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Speaker 1: This is the Draft Prospect Review podcast on Patriots dot

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Speaker 1: Com Radio. Welcome to the NFL Draft. The Draft Prospect

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Speaker 1: Review Podcast is your source for all the latest news

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Speaker 1: and information on the NFL Draft. The New England Patriots

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Speaker 1: like now here to preview the safeties. The writers of

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Speaker 1: Patriots dot Com, Well, guys, we come to the end

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Speaker 1: of the rowth. This is our last position to break

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Speaker 1: down the safeties, last, but not least, because there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of good ones, um and there's some high

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Speaker 1: end talents at this position, but it's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: last position that we break down in our draft podcast previews.

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Speaker 1: Here Mike Deso and Matisse Bowman. I like saying Bowman,

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Speaker 1: So we we're going to talk about the safeties and

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Speaker 1: guys when you look at this position, it's impossible to really, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, delve into these guys without talking about Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think this is one of the better

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Speaker 1: I think this might be the best project, my number

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Speaker 1: one prospect on the draft board in general. And uh,

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Speaker 1: he's a guy with really solid size, instincts to play mobility, versatility.

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Speaker 1: I think he I mean, I don't know how high

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Speaker 1: he's going to go in this draft, But I think

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Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find a guy who's better

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Speaker 1: suited for the next level in the in the entire class. Yeah, totally.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's it's he's gonna be long gone by

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Speaker 1: the time the Patriots picked. But imagining what you know,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick could do with that kind of guy with

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Speaker 1: like you said, the size, I mean, six foot four, um,

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Speaker 1: the anticipation he comes down with heart. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: just it's such an interesting position overall for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: because they're kind of stacked there, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: You have mccordy came back, but you've got Dugger, You've

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Speaker 1: got Phillips they signed to Bill Peppers, You've got Josh

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Speaker 1: Bledsoe waiting in the wings from last year. Um. But

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Speaker 1: I think overall the class, you know, after Hamilton, there's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of guys who, if they had more

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Speaker 1: the second level, with you know, just to throw Daxon

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Speaker 1: even though they have that position pretty well set. I

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Speaker 1: think he's one guy that that has intrigued a lot

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Speaker 1: of people just with his versatility and you know, the speed,

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Speaker 1: So Mike brought up Daxon Hamilton teas, what do you

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Speaker 1: think of I mean, not Daxon Hill, I'm sorry, not

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Speaker 1: Hamilton's Daxton Hill. Well, what do you think of Hill?

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Speaker 1: I like him a lot. He's really fast as at

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Speaker 1: One of the things that he could be moved the corner.

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Speaker 1: And then it's like, do you really want to save

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Speaker 1: you know, going down the list, Paul, I don't want

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Speaker 1: I also like Smoke Monday from Auburn, big tone setter. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, all these guys really are just enforcers, and

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