WEBVTT - Draft Show: Time is Ticking 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:08.520 He is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.360 room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:15.960 the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. 0:00:18.840 --> 0:00:23.520 Today is Tuesday, March fifth, and we are officially fifty 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.560 one days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:31.160 Time is dwindling and it's time to investigate and educate 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:33.600 here on the Draft Show, presented by Miller Light, a 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.440 taste you can depend on. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:36.040 We've got a. 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.680 Full house again today as everybody's back from the combine, 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:42.920 back from different road trips throughout, and it's gonna be 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.160 a phenomenal hour talking about draft prospects with Bobby Belt, 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.480 Nick Harris, Brian Protess, Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yellman's glad 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.200 you're with us, and it's been quite the week. And 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.640 I have to start the show by giving all sorts 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.760 of props to mister Nick Harris, who was out in 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:00.440 Indianapolis yes. 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:03.320 This past week, did a great job. First round draft pick. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.039 Guys, I do how was it? It was fun? 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:06.200 Man. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:07.120 It was the first combine. 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.080 Yeah, it was my first combine, first time in Indianapolis, 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:10.720 all the way around. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:10.880 It was. 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.080 It was a really good experience. 0:01:12.640 --> 0:01:16.840 Got there early Tuesday morning and was going at it 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.120 until I got back at midnight on Saturday, and it 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.959 was a it was a good time, man, really good time. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:21.960 What was your favorite part? 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:26.080 Oh man, my face almost imploding at Saint Elmo's. 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:28.880 Yeah, okay about shrip cocktail. 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.119 No, no, no, They tried to tell me. I just didn't. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:32.440 I took it differently. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.399 So I went with Alex Lively, one of our great 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.480 videographers here, and he was like, yeah, man, that. 0:01:38.480 --> 0:01:40.399 Shrip cocktail is pretty good. You gotta be careful, you know. 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:42.200 And I'm thinking like, oh, okay, I gotta be careful because 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.120 it's really good, you know, like you're gonna eat a 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.800 lot of it. And then I'm on the phone with 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:48.640 Nick Eatman right as the trimp cocktail gets placed right 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:49.800 in front of me, and I'm like, oh, well, I 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:50.800 just got this shrimp cocktail. 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:51.440 I'm gonna try it out. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:51.720 Nick. 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:52.920 He says the same thing. He's like, oh man, I 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:54.880 be careful with that. I'm like, I take it the 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.080 same way. I'm like, oh, okay, it's really good trip cocktail. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.400 Everybody want me to be careful with this thing? 0:01:59.440 --> 0:01:59.840 Well, it's not. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:01.760 It was more so like, okay, so this is gonna 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.360 be really good. So I'm like, man, I'm gonna take 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.160 a big fat bite, like on my first bite thing 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:06.560 because I want to get it. I want to I 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.480 want to get it good. I eat the whole shrimp 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.679 with everything on it, and for the viewers, it's basically 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.040 like layered and horse radish, but there's a cocktail sauce 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.120 on top of it, so you don't see the horse radish. 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.320 So I'm seeing like a ton of cocktail sauce and 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:21.680 I'm like, oh man, this is gonna be great because 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:22.560 I love cocktail sauce. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.000 I bite the whole thing. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.280 And I was really exhausted by this point of the 0:02:26.320 --> 0:02:27.840 day because it was like nine thirty at night on 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.400 the first night we had got there, didn't get good 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:33.480 sleep the night before, and my face almost like imploded. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:35.400 I thought I was about to have like a stroke 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.480 right there in the middle of Saint Almost you know 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:38.239 it was. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:39.760 It was. It was taxing. 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.240 You have something in common with Jeff Lurry, the owner 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:42.920 with the Eagles. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:43.640 That's great. 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:45.560 So we did the same thing, and we forgot to 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:48.000 tell him though we didn't tell him. You know, we 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:51.160 just assumed that everybody at the table knows that. Yeah, 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.320 you take a cracker, you dip it in the cocktail 0:02:53.360 --> 0:02:55.440 sauce and then you figure that out. Or you take 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.320 a little bitty bite of the shrimp, yeah you cut it. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.560 And Jeff Lurry did the same thing, and literally I 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:02.919 thought we'd killed the owner. 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:03.200 Of the Eagles. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:08.680 Yeah, he stopped and his face would flush and I'm like, 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:12.240 oh my god, he's not breathing. And it was the 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.200 horse reddish sauce. But it is something you absolutely have 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:15.799 to try there. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.240 Yeah, I immediately started crying, like it was. It was 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.040 just tears pouring out in my face and sinuses. I 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.120 was awake for like five more hours after that game. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.760 It's better than coffee like that. That's that's that's what. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:27.639 Great meal, they said. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.800 I remember last year there was a column from the 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.440 Indianapolis Star that where they interviewed the same almost director 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.600 and they said that that used to be a prank 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.160 that Jerry would pull on people when they would come in, 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:39.960 is that he'd give them the cocktail sauce and not 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:41.360 tell him how hot it was, and then he'd just 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:43.640 start dying laughing when their mouth was on fire. 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:45.000 That's that's something I would do. 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:49.360 Ye like this year, Yes, this year is Jerry. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.280 This cheery is good at paid for dinner though too 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:55.120 there is only one Jerry, just letting you know, good 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:56.280 point being good point. 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.880 The worst mistake I ever made, and it also involved 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.720 saying Elmo's Cockit cocktail sauce. They brought it around on 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.280 these trays to the convention center. Yeah, but they did 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:07.400 it at like seven thirty in the morning. So we 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.040 were getting ready for the draft show. We were kind 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:10.280 of setting up on radio row. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:13.240 That'd be perfect for me, Like you said, it was 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:14.040 better than coffee. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.159 So but we they were walking around and me and 0:04:17.200 --> 0:04:19.320 Alex Lily so everything wrong. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.480 Happens whenever Alex is honestly truthful. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.840 Yeah, but we both grabbed two of them and we're like, oh, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:27.680 nice freeze trip cocktail. This is great and took a 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:29.719 big bite of it, enjoyed it had the flush of 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.640 the sinuses and everything like you're normally that normally do. 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.000 But then it was like seven thirty in the morning. 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.480 By like eight fifteen, the stomach just started grumbling. You 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:40.560 had the bubble guts. Oh it was not good. 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:42.680 Yeah, get me out, Yeah, get me out of there. 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.520 I'll tell We'll say a real quick story about Jerry. 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:48.000 And when you take the Scouts out to dinner. I'm 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:52.039 not a big wine guy and so but there was 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.920 a six thousand dollars bottle wine circling the table, and 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:59.040 I'll never forget. I'm like, the gentleman came by and goes, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:01.320 would you like some one? I sai, no, no, I'm good, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.960 thank you. Chris Hall looked at me, you know, and 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.520 scouting Chris goes, you might want to try a glass 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:09.440 at this. I go really, he goes, no, you need 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.360 to try a glass of this. I'm one of those 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.960 guys that can't tell the difference. So here I am 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.760 like a get a glass from six thousand dollars bottle 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.159 of wine, and I'm like, you know what, I guess 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:25.080 it's pretty good. You know, I really couldn't tell. I'm 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.200 not one of those guys that's kind of the expert 0:05:27.279 --> 0:05:30.720 of that. But Chris, Chris was nice enough to lean over. 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.680 He goes, you might want to try a glass of this, 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:34.960 and I'm like, all right, man, I appreciate that. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.040 So Team dinners are always fun. Brian's looking at Jerry. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:39.560 He's like did you get this from Trader Joe's. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.040 That was well, he had he. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.239 Had two had two bottles. He had two bottles circling 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:48.279 the table. And anytime you go to dinner with Jerry, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:51.120 you never look at the menu. He just orders everything 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:54.160 appetizer wise, is sitting in front of you and then 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.920 you can order what you want for the dinner. And 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.680 uh yeah, there's a lot of fun to that. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.960 Teams are great. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:05.920 Our team dinners are breakfast, tacos, yeah, doughnuts on draft. 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:09.000 Yrek takes us out afterwards. Does have nice job. 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:12.560 That's Jerry taking us out. That's a nice job. So yeah, 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:12.920 there you go. 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.880 Uh So, with all that being said, the combine is 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.159 now in the rearview mirror, the testing is done, the 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:21.239 medicals are done. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.080 What were the number one. 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:26.039 Things to come out of Indianapolis in your eyes? 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.200 Nick will start with you. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.320 As far as players. 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:29.320 Anything out. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.479 It could be workouts, it could be medicals, it could 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:32.320 be performance. 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.239 For me, one of the biggest takeaways is this receiver class. 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:35.560 Dude. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.400 I mean, I know we've talked about it a lot 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.359 and how many first round talents that there are, but 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:42.840 you see a week that sees Xavier worthy break the 0:06:42.880 --> 0:06:46.040 forty yard dash record, ad Mitchell laying down a three 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.480 four to three four, Brian Thomas Junior at the size 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.360 that he is putting down a four to three three, 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.840 it's it's gonna be. You're if if you're a team 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.200 looking for a receiver and you're picking that early second round, 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.560 you're gonna get a first round type talent. And I 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.960 think this receiver, class man, it's gonna do some special things. 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.600 We talked about Marvin Harrison Junior and elite neighbors up 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.520 top and men. Most of the conversations that I had 0:07:07.560 --> 0:07:09.760 we go back to that neighbors versus Harrison conversation that 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:10.320 we had a couple. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:12.200 Of weeks ago. A lot of guys really like neighbors too. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:14.000 It would not surprise me if he gets picked before 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:14.880 Harrison at this point. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:15.840 Yeah, but you. 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:20.760 Talked about Harrison, yes, yeow, Yeah, you talk about those 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:23.040 two guys, and then you look down to the Keon 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.960 Colemans and the Brian Thomas juniors and Xavier Worthy, ad 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:26.840 Mitchelllad McCaughey. 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:28.240 I mean, you could go down the list. 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:30.520 We were talking about Roman Wilson coming out of Senier Bowl, like, Hey, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.640 this is a partic late first round guy. Now we're 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.000 looking at like late second round because it's just there's 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:38.400 so much talent up top. The receiver class obviously really 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:42.200 strong from a Cowboys perspective. Meeting with a lot of 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:44.760 receivers last week, as far as formal meetings go. Obviously 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.520 met with a lot of offensive linemen as well, linebackers, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.760 defensive tackles. One of the biggest things that I was 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.640 able to pick up on was the emphasis on getting 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:55.520 bigger bodies. And it's not even it's not only at 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:58.040 the line of scrimmage and in the trenches. They're talking 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.400 about bigger bodies and the skill positions as well. You know, 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:01.800 they want to get a bigger back, they want to 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:05.440 get bigger receivers, they want they just want bigger size 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:08.200 on both sides of the ball. I think you'd be 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:11.040 hard pressed to find a scenario. We'll see how free 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.880 agency plays out. You'll be hard pressed to find a 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:15.840 scenario where the Cowboys don't go size size size in 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.960 the first two days. I think there's a realistic opportunity 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.080 where they get that tackle in the first round and 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.480 then they circle around to linebacker in defensive tackle on 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.720 Day two and then that's that's kind of what alleviates 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.040 your needs going into are coming out of the draft. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:31.559 Brian, what were your takeaways from Indy? 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:34.559 Yeah, I think the thing that maybe the most disturbing 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:38.559 thing was Caleb Williams not taking the physical because to me, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.560 the and I know it doesn't pertain to the Cowboys, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:44.520 but maybe in the future it does to others that 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:50.199 might take this route. I go to the combine because 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:52.719 I don't If you don't work out, I'm fine with that. 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:54.959 I really don't have a problem with you because I'll 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.680 figure out how to go to Baton Rouge or Columbus, Ohio, 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.880 or you know, or Los Ange Angelus to go watch 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:04.360 this kid throw. That doesn't bother me. But I need 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.959 your medical information if I'm going to make a determination. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.800 And I hope this doesn't set something up in the 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.840 future where other players say I'm not taking the physical. 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:16.199 I'm not going to let doctors look up. 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:17.360 We're already you know. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.400 When I first started scouting in the early nineties, we 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:23.120 got medical packets from schools that we went to. 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.200 If we went to USC, we would. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.640 Get a medical packet on these players. Players would sign 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.280 off and we would get that information, and so you 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:32.080 had it kind. 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:32.600 Of going in. 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:38.040 But my livelihood depends on me picking the best players, 0:09:38.280 --> 0:09:41.080 but the healthiest players that I could pick. And if 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.520 I don't have that medical information on you, now, if 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:47.200 you're one of those teams like the Commanders and New 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.000 England and all those teams the Giants are talking about 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.760 trading up for a quarterback, has Caleb Williams set himself 0:09:53.840 --> 0:09:56.760 up for having to turn teams down on visits? 0:09:57.040 --> 0:09:57.240 You know? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.080 Is that going to be the next thing that he does. Oh, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:02.200 I'm not going to visit you Commanders. No, I'm not 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:07.880 going to visit you Giants or Patriots. So it just 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.840 I hope we're not going into a trend where the 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:16.160 medicals now are taken away from my ability to kind 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.840 of to put this puzzle together. That was something that 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:21.160 was very concerning to me coming out of the combine. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:23.640 Yeah, and his reasoning for that, he said he didn't 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:26.360 feel like all thirty two teams needed his medical information. 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:28.760 Yeah, And he said, whenever he does take. 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:30.960 Those top thirty visits, he will be doing medicals at 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.560 bad point, so he see where you're coming from. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:36.880 Though, his thirty visit will be spent and Let's be honest. 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:40.040 This isn't call and turn your head. You know this 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.000 isn't this isn't that type of physical right, We're going 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:45.440 to put you in an MRI too. We have figured 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.000 out by going to the combine, we found guys with 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:51.360 heart conditions, we found guys with bad backs, we found 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.760 guys with bad feet, bad knees. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.520 Kola A McKinstry coming out with a foot fracture that 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.680 teams are concerned will take him into training camp. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.400 There's no question about that. At the running back Dylan 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.280 Johnson from Washington, what he was dealing with, you know, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.199 he ran a very slow forty and you're thinking, well, 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.240 he plays much faster and that will maybe he's dealing 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.040 with this foot injury. To me, like I say, I'm 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.240 going to bring this quarterback in on a thirty visit, 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.320 and the majority of my thirty visit is going to 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:21.640 be spent getting him a complete physical. And I want 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:23.880 the opportunity to visit with the kid. I want the 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.880 opportunity to hang out with him and talk to him 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.600 and all that. And but now half my day, maybe 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.040 my whole day, is going to be spent getting him 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.880 a physical. And you know that that's that's not where 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:37.640 this is supposed to work. You know, it's you know, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:41.000 that's the there's reasons the doctors and MRI two. The 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.120 reason they have it in Indianapolis is they have some 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:46.640 of the best hospitals in the world right there, best 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.800 equipment right there to get all that done. And I 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.199 sound like I get off the lawn guy, but as 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:55.199 a scout, I'm I'm. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.520 Troubled by that type of approach. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:01.640 Yeh interesting, I mean, y'all said it all. I mean, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.640 I'm I agree with Nick as far as the fact 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:07.400 that you know, this wide receiver class is deep. It 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.360 sounded like even just kind of watching the Twitter streets 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:13.040 and stuff, I follow some folks that cover other teams 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.560 and getting bigger is important, and this class has a 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:20.720 lot of even some of the dts are you appreciate 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:24.040 the athleticism, but there isn't a whole bunch of like 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:25.559 just size in here. 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.120 There's a lot of tweeners in between guys. 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.720 And then also too with the dns, it's a similar situation. 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:33.760 How do y'all feel about the fact that. 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.120 This it feels like that front seven is starting to 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.360 get smaller as we look at the draft this last 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:44.520 couple of years in particular, that's one of the big 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:47.439 things that I noticed. And so that when you say 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:50.000 they're gonna go bigger, it's like, well, there's not that 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.160 many big humans in this draft, you know what I'm saying, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:54.000 Like you might have to go free agency. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.400 Of course, I always really appreciated my time covering recruiting 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:59.400 because it kind of gives you an opportunity to look 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.000 at what trends could be going towards, and not only 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.720 in college football, because if it works at the college 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.640 football level, typically they try to translate into the NFL level. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:11.160 And you look at about ten years ago, the idea 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:16.120 of identifying guys that have positional versatility, and this guy 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.000 might have less talent than this guy over here that 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:21.440 is just a true Mike linebacker. They're gonna take that 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:23.199 guy with versatility because they want to see what he 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:24.280 can do in multiple spots. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:26.120 And I think that worked at the college level. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.920 You've seen what it does, and it's translated to the 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.560 NFL level and we've seen that manifest and defense. 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:32.079 It's like Dan Quinn's a perfect example. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.720 And I think as a downside of that, you're gonna 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.920 get smaller guys because they're gonna have to be in 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.959 different positions. Now, for me personally, what this defense does 0:13:41.040 --> 0:13:43.280 need it needs a guy that can play a position, 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.280 a guy that can sit there right at zero or 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.719 one tech and be able to stop the run at 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.880 Mike linebacker that can sit there in the second level 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:52.400 and stop the run. Those big bodies, because they have 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.040 that versatility around the board. They have the Demarvin Overstones, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.800 they have the Micah Parsons. I think there's a big 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.200 need on this team specifically to go get those true 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:03.560 position guys. But I see where you're coming from, because 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.040 the positional flex has moved guys, has made the game 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.400 smaller in general over the course of the last decade. 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.839 In my opinion, it's funny because I remember what we're 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:14.600 almost a decade ago that Shaq Thompson got picked. Yeah, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:16.880 and when Shaq Thompson was coming out, it was a 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.280 big discussion point that he's a two hundred twenty eight 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.640 pound linebacker. How's he going to function at the next level. Now, 0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:24.080 two hundred twenty eight pound linebacker does not sound that 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.440 outrageous or that different. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.760 And I remember I had talked about. 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.440 This with somebody in personnel circles outside of Dallas a 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.240 couple of years ago, where they were saying that when 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:38.040 you look at linebacker forty times and some of these 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:40.320 ridiculous forty times that are almost equal to some of 0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:43.480 the running backs that are out there, that what they 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.720 said was if you start, you know, if defense is 0:14:45.720 --> 0:14:47.680 in reaction to the passing game and everything else, we're 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:49.560 trying to get lighter and quicker, and you create an 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.120 entire league full of light front seven players, then what 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.600 offenses are going to start doing is they're going to 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.920 start developing these bigger monsters at the offensive line, which 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.920 we saw a lot of an Indie last week. Yeah, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.920 and then the power run game is going to make 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:04.480 a comeback. You're going to start seeing offensive lines that 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.000 are one hundred pounds heavier than the front seven just 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.920 rolling over people, and that that'll be the next direction 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.080 it takes. So I think that that's part of it, 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.960 is that it's just the natural cycle of you know, 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.320 reacting to what the latest trends are, and it'll just. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.640 Yeah, keep going. I think I think you're absolutely right. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.480 I think defensive coordinators in college have had to adjust 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.200 to the spread offense. Yeah, and then what happens when 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:28.400 you're having to adjust the spread. You're taking players that 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.040 might have been running backs and making them defensive ends. 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.440 You're you're making rush guys. You know, maybe you're taking 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.160 other positions. And in the NFL, where do we get 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.600 our players from college football? And so that's the issue 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:44.040 that we're dealing with right now. But you're right, you know, 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.080 guys like as time is, I think it's write the 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:52.960 Notre Dame running back. You know, allen big physical running backs. 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.920 You better be able to ready to handle downhill runners 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.760 in this in this league nowadays because people are going 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.760 to every one of these offensive tackles. We talk about 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:06.320 it like there's six seven, they're three hundred and forty, 0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:08.840 they're three hundred and sixty, they're three hundred and fifty. 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.280 I mean they're huge guys. So you better figure out 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.360 how you're going to handle teams that are going to 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.600 play with size and physical running backs. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.480 Yeah, just with the way the game is changing, it 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.320 feels like it's changing on a dime. But right now, 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.240 in this specific NFL landscape, give me size over speed. 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:24.480 You've seen those teams. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:26.040 Let's look at the teams that were in the championship 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:30.640 games San Francisco, Detroit, Baltimore, Kansas City, all those teams 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:34.120 size over speed, and y'all can disagree if you'll feel. 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.080 Anyway, maybe that was what he said. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.880 Maybe Chiefs are like one exception, but you look across 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.600 the board and there's an overwhelming discrepancy between size and speed. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:44.800 And that's that's what this team needs. It needs a 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.280 lot more size and not not less speed, but it 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:48.280 needs a lot more size. 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.200 Yeah, which I mean the running backs that you guys 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:53.480 had worked to get. See what formals the Cowboys had 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.560 running back. It's Trey Benson, It's Ray Davis, it's odd 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:57.960 your estimate, it's you. 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.280 As to okay, and. 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.720 Then Braylan Allen. And so it's just like you you 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:05.440 look at the running backs that they're talking to. They're 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.240 talking to these backs that they clearly feel like they 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.240 missed a power element in their backfield. 0:17:10.280 --> 0:17:12.800