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Speaker 2: Today is Tuesday, March fifth, and we are officially fifty

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Speaker 2: one days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Time is dwindling and it's time to investigate and educate

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Speaker 3: We've got a.

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Speaker 2: Full house again today as everybody's back from the combine,

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Speaker 2: back from different road trips throughout, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: a phenomenal hour talking about draft prospects with Bobby Belt,

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris, Brian Protess, Aisha Morrison. I'm Kyle Yellman's glad

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Speaker 2: you're with us, and it's been quite the week. And

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Speaker 2: I have to start the show by giving all sorts

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Speaker 2: of props to mister Nick Harris, who was out in

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Speaker 2: Indianapolis yes.

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Speaker 3: This past week, did a great job. First round draft pick.

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Speaker 4: Guys, I do how was it? It was fun?

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: It was the first combine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was my first combine, first time in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 6: all the way around.

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Speaker 3: It was.

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Speaker 7: It was a really good experience.

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Speaker 6: Got there early Tuesday morning and was going at it

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Speaker 6: until I got back at midnight on Saturday, and it

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Speaker 6: was a it was a good time, man, really good time.

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Speaker 3: What was your favorite part?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, my face almost imploding at Saint Elmo's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay about shrip cocktail.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, They tried to tell me. I just didn't.

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Speaker 7: I took it differently.

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Speaker 6: So I went with Alex Lively, one of our great

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Speaker 6: videographers here, and he was like, yeah, man, that.

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Speaker 7: Shrip cocktail is pretty good. You gotta be careful, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I'm thinking like, oh, okay, I gotta be careful because

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Speaker 6: it's really good, you know, like you're gonna eat a

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Speaker 6: lot of it. And then I'm on the phone with

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Speaker 6: Nick Eatman right as the trimp cocktail gets placed right

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Speaker 6: in front of me, and I'm like, oh, well, I

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Speaker 6: just got this shrimp cocktail.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna try it out.

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Speaker 3: Nick.

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Speaker 6: He says the same thing. He's like, oh man, I

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Speaker 6: be careful with that. I'm like, I take it the

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Speaker 6: same way. I'm like, oh, okay, it's really good trip cocktail.

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Speaker 3: Everybody want me to be careful with this thing?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not.

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Speaker 6: It was more so like, okay, so this is gonna

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Speaker 6: a big fat bite, like on my first bite thing

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Speaker 6: want to get it good. I eat the whole shrimp

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Speaker 6: with everything on it, and for the viewers, it's basically

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Speaker 6: like layered and horse radish, but there's a cocktail sauce

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Speaker 6: So I'm seeing like a ton of cocktail sauce and

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Speaker 6: I'm like, oh man, this is gonna be great because

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Speaker 6: I love cocktail sauce.

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Speaker 7: I bite the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: And I was really exhausted by this point of the

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Speaker 6: the first night we had got there, didn't get good

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Speaker 6: sleep the night before, and my face almost like imploded.

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Speaker 7: I thought I was about to have like a stroke

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Speaker 7: right there in the middle of Saint Almost you know

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Speaker 4: It was. It was taxing.

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Speaker 8: You have something in common with Jeff Lurry, the owner

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Speaker 8: with the Eagles.

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Speaker 7: That's great.

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Speaker 8: So we did the same thing, and we forgot to

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Speaker 8: tell him though we didn't tell him. You know, we

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Speaker 8: just assumed that everybody at the table knows that. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: you take a cracker, you dip it in the cocktail

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Speaker 8: a little bitty bite of the shrimp, yeah you cut it.

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Speaker 8: And Jeff Lurry did the same thing, and literally I

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he stopped and his face would flush and I'm like,

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Speaker 8: horse reddish sauce. But it is something you absolutely have

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I immediately started crying, like it was. It was

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Speaker 6: It's better than coffee like that. That's that's that's what.

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Speaker 4: Great meal, they said.

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Speaker 9: I remember last year there was a column from the

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Speaker 9: is that he'd give them the cocktail sauce and not

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Speaker 7: That's that's something I would do.

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Speaker 4: Ye like this year, Yes, this year is Jerry.

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Speaker 3: This cheery is good at paid for dinner though too

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Speaker 3: there is only one Jerry, just letting you know, good

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Speaker 2: The worst mistake I ever made, and it also involved

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Speaker 2: saying Elmo's Cockit cocktail sauce. They brought it around on

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Speaker 2: these trays to the convention center. Yeah, but they did

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Speaker 3: That'd be perfect for me, Like you said, it was

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Speaker 2: So but we they were walking around and me and

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Speaker 2: Alex Lily so everything wrong.

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Speaker 7: Happens whenever Alex is honestly truthful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we both grabbed two of them and we're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: nice freeze trip cocktail. This is great and took a

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Speaker 2: But then it was like seven thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 2: By like eight fifteen, the stomach just started grumbling. You

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Speaker 7: Yeah, get me out, Yeah, get me out of there.

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Speaker 8: I'll tell We'll say a real quick story about Jerry.

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Speaker 8: And when you take the Scouts out to dinner. I'm

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Speaker 2: So Team dinners are always fun. Brian's looking at Jerry.

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Speaker 4: That was well, he had he.

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Speaker 8: Had two had two bottles. He had two bottles circling

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Speaker 8: the table. And anytime you go to dinner with Jerry,

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Speaker 8: appetizer wise, is sitting in front of you and then

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Speaker 3: Teams are great.

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Speaker 2: Our team dinners are breakfast, tacos, yeah, doughnuts on draft.

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Speaker 3: Yrek takes us out afterwards. Does have nice job.

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Speaker 8: That's Jerry taking us out. That's a nice job. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: Uh So, with all that being said, the combine is

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Speaker 3: What were the number one.

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Speaker 2: Things to come out of Indianapolis in your eyes?

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Speaker 3: Nick will start with you.

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Speaker 7: As far as players.

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Speaker 3: Anything out.

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Speaker 2: It could be workouts, it could be medicals, it could

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Speaker 7: For me, one of the biggest takeaways is this receiver class.

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Speaker 10: Dude.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I know we've talked about it a lot

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Speaker 6: and how many first round talents that there are, but

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Speaker 6: you see a week that sees Xavier worthy break the

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Speaker 6: that he is putting down a four to three three,

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Speaker 6: it's it's gonna be. You're if if you're a team

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Speaker 6: looking for a receiver and you're picking that early second round,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna get a first round type talent. And I

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Speaker 6: think this receiver, class man, it's gonna do some special things.

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Speaker 6: We talked about Marvin Harrison Junior and elite neighbors up

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Speaker 6: we go back to that neighbors versus Harrison conversation that

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Speaker 7: Of weeks ago. A lot of guys really like neighbors too.

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Speaker 6: It would not surprise me if he gets picked before

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Speaker 6: Talked about Harrison, yes, yeow, Yeah, you talk about those

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Speaker 6: We were talking about Roman Wilson coming out of Senier Bowl, like, Hey,

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Speaker 6: looking at like late second round because it's just there's

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Speaker 6: so much talent up top. The receiver class obviously really

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Speaker 6: strong from a Cowboys perspective. Meeting with a lot of

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Speaker 6: defensive tackles. One of the biggest things that I was

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Speaker 6: they want to get a bigger back, they want to

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Speaker 6: get bigger receivers, they want they just want bigger size

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Speaker 6: on both sides of the ball. I think you'd be

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Speaker 6: hard pressed to find a scenario. We'll see how free

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Speaker 6: agency plays out. You'll be hard pressed to find a

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Speaker 6: scenario where the Cowboys don't go size size size in

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Speaker 6: the first two days. I think there's a realistic opportunity

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Speaker 6: where they get that tackle in the first round and

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Speaker 6: then they circle around to linebacker in defensive tackle on

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Speaker 6: Day two and then that's that's kind of what alleviates

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Speaker 6: your needs going into are coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 3: Brian, what were your takeaways from Indy?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think the thing that maybe the most disturbing

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Speaker 8: thing was Caleb Williams not taking the physical because to me,

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Speaker 8: the and I know it doesn't pertain to the Cowboys,

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Speaker 8: but maybe in the future it does to others that

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Speaker 8: might take this route. I go to the combine because

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Speaker 8: I don't If you don't work out, I'm fine with that.

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Speaker 8: I really don't have a problem with you because I'll

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Speaker 8: figure out how to go to Baton Rouge or Columbus, Ohio,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and his reasoning for that, he said he didn't

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And he said, whenever he does take.

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Speaker 8: Though, his thirty visit will be spent and Let's be honest.

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Speaker 8: There's no question about that. At the running back Dylan

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Speaker 3: Troubled by that type of approach.

