stafford could land with the New York Giants. Okay.

1919
01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter, quoting to him, said quote, Giants are hiring

1920
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Speaker 2: former Jags and Bill's wide receiver coach Chathall, and I've

1921
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 2: told you this three times as an assistant quarterbacks coach.

1922
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 2: He's related to Stafford. One of The interesting facts is

1923
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,760
Speaker 2: Chadthall and Stafford are of similar age and they have

1924
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: quote a brotherly love. Stafford once said he's the brother

1925
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:53,599
Speaker 2: I never had. Okay, enough with the soap opera. I'm

1926
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:58,080
Speaker 2: just telling you things could be changing. Things could be

1927
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 2: changing in Los Angeles. We're watching. I'm telling you this

1928
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:06,200
Speaker 2: NFL Man twenty four to seven news cycle. You know

1929
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 2: what I mean? What did I say earlier about one

1930
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 2: of Dion Sanders' son's getting snubbed? What the hell was

1931
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 2: I talking about? I'll tell you. Coming up, I'm Bernie Friday.

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Speaker 2: We're coming to your line from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com Studios. Keep it locked right here and

1934
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 2: listening to the Bernie Friddle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Oh right back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Heah company Life from the Tarreck dot Com studios here

1937
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Again. Shortly after the show, our podcast

1938
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Speaker 2: will be going up. If you missed any of tonight's show,

1939
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Speaker 2: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to follow,

1941
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Speaker 2: rate and review the podcast again, Jeff, search Fox Sports

1942
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,200
Speaker 2: Radio wherever you get your podcasts. You see the show

1943
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air at about

1944
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:54,640
Speaker 2: eleven minutes and take you out to Boston. We'll be

1945
01:53:54,680 --> 01:54:01,480
Speaker 2: joined by f Jeff Dawson, insider East Coast Investors, sports consultant.

1946
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:03,519
Speaker 2: We were gonna have him on a few weeks ago.

1947
01:54:03,600 --> 01:54:06,639
Speaker 2: He had a bit of an emergency and had to cancel.

1948
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:10,479
Speaker 2: Very understandable. We're going to talk about Bill Belichick. We

1949
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:12,759
Speaker 2: have other news as well, but there's things to know about.

1950
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 2: I'm of the opinion now some of us, including me Mike,

1951
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 2: might know Bill Belichick an apology. I don't know if

1952
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,080
Speaker 2: he's gonna win games in North Carolina, but his early

1953
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 2: recruiting returns and what he's been able to do in

1954
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,799
Speaker 2: the recruiting trail, the reception he's getting trying to establish

1955
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:32,520
Speaker 2: UNC is a national program, getting support from the likes

1956
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:35,560
Speaker 2: of Michael Jordan, the goals he's trying to reach, the

1957
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:39,280
Speaker 2: types of players he's trying to recruit to North Carolina,

1958
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:43,920
Speaker 2: including one very famous player who was a thousand yard

1959
01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:48,000
Speaker 2: rusher and one of Bill Belichick's new England Patriot teams.

1960
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick has offered his son a scholarship, and we'll

1961
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,680
Speaker 2: get to that coming up in just a minute here.

1962
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 2: But you know, you cannot swing a dead cat without

1963
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,960
Speaker 2: getting three stories about Shador Sanders every single day and

1964
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,440
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders and what his game plan is for his sons.

1965
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 2: And we all know that the NFL Combine is coming up,

1966
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 2: and on Thursday, the NFL released the full list of

1967
01:55:21,680 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 2: players who have been invited to participate in the annual

1968
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:31,360
Speaker 2: scouting combine in Indianapolis. There were actually a total of

1969
01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty nine players invited in total to

1970
01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:40,440
Speaker 2: participate in the scouting combine. Of those, there were fifty

1971
01:55:40,480 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 2: six defensive backs invited to participate. Now, I know you're

1972
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 2: what with Shador Sanders, we'll see one of the fifteen

1973
01:55:50,320 --> 01:55:54,160
Speaker 2: quarterback prospects who were invited. Yes, of course he was.

1974
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 2: The dude's gonna probably be a first round pick. I

1975
01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 2: don't know how he's going to do in the NFL.

1976
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 2: I'm just not there yet, but he's certainly going to

1977
01:56:03,360 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 2: get a very good opportunity. We'll see where he ends up,

1978
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,440
Speaker 2: and I believe Shdor Sanders will be drafted in their

1979
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 2: first round if he doesn't go to the number six

1980
01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 2: overall to the Raiders, which I think the Raiders are

1981
01:56:14,120 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 2: out of their freaking mind if they draft the quarterback

1982
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 2: number six. Overall, they have a whole bunch of other

1983
01:56:19,160 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 2: needs above and beyond quarterback, and they want to try

1984
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 2: to win now. As I mentioned earlier paging Aaron Rodgers,

1985
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 2: but of the fifty six defensive backs invited to participate,

1986
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:38,000
Speaker 2: wait for it, Sanders, Shilo Sanders was not one of them. Now,

1987
01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 2: as you recall, Shiloh Sanders, Yes, he's the son of

1988
01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,320
Speaker 2: Dion Sanders. He's his second eldest son. He played for

1989
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:49,760
Speaker 2: the Colorado Buffaloes these past two seasons. He wears number

1990
01:56:49,800 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 2: twenty one. Shiloh is a safety, not a defensive back.

1991
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:59,560
Speaker 2: It's a safety. He began his college career five years

1992
01:56:59,600 --> 01:57:04,040
Speaker 2: ago South Carolina, Then he followed his father to Jackson

1993
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 2: State in twenty one. Then Shiloh transferred to Colorado in

1994
01:57:10,080 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. Shiloh is now twenty five years old,

1995
01:57:15,880 --> 01:57:20,480
Speaker 2: but he did have sixty seven tackles, one sack, two

1996
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 2: fumble recoveries, and two passes defended in the twenty twenty

1997
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 2: four season with the Colorado Buffaloes. Shiloh also participated in

1998
01:57:30,440 --> 01:57:37,720
Speaker 2: the East West Shrine Bowl, but he got very mixed reviews,

1999
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,520
Speaker 2: very mixed reviews. There was a video put out by

2000
01:57:42,520 --> 01:57:46,360
Speaker 2: a gentleman named Apex Jones twenty two and Apex Jones

2001
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 2: seems like a dude who has strong opinions and he

2002
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 2: made very very knowledgeable and he put out a video

2003
01:57:52,640 --> 01:57:56,720
Speaker 2: of Shiloh just getting barbecued in coverage time after time

2004
01:57:56,760 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 2: that went viral and Apex had this to say, quote,

2005
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,840
Speaker 2: they say, Shilo Sanders has been out there getting fried

2006
01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:07,040
Speaker 2: at the East West Shrine practices. This is the other

2007
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 2: side of sports on social media. One practice can get

2008
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:15,280
Speaker 2: turned into a damaging narrative. And that's true. But he

2009
01:58:15,320 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: also went on to say, I've said before, Shiloh in't

2010
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:25,120
Speaker 2: an NFL player. To me, I don't see it. He

2011
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 2: definitely ain't a corner and I don't know why they

2012
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:30,840
Speaker 2: got him out there doing corner drills and looking bad.

2013
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 2: So Shiloh was not invited. Now, I know that video

2014
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:39,560
Speaker 2: reflected poorly on Shilo Sanders, but again, to be fair,

2015
01:58:40,160 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 2: he's a safety, not cornerback, so lining him up one

2016
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:45,440
Speaker 2: on one against top receivers is not going to be

2017
01:58:45,520 --> 01:58:48,560
Speaker 2: his specialty. I understand he did show off some good

2018
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:51,280
Speaker 2: tackling ability. In the actual game. If you don't think

2019
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 2: Chilo's going to end up an NFL camp, you're wrong.

2020
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,320
Speaker 2: Maybe the same one as Shudor. He still could be drafted,

2021
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,400
Speaker 2: and at the minimum, I believe Shiloh will at least

2022
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,000
Speaker 2: get a look as undrafted free agent. Coming up, we

2023
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 2: take you to Boston. We owe Bill Belichick an apology.

2024
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 2: Keep it locked, Bernie Fraddles Show, Fox Sports Radio.

2025
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:12,880
Speaker 1: You don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio, Well, that's right,

2026
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Speaker 1: you heard the man.

2027
01:59:13,600 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 2: The Bernie Frattle Show keeps rolling right along. My name

2028
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,200
Speaker 2: is Bernie Frattle. We are Company Lion from the tarrac

2029
01:59:19,280 --> 01:59:22,800
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2034
01:59:36,360 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 2: take you out to Boston. We have a gentleman who's

2035
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 2: been a regular on my show, Our Boston Insider, and

2036
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:44,360
Speaker 2: he was scheduled to come out a few weeks ago

2037
01:59:44,400 --> 01:59:48,400
Speaker 2: ahead a very serious family emergency. We'll move on from that.

2038
01:59:48,520 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 2: Hope everything is okay, but let's say helload again to

2039
01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 2: our friend from ECI, Jeff Dawson and Boston. Jeff.

2040
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 5: How all right, buddy, Good morning Bernie. We've got about

2041
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:01,560
Speaker 5: a half a foot of snow here, but all which

2042
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:04,320
Speaker 5: you well, they call.

