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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: We're in a very weird pro divorce moment. This American

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Speaker 1: ex Wife is a really popular book among a certain

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Speaker 1: set of women. Okay, they all live in Brooklyn, about

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Speaker 1: how freeing divorces. Even the New York Times made fun

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Speaker 1: of this concept of freedom, though of course they did

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Speaker 1: it from the left. They wrote. Lens, for example, spends

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Speaker 1: much of her book detailing her struggle to get free,

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Speaker 1: but never feels she needs to define freedom. It is

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Speaker 1: taken as a given that freedom still means the law

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Speaker 1: firm partner in heels, the self made woman with an

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Speaker 1: independent business, the best selling author on book tour, the

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Speaker 1: woman who has shed any residue of the domestic and

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Speaker 1: has finally come to shine with capitalist achievement. It is

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Speaker 1: not the freedom for a woman to stay home with

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Speaker 1: her child for a year or five, the freedom to

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Speaker 1: stop working after a lifetime toiling in low wage jobs,

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Speaker 1: the freedom for a Filipina nanny to watch her own

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Speaker 1: children instead of those of her liberated American boss. The

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Speaker 1: freedom to start a farm or a homestead, or engage

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Speaker 1: in the kind of unpaid work ignored by an economy

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Speaker 1: that still values above all else the white collar professional

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Speaker 1: labor long dominated by men, and in fact mostly fails

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Speaker 1: to recognize other labor as valuable at all. End quote

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Speaker 1: it's bad when the New York Times is making fun

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Speaker 1: of you, and The Atlantic noted divorce is in the

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Speaker 1: literary air lately, but also said Lens's impulse to generalize

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Speaker 1: is so strong that at times her work whiffs of

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Speaker 1: self help. This idea that a woman can only be

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Speaker 1: free as long as she's not in a loving, stable

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Speaker 1: relationship is a weird lie sold to girls, and I

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Speaker 1: think it's getting worse. Boys are constantly portrayed as a

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Speaker 1: problem that girls are best to avoid. The idea that

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Speaker 1: life is about getting a job is pushed constantly. I

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Speaker 1: remember Michelle Obama telling girls to put books before boys. Look.

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Speaker 1: I fully agree with that. Obviously, of course, get an education,

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Speaker 1: but that has largely turned into all books, no boys.

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Speaker 1: Marriage rates continue to decrease, and this glamorizing of divorce

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Speaker 1: is not good for anyone. My prediction is that all

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Speaker 1: of these stories that we read over the last decade

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Speaker 1: about how older mena lonely, have no friends and no

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Speaker 1: social outlets will be told about women fairly soon. Women

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Speaker 1: are more social in general and encouraged to have friends,

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Speaker 1: but the whole idea that discourages them from being in

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Speaker 1: relationships will end up hurting them. I often talk about

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Speaker 1: things you should discuss with your children. Talk to your

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Speaker 1: kids about the importance of finding the right spouse, of

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Speaker 1: getting married and having a family. Say the words as

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Speaker 1: I like to say on this show. But this is

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Speaker 1: something to also talk about with friends so they don't

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Speaker 1: get influenced by bad actors. Divorce isn't glamorous, it isn't

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Speaker 1: freeing saying staying bad marriages. But don't believe the lie

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Speaker 1: being very much pushed right now, that divorce is the

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Speaker 1: only road to happiness and that a woman can only

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Speaker 1: be free when she is alone. So many of you

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Speaker 1: a political show. Unlike this podcast, new episodes are posted

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Speaker 1: Tuesdays and Thursdays, and just like this show, you can

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Speaker 1: your friends, tell everyone, tell your enemies. Why not. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you all so much. Coming up next and interview

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Speaker 1: with Dre de Matteo. Join us after the break.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My

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Speaker 2: guest today is Drey de Mateo. Drey is an Emmy

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Speaker 2: Award winning actress from the Sopranos and co founder of

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Speaker 2: the parrolne Ultra Free Hi. Dra, so nice to have

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Speaker 2: you on.

