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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show,

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Speaker 1: our number two rolling through the Thursday edition of the program.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis. She shows out buck Sexton's name as well,

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Speaker 1: to make sure that you never miss an interview such

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Speaker 1: as the one that we're just about to begin right

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Speaker 1: now with Monica Crowley. She's a former assistant Treasury secretary

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Speaker 1: under Donald Trump. Just to call him up about the

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Speaker 1: idea of a Hillary Clinton comeback. We'll get into that

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Speaker 1: and more, but I want to start Monica first. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for coming on. Second, inflation yesterday hit seven percent, the

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Speaker 1: highest rate it's been since nineteen eighty two. How do

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Speaker 1: we get back to the Fed's targeted goal of around

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Speaker 1: two percent inflation and what's the time frame that that

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Speaker 1: might require. Well, Hi, guys, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: having me back. I could tells a pleasure and it

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Speaker 1: is an excellent question. You know, there were some of

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Speaker 1: us last year who were screaming that inflation was going

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Speaker 1: to become a huge problem. I remember being on Fox Business.

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Speaker 1: I was all over radio. I was not the only one,

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Speaker 1: but I was certainly saying that inflation looks like it

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Speaker 1: is going to be far more persistent than what we

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Speaker 1: were being told by the powers that be, including President Biden,

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Speaker 1: Vice President Harris, Treasury Secretary Jenny Yellen, and the said

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Speaker 1: Chair Jerome Powell. They were all telling us last year, listen,

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Speaker 1: there is some inflation, but it's going to be transitory.

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Speaker 1: It's all associated with opening the economy back up and

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Speaker 1: all of this pence up demand. But once that dust

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Speaker 1: What we have seen the exact opposite. And what we

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Speaker 1: all knew that they either didn't know or ignored is

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Speaker 1: the fact that there was so much money that has

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Speaker 1: have inflationary pressures. They thought, well, we can continue to

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Speaker 1: keep the interest rates at record lows, and with all

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Speaker 1: this fiscal policy, you know, the booming demand will come

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Speaker 1: that didn't happen. And you know, obviously those of us

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Speaker 1: in the Trump administration. During the pandemic, the President made

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Speaker 1: the very difficult decision to shut down the economy for

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Speaker 1: therefore we had all of this emergency level spending because

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Speaker 1: out of the said speaking to Monica Crowley, former Assistant

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Speaker 1: you and I have known each other for a while.

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Speaker 1: You know the folks that can often formulate a consensus

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Speaker 1: but it will be entertaining. Well, Hillary Clinton is a

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Speaker 1: someone else like that. But Hillary is a fighter, and

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you she has refused to go quietly into

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Speaker 1: fascinating to think about. You're convinced that Biden is not

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Speaker 1: going to run again. Let's presume that that's true. When

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Speaker 1: Because there's a lot of focus, I think in the

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Speaker 1: do you think Biden would announce? Hey, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: kind of a lame duck already. Presuming that the Democrats

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Speaker 1: Biden to say basically, hey, I'm done. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: He's already a lame duck. I mean, if Jill Mansion

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Monica Crowley, former assistant Treasury Secretary under

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Speaker 1: It's got gonna happen. So all of these dominoes are

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Speaker 1: Harris and Joe Biden have been using about the Civil

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Speaker 1: War to describe our current time. In Bill Clinton nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety four, he got shell act, he came back from it.

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Speaker 1: Same thing happened to Barack Obama in the midterms in

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Speaker 1: it was a two thousand and eight and he came

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Speaker 1: back from it. And I don't know two ten, I

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Speaker 1: guess I don't know that Biden has anywhere near the

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Speaker 1: political skill to be able to come back from what

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Speaker 1: seems to be a clear shell acting that is coming

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Speaker 1: towards him in November. And so basically at that point,

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Speaker 1: we just sit and do nothing for two years because

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Speaker 1: there's nothing that's going to get through the House, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing that's going to get through the Senate. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think Biden has the political muscle to be able

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Speaker 1: to build himself back up like Clinton and Obama did.

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Speaker 1: It's like he's on the high speed trains Lame Duckville.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's like he's getting there before anybody thought

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Speaker 1: could have even been possible. Because if you are the

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Speaker 1: House and the Senate, which is very possible, why would

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Speaker 1: you want to do anything that would fall into the

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Speaker 1: Democrat agenda? I mean, sure, you're gonna do the basic

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Speaker 1: stuff that they do on Capitol Hill and DC. But

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Speaker 1: why all of a sudden would you want to give

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Speaker 1: him the lifeline of triangulation. I think that's what you're

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Speaker 1: getting at, right, that there could be some political skill

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Speaker 1: that others would have to take a more moderate path.