2043
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:12,160
Speaker 2: That Februarynie, Yeah, well it's coming. I lived through seventeen

2044
02:00:12,160 --> 02:00:14,440
Speaker 2: Detroit winners. Give yourself about three or four months and

2045
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 2: maybe the sun will pop out. But I digress. Listen.

2046
02:00:19,120 --> 02:00:22,920
Speaker 2: I want to start by saying that I think I

2047
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,640
Speaker 2: owe Bill Belichick an apology. Maybe many of us do,

2048
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:30,880
Speaker 2: because I'm hearing some very positive early returns. We don't

2049
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 2: know if he's gonna win at North Carolina, but very

2050
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 2: positive early returns from everything on the recruiting trails, of

2051
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:40,680
Speaker 2: the receptions he's getting from fans and alumni, to the

2052
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:43,920
Speaker 2: staff he's put together, even a nod from Michael Jordan.

2053
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,800
Speaker 2: You've been the Belichick and Saturder going back two years

2054
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:49,640
Speaker 2: when you predicted it would be his last year in

2055
02:00:49,640 --> 02:00:52,040
Speaker 2: New England, and it was, what are you hearing? What

2056
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,960
Speaker 2: can you tell us about? But Bill Belichick's actually doing there.

2057
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:58,360
Speaker 5: I think it is spawn on Bernie, because when this

2058
02:00:58,520 --> 02:01:01,240
Speaker 5: first happened, kind of thought it was like going to

2059
02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:04,760
Speaker 5: be a little dog and pony show. What's Bill doing?

2060
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:08,440
Speaker 5: What's he going back to college? And you know, North

2061
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 5: Carolina of all places. Uh, started to put the pieces together,

2062
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 5: brought the band back together. Michael Lombardi, his son, the

2063
02:01:21,000 --> 02:01:25,400
Speaker 5: four hundred page I guess we'll call it the Bible

2064
02:01:25,560 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 5: that you know he sent to un see the script.

2065
02:01:28,640 --> 02:01:29,840
Speaker 5: I guess we'll call it.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 5: A lot of us, you know, the June first bio clauses,

2068
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:38,400
Speaker 5: but a lot of us were skeptical. Uh, couple last

2069
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 5: minute holdouts. Maybe Dallas would call, Maybe uh New Orleans

2070
02:01:44,480 --> 02:01:50,120
Speaker 5: would call. Well, you're right. Uh, he's there, and he's excited.

2071
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:55,160
Speaker 5: He's locally come back to the big schools in Massachusetts,

2072
02:01:55,640 --> 02:02:03,200
Speaker 5: the Archbishop Williams, the Everetts, the fark Borrows, recruiting, believe

2073
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 5: it or not, going into the parents' homes and talking

2074
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:11,200
Speaker 5: to their sons. Just sent a potential scholarship to the

2075
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Speaker 5: Garrick once son. Yeah, which would be a couple of

2076
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 5: years now down the line. I don't mean this, ton.

2077
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:23,960
Speaker 5: You're taking this seriously, as in excited and ready to go,

2078
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 5: and maybe it's just a one year deal. Meaning gay,

2079
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 5: my name's relevant again, maybe we get to the final twelve,

2080
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:36,720
Speaker 5: maybe we get to the ACC Championship, but really making

2081
02:02:36,800 --> 02:02:41,080
Speaker 5: his name relevant again, getting the coaching skills back to

2082
02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:44,280
Speaker 5: where he needs him to be to maybe make another

2083
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 5: run next year into the NFL coaching carousel.

2084
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Speaker 2: Okay, hold that though, I'm definitely going to circle back

2085
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:54,680
Speaker 2: to that. He's been on the job two months. He

2086
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:59,080
Speaker 2: took the job December twelfth. Then he inherited a recruiting

2087
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 2: class that was complete and disheveled and tatters, believe it

2088
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 2: or not. After National Signing Day, it's moved all the

2089
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 2: way up to number forty in ESPN's ranking class. And

2090
02:03:11,320 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 2: he I understand he actually did offer a scholarship to

2091
02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 2: Legarrett Blunt, Legarrett Blunt Junior I think his name is,

2092
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 2: And of course you know Blunt was a thousand yard

2093
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:25,400
Speaker 2: Russia with the Patriots. But before I move forward, I

2094
02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 2: have a question. My last inquisition about this question I'm

2095
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 2: going to ask you was that No, it was a no.

2096
02:03:34,000 --> 02:03:36,760
Speaker 2: Has Bill Pelichick officially signed his contract yet?

2097
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Speaker 4: Yes?

2098
02:03:38,320 --> 02:03:41,440
Speaker 2: Yes he did do that. Okay, that's why we have you.

2099
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:46,480
Speaker 5: Okay, yes he did. That was like the million dollar

2100
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 5: question of verbal Yes, everything was there but the XS

2101
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 5: and Os, and it was almost one of these last

2102
02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 5: you know, Dallas job was still available, Jerry didn't come knock,

2103
02:03:59,800 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 5: and and of course the Saints' job was still available,

2104
02:04:03,720 --> 02:04:06,960
Speaker 5: and they were going back and forth, obviously with Kellen

2105
02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 5: Moore in the Super Bowl, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

2106
02:04:10,200 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 5: So it has officially been signed.

2107
02:04:12,920 --> 02:04:15,560
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks, Jeff, that's all we have you. I want

2108
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:20,120
Speaker 2: to circle back for just a second because the one

2109
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:24,160
Speaker 2: you know, punchline about Belichick was, oh, come on, how's

2110
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 2: he going to go out and recruit high school kids? Well,

2111
02:04:27,120 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 2: here's how he's gonna do it. He managed to get

2112
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,240
Speaker 2: a kid out of a high school kid out of

2113
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 2: North Carolina named Xavion Griffin Haynes, and he was he

2114
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:40,560
Speaker 2: was a star studded, you know, defensive end at some

2115
02:04:40,720 --> 02:04:43,800
Speaker 2: high school. And it's my understanding, he sat the kid

2116
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 2: down and he showed up a bunch of same pass

2117
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:51,280
Speaker 2: rush pointers, the same one he showed to Lawrence Taylor

2118
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:54,000
Speaker 2: back in the eighties, compared him to Lawrence Taylor, and

2119
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 2: he said, Xavion, you're gonna have to go to college first,

2120
02:04:57,440 --> 02:05:00,000
Speaker 2: but you're not only an NFL player You're a first

2121
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,800
Speaker 2: rounder based on who you are, what you bring to

2122
02:05:02,840 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 2: the table, and what I've experienced. When Bill Belichick does

2123
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:10,040
Speaker 2: add to a high school kid, all of a sudden,

2124
02:05:10,160 --> 02:05:14,160
Speaker 2: now this is a game changer. Were we completely wrong

2125
02:05:14,320 --> 02:05:18,800
Speaker 2: about Billichick's ability to close kids on the high school

2126
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:20,480
Speaker 2: level as he appears to have been doing.

2127
02:05:20,920 --> 02:05:27,000
Speaker 5: Ah, great question, Bertie. I'm going to say yes. Initially.

2128
02:05:28,080 --> 02:05:33,400
Speaker 5: You know, Bill has the rings. When you talk about

2129
02:05:33,680 --> 02:05:38,600
Speaker 5: Lawrence Taylor, that is his prodigal son. There is no

2130
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:42,880
Speaker 5: better defensive player in the NFL history. If you ever

2131
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:46,280
Speaker 5: say a bad word about Lawrence Taylor, it's like the

2132
02:05:46,400 --> 02:05:49,760
Speaker 5: Forcupine and the Quills come up. I mean, no one

2133
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 5: says anything wrong about Lawrence Taylor. And Bill coming in

2134
02:05:56,280 --> 02:06:00,680
Speaker 5: with the game plan, with the script into your home

2135
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:04,440
Speaker 5: and saying, hey, if you want to be an NFL star,

2136
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:08,680
Speaker 5: if you want to go to Super Bowls, I have

2137
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 5: the script rate here.

2138
02:06:10,240 --> 02:06:10,560
Speaker 4: Come in.

2139
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:13,400
Speaker 5: We'll get you the right techniques. We'll put you in

2140
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 5: the right situations to then make it available to you

2141
02:06:18,240 --> 02:06:20,840
Speaker 5: to make the next step. So I think we were

2142
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:26,720
Speaker 5: very apprehensive. But he's doing it, he's enjoying it, and

2143
02:06:26,880 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 5: he's back in the game. So hats off the bill.

2144
02:06:31,000 --> 02:06:33,360
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things he's done, and this is

2145
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:35,880
Speaker 2: out of the time, is a playbook. Is A knew

2146
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:39,800
Speaker 2: Tom when I was in Michigan. If you're going to recruit,

2147
02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:42,040
Speaker 2: you got to win your state, all right. In Michigan,

2148
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 2: state gets who they want pretty much in Michigan for basketball,

2149
02:06:46,760 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 2: Belichich has served notice to North Carolina that's going to

2150
02:06:50,720 --> 02:06:52,760
Speaker 2: be his state. There's a lot of talent in the state.

2151
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:55,480
Speaker 2: And he's not only doing it, he just got a quarterback,

2152
02:06:56,080 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 2: a top quarterback out of the state as well. So

2153
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:01,800
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, yeah, I'm very impressed. There's

2154
02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 2: even stories that he's having a blast on the recruiting trail.

