Speaker 1: If you watch Coffee Time, the baby you know the
Speaker 1: name Flame, my role also known as my Row Flame.
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Speaker 1: No do what you do? Can't no kiss? Do what
Speaker 1: I do? Welcome to laugh and learn with Flame, mon
Speaker 1: Row and Lauren Hogan and Kendo and we have a
Speaker 1: special guest today. Miss guy is running around here somewhere.
Speaker 1: That's Lauren's baby. We're glad you guys came to join us.
Speaker 1: I missed my lawd. She's back, y'all. We missed her
Speaker 1: last week. She was playing looking for No I know
Speaker 1: somebody changed the date of the recording and some of
Speaker 1: us having to the so you know, she couldn't just
Speaker 1: roll with me saying that she played hooky girl. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about a little. They talked so bad about my
Speaker 1: week last week. Oh my god. Oh they hated my hair.
Speaker 1: They hated I did. But it was a brand new week.
Speaker 1: I had got from Ny weeks from Cocoa, and so
Speaker 1: I was trying to make it look like Glean close
Speaker 1: and fatal attraction. But I made it look like her
Speaker 1: after Michael Douglas be the ass. It was after the fight,
Speaker 1: not before the fight. I was trying to go before
Speaker 1: the fight. I gave you. That's okay. That show was
Speaker 1: great Erica Alexander, thank you for our special guests last week.
Speaker 1: She was so phenomenal and so informative of giving us
Speaker 1: information about so many black and brown women missing this country.
Speaker 1: On this put a little makeup on, just a little
Speaker 1: changed because we're gonna talk about some things, and I
Speaker 1: can't talk about my trans community. And I looked like
Speaker 1: trains because you know the little hollow. You're not trans. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just the anomaly of trains. That's what I am.
Speaker 1: I am from the anomaly from of course, you know HBC.
Speaker 1: You know she always wanted to her HBC. You shipped
Speaker 1: up in the oh my god, why she couldn't been
Speaker 1: educated at a different college for the number one. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for joining us today for having learned.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna just that, we're all gonnadad
Speaker 1: right into we're gonna talk about what has happened. So
Speaker 1: this weekend, you guys were there with me when I
Speaker 1: went lave because I hadn't seen my mother in more
Speaker 1: than two and a half years. So I surprised Valerie.
Speaker 1: She surprised me because I walked to her house. She
Speaker 1: wasn't even there. She was down to damn how alway
Speaker 1: running her damn mouth. Now y'all know where I get
Speaker 1: it from. But we went to eat. I had a
Speaker 1: great visit with my mom. Um. I saw some old pictures.
Speaker 1: I showed you all picture of me and Jail. I
Speaker 1: showed it to launch. I haven't posted it yet. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna post it, um because I'm saving it for
Speaker 1: the book. Thank you. I shouldn't, he'll hope. So Um
Speaker 1: and I just had a great time. What I want
Speaker 1: to tell you, guys is that I actually had a
Speaker 1: chance to go to see the RuPaul's Dragway show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Cocomne Trees for the com ticket. When you see her
Speaker 1: on here, Laura, let me know because I'm gonna bring
Speaker 1: her own. And y'all known how I feel about RuPaul
Speaker 1: having an inclusion with having the trans girls on her
Speaker 1: actual TV show. But I was blown out the water
Speaker 1: at the production of it. And I'm telling you, Lorden,
Speaker 1: I owe you a big thanks to that because your
Speaker 1: show was the actual first. I mean, I've done pageants
Speaker 1: and stuff, but Josha was the first capacity of a
Speaker 1: professional show that I've done in that or and so
Speaker 1: I knew all the Inso that was because I was
Speaker 1: I was a soilid show. I was behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: It was put together very fabulous. It was. It was
Speaker 1: delighting the costumes, the dancers and everything that the personality
Speaker 1: of a cocoon. Mantrees hosted and she was great. Eureka
Speaker 1: was great. Uh the other I want to miss nobody's name.
Speaker 1: They only Smalls was her name that with the leg
Speaker 1: she was good. And the other girl Cahuna Monetrees. It
Speaker 1: was overall, it was a fucking great show. I encourage
Speaker 1: you guys, if you in Vegas to go to the
Speaker 1: Flaming Go and get your tickets to the root pauls
Speaker 1: very ratio. They inter trained the girl so it's not
Speaker 1: always the same girls or the same number, so it's
Speaker 1: a different show. But the show that I saw was fantastic,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, it was fucking fantastic. And if
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been, I what I said it and
Speaker 1: I saw Eureka Um. She hosted The gladd of Words,
Speaker 1: so she's very funny. H and Money is her last
Speaker 1: day today. It's her last day because she's going back
Speaker 1: off to tape her show that she does with HBO
Speaker 1: with Angela, so she's off today. But it was a
Speaker 1: phenomenal show and I thoroughly enjoyed it, and I can
Speaker 1: only encourage you guys to go and see it. I
Speaker 1: had a good visit in Vegas. Vegas had the best
Speaker 1: weather I've ever been since I ever been going down
Speaker 1: there to my family. It wasn't hot and it wasn't cold.
Speaker 1: It was seventy four, seventy six every day, great weather.
Speaker 1: But it was a lot of people. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Well everything's opening back. It was a
Speaker 1: lot of people and I was a spraying as nobody
Speaker 1: were wearing masks. Nobody was wearing masks and we were
Speaker 1: spraying and yeah, but overall had a great time. How
Speaker 1: was your week, Gloren, because we missed you last week?
Speaker 1: What girl, where was you in? Well? Actually did I travel? Yes,
Speaker 1: I was in Texas. So UM had a big event
Speaker 1: in Texas. UM but some you know, city council people
Speaker 1: and UM we partnered with this young group UM that
Speaker 1: actually makes movies but involves kids as a part of
Speaker 1: the program, which was really nice. So we had a
Speaker 1: really cute event to showcases film around gentrification that was
Speaker 1: in the oak Cliff area in Dallas, which was great.
Speaker 1: That is the area where the Trains Young Trains Girl
Speaker 1: got Cute a few years ago. Oak Cliffe that's the
Speaker 1: real good area, right, Yeah, but if they're gentrifying it though,
Speaker 1: because that's the really ghetto area in Dallas. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: we had a whole kind of like film premiere around it.
Speaker 1: It's a short, like twenty minute doc. It was really good.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so did that and then came back that
Speaker 1: Sunday and uh, yeah, I've actually got to be home
Speaker 1: for a week. So it's been nice. Well, we're glad
Speaker 1: to have you back to the look at let's got
Speaker 1: legs out today, y'all. Lower legs go for Lord's legs
Speaker 1: is about twelve feet long. For real. She could be
Speaker 1: a swimmer and swim with the women. That's another show, Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's just dive right into it. Let's start with
Speaker 1: Let's start light, and we're gonna start with the drawing.
Speaker 1: Let's start light. So this morning I was on live
Speaker 1: on Coffee Time and somebody sent me this clip of
Speaker 1: your president, not just your president, but mine because I
Speaker 1: voted for him too. And Joe Biden was saying a
Speaker 1: speech and at the end of the speech, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna let you all look at it. The question is
Speaker 1: whose hand is he shaking? Because what nobody there? Joe
Speaker 1: Biden had been in my love lounge, lovelies, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. Lord, Joe Biden had had a couple of
Speaker 1: these gummies. Joe, Oh my god, man, he's just he's old,
Speaker 1: you know, he's getting a little old. And and as
Speaker 1: much as I am laughing about that, he tried to
Speaker 1: shake an invisible person's hand because he is older and
Speaker 1: it could be seen out or what have you, I
Speaker 1: would still rather have voted for him than the other one.
Speaker 1: That's that's not an edited clip, right, that's real, that's real.
Speaker 1: I tried to find it out, all right, Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who was you talking to? Pemper? Somebody was on the
Speaker 1: other side of Joe and we couldn't see them. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm just asking for it's core. It's cool here,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't see. But it was what you
Speaker 1: think about that. I just think that he's you know,
Speaker 1: he has a lot on his mind. Um, Joe. I
Speaker 1: don't know, poor Joe got it together. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: Maybe he had a lot on his mind, you know,
Speaker 1: and he thought somebody was supposed to Maybe they rehearsed
Speaker 1: it one way and then it didn't happen that way.
Speaker 1: You know that happened sometimes I can I can see
Speaker 1: that happening. Yeah, maybe didn't match rehearsal when you turn
Speaker 1: like like like tweets say, but when I looked over
Speaker 1: to the left and what nobody there? You're still gonna
Speaker 1: put your hand now, I looked over to the left.
Speaker 1: Poor Joe, Poor Joe. But like you said, though, I
Speaker 1: still vote for him again over Trump, over Trump. Even
Speaker 1: in these elections, I may still be voting for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Thank you and thank you for going there. Lauren because
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Elon Musk trying to acquire Twitter.
Speaker 1: All of that to me is a smoke screen because
Speaker 1: he is in the top one percent. He's the richest
Speaker 1: man in the country. Right, No, he's not richer than Okay,
Speaker 1: but he gets the same tax break. So if they
Speaker 1: get Trump back in office, that means that his corporations
Speaker 1: has to pay zero to none of taxes. So that
Speaker 1: is why I believe he's trying to acquire Twitter so
Speaker 1: that he can put a Trump and Marjorie Trailer Taylor
Speaker 1: green Back on Twitter to completely divide the country. If
Speaker 1: we don't know Trump for nothing else, we know that
Speaker 1: Trump is great for his divisiveness, and we keep falling
Speaker 1: for the Oki doke, So pay attention to y'all. I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to acquire to not for them damn cars,
Speaker 1: because the cars is I don't want no Tesla. They
Speaker 1: ain't got no brain. Tesla's ain't got no brain. Though
Speaker 1: now he ain't gonna be broke, but they ain't got
Speaker 1: no brain because here's no decision. Because now did you
Speaker 1: see the man and said when the car cut off
Speaker 1: from here, he couldn't do nothing. He didn't know what
Speaker 1: to do with the car. You can't even tell those cars.