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Speaker 11: Yeh interesting, I mean, y'all said it all. I mean,

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Speaker 10: There's a lot of tweeners in between guys.

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Speaker 11: And then also too with the dns, it's a similar situation.

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Speaker 10: How do y'all feel about the fact that.

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Speaker 11: This it feels like that front seven is starting to

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Speaker 11: Like you might have to go free agency.

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Speaker 6: Of course, I always really appreciated my time covering recruiting

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Speaker 6: And you look at about ten years ago, the idea

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Speaker 7: And I think that worked at the college level.

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Speaker 6: You've seen what it does, and it's translated to the

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Speaker 7: It's like Dan Quinn's a perfect example.

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Speaker 6: And I think as a downside of that, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: different positions. Now, for me personally, what this defense does

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Speaker 9: In my opinion, it's funny because I remember what we're

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Speaker 4: And I remember I had talked about.

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Speaker 9: This with somebody in personnel circles outside of Dallas a

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Speaker 9: said was if you start, you know, if defense is

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Speaker 9: we saw a lot of an Indie last week. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, keep going. I think I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 8: I think defensive coordinators in college have had to adjust

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Speaker 8: You're you're making rush guys. You know, maybe you're taking

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Speaker 8: Notre Dame running back. You know, allen big physical running backs.

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Speaker 8: You better be able to ready to handle downhill runners

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Speaker 8: it like there's six seven, they're three hundred and forty,

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Speaker 8: they're three hundred and sixty, they're three hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 8: I mean they're huge guys. So you better figure out

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just with the way the game is changing, it

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Speaker 7: You've seen those teams.

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Speaker 6: Let's look at the teams that were in the championship

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Speaker 7: Anyway, maybe that was what he said.

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Speaker 6: Maybe Chiefs are like one exception, but you look across

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Speaker 6: And that's that's what this team needs. It needs a

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Speaker 9: Yeah, which I mean the running backs that you guys

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Speaker 9: your estimate, it's you.

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Speaker 3: As to okay, and.

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Speaker 9: Then Braylan Allen. And so it's just like you you

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Speaker 6: Last I would expect in free agency the Cowboys to

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Speaker 2: Well, when we come back, you talked about guys that

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna hit guys that earned a double back, earned

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Speaker 2: there's so much to catch up on with the NFL Combine.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to take a look at the guys that

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Speaker 2: earned your second look. I shall start with you.

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Speaker 3: Out of the combine performances.

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Speaker 2: Did anybody catch your eye and say, I've got to

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Speaker 2: go back and look.

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Speaker 11: Logan Lee DT out of Iowa. I so when I

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Speaker 11: first watched him, I mean, obviously, I don't know if

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Speaker 11: people know you mentioned you mentioned it, Brian, the fact

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Speaker 11: that this was a tie end converted to DT, so

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Speaker 11: again talk about the need of whatever. Anyway, I was

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Speaker 11: looking at him, and I remember the first time I

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Speaker 11: watched him, I liked his build.

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Speaker 10: I was like, oh, this is an interesting player.

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Speaker 11: But seeing him tests and some of the later agility,

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Speaker 11: I was like, Okay, okay, maybe I do need to

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Speaker 11: go back and watch him now. I did see him

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Speaker 11: at the Senior Bowl. He stuck out a couple times

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Speaker 11: in one on ones. He has some burst off the line.

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Speaker 11: But I feel like I might need to go back

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Speaker 11: and look at him because I think he understands leverage.

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Speaker 10: He's a former wrestler.

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Speaker 11: People talk about his leadership and what he's capable of,

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Speaker 11: but he's explosive, and I just think I need to

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Speaker 11: go back and watch him again.

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Speaker 10: Actually I did.

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Speaker 11: And the only thing that you know, people might worry

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Speaker 11: about is the fact that he is very raw, Like

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Speaker 11: he didn't convert to a GT until twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 11: if I'm not mistaken, so he still is learning the position.

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Speaker 11: But I think if you pair him next to a bigger,

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Speaker 11: you know, one tech type thing like he's, he's gonna

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Speaker 11: cost some issues with how explosive he is off the

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Speaker 11: line of scrimmage and how he can really change direction

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Speaker 11: quickly as well. So that's a gentleman that I felt like,

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Speaker 11: uh deserves a second look, and maybe teams will be

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Speaker 11: interested in him despite the fact that he's wrong.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, an interesting thing with Logan Lee is about he's

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Speaker 6: going to have to add size or weight that two

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Speaker 6: hundred and eighty pounds. He came in at two eighty

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Speaker 6: one at the combine, which is actually a big, big

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Speaker 6: h improvement from what he was playing at in Iowa.

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Speaker 6: I think he was probably just from what I see

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Speaker 6: on tape, probably closer to sixty five at Iowa at

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Speaker 6: the end of the season. But if he can, if

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Speaker 6: he can push closer to three hundred, then you know,

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Speaker 6: we're not talking about, you know, truly, you know, a

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Speaker 6: three tech, because I think that was kind of where

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Speaker 6: it was pushing. And it was even like there was

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Speaker 6: some teams talking about five tech with him, just because yes,

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Speaker 6: he has that athleticism, he has that explosion, But where

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Speaker 6: does that kind of translate inside If you're two hundred

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Speaker 6: and eighty pounds or two hundred and sixty five pounds

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Speaker 6: and now being two hundred eighty pounds and adding some

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Speaker 6: more weight, I think it's going to allow him to

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Speaker 6: be able to, you know, have that, but how does

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Speaker 6: that explosion still translate? Yeah, you have that much weight.

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Speaker 6: That's always it's always a concern, and I know teams

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Speaker 6: are really weary about put weight on guys all at

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Speaker 6: once because then you're talking about injury concerns as well,

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Speaker 6: because you try to pair that athleticism with that weight

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, his situation may be a subjective

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Speaker 2: one because I've seen him as high as the fifth round.

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Speaker 2: I've seen him as low as an undrafted free agent,

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Speaker 2: So it.

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Speaker 3: May be midday three.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about Logan Lee coming off the board, and

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Speaker 2: that's a value pick for some of these teams that

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Speaker 2: want some speed up front, because he's not going to

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Speaker 2: jump off the page from a from an athleticism standpoint,

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Speaker 2: But like you said, the lateral ability helps him take

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Speaker 2: up multiple gaps.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, No, I mean, like I said, he's just he

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Speaker 11: fits the bill for the question. He's somebody that is

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Speaker 11: worth taking a second look and seeing, you know, maybe

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Speaker 11: a team being like we can develop in and see

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Speaker 11: what he can do, like I said, next to a

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Speaker 11: heavysetter guy, because I feel like he could cause problems

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Speaker 11: and maybe draw some double teams with his speed.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, Brian, who you got to double

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Speaker 3: back on?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I.

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Speaker 8: Correct me if I'm wrong here, But I'm never really

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Speaker 8: been a big fan of Patrick Paul from Houston right

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Speaker 8: off the jump, and I felt like that I didn't

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Speaker 8: feel like he really had. I loved the size, the length,

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Speaker 8: I don't know if the true athletic ability there. He

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Speaker 8: tested much better than I even thought he was going

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Speaker 8: to test, and so to me, I probably need to

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Speaker 8: go back and look at that. I come from an

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Speaker 8: era though, where my tape eyes. I usually feel like

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Speaker 8: if I've got him right, that my first inclination of

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Speaker 8: the player is the right one. But the fact that

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Speaker 8: he tested pretty well, I feel like that I probably

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Speaker 8: need to go back and give him a second look,

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Speaker 8: maybe find some other tapes, see if.

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Speaker 3: There's some things are different.

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Speaker 8: I watched him plague in San Antonio, Texas Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 8: I didn't feel like he was a very good athlete,

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Speaker 8: and but the way he tested I think probably needs

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Speaker 8: for me to go back and look at him. But

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Speaker 8: I don't. I'm just I wasn't a big fan of

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Speaker 8: the player, and so maybe maybe I'm right about that

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Speaker 8: or maybe I'm really really wrong, But at least the

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Speaker 8: fact that he tested a little bit better, I probably

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Speaker 8: need to.

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Speaker 3: Go look at him.

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Speaker 2: Ninetieth percentile in both height and weight. He listed at

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Speaker 2: six foot a three hundred and thirty one pounds. His

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Speaker 2: forty was a seventy six percent tile, so very good,

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Speaker 2: forty five point one three, and then his wingspan was

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Speaker 2: in the ninety third percentile, and he had an eighty

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Speaker 2: six and three quarter wingspan, which is tops in the class.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think if there was a mid to

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Speaker 2: late round second round, the second, second round lineman that

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Speaker 2: Dallas would be interested in. It might be a pall

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Speaker 2: if they don't get somebody in the first and they

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Speaker 2: look at him in the second round.