2155
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:08,800
Speaker 2: Love visiting high schools, loves talking to coaches, loves asking questions,

2156
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:11,120
Speaker 2: loves breaking down film evaluating players.

2157
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:12,320
Speaker 4: So I was wrong.

2158
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,720
Speaker 2: Now the other thing too, he's still got to finish

2159
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:18,200
Speaker 2: putting together a staff. It's almost complete. He's got guys

2160
02:07:18,280 --> 02:07:22,200
Speaker 2: like Mike Lombardi and Freddie Kitchens and Steve Belichick. Any

2161
02:07:22,240 --> 02:07:24,120
Speaker 2: word on how he completes the rest of his staff

2162
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:24,560
Speaker 2: or how.

2163
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 5: That goes, it's been real quiet.

2164
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:28,520
Speaker 4: You know.

2165
02:07:29,080 --> 02:07:32,680
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels ended up holding out and ended up here

2166
02:07:32,840 --> 02:07:37,600
Speaker 5: in New England with Mike Prable. Well, you talked about Kitchens, Lombardi,

2167
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:42,400
Speaker 5: his son. I haven't heard a lot of late and

2168
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:46,840
Speaker 5: what is still needed. I did see some snapshots not

2169
02:07:46,920 --> 02:07:51,200
Speaker 5: too long ago of him again locally in town. You know,

2170
02:07:51,680 --> 02:07:54,800
Speaker 5: if you play lacrosse or you you know you play.

2171
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 5: That was an added bonus, tongue.

2172
02:07:56,960 --> 02:08:01,200
Speaker 4: In cheek there fort Bill just having a blast.

2173
02:08:02,440 --> 02:08:07,080
Speaker 5: Surprisingly, you know, they came out with the cutoffs leeve

2174
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 5: hoodie form in this press conference, and it's going to

2175
02:08:12,440 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 5: be interesting, you know, another added bonus for us back

2176
02:08:16,520 --> 02:08:20,520
Speaker 5: east here on Saturdays? What did North Carolina do?

2177
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:23,480
Speaker 4: And then oh, by the way, the Patriots are on Sunday.

2178
02:08:24,600 --> 02:08:26,520
Speaker 2: All right, so we're going to continue to watch this.

2179
02:08:26,640 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 2: All you got is mention the name Bill Belichick, and

2180
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:32,480
Speaker 2: you're going to draw attention. And I think his subject

2181
02:08:32,520 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 2: matter is fairly well evergreen. And pretty soon before you

2182
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 2: know it, they're going to be in spring football. So

2183
02:08:39,120 --> 02:08:41,880
Speaker 2: right around the corner, all right, we pitchers and catchers

2184
02:08:41,920 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 2: are reporting there's major news coming out of Boston, which

2185
02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:47,560
Speaker 2: made the timing of you coming on that not even better.

2186
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:52,880
Speaker 2: Having been to Fenway many times, having spent a fair

2187
02:08:52,880 --> 02:08:54,640
Speaker 2: amount of time in Boston. I know what the team

2188
02:08:54,720 --> 02:08:57,560
Speaker 2: means of that city. I'm guessing you weren't too happy

2189
02:08:57,600 --> 02:08:59,320
Speaker 2: that they were eighty one and eighty one last year.

2190
02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 2: You continue to watch this eve, the Empire, the Yankees

2191
02:09:02,320 --> 02:09:05,800
Speaker 2: right go past you. So the Red Sox sign Walker

2192
02:09:05,840 --> 02:09:07,760
Speaker 2: b You learned a wald As Chapman and they trade

2193
02:09:08,240 --> 02:09:10,440
Speaker 2: make a great trade with the White Sox for Garrett Kochet.

2194
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:14,280
Speaker 2: But then the icing on the cake, Alex Bregman three years,

2195
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million dollars deal that is to me,

2196
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:21,600
Speaker 2: a real game changer. Breakdown what Alex Bregman means to

2197
02:09:21,680 --> 02:09:23,959
Speaker 2: this team and manager Alex Cora.

2198
02:09:24,440 --> 02:09:30,720
Speaker 5: Duck boats parades. We're relevant again, Bernie. We've been irrelevant

2199
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:34,320
Speaker 5: for four years now and we haven't spent the dime.

2200
02:09:34,920 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 5: The only thing that we were able to do is

2201
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:43,320
Speaker 5: now officially have the number one ranked farm system in MLB.

2202
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:47,000
Speaker 5: So you're spot on. You add Garrett Crochet. We have

2203
02:09:47,200 --> 02:09:50,000
Speaker 5: them for two years, but we will get an extension,

2204
02:09:50,920 --> 02:09:56,760
Speaker 5: a bigger version of Garty of Chris Sale, Bigger, stronger

2205
02:09:57,720 --> 02:10:00,600
Speaker 5: only through one hundred and forty five in average twelve

2206
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 5: point nine strikeouts per nine legitimate ace ad Warker Buehler

2207
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 5: looked phenomenal in the playoffs and World Series, and that

2208
02:10:13,520 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 5: what that enabled us to do was to take out ones,

2209
02:10:16,560 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 5: twos and threes our Crawford's are bellows and then drop

2210
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,280
Speaker 5: them down in the order. Add eraldis Chapman for about

2211
02:10:24,360 --> 02:10:28,600
Speaker 5: twelve million dollars. Jansen now an angel. So we were

2212
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:34,560
Speaker 5: missing that one piece our infield defensively horrific. Trevor Story

2213
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:38,320
Speaker 5: now healthy. You got two kids coming back, are coming

2214
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:42,440
Speaker 5: up into the system now Campbell and Anthony. We were

2215
02:10:42,560 --> 02:10:46,680
Speaker 5: missing that right handed bat. We were missing leadership, someone

2216
02:10:46,800 --> 02:10:50,600
Speaker 5: that has one that can help the kids' incomes. Fragman

2217
02:10:51,400 --> 02:10:57,080
Speaker 5: an absolute perfect fit initially going to play second. Devis

2218
02:10:57,280 --> 02:11:00,640
Speaker 5: was early into camp and left on Friday to go

2219
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:02,960
Speaker 5: back home and then we'll be back the start of

2220
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:08,000
Speaker 5: the week. Nevers has already been paid. So what's best

2221
02:11:08,080 --> 02:11:12,320
Speaker 5: for this team is to become the second greatest DH

2222
02:11:12,480 --> 02:11:15,040
Speaker 5: of all time for the Red Sox. Of course, David

2223
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:20,080
Speaker 5: Ortiz number one, having devors DH, having Castis at for us,

2224
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:23,880
Speaker 5: Bregman at third, figure out what we have at second.

2225
02:11:23,960 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 5: But there's a huge, huge buzz here in Boston. We're

2226
02:11:28,720 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 5: actually talking Red Sox again excited, and we really think

2227
02:11:33,400 --> 02:11:35,040
Speaker 5: we got a decent shot here, Bernie.

2228
02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:38,560
Speaker 2: So, Raphael Devers has been your guy at third base.

2229
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:43,360
Speaker 2: Obviously he plays the same position as Bregman. It's been

2230
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:46,240
Speaker 2: talked about that Bregman could move the second to keep

2231
02:11:46,320 --> 02:11:50,280
Speaker 2: Devers at third. For some reason, Alex core hasn't confirmed

2232
02:11:50,320 --> 02:11:53,000
Speaker 2: that out, even though Bregman in his entire career is

2233
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 2: only log thirty innings at second base. He's a third

2234
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,240
Speaker 2: He's a gold glove third baseman. Why would Alex Korra

2235
02:11:59,360 --> 02:12:01,960
Speaker 2: equivocate on that? Right now? What's the thinking?

2236
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:08,280
Speaker 5: It's Dev's team. He's technically the face of the team,

2237
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:14,400
Speaker 5: saying all the politically correct things. I almost kind of

2238
02:12:14,520 --> 02:12:19,880
Speaker 5: dancing walking on eggshells here. Bregman also saying all the

2239
02:12:20,040 --> 02:12:23,200
Speaker 5: right things. Hey, listen, I'll do whatever is needed for

2240
02:12:23,360 --> 02:12:27,120
Speaker 5: this team. I have no problem playing second base, turning

2241
02:12:27,200 --> 02:12:31,440
Speaker 5: the double play with Trevor story. Also, Bernie, the Red

2242
02:12:31,520 --> 02:12:36,080
Speaker 5: Sox are unclear right now, Ken Campbell come in to

2243
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:40,760
Speaker 5: camp and take second base if Devs is struggling at

2244
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:48,080
Speaker 5: third Initially, if Campbell is struggling at second base, you

2245
02:12:48,320 --> 02:12:52,120
Speaker 5: have options here. If Campbell comes into camp and is

2246
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:56,080
Speaker 5: absolutely lighting it up at second base. Devs is struggling,

2247
02:12:56,480 --> 02:12:59,440
Speaker 5: then it's a no brainer. Hey, hey, Raphael, do us

2248
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:01,960
Speaker 5: a favorite. They start on the road, I think their

2249
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,320
Speaker 5: first two series at Texas and Baltimore. I think it

2250
02:13:05,440 --> 02:13:09,120
Speaker 5: is before they come home in the Fenway, they'll figure

2251
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:12,120
Speaker 5: this out. And I think when we really start cooking

2252
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:16,480
Speaker 5: here with Chrisco in April and before we get to May,

2253
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:20,480
Speaker 5: if Rafael is struggling at there, they'll just move pregnant

2254
02:13:20,520 --> 02:13:23,120
Speaker 5: right over and then they'll figure out who will.