Speaker 1: Those cars cannot be told the electric because they're all electric. Girl,
Speaker 1: I could be in a car and he's driving itself,
Speaker 1: and the car don't have a brain, and I get
Speaker 1: through the end of a cliff and I need to
Speaker 1: kind of go either left or right, but it don't
Speaker 1: have a brain. It can't make a decision, and it
Speaker 1: just filming Louise me off the cliff. I don't wanted
Speaker 1: that like that. I was just driving it. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't know the car was driving. I wasn't driving. I
Speaker 1: was asleep and it got to a cliff and instead
Speaker 1: of making a decision to go either left or right,
Speaker 1: it went off the Uh no, I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not not encourage you guys not to buy Teslas, but
Speaker 1: not for me. I need to be alert, I need
Speaker 1: to be aware. Yeah, I saw that too, because I
Speaker 1: think he offered somewhere around, like I think to share
Speaker 1: the amount of like forty three billion dollars. I don't
Speaker 1: see Jack Dorsey's just giving up Twitter like that, So
Speaker 1: we'll see. And the words of Dave Chappelle, Twitter is
Speaker 1: not a real place, but Twitter causes a lot of
Speaker 1: real problems. That's the truth. It causes a lot of
Speaker 1: real problems. Yeah, it does, it really really really does.
Speaker 1: So yeah it's crazy. Okay, lord media, Oh no, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you. No, I'm just saying speaking of
Speaker 1: social media. Um, a fellow member of the trans community
Speaker 1: that you know, correct, Sean Brooks. I've never I don't
Speaker 1: think I've ever met her personally, but I know of her.
Speaker 1: I know who she is and what she is. But
Speaker 1: she outed ben Zeno, who was I know him for
Speaker 1: being uh that artist's father, Coyle Array Um for you know,
Speaker 1: having a relationship. And as a woman, Lord, please let
Speaker 1: me ask your opinion before I give you mine, as
Speaker 1: a biological woman, how do you feel about that? I
Speaker 1: don't think that she should have done that. Um. I
Speaker 1: think that she's wrong for that because my thing is this,
Speaker 1: like keep your business private, especially if you have that
Speaker 1: type of celebrity. It's just messy and it looks like
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to get a moment or chasing cloud.
Speaker 1: I don't think that it's a good thing to do.
Speaker 1: And ultimately, you're putting yourself in a dangerous situation. And
Speaker 1: and and I'm with you, what what what were you
Speaker 1: what were you expecting to profit from this besides your
Speaker 1: name being in the blogs, because ain't no open checking
Speaker 1: for you to interview about that, Ain't no Gail can
Speaker 1: interviewing you, checking for you to interview. Please tell me
Speaker 1: what was the endgame of you outing this man? Because
Speaker 1: here's the thing that I've talked about personally many times. Tricking.
Speaker 1: I'm tricked before. I'm very honest about that. But you
Speaker 1: cannot catch feelings for a trick. This man has a
Speaker 1: whole wife, a whole career, a whole life and now, yes,
Speaker 1: and he had a girlfriend. I don't know if he's mayor,
Speaker 1: but he had a girlfriend. He was on TV and whatever.
Speaker 1: But what what did you get expect a profit by
Speaker 1: outing this man talking about you tired of Her statement
Speaker 1: was that she's tired of me and using us as
Speaker 1: just like loving you in the dark but not in
Speaker 1: publican yes, And I said this in my own the
Speaker 1: breakfast club the very first time. And you if you
Speaker 1: found as a trans woman, if you found a man
Speaker 1: that it is so comfortable who he is, that will
Speaker 1: take you to the family barbecue, hold your hand and
Speaker 1: keeps you in the mouth, and then you are one
Speaker 1: of the lucky ones, because if he's doing that with you,
Speaker 1: he's probably doing it with four other queens. That's just
Speaker 1: how they are. And let me please make it, make
Speaker 1: it very clear. And I'm not knocking her for her
Speaker 1: hustle or what she does, but what she has done
Speaker 1: by outing this man because his story was not her
Speaker 1: story to tell, just like Lorden's life story is not
Speaker 1: my story to tell. My story is not her story
Speaker 1: to tell. You're responsible for telling your own story. The
Speaker 1: training itch that men have, and that's what I call it,
Speaker 1: because they have a desire to be with a trans woman,
Speaker 1: They're gonna always have that itch, and it's going to
Speaker 1: go on until they scratch it. The fear now is
Speaker 1: that I'm going to scratch this itch. But in order
Speaker 1: for me not this, this story not to be told,
Speaker 1: I would rather kill you so that I don't have
Speaker 1: to never worry about you coming back out against me.
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I mean. It has put us
Speaker 1: in such a precarious position to say that now the
Speaker 1: next girl is not safe because men who deal with
Speaker 1: trainings and who want to deal with will not stop.
Speaker 1: It's going to That itch is constant until they scratch it.
Speaker 1: The fear is now that so you won't out me,
Speaker 1: you won't rule my life, rule my career. I'm going
Speaker 1: to murder this queen because and nobody would never hear
Speaker 1: the story. I'd rather take my chances on being called
Speaker 1: for murdered than I would somebody saying that I had
Speaker 1: a relationship with a trans woman. That's how fucked up
Speaker 1: it is. That is how fucked up, because that's walking
Speaker 1: backwards to me. I don't understand what was your purpose
Speaker 1: of outing this man? No matter what, if y'all had
Speaker 1: a relationship and it was business me and transaction, he
Speaker 1: was giving you money, he was giving him a service.
Speaker 1: It should have said that that you cannot catch feelings
Speaker 1: for a trick because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: he was a trick. Well, let me ask this, though,
Speaker 1: do we know that for sure that he was a
Speaker 1: trick that we we don't know what their conversation is,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the conversations a public But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. This is kind of like a double
Speaker 1: edged sword for me because if this was a situation
Speaker 1: where it was a man he had a girlfriend, but
Speaker 1: you know he had a side piece, right, and she
Speaker 1: outed him. We wouldn't be having the same conversation because
Speaker 1: she was a female, right, because she was a feemale,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't be having the same conversation. So the double
Speaker 1: edged sword to me is it's not fair because we
Speaker 1: don't know what Benzino was saying to Sewn behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: if they had a relationship, because he said they didn't,
Speaker 1: But we don't know what those conversations were, and maybe
Speaker 1: he was saying all the things that she wanted to hear,
Speaker 1: and it led to they were going to be this
Speaker 1: out couple and then someone left, and now she's explosing him.
Speaker 1: Well with with with what I know about ben Zino
Speaker 1: and what I've been researching about ben Zino, he was
Speaker 1: never going to publicly say that he was in a
Speaker 1: relationship with a trans woman. That is just not that.
Speaker 1: That would be like Boosey saying he was in an
Speaker 1: open relationship with a trans woman. It's no, it's not.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. Um. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: had that disagreement or something when disgruntled or somebody caught feelings,
Speaker 1: but whatever the case may be, it puts other trans
Speaker 1: girls that and other men that want to have relationships
Speaker 1: on the load with trans women on blast, it's scary,
Speaker 1: it is, and it is scary because you don't know.
Speaker 1: And now I get a lot of inboxes from straight
Speaker 1: men who tell me I'm a little too old for them.
Speaker 1: But they tell me flame, because I feel so comfortable
Speaker 1: with the way you speak, I would like to talk
Speaker 1: to you. Actually, how can meet the trans girl and
Speaker 1: trust her? And woo woo, so they could come to me?
Speaker 1: But they that's because they know I'm not going to
Speaker 1: out them. I'm not going to share their stories. That
Speaker 1: is that, that is their feelings. But this is a
Speaker 1: dangerous game. And then he has went on a rant
Speaker 1: back and forth. He made a new rap song about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he I'm like, you do because you're making yourself
Speaker 1: look more guilty. And I think he's got some other
Speaker 1: issues too, because he keeps publicly like trying to embarrass
Speaker 1: his daughter and like saying things about his daughter like
Speaker 1: something wrong with that? Man. I'm sorry, Well, that's that's
Speaker 1: any man at fifty, Because fifty couldn't wait to jump
Speaker 1: on top of fifty cent jump right on that. It is,
Speaker 1: y'all know, fifty is pettier than the pettiest person in
Speaker 1: the world. Okay, he is the pettiest when it comes
Speaker 1: to that, But is that why he's not a whole dollar?
Speaker 1: Is that why the only fifty cent? But he's worth
Speaker 1: plenty of dollars. But I'm just saying that's the name. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I feel like Benzino may have
Speaker 1: some type of internal demons that he's dealing with, because
Speaker 1: you can't disrespect your daughter publicly several occasions, you know,
Speaker 1: put her, put her whole record that she had with
Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj and Jeopardy, and now you got this whole scandal.
Speaker 1: But something right with him. It's just not sitting right.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question that's a great point
Speaker 1: that you brought up, Lorden. Do you think that he
Speaker 1: could be because he's an artist and so it's his daughter,
Speaker 1: do you think there could be a contingency of jealousy there?
Speaker 1: I think he's very jealous of his daughter, because when
Speaker 1: you said, it made me what ben Zino song? Have
Speaker 1: y'all ever played like turn that ben Zino song up?
Speaker 1: I have never heard anybody say that. I'm old on
Speaker 1: listen to rap, but he's of your generation at fifty
Speaker 1: three year rapus. But that's what I'm saying, Like his
Speaker 1: music is of his generation. It's no he was around
Speaker 1: when like NAS was out, and like even him and
Speaker 1: Stevie J were type once upon a time, and say
Speaker 1: what you want BOUTEVJ. That man got hits in his
Speaker 1: talented Look how tight is the question hip? That's my rap.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying in general, like he's of your generation.