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Speaker 3: I think he would be a huge piece.

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Speaker 8: See, I don't have him as like a second even

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Speaker 8: the second round player.

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Speaker 3: What do you have him at third round? You had

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Speaker 3: him as well? So based off of film alone, just

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Speaker 3: off film.

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Speaker 8: Alone, I just I mean, I think he was a

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Speaker 8: tall player. He tends to play that way. I didn't

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Speaker 8: think he really bent his knees. I didn't think he

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Speaker 8: could sit down on defenders. I thought he was off balanced.

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Speaker 8: I thought he had struggled with movement. You know, I

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Speaker 8: think he's got a great chance of blocking defenders when

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Speaker 8: they're straight down the middle. But I did not see

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Speaker 8: a guy that that. I was just jumping up and

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Speaker 8: down about just because, like say, the three games I watched,

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Speaker 8: it seemed like it was more of a struggle for

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Speaker 8: him than it was a lot of positivity.

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Speaker 3: But probably three games again, uh.

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Speaker 8: Ut, San Antonio, Texas Oklahoma State three, I'll watch so Texas.

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Speaker 2: Of course you bring the defensive line. Yeah, of sweat

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Speaker 2: and Murphy. It's the ends and stuff that he's dealing

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Speaker 2: with there. But I again, there's a couple of players

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Speaker 2: in this draft. Again, Turner, the way he tested from Alabama.

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Speaker 2: You know, you kind of knew that was going to happen,

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Speaker 2: but the film doesn't always show him making plays like

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Speaker 2: his testing numbers showed. So that's the struggle you go

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Speaker 2: through when you're sitting in that room. Is that And

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Speaker 2: I really love watching tape, It's one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: things to do. And but when guys work out and

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Speaker 2: I kind of like, Okay, that's part of it. But

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Speaker 2: you see that translate into how they play, and some

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Speaker 2: of these guys it does like worthy.

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Speaker 3: You could see plays.

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Speaker 8: Fast wide received from Texas, but some of these other

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Speaker 8: guys I probably need to circle back on and kind

627
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Speaker 8: of figure that out.

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Speaker 2: Nick, you had an opinion on Patrick Paull earlier, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: in the campaign. What are your thoughts on him now?

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Speaker 6: Seeing How funny because me and Zach Walschik had a

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Speaker 6: conversation right after I got off the flight on Saturday

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Speaker 6: night and we spent probably five to ten minutes talking

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Speaker 6: about Patrick Paul.

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Speaker 7: I love the traits there. I do have the same.

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Speaker 6: Athleticism concerns, but I put a second round, a late

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Speaker 6: second round.

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Speaker 7: Out then because of those traits in.

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Speaker 3: His I understand it.

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Speaker 4: His violence.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's powerful.

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Speaker 6: You get him in the right development program, I think

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Speaker 6: there's an opportunity for him to make some things happen there.

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Speaker 6: I haven't always loved the ability of that previous Houston

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Speaker 6: staff to develop guys outside of the skill positions. I

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Speaker 6: think Dania Holgerson and his staff has always done a

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Speaker 6: really good job of developing skill positions and putting out

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Speaker 6: a QUARTERBA every once in a while Cogino Smith. But

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Speaker 6: I think whenever it's talking about big guys, they haven't

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Speaker 6: really done a good good job recruiting them a and

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Speaker 6: be developing them. I think Patrick Paul, you put him

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Speaker 6: in an opportunity or a situation where he can be

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Speaker 6: developed a little bit and give him a year or two,

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be all right. I'm not thinking he's

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Speaker 6: maybe a Pro Bowl type guy, but I think he

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Speaker 6: can be a plus starter over the course.

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Speaker 8: Of which you guys can sumer at twenty four. No, no, okay,

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Speaker 8: Son fifty six.

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Speaker 2: Here's my one thing on twenty four. It's been two

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Speaker 2: years in a row, and I've told you this story

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Speaker 2: before that I was out in Indy, Tyler Smith's name

661
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: came up a couple times twenty twenty two, Tyler Smith,

662
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: Tyler Smith. I was like, Okay, that'd be a great

663
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: pick in the middle of the second round. I love

664
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: that idea, Like it's middle of the second that's great.

665
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: He ends up being the first round pick. Last year,

666
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: Mazzie Smith's name continue to come up in conversations and

667
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: just getting to have that same thing traits development, same

668
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: thing that you're talking about. You put him in the situation,

669
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: and then you're able to get him to develop into

670
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: the player you want him to be. I was like, great,

671
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: sounds good middle second round. Great, Yeah, he's the first

672
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: round pack. So don't discount Patrick Paul at twenty four.

673
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: If the trades line up to what they think about

674
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: it across the.

675
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: Hallway, can I say something absolutely?

676
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 10: I don't.

677
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 11: It's interesting that you talk about how violent you feel

678
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 11: like he plays Nick Nick because I don't think that

679
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 11: he's consistently the aggressor.

680
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 10: I didn't.

681
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 11: I didn't see that consistently from him. And I also too,

682
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 11: I feel like his hand placement is inconsistent as well.

683
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 11: His punch is powerful, but it's not always on the money.

684
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 11: And if I'm not mistaken, he is a former boxer.

685
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 11: Do you guys think that has anything to do with

686
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 11: the lack of bend.

687
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 8: I think I think he's just at six seven. I

688
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 8: think it's hard for him some of these guys to bend.

689
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 10: That's fair.

690
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 8: I think it's you know, it's funny you say about

691
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 8: the hands. I said, I felt like he was a

692
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 8: walking holding Penley with how much he misses with his hands.

693
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like Tyler Smith.

694
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 10: It's not consistent.

695
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: Well, Tyler Smith's a hell of a player.

696
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 11: He has the footwork to recover. It helps him out

697
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 11: because the footwork is there. It's the hand placement that

698
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 11: I didn't like all the time. So I don't know.

699
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 11: I I think he, to your point, is a good

700
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 11: developmental player, but I didn't even I think he's a

701
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 11: late second round maybe early third round. But you're gonna

702
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 11: have to work with him on this technique stuff because

703
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 11: the traits are there. But I just I don't see

704
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 11: it consistently.

705
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 9: If if we're in the no that I was just

706
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 9: gonna say, Like when I was writing down my notes,

707
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 9: I was like I had written in there that Patrick

708
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 9: Paul reminds me of a baby giraffe.

709
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 4: Like he's like he's got these long lens that he

710
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: just he doesn't know how to use.

711
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I use that like once a year in my scouting.

712
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 4: It looks like it.

713
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 9: It's just like, I mean like that he's not He's

714
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 9: still just trying to figure out hand usage. And you

715
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 9: know there's they're still trying to figure out the footwork.

716
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 9: I think that he's he doesn't strike me as somebody

717
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 9: who's timid. I think he's got like the I think

718
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 9: he's got that killer instinct. I think he's got the

719
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 9: competitive toughness. It's just I don't think he knows how

720
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 9: to use what he has right now.

721
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 4: Killer draft, yeah, killer giraft.

722
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: So but the thing is you terrifying.

723
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 10: At the next level.

724
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 11: Yeah, they can get coaching, but it's it's still they're limited, right,

725
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 11: And how much I mean, I know these guys here

726
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 11: they go work with, do they go do all this

727
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 11: extra stuff with as far as on a team level,

728
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 11: how much are you going to be able to just

729
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 11: work that work that Because he does come off as

730
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 11: somewhat raw even though he's playing.

731
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, he's no more raw He's not the

732
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 9: athlete that Tyler Smith was, but he's no more raw

733
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 9: to me than Tyler Smith's face. And and that's the

734
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 9: thing is that they had to do work and figure

735
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 9: out like, Okay, does he have the coach ability, does

736
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 9: he have the you know, mental process and other things

737
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 9: to take this and grow from it? And they through

738
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 9: their research said yeah, we got this. Like they're doing

739
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 9: background research. So if they if they determined that about

740
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 9: Patrick Paul, I'm gonna trust him because they've hit on

741
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 9: these sort of things before. I just I can't know that,

742
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 9: and so I just have to grade what I see

743
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 9: right now, which is somebody who's got a really impressive

744
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 9: frame and competitive toche.

745
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 8: That's why I feel like you need to circle back,

746
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 8: you know, mean the workout, and I respect what you're saying, Nick.

747
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 3: I really really do.