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Speaker 1: They've already decided that they would use, say, infrastructure spending

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Speaker 1: this is popular, so if you want this thing, you

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Speaker 1: have to give us the massive spending baggage on top

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Speaker 1: of it. Right, they've decided that this was going to

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Speaker 1: be a leverage point instead of a bipartisan measure. Why

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Speaker 1: would Republicans give them the win? You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that there's no reason to believe that Joe Biden's going

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Speaker 1: to be in a better place going forward, although I

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Speaker 1: think that, you know, one of the aspects of this,

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Speaker 1: we have to remember things are so bad now that

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Speaker 1: they will be I think on the upswing for Biden

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Speaker 1: going into the fall. And I hate saying that aloud,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's true, just because how much worse

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Speaker 1: Don't underestimate the shamelessness of these Libs when it comes

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Speaker 1: Look what they did with Joe Biden the first place.

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Speaker 1: Look at they made president and now you think they're

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Speaker 1: going to start being honest, But the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: four Relief Relief Factor, Feel the different. Welcome back into

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Speaker 1: have up there. And I would just like to point

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Speaker 1: out to everybody that already in New York City where

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Speaker 1: I am, you have Alvin Bragg, the new DA under

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Speaker 1: the petition at least a recall petition of swords to

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Speaker 1: get rid of him. The governor actually Ken the governor

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Speaker 1: of New York HOCl who seems like an imbecile. So

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Speaker 1: this is not going to happen. But theoretically could replace him,

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Speaker 1: but that's not going to happen, and people are already

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Speaker 1: quite upset, and Clay to give folks a sense of

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Speaker 1: how close to home all this stuff is. You know,

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Speaker 1: why is everyone talking about crime? We're sure the numbers reflected,

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Speaker 1: So we do this, We do this show here in

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Speaker 1: New York City, in Midtown and our our radio studio

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Speaker 1: right in the middle of the thick of things. Probably

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Speaker 1: the busiest, most crowded neighborhood day to day in all

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Speaker 1: of New York City is right around probably a one

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Speaker 1: square mile radius around where I'm doing the show right now.

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Speaker 1: And you had a carjacking one block from here one

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Speaker 1: hour after we finished the show, so daylight. To put

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Speaker 1: it into context for where you guys are the New

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Speaker 1: York City studio, this is a safe neighborhood, right If

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Speaker 1: you were describing where guys are broadcasting from, it would

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Speaker 1: typically be it's gotten a lot worse, that's the point. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's typically like that would be a pretty safe area. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: historically Manhattan when you say, going back the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: Manhattan's been a very safe place. But it's getting worse

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Speaker 1: and worse and worse. And for a broad daylight carjacking

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Speaker 1: right in front of a fancy hotel one you know, right,

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Speaker 1: it was basically right on Broadway for anyone who knows

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Speaker 1: New York City, I mean, it's right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of all of it is just crazy. And then there's

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Speaker 1: another story, and this one is just this was rough

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Speaker 1: to see. You had a good samaritan who and it's

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Speaker 1: all on video. New York Post has both these stories.

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Speaker 1: You know, The New York Times never covers this stuff

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Speaker 1: because you know, the people that subscribe at the Times,

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Speaker 1: they're all out in the Hampton's and talking about how

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Speaker 1: safe New York is while the butlers bring them their breakfast.

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Speaker 1: But here you have a guy, a vagrant actually took

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Speaker 1: a good samaritan, was walking by a guy who looked

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Speaker 1: really colcas It's been freezing in New York City and

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Speaker 1: the last few days been in the twenties for the

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Speaker 1: last few days here, and it's all on video. And

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Speaker 1: the homeless man that the guy actually Clay gave his

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Speaker 1: off his back because this guy looked cold. The guy

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Speaker 1: he gave the coat to assault at him, punched him

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Speaker 1: it's all on video. And this is the you know

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Speaker 1: people always say, oh, we you know, we we have

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Speaker 1: to it's not about public safety. It's just about you know,

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Speaker 1: helping people need drug abuse. Now it's about public safety too. Actually,

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Speaker 1: when you have people camping out and living on the streets,

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Speaker 1: and people who are deeply either addicted or mentally ill

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Speaker 1: or both, who are not being uh, you know, interacting

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Speaker 1: with the state in a way that allows them to

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Speaker 1: get the resources they need. It's just people ask me.

