WEBVTT - It's Complicated 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:45.479 If you watch Coffee Time, the baby you know the 0:00:45.600 --> 0:00:48.280 name Flame, my role also known as my Row Flame. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.680 Come in with last and come in with you love lounds. Baby, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:53.800 you better catch it when you can't drop a knowledge 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.920 from Fatherhoods of Politics, Shouting now comics just paying homics. 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.880 What's up tip? Yeah you know she read shout Towns 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.880 on speaking to the grown a second, We're gonna last 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:06.040 kind of kicking and at the end we leave it 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.480 with just a lift dispirit expect you want to revisit 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.200 so your first like a listen, young folks, let old 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:14.360 folks that we take it to no this do you do? 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.840 No do what you do? Can't no kiss? Do what 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:42.680 I do? Welcome to laugh and learn with Flame, mon 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:45.800 Row and Lauren Hogan and Kendo and we have a 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.120 special guest today. Miss guy is running around here somewhere. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.960 That's Lauren's baby. We're glad you guys came to join us. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.120 I missed my lawd. She's back, y'all. We missed her 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:56.680 last week. She was playing looking for No I know 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.240 somebody changed the date of the recording and some of 0:01:59.320 --> 0:02:02.760 us having to the so you know, she couldn't just 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:07.600 roll with me saying that she played hooky girl. Don't 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.840 worry about a little. They talked so bad about my 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:14.120 week last week. Oh my god. Oh they hated my hair. 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.880 They hated I did. But it was a brand new week. 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:19.760 I had got from Ny weeks from Cocoa, and so 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:21.480 I was trying to make it look like Glean close 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:23.400 and fatal attraction. But I made it look like her 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:26.200 after Michael Douglas be the ass. It was after the fight, 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:27.880 not before the fight. I was trying to go before 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:30.400 the fight. I gave you. That's okay. That show was 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.320 great Erica Alexander, thank you for our special guests last week. 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.960 She was so phenomenal and so informative of giving us 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.200 information about so many black and brown women missing this country. 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:42.600 On this put a little makeup on, just a little 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:44.720 changed because we're gonna talk about some things, and I 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.040 can't talk about my trans community. And I looked like 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.679 trains because you know the little hollow. You're not trans. No, 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:52.280 I'm just the anomaly of trains. That's what I am. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:56.680 I am from the anomaly from of course, you know HBC. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.919 You know she always wanted to her HBC. You shipped 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.920 up in the oh my god, why she couldn't been 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:04.799 educated at a different college for the number one. Well, 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.000 thank you guys for joining us today for having learned. 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.360 So we're gonna we're gonna just that, we're all gonnadad 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:11.079 right into we're gonna talk about what has happened. So 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:12.800 this weekend, you guys were there with me when I 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.680 went lave because I hadn't seen my mother in more 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:17.440 than two and a half years. So I surprised Valerie. 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.240 She surprised me because I walked to her house. She 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.080 wasn't even there. She was down to damn how alway 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.600 running her damn mouth. Now y'all know where I get 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.240 it from. But we went to eat. I had a 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:30.519 great visit with my mom. Um. I saw some old pictures. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:31.840 I showed you all picture of me and Jail. I 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.760 showed it to launch. I haven't posted it yet. I'm 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.880 not gonna post it, um because I'm saving it for 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:42.080 the book. Thank you. I shouldn't, he'll hope. So Um 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.000 and I just had a great time. What I want 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:45.840 to tell you, guys is that I actually had a 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.040 chance to go to see the RuPaul's Dragway show. Thank you. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:51.400 Cocomne Trees for the com ticket. When you see her 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:53.240 on here, Laura, let me know because I'm gonna bring 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.920 her own. And y'all known how I feel about RuPaul 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.600 having an inclusion with having the trans girls on her 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:03.440 actual TV show. But I was blown out the water 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.880 at the production of it. And I'm telling you, Lorden, 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.520 I owe you a big thanks to that because your 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.880 show was the actual first. I mean, I've done pageants 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.800 and stuff, but Josha was the first capacity of a 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:17.520 professional show that I've done in that or and so 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.560 I knew all the Inso that was because I was 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.600 I was a soilid show. I was behind the scenes. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.960 It was put together very fabulous. It was. It was 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:30.200 delighting the costumes, the dancers and everything that the personality 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:32.680 of a cocoon. Mantrees hosted and she was great. Eureka 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.360 was great. Uh the other I want to miss nobody's name. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.719 They only Smalls was her name that with the leg 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.200 she was good. And the other girl Cahuna Monetrees. It 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.640 was overall, it was a fucking great show. I encourage 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:46.479 you guys, if you in Vegas to go to the 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.720 Flaming Go and get your tickets to the root pauls 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.800 very ratio. They inter trained the girl so it's not 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:52.880 always the same girls or the same number, so it's 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:56.279 a different show. But the show that I saw was fantastic, 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.760 and I'm telling you, it was fucking fantastic. And if 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.000 it wouldn't have been, I what I said it and 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.719 I saw Eureka Um. She hosted The gladd of Words, 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:07.720 so she's very funny. H and Money is her last 0:05:07.800 --> 0:05:09.720 day today. It's her last day because she's going back 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:11.839 off to tape her show that she does with HBO 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.080 with Angela, so she's off today. But it was a 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.840 phenomenal show and I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I can 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.920 only encourage you guys to go and see it. I 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.800 had a good visit in Vegas. Vegas had the best 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:23.440 weather I've ever been since I ever been going down 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.240 there to my family. It wasn't hot and it wasn't cold. 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:30.440 It was seventy four, seventy six every day, great weather. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.200 But it was a lot of people. It was a 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.200 lot of people. Well everything's opening back. It was a 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:42.240 lot of people and I was a spraying as nobody 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.320 were wearing masks. Nobody was wearing masks and we were 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:49.240 spraying and yeah, but overall had a great time. How 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.640 was your week, Gloren, because we missed you last week? 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:56.120 What girl, where was you in? Well? Actually did I travel? Yes, 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.840 I was in Texas. So UM had a big event 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.640 in Texas. UM but some you know, city council people 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:05.000 and UM we partnered with this young group UM that 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.599 actually makes movies but involves kids as a part of 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:09.800 the program, which was really nice. So we had a 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:12.919 really cute event to showcases film around gentrification that was 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.080 in the oak Cliff area in Dallas, which was great. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:18.280 That is the area where the Trains Young Trains Girl 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:20.120 got Cute a few years ago. Oak Cliffe that's the 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.360 real good area, right, Yeah, but if they're gentrifying it though, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.480 because that's the really ghetto area in Dallas. Yeah. So 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:30.080 we had a whole kind of like film premiere around it. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.760 It's a short, like twenty minute doc. It was really good. 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.440 And yeah, so did that and then came back that 0:06:35.560 --> 0:06:39.080 Sunday and uh, yeah, I've actually got to be home 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.640 for a week. So it's been nice. Well, we're glad 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.440 to have you back to the look at let's got 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.320 legs out today, y'all. Lower legs go for Lord's legs 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:49.680 is about twelve feet long. For real. She could be 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:56.320 a swimmer and swim with the women. That's another show, Okay, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.880 so let's just dive right into it. Let's start with 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.160 Let's start light, and we're gonna start with the drawing. 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.720 Let's start light. So this morning I was on live 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:09.560 on Coffee Time and somebody sent me this clip of 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:12.360 your president, not just your president, but mine because I 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:17.120 voted for him too. And Joe Biden was saying a 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.000 speech and at the end of the speech, I'm just 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.560 gonna let you all look at it. The question is 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:25.160 whose hand is he shaking? Because what nobody there? Joe 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.160 Biden had been in my love lounge, lovelies, that's what 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.920 it is. Lord, Joe Biden had had a couple of 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:32.720 these gummies. Joe, Oh my god, man, he's just he's old, 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:35.160 you know, he's getting a little old. And and as 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.400 much as I am laughing about that, he tried to 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.560 shake an invisible person's hand because he is older and 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.640 it could be seen out or what have you, I 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:45.280 would still rather have voted for him than the other one. 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.960 That's that's not an edited clip, right, that's real, that's real. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:54.880 I tried to find it out, all right, Joe Biden, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:57.360 who was you talking to? Pemper? Somebody was on the 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.280 other side of Joe and we couldn't see them. I'm 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:03.960 just I'm just asking for it's core. It's cool here, 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:09.000 you know, I can't see. But it was what you 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.600 think about that. I just think that he's you know, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.080 he has a lot on his mind. Um, Joe. I 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.240 don't know, poor Joe got it together. I don't know what. 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.560 Maybe he had a lot on his mind, you know, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:23.080 and he thought somebody was supposed to Maybe they rehearsed 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:24.960 it one way and then it didn't happen that way. 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:27.880 You know that happened sometimes I can I can see 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:32.040 that happening. Yeah, maybe didn't match rehearsal when you turn 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.439 like like like tweets say, but when I looked over 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.480 to the left and what nobody there? You're still gonna 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.840 put your hand now, I looked over to the left. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.000 Poor Joe, Poor Joe. But like you said, though, I 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.040 still vote for him again over Trump, over Trump. Even 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:51.000 in these elections, I may still be voting for Joe Biden. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.200 Thank you and thank you for going there. Lauren because 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:56.120 I want to talk about Elon Musk trying to acquire Twitter. 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:58.960 All of that to me is a smoke screen because 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.360 he is in the top one percent. He's the richest 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:04.600 man in the country. Right, No, he's not richer than Okay, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.120 but he gets the same tax break. So if they 0:09:07.120 --> 0:09:09.679 get Trump back in office, that means that his corporations 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.839 has to pay zero to none of taxes. So that 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:15.240 is why I believe he's trying to acquire Twitter so 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.800 that he can put a Trump and Marjorie Trailer Taylor 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.439 green Back on Twitter to completely divide the country. If 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.280 we don't know Trump for nothing else, we know that 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:26.280 Trump is great for his divisiveness, and we keep falling 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.840 for the Oki doke, So pay attention to y'all. I 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.440 think he's trying to acquire to not for them damn cars, 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:34.280 because the cars is I don't want no Tesla. They 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:38.840 ain't got no brain. Tesla's ain't got no brain. Though 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:40.440 now he ain't gonna be broke, but they ain't got 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.960 no brain because here's no decision. Because now did you 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.559 see the man and said when the car cut off 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:46.600 from here, he couldn't do nothing. He didn't know what 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.640 to do with the car. You can't even tell those cars. 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.760 Those cars cannot be told the electric because they're all electric. Girl, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.760 I could be in a car and he's driving itself, 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:57.280 and the car don't have a brain, and I get 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.520 through the end of a cliff and I need to 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:01.360 kind of go either left or right, but it don't 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.160 have a brain. It can't make a decision, and it 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:05.840 just filming Louise me off the cliff. I don't wanted 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:08.640 that like that. I was just driving it. Well, I 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:10.960 don't know the car was driving. I wasn't driving. I 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.480 was asleep and it got to a cliff and instead 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.679 of making a decision to go either left or right, 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:19.240 it went off the Uh no, I don't know. I'm 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.880 not not encourage you guys not to buy Teslas, but 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.959 not for me. I need to be alert, I need 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.080 to be aware. Yeah, I saw that too, because I 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:30.720 think he offered somewhere around, like I think to share 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.280 the amount of like forty three billion dollars. I don't 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:35.920 see Jack Dorsey's just giving up Twitter like that, So 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.839 we'll see. And the words of Dave Chappelle, Twitter is 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.160 not a real place, but Twitter causes a lot of 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.400 real problems. That's the truth. It causes a lot of 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.640 real problems. Yeah, it does, it really really really does. 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:53.840 So yeah it's crazy. Okay, lord media, Oh no, go ahead, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.120 I'm listening to you. No, I'm just saying speaking of 0:10:56.160 --> 0:10:59.880 social media. Um, a fellow member of the trans community 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:05.240 that you know, correct, Sean Brooks. I've never I don't 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:07.760 think I've ever met her personally, but I know of her. 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.480 I know who she is and what she is. But 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.800 she outed ben Zeno, who was I know him for 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.880 being uh that artist's father, Coyle Array Um for you know, 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.160 having a relationship. And as a woman, Lord, please let 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.199 me ask your opinion before I give you mine, as 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:28.960 a biological woman, how do you feel about that? I 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:31.720 don't think that she should have done that. Um. I 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.160 think that she's wrong for that because my thing is this, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.280 like keep your business private, especially if you have that 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.520 type of celebrity. It's just messy and it looks like 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.160 you're you're trying to get a moment or chasing cloud. 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:44.760 I don't think that it's a good thing to do. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.800 And ultimately, you're putting yourself in a dangerous situation. And 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.600 and and I'm with you, what what what were you 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:54.280 what were you expecting to profit from this besides your 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.480 name being in the blogs, because ain't no open checking 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.920 for you to interview about that, Ain't no Gail can 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.120 interviewing you, checking for you to interview. Please tell me 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:06.000 what was the endgame of you outing this man? Because 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:09.920 here's the thing that I've talked about personally many times. Tricking. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.320 I'm tricked before. I'm very honest about that. But you 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.080 cannot catch feelings for a trick. This man has a 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:19.760 whole wife, a whole career, a whole life and now, yes, 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:23.319 and he had a girlfriend. I don't know if he's mayor, 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:25.480 but he had a girlfriend. He was on TV and whatever. 