2255
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:24,240
Speaker 4: Be playing second base.

2256
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:24,640
Speaker 6: Party.

2257
02:13:25,200 --> 02:13:27,360
Speaker 2: I wrap it up with Jeff Dawson e cr R

2258
02:13:27,440 --> 02:13:32,360
Speaker 2: Boston Insider. All right, so just a harsh reality major League.

2259
02:13:32,840 --> 02:13:36,240
Speaker 2: I listen. I think you know, football's better when the

2260
02:13:36,320 --> 02:13:38,520
Speaker 2: Raiders are good. Baseball's better when the Red Sox and

2261
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:43,160
Speaker 2: Yankees are good. It's better for baseball. According to the

2262
02:13:43,160 --> 02:13:45,080
Speaker 2: insiders I talked to, no one can deny that the

2263
02:13:45,160 --> 02:13:48,320
Speaker 2: Red Sox improve themselves. And if you had this team

2264
02:13:48,560 --> 02:13:50,920
Speaker 2: last year, they'd have been a wildcard team, and they

2265
02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:53,800
Speaker 2: might be a wildcard this team this year as well.

2266
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:56,640
Speaker 2: And they've certainly improved their offense a lot, but they

2267
02:13:56,680 --> 02:14:00,240
Speaker 2: were ranked twenty fifth in defense, and they're there's no

2268
02:14:00,760 --> 02:14:04,200
Speaker 2: reason to believe they're any better defensively this year. You

2269
02:14:04,840 --> 02:14:06,960
Speaker 2: do you dismiss the notion that the Red Sox are

2270
02:14:07,000 --> 02:14:08,720
Speaker 2: no better than a wild card team and won't be

2271
02:14:08,760 --> 02:14:11,520
Speaker 2: able to make a real run. Or you know, what

2272
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,320
Speaker 2: is your honest to God because you do this for

2273
02:14:14,360 --> 02:14:17,800
Speaker 2: a living, you know, set aside the odds. Just look

2274
02:14:17,840 --> 02:14:22,240
Speaker 2: at it through your you know your prism is what

2275
02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:24,440
Speaker 2: is the Red Sox ceiling in twenty twenty five?

2276
02:14:25,840 --> 02:14:30,360
Speaker 5: Well, put it this way. With the Bregman signing, I'm

2277
02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:34,440
Speaker 5: already in on over eighty five and a half games.

2278
02:14:34,880 --> 02:14:38,240
Speaker 5: They're under over took a bite at the applet around

2279
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:41,800
Speaker 5: plus four to ten to win the division. They're plus

2280
02:14:41,880 --> 02:14:44,640
Speaker 5: one thousand to win the American League, plus twenty five

2281
02:14:44,760 --> 02:14:49,160
Speaker 5: hundred to win the World Series. Looking at the East, now,

2282
02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:52,920
Speaker 5: the Yankees lost their biggest chip and that Soto. They

2283
02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:59,160
Speaker 5: had Bellinger, Garrett Cole another year older. The Orioles lose

2284
02:14:59,240 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 5: Corbin Burn and Campa Bay is going to be better

2285
02:15:04,680 --> 02:15:08,000
Speaker 5: this year. They get some of their pitchers back, McClanahan

2286
02:15:08,120 --> 02:15:11,080
Speaker 5: and a few others, and the Jays of the Jays

2287
02:15:11,360 --> 02:15:16,520
Speaker 5: they're trying to extend Vladdie here. I think the Socks

2288
02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:20,720
Speaker 5: are the second best team right now in the American League.

2289
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:25,520
Speaker 5: I think they can contend with the Yankees, and I

2290
02:15:25,720 --> 02:15:28,440
Speaker 5: definitely there minus one twenty five to make the playoffs.

2291
02:15:28,800 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 4: I definitely think they'll.

2292
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,440
Speaker 5: Be in the playoffs this year, as long as the

2293
02:15:33,520 --> 02:15:37,360
Speaker 5: pitching stays healthy, and of course their defense will be better.

2294
02:15:37,720 --> 02:15:42,200
Speaker 5: They Rafael potentially playing center, moved Durant to left. They've

2295
02:15:42,200 --> 02:15:45,080
Speaker 5: been trying to get rid of Yoshida and the fifty

2296
02:15:45,120 --> 02:15:48,720
Speaker 5: five million dollars left in that contract. No takers there,

2297
02:15:49,120 --> 02:15:52,600
Speaker 5: but Bernie, I really expect they'll be pushing about ninety

2298
02:15:52,640 --> 02:15:53,480
Speaker 5: wins this year.

2299
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:57,320
Speaker 2: All right. So that over under bet of eighty five,

2300
02:15:57,400 --> 02:16:00,200
Speaker 2: I think it's rock solid. They won eighty one games

2301
02:16:00,280 --> 02:16:03,520
Speaker 2: last year. I think they can win eighty eight this

2302
02:16:03,640 --> 02:16:05,880
Speaker 2: year for sure. And well, you see how coach I mean,

2303
02:16:05,880 --> 02:16:08,880
Speaker 2: you gotta stay healthy. And there's some intangils, Jeff, great stuff.

2304
02:16:08,920 --> 02:16:13,040
Speaker 2: As always, we're gonna follow the Belichick thing, and you know,

2305
02:16:13,120 --> 02:16:16,760
Speaker 2: the four sweetest on words and sports pictures and catchers.

2306
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:20,280
Speaker 2: Report it's upon us and give it a few months, Jeff,

2307
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:22,200
Speaker 2: that's son will pop out there, buddy, and you'll see

2308
02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:24,280
Speaker 2: the green grass at Fenway.

2309
02:16:25,880 --> 02:16:29,040
Speaker 5: Listen, I'll always a seat available for your at Fridley

2310
02:16:29,160 --> 02:16:31,200
Speaker 5: Fenway out for you.

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Speaker 2: I'm always done for a Fenway frank Man. But we

2312
02:16:34,959 --> 02:16:37,600
Speaker 2: gotta start. We gotta start out the casket flagging. That's

2313
02:16:37,640 --> 02:16:40,800
Speaker 2: that's a must. Okay, gotta start at the casket flagging.

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02:16:43,080 --> 02:16:45,439
Speaker 2: That is Jeff Austin. He thanks again. Jeff always appreciated

2315
02:16:45,480 --> 02:16:49,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Austin E c I and he joined us from Boston.

2316
02:16:49,200 --> 02:16:53,160
Speaker 2: He we started having him on Bill Belichick's final year

2317
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:58,640
Speaker 2: on the sideline at with the Patriots, and very aptly

2318
02:16:58,959 --> 02:17:03,280
Speaker 2: he predicted, knowing certain terms by mid October, that this

2319
02:17:03,480 --> 02:17:05,160
Speaker 2: was going to be his last year. I'm were sure

2320
02:17:05,200 --> 02:17:07,680
Speaker 2: how they were gonna do it, what was gonna happen.

2321
02:17:08,360 --> 02:17:11,039
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't think Kraft would fire him in midseason.

2322
02:17:11,160 --> 02:17:13,200
Speaker 2: He didn't do that. I wasn't sure if they were

2323
02:17:13,240 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 2: going to set up so week eightem would be a Belichick.

2324
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:18,199
Speaker 2: The bottom line is he nailed it and we've gone

2325
02:17:18,480 --> 02:17:21,520
Speaker 2: from there. I got to take my hat off to Belichick. Now,

2326
02:17:21,560 --> 02:17:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't know how many games you're gonna win, but

2327
02:17:23,800 --> 02:17:26,440
Speaker 2: he has taking as serious. This is not some twenty

2328
02:17:26,480 --> 02:17:28,120
Speaker 2: malooney thing. And you know what, I blew it. I

2329
02:17:28,200 --> 02:17:32,640
Speaker 2: meant to ask Jeff, what's the reality that Belichick gets

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02:17:32,720 --> 02:17:34,880
Speaker 2: back in the NFL. I do think it's fifty to

2331
02:17:34,959 --> 02:17:39,680
Speaker 2: fifty at least. I just can't believe he'd get this

2332
02:17:39,800 --> 02:17:42,200
Speaker 2: close to Shula and want to beg off.

2333
02:17:42,600 --> 02:17:43,320
Speaker 1: But what do I know.

2334
02:17:43,480 --> 02:17:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean, he's talked about wanting that record, and I

2335
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:50,640
Speaker 2: know that I believe when Don Shula was live, I

2336
02:17:50,760 --> 02:17:53,320
Speaker 2: think I was told this that he cast his versions

2337
02:17:53,360 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 2: on Belichick's record because of the the flake gate and

2338
02:17:57,720 --> 02:17:59,760
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But by hell, who knows?