748
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 8: I I'm not gonna lie though, if somebody else takes him,

749
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 8: I'm probably gonna be pretty happy. I'm just gonna I mean,

750
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say, hey, you know, to me, I I

751
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 8: think there are other guys that I kind of have

752
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 8: ahead of him that I would like. And maybe I'm

753
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 8: wrong about those guys. But uh, but to your point

754
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 8: about the development part. You know, I'm kind of thinking

755
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 8: about development part here. Where are we at with you know,

756
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 8: awesome Richards, you know, where are we at with that?

757
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 3: Where's the development with that? You know? And so that

758
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: those are things.

759
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 8: That kind of make me a little nervous when we

760
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 8: start to talk about they're good at drafting plug and

761
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 8: play guys. Though maybe this guy's plug and play, you know,

762
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 8: maybe he is Nick who.

763
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 4: Is your guy?

764
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'll give you, oddly enough another day two

765
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 6: offensive lineman that you could potentially be looking at as

766
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 6: a as a tackle option if they don't get that

767
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 6: tackle in the first round. Joe Alt gets all the

768
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 6: love at Notre Dame up front, and deservedly.

769
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 5: So.

770
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: I mean he's he's technical, he's a bit big, big body,

771
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 6: he's athletic, he does a lot of things well. To me,

772
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 6: he's he's tackled one in this class. You look on

773
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 6: the other side of that offensive line for the Fighting

774
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 6: Irish this past season, you see Blake Fisher and six

775
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 6: foot five, three hundred and ten pounds is what he

776
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: weighed in at UH in Indianapolis. Forty yard five two vertical,

777
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 6: twenty eight broad jump, nine to six. It's it's not

778
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: athleticism that will blow you off of a blow off

779
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 6: the charts. And I think that's always been his big

780
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 6: ast concern is how does this size kind of translate athletically.

781
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 6: But when it comes to I love putting together like

782
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 6: a mental all lobby team because whenever guys come in

783
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 6: and you see their physical frame, you're like wow, Like

784
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 6: that's that is a professional football player.

785
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 2: You all lobby like you walk into the hotel lobby.

786
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

787
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 6: And Amarius Mims is easily like the all lobby god

788
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 6: of this class. I mean he's he's incredible at six

789
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 6: foot eight, you know whatever. But you look at Blake Fisher,

790
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 6: he would be on that all lobby team for me.

791
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 6: He looks awesome. He's physically put together. Mentally he's put

792
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 6: together as well. Had a formal meeting with the Cowboys

793
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 6: last week. I've heard nothing but good things about Blake

794
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 6: Fisher since his draft process has started, but this past

795
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 6: week in Indianapolis and being able to kind of at

796
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 6: least show the athleticism that he does have. I mean,

797
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: the nine to six broad job was third amongst all

798
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 6: offensive tackles, and when you talk about that kind of

799
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 6: get off off the line. I think there's an opportunity

800
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 6: for Blake Fisher to be really good at the next levels.

801
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: He's really stiff with his upper body. That's what I

802
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 6: kind of came away with on film. He plays with

803
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 6: like this super high pad level, which is like, it's

804
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 6: very strange. It's even higher than some of the guys

805
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 6: that you would think of that play well with the

806
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 6: high pad level at the NFL level. But I think

807
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 6: if that can translate to the NFL side of things

808
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 6: and being able to kind of overpower more athletic defensive

809
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 6: defensive lineman, I think there's an opportunity to do that

810
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 6: with him still, because that was the biggest concern I

811
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 6: had going into India's Like, Okay, I know that he

812
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 6: can take on the power pass rights. I don't have

813
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: a problem with that. I saw him do that against

814
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 6: Penn State. I saw him do that against Ohio State.

815
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 6: I want to see him against a athletic guy like

816
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 6: an Adeisa Isaac where maybe he did have a kind

817
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 6: of a couple of opportunities where he didn't shine. Shine

818
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 6: is bright. I have a little bit more confidence coming

819
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 6: out of this week. That's why I double back on

820
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 6: Blake Fisher. I think he's gonna be a guy that

821
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 6: if the Cowboys don't get a tackle in the first round,

822
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 6: I think you're looking at round three, that's an opportunity

823
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 6: to grab a guy like Blake Fisher.

824
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: You think he lasts till round three?

825
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 6: I think so, Really, I think so. I think he's

826
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 6: probably there at eighty six, eighty seven.

827
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 7: I mean, it's.

828
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 6: Really hard to it's really hard to pin anything right

829
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 6: now churning out a combine. Like ask me in a

830
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 6: week whenever all these mock drafts start coming out, and

831
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 6: you know, the people that are more plugged in than us,

832
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 6: and I'm just gonna be a hundredsent honest start putting

833
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 6: out mock drafts where you know, Blake Fisher all of

834
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,959
Speaker 6: a sudden is an early second round pick, and well, damn,

835
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 6: there goes there goes Blake.

836
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: Right.

837
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 6: But I think even if that does happen, that's a

838
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 6: situation where the Cowboys like him. He likes what the

839
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 6: conversation that he had with the Cowboys, this is this

840
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 6: is a really good player that I feel like we'll

841
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 6: be good at the next man, I.

842
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: Think he nailed this guy. I really do think you

843
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: got him. You got him square It up there. It

844
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: was a really good job. I have him better than Paul.

845
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I do too.

846
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: That's that's just me.

847
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 8: If you if you said one of the thing about this kid,

848
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 8: though he's made a ton of starts at offensive tackle,

849
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 8: they've all been on the right side.

850
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: So now you've got.

851
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 8: To think about if you're thinking about a left tackle

852
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 8: guy or you're going to try and move.

853
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 3: Him over, you know, can we we we?

854
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 8: I'm sure when we interview guys coaches about offensive line coaches,

855
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 8: I always tell you about where you're playing on the

856
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 8: right side or left side. Your kick, your eye, the

857
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 8: way you play your punch, all those things are things

858
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 8: that are going to have to be a just This

859
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 8: kid's a high IQ kid, and he plays with really

860
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 8: really good technique I think, and you're right about the

861
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 8: way he plays with some length and some tallness to

862
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 8: his game. But man, like I say, give me a

863
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 8: guy that's made a ton of starts. That's the fear

864
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 8: I have. With memes from Georgia eight starts, eight starts,

865
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 8: I'm like, man, I can I put it?

866
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: Can I Can I put it out there?

867
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 8: That you know when I know this guy's when we

868
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 8: played eight, we talked about floors and ceilings and all that,

869
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 8: and I always get it confused. But but these are

870
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 8: the guys, like a Memes, those are the guys I

871
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 8: have question with with with with Fisher, He's played in

872
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 8: a ton of big games. You know you're a little

873
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 8: bit easier with the evaluation of a guy like that.

874
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a very valid concern about Amarus Mims.

875
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 6: And I don't think you're I don't have any team

876
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 6: in the top twenty three should take him as a result.

877
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 7: I mean that's just.

878
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 6: Honestly, this this this week, I I think going and

879
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 6: coming out of the measurements, whenever they light everybody up

880
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 6: and Amarusmims was catching all the buzz around it, sure

881
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 6: it was, I was like, okay, so he's he's going

882
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 6: to be off the board at twenty four.

883
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 7: But you see all these tackles that.

884
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 6: Had incredible testing, yeah, and incredible work on the field

885
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 6: whenever they got to Lucas Oil. And now almost every

886
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 6: mock draft that I'm seeing is pinning Amarus Mims at

887
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 6: twenty four.

888
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: And You'll be you'd be really good with that, right,

889
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: I'd be.

890
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 7: So okay with that.

891
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 6: Honestly, I I don't mind the eight games of experience.

892
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 7: I don't mind that at all.

893
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: I've I've seen what he can do, and I have

894
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 6: the traits, and I want you to show me the

895
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 6: best thing that you can find from Amriuss that Ohio

896
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 6: State game and his sophomore year, and'll be like, Okay,

897
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 6: that is that is his potential. This is his first

898
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 6: game that he started as a college football left tackle.

899
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 6: I think that can translate to the next level. And

900
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 6: I think I'm completely okay with the Marius Mims because

901
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 6: you're also getting a guy that's still relatively raw.

902
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 7: Now for his experience.

903
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 6: I think he's more developed than those eight games, but

904
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 6: you're still getting a guy that's relatively raw. You can

905
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 6: bring him in and you can kind of mold him

906
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 6: into to what you want him to be. I think

907
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 6: that's a clear difference from a guy like Jordan Morgan,

908
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 6: who has a ton of experience.

909
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 7: You know what you're getting.

910
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you.

911
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe the thing with Memes is with the ceiling, right,

912
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 8: that ceiling and Morgan's at the floor.