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.000 But what what did you get expect a profit by 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.480 outing this man talking about you tired of Her statement 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.400 was that she's tired of me and using us as 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.800 just like loving you in the dark but not in 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.080 publican yes, And I said this in my own the 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.200 breakfast club the very first time. And you if you 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.400 found as a trans woman, if you found a man 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.079 that it is so comfortable who he is, that will 0:12:48.120 --> 0:12:50.559 take you to the family barbecue, hold your hand and 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:53.040 keeps you in the mouth, and then you are one 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:55.200 of the lucky ones, because if he's doing that with you, 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.080 he's probably doing it with four other queens. That's just 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.679 how they are. And let me please make it, make 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.920 it very clear. And I'm not knocking her for her 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.880 hustle or what she does, but what she has done 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:08.120 by outing this man because his story was not her 0:13:08.120 --> 0:13:10.560 story to tell, just like Lorden's life story is not 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:12.560 my story to tell. My story is not her story 0:13:12.600 --> 0:13:16.440 to tell. You're responsible for telling your own story. The 0:13:16.480 --> 0:13:19.000 training itch that men have, and that's what I call it, 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:21.360 because they have a desire to be with a trans woman, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.920 They're gonna always have that itch, and it's going to 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.640 go on until they scratch it. The fear now is 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:30.360 that I'm going to scratch this itch. But in order 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.400 for me not this, this story not to be told, 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.920 I would rather kill you so that I don't have 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:36.960 to never worry about you coming back out against me. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:39.320 Do you understand what I mean. It has put us 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.960 in such a precarious position to say that now the 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.640 next girl is not safe because men who deal with 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.439 trainings and who want to deal with will not stop. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.160 It's going to That itch is constant until they scratch it. 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:54.679 The fear is now that so you won't out me, 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.760 you won't rule my life, rule my career. I'm going 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.160 to murder this queen because and nobody would never hear 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.280 the story. I'd rather take my chances on being called 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:05.760 for murdered than I would somebody saying that I had 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:08.360 a relationship with a trans woman. That's how fucked up 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.480 it is. That is how fucked up, because that's walking 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.360 backwards to me. I don't understand what was your purpose 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:16.719 of outing this man? No matter what, if y'all had 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.480 a relationship and it was business me and transaction, he 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:21.360 was giving you money, he was giving him a service. 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.880 It should have said that that you cannot catch feelings 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.600 for a trick because at the end of the day, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:29.440 he was a trick. Well, let me ask this, though, 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.240 do we know that for sure that he was a 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.520 trick that we we don't know what their conversation is, 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:36.600 like a lot of the conversations a public But that's 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.760 what I'm saying. This is kind of like a double 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:40.960 edged sword for me because if this was a situation 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.320 where it was a man he had a girlfriend, but 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.960 you know he had a side piece, right, and she 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:50.080 outed him. We wouldn't be having the same conversation because 0:14:50.080 --> 0:14:51.720 she was a female, right, because she was a feemale, 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.840 we wouldn't be having the same conversation. So the double 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.960 edged sword to me is it's not fair because we 0:14:57.960 --> 0:15:01.040 don't know what Benzino was saying to Sewn behind closed doors, 0:15:01.080 --> 0:15:03.280 if they had a relationship, because he said they didn't, 0:15:03.480 --> 0:15:06.120 But we don't know what those conversations were, and maybe 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:08.240 he was saying all the things that she wanted to hear, 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:09.880 and it led to they were going to be this 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:15.360 out couple and then someone left, and now she's explosing him. 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.960 Well with with with what I know about ben Zino 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.400 and what I've been researching about ben Zino, he was 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.320 never going to publicly say that he was in a 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:24.840 relationship with a trans woman. That is just not that. 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:26.480 That would be like Boosey saying he was in an 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:29.360 open relationship with a trans woman. It's no, it's not. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:32.400 It wasn't like that. Um. I don't know if they 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:36.760 had that disagreement or something when disgruntled or somebody caught feelings, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.720 but whatever the case may be, it puts other trans 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.120 girls that and other men that want to have relationships 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.640 on the load with trans women on blast, it's scary, 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:49.120 it is, and it is scary because you don't know. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.560 And now I get a lot of inboxes from straight 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.360 men who tell me I'm a little too old for them. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.800 But they tell me flame, because I feel so comfortable 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.720 with the way you speak, I would like to talk 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.960 to you. Actually, how can meet the trans girl and 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:04.520 trust her? And woo woo, so they could come to me? 