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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Sticks. We have I guess we

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Speaker 1: call this an emergency pod. You got emergency podcast because

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton has finally signed with the team, and he

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Speaker 1: signed with a couple of guys beloved doing the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: So have our Jina and the Bill joined me on

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Speaker 1: the podcast and we just gonna have a conversation about

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton joining the Patriots. And before I kind of

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Speaker 1: go on my monologue about what it means, I just

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Speaker 1: kind of want to get your immediate reaction to like

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Speaker 1: what you thought when you finally saw I come across Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll start Bucky. For me as a Patriots fan,

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Speaker 1: I love it. You know, just going from Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: to Jared Stidham, it was not a great feeling that

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Speaker 1: sits in your stomach as a as a football fan.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like you know you got this fourth

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Speaker 1: round pick out of Harburn. It's just like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is gonna work out. So

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Speaker 1: so to have someone like Cam Newton, you know, former

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Speaker 1: it's just It's a signing that makes so much sense, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, Bill and the Patriots they always take they

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Speaker 1: love those value picks where it's former number one, you know,

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Speaker 1: former first round picks, former m vps that are that

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Speaker 1: are not highly touted anymore because people, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: injury concerns or something else. And and the fact that

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Speaker 1: on a bargain is great. So as a Patriots fan,

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Speaker 1: I love it. What about you? To Bill, what do

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Speaker 1: you think you're You're the resident hater because it's not

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Speaker 1: a packer, so what so what do you think about it?

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Speaker 1: I'll be very unbiased about it. But uh, no, I

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Speaker 1: thought that the Patriots had to make some type of movies.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't take it fully serious that you know, Jared's

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Speaker 1: didn't would be their starting quarterback. I thought Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: had something up his sleeve. So, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's a perfect signing also because I mean you get

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Speaker 1: market like this in any other year. No, Like, I

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Speaker 1: think it's a unique situation. And there are a couple

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Speaker 1: different things to come to mind when I think about

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. One, I think the Patriots have always done

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Speaker 1: a great job of finding value picks. Like this is

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Speaker 1: a team that is traditionally loaded up on former first

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Speaker 1: round picks that have been discarded. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: on their defense, they had like seven or eight former

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Speaker 1: they had Adrian Clayborn and all those other guys. So

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Speaker 1: value picks at the press prices. But the three reasons

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Speaker 1: why I actually think this really works for the Patriots

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Speaker 1: um Bill Belichick has always respected talent. If you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at the Patriots over time, anyone who

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Speaker 1: has been a nemesis to them, they always find a

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Speaker 1: way to bring them on board. It reminds me of

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Speaker 1: They would always go and get these players that have

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Speaker 1: how Lagary Blunt comes over and has been a guy

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Speaker 1: he goes to Pittsburgh, doesn't work out, they bring him

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Speaker 1: part of what they do. The Patriots have a way

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Speaker 1: they only asked them to do what they do really well.

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Speaker 1: When you go back and look at the history at

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Speaker 1: it comes to practice and preparation. It is a grinder

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the mental part of playing for

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. They talked about the pop quizzes and all

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Speaker 1: And that is scary to think that he has been

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Speaker 1: just think this, this is what everyone was afraid of.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the that's the big caveat here. Is Cam

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Speaker 1: you know, for me as a Patriots fan, that's that's

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Speaker 1: I think the Patriots always take an approach of you've

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Speaker 1: Cam is coming to this team. What about your Neville?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? How I was gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: So So this is funny because I think our June,

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Speaker 1: The way they play in September is completely the different

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Speaker 1: Decembers when we've watched the Patriots, the Patriots have played

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Speaker 1: the field one on one, deep comebacks, deep digs, things

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Speaker 1: that Cam Newton throws really well because he's not the

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Speaker 1: the last few years Cam's had been beset with injuries,

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Speaker 1: complete almost seventy of his passes, averaging two pass yards

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Speaker 1: really believe anyone in the a f C East is

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Speaker 1: I would probably pick the Bills. Here's the thing about that.

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