913
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: There you go, right, Morgan's got a high floor. Yeah,

914
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: old trust you figured it out. You're getting it down

915
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: you're getting it down.

916
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious about this because we've talked about Cooper

917
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: BB from Kansas State before. Yeah, he's kind of in

918
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: that same thought process as Patrick Paul from Houston and

919
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: Blake Fisher Notre Dame mid to maybe mid second to

920
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: mid third, right in that area. How would you rank

921
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: those three players? How do you stack those three players?

922
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 4: I would go probably.

923
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 9: See Bbe was my guy that I need to double

924
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 9: back on after his way.

925
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: Oh okay, Oh yeah, I didn't mean to take it

926
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: from me to tell me, just.

927
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 9: Because to me, it's and Brian and I were talking

928
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 9: about this last night. I didn't see the agility or

929
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 9: athleticism numbers coming that he gat. Like, Like, when I

930
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 9: watched Cooper BB, I go, okay, is this is a

931
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 9: guy who, like in the modern NFL, do I feel

932
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 9: like he con effectively? Can he effectively climb to the

933
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 9: second level, you know, reach the linebackers and time that

934
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 9: That's kind of the thing that I was looking at there.

935
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 9: But I was like, it's a guy who's got power

936
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 9: and the IQ the mental processing is really really good.

937
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 9: But then when you watch them go out there and test,

938
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 9: it's like, Okay, the agility, and some of those numbers

939
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 9: were really impressive.

940
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 4: And then his bench.

941
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 9: Numbers he put up twenty yeah, with shorter arms, and

942
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 9: so it's like, okay, so the testing showed a guy

943
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 9: who was not an elite power guy at least on

944
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 9: the bench, and a guy who tests better athletically than

945
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 9: I was anticipating.

946
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 4: So it's like that that's kind of reversed everything that.

947
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 9: I had in my notes about him, at least the

948
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 9: you know, the testing did. It's not enough for me

949
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 9: to say I'm gonna take that over what I had

950
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 9: in my notes, but it is enough for me to

951
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 9: say I need to go back and look again and

952
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 9: see if I'm missing something. Was there something in the

953
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 9: testing that should have shown up that I missed but

954
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 9: you're usually looking for okay, it does the testing confirm

955
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 9: what you see on tape and for Bebe, for me,

956
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 9: it was kind of reversed, and so that was a

957
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 9: little that threw me off. That's why I need to

958
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 9: go back to him on stacking those. I would probably go, Man,

959
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 9: I don't hope Paul Bebe Fisher.

960
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: Is the direction I would go.

961
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 3: Would you be the same or complete opposite?

962
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would probably flip flop. I would go Fish

963
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 7: or Bbe.

964
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 6: Paul I had mentioned this to Zach on the phone

965
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 6: on that conversation, But of the three hundred plus players

966
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: that I talked to last week, Cooper Bbe was easily

967
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: the most enjoyable guy.

968
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:47,959
Speaker 3: Why.

969
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 6: He's just he's a ball of energy. He's he's so

970
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 6: much fun. Just a good dude, really good dude. If

971
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 6: he's a guy that ends up getting drafted to Dallas,

972
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people on the beat would

973
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 6: be happy with, you know, his personality, what he kind

974
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 6: of brings to.

975
00:40:59,040 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: That left front.

976
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 11: How would you stack them well before before the benching thing.

977
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 10: Because I feel like I'm like Bobby.

978
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 11: When I look at Cooper, I'm thinking to myself, like

979
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 11: he's powerful, he's a mall or he can come downhill.

980
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 11: So I'm trying to figure out if he's not upper

981
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 11: body strong, where is.

982
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 10: It coming from? Where is coming from?

983
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 11: It could could be his core, whatever the case may be,

984
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 11: but it's I want to These are things that I

985
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 11: think about mentally because I understand compensation and I understand

986
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 11: those things we talk about longevity, So I wonder where

987
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 11: that is coming from.

988
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 9: Traps traps Frederick had bad bench numbers. That was the

989
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 9: guy who played with power.

990
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 10: Still it's the technique too, so yeah.

991
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 9: And I mean it could be you know, it's one

992
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 9: of those things where sometimes guys, you know, we've seen

993
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 9: huge discrepancies before for guys on the bench at combine

994
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 9: versus prode and sometimes it can be just training fatigue

995
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 9: and some other things. That's why, like I said, I

996
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 9: just need to go back and compare it. But again,

997
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 9: like typically Brian you've talked is before, it's the long

998
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 9: arms that have trouble with the bench and that's not

999
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 9: his issue. He's got these thirty one inch charms and.

1000
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 8: Say, if you have to drive that bar a little

1001
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 8: further and they really count, you got to get it

1002
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 8: past that threshold and they count, and you might have

1003
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 8: twenty four reps and they'll go twenty four, you know,

1004
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 8: twenty good, four bad, and they'll give you the number twenty.

1005
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: You know, they will not count those bad reps.

1006
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 8: So yeah, if you have to, if you have to

1007
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 8: drive that bar from your chest because the length of

1008
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 8: your arms, some of these guys can't handle it all

1009
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 8: that well.

1010
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Frederick had twenty one reps, by the way, for comparison, emergencies.

1011
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: So right at that same number, I feel like the

1012
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: bingch press has become less and less important in the

1013
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things to improve draft stock.

1014
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: It's more of like a Okay, good, you've got that.

1015
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: Let's move on. Why does it still knock some of

1016
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: these guys?

1017
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 4: Is it just based off.

1018
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: Of a comparison standpoint, It's a way to tactically see

1019
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: how strength is calculated.

1020
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's more just for me when you're

1021
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 9: talking about those testing numbers, it's it's when it stands

1022
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 9: out as being so far off what like the standard

1023
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 9: has been for her body strength. For guards, like into

1024
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 9: your offensive linemen are routinely putting up you know, like

1025
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 9: twenty five, thirty up a little bit, and so when

1026
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 9: he's putting up twenty it's.

1027
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 8: Kind of defensive back like it's kind of like defensive

1028
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 8: back like when you look at it, I mean, when

1029
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 8: you put up twenty two.

1030
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 11: It surprised me too, Bobby. I'm not gonna lie, but

1031
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 11: I to answer your question. To answer your question, Kyle,

1032
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 11: I would go, I'm gonna trust trust what I thought

1033
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 11: even last year when I watched Bobe, I'm gonna go

1034
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 11: dB Fisher Paul.

1035
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: What Yeah, BB Fisher, Paul, is that where you're at?

1036
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 10: Okay, I do think people are.

1037
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 3: Going should feel bad and I'm going a long no.

1038
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 11: I do think people are gonna wonder how they if

1039
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 11: that thing with Fisher is gonna affect leverage and things

1040
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 11: like that, how do you break that. I don't mind it,

1041
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 11: don't It works for him to me like it works

1042
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,919
Speaker 11: for him to me. But I wonder how they're gonna

1043
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,720
Speaker 11: coach that out of him, because it's a very consistent

1044
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 11: thing with him.

1045
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 8: I have been in my history, had been so wrong

1046
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 8: about offensive tackles that lack strength. I watched David Baktiari

1047
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 8: at Colorado. You know, I've watched.

1048
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 3: Colton.

1049
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 8: I've watched these guys and none of them bench well,

1050
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 8: none of them are very strong, and then they.

1051
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 3: Play like fifteen years in the league.

1052
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 8: It's weird how sometimes you could say guy needs strength,

1053
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 8: guy needs power. Nate Soldor was another one that way

1054
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 8: back in the day that that doesn't look strong, but

1055
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 8: he played a long time, made a lot of money,

1056
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 8: wasn't very good. But these guys that sometimes don't have

1057
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 8: good strength numbers and you see it on tape. It

1058
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 8: scares me. And then they play a long time and

1059
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 8: I'm thinking, well, how did that happen?

1060
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: You know?

1061
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 8: So sometimes some of these guys show up that might

1062
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 8: not have upper body power but make up with it

1063
00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 8: some other way.

1064
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 9: What so you guys all like Fisher a lot more

1065
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 9: than I do? Like what gives you pause about Himcause

1066
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 9: the thing that gives me pause about Blake Fisher when

1067
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 9: I watch him, the reason why I would have even

1068
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 9: with Patrick Paul with his flaws like above him and

1069
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 9: Cooper bb with my question with athleticism. The biggest thing

1070
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 9: to me that I saw that concerned me with Fisher

1071
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 9: was like instincts related, like like a feel for things

1072
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 9: because you see, you see routinely he is consistently the

1073
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 9: last guy out of his stance at the snap.

