WEBVTT - Dillon Dingler, Framber Valdez and another series win 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.959 And welcome into an episode of Tiger Territory, part of 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:15.160 the Foul Territory Nowork Detroit Tiger's podcast. I am ker 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.319 secretly with me as always a man who pays for 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:20.720 his burritos in more ways than one. He's cally saving 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:21.480 and how are we doing? 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.520 It's doing all right, Kieren? What a what a weird season? 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:27.400 This is, man, the Tigers area, they're like the greatest 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:30.120 team ever now they're making baseball look easy. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:34.080 Well, here here's the thing, Cody, it's not like the 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.960 whole don't let the Tigers get hot thing. The Tigers 0:00:38.000 --> 0:00:40.640 are hot like they they're like, there's just no way 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.120 around it. You can't talk your way out of any 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:48.280 other statement. And I'm much we're recording this, uh you 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.920 know in the evening on Thursday. I don't have the 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.480 score of the White Sox Red Sox game in front 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:55.720 of me right now, But if it's not for the 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.720 Red Sox, I do kind of believe the Tigers might 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.720 be sort of like the the talk of baseball a 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:05.760 little bit more, especially given the trades and how the 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:06.960 trade deadline went down. 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:09.119 But look, eleven to nothing. 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.720 That's after an eight nothing win to begin and then 0:01:11.760 --> 0:01:15.120 obviously you lose the game in the middle there, but 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.000 you win another series that you put it out on. 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.720 X six straight road series wins for the Tigers for 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:24.200 most since nineteen eighty eight. There's another stat where it's 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:28.400 like most runs in this span or whatever since nineteen 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.280 forty six. Like, we're far reaching. We talked about the 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.160 nineteen twenty seven stuff last time. We're far reaching to 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.280 kind of make comparisons and ways to kind of like 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:40.720 talk about this team, Cody. Maybe the bottom line is this, 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:45.319 Maybe this is just a good offensive team. I'm just 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:50.560 gonna like read off some stats here for the Tigers. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.680 This is in American League rankings. 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:53.640 What do you want? You want? 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:56.800 Ops? The Tigers are second in the American League in ops? 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:57.640 What do you want you want? 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:03.400 The walks they are What about home runs they are fourth? 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.320 You know, what about run scoring in general? They are fourth. 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:11.359 Like there's there's a lot of avenues you can go 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:13.960 and a lot of them. Had the Tigers near the 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.200 top of the American League when it comes to just 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:21.520 raw offensive output. So like as tentative as we have 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.600 have been, maybe to like embrace it and then as 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:27.360 bad as it was, like because we always use the. 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.320 June one sort of like timestamp. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.480 As bad as it was, maybe it's just time to 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:34.520 accept Cody, this is. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:35.320 A good offense. 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.079 Yeah. I mean, I think they've jumped from like eighteenth 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.480 to tenth in ops in like five days, and that 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.480 was before an eleven zero wins, So that really speaks 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.680 to how good it has been in the past week. Yeah, 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.600 even just a few days ago they were still rinked 0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.520 below average. Now they're a top ten offense in the league. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.239 That really speaks to how good they have been since 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:01.959 that magical June first date. They have been consistently hitting 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:04.480 the ball really, really well. They've done it against some 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:07.200 good pitching. They did it today against Bryce Miller, a 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:11.600 pitcher who had historically shut them down, and there are 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.280 signs that this offense could be getting better adding a 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.240 player like Max Clerk. Even though Javier Bays is not 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.400 really an offensive force anymore, he is arguably better than 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:23.600 some of the guys they were forced to roll out 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.880 at other points in the season, the balls leaving some 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.800 the yard. You have some guys, you know, Riley Green's 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.560 probably not even really playing his best right now, although 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:35.520 he did hit another one out of the Park in 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.200 this series. So yeah, I don't know. Sometimes it still 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.840 doesn't on paper, doesn't feel like that good of an offense. 