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Speaker 3: Hi, It's an honor to be here. I figure I'm.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of your work. I think I

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Speaker 2: cried when Adriana was killed on The Sopranos, and I

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Speaker 2: the car. But I've always thought you were just fantastic.

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Speaker 2: And I've followed a lot of your recent interviews and

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Speaker 2: you've talked about being an outcast in Hollywood because of

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Speaker 2: your support for Donald Trump. Why do it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, first off, I you know, it was

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Speaker 3: Before it was Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: I've been supporting Kennedy the whole time through the pistle pain.

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Speaker 4: Now that Kennedy's joined forces with Trump, I am not a.

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Speaker 3: What do they call them? The Trump derangement syndrome, folks?

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Speaker 3: Was no TDS.

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Speaker 4: Well, okay, I had that when I voted for Biden,

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Speaker 4: and I had never voted in my life because I

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Speaker 4: was always anti government, always believed it was a selection.

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Speaker 3: I was anti Bush all of these things.

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Speaker 4: And until I realized that this administration just seems like

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Speaker 3: But I you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Remember my daughter saying, you know, pick the lesser of

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Speaker 3: I wasn't paying much attention to what was going on.

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Speaker 4: I think that when there are Democrats in office, liberals

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Speaker 4: do tend to go to sleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I felt like, you know, when Trump was

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Speaker 4: in office, all I kept saying was I think this

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Speaker 5: Everyone's awake. But I yes, and now cast in Hollywood.

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Speaker 5: I was never part of Hollywood to be pushed out

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Speaker 5: of there. It never would have even I don't care.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I'd go back right now to act

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Speaker 4: think it's a I think everything is so rigged right now.

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Speaker 4: I'm not happy with the media period in general. I

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Speaker 4: every angle and creative I just, yeah, my ostracized from Hollywood,

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Speaker 4: my set aside because of Trump. I mean, am I

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Speaker 4: going to get behind Trump right now?

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Speaker 3: Fourth? Right?

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Speaker 2: I just you know, I just don't get like so

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Speaker 2: I'm a conservative. You know, before we got on, you said,

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Speaker 2: which is funny because you are a liberal, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean self proclaimed liberal, and yet you're supporting Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: You could have an easier time, you know, you could

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Speaker 2: not say anything you can I mean, you could obviously

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Speaker 2: join the Kamala train, but even if you don't want

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Speaker 2: curious about the people who don't have to speak up

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Speaker 2: why what motivates you?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: I had no choice. I fell into it. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: when I lost everything through the vaccine mandates, that was

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Speaker 3: Started to get really heated. I was losing my home.

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Speaker 4: It was a family decision and only fans as a

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Speaker 3: I am between two worlds. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: It's like the conservatives don't want me because I did that,

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Speaker 3: You know, a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Us and a lot of us ultraliberals will say that,

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Speaker 3: The new pop rock. Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 4: A lot of my I'm digressing and I always do,

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Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. This is this is a flowing conversation,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it breaks my heart to see my liberal friends

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Speaker 4: who don't understand yet, and the minute you mentioned because

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Speaker 4: they I got them all behind Kennedy. Took a while,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's so it feels like the biggest mountain

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Speaker 4: I think people need to get back to the middle,

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Speaker 4: You know, I know Trump's a republic and I know

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Speaker 3: I mean he has to, Yeah, he's his own thing.

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Speaker 3: Know, with Kennedy in there, because he gives a voice.

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Speaker 2: Do you get support from the Italian American world because

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Speaker 3: It's funny. I got all their support.

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Speaker 2: What's your largest cultural concern? Like, what do you worry about?

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Speaker 2: What's our biggest cultural problem?