1074
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 8: That was something that was something and I wondered because

1075
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 8: I dealt with Flozell Adams here and he was deaf

1076
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,280
Speaker 8: in one ear. And I'm not saying this kid's death,

1077
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 8: but you wonder.

1078
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 4: If there's just something specific if you're not is.

1079
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 8: Your peripheral vision not good to see the ball or

1080
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 8: is there something that you're just not hearing? You know

1081
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 8: they're coming out of his shotgun? Is he not, but

1082
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 8: you're right. That's something that I put in my notes.

1083
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 8: He could be a tick late coming off the ball.

1084
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 4: And that's the thing.

1085
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 9: I think that he's a tick lake and then he

1086
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 9: will allow guys occasionally to get into his chest and

1087
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 9: he will like even though like I think, technique wise

1088
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 9: he's good, it's just almost like there's a feel issue

1089
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 9: here that's off a little bit. It's almost like, just

1090
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 9: like I said, it's a it's an instincts thing for

1091
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 9: me with Fisher, where it's like, guys are getting into

1092
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 9: your chest, you're taking a bad angle on the second level,

1093
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 9: you're you know, miscalculating this or misjudging this, you're laid

1094
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 9: off the ball, you're you know, allowing your hands to

1095
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 9: get swatted away because you're missed with your punch. There's

1096
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Speaker 9: just a lot of that little stuff there that makes

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00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 9: me go like, that's not I can you can coach

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00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 9: technique out of Patrick Paul.

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Speaker 4: If you don't have instincts, you're screwed.

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00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 8: I felt like that Fisher real quick there, I should

1101
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 8: I felt like the Quisher that Fisher was able to

1102
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 8: rally though if he was a little bit late, he

1103
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 8: found ways like through that athletic ability to recover and

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Speaker 8: get there, whereas.

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Speaker 3: Paul if he's if he's misstepped early, I.

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Speaker 8: Need to go back labor and get back to find

1107
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 8: I need to find more film.

1108
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 9: I think, are you going to have the ability to

1109
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 9: rally like that consistently at the NFL?

1110
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 15: Though?

1111
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 9: Is the thing like when you were going across that's

1112
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 9: my stronger You've got the like NFL defensive lineman const

1113
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 9: I just don't know that his he's going to be

1114
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 9: able to rally him. I think his technique, like you said,

1115
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 9: I think he technically he's good like and I think

1116
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 9: that his movement skills are really good.

1117
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,439
Speaker 8: I was watching I was watching the Center last night

1118
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 8: that that that kid from uh, the kid from that

1119
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 8: that from Wisconsin, Bordelini.

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Speaker 3: Were going back to Wisconsin for a No.

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Speaker 8: I'm just telling you, though, I know you got to

1122
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,399
Speaker 8: make a point here, but I've always say this about Bortoloni. Uh,

1123
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 8: Bordelini's sorry, Thank god, I watched him look like that

1124
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 8: he was about to just get abused and then rally

1125
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 8: back and rally back in the position, you know, and

1126
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 8: so but and it's again, I was watching against Iowa

1127
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 8: defensive tackle too, you know that. Yeah, So I to me,

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00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 8: I some of these guys are capable.

1129
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 3: They they they have a survival mode to them, you know.

1130
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 3: And and maybe our maybe our Notre Dame guy's got

1131
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 3: a little of that.

1132
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: I think I would as I sneak it in before

1133
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: the break, I would stack him BB Paul and Bordelini's

1134
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: great uh B B Paul and then Fisher.

1135
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: That would be my three.

1136
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 7: Stant there dumping on my guys.

1137
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: Sorry, I like, it's not that I go with you.

1138
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: He's a top one player.

1139
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: It's Paul You're scaring the hell out of me with.

1140
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: But I know, yeah, I just like Paul's link. I

1141
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: like the athleticism and I think he's he plays better.

1142
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1143
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 3: I don't see this is.

1144
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 8: When when Paul turns out to be a Pro Bowl player,

1145
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 8: that you can walk back in the draft show and

1146
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 8: tell us all that you know, I know what I'm

1147
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 8: talking about a lot.

1148
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 11: I do want to ask when you talk about, you know,

1149
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 11: a guy being laid off the whistle, and then I

1150
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 11: know you mentioned the peripheral vision.

1151
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 3: Things like that, or being deaf.

1152
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 11: I'm a baby, I'm a baby out here. Is that

1153
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Speaker 11: something that they test for?

1154
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, just for a little bit of everything.

1155
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 11: So well, we know you're going to jail, we know.

1156
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Speaker 8: So if that's a problem, problem, Yeah, yeah, I think

1157
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Speaker 8: I think there's some things.

1158
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Speaker 3: At some point.

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Speaker 8: I think when everybody gets back to their all back home,

1160
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Speaker 8: we're gonna start hearing some whispers which.

1161
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Speaker 3: Is about a lot of different things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's all yep, And we'll talk about it

1163
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Speaker 2: on Thursday too.

1164
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Speaker 3: All right, let's take our second break.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, I want to give a post

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Speaker 2: combine guess of who the pick would be at twenty four?

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Speaker 2: I didn't put this on the rundown on purpose because

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be from the heart. I don't want

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Speaker 2: any preparation going into it. I wanted to be gut

1222
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Speaker 2: feeling as we sit today on March fifth, fifty one

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Speaker 2: days away from the NFL Draft, who is the pick

1224
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: at twenty four? After the combine, after hearing the murmurs,

1225
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: after hearing the rumors, and kind of seeing how that

1226
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: all unfolded and how things could unfold this next week

1227
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: in free agency? Who is your pick at twenty four? Bobby,

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you.

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00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, I'll be honest.

1230
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 9: It's I feel pretty confident right now that the direction will.

1231
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 4: Be as offensive line.

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00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 9: So now it's just a matter of as Brian has

1233
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 9: talked about, for it's ice cream, like, so you know,

1234
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 9: does somebody have a real strong affinity for Guiton or

1235
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 9: you know, is there somebody who's really in love with

1236
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 9: Mims near the top ten? Like I mean, I don't

1237
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 9: think last year we anticipated Darnell Wright going ten to Chicago.

1238
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 9: That was a little high. And so with that, like

1239
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 9: with the unpredicted what's gonna fall there? I feel confidence

1240
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 9: offensive line right now. I would lean towards Mimes is

1241
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 9: the pick right now to me? But I just again,

1242
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 9: it's the lack of film is obviously concerning but what's

1243
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 9: been put on film is really, really good and the

1244
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 9: measurables are absolutely insane. And so I just I wonder

1245
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 9: if somebody's going to fall in love in the top

1246
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 9: fifteen and just say I can make that work. And

1247
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 9: I'll roll the dice on the limited amount. I'll take

1248
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 9: eight games in the SEC and what he showed me,

1249
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 9: and so but right now I would go offensive line

1250
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 9: for sure.

1251
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: I'll say Mems is the pick.

1252
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 6: Okay, this is a question I was asking myself throughout

1253
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 6: the week while I was in Indianapolis. It was going

1254
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 6: for first, second, and third round. And I'll kind of

1255
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Speaker 6: walk you through my thought process of where I'm at

1256
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 6: currently today. So beginning of the week, I'm looking at

1257
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 6: h Marrius Mims and I'm saying, Okay, that's an option

1258
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 6: there at twenty four. I think, you know, with this

1259
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 6: tackle class, maybe he's the one that kind of gets

1260
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 6: shuffled down a little bit.

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Speaker 7: You get some really good value on a really good

1262
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 7: tackle there at twenty four.

1263
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 6: Then he tests, then he measures, and then he does

1264
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 6: everything else to make himself look like Thanos, and I

1265
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 6: just don't see him. I don't see him there at

1266
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 6: twenty four. I'd be so shocked to see him there.

1267
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 6: So I think he's going to fall in that fifteen

1268
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 6: to twenty range where that's going to be that first

1269
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 6: big wave of offensive line. So as I started to

1270
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Speaker 6: come to that opinion early in the week, I was like, Okay,

1271
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 6: I'm looking at Troy Filetanu out of Washington. You know,

1272
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: it's he had an awesome week talk about guys that

1273
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: were maybe lost in the shuffle. A little bit that

1274
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 6: emerged from that file Tanu is that. And so I'm like, okay,

1275
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 6: I'm coming out of Combine week like okay, before they test,

1276
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 6: and I'm saying, Okay, Filetanu, that's probably the guy at

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Speaker 6: twenty four. You look at what he can do at tackle,

1278
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 6: what he can do at guard, and the the any

1279
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 6: questions about athleticism absolutely run away from run away from

1280
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 6: from his board, just from what he was able to

1281
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Speaker 6: do from a testing his perspective. So I'm looking at that,

1282
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, okay, twenty four. And then I'm seeing mock

1283
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 6: drafts this morning seeing him at like fourteen, and I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 6: So on the board either Jordan Morgan, I think that's

1285
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Speaker 6: my pick.