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:44.560 But when you have Kevin McGonagall, when you have Dylan Dingler, 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.960 you still have Riley Green. The power of this team, 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.800 the ability to change the scoreboard has really reached a 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.360 different level than we've seen in many years here in Detroit, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.120 and the fact they've been able to sustain that for 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.480 an elongated period of time is really encouraging. 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.080 Yeah, And I would even say, like a day like 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.200 today when you you get out to the early lead 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.640 and and and you have like what was a ten 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:17.599 eleven straight at bats, and you know, recorded outs or whatever, 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:19.520 so you know, it's not really pretty in the middle, 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.000 but then you still kind of apply the pressure. You 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.799 still you know, you don't kind of abandon your approach, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.080 and and you and you blow the game wide open, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.400 and then even kind of tack on some stuff with 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:33.560 the position player pitching, So like overall, like it's it. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.160 That's what a good that's what a good offense does. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.640 You You take advantage of a pitcher who's maybe not 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.240 as sharp as he normally is, you're aggressive, you get 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:45.360 runs on the board, yeah, he settles in, Yeah, you're 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:47.880 not you know, you know, not performing like you were 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.320 early in the game, and then you still kind of 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.240 keep the pressure on and go ahead and get insurance 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.960 runs this and Lord knows, this is something that's something 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.400 that this team is gonna need a lot more often 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.400 than not, given where weaknesses are, which we all know 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:08.760 what those are. Speaking of, where are the weaknesses? Dylan Dingler, Cody, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:10.120 Dylan Dingler? 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:12.000 Does it exist? 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.560 If someone would like to point something out, I'd love 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:18.520 to see it the midst of a historic season. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:19.679 We've talked about it before. 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.359 I loved this quote from AJ to you guys in 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.920 the post game scrum where he's just like it's hard 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.960 to continue saying the same things about him. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.400 It was like us AJ lockstep baby. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:36.640 Because I feel the exact same way home runs in 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.680 every game of this series. He's approaching the thirty home 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:43.279 run mark. Like I was trying to figure out, like, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.720 what's the most impressive thing about Dylan Dingler, and I 0:05:47.320 --> 0:05:51.640 think I just came across the simple fact is this 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:54.440 guy is a no days off guy because he's so 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.000 good and if you would not know it based on 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.480 how he is when he's behind the play how he plays, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.560 and then when he's in the in the box, like 0:06:02.600 --> 0:06:05.280 how he hits, you would never guess that. Like, this 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.000 is a guy that the Tigers just cannot afford to 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.760 not put in the lineup because he just delivers over 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:11.640 and over again. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:15.440 Yeah, it's been pretty remarkable. It's like when we were 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:18.919 talking about Troy Melton in our last episode, how sometimes 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.080 these guys don't get credit until all of a sudden 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:23.359 they do. I remember I was here in Seattle in 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.240 this ballpark last year for the postseason, and the day 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.680 before the ds I wrote a story about Dylan Dingler 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.240 kind of being like, hey, cal Raley's not the only 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.040 good catcher in this series. I remember that, and and 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:36.600 yeah you should have heard that. I think there was 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:38.600 Netter Who's like, a, do we really need to write this? 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:40.800 Like is anyone going to read about this guy? Was like, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:42.120 I don't know if they're going to read it, but 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.080 I think it should be said. You know, I think 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.840 it should be out there. I think it should be known. 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:50.240 And so here we are now, right, and I still 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:53.240 think Dingler's people probably know who he is. Now he 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.359 has the gold glove? Is he getting the level of 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.680 attention he should be for having a terrific season from 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:02.719 a catcher for a Flaherty tweeted after the game, belonging 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:06.200 in a certain conversation. I mean, I think even locally, 0:07:06.240 --> 0:07:08.040 even those of us who watch every day, it's kind 0:07:08.040 --> 0:07:10.360 of crazy to, you know, pull up the war tab 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:13.560 and see, oh, Dylan Dingler's second among all American League players. 