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Speaker 4: Without sounding like an asshole, I would say the idiot

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Speaker 3: That's a terrible thing to say. I think where does

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Speaker 4: It starts in the media, you know, they push it

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Speaker 3: The fund the media.

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Speaker 2: The hat says yes.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like a lot of these cultural issues

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Speaker 4: and Kennedy says it great, while you have everybody infighting

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Speaker 3: All of that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I think, imagine if we had a society where two

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Speaker 3: You look at the two parties and the Liberals will war.

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Speaker 3: They vote for war, and that's a switch. That's a

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Speaker 4: And I wonder with all this sort of identity politics,

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Speaker 3: But I think they know it. I think they're hip

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Speaker 2: What's the idea behind your ultra free brand? Like the

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Speaker 2: freedom thing seems to be a thing for you, definitely right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it is.

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Speaker 4: When I almost lost my home and my kids had

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Speaker 3: She offered to help me.

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Speaker 4: I just want to tell you that I'll never forget

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Speaker 4: it because she's she was my I wouldn't take anything

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Speaker 3: Your mortgage off, and I'll do it right now. And

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Speaker 4: But but we were very aligned during the whole Ukraine

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Speaker 4: Happening in Ukraine Russia, and I'm like, I don't really know,

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Speaker 3: All this stuff, that's where Ultra Free was born.

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Speaker 4: It was continue it was losing everything over freedom of speech.

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Speaker 3: Oh for being afraid. I was afraid.

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Speaker 4: I was afraid people were going to come to my

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Speaker 3: We had to move. We were leaving.

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Speaker 3: And there's more stuff coming that you know that we

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you know there's more stuff on the horizon

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Speaker 4: that is going to trample on our freedom. It's no

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Speaker 4: matter who gets in office, they're going to push this

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Speaker 4: born out of all of that. It was, you know,

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Speaker 4: don't tread on me. It's a very I guess sort

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Speaker 3: And where this is one of our shirts, what is

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Speaker 4: For Nuclear Disarmament, the Saints and we you know, we

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Speaker 3: This hasn't come out yet, but our.

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Speaker 4: Dual Protection Collection and a lot of them are either

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Speaker 4: We're anti war, but you're not taking our guns while

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Speaker 4: you're corrupting our government.

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Speaker 3: That's just never going to happen.

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Speaker 4: So we support all of these things that most liberals

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's ultra free for you.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: All these hats. You know we're going to be selling

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you fund the media? Had yet one? So

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Speaker 2: you survived all of this, You made it to the

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Speaker 2: other side. You're doing what seems to be really well. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'll never make it in terms of what's important to me, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I want an Emmy that's cool, like I made it.

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Speaker 3: I made it in that realm. I'm working on a

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Speaker 4: I think that that will be a cool place for

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Speaker 3: But I think that things are just changing so much.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they'll ever be an a moment

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Speaker 4: where I sit there and say my more immature self

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Speaker 4: Crossford Puzzles, I was like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I made it. Now if you put me in the

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Speaker 3: But no, no, and I don't care about making it.

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Speaker 4: I just care about I just care about taking care

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Speaker 3: That's always been the thing that has filled.

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Speaker 4: Me the most to be able when I lost all

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Speaker 4: Is I know a lot of people are going to

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Speaker 4: need help moving forward and what's about to go down

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Speaker 2: That's really great. I really enjoyed that. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for coming on and here with your best tip

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Speaker 2: for my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

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Speaker 4: All the truth, pick up every rock in your path,

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Speaker 4: don't look at headlines, and try to educate your friends

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Speaker 4: gently ask questions. Ask them to ask questions or follow

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Speaker 4: the truth. It's always follow the truth. And teach your

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, kids are damned if they if

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Speaker 4: they have if they have an opinion, there a future.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely yeah. Good advice. She's Dre de Matteo. Check

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Speaker 2: out her new brand called Ultra Free. Thank you so

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Speaker 2: much for coming, Andre, Thank you for having.

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