Speaker 1: And so I think now that his daughter is getting
Speaker 1: all this notoriety in the music space, he's very jealous
Speaker 1: of her. That is terrible, jealous of your own kid.
Speaker 1: But it's it's giving that by the way, he continuously,
Speaker 1: like publicly tries to embarrass her. It's very ugly though,
Speaker 1: the way it's all unfolding. And when I watched him,
Speaker 1: he was on an interview Friday before I went to Vegas.
Speaker 1: I was on Thursday night. I was watching with some
Speaker 1: guy I think he's a comedian, and he was talking
Speaker 1: to him and he just let Benzino take the floor.
Speaker 1: And if I never heard the adage of if you
Speaker 1: give a nig enough rope, he gonna hang itself. When
Speaker 1: I tell you, I wanted him to be like, dude,
Speaker 1: don't talk about it because you are giving way more
Speaker 1: information than they even asks. Sometimes you just let people
Speaker 1: go and they're gonna tell her themselves. I don't agree
Speaker 1: with Shauna Brooks outing him though, I still don't agree
Speaker 1: with that. I think that that is just like with
Speaker 1: the situation with Eddie Murphy. You know that girl, that
Speaker 1: young lady ended up murdered behind that Oh I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: They said it was an accidental theft, that she fell
Speaker 1: off the porch Eddie. I didn't say Eddie Murphy killed anyone.
Speaker 1: I said that the girl that Eddie got caught with
Speaker 1: the training years ago. And then the girl ended up
Speaker 1: deed almost a date a year later to the actual
Speaker 1: date of when they got caught, because she was talking
Speaker 1: about writing a book and who woo, and all this
Speaker 1: was was he picked up on Santa Monica Boulevard, and
Speaker 1: he said that he thought she was a woman. She
Speaker 1: was very passable. He thought that she was a woman.
Speaker 1: But she was talking about writing the book and outing him,
Speaker 1: and she was looking for a pay day. She was
Speaker 1: looking for a pay day, and she was on the
Speaker 1: sixth floor in her apartment building and they found her
Speaker 1: at the bottom of on the ground. Did they say
Speaker 1: her face hit the concrete so hard that her makeup
Speaker 1: impression was stuck to the concrete. Oh my god. You
Speaker 1: can research, you can google the story. That's all. It's
Speaker 1: all in the truth. Now we on the comedy world,
Speaker 1: we didn't heard some stories about who it was. They
Speaker 1: say it wasn't Eddie, but it was somebody close to Eddie.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say no names. He's no longer here.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you right now, I don't want to,
Speaker 1: in the words of T. T J. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to always keep my head on the swivel when
Speaker 1: I walk into comedy clubs, when I walk going on
Speaker 1: the street, because I have put somebody else's life in jeopardy,
Speaker 1: stole their livelihood. I'm not going to do that. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do that because they could kill my children,
Speaker 1: they could kill my dogs, they could kill me. It
Speaker 1: is it is a dangerous game. And since we own
Speaker 1: the LGBT, because the whole show about the LGBT today, Baby,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you all right now, y'all know that's the
Speaker 1: subject that I don't really like to talk about, but
Speaker 1: this a right here is just we got to talk
Speaker 1: about it. So in the news recently there was a
Speaker 1: story of a person who identified as a trans woman
Speaker 1: and went to jail and they put her I see,
Speaker 1: I'm being I'm being professional. They put her in a
Speaker 1: woman's penitentiary. She can clearly looked like Alfonso ver Biro
Speaker 1: the first season of Fresh Prince, but they still put
Speaker 1: her in jail with women. Now she has two women
Speaker 1: pregnant and counting and counting. Um. Yeah, I just gotta
Speaker 1: say that's wild because um and, like I said, another
Speaker 1: double edged sword situation, because if it were reversed and
Speaker 1: this individual said I'm trans identify as a woman and
Speaker 1: they stuck her in the male prison and something happened
Speaker 1: to her, the prison would be liable. Correct. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because now that's what's going to happen. Because the generation
Speaker 1: Z who love the Holler or hi identify as this,
Speaker 1: identify as that there are only two things that you
Speaker 1: can have as a sexual organ, a penis or a vagina.
Speaker 1: Come up with and whatever you want to come up with,
Speaker 1: you can identify as a gaddamn truck or airplane or
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hold on, let me finish the point.
Speaker 1: Then you can tell me up, you can only have
Speaker 1: a penis or a vagina. I don't. You could be
Speaker 1: the most possible trans woman. You could look be as
Speaker 1: beautiful as Lauren. And if you have a penis. This
Speaker 1: is because you shouldn't put a woman, a trans woman
Speaker 1: as beautiful or as possible as somebody looked like Lauren
Speaker 1: in prison with the me. And even though they have
Speaker 1: a penis, because they're going to get abused, they're gonna
Speaker 1: get used and disrespected, and especially if they are a temid,
Speaker 1: a timid person now a passible coin trans woman who
Speaker 1: goes to jail if she gets in trouble on her
Speaker 1: own or whether somebody accuses her or something. Even if
Speaker 1: she doesn't like to have sex with biological women, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna put her and a woman's penitentiary because of
Speaker 1: a story like this, because they feel like, okay, she
Speaker 1: just needed some affection. So you still have a pain.
Speaker 1: It's the pain is still get hard and you have
Speaker 1: sex with a woman. It is very scary on that capacity.
Speaker 1: And if you're a trans man and you look just
Speaker 1: like a man, you identify as a man, you got
Speaker 1: all the man, you had your top surgery done, but
Speaker 1: you still got your vagina. Imagine them putting that man
Speaker 1: in a mans penitentiary, you know, and you see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it is that that is what's messed up.
Speaker 1: That is what So what we got to do now
Speaker 1: create prisons or jail systems for trans people. I thought
Speaker 1: that wings up where they do have wings now? But
Speaker 1: how did how did New Jersey let this slip and
Speaker 1: let this do she clearly looks like a full on
Speaker 1: man go to prison with a bunch of women. Well
Speaker 1: what was the other options? Send them to the male
Speaker 1: prison and get abused and if something happened, she ends
Speaker 1: up dead. I went to the prison, okay, But flying
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying, they have to look at it
Speaker 1: from a liability standpoint. If they sent this person who
Speaker 1: identifies as a woman to the male jail wing whatever,
Speaker 1: and something happens to her, who's liable. They sent plenty
Speaker 1: of men that looked like me and to me and
Speaker 1: spenitentiary in their raped and their their disrespected, their abuse,
Speaker 1: they are it is then your is your strength and whatever,
Speaker 1: because if they want you, they can get to you
Speaker 1: depend on the capacity or the maximum security of minimum
Speaker 1: security of the prison. So they don't make a difference
Speaker 1: because they don't see that. Sometimes they just see a booty.
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds fucked up to say, but
Speaker 1: it's the truth. But I hear you, Lauren. But I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, Laur, imagine if I was a passive with training.
Speaker 1: I'm driving down the street. I gotta suspended life and
Speaker 1: they take me to jail and I'm like, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: not into two women or whatever, but you know I
Speaker 1: look like a girl. Please put me with the females.
Speaker 1: They said, no, you've got a penis, You're going with
Speaker 1: the men. The men just dogged me and used me
Speaker 1: so as opposed to that luck about herself, which they
Speaker 1: don't have nobody to watch you. But because you still
Speaker 1: have your penis, they're gonna put you with the me.
Speaker 1: That was a situation, and that's two women pregnant and counting.
Speaker 1: I I hear that. I just think that they should
Speaker 1: have had a separate wing for and they do in
Speaker 1: a lot of jails. But I'm just saying, like, and Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is what I want to talk to about
Speaker 1: because I want to play that annoying person today. You know,
Speaker 1: you said, like, you even have a penis and vagina,
Speaker 1: so what about those people that are born with not
Speaker 1: Because there are people that are born with not fully
Speaker 1: a penis or fully a vagina, And there are doctors
Speaker 1: that basically assign you at birth based on what your
Speaker 1: reproductive like organs look like. What about those people. I
Speaker 1: don't know about those people. I don't know none of them.
Speaker 1: Because if you especially if you got both, I know,
Speaker 1: but you're kind of useless because when you're boring it, it
Speaker 1: it ain't the whole thing is too too too big
Speaker 1: up a couchie, too smaller a penis. That's kind of useless.
Speaker 1: Only body want to look they're on a big old coach.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but yeah, no, I don't know about
Speaker 1: that one long I don't know about that. There's this
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying, there's like, there's complications to this scenario.
Speaker 1: My personal belief is that they should have an lgbt
Speaker 1: Q wing at these prisons, and maybe that would be
Speaker 1: a better situation because the simple fact that two of
Speaker 1: these women are now pregnant. We don't know if these
Speaker 1: women were raped or what the circumstances were, So I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it's a sticky situation. Or they should have
Speaker 1: never put that child in prison with the women. She
Speaker 1: didn't even she didn't even look like a woman. She
Speaker 1: looked I sent you the picture you did. But she
Speaker 1: identified as a trans famous and that's the problem right there.
Speaker 1: So now you could just say you I did so
Speaker 1: a straight at, a thug, a killer from the streets, hardcore,
Speaker 1: big old muscles and everything, say I identify as a female,
Speaker 1: and then they put her in jail with the females.
Speaker 1: Put him in jail. This is what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: This is where it gets muddy. Well, yeah, the LGBTQ
Speaker 1: community is a separate wing. And like I said, most
Speaker 1: persons have that. I know one of my co workers
Speaker 1: went to jail and he's gay when he was younger,
Speaker 1: and he said, there was literally a gay wing for them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they have that, but they didn't put this person
Speaker 1: in the gay wing. They put this person with the women.
