WEBVTT - Coordinators: Ravens Practice 12/14 Press Conferences 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.440 Welcome to the Ravens Press Pass Podcast. It is Thursday, 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.880 December fourteenth. The Ravens are gearing up for a matchup 0:00:08.240 --> 0:00:11.879 on Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars on the road on 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.800 Sunday Night Football. As the Ravens got ready for that game, 0:00:15.080 --> 0:00:17.239 today we heard from the coordinators, So let's kick things 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.280 off of Special teams coordinator Chris Hornon. 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:21.200 Good to see everyone. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:25.080 Hope everyone's doing well right now. Our attention right now 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.080 is just strictly on Jacksonville Sunday Night Football. We understand 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.159 what's in front of us. We understand that Jacksonville has 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.320 a pretty good special teams unit. We faced these guys 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.520 last year, which is looking to go out and really 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.599 just play our can continue to try to play our 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:42.320 best football. Questions, how can. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.520 You make it so if you have seventy six yards 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.160 returns for touchdowns every time? 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:50.920 You know, that's a good question. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:51.159 You know. 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:53.680 One of the things, man, I think a lot of 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.480 things have to happen, A lot of things have to 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.440 go right in order for those things to happen, right, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:00.920 won you got to get the ball, you gotta get 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.920 the right the right punt, and then you gotta you 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.040 gotta take care of the gunners, right, You take care 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:07.280 of the gunners, and then you take care of the 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.360 guys covering down the field, uh legally with good blocks, 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:13.679 good attention to details. And then you gotta have the 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.120 returner back there. Uh one make a guy missing, go 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:19.920 to distance. That's really how it's done. If those things 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.480 could happen all the time, Shoot, i'd I'd be happy. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:24.039 You know. 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:28.240 Obviously a lot happened for Tayland in that game with 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.959 the off sides, and then you know has to come 0:01:31.000 --> 0:01:35.080 in for Devin. You know, both were your conversations like 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.120 and you said he was really hard on himself. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:38.560 Did you were you sensing that? 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:39.920 And you can try to bring him out of that, 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:43.880 you know, uh, on that all sides play, it's just 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.920 one of those things. After the game you kind of 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:47.440 talk to him. 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.320 You don't really understand because that's the same. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.280 Play that Duve actually got hurt on on that play. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.280 So shoot, as his coach, I was, I was frustrated. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.600 You know, that's a that's a change of possession. And 0:01:57.640 --> 0:01:59.080 then you know, I kind of go over I have 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:03.040 a conversation with and then at some point throughout the game, 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.000 you know, they say, hey, dudes down all right, and 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:07.640 then you go back to Thailand and you say, hey, 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:09.880 you're gonna be the punt returner. There's gonna be some 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.400 opportunities there. And the first things versus a possession of 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.520 the football, that's one of the things we talk about 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:17.400 all the time. He did that, and then from there 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.000 it's just let his natural football ability take over. I 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:22.320 mean he's got that right. He's a good receiver. H 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:24.160 Once he once he gets the ball in his hands, 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.840 all those guys have capability of making those kind of plays. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.960 Tilant's town's resilience because he's a guy. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.639 Remember we talked a great trading camp, but he said 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:34.560 he was sitting in his car waiting for the clock 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:35.480 to turn four o'clock to. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:36.600 Make sure that he was gonna make the team. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:38.720 To go from that point to what he did this 0:02:38.760 --> 0:02:41.079 past weekend, can you talk a little bit about his resilience. 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.120 You know, it just just speaks to kind of who 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.600 he is and and and what he's done. H there's 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.240 a guy that goes out there every day and he 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.240 just puts it, puts the work in, and uh, he 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:51.720 just waits for the opportunity when his numbers called, and 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.359 I think that's that that speaks a lot to kind 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.560 of who he is as a person. I mean, when 0:02:57.560 --> 0:02:59.440 he first got here as a as a rookie, I 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.400 didn't I didn't really know who he was and what 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.160 he was. And she knew he was the receiver. We 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.919 put him out there, you know, as a young guy, 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:07.520 and he played gunner and he made plays, you know, 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.040 so you just speak back to all those all those 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.839 plays he's made. I mean, this is just the one 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:13.680 that got in the end zone, this big return, right, 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.240 But Thailand's been making plays for us really since he's 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.600 got here as a special teamer. 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:21.720 Forbo said, that was a long run all the way 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:23.560 down there to the end zone, and we saw you 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:24.640 in the camera running. 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:25.280 Right along there with him. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:27.960 Did you feel that too, I definitely, I definitely felt that. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.440 You know, my adrenaline was it was it was gone. 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:31.760 I got all the way down to that hot too. 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:34.119 I started to cramp up a little bit, and then 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:36.560 you know, I realized, you know what I got to 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:39.760 give back Chases on the other side. Chase was one 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.880 of my teammates in New York, so had to go 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.680 down there, you know, shake his hand. But you know, 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:45.920 it's all love. Those are the those are really the 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.760 plays that that we look for, the plays that we 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.400 aim for. I talk about, you know, it's it's easy 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:52.040 to go out there and have good plays. We've had 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:54.920 good plays this year, but those are the great place, 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.960 you know, the I always talk about in the return game. 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.480 The plays that score are the great plays. But we've 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.240 had a lot of good ones, and we finally got 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.520 us a great one on Sunday. We're just looking forward 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.320 to going back out there and man continue to trying 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:06.840 to build on that. 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:10.360 For you, is that the most exhilarating moment of your 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.160 coaching career? And how does that compare it to your 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.560 playing careers? Is set the the best moment. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:16.159 Of your careers? 