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Speaker 3: You look at you.

1287
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Speaker 6: Look at experience, that at left tackle, you need a

1288
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 6: guy that can come in and be ready to play.

1289
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 6: I think that's the dude that can do it. He

1290
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 6: he does everything really well. Talk about that high floor.

1291
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 6: I think that's the guy they need this next year.

1292
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 6: And I think he still got a little bit to

1293
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 6: his game that you can unlock. Isn't as much as

1294
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 6: these other guys, probably not, but I like what Jordan

1295
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 6: Morgan brings. And the only difference I have him a

1296
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 6: little bit different from Tyler Guyden is the fact that

1297
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 6: Guiden's experience experience comes mostly at right tackle, and I

1298
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 6: think that's probably where he's gonna fit best at the

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00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 6: next level. Jordan Morgan gave me a left tackle at

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Speaker 6: twenty four.

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00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 3: Kay played at thirty nine college games.

1302
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: By the twenty four hundred snaps along the way, Ryan,

1303
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: what do you think?

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00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 8: I think they go Morgan in the first. I think

1305
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 8: they go Limber in the third. The center from Arkansas, Wow,

1306
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 8: would be my guess.

1307
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Speaker 3: Tell me about Limmer a little bit, go ahead going no, no,

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Speaker 3: no no.

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Speaker 10: I was so.

1310
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 11: I watched him last night because obviously he decided to

1311
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 11: Bolimmer from Arkansas center. I watched him. I watched him

1312
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 11: last night because everyone was talking about him, and also too,

1313
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 11: he just went crazy on the bench because okay, why

1314
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 11: he had to. I wrote down he embodies low man

1315
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 11: wins and when you see his stance and you see

1316
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 11: how quickly he pops out that stance with power, he

1317
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 11: latches and he anchors quickly. He has good recovery as well,

1318
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 11: to where you can tell his core strength is strong

1319
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 11: because he'll wrestle with folks, but you just see him

1320
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 11: the lower body strength in the timing of the anchor

1321
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 11: is something that stood out to me. He can steal

1322
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 11: to the next level and get to the next level

1323
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 11: really quickly.

1324
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 10: Because he's rangy and he's fast.

1325
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 11: He plays with balance and a lot of control, like

1326
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 11: he can he can really.

1327
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 10: Control a rep.

1328
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 11: Now I'm curious to see how well if he can

1329
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 11: do different things that if he can move across the line.

1330
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 11: I did see them at a senior bowl. He did

1331
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 11: do a couple things at guard, but mostly he just

1332
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,920
Speaker 11: works at center. I just think I just think he

1333
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 11: plays with violence and he's an interesting player. And he

1334
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 11: came out and showed his strength and you can see

1335
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 11: it on film how strong he is and how quickly

1336
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 11: he can take over a rep when he decides to.

1337
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 11: So I like the player.

1338
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 10: I want to see what he's able to do at

1339
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 10: the next level as well.

1340
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 3: Okay, what she's got him nailed. Is he a little light?

1341
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 3: It's three h two is what he is? Strong? Yeah,

1342
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 3: I mean he's six ' five. He's got a frame

1343
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: to put it on. Yeah, he's uh.

1344
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 8: There's I wonder if teams are gonna not like him

1345
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 8: because of the lack of bulk.

1346
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: That might scare sentence.

1347
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 8: But I used just right. He's played the majority of

1348
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 8: his career at guard, and you could watch him play

1349
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 8: against big techniques. I used to write again about the

1350
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 8: way he's able to wrestle with guys, the way he's

1351
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 8: able to kind of sometimes his hands get a little

1352
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 8: wide and his hand placement could be a little lot,

1353
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 8: but once he gets a hold that guy, he's not

1354
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 8: letting go. He's a really good positional run blocker. He's

1355
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 8: got a nasty side to his game. The way he finishes.

1356
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 8: There's snaps, he gets a little sloppy, but he will

1357
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 8: get the job done. I like him as a pass blocker.

1358
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 8: I like how he sits down. I like how he

1359
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 8: holds guys off. There's some knee bin. There's some balance.

1360
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 8: Uh man, he's not on the ground. He can come

1361
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 8: really close to being thrown on the ground, but he's not.

1362
00:57:59,640 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 4: On the grid.

1363
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 8: And I think he handles power well and at you know,

1364
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 8: at at three ZHO two. There could be some questions there,

1365
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 8: but everything about him is super super positive about the

1366
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 8: toughness and the nastiness and his ability to get to

1367
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 8: that second level.

1368
00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 9: Real quick question, do you think on the lighter center discussion,

1369
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 9: team's minds have been changed by I mean, Jason Kelsey

1370
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 9: just retired yesterday. He's a lighter center breed. Humphrey is

1371
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 9: just over three hundred. Linderbaum has had success in I

1372
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 9: wonder if like people just look at it and say,

1373
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 9: as long as I got two strong guards bracketing you,

1374
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:35,920
Speaker 9: I'm not worried as much about us.

1375
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there's I think there's some there's some

1376
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 8: absolute truth to that, like I said, but there's some

1377
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 8: teams that just say he's just to tick over three

1378
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 8: hundred pounds and they won't go that direction. But you

1379
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 8: make a great point about the others that we've seen,

1380
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 8: that there are some successful ones that we have seen.

1381
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 6: A question I was trying to ask this week when

1382
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 6: it came to center specifically, is because I had to

1383
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 6: get out of town before they were able to hit

1384
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 6: the field what was Sunday. So what I was trying

1385
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 6: to get mostly out of the center conversation is who

1386
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,439
Speaker 6: are the guys that are impressing in meetings? Because there's

1387
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 6: so much that is relied upon at the center position

1388
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 6: as far as pre snap and being able to be

1389
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 6: in communication with quarterback and understanding those things.

1390
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 7: The name that kept getting brought up and brought up

1391
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 7: is Center, Vamper and Granger, and I.

1392
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 6: Think that's I think with his knowledge, what he brings

1393
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 6: to the whiteboard and what he was able to do

1394
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 6: in that aspect in Indianapolis really impressing people. I think

1395
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 6: that's another guy to be sure and circle back to,

1396
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 6: just because he's always had that strength and force, but

1397
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 6: it's still really raw, I think as well.

1398
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 7: But he's got the IQ I think to put it together.

1399
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 6: Talk about instincts and being able to develop those, I

1400
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: think SVP's got that.

1401
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 3: Who's your pick at twenty four Asia.

1402
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, they named him just because I've definitely been paying

1403
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 11: attention to all these freaking mind drafts and some of

1404
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 11: the conversation because I know how that goes down. But yeah,

1405
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 11: I thought Jordan Morgan would be the guy that made sense.

1406
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 10: So you guys definitely took But.

1407
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 11: I will say I don't know. Wide receiver is just

1408
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 11: it's something to me. It's just something to me. I

1409
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 11: know that we we think they're going to go off

1410
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 11: as some line, but I mean.

1411
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 7: There's gonna be a shiny object there twenty four. We

1412
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 7: just talk about it.

1413
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 10: Talking about listen. So in my mind, so I.

1414
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 2: Can't wait for I should look up and see one

1415
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: of those receivers, those top receivers, would be like.

1416
01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 3: Pull the trigger, go for it, don't window dress.

1417
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 8: Do you think I think there'll be a city lamp

1418
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 8: situation where the player is just too good to pass

1419
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 8: up on the board.

1420
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:36,439
Speaker 10: I think it's possible with this draft.

1421
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 7: I think it's very possible.

1422
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 11: It is very possible that Beats there's going to be

1423
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 11: a first round talent right there that you can take

1424
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 11: from a wide receiver position from the But you have.

1425
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 6: To have the luxury of having the opportunity to pull

1426
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 6: that trigger by what you do in free agency?

1427
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 4: How many how.

1428
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 9: Many quarterbacks do you think go ahead of Dallas after

1429
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 9: the combine if there are people talking like it could Yeah.

1430
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 3: That was.

1431
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 9: Daniels McCarthy nex there's four for sure, or could be

1432
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 9: two others.

1433
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm thinking I would say five, so split the difference.

1434
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 10: Quarterback getting my nerves a little bit.

1435
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know.

1436
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 10: I'm I supposed to say that loud, but.

1437
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 11: They just get on my nerves a little bit. Like

1438
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 11: I mean, I get I get, I get that they're

1439
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 11: starting and these young players are starting to understand their

1440
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 11: position and what the position calls for and the fact

1441
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 11: that you are it's a premier position.