Speaker 1: And this person has two women and counting pregnant. So
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is when I even when I was
Speaker 1: on the Brest Slip, when I said what I remember,
Speaker 1: I said, they put Jesse Smoley in the in the
Speaker 1: mental ward because the mental world you can't walk yourself to.
Speaker 1: You really have to be deemed. But like if I
Speaker 1: was in jail, So if I was in protective custody
Speaker 1: and say Kendall was a hard course, like damn, I
Speaker 1: want to get to her, he could just walk to
Speaker 1: the guard and say I feel I don't feel safe.
Speaker 1: I want to walk myself to protective custody. It's as
Speaker 1: easy as that. So he could get to protect and
Speaker 1: he would get to me. To get in ward, you
Speaker 1: have to be deemed kind of special sauce or they're
Speaker 1: gonna put you in there. But it's it's it's horrible
Speaker 1: because you don't get a blanket, it's cold. You know,
Speaker 1: they won't give you anything that you can kill yourself
Speaker 1: with or hurt yourself. So now that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So what they that New Jersey has opened up a floodgate,
Speaker 1: a plethora your word, a plethora of issues. Is that
Speaker 1: anybody can say I identify as anything now and get
Speaker 1: themselves to a place so that that's a smortgage board
Speaker 1: of pussy. I'm a hard core thug, I identify as
Speaker 1: a female. You put me I got all the coochie.
Speaker 1: I won't because you can put me in jail with
Speaker 1: the women. That is where it gets muddy in That
Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about. I don't mean like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want somebody to be safe, but y'all keep coming
Speaker 1: up with these terminologies and all these what you identify as.
Speaker 1: You can only be born with a stick or stone. Though.
Speaker 1: I put the the really feminine trans women by themselves,
Speaker 1: put the really masculine trans mean by themselves, everybody, just
Speaker 1: because if you're going to keep them safe, because y'all
Speaker 1: have made it that if you put the transman and yeah,
Speaker 1: with a bunch of men and he got a vagina,
Speaker 1: you know them me ain't gonna get a have their way.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get their life. If you put a trans woman,
Speaker 1: not all, but a lot of trans women still use
Speaker 1: their penis. If you put them in there with a
Speaker 1: smogage boy good vagina, especially the stuarts and lesbians and
Speaker 1: the hard core. I actually think that's a good plan
Speaker 1: to separate all of them. Well, that's the same thing
Speaker 1: as sports, Well is it at the same sports? Separate
Speaker 1: create created for sports. Well they're not doing that yet,
Speaker 1: so well, they ain't doing it for sports. They damn
Speaker 1: show ain't gonna do it for jail. Please be illegal.
Speaker 1: And we just talked about that Olympic swimmer you know
Speaker 1: who identifies as a trans woman and was what ranked
Speaker 1: five something in men and now is ranked number one
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a lot of testosterone in that body.
Speaker 1: So we might have to just catch up at the times. Well,
Speaker 1: good luck with that ship. You brought it up. I know,
Speaker 1: I mean good luck with us catching up. I told
Speaker 1: you in that episode we're walking back. We seem to
Speaker 1: be going backwards. And what the New Jersey has done
Speaker 1: for me is put set the LGBT, whether trans community
Speaker 1: back because now if I do go to jail, whether
Speaker 1: I'm waiting to be proved innocent or what have you,
Speaker 1: I'd rather be put by myself. It's gonna be for
Speaker 1: my safety. But y'all have shown that all I gotta
Speaker 1: do is say identify something. And you know, if you
Speaker 1: put me in the jail with an a prison with
Speaker 1: a bunch of women, I'm not as furred as I
Speaker 1: used to be. But maybe one out of three ship.
Speaker 1: Because but all trainees don't think like me, All trans
Speaker 1: women don't think like me. But how can you separate
Speaker 1: the ones that do? You don't know? You don't know,
Speaker 1: so then if you don't know, then how do you
Speaker 1: properly address the situation. Now I'm trying to put them
Speaker 1: back a self everybody has. But then that that requires
Speaker 1: more guards because somebody has to be able to watch
Speaker 1: the person that's by them. Said, I could be opening
Speaker 1: a whole other candrams because of the guards can be
Speaker 1: messing with trans women. Now, well, that could because guards
Speaker 1: have sex with themate. They do is no male and
Speaker 1: female guards have looking in back in Jersey again? Was
Speaker 1: that Jersey of New York where three women were pregnant
Speaker 1: by one guard at what at the same time he
Speaker 1: was fertile? Do you want to bring Yeah, please bring
Speaker 1: in some flame mess honey, because I had a great
Speaker 1: flame man today. Her name is Christy girladd is she
Speaker 1: on here? I can't see that? Uh yeah, uh huh
Speaker 1: because you know I can't see no name. Can you'll
Speaker 1: see us? I couldn't get five G either, because you
Speaker 1: know five G want to let you go? Um look, hi,
Speaker 1: Cassie cast Hello, where are you? I don't know? Bringing
Speaker 1: in goodnat some new people in tone. We're bringing in
Speaker 1: somebody new, cass We want you to break me. Oh
Speaker 1: it goes with the topic we're discussing, how right? Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess you' in here Okay, if you turn some
Speaker 1: light on, we can see you. Girl, turn some light on.
Speaker 1: All I see is hair in our brows. The brows
Speaker 1: look lovely. Though. Oh my gosh, I'm coming on here
Speaker 1: a second high, Cassie, Come on, Cassie, jump in. I
Speaker 1: want to jump in because I agree with what you
Speaker 1: said number one, when you say you either have a
Speaker 1: wave cave right, and I I agree that there should
Speaker 1: be a separate weight. We shouldn't have the cater like
Speaker 1: if you if you still you can identify as a
Speaker 1: trans woman but be attracted to women and still have
Speaker 1: your your parts that you was born with. And so
Speaker 1: look you, well it's still it's still a biological female.
Speaker 1: You're still so in that instance, of course you might.
Speaker 1: And then in the comments short and fancy Felicia was
Speaker 1: saying that that specific inmate was already housed with the men,
Speaker 1: sued and the A C. L. Sue that stand in
Speaker 1: New Jersey on his beak, and then he was housed
Speaker 1: with the women, and so he already hug was on
Speaker 1: both sides. And so I just feel like, if you,
Speaker 1: if you identify as a trans woman and you were
Speaker 1: able to get your what's called the s R s
Speaker 1: Then I say, great, you can go with the women
Speaker 1: that are all women women, But if you still have
Speaker 1: those parts and you're attracted to women, then you're gonna
Speaker 1: act on those well. And Cassie, I hear your point,
Speaker 1: but you might say I'm not attracted to women, will
Speaker 1: really still be attracted to women, So you can't go
Speaker 1: on there. If you got your junk they need. And
Speaker 1: you heard me stay on the brexat club. I would
Speaker 1: rather than put me with a wing of bitches that
Speaker 1: looked like me. Shoot me in my head. I would
Speaker 1: not want to stay with a bunch of trans women
Speaker 1: because I know that I know the mess I know
Speaker 1: the drama. Wait a minute, so you just saying to
Speaker 1: trans women, but it was me. If it was me,
Speaker 1: don't put me, put me with the fellas. Put me.
Speaker 1: I know how to handle myself. This mouth don't stop.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm just saying, lo, I would not
Speaker 1: want to be with a bunch of trans women because
Speaker 1: I know how messy it would be. I know how
Speaker 1: this ground, and I know bunch of trains women that
Speaker 1: look beautiful, presentation them bitches. Hygiene is terrible, okay, But
Speaker 1: playing devil's advocate, somebody else who looks like you could
Speaker 1: say the same thing, and you're gonna end up with
Speaker 1: the men and had the same problem. You can't have everybody.
Speaker 1: Don't have my DNA and my mouthpiece. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's very true. But I'm just saying if if somebody
Speaker 1: else came behind you and staid the exact same thing,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have the exact same problem. Or then they
Speaker 1: put up put all the bitches together, so that meaning
Speaker 1: you've been not getting no trouble, you're gonna be with
Speaker 1: a bunch of queens. Good god having Veronica. I like
Speaker 1: what you said, though, if you still have your parts,
Speaker 1: you need to be with the people that have the
Speaker 1: same parts. Period. Yeah, yeah, yeah, come on time in Veronica, Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, the thing with the prison that is like,
Speaker 1: that's that's a that's a whole kind of words. But
Speaker 1: like you said, when you compared to actual sports, now
Speaker 1: sports for sure, I just like look separate, like if
Speaker 1: you were born or whatever he said, you're assigned. That's
Speaker 1: where you need to be because I don't see a
Speaker 1: bunch of trams women trying to be in the sports
Speaker 1: with men. There's a reason for that. Because they know
Speaker 1: they're gonna get their asked to up right, So it's like, okay, um,
Speaker 1: I mean transparan, excuse me, try to be with the men.
Speaker 1: So it's like okay, now it's there's like tramp. There's
Speaker 1: men who are not doing well in the Olympics and
Speaker 1: they won't go over to the women's sports. That's what
Speaker 1: I saw with that whole swim me just after what
Speaker 1: two years are just like okay, yeah, one year she
Speaker 1: was on one year, one year, one year, and I'm
Speaker 1: just like, are we really doing this? And as a
Speaker 1: trans person, and as a transperson who took promos for
Speaker 1: many years, honestly, the breakdown should be a minimum of
Speaker 1: ten years, honestly because realistically that's how long it takes
Speaker 1: for esrogen to break down so much test topks a
Speaker 1: on in the mail body. It takes about seven to
Speaker 1: ten years for you to feel the effects of honestly,
Speaker 1: with the horn, with the hips and the boobs and
Speaker 1: the skin and the weakness break a muscle mass down,
Speaker 1: it takes about seven to ten years, depending on how
Speaker 1: dedicated you are to your hormone therapy. One year you're
Speaker 1: still the same ignorant tank that you was a year before.