2339
02:18:00,640 --> 02:18:04,600
Speaker 2: All right, coming up, I promised that I would at

2340
02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:11,320
Speaker 2: least touch on the USA Canada hockey takeaways. The gentlemen

2341
02:18:11,360 --> 02:18:14,520
Speaker 2: who tweeted at me Patrick earlier in the show. He

2342
02:18:14,600 --> 02:18:16,680
Speaker 2: wants to hear some Look, you can't really talk a

2343
02:18:16,720 --> 02:18:21,720
Speaker 2: lot of hockey to a national audience and expect him

2344
02:18:21,840 --> 02:18:24,640
Speaker 2: to be engaged. You got to play the hits. But

2345
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:26,760
Speaker 2: you can't ignore this either, all right. I mean, I

2346
02:18:26,800 --> 02:18:28,880
Speaker 2: don't know if he saw the USA Canada tilt. And

2347
02:18:28,959 --> 02:18:33,320
Speaker 2: by the way, USA advances to the championship game on

2348
02:18:34,640 --> 02:18:37,959
Speaker 2: Thursday night eat Sweden, But hell, the first ten seconds

2349
02:18:38,000 --> 02:18:40,320
Speaker 2: of the game are epic. Three fights, all that we're

2350
02:18:40,360 --> 02:18:43,520
Speaker 2: missing with the Hanson Brothers. You know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie fradderwar kemedy lyon from Las Vegas, Fox Sports

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02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,400
Speaker 2: Radio terat dot com studios. Keep it locked and listening

2353
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:51,440
Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fratter Show on Fox Sports Radio.

2354
02:18:52,400 --> 02:18:55,280
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2355
02:18:55,320 --> 02:18:58,680
Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio

2356
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:02,880
Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2357
02:19:03,040 --> 02:19:03,680
Speaker 3: listen live.

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02:19:05,680 --> 02:19:08,240
Speaker 2: We're back at the Bernie Frattle Show Fox Sports Radio,

2359
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:14,480
Speaker 2: Keevil AFTERTAK dot com studios here in Las Vegas. All right,

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02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:17,360
Speaker 2: I hope you saw it because it was worth the

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02:19:17,520 --> 02:19:23,680
Speaker 2: watch in the UH four Nations faceoff matchup between USA

2362
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:26,920
Speaker 2: and Canada. And by the way, props to the USA team.

2363
02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:30,560
Speaker 2: They advanced to the championship game versus Sweden next Thursday,

2364
02:19:30,640 --> 02:19:35,039
Speaker 2: the twentieth of February. This is the first best on bet,

2365
02:19:35,520 --> 02:19:40,000
Speaker 2: best on best matchup between these two countries in nine years,

2366
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:42,200
Speaker 2: and the US pulls out a three to one win

2367
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:45,040
Speaker 2: and they were the better team. And I'm telling you,

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02:19:45,120 --> 02:19:49,040
Speaker 2: if anybody doesn't think this matchup wasn't highly anticipated and

2369
02:19:49,320 --> 02:19:54,240
Speaker 2: there isn't tremendous hype and animosity and anger and competition

2370
02:19:54,920 --> 02:19:57,680
Speaker 2: in between these two teams while the NBA dances around

2371
02:19:57,720 --> 02:20:01,080
Speaker 2: and plays footsies with these stupid gimmicky things on All

2372
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:03,880
Speaker 2: Star Week and the NHL got after it. You don't

2373
02:20:03,879 --> 02:20:06,400
Speaker 2: believe me. Hell, they had even finished the national anthem.

2374
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:09,200
Speaker 2: The game was played in Montreal the Bell Center, A

2375
02:20:09,400 --> 02:20:13,520
Speaker 2: very raucous crowd booed the Star spangled banner, booed it.

2376
02:20:13,879 --> 02:20:16,000
Speaker 2: Then in the first ten seconds there were three fights.

2377
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:18,840
Speaker 2: All it was missing were the Hanson brothers from slap Shot.

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02:20:19,400 --> 02:20:21,720
Speaker 2: Once they got all that Michigan gots out of their system,

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02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:25,120
Speaker 2: USA they pull out their first win over Canada in

2380
02:20:25,200 --> 02:20:29,959
Speaker 2: a major tournament since the twenty ten Olympics. Low scoring affairs,

2381
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:31,400
Speaker 2: two to one, and then you had the empty nettor

2382
02:20:31,840 --> 02:20:35,080
Speaker 2: Detroit Red Wings captain Dylan Larkin believe he's a Michigan

2383
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:39,040
Speaker 2: State Guyard Michigan are on the two game winning goal,

2384
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:43,560
Speaker 2: capitalized on a two on one, got the shot under

2385
02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:47,840
Speaker 2: Canadian goalie Jordan Bennington. By the way again, Okay, this

2386
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:53,840
Speaker 2: rivalry was ignited, reignited, and Team USA clinch is a

2387
02:20:53,840 --> 02:20:58,840
Speaker 2: spot on Thursday's championship game. But what was the difference

2388
02:20:59,480 --> 02:21:03,880
Speaker 2: Connor Hello. Everybody said the USA had the advantage in that.

2389
02:21:04,040 --> 02:21:06,760
Speaker 2: Connor Hallibuok is a two time Vesna Trophy winner. He

2390
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:08,720
Speaker 2: is the best goalie in the world, and he lived

2391
02:21:08,800 --> 02:21:11,560
Speaker 2: up to that billing Saturday night. He may have given

2392
02:21:11,640 --> 02:21:13,600
Speaker 2: up the first goal of the game, but it really

2393
02:21:13,680 --> 02:21:18,320
Speaker 2: wasn't his fault, all right. You had a speedy Connor

2394
02:21:18,400 --> 02:21:23,119
Speaker 2: McDavid coming at you like hell on wheels, and usually

2395
02:21:23,400 --> 02:21:25,880
Speaker 2: Connor McDavid gets it done. But after that, forget it.

2396
02:21:26,400 --> 02:21:29,880
Speaker 2: Stood on his head, had a great game, and the

2397
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:33,080
Speaker 2: USA played a very spirited game. Dylan Larkett had impact,

2398
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:38,160
Speaker 2: Jake Gunsel and let's you know, it ended a very

2399
02:21:38,320 --> 02:21:42,520
Speaker 2: lengthy drought against Canada, and again the United States punched

2400
02:21:42,560 --> 02:21:45,280
Speaker 2: their ticket to the Four Nations face off Championship game,

2401
02:21:45,600 --> 02:21:51,760
Speaker 2: which would be played Thursday night. It's been an amazing tournament. Frankly,

2402
02:21:51,879 --> 02:21:55,080
Speaker 2: it's been something that has kind of caught my eye

2403
02:21:55,120 --> 02:21:57,400
Speaker 2: and came out of nowhere. They planned for this for

2404
02:21:57,440 --> 02:22:01,000
Speaker 2: a long time and there was some build up and

2405
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:03,920
Speaker 2: the closer you got a lot of hype. It lived

2406
02:22:04,000 --> 02:22:07,360
Speaker 2: up to the hype. It just simply did tune in

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02:22:07,480 --> 02:22:10,360
Speaker 2: Thursday night. I think you'd be glad you did. As

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02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:13,240
Speaker 2: you know, we covered all here on the Bernie Frider Show.

2409
02:22:13,600 --> 02:22:17,800
Speaker 2: We've talked a lot of football F T B, A

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Speaker 2: L L. We also talked some football f U T

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02:22:23,160 --> 02:22:27,720
Speaker 2: B O L. We call it soccer. It's time Chris

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02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:29,080
Speaker 2: Purfetts World of Soccer.

2413
02:22:31,000 --> 02:22:41,600
Speaker 3: The greatest goals, the thrilling finishes, the international drama.

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02:22:46,879 --> 02:22:50,280
Speaker 1: It's all here in this report from the World of Soccer.

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02:22:50,600 --> 02:22:53,800
Speaker 8: Bernie World of Soccer begins tonight in Germany, with about

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02:22:54,200 --> 02:22:57,760
Speaker 8: twelve matches left for most teams in the Bundesliga season.

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02:22:57,800 --> 02:23:01,039
Speaker 8: I won't call the league over, however, with the result

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02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:05,320
Speaker 8: on Saturday, we might be closer to a champion than

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02:23:05,440 --> 02:23:08,400
Speaker 8: ever before. Here early in this season, where at least

2420
02:23:08,440 --> 02:23:11,360
Speaker 8: some other leagues have a little bit of drama going on.

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02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:14,280
Speaker 8: Real Madrid and a Letico Madrid separated by a point

2422
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:16,560
Speaker 8: at chase in the Premier League, we'll talk about. But

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02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:20,920
Speaker 8: Bayern Munich has a eight point lead at this time

2424
02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:22,800
Speaker 8: of the year and they have kept that eight point

2425
02:23:22,879 --> 02:23:28,360
Speaker 8: lead following a draw nil nil against Leverkusen on Saturday.

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02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:32,720
Speaker 8: Buyer Liverkusen, of course, the reigning champion of the Bundesliga,

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02:23:33,320 --> 02:23:37,520
Speaker 8: insatiable pressing in this game, but scoreless, Munich survives.

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Speaker 7: And that eight point lead might be fairly insurmountable.

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02:23:40,879 --> 02:23:41,400
Speaker 2: At this point.

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02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:42,560
Speaker 7: I've always been shocked.

2431
02:23:42,760 --> 02:23:45,920
Speaker 8: I've always been surprised to see something different happening, but

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02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:51,240
Speaker 8: it's Munich's not been the Bayern Munich of old. However,

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02:23:51,360 --> 02:23:54,200
Speaker 8: Leverkusen is certainly not putting on a repeat of their

2434
02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:56,360
Speaker 8: performance from the past year.