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:21.400 That is the best moment of my coaching career by far, 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:25.320 to to win the game in that fashion. As a coach, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.800 you know, you're just you're so excited for the for 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.200 the guys first, you know, and then and then as 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.200 a coach, you sit back and you think about how 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:35.080 much time you know, uh, Randy, TJ and Sam and 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:37.480 I and Harves when he's in there, how much time 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.200 we put in there just working and trying to come 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.320 up with ways to score for a great plays to happen, 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:45.599 and the attention to details in that situation. But that 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.839 was definitely the best one as a coach for sure. 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:56.000 All Right, that was Special teams cordinator Chris Horton. We 0:04:56.040 --> 0:05:01.200 also heard from offensive coordinator Todd Munkett. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:03.400 Coach Todell Beckham. You know previously, what do you think 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.200 has been the biggest difference in him over the last 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:08.320 month where the production has gone way up and it's 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:09.440 not as though he's playing one. 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:10.279 Of the staffs. 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.840 I think health. I think he's played a big part 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:17.000 of it. He's relatively healthy, He's able to practice. So 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:21.880 the confidence that he has to play at a certain 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.760 level of the confidence we have to play him put 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:24.920 him in certain situations. 0:05:25.800 --> 0:05:28.320 And did you feel like Ronnie really raised his level 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.200 from steeks earlier? And how critical is his performance to 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:33.880 you getting where you need to go on offense? 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:35.520 He certainly fought through, you know. 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.200 I mean I think that it's uh, the knee is 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.680 going to continue to strengthen, you know, And I thought 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.440 he worked awfully hard last week to get to get 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.359 to that point and it's only going to continue to 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.599 get stronger. As I just said, so certainly we need that. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:51.800 Certainly it's you know with all these teams that you 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.520 play and then you get in the playoffs and we've 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.159 gone gone a bunch of them, you know, from the 0:05:57.200 --> 0:05:59.960 Bengals to the Steelers to the Browns to the Charge 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.880 to where you're like, who's lighting up at left end? 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:06.000 You know, our left side. So it's a real challenge 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.760 for anybody's left tackle. And it's real credit to Ronnie 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.640 in terms of how hard he worked up to keep 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.479 strengthening that and how hard he's working this week. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:17.560 That would you kind of describe against the continuity and 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:23.000 Lamar and say like versus some of the other guys 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.960 in now versus. 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:30.040 You know, the first couple of years to see. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:34.080 Well, like anything, it's just practice reps, that's all it is. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:35.320 The more you're around. 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.920 The guys that you have to have that rapport with, 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.440 the connection is going to grow, the anticipation of where 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:47.480 they're going to be, the communication how we call it, 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.120 you know, in terms of targets, sometimes you're trying to 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.839 design things where you want the ball that's there, and 0:06:54.839 --> 0:06:57.960 sometimes the ball just finds them, you know, just by progression. 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:01.440 Sometimes it's it's not always by design, especially with a 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:04.440 guy like Lamar, you know, some of the plays that 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.760 he ends up making, it's not by design, it's where 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:07.400 he ends up. 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.160 So everybody be alive. 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.000 Ty. There was a lot of talk this all season 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.600 about you know, more saying that you're handed him the 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:17.680 keys to the offense, talking about how he feels more 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.360 empowered for what he can do with this offense. And 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:24.080 how often do you kind of see him doing changing 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.440 the plays there at the line, and how do you 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:27.760 think that that has gone so far? 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.440 It's been fine. 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.640 It doesn't come up as as often as you would think, 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.040 but when it does come up, he has the authority 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.520 to do that, you know, in terms of within the 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.800 scheme of what we're doing or the concept itself. Certain 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.680 concepts lend the more flexibility to that I don't even 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.400 know if that's the right word, but lends itself to 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.440 where he has the better change things. But most of 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.360 the time we work through that during the week in 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:57.480 terms of what he likes. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.000 And doesn't like. 0:07:58.120 --> 0:08:01.120 And there's not one constant up that if Lamart doesn't like, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.680 we don't run it. I mean, I ask him as 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.360 the week goes on, like you know, depending on it 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.480 could be a shot, could be a quick game, could 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.000 be anything that's in there, like, let's go through them. 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:14.480 Do you not feel comfortable with this? And if you don't, 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.760 then we take it out. We don't need more plays. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:17.800 We need to execute better. 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.960 Be some deep shots against the rams. How much of 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.440 that was by virtue of the opponent you were facing 0:08:24.440 --> 0:08:27.320 into seeing opportunities for that, versus coming out of the 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.480 buy and seeing your offense in a better position to 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:30.000 take more. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:30.560 Of those shots. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:32.960 Sometimes it just presents itself. 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.160 Sometimes you have those called in other games and the 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:41.920 ball doesn't find that spot, ends up a check down 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:44.800 or ends up you have a breakdown in protection. So 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.040 to the naked eye may feel like we took more shots, 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.960 and I'd have to go back and look at it, 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.360 but we certainly have the same amount within reasons each 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.360 game when you're looking at screens, get the ball out, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.280 rhythm throws, movements, play actions and drop backs. Try to 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.839 stay within a certain window the best we can. Certain 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.240 games go another way than others. You know, like I said, 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.800 sometimes the ball finds and you know, I mean, did 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:13.400 we go into the game anticipating that many throws? No? 0:09:13.760 --> 0:09:17.839 Did we anticipate two lengthy two minute drives that are 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.800 gonna skew that, that are gonna make it look a 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.880 little bit more like you know that we were throwing 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:25.840 it more of and we were a little bit, but 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.719 not to that extent. How we had eighteen plays till 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.880 we had that twelve play before halftime. So sometimes by 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:36.720 design and sometimes by protection coverage you know, allows itself, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.040 you know, for the ball to find that some of 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.640 the other plays, when Lamar moves around, it lends itself 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:