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.640 Know he is firmly in the MVP conversation. Even if 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:20.200 Jordon Alvarez is leading all three Triple Crown categories right now, 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.240 Like if Jordon falls off at all, guess who was 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.880 right there knocking on the door, and guess who is 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:27.880 probably is. It's going to be soon. I get that 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.720 message from like an editor, Hey, we were written about 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.200 this dilly guy. And that's just how these things work 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.640 when you work for a bigger national outlet, right. I 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.720 think a bigger level of acclaim and attention is coming 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.880 soon and is well deserved because he has been so good, 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:47.680 so consistent. The ability to consistently hit for power has 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:50.840 just been kind of baffling, again, especially for a guy 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.400 who was, even though he was always a well liked prospect, 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.680 was never really build to be vi. You know, there 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.640 was a lot of work, a lot of improvement on 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.920 his own that went into it. It's hard to even 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.080 get him to talk about it. We were asking about 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:06.840 after the game and he just kind of shrugged and 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.760 said like two words. Then off camera he basically said, yeah, 0:08:09.760 --> 0:08:11.280 I like that. I don't I don't know. I don't 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.960 know how to talk about myself. And that's one of 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:15.640 the endearing things about Dylan Tingler. 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.840 Yeah, one of the many endearing things about Dylan Tingler. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.200 So look forward to continuing to see him climb up 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.760 the ranks. In that certain conversation, and I will say 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:31.960 the fact that he did not start the All Star Game. 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:34.240 I know we're backtracking a little bit, but the fact 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:35.760 that he did not start the All Star Game to 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:38.520 me tells me, yeah, like more people need to recognize. 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.240 So I'll just leave it at that, all right, Cody, 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:45.200 I gotta tell you something. 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And really 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.840 this game will be known for as like a continuation 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.320 of Tigers Mariners. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.640 Shnanigans. I think it would be a it would be 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:40.400 a way to put it. 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.120 We obviously remember the Naylor play earlier in the year 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.640 and then even last year in the playoffs again involving 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:49.160 Naylor with the fake signals and just everything that went 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:52.160 into that five game series. I get, you know, there's 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.560 a whirl where this becomes somewhat of a rivalry here 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.320 for the next several years. That's getting ahead of ourselves, 0:10:57.360 --> 0:10:58.480 but I wouldn't mind it. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:10:59.120 And so. 0:11:00.559 --> 0:11:03.320 Torres gets thrown at, there's a suspension or a couple 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:09.880 of suspensions and ejections, anything there that's lingering or is 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.559 that just kind of like that specific Aainstus was just 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.520 kind of like baseball heated at the moment, we just 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:16.160 got to move on. 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:22.520 Hard to say, I mean, it seemed over and done Thursday, 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.080 But then again, Josh Naylor wasn't in the lineup, neither 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.720 was Cal Raley. If these two teams were, by some 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.400 twist of fate to meet again in the postseason, I'm 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.800 not sure. Or could this even carry over to next year, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.720 I don't know. It might Tigers Mariners has certainly become 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:39.000 a little bit chippy. You guys probably saw the video. 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:41.600 I don't know if Glaber actually told Cal at least 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:44.520 I have hits, or if that's just what the amateur 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:45.960 lip readers. 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:47.520 It's funny. 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:49.959 I think he said it is funny. Talking to Glaber 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.080 after the game, he played the nice guy role. He 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.079 said he went up to Cal before they get bad 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.080 and asked him how he was doing, so he knows 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:59.560 how much it sucks to get hit. And then when 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.079 Glaber got hit, he said, all I told Cal was, hey, 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.720 there were two strikes. When Dajesus hit you, it wasn't 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.800 on purpose. For as much as the benches, I was 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.640 surprised the benches cleared because it never really looked to 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.080 me like Glaber and Cal were gonna come to blows 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:16.160 and even though you know, then everyone pours out of 0:12:16.200 --> 0:12:18.800 the dog out and poor Kinley Jansen has to jog 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:21.720 all the way in from the bulpit, and AJ's kind 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.599 of there in the middle of it, but nothing was 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:28.200 really happening, so it just kind of seemed silly. I mean, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:31.559 Spire definitely took two shots at Glaber Torres, which is 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.000 a great way to get a suspension. I think maybe 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:36.080 if you didn't hit him the first time, you just said, 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:38.800 okay and move, I'll walk back in on the bat here. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.400 Is that really worth three games? I know he's appealing it, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.400 but come on, so yeah, I mean, schippy chippy for sure. 