1442
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 10: I get it.

1443
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 11: I do want them to be cognizant of their health,

1444
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 11: their mental health and those things of that nature. But

1445
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 11: I I mean, it's just hard to It's just we're

1446
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 11: watching tape on them, but it's hard to separate them

1447
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 11: right now for me because of the lack of of

1448
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 11: of testing, because of the lack of information, and again

1449
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,439
Speaker 11: we're not real scouts, so it's like, besides, Briny, he did.

1450
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 10: It, so I mean, we're not filled. We've never done

1451
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 10: we've never done it at that level.

1452
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 11: But at the same token, it's like it's difficult to

1453
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 11: navigate separating these guys right now and it's getting on

1454
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 11: my damn nerves and I really would like to know

1455
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 11: who's who. And also too, you look across the NFL,

1456
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 11: we know how important the quarterback position is. When quarterbacks

1457
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 11: come in, they can change your franchise if they're good.

1458
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Make it also downgrade a franchise too. We can all

1459
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 3: get fired if we don't pick the rua.

1460
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 11: Let me tell you the minute that I hear whispers like, oh,

1461
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 11: this guy's going to Washington, I'm prepping.

1462
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 10: I'm about to start prepping right now. How do we

1463
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 10: beat this guy? What are his tendency sneeze like that?

1464
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 11: So it is a bit selfish and fair, I would maybe,

1465
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 11: I mean, I know it is a bit selfish, but

1466
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 11: I am at the point where I'm just like, all right,

1467
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 11: let's wrap this up. We know where y'all are going,

1468
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 11: so we can start looking at what things are gonna

1469
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 11: shape shape out as.

1470
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 2: So your guys, Jordan Morgan at twenty four, any shiny

1471
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 2: object there that you would you would pick if he

1472
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 2: hell ceed lamb situation.

1473
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 11: I have a I really really really like Ada and

1474
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:09,360
Speaker 11: I how.

1475
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 10: Do you say his name?

1476
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 7: At Texas? But I think he's technically going back as yeah.

1477
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 11: I mean, and there's there's quite a few wide receivers

1478
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 11: that if I see them fall, I wouldn't mind. I

1479
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 11: think I like, I like Ricky, I like I like

1480
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 11: Oh Pearsol, I like yeah from Florida. Yeah, yeah, I

1481
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 11: mean yeah. The route running is just insane from him, obviously.

1482
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 11: Keyon Coleman is a guy that's been circling from f

1483
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 11: s U. I I just think there's gonna be somebody there.

1484
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 11: I unless something happens, there's gonna be someone there there.

1485
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 11: So I'm just gonna prepare my heart and mind for

1486
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 11: if that happens that night and we're sitting in these years.

1487
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 3: They take offensive line.

1488
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 8: If Mimes is there, you take him though. I mean,

1489
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 8: I guess I know what you just said here. But

1490
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 8: if Mems is Mims or the Washing Kid.

1491
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 7: Uh PLATANU, I'm taking Mems.

1492
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 3: I would take Mems. Memes, by the way, Memes is

1493
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 3: my I would take the Washington Kid. Why is that

1494
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: just experiences?

1495
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 8: No, I just I think that I think that kid

1496
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 8: right there again, I go back to the experience. I

1497
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 8: go back to the guy that's played a lot of

1498
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 8: snaps and stuff, And I know Mems is I know

1499
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 8: Mems is on a lot of people's boards. Is uhh

1500
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 8: that type of guy. But when you start to talk

1501
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 8: about left tackles and athletic ability and effortless in the

1502
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 8: way he plays, light on his feet, positioning, body balance,

1503
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 8: all that stuff.

1504
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 3: A kid at Washington's got it. He's got it together.

1505
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 3: He really. He makes a lot of wild blocks.

1506
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 11: I'm on the fence because I struggle with because my anxiety.

1507
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 11: I struggle with not if I don't got enough information,

1508
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 11: I can't It's difficult to make a determination.

1509
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 3: So would you take over, Mims, I'll die on that hill.

1510
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 10: I would have to go back. I see, I see

1511
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 10: it with Memes.

1512
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,959
Speaker 11: I feel like I need like one more thing.

1513
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like I don't know.

1514
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 11: I don't know if it's pro day, I don't know

1515
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 11: what it is. But I feel like I need to

1516
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 11: see him a little bit more. I know what he's

1517
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 11: capable of. I know what you're saying. I feel like

1518
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 11: Nick was right when he's like, hey man, we can

1519
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 11: see it right there in front of us, when he's

1520
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 11: capable of. But it's like we just that position is

1521
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 11: just so important to just be making those type of

1522
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 11: decisions on. So I don't know do you know who

1523
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 11: Fontine News said that was the hardest guy?

1524
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 10: Is that how he says?

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Speaker 13: Same?

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Speaker 7: Uh?

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Speaker 11: That gentleman said that the hardest person he played against

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Speaker 11: was Doorless.

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Speaker 10: If I'm not I'm cheating. But that's a guy that

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Speaker 10: I had to go back. I'm cheating.

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Speaker 11: I wanted to add him. I had to go back

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Speaker 11: and watch him last night because I just, well, how

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Speaker 11: how did you feel about how you tested?

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Speaker 6: Talking about door lest specifically, I didn't really get a

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01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 6: good opportunity to dive into defensive line.

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Speaker 7: Obviously.

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Speaker 6: That's that's probably the one position that I need to

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01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 6: go back on the most as far as what happened

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Speaker 6: last week, because I was right in the middle of

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Speaker 6: what I was when I was running around a million

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Speaker 6: million hours an hour, million hours an hour.

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Speaker 7: Basically we understood.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: But I love dor list of what he put together

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Speaker 6: at the Senior Bowl, and I love his position flex.

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01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 6: I think you can move him around. I think I

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Speaker 6: think he's the most versatile defensive line in this draft.

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Speaker 6: You can play Hi anywhere up front.

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Speaker 10: He's interesting, he's interesting.

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Speaker 11: Like I said, I enjoyed his tape, and I'm just

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 11: I'm curious to see how people start to look at him.

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Speaker 10: So if you guys have opinions, please let me know.

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Speaker 11: But we've been talking about Troy Filetanu and I was

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Speaker 11: just like, he literally said that was the hardest player

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01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 11: I played against, and that I think that says a

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Speaker 11: lot about what he thinks about Dorless. If we think

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01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 11: this guy could go first round, just.

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Speaker 6: Really quick to the point of shiny object. At number

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Speaker 6: twenty four of these are the formal meetings. That are

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Speaker 6: some of them that the Cowboys had last week with

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Speaker 6: receivers Keyon Coleman Florida State, Troy Franklin, Oregon at a night,

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Speaker 6: Mitchell Texas, Xavier Worthy, Texas, Brian Thomas Junior lsu So,

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Speaker 6: five potential first round wide receivers. The Cowboys are doing

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01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 6: their due diligence there. They're trying to figure out what's

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01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 6: going on at that position too, So don't be surprised, man,

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Speaker 6: don't do not be surprised if free agency allows to

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Speaker 6: do that.

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Speaker 10: At twenty four, I would.

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Speaker 3: Letter, will this in new existence? Aren't you? I don't

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01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 3: think you want to start Team forty Burger back we

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Speaker 3: can make that happen.

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Speaker 11: Struggling with it because the way out talk about it, Babe.

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Speaker 10: We still ain't talked about how they gonna run the ball.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, all.

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Speaker 11: The shiny toy thing is cool, but if an offensive

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01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 11: lineman means they'll make me to.

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Speaker 7: Run the ball, I am with you. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 7: don't be surprised.

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Speaker 10: I'm on like, will the shiny toy be nice?

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Speaker 14: Yeah?

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Speaker 11: Do you need to be able to run the ball

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01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 11: in the playoffs when it matters most more?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news is they have fifty days to

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01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 2: figure it out. The bad news is they have fifty

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: days and only fifty days to figure it out, and

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01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: then of course April twenty fifth comes around very very quickly.

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Speaker 3: We'll be back on Thursday to break it down for

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Speaker 3: you a little bit more. It's good to be back.

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Speaker 2: It feels like every time we have the weekend off

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01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:54,600
Speaker 2: and then yeah, you're right back into it. It feels

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Speaker 2: like it's it's a lifego. But don't have to wait

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Speaker 2: very long for the next episode. We'll be back eleven

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Speaker 2: am on Thursday for Bobby Belt, Nick Harris Brian brought

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Speaker 2: us Aisham Morrison. I'm Kyle Yoma saying so long from

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Speaker 2: the Draft show.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you on Thursday.

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