Speaker 1: You are still but not in it, but you're still
Speaker 1: a tank that you was. You still that same player.
Speaker 1: And I'm saying that because I've taken hormones for many
Speaker 1: of me. You ain't taking hormones and years, But when
Speaker 1: I was young, I took hormones for years. It took
Speaker 1: years and years and years to break down the muscle mass,
Speaker 1: to feminize my shoulders and to make my skin glow
Speaker 1: and make me not as strong as the next. Uh man,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I get what that where they're at with that,
Speaker 1: but one year was definitely not enough time. One year,
Speaker 1: I'm still the strongest, can do it here, full on man.
Speaker 1: One year was nothing. It don't even have an effect
Speaker 1: on you. So that that's interesting to Um, that's a
Speaker 1: good that's a good point because I didn't know it
Speaker 1: took that long, um, and the effects that And also
Speaker 1: how's that cannot translate to putting someone in jail or
Speaker 1: in prison? You know, like, how do you how does that?
Speaker 1: How do you separate that? Because it's like you can't
Speaker 1: you can't go Cassie, if you still have your parts,
Speaker 1: you go with the people to have the same parts
Speaker 1: where you are, whether you identify if you still have
Speaker 1: these parts, I'm sorry. You got to be with the
Speaker 1: saying and it's bad or it can't be bad because
Speaker 1: of the dynamics of what's going on in the prison.
Speaker 1: But either gonna be go I don't know, go all
Speaker 1: the way or go halfway. You're gonna be with the same. Well,
Speaker 1: what's so crazy about that, now, Cassie. Because I went
Speaker 1: to prison back in they didn't have the separation wings
Speaker 1: because it was not a lot of trains people in
Speaker 1: jail at that time, not where I was at in Illinois.
Speaker 1: But after that, maybe five or six years after that,
Speaker 1: so many trains girls started going to jail for whatever
Speaker 1: they were doing, and they created whole wings of trains
Speaker 1: and gaze altogether. They would put them all together. But
Speaker 1: the easy the part was all you had to say
Speaker 1: as a man, was I feel threatened. I want to
Speaker 1: be put in the protective custody because that's what they
Speaker 1: call the gay wing PC, protective custody. And you could
Speaker 1: just walk yourself over there. So you can have a
Speaker 1: smortgage board of trainees, you can have a smortgage board.
Speaker 1: Gave me what is for them to stop them now
Speaker 1: from saying I look like Mike Tyson. I'm hard core.
Speaker 1: I'm a thug, but I feel gay and I want
Speaker 1: to be put in the gay wing. And then you
Speaker 1: just over there and you can bust heads and do
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna do, because, let me tell you the
Speaker 1: truth of it is, when you're in the gay wing
Speaker 1: or in the in the trans wing, the gods don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about you, and they will let anything
Speaker 1: and everything happened to you because they don't they don't
Speaker 1: agree with your lifestyle. See, they need to get guards.
Speaker 1: Then the here goes a whole another issue. You have
Speaker 1: to get gods that are LGBT friendly, lgbt Q friendly,
Speaker 1: because they'll say, yeah, we're gonna put you over there.
Speaker 1: I want you to get that when I don't like
Speaker 1: that one. And queens are known to have smart mouths.
Speaker 1: We talk ship to everybody. But then you get these
Speaker 1: guys over there, so I want you to bust that
Speaker 1: bitch here. I want her to disappear. You don't understand
Speaker 1: some of these guys are very low down. They need
Speaker 1: to really separate it because it's fucked up. This situation.
Speaker 1: It's way more scary than we I'm joking about it,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna cause a lot of detriment to the
Speaker 1: younger people that's coming up behind us that may get
Speaker 1: in jail trouble and go to jail. It's sucked up.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like like when they do the
Speaker 1: hiring process, it's like almost you specialized in securing this
Speaker 1: demographic of people. That's what You're right, That's right. What
Speaker 1: we were saying about the police were about refunding, or
Speaker 1: not defunding, but reforming. The police. Put people in communities
Speaker 1: that they are used to, so they're gay guards, they're LGBT.
Speaker 1: Put them over there so at least they can communicate
Speaker 1: and they will understand, you know what I mean. Don't
Speaker 1: they have like psych evaluation zo when people come in
Speaker 1: like as a part of your girl. But if you
Speaker 1: if you're my auntie and I need a job, and
Speaker 1: you can say I want my my needs to work here,
Speaker 1: on my nephew to work here, it's as easy as
Speaker 1: that get me in. Yeah. I get that part. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like on the flip side, just like there's
Speaker 1: a psych ward. Don't they have psycho vales when people
Speaker 1: come in and if they say that I identify as
Speaker 1: trends I thought that like psychle vals happened to confine
Speaker 1: them for your place. Yes, some prisons do. But you
Speaker 1: can beat the tests. You can beat that tests. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like it's kind of like the truth telling
Speaker 1: tests what they call it. Like, you can beat that test.
Speaker 1: You can say you can be oh, you can say, oh,
Speaker 1: identify as lesbian, and they put you with with the
Speaker 1: with the women, I mean with the you know, with
Speaker 1: the lesbian women. It's whatever you want to say, because
Speaker 1: that's what we have made it now. Generation See, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a truck, but I identify as a bus.
Speaker 1: You know what. It's just fucking ridiculous to me have
Speaker 1: a track record. Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what have I been living as for the last
Speaker 1: three or four years? But who's gonna prove that? And
Speaker 1: when you're arrested, nobody has time for you to prove that.
Speaker 1: Nobody's gonna research that. If you're arrested, they're gonna just
Speaker 1: arrest you. And when they take your clothes off, because
Speaker 1: everyone must be strip search, they're gonna see exactly what
Speaker 1: you have between your legs. It's up to it's most
Speaker 1: of the time, it's up to their discretion, and if
Speaker 1: you ruled and disgrunted, they're going to make sure that
Speaker 1: you are put with whatever you have between your legs.
Speaker 1: I don't can't how beautiful you are, you can be
Speaker 1: a beautiful YouTube ladies, they're gonna still and you have penises,
Speaker 1: They're gonna put you with the men because it depends
Speaker 1: on what kind of day that officer, the arresting officer,
Speaker 1: or whoever is in lock up is having. They I
Speaker 1: don't like trains, I don't like gays, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: put you with me. I'm telling you, they should have
Speaker 1: never done that in New Jersey. I found so much
Speaker 1: fault in that because it's sucked up. So now the
Speaker 1: wings situation, I'm sorry, no, oh, like the whole wings.
Speaker 1: This is where the wing situation is vital because they
Speaker 1: do phones in that category. This is where I know
Speaker 1: you said it depends on the officer and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be crooked people no matter what. But when you said
Speaker 1: they have wings, now, so it's like someone who can't
Speaker 1: have time to prove that they've been doing this for
Speaker 1: years or whatever. They still have their their their penis,
Speaker 1: for example, will they still be able to go into
Speaker 1: the wings if they requested, that's my question. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like the train, will they still be able to go
Speaker 1: with the men or with all the gays? Now the
Speaker 1: wing is it for trans engages everybody in lgbt Q. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all. Yeah, they don't separate the lgbt If you
Speaker 1: probably up under that umbrella, then you all except that's
Speaker 1: your last being because you're still a woman, so they
Speaker 1: put your last beings with the women. Okay, so let's
Speaker 1: say I they don't know my history. Um, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: trans woman, right, but I still I haven't had the operations.
Speaker 1: Okay that and I'm just like, okay, I will not
Speaker 1: be good in this area. You know, I've been doing
Speaker 1: it for two years at this point, I'm still kind
Speaker 1: of strong, kind of the gray area. I'll just request
Speaker 1: to be put over in that wing. And you said
Speaker 1: there's still a flaw in that. Let's say people can
Speaker 1: still take advantage of that, but we still kind of
Speaker 1: need the wing at the same time. Now, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying do away with the wing.
Speaker 1: I'm saying do away with how easily it is for
Speaker 1: people to get to on the wing. If you if
Speaker 1: you're not clearly gay or or identify as clearly as trans.
Speaker 1: Because this guy, so, this girl that they had in
Speaker 1: New Jersey did not like a trans woman. I know
Speaker 1: trans women, I know the good ones, the bad ones,
Speaker 1: the ones that don't look possible. This thing looked like
Speaker 1: full long Alfonso Robero with some asshot on to something
Speaker 1: he identified as trans. They put him in jail with
Speaker 1: the women and that two women pregnant or you were
Speaker 1: saying taking a step further and actually just have a
Speaker 1: trans wing for trans meant and trans women, yes, or
Speaker 1: have a wing for that. But that costs more money. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: the prisons get enough money so they could probably do it.
Speaker 1: But that's money day slavery too. So they said they
Speaker 1: have the money, but do they want to invest the
Speaker 1: money in that. Those are the state prisons that are closed.
Speaker 1: The private prisons the investor day never closed, and they
Speaker 1: make so much money a day, it's ridiculous. They have
Speaker 1: like wings if they could. So, yeah, because the privatized prison,
Speaker 1: that's that's what has happened to the prison system. It's
Speaker 1: already sucked up to being prisoned, but the privatization of prisons,
Speaker 1: these people and all the people who you think of.
Speaker 1: So many big wigs in in government have so much
Speaker 1: money invested in privacy prisons, and I'm making money ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You know who taught me that this happen right here?