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02:23:57,760 --> 02:23:59,959
Speaker 7: If you remember, at this point last.

2436
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:03,360
Speaker 8: Year, Bayer Leverkusen basically had Bundesliga wrapped up. They had

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02:24:03,400 --> 02:24:07,600
Speaker 8: been on an insatiable amount of scoring that had seen

2438
02:24:07,640 --> 02:24:12,360
Speaker 8: them take dominating leads all across Europe and taking home

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02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:17,280
Speaker 8: a Bundesliga trophy. However, in the past five matches in

2440
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:20,000
Speaker 8: the German league they have been held to a draw

2441
02:24:20,320 --> 02:24:24,880
Speaker 8: three times. Bayern Munich, however, hasn't suffered a loss in

2442
02:24:25,000 --> 02:24:28,320
Speaker 8: Bundesliga since I would say the middle of December when

2443
02:24:28,400 --> 02:24:31,560
Speaker 8: they lost to Mainz to one. It has been a

2444
02:24:31,760 --> 02:24:35,080
Speaker 8: pretty good run for the German giants, and of course,

2445
02:24:35,160 --> 02:24:37,880
Speaker 8: over twenty goals so far on the season for one

2446
02:24:38,280 --> 02:24:41,040
Speaker 8: Harry Kane. On top of that, they passed the first

2447
02:24:41,200 --> 02:24:45,680
Speaker 8: leg of YUEFA knockout round with Scottish side Celtic with

2448
02:24:45,959 --> 02:24:48,680
Speaker 8: basically flying colors to one. These two clubs have been

2449
02:24:48,720 --> 02:24:51,240
Speaker 8: circling each other for a while, especially with the other

2450
02:24:51,320 --> 02:24:55,080
Speaker 8: German giant, Barussia Dortman taking a noticeable step back. They

2451
02:24:55,360 --> 02:24:59,400
Speaker 8: currently sit I believe eleventh on the German table and

2452
02:24:59,480 --> 02:25:03,840
Speaker 8: i'm trek Rankfurt is a distant third behind Leeferkusen, so

2453
02:25:04,360 --> 02:25:06,680
Speaker 8: the two can still go at it. The season isn't

2454
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:09,960
Speaker 8: over just yet, but it's getting late early and Bayern

2455
02:25:10,080 --> 02:25:12,560
Speaker 8: Munich looks to be back once again after spending a

2456
02:25:12,680 --> 02:25:15,600
Speaker 8: year off from their winning ways, back to claiming another

2457
02:25:15,879 --> 02:25:20,040
Speaker 8: German title. Meanwhile, close races continue in Italy with Knopoli,

2458
02:25:20,120 --> 02:25:24,199
Speaker 8: Internazion Now and Atalanta all separated by about five points

2459
02:25:24,480 --> 02:25:27,120
Speaker 8: we mentioned earlier the Spanish La Liga, with that Lettico

2460
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:30,920
Speaker 8: Madrid of Real Madrid and Barcelona even not far behind

2461
02:25:31,000 --> 02:25:34,120
Speaker 8: that I think three points behind Real Madrid all waiting

2462
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:35,640
Speaker 8: to slug it out to the very end.

2463
02:25:35,959 --> 02:25:39,000
Speaker 7: The Premier League is going to remain some consternation.

2464
02:25:39,200 --> 02:25:41,520
Speaker 8: I still don't think Liverpool can be caught, but Arsenal

2465
02:25:41,600 --> 02:25:43,480
Speaker 8: is going to make a very good go of it

2466
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:46,920
Speaker 8: as Nottingham Forest kind of drops to about ten points

2467
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:50,240
Speaker 8: back in the third Something interesting happened though this weekend,

2468
02:25:50,560 --> 02:25:56,040
Speaker 8: as Manchester City found themselves with a very very surprising

2469
02:25:57,480 --> 02:26:00,600
Speaker 8: tat trick from one of their younger players, twenty six

2470
02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:04,800
Speaker 8: year old or Marma Musch, who had a hat trick

2471
02:26:04,959 --> 02:26:11,560
Speaker 8: in thirteen minutes against Newcastle United, who Newcastle are not slouches,

2472
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:12,879
Speaker 8: they are not at the bottom of the tail by

2473
02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:16,920
Speaker 8: any stretch of the imagination, overwhelmed them and it's given

2474
02:26:17,000 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 8: some life to Manchester City, who I think at this

2475
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:22,600
Speaker 8: point is just really trying to play for a Champions

2476
02:26:22,680 --> 02:26:25,840
Speaker 8: League spot, assuming of course they don't just get absolutely

2477
02:26:25,879 --> 02:26:32,040
Speaker 8: slaughtered in the tribunal's decisions over their financial improprieties. It

2478
02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:36,320
Speaker 8: is a scoring avalanche from Marmousch and it's something that

2479
02:26:36,400 --> 02:26:40,960
Speaker 8: City will need moving forward, especially as their great star

2480
02:26:41,040 --> 02:26:44,960
Speaker 8: Earling Holland left this game in the second half. City

2481
02:26:45,040 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 8: coach Pep Guardiola saying they are hopeful to have Hauling

2482
02:26:48,959 --> 02:26:52,959
Speaker 8: back in time for their knockout round game against Real

2483
02:26:53,040 --> 02:26:55,840
Speaker 8: Madrid in the Champions League. But this is the busy

2484
02:26:56,000 --> 02:27:00,119
Speaker 8: part of the season, Bernie, and the pressure just keeps ratcheting.

2485
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:03,600
Speaker 7: Up tighter and tighter for all of these clubs. Across Europe.

2486
02:27:04,160 --> 02:27:06,120
Speaker 8: And finally, Bernie, we're going to talk about this more

2487
02:27:06,280 --> 02:27:08,840
Speaker 8: next week as we get more details out here, but

2488
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:13,000
Speaker 8: the MLS might actually be seeing some competition here in

2489
02:27:13,240 --> 02:27:17,480
Speaker 8: North America. USL, the United Soccer League, which is run

2490
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:20,760
Speaker 8: the other the rest of the pyramid outside of MLS

2491
02:27:21,120 --> 02:27:25,120
Speaker 8: for American soccer and defines itself by grassroots soccer clubs

2492
02:27:25,160 --> 02:27:28,400
Speaker 8: such as Detroit City FC and the Pittsburgh River Hounds,

2493
02:27:28,959 --> 02:27:31,800
Speaker 8: is saying that they are planning on making a Division

2494
02:27:31,879 --> 02:27:35,920
Speaker 8: ones men's professional league in twenty twenty seven. This would

2495
02:27:35,959 --> 02:27:40,360
Speaker 8: make MLS Championship Division two and their Division one would

2496
02:27:41,040 --> 02:27:44,520
Speaker 8: challenge MLS itself. They certainly would have the star power

2497
02:27:44,560 --> 02:27:47,280
Speaker 8: of someone like Leonel Messi, but I think that the

2498
02:27:47,400 --> 02:27:51,480
Speaker 8: value proposition of a league that is committed to things

2499
02:27:51,720 --> 02:27:58,039
Speaker 8: such as not aggressively over expanding promotion, relegation, and grassroots

2500
02:27:58,120 --> 02:28:02,240
Speaker 8: ownership across these leagues, it would be something very very

2501
02:28:02,360 --> 02:28:05,240
Speaker 8: interesting to see. It's gonna be started by twenty twenty seven,

2502
02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:07,760
Speaker 8: and it's part of a push now when coincide with

2503
02:28:07,959 --> 02:28:11,200
Speaker 8: a North American World Cup that would be happening here

2504
02:28:11,280 --> 02:28:14,720
Speaker 8: in twenty twenty six, and we're going to dive more

2505
02:28:14,760 --> 02:28:17,040
Speaker 8: into this next time in the world of soccer, because

2506
02:28:17,040 --> 02:28:19,960
Speaker 8: this is really really interesting and I really want to

2507
02:28:20,000 --> 02:28:22,080
Speaker 8: get some more details on this. This was just announced

2508
02:28:22,080 --> 02:28:24,960
Speaker 8: on Thursday. We're still building the portfolio. We'll talk to

2509
02:28:25,000 --> 02:28:25,959
Speaker 8: you next time, Bernie.

2510
02:28:27,959 --> 02:28:33,000
Speaker 2: So I know the MLS has always had big aspirations.

2511
02:28:33,600 --> 02:28:38,040
Speaker 2: How else do you learn a lurea Lionel Messi and

2512
02:28:38,680 --> 02:28:41,880
Speaker 2: you know they host a check that they play in Miami.

2513
02:28:43,320 --> 02:28:45,360
Speaker 2: In Miami plays at Vancouver White Captain. I'm not sure

2514
02:28:45,360 --> 02:28:47,240
Speaker 2: when that game is supposed to take place. I think

2515
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:50,160
Speaker 2: it was the Vancouver BC Place, which begs the question

2516
02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:54,360
Speaker 2: do they sell enough tickets to you know, fill those venues.