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, why don't you just stop and give everybody?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's twenty all our bill when you walk

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Speaker 1: past them or not me, but people always, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about what should you do when you walk

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Speaker 1: past owner needs help? You know, it's depends depends. So

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Speaker 1: you've lived in New York your whole life pretty much? Yeah, crime,

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Speaker 1: we know, murders are up pretty substantially over the past

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Speaker 1: couple of years. Crime in general, anecdotally certainly is up

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Speaker 1: you're using an example. Statistically is up too dramatically? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and up in places where people are not used to

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Speaker 1: seeing crime happen. Right, How what is it compared to

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Speaker 1: in your experience? Like, do you feel like this is

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Speaker 1: going back in time the pre Giuliani era? Is that

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Speaker 1: the kind of vibe you have, it's heading in that

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Speaker 1: direction for sure, And everyone who lives here and it

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Speaker 1: is being honest, will tell you that the worst that

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Speaker 1: New York ever was was nine nineteen ninety two, and

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Speaker 1: you were talking about over two thousand murders a year

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Speaker 1: in New York City, which is I mean, that's like

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Speaker 1: the casualties you would expect in a war somewhere over

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Speaker 1: the course of a year, right, And that's that's crazy. Um.

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Speaker 1: And so it got all the way down to like

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Speaker 1: two fifty or three hundred d right. It became the

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Speaker 1: safest city of its size, and like I think the

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Speaker 1: western hemisphere basically, I mean it was, yeah, in North

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Speaker 1: and South America. It became one of the safest big

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Speaker 1: cities you could find anywhere. Not quite as safe as Tokyo,

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Speaker 1: but certainly getting close to it. And it's been ending

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Speaker 1: hard in the other direction. And when you see these

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Speaker 1: things that are happening, and you see the numbers piling up,

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Speaker 1: we have to remind ourselves that there was a change.

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Speaker 1: It's not just even about BLM, and it's not just

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Speaker 1: about the progressive prosecutors. There was a change in the

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Speaker 1: overriding political philosophy of one of the two political parties

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Speaker 1: in this country that we were too harsh on criminals,

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Speaker 1: that we backed police too much, and we needed a

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Speaker 1: fundamental shift away from the carceral state. And what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing is a lot of people being hurt, attacked, raped, murdered,

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Speaker 1: robbed in places that haven't experienced these kinds of numbers

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Speaker 1: in a long time. Bad ideas have consequences, Clay, and

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Speaker 1: they certainly have consequences here in New York City. And

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Speaker 1: there should be at least a political accountability for the

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Speaker 1: people that push this crap. Why isn't every journalist asking

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Speaker 1: AOC every time she I mean, I know, I think

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Speaker 1: she's probably better from COVID now every time she pops up,

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Speaker 1: say hey, so, how do you really feel about defunding

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Speaker 1: police given the rise and murder rates nationwide and here

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Speaker 1: in New York City? You think that was a good idea,

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Speaker 1: But then let them get away with it. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I'm glad you mentioned this because I was

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Speaker 1: reading this early this morning. We haven't seen this reported

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Speaker 1: hardly anywhere. This was from the Wall Street Journal. The

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Speaker 1: number of police officers who were killed while on duty

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Speaker 1: hit a twenty year high, So seventy three different police

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Speaker 1: officers were murdered in twenty twenty, which was a twenty

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Speaker 1: year high, which directly reflects I think your point, Buck

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Speaker 1: about the demonization of police that has occurred in this country.

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Speaker 1: It's not a surprise that as a result, police were

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Speaker 1: targeted at a level that has not happened nearly in

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Speaker 1: the twenty first century. Again, Wall Street Journal, seventy three

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Speaker 1: different police officers killed while on duty last year, a

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Speaker 1: twenty year high, And obviously this happened all over the country,

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Speaker 1: highest number since nine eleven. Buck because so many police

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Speaker 1: officers died in the response to nine to eleven, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen that hardly mentioned anywhere contextually. It is an

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Speaker 1: unfortunate marker or the world that we've created in a

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Speaker 1: post George Floyd America. Every career criminal in America knows

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Speaker 1: right now that if you get into a fight with

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Speaker 1: a cop and it's on video, there'll be some moron

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Speaker 1: going on CNN and MSNBC claiming excessive force police vin

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what you know, doesn't matter what you've done before,

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what weapons you have on you. If it

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Speaker 1: looks bad on the video for a second, they're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean, look what happened with the guy.

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Speaker 1: What the cop who shot the girl in Ohio who

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Speaker 1: was swinging the knife in real time and Lebron I

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Speaker 1: meant to get to calls. I'm sorry, Clay, and I

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Speaker 1: got deeper into the crime thing. It hits close to

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Speaker 1: home and they're carjacking a couple of maybe one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty yards from where we're doing the show. So anyway, UM,

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Speaker 1: we got Senator Josh Holly join us here to talk

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Speaker 1: about basically everything we're discussing right now, but specifically i'll

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Speaker 1: build to bad members of Congress from actively trading stocks.

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Speaker 1: Why does that matter to you? We'll explain that in

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Speaker 1: a couple of moments here