Speaker 1: And honestly, privatized prisons are actually more I would say,
Speaker 1: there's more of them than you know, like the state
Speaker 1: and local prisons. There's more privatized prisons popping up every day.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a Luca, it's not. It's modernay slavery,
Speaker 1: That's what it is. So every time there's a body
Speaker 1: in a bed, somebody's getting paycheck. So but the but
Speaker 1: the greatness the gray area to me is, yeah, we
Speaker 1: all know we got a penis of a giant, even
Speaker 1: with Lawrence point you're born and sometimes their doctors don't know.
Speaker 1: But what's messed up is that they are some very
Speaker 1: passable trans women and transmen in the world that looked
Speaker 1: like me and and that looked like fucking women that
Speaker 1: you would never know. Can we talk about that though,
Speaker 1: really quickly, because a lot of them are beautiful. Ashley
Speaker 1: is and it is the guy girl, but so could
Speaker 1: you imagine them putting late asty in a man's penitentiary
Speaker 1: and somebody see that agina. Good God, the prison would
Speaker 1: be they would kick him out, just like they kicked
Speaker 1: me out, because the prison would be in an uproar.
Speaker 1: It would be. He looks completely like a man, a fine,
Speaker 1: good looking at a Latino man. But you got a vagina,
Speaker 1: you shower with everybody If they see that couchy, oh honey,
Speaker 1: all bets off. So what I'm saying is that you
Speaker 1: can't just keep saying that or I identified this, so
Speaker 1: I feel like this is so this is where you
Speaker 1: put me. I'm with you can see. I don't give
Speaker 1: a funk compauty for you all. If you got this,
Speaker 1: you go on with the man, even if it's a
Speaker 1: separate wing. But you're still going to a man's part
Speaker 1: of the prison. If you got a flat, you're going
Speaker 1: with the women. I don't care if you look like
Speaker 1: the biggest butch Michael Jordan with a vagina, you still
Speaker 1: go on with the women because you biologically a woman.
Speaker 1: Just because you talk about flats and drugs, chick. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's always making jokes over here, y'all. Sorry, she's talking
Speaker 1: about you. Sorry, Sorry, go ahead. I was just saying,
Speaker 1: there's there's really little no room for pceness in prison.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. So we're just talking about the
Speaker 1: safety um like saying that's that the notes and nothing
Speaker 1: boltes of it, like safety have a specialized wing. Still
Speaker 1: keep the wing, but in the men's presence instead of
Speaker 1: women's prison. Because you said these things could happened, like
Speaker 1: people could say whatever, do whatever. Oh hear me when
Speaker 1: I tell you the women the women in prison. Oh
Speaker 1: don't please, don't get that twisted. I was I went
Speaker 1: women's prison or jail. You went on scared straight girl.
Speaker 1: It was like a scared stray. I had had stole
Speaker 1: something from you know, child time in the last time
Speaker 1: I've ever been arrested or detained whatever one call it.
Speaker 1: And part of the program. Since I was the eighteen,
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, you go to this program and we'll
Speaker 1: you know, seal your record. I'm like, okay, cool. So
Speaker 1: I get there. I have sold scrunches and support prins
Speaker 1: and some something small ship. I was with a group
Speaker 1: that girls that stole like a car. I'm like this
Speaker 1: a bit, but okay. So they took this to the
Speaker 1: women's prison and were walking through the hall like the
Speaker 1: quad or whatever. And you hear boom boom, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get your ass. Which you getting this morningfucker. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm hearing things. But I'm just like, I don't think
Speaker 1: they're happy we're here. So we a line of us
Speaker 1: girls then lined up against the wall, and then like
Speaker 1: they just bring in the prisoners and they they brought
Speaker 1: as hell. I'm just like, oh, like ones like twice
Speaker 1: my size. I'm just like, man, I would get my
Speaker 1: ass whooped up in here. Maybe I don't know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's um. It was. But imagine somebody seventeen years old
Speaker 1: had never been in any kind of trouble and going
Speaker 1: to a situation like that. I'm glad it scared you straight.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I wish we had scared straight still around today.
Speaker 1: I don't know about this generation Z. They're crazy for real.
Speaker 1: I was a good TV show. Though there was a
Speaker 1: good TV show, it wouldn't have scared me straight. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't win and got in trouble just to be inj ship.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Here has said a precedent, though,
Speaker 1: So now anyone who's saying, well, I identified like this,
Speaker 1: this has said a precedent, because now you allow this
Speaker 1: person who identifies as a woman. But somebody calling you
Speaker 1: Cassie m hm, connection bad. Um. But I think that
Speaker 1: it's a good point that we need to basically catch
Speaker 1: up with the times, is what I would say. We
Speaker 1: need to catch up with the times because I want
Speaker 1: to ask you a question, because you've been watching and
Speaker 1: following the story. What do you think about ben Zino
Speaker 1: and the trans woman outing him? Oh? I haven't following
Speaker 1: the story. Um, well there's a trans out of ben Zino.
Speaker 1: I've seen these outing stories before. Um, now she was
Speaker 1: out of him. Did you say why? I want a
Speaker 1: little bit of a if they're just just out in him,
Speaker 1: just because well, she was tired of being on that
Speaker 1: relations whatever to up allegedly whatever relationship they had on
Speaker 1: the low. She said she was tired of that. She
Speaker 1: wanted it to be public. Oh okay, honestly that that
Speaker 1: that should have been behind close doors. I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of business or whatever, but at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if this is something where you're not getting
Speaker 1: what you want to relationship, just leave like this whole
Speaker 1: outing first, you're outing him out of him for what
Speaker 1: you identify as a woman. So why would now you
Speaker 1: want to jump over to outing somebody unless he's been hurting,
Speaker 1: transluting verbally or otherwise. That's the only thing I would say.
Speaker 1: You know, good carmer. But I love that. I love
Speaker 1: exactly what you just said, because I always say a
Speaker 1: trans woman is a trans woman, a trans man is
Speaker 1: a trans man, a woman is a woman, and a
Speaker 1: man is a man. But we wanted to be fair
Speaker 1: across the board. So I'm with you. How you outing
Speaker 1: me if I if I identify myself as a woman,
Speaker 1: I want to be called he she heart and hers
Speaker 1: um and and Shanna looks pretty much like a woman,
Speaker 1: you know. But so now, what are you what are
Speaker 1: you expecting to gain from this? What are you what
Speaker 1: are you getting from this? Huh oh, I'm sorry now
Speaker 1: I was being facetious, but yeah, it's like really nothing
Speaker 1: that because anyway, like hip hop or just even especially
Speaker 1: in the black community amongst men in general, you know,
Speaker 1: very homophobic, and he's in hip hop, so it's kind
Speaker 1: of like this will be the perfect place to feminize
Speaker 1: him or make up seem gay. That's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to do with the whole outing thing, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, okay, well, if you mess with
Speaker 1: a trans woman, you you just gay. But some I'm
Speaker 1: trying to hang on to, like the straight male privilege
Speaker 1: by you know, with the whole Oh, I'm just attracted
Speaker 1: to a certain type of woman. Like Okay, let's not
Speaker 1: repackage it. You don't have to call yourself gay, but
Speaker 1: your damn strange straight. I'm sorry, just like if I'm
Speaker 1: mena please say that again. Okay, Okay, we won't. You
Speaker 1: have to be called gay, but your damn sure ain't straight.
Speaker 1: Because they are already beautiful women in the world. I've
Speaker 1: talked about this many, many times, all that I'm beautiful women.
Speaker 1: She I fell in love with her soul, her spirit. Yeah, nigger,
Speaker 1: say that to somebody who ain't been with me, who
Speaker 1: know what they like. There are beautiful women yourself, Lauren Hogan,
Speaker 1: already created in the world, already for a package, vagina,
Speaker 1: baby having and everything. What you like, player is what
Speaker 1: you don't want nobody to know that you like. That's
Speaker 1: the problem I have. But on the flip side, just
Speaker 1: what you said, stop running around here, Holland you identify
Speaker 1: as a woman. I'm a woman. You can't tell me.
Speaker 1: I feel just like a woman being treat yourself like
Speaker 1: a woman, and don't try to put these men on
Speaker 1: black women that cheat and calling me as wise. When
Speaker 1: a woman dragged, I asked, you know, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: your wife and tell your wife that you've been sleeping
Speaker 1: with me. It's not as embarrassing as when they hear
Speaker 1: that you've been with a trans woman. Because that is
Speaker 1: what the trans community, to me, have done. It wasn't
Speaker 1: just straight people who did that. We did that because
Speaker 1: we made too much separation. Damnit, if I'm a trans
Speaker 1: woman and you attract the trans woman, then I'm falling
Speaker 1: up under that criteria. If you like women, then you
Speaker 1: like women. If you bisexual, then damnit you like both.
Speaker 1: That's fine too. You have to come to grips with it.
Speaker 1: We made the separation. We made this ship difficult alone
Speaker 1: from the LGBT community. I know they're gonna bite my
Speaker 1: head off of that, but we made it. We made
Speaker 1: this differ. We made this difficult because, like I said before,
Speaker 1: people will organically come to you and sometimes you just
Speaker 1: don't jail. I know how many straight people I know
Speaker 1: that don't like each other, same nationality, neighbor, same family,
Speaker 1: So I can't expect you who has never been introduced
Speaker 1: to me and my lifestyle, my presentation for you to
Speaker 1: just say, oh, come on there, you're my friend. Sometimes
Speaker 1: it takes time, sometimes it happens, and sometimes it doesn't.
Speaker 1: But I can't come in and say, oh, you're gonna
Speaker 1: see me because I'm trained, I'm LGBT, you're gonna respect me.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that. You don't have to force it.
Speaker 1: It has to be and everybody don't get down with it.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's a good thing or
Speaker 1: a bad thing, but I can't make you take in
Speaker 1: something that you don't want to. It would be like
Speaker 1: me dying have blind and she don't want to be blind.