2517
02:28:54,480 --> 02:28:58,160
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, All right, coming up, Dak Prescott,

2518
02:28:58,320 --> 02:29:01,840
Speaker 2: are you tripping? Are you hitting me? What I heard

2519
02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:04,920
Speaker 2: what Dak Prescott said? My response was simple, if you

2520
02:29:05,040 --> 02:29:07,240
Speaker 2: need to lie down on the soft chair, get yourself

2521
02:29:07,280 --> 02:29:10,360
Speaker 2: a cold compress, some more milk and soft music, and

2522
02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:15,120
Speaker 2: hope it goes away. Because when you talk stupid like this,

2523
02:29:15,720 --> 02:29:20,840
Speaker 2: all it does is bring more unfair, stupid attention onto

2524
02:29:21,080 --> 02:29:25,680
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys. Why do you do this? Okay, there's

2525
02:29:25,680 --> 02:29:28,040
Speaker 2: an old saying your action speaks so loudly. I can't

2526
02:29:28,080 --> 02:29:30,880
Speaker 2: hear what you're saying. All Dak does is talk. I

2527
02:29:30,959 --> 02:29:33,120
Speaker 2: got nothing against Dak. I just wouldn't want him as

2528
02:29:33,160 --> 02:29:35,879
Speaker 2: my quarterback. Now why did I just do that rant? Well,

2529
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:37,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you coming up as we wrap up the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show. I am Bernie Fraddle. We are coming

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02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:42,320
Speaker 2: to life from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tarrect dot

2532
02:29:42,360 --> 02:29:44,920
Speaker 2: com studios. Keep it locked right here. You're listening to

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02:29:44,959 --> 02:29:50,760
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. I've wrapping

2534
02:29:50,760 --> 02:29:53,080
Speaker 2: it up by the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio,

2535
02:29:53,160 --> 02:29:55,320
Speaker 2: coming to life from the tarac dot com studios here

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02:29:56,040 --> 02:29:59,879
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Thanks so much to my producers mar

2537
02:30:00,080 --> 02:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Can Breed, great job tonight. Always appreciate all the efforts

2538
02:30:03,760 --> 02:30:06,440
Speaker 2: and professionalism. By the way, shortly after the show, our

2539
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:08,720
Speaker 2: podcasts will be going up. If you missed any of

2540
02:30:08,800 --> 02:30:11,480
Speaker 2: tonight's show, be sure to check out the podcasts. Just

2541
02:30:11,560 --> 02:30:14,360
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2542
02:30:14,440 --> 02:30:17,160
Speaker 2: sure to follow, rate and review the podcast again, just

2543
02:30:17,360 --> 02:30:20,360
Speaker 2: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast Just

2544
02:30:20,440 --> 02:30:23,400
Speaker 2: hee the show posted right after we get off the air.

2545
02:30:24,280 --> 02:30:27,240
Speaker 2: You know, the great PT Barnum once said, without promotion

2546
02:30:28,040 --> 02:30:33,200
Speaker 2: something terrible happens nothing. By the way, before I get

2547
02:30:33,240 --> 02:30:37,760
Speaker 2: to Dak Prescott and his self promotion, I have not

2548
02:30:37,920 --> 02:30:40,240
Speaker 2: talked to one ioed about the NBA Tonight or NBA

2549
02:30:40,280 --> 02:30:42,600
Speaker 2: All Star Weekend. That's by design. But I gotta give

2550
02:30:42,680 --> 02:30:46,080
Speaker 2: Mack McClung a little love, Okay, dial up a big move.

2551
02:30:46,120 --> 02:30:49,200
Speaker 2: Saturday Night set the tone made NBA history. The only

2552
02:30:49,320 --> 02:30:52,600
Speaker 2: player in this world of three peats, Pat Mahomes couldn't

2553
02:30:52,600 --> 02:30:55,480
Speaker 2: do it right. Pat Riley couldn't do it. Maybe you

2554
02:30:55,480 --> 02:30:58,440
Speaker 2: shouldn't naven be Pat. Change it to Mac. He did

2555
02:30:58,480 --> 02:31:03,960
Speaker 2: it three consecutive of slam dunk contest titles. This is

2556
02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:06,840
Speaker 2: a guy who plays in the G League. Took a

2557
02:31:06,920 --> 02:31:09,680
Speaker 2: page out of the Blake Griffin book from twenty eleven

2558
02:31:10,320 --> 02:31:13,160
Speaker 2: when he soared over a key of Sedan and slam

2559
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:15,320
Speaker 2: dunk and blah blah blah, and I didn't watch it.

2560
02:31:15,440 --> 02:31:17,600
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Cannight folks have been a great audience.

2561
02:31:18,200 --> 02:31:21,080
Speaker 2: Give it up to Damian Lillard on why he failed

2562
02:31:21,240 --> 02:31:25,279
Speaker 2: his bid to become a third straight three point contest

2563
02:31:26,240 --> 02:31:28,960
Speaker 2: contest title winner, which means he tried to be a

2564
02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:32,000
Speaker 2: three point three p Say that five times fast. Couldn't

2565
02:31:32,040 --> 02:31:35,040
Speaker 2: do it. Give it up to Tyler Hero best of

2566
02:31:35,120 --> 02:31:38,280
Speaker 2: the field, become the fifth player. I don't know what's

2567
02:31:38,360 --> 02:31:40,080
Speaker 2: in the water there in Miami. There have been five

2568
02:31:40,080 --> 02:31:42,320
Speaker 2: different heat players that have wondered over the years. I

2569
02:31:42,400 --> 02:31:44,920
Speaker 2: do think they miss Kitlyn Clark tonight. But Caitlin Clark

2570
02:31:45,360 --> 02:31:47,640
Speaker 2: doesn't need the NBA. The NBA might need her. But

2571
02:31:47,920 --> 02:31:51,800
Speaker 2: if you don't need the NBA, just saying, prove me wrong, NBA,

2572
02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:53,959
Speaker 2: this Luca thing. Will watch the rest of the year.

2573
02:31:54,440 --> 02:31:57,800
Speaker 2: We'll see where it goes. Okay, and we'll see where

2574
02:31:57,800 --> 02:32:00,560
Speaker 2: it goes with Dallas and we'll be watching. But let's

2575
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:03,560
Speaker 2: face it, the league it seemed better days, not that

2576
02:32:03,640 --> 02:32:06,280
Speaker 2: it can't rebound. It did it did in nineteen seventy nine.

2577
02:32:06,520 --> 02:32:08,680
Speaker 2: They're just they're just a magic and bird away from,

2578
02:32:09,480 --> 02:32:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, reviving the league. Although they are making a

2579
02:32:12,360 --> 02:32:14,720
Speaker 2: fortune and the tenant is up, so I'm gonna be

2580
02:32:14,760 --> 02:32:16,920
Speaker 2: fair about that. But you know about the buzz here.

2581
02:32:17,240 --> 02:32:19,200
Speaker 2: Did you hear what Draymond Green said? He called his

2582
02:32:19,320 --> 02:32:25,040
Speaker 2: own product boring? He called his own product boring? All right?

2583
02:32:25,160 --> 02:32:29,120
Speaker 2: What did P. T. Barnum say? I'll repeat the great P. T.

2584
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:38,000
Speaker 2: Barnum once said, quote without promotion, something terrible happens. Nothing

2585
02:32:38,879 --> 02:32:42,240
Speaker 2: end quote. He also said, there's an ass for every seat.

2586
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott, Okay, I really had to do a double take,

2587
02:32:47,920 --> 02:32:51,640
Speaker 2: a triple take, a quadruple take. Actually had the auDA asked?

2588
02:32:51,680 --> 02:32:55,560
Speaker 2: Heeded to say the Cowboys are quote very close to

2589
02:32:55,640 --> 02:33:00,600
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl champion Eagles. I'm not of watching the

2590
02:33:00,680 --> 02:33:03,560
Speaker 2: NBA festivities Saturday night, but I did watch the Super Bowl.

2591
02:33:05,600 --> 02:33:07,400
Speaker 2: How in the hell in this universe can you make

2592
02:33:07,440 --> 02:33:11,440
Speaker 2: a case the Cowboys are on the same universe as

2593
02:33:11,520 --> 02:33:15,920
Speaker 2: the rival of Philadelphia Eagles. Not only did the Eagles

2594
02:33:16,200 --> 02:33:22,160
Speaker 2: impressively dismantle the defending Super Bowl champ Chiefs with raw efficiency,

2595
02:33:22,520 --> 02:33:25,520
Speaker 2: rode them like a stick horse with relative ease forty

2596
02:33:25,560 --> 02:33:31,360
Speaker 2: to twenty two. But oh, by the way, the Eagles

2597
02:33:31,400 --> 02:33:34,360
Speaker 2: had a very dominant performance against a very game, plucky,

2598
02:33:34,480 --> 02:33:38,520
Speaker 2: talented Washington Commander's team. Being in fifty five to twenty three,

2599
02:33:40,200 --> 02:33:44,000
Speaker 2: that's like we're in nineteen eighty five eighty six Bears world,

2600
02:33:44,080 --> 02:33:48,000
Speaker 2: where the Eagles outscored their last two opponents ninety five

2601
02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:53,240
Speaker 2: to forty five. That's a fifty point spread, and Dak

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02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:56,360
Speaker 2: Prescott says, you're close to the Eagles. The gap between

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02:33:56,400 --> 02:33:59,959
Speaker 2: the Cowboys and Eagles. I can't hold my hands out

2604
02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:02,000
Speaker 2: that far, and you couldn't see them on the radio anyway.