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.800 And that's just how the game goes sometimes. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:52.600 Yeah, and well, hell how the game goes sometimes. That's 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:55.920 how you probably describe what was kind of the I mean, 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:59.640 it was the go ahead play of the game. Hulo Rodriez, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.880 Homer's up, Brennan Hannifee there comes in to replace Tyler Holton, 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:10.600 and it's for everything, clicking on all cylinders and AJ 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.600 and the Tigers and you know, just finding the right 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.760 uh right buttons to push. That one was kind of 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:19.760 a reminder of a lot that happened early in the 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.960 season Cody, where it just seems like nothing was really 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.760 working out, you know, and and Attilio. So I'm not like, 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.679 you know Antulio Rodriguez, but it was kind of demoralizing 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:33.720 and ultimately a deficit that the Tigers could not overcome 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:34.520 in that situation. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.880 But did you did you understand the Hannafee moved there? Yeah? 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.000 I did. In the moment, I was like, really, like, 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.480 you're gonna walk King Zone to face Julio, Like, I 0:13:43.559 --> 0:13:45.880 don't care, like you're gonna You're gonna walk the guy 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.640 to face Julio Rodriguez. That's pretty tough to justify. And 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.760 then I don't know, I went and looked at the numbers. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.480 Julio was just not being good against righty's this year, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:57.880 six ninety four ops. Uh, whereas dominic kin Zone has 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:02.559 been a terrific hitter. An eighty eight ops against right 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.240 handed batters. Is the second time this has happened. I 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:08.120 don't remember who the opponent was, but someone else walked 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.400 can Zone and faced cal Raley and what did cal 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.400 Raley do? Cal Rawley has not had a good year, 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:17.200 went Yard, so dom Canzone emerging as a real legit 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.160 hitter has altered the complexion of the Mariners lineup, and 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:24.840 it's it's clearly giving other teams some difficult decisions, you know, 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:28.080 scrolling on X it seems like it. Well, even as 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.800 I just unpack it, I think AJ's only real other 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:34.000 option there would be to roll with Tyler Houlton. Tyler 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:36.280 Holton has not been good against righty's this year, so 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:39.360 Holton against a Rose arena is not a very good matchup. 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.200 I guess you could walk a ros arena and have 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:46.600 Holton pitch to can zone, but you're giving the Mariners 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:49.400 a free base runner. When AJ brought in Hanify, he 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:52.480 was trying to end that inning with nobody on base. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.720 And this is really how AJ has managed game since 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.640 his first year here. He likes to have a pocket 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.800 of three hitters and he likes to have the advantage 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:03.480 against two of them, So that's what he was doing. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:05.720 It's really not out of line with anything he has 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.240 ever done. What is out of line with things he's 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:10.680 normally done is his bullpen is terrible and he really 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.920 has very right handed options. So if you ask me 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.200 what I think, I don't know. Man Brendan Hanify has 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.600 just not been very good lately. He's a sinkerballer who 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:25.800 suddenly has been watching sinkers leave the yard. He got 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.400 a Rose Raine in a two strike count. He threw 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.120 an OK pitch inside sinker but just wasn't enough or 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.480 Rose Raino was on it. You make the decision to 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:36.760 walk can zone, like, I know the optics aren't great, 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.600 but you can't be afraid of a guy like Julio 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.080 just because he's a big name on paper. Right now, 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.240 Julio Rodriguez is not that great against Righty's so I 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.880 don't blame aj for that. It's a reflection of what 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:51.640 has been a problem and what I unfortunately predicted would 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.080 be a problem starting Drew Anderson when he's not all 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.240 the way stretched out, like you have to cover more 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.200 innings with this bullpen, and that came back to by 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.440 the Tigers. It's not really a problem. They have a 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:06.920 great solution to going forward. We saw handaf he pitch 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.600 again Thursday, which seems to me like he's probably heading 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:12.480 out when they activate Jackson jobs. So maybe we'll be 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:15.640 seeing more of Yilbar Diaz, who to his credit at 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:17.720 least throws pretty hard. I don't know if he can 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:20.240 throw strikes at all. He really never has even in 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.560 the minor leagues. But we may be seeing some more 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:25.920 yielbar Diaz, if he can get in the zone at 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:27.600 least see some intriguing traits. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:33.920 Yeah, and the traits of this team are I would say. 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.360 We talked about the offense earlier, like top level offense 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:42.880 and a lot of categories. I would say exciting, starting 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.080 pitching options for the most part, and those are the 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.720 two things that you have to kind of hope enough 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:53.360 working unison to curb the weakness that is your bullpen 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.720 and the options that AJ has to go to the pen. 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.040 One of the ways that you do that is do 0:16:58.160 --> 0:17:00.720 what Fromber did today. So I would put myself in 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:04.200 the category of of somebody who's been hard on Fromber 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.000 because I hold him to the standard of which he 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.119 came to this team, right. And he had the start 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.400 in Sacramento where he, you know, one of his best 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.800 his best ball, scattered nine hits, gave up two runs, 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:18.880 but he went seven innings all right, six k's two 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.880 walks today. He was awesome, and I I really liked 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.880 that they stuck with the curveball. I agree with Dan 0:17:26.960 --> 0:17:29.800 Dickerson that that is a weapon that you can use, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.440 particularly against Rioty's to back door. Like I do think 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.720 that unlocks a whole other version of Fromber. And like 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:40.320 it was, he might have gone like six or seven 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.240 six seven, He might have gone six or seven straight 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.720 without throwing that first strike, but they stuck with it 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.760 and it came up huge, and it's and and and 0:17:49.040 --> 0:17:52.320 uh in a couple of situations, including against Julio Rodriguez 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.240 speaking uh speaking of him, so like I we got 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.360 to give Fromber a lot of credit because he stepped 0:17:57.440 --> 0:18:01.080 up in ways these past two starts that we have 0:18:01.320 --> 0:18:02.720 been looking for him to do. 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.880 Given and now you're like the number one guy. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:08.200 So his first start, as quote the number one guy, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:13.320 he goes seven scoreless and rather efficient too. I would say, uh, 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:16.160 you know for Fromber there, and you know, I would 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.440 say even with that, Julio, he was down three to 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.080 zero in that count. I want to make mention of that, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.160 and got him to ground out to end the ending. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.960 That was after getting the cal zone looking strike on 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.439 a sinker that froze him. That was after a Federal 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.600 Mountain visit. So like when things could have still been 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.479 dicey Fromber locked in and and that version of Fromber 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.119 is gonna be a huge asset for this team moving forward. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.080 Yeah, credit credit to him for a really nice outing. 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.840 He wouldn't quite admit it after the game, but I 0:18:43.880 --> 0:18:46.359 think he knows that he kind of has to answer 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.160 the call with Casey May's gone and with Terrek Scugle gone. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.680 That's very much what he did Thursday, not just the 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:53.480 good outing, but like you kind of point out being 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:56.120 pitch efficient and going seven innings again with the state 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.400 of the bullpen, like that is important for a guy 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.680 like from er Valdez to go takedown innings from now 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:03.680 to the rest of the season. Maybe even if he 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.680 doesn't have his best stuff, they need this guy going 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:10.560 six or seven innings every time, you know, there were 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.840 he only had four swings and misses all day. Zero 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:16.760 won his sinker, So I actually don't love that. I mean, 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:19.199 he's not a strikeout guy by nature, but you got 0:19:19.320 --> 0:19:21.480 to have a little more whift than that. However, his 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.960 command just seemed a lot more precise than it has. 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.040 He was able to spot the sinker pretty well for 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.560 the most part, really spotted the curveball well at the 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:33.520 bottom of the zone and below, so that that was impressive. 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.640 I think that is as crisp as we have seen 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.560 him in a long time. He looked confident in what 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:39.760 he was doing with his pitches. Dylan Dingler called a 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:43.440 really good game. Being in a little better command of 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.760 the sinker. I think opened up a lot of other 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.200 options for him, almost allowed him to go to that 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.720 curveball more often. That is a lot closer to the 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.840 version of from Rivaldez that we would like to see. 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.680 Well, speaking of versions, let's uh, let's let's look forward 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.520 to Saturday a little bit, Cody. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:03.879 Uh. 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.000 You know the Tigers we mentioned like are they are 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:10.840 people recognizing it as much as they should? Well, Saturday 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:13.479