Speaker 1: Oh I want you to be blind. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be blind. And that's the choice that you have.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. That's not saying that
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hurt you, or that I wish you ill
Speaker 1: harm or anything. It's just saying that that that's not
Speaker 1: my get down And I understand you over there, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay over here and we're gonna be cool. Okay.
Speaker 1: I think I kind of get what you're saying now.
Speaker 1: So you're basically saying that it's one Obviously that was
Speaker 1: nobody's business for Shawna to do. That's right front, But
Speaker 1: more so if Benzino wasn't comfortable with it, it's not
Speaker 1: okay to force something on somebody because it's not gonna land. Well, basically,
Speaker 1: your story is not my story. Yeah, I started out
Speaker 1: as a secret. And if you got tired of it,
Speaker 1: because I don't think he didn't, getn't start off public.
Speaker 1: So I think that was early on where this is
Speaker 1: gonna be on that. And and let me be very
Speaker 1: clear about who Shauna Brooks is. Shawna Brooks is an escort.
Speaker 1: Let me say that one more time. Shauna Brooks is
Speaker 1: an escort. So I'm sure and she's that's a heart word.
Speaker 1: She said this publicly many times before. She I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was a business transaction. Again, I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: to this Netflix two thousand nineteen with Flaming Row. You
Speaker 1: cannot catch feelings for a trick. You cannot catch feelings
Speaker 1: for a trick. That was a trick. I'm sure that
Speaker 1: was money transaction there. Because of her track record, she
Speaker 1: has publicly put out that she was an escort flying
Speaker 1: over to Uh, what's the country where I told you
Speaker 1: I wanted to go, but I can't go because I'm trans. Goodbye,
Speaker 1: and all that internal tricks and that she publicly put
Speaker 1: all that on her platform, all that was up, So
Speaker 1: I'm not telling y'all nothing publicly that she hasn't told
Speaker 1: y'all publicly, and she is possible. So she got through.
Speaker 1: But now you're tricking with somebody and maybe you kind
Speaker 1: of feelings for him, maybe you wanted him to be
Speaker 1: with you on your birthday, who has a whole family,
Speaker 1: a whole career, and who has put out his platform
Speaker 1: that he's not with the gay ship. He don't get
Speaker 1: down like that, but on the low he doing his thing.
Speaker 1: That was not your just that was not your position
Speaker 1: to tell his story, which is why when they keep
Speaker 1: talking about and this is really gonna get my head beat,
Speaker 1: y'all come on with it, because I'm ready to buy
Speaker 1: back today and I ain't even had edible when they
Speaker 1: keep holling so many trans women of color are being
Speaker 1: murdered a lot of times. You put your hand in
Speaker 1: the lion's mouth. Do you think that lion not gonna
Speaker 1: bite you? M What part did you play in your demands?
Speaker 1: One more time. What part did you play in your
Speaker 1: demise because you cannot out these men and don't think
Speaker 1: that this is gonna be consequences of repercussions. Didn't Murphy
Speaker 1: said that in life if you come up and with
Speaker 1: my corporators, gonna be consequences of repercussions. Some of you,
Speaker 1: bitch is better lead that Cordborat alone. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's even just in the trans community. That's issues
Speaker 1: with you know, individuals who are hetero sexual. Mean, we
Speaker 1: can even take it to looking at you know some
Speaker 1: of these crazy women that are fatal attraction. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, and that's with hetero sexual
Speaker 1: relationships too. It's it's on both sides. So I just
Speaker 1: don't agree with the outing because what it does for
Speaker 1: me is me and who are attracted to trans women.
Speaker 1: It's a natural um attraction. They keep it on the quiet,
Speaker 1: but they watched transforms secretly. They try to get up
Speaker 1: in trans girls inboxes secretly and quietly, hoping that you
Speaker 1: won't put them on blast, because that is an itch
Speaker 1: that needs to be scratched. The scary part now is
Speaker 1: that when I scratched this itch, so I know that
Speaker 1: you won't tell my story. I'm gonna kill you after
Speaker 1: we have sex. I really hope that doesn't become the case. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been in that reason I speaking about that because
Speaker 1: I've been in that situation. I'm not gonna say the
Speaker 1: name on here, but I was in a situation like
Speaker 1: that many many years ago, where there was a guy
Speaker 1: that used to trick with me, famous guy and would
Speaker 1: pay me for what he wanted, and um, after the fact,
Speaker 1: the guilt after he after he busted, after he relieved himselves,
Speaker 1: his guilt consumed him to where he wanted to hurt me,
Speaker 1: like physically when he experienced At one time, I was like,
Speaker 1: damn you tripping. But the second time it put me
Speaker 1: on high alert. So I brought my pistol with me,
Speaker 1: and when he went crazy and he would have hurt me,
Speaker 1: this time, I felt that when I put that pistol
Speaker 1: on his ass, he backed up. I've never seen that
Speaker 1: guy again, not privately, But this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So many of these guys hard for these demons because
Speaker 1: as black people, you know, as and I can't speak
Speaker 1: for no other community but the black community. In a
Speaker 1: black house, it is, it is easier for you to
Speaker 1: say you're fucking ax murder or a serial rapist. For
Speaker 1: then you to say you're gay, especially or trains, it
Speaker 1: is like the family cringes. It's it's I'm telling you
Speaker 1: she has opened up a can of worms that it's
Speaker 1: going to be dangerous. And I just like hearing all
Speaker 1: that and registering what you're saying. They're really there really
Speaker 1: needs to be because it's on the onness of the person.
Speaker 1: Nobody's making you a murderer, that's you making the decision,
Speaker 1: being triggered by your enter demons. And I think, as
Speaker 1: I used the term community loosely, but just as black people,
Speaker 1: ill just say that we do need to. Our part
Speaker 1: would be to foster an environment that doesn't keep protecting
Speaker 1: the family petals, but actually those men or those community,
Speaker 1: especially the youth, where it's okay, like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: what you're into. You can't you're not technically not straight
Speaker 1: man the more, but that's okay, you don't fall into
Speaker 1: that category because there are those who are trying to
Speaker 1: keep that's straight you know, privilege, so they won't be
Speaker 1: ostracized or putting this category. And that's they're just they're
Speaker 1: so scared of what the repercussions are if I were
Speaker 1: to admit I'm into this. So therefore I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: that's part of me that feels shamed because of what
Speaker 1: I've filtered in, you know, from around me. What it
Speaker 1: what it looks like. So and listen, and let's clarify.
Speaker 1: It's not all black households. I've got plenty of gay
Speaker 1: friends and their parents and family members love them to death,
Speaker 1: So it's not all black households. But I tear that
Speaker 1: point to to what you're saying. But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: in retrospect that when it comes to matters of the heart,
Speaker 1: they can turn into a fatal attraction situation very quickly.
Speaker 1: It can, Yeah, it can, as far as it can.
Speaker 1: That's true. It happens in different dynamics. I'm just talking
Speaker 1: specifically about black men who want to do you know,
Speaker 1: trans women on the low and feel shaky even just
Speaker 1: with themselves to a point where they will trigger violence
Speaker 1: because it already already happens to Black women domestically. We
Speaker 1: are homicides or what homogeneous racial group, and that's just
Speaker 1: took to women. We don't got the penis and we're
Speaker 1: getting killed at twice the rate, so talk about it.
Speaker 1: So we we ain't got the power to really help
Speaker 1: trans Limen that some some be are telling us to do.
Speaker 1: They're like, tell your husband to stop killing us, We'll
Speaker 1: tell them to stop killing us. And to that point,
Speaker 1: And I love what you just said right there because
Speaker 1: to that point and this translors, I love my trans sustors.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Just like the men have a
Speaker 1: choice on whether they want to go with you and
Speaker 1: do whatever they want to do with you, you have
Speaker 1: the option of saying I don't trust you, I'm not
Speaker 1: comfortable with you. But a lot of times because their
Speaker 1: celebrity or they fan, Oh this is a trade, because
Speaker 1: that's the word trade. It's a man will woo you
Speaker 1: go with them, thinking that you're gonna change their mind,
Speaker 1: you're gonna change their outlook. You forget that this man
Speaker 1: got a whole wife, the whole relationship, a whole career.
Speaker 1: He's willing to run risk that busting up with you.
Speaker 1: But he damn shall ain't willing to risk that to
Speaker 1: take you to the office party. He ain't gonna take
Speaker 1: you to the family barbecue. It's a rarity that that
Speaker 1: happens that's not to say that it does not happen,
Speaker 1: but it's so rare. I can't even think of the
Speaker 1: last thirty years that I know a queen who the
Speaker 1: family has accepted her as part of the family, his wife,
Speaker 1: his woman without somebody getting angry. So that, well, you
Speaker 1: still sucking around with that that thing that ain't no woman,
Speaker 1: that's the man. I'm telling you. It is fucked up
Speaker 1: on all capacities right now, Hi, Jan, keep your head
Speaker 1: on the swevel. They're busting heads right now. Slap I
Speaker 1: owe you will. Girl'll make me. She got a shotgun.
Speaker 1: I ain gonna slap crazy. My party position is just
Speaker 1: the real question. What were doing today? High tech? Jan?
Speaker 1: Hey mare? Oh my god? I mean you guys are
Speaker 1: cutting up to that love the subjects love you hear me.