2605
02:34:02,320 --> 02:34:05,920
Speaker 2: But Dak Prescott doesn't see things that way. Maybe we

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02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:09,640
Speaker 2: should change his name to bag Dad Bob. He said

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02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:13,520
Speaker 2: quote that the two teams are very close. Quote, I

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02:34:13,720 --> 02:34:17,240
Speaker 2: feel like we compete with the Eagles and beat them

2609
02:34:17,920 --> 02:34:21,440
Speaker 2: for the most part when we play them. Prescott made

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02:34:21,520 --> 02:34:24,960
Speaker 2: these comments while hosting a children's cancer fund at a

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Speaker 2: mall in Dallas. He's good at that kind of stuff.

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02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:30,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to say quote check the record, but

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02:34:30,560 --> 02:34:34,040
Speaker 2: the guys that are holding a Lombardi trophy, don't compare

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02:34:34,080 --> 02:34:36,800
Speaker 2: yourself to them, Dak, because they did it in such

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02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:40,480
Speaker 2: a dominating fashion. Don't compare yourself to them. If you

2616
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:44,560
Speaker 2: have high hopes for the future, that's one thing, you know,

2617
02:34:45,200 --> 02:34:48,800
Speaker 2: You know, you should sound more like Alfred Lutter in

2618
02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:52,160
Speaker 2: Bad News Bearers. Okay, Rome wasn't built in the day, No,

2619
02:34:52,320 --> 02:34:53,600
Speaker 2: it took several hundred years.

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02:34:54,800 --> 02:34:54,959
Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Ironically, over the years, Prescott has had some success against

2622
02:35:00,959 --> 02:35:04,160
Speaker 2: the Eagles. However, not so ironically. During the time that

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02:35:04,240 --> 02:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Prescott's been in the league, the Cowboys have never even

2624
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:13,080
Speaker 2: reached an NFC championship game, never even won a playoff game. Well,

2625
02:35:13,120 --> 02:35:15,640
Speaker 2: maybe they won one. I'm sorry, excuse me, someone, no, correct,

2626
02:35:16,200 --> 02:35:18,800
Speaker 2: the Eagles have hold wait for it, they've been to

2627
02:35:18,920 --> 02:35:23,960
Speaker 2: three Super Bowls and one two. Paging Dak Prescott. You're

2628
02:35:24,040 --> 02:35:25,959
Speaker 2: close to the Eagles. They've been to three Super Bowls,

2629
02:35:26,040 --> 02:35:31,560
Speaker 2: one two. Meanwhile, Mike McCarthy, Barney Robolt, no longer. There

2630
02:35:31,720 --> 02:35:35,000
Speaker 2: nothing against McCarthy. Wherews all that demand for his coaching services.

2631
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:37,280
Speaker 2: He's going to focus on twenty twenty five. Yeah, you

2632
02:35:37,400 --> 02:35:40,520
Speaker 2: do that. And I've got no beef of McCarthy. He's

2633
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:42,760
Speaker 2: a good players, coach and all that stuff. But when

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02:35:42,800 --> 02:35:45,800
Speaker 2: he looks like, you know, the lost at the mall

2635
02:35:45,920 --> 02:35:48,480
Speaker 2: looking for his car in the parking lot, when those

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Speaker 2: two you know, playoff losses that the Cowboys had against

2637
02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:56,840
Speaker 2: the Packers and Niners respectively. Okay, I'm back to Prescott. Okay,

2638
02:35:58,240 --> 02:36:00,360
Speaker 2: And in case you were scoring at home this year,

2639
02:36:00,400 --> 02:36:05,840
Speaker 2: hope you were. The Eagles swept Dallas in their season series. Now,

2640
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:10,800
Speaker 2: what's the status on Dak Prescott? He provided a health update.

2641
02:36:11,520 --> 02:36:14,959
Speaker 2: It was ninety days ago he was having hamstring surgery,

2642
02:36:15,040 --> 02:36:17,120
Speaker 2: which ended his season. He says his health is good,

2643
02:36:18,160 --> 02:36:21,800
Speaker 2: he's doing a lot more. I'm getting there. I'm really

2644
02:36:21,920 --> 02:36:24,440
Speaker 2: looking to amp it up here. I got all my confidence.

2645
02:36:25,560 --> 02:36:31,040
Speaker 2: Will be fine. What the hell do you have any

2646
02:36:31,040 --> 02:36:37,520
Speaker 2: evidence of that? The last public setting was Prescott attending

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02:36:37,640 --> 02:36:42,000
Speaker 2: the Brian Schottenheimer press conference when he was announced as

2648
02:36:42,040 --> 02:36:45,680
Speaker 2: the tenth head coach in team history. Interestingly enough, they've

2649
02:36:45,720 --> 02:36:48,360
Speaker 2: not had like what three or four head coaches in

2650
02:36:48,360 --> 02:36:52,680
Speaker 2: the last ten years. It's pretty clear, at least verbally,

2651
02:36:53,680 --> 02:36:58,040
Speaker 2: that Dak Prescott is on board with a higher So

2652
02:36:58,240 --> 02:37:00,960
Speaker 2: things are looking up. We're close to the I'm doing better.

2653
02:37:01,000 --> 02:37:03,280
Speaker 2: We're gonna amp it up. We're gonna be fine. I

2654
02:37:03,360 --> 02:37:06,200
Speaker 2: once saw a bumper sticker that said anything's possible if

2655
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 2: you don't have to do it. I wouldn't bet a

2656
02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:10,720
Speaker 2: plug nickel on the Cowboys. They're gonna stink again next year.

2657
02:37:10,760 --> 02:37:13,600
Speaker 2: Maybe not as bad, but they might be as bad.

2658
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:17,480
Speaker 2: But at least, according to Prescott, they keep some continuity

2659
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:20,880
Speaker 2: in the offense, which hopefully they should because they've been

2660
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:24,039
Speaker 2: a huge investment in Dak Prescott and his star wide

2661
02:37:24,080 --> 02:37:27,200
Speaker 2: receiver Cede Lamb, and right now they got nothing to

2662
02:37:27,360 --> 02:37:30,720
Speaker 2: show for it. But Prescott said he's really looking forward

2663
02:37:30,720 --> 02:37:33,800
Speaker 2: to worker with Brian Chottenhammer. Well, I think he already was.

2664
02:37:34,879 --> 02:37:37,200
Speaker 2: He said, he's kind of old fashioned. I don't what

2665
02:37:37,280 --> 02:37:39,480
Speaker 2: does that mean, He's kind of What the hell does

2666
02:37:39,520 --> 02:37:42,600
Speaker 2: that mean? Please tell us? He said he's looking forward

2667
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:44,480
Speaker 2: to the grind and some things we're gonna do and

2668
02:37:44,520 --> 02:37:46,119
Speaker 2: he's going to add. Excited for him. I know he's

2669
02:37:46,120 --> 02:37:48,560
Speaker 2: ready for it. He's been in the system a long time.

2670
02:37:49,360 --> 02:37:51,360
Speaker 2: Something else I am is the way he went on

2671
02:37:51,560 --> 02:37:56,080
Speaker 2: with the interviewing process. Hey, I don't know. I actually,

2672
02:37:56,160 --> 02:37:59,320
Speaker 2: by the way, I think football's better if Dallas is good.

2673
02:37:59,400 --> 02:38:01,560
Speaker 2: So I don't root for Dallas. I just have no

2674
02:38:01,600 --> 02:38:05,640
Speaker 2: faith in dak Prescott. And Prescott went on to compliment

2675
02:38:05,720 --> 02:38:08,480
Speaker 2: how shot and iron Heimer is putting together a staff

2676
02:38:08,520 --> 02:38:10,960
Speaker 2: and then the time he's devoted to finding the right assistance.

2677
02:38:12,200 --> 02:38:13,880
Speaker 2: There are a lot of questions though, that really need

2678
02:38:13,959 --> 02:38:17,400
Speaker 2: to be answered about this roster on the field. With

2679
02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:19,080
Speaker 2: a new head coach, who's going to be calling the

2680
02:38:19,160 --> 02:38:21,199
Speaker 2: offensive players? What are going to be the biggest changes?

2681
02:38:21,480 --> 02:38:23,680
Speaker 2: And even if Mike McCarthy had remained as head coach

2682
02:38:23,720 --> 02:38:26,120
Speaker 2: and play caller, they already needed to make a bunch

2683
02:38:26,120 --> 02:38:30,000
Speaker 2: of changes okay, and Schottenheimer said he's got to have

2684
02:38:30,080 --> 02:38:32,360
Speaker 2: a system flexible to meet the player's drinks. Did they

2685
02:38:32,400 --> 02:38:35,240
Speaker 2: do that last year? Prescott said, we got to get

2686
02:38:35,240 --> 02:38:37,279
Speaker 2: the run game goal. And that's all. It's all platitudes.

2687
02:38:37,440 --> 02:38:39,040
Speaker 2: It's like in the stock market. All I gotta do

2688
02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:42,240
Speaker 2: is buy low and sell high. If they can fix

2689
02:38:42,320 --> 02:38:44,200
Speaker 2: this thing, it'll be a miracle. It's gonna do it

2690
02:38:44,280 --> 02:38:46,320
Speaker 2: for the Bernie Frattle Show. Keep it locked up next.

2691
02:38:46,320 --> 02:38:48,640
Speaker 2: They're great, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Radio,