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.560 But they that's because they know I'm not going to 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:08.560 out them. I'm not going to share their stories. That 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:10.880 is that, that is their feelings. But this is a 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.920 dangerous game. And then he has went on a rant 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.920 back and forth. He made a new rap song about it. Yeah, 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.520 and he I'm like, you do because you're making yourself 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.280 look more guilty. And I think he's got some other 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.160 issues too, because he keeps publicly like trying to embarrass 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.040 his daughter and like saying things about his daughter like 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.280 something wrong with that? Man. I'm sorry, Well, that's that's 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:36.080 any man at fifty, Because fifty couldn't wait to jump 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:40.920 on top of fifty cent jump right on that. It is, 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.720 y'all know, fifty is pettier than the pettiest person in 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:46.560 the world. Okay, he is the pettiest when it comes 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:48.520 to that, But is that why he's not a whole dollar? 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.160 Is that why the only fifty cent? But he's worth 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:54.600 plenty of dollars. But I'm just saying that's the name. Yeah, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.440 But I don't know. I feel like Benzino may have 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.080 some type of internal demons that he's dealing with, because 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:03.880 you can't disrespect your daughter publicly several occasions, you know, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.159 put her, put her whole record that she had with 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.400 Nicki Minaj and Jeopardy, and now you got this whole scandal. 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:12.080 But something right with him. It's just not sitting right. 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:13.560 Let me ask you a question that's a great point 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:15.119 that you brought up, Lorden. Do you think that he 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.800 could be because he's an artist and so it's his daughter, 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.520 do you think there could be a contingency of jealousy there? 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:24.040 I think he's very jealous of his daughter, because when 0:17:24.080 --> 0:17:27.000 you said, it made me what ben Zino song? Have 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.159 y'all ever played like turn that ben Zino song up? 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:34.000 I have never heard anybody say that. I'm old on 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:38.560 listen to rap, but he's of your generation at fifty 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.720 three year rapus. But that's what I'm saying, Like his 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.119 music is of his generation. It's no he was around 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:47.399 when like NAS was out, and like even him and 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.040 Stevie J were type once upon a time, and say 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:51.920 what you want BOUTEVJ. That man got hits in his 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:59.040 talented Look how tight is the question hip? That's my rap. 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.920 I'm just saying in general, like he's of your generation. 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:06.119 And so I think now that his daughter is getting 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:10.040 all this notoriety in the music space, he's very jealous 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:13.160 of her. That is terrible, jealous of your own kid. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.680 But it's it's giving that by the way, he continuously, 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.920 like publicly tries to embarrass her. It's very ugly though, 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:21.320 the way it's all unfolding. And when I watched him, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.080 he was on an interview Friday before I went to Vegas. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.919 I was on Thursday night. I was watching with some 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:28.439 guy I think he's a comedian, and he was talking 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.160 to him and he just let Benzino take the floor. 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.080 And if I never heard the adage of if you 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:36.320 give a nig enough rope, he gonna hang itself. When 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.320 I tell you, I wanted him to be like, dude, 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:42.280 don't talk about it because you are giving way more 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.600 information than they even asks. Sometimes you just let people 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:48.200 go and they're gonna tell her themselves. I don't agree 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.680 with Shauna Brooks outing him though, I still don't agree 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.600 with that. I think that that is just like with 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:55.960 the situation with Eddie Murphy. You know that girl, that 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.720 young lady ended up murdered behind that Oh I'm sorry. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:00.720 They said it was an accidental theft, that she fell 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.679 off the porch Eddie. I didn't say Eddie Murphy killed anyone. 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:07.600 I said that the girl that Eddie got caught with 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.600 the training years ago. And then the girl ended up 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.560 deed almost a date a year later to the actual 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:17.080 date of when they got caught, because she was talking 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:19.280 about writing a book and who woo, and all this 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:22.600 was was he picked up on Santa Monica Boulevard, and 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.480 he said that he thought she was a woman. She 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:26.800 was very passable. He thought that she was a woman. 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:30.160 But she was talking about writing the book and outing him, 0:19:30.440 --> 0:19:33.919 and she was looking for a pay day. She was 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.879 looking for a pay day, and she was on the 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:38.159 sixth floor in her apartment building and they found her 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:40.480 at the bottom of on the ground. Did they say 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.600 her face hit the concrete so hard that her makeup 0:19:42.640 --> 0:19:45.879 impression was stuck to the concrete. Oh my god. You 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.120 can research, you can google the story. That's all. It's 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:51.000 all in the truth. Now we on the comedy world, 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:53.160 we didn't heard some stories about who it was. They 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:56.080 say it wasn't Eddie, but it was somebody close to Eddie. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.120 I ain't gonna say no names. He's no longer here. 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.040 But I'm telling you right now, I don't want to, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:02.680 in the words of T. T J. And I don't 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:04.680 want to always keep my head on the swivel when 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:06.720