Speaker 1: You know I'm a fruit fly anyway, so you come
Speaker 1: on fru fly me too. Me's like, I can't get
Speaker 1: enough for what you are talking about. Really, But you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm never I'm never for anybody outing anybody
Speaker 1: for anything. If you were with me and I stole
Speaker 1: something out of the store, don't out me. The whole
Speaker 1: connotation behind the word outing is not good. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to out myself for all the men that I've
Speaker 1: been with. I just so I don't know how we
Speaker 1: thought any of this or how Shana thought this was
Speaker 1: gonna be okay, because he made some promises. That ain't
Speaker 1: the first relationship you've been in to go sour, and
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the last thing. And you know
Speaker 1: a man will promise you the whole world to get
Speaker 1: to get to that sweet spot, and once he got
Speaker 1: what he needs, tell you dead roses. I think I
Speaker 1: came up with the theme for this careful who you
Speaker 1: do dirt with? Be careful? Who? Be careful? Who promised
Speaker 1: your rose garden? And get your ass a bunch of weeds?
Speaker 1: That's what you better. Because y'all women, y'all have vaginas.
Speaker 1: Y'all know a man would tell you anything to get
Speaker 1: to that honeypot. You know this, And the same thing
Speaker 1: with a transor, especially if your presentation it's feminine and female.
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell you what you want to hear you beautiful,
Speaker 1: you sexy. I want to be with you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get what I need, but then I'm going home to
Speaker 1: my wife. But I ain't gonna tell you that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you are we're gonna be in a relationship.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave huff for you. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: on this side as a trans woman. They tell you
Speaker 1: the same ship to get what they want. They want
Speaker 1: to get you'all coolchi they want to get out booty.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying ship or something or yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: what it is. What it does for me though. As
Speaker 1: for the young trans women are coming up, and a
Speaker 1: lot of trans women, myself included, starts out, especially if
Speaker 1: you come from a poorhouseholder, you don't come from any
Speaker 1: kind of meat ends. You don't know what else to do.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you start off in the sex industry. You start
Speaker 1: off where as the sex workers. Some people stay in
Speaker 1: and some people get out of it. But you're putting
Speaker 1: yourself in a position to where you want to hear
Speaker 1: whatever you want to hear. You want to get the
Speaker 1: money people are using you. They'll tell you anything to
Speaker 1: get what they need. We're the same as in some capacity,
Speaker 1: trans women are the same as women that work in
Speaker 1: the sex industry because they're gonna tell you whatever you
Speaker 1: need to hear to get what they want, and that's
Speaker 1: that's it. But all that I'm gonna tell your wife
Speaker 1: and all that ship because I watched Fatal Attraction just
Speaker 1: last week when he swims, I watched Fatal Attraction and
Speaker 1: for my Man every day. Oh, if y'all don't watch
Speaker 1: Fan of Attraction for my Man, watch it it comes
Speaker 1: on TV one. Are you talking about that one? I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the one with going close, way back with
Speaker 1: that one with the crazy white bitch that I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tear your wife and that scared me and so much
Speaker 1: and it um it made me a lot of me.
Speaker 1: I don't even say they stop cheating. They just got
Speaker 1: slicker with it. But it is a bunch of crazy
Speaker 1: people out here. And I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: Shawna Brooks is crazy, but here's I don't know, because
Speaker 1: I don't know the nature or the situation of their relationship.
Speaker 1: But damn it, some things that just not to be told.
Speaker 1: It's just not to be told. You. Yeah, if she
Speaker 1: wanted what she had grown accustomed to with him, believe me,
Speaker 1: it's over now well and and she's gonna scare the
Speaker 1: ship out the next one that made him wanted to
Speaker 1: be with her, because I mean, he gonna feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't funk with you. You're gonna put my business
Speaker 1: in the street. I agree with that. And honestly, if
Speaker 1: it was came down to that, and like I said,
Speaker 1: this was all allegedly, ben Zino is denying everything. But
Speaker 1: you know, if it was a conversation and he said no,
Speaker 1: for you to go and out, the man is just
Speaker 1: And fifty is having a field there with videos and
Speaker 1: oh my god, Pitty seems to be very obsessed with
Speaker 1: me who get caught with trans women. Let me just
Speaker 1: say that one more time. Fifty seems to be very
Speaker 1: obsessed with men who get in the rap game or
Speaker 1: in the hip hop game. Be careful, you know, next
Speaker 1: thing he gonna start making means about you. Fifty don't
Speaker 1: want this mouth. Fifty got more money than me, but
Speaker 1: fifty ain't got more tenacy than me. He just think
Speaker 1: he good. I say everything people can say it about him,
Speaker 1: But he seems to be obsessed with hip hop men
Speaker 1: who get caught with other trans women. He just you know,
Speaker 1: we say bing bings, oh bands or whatever. It's definitely
Speaker 1: you know, he has always turned me off, even when
Speaker 1: he was on Love in hip Hop. Oh he was, Yeah, Atlanta,
Speaker 1: he's last me off. But fifty is another one that's
Speaker 1: not wrapped too tight, you know what I mean? And and
Speaker 1: and and and it's it's room at the therapist for all.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, realize it and go, not
Speaker 1: you believing the therapist. Wait a minute, you know, it's
Speaker 1: room at the therapist office to take for all of
Speaker 1: them to go. You know what I mean? Because fifty
Speaker 1: read a woman you know, just for ships and grins,
Speaker 1: and he didn't do it. He didn't do that to
Speaker 1: Chelsea handle. Let me make that very clear. He tried,
Speaker 1: but he failed. He tried. No, he was all goshing
Speaker 1: over her. She right, because she said, pay your taxes.
Speaker 1: I'll pay your taxes. We're talking about your community. So
Speaker 1: you know, it is what it is. But you know,
Speaker 1: with the original subject, you know, you him on business
Speaker 1: telling nobody's secrets. Don't tell my business, you know what?
Speaker 1: Um uh. Some men I've been with and I've been
Speaker 1: most embarrassed about it before i even got out the door.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, you know, you know the door.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure there are celebrities and they are famous
Speaker 1: me and athletes whatever, they would love to have an
Speaker 1: open relationship with trans women. If that is there, get down.
Speaker 1: But because society has deemed that taboo, it's just not
Speaker 1: happening like that. It's just not happening. And that's not
Speaker 1: to say that it's not happening, but it's not happening
Speaker 1: like we want, like we would want it to happen.
Speaker 1: So with her whole statement that she put out, I'm
Speaker 1: tired of being on the back burning. I get that
Speaker 1: if the other person was wanted to be in a
Speaker 1: relationship like that openly, but he didn't and that was
Speaker 1: not your place to tell that story. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that is scary as hell. That's a catch twenty two.
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't believe Janny your words. Keep your head
Speaker 1: on the swivel. You better keep on head on one.
Speaker 1: They're from that world. And even though he's has been
Speaker 1: by far, uh I mean, but it sounded so cold
Speaker 1: damn that he probably he probably enjoys keeping or trying
Speaker 1: to keep one foot in the streets with a certain elements.
Speaker 1: So she'd better keep her head on the swivel. And
Speaker 1: that's by the reason why he's always fighting with his daughter,
Speaker 1: because it keeps him in you know, bro up the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because don't nobody know nothing about him. I mean, they
Speaker 1: just really don't, you know. I mean, and he's got
Speaker 1: the Napoleon complex too. He looked like he all of
Speaker 1: about five too, you know what I mean. He has
Speaker 1: no neck right like, like, so you want I want
Speaker 1: to say something so bad, but bad girl, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna say it. I am not gonna say it because oh,
Speaker 1: I just want to say. And he's with Shawna Brooks
Speaker 1: and she has not had an s R S. He
Speaker 1: ain't got no nick and he about five too. But
Speaker 1: I wonder what the skills is like, Okay, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what it all mean? I don't know. Usually when you
Speaker 1: come up sort you gotta make it up with other ways.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, oh, I've seen that, I've seen the
Speaker 1: pictures on the internet. I ain't even talk about his penis.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about his head game because he damned showing
Speaker 1: a coucci. Let me say that, because she ain't got one. Well,
Speaker 1: on that note, thank you, guys, We appreciate you us
Speaker 1: for coming on. Thank you, Thank you ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Live Love Lounge is going to be on July fourteenth,
Speaker 1: which is my actual birthday. At the DC Comedy Love.
Speaker 1: Get your tickets at the DC Comedy Loft website, which
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Speaker 1: Um July fourteen, fifteen six seen that I'm doing comedy shows.
Speaker 1: We're doing a Lave Love lounge, just my birthday. We
Speaker 1: don't have a good week, ly, aren't you doing something, mate,
Speaker 1: I'm doing something. I'm doing May second, I'm doing Netflix
Speaker 1: is a joke. I gotta tell you about that too.
Speaker 1: Netflix is a joke. But it's sold out. It's completely
Speaker 1: sold out. The whole show is about me, and so
Speaker 1: that okay. Well that yeah, May second at the lab
Speaker 1: at Um at the Improv seven pm, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to add an MPM show because the first one is
Speaker 1: sold out. Well, Netflix is joke, is having the whole
Speaker 1: festival that whole week, everybody, said Amy Shooman, Dave Chappelle,
Speaker 1: Kevin Hard, Cat Wins. So many people having shows everywhere
Speaker 1: throughout the city, Lily Tomlin, just so many people. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm on Monday night at the Improv, but we're looking
Speaker 1: to try to get something else, hopefully. I don't even
Speaker 1: know other days to tell y'all, ship tell you next
Speaker 1: week going at I don't know, but I do want
Speaker 1: to tell you guys, thank you guys for joining us.
Speaker 1: Here left, I'm glad to have my Lorie Jogi back
Speaker 1: and mis Sky Scott must be hungry because she're we're winning.
Speaker 1: Um what no, I just heard it for the first time.
Speaker 1: Thank thank you guys for joining us. I will be
Speaker 1: doing Loveland sometime tonight. I'm back home from Vegas. I'm glad.
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Speaker 1: We're simply trying to get you to use your mind
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Speaker 1: And thank you to um Christie. This morning we got
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Speaker 1: So thank you to our new flame man, and I
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Speaker 1: I'm not against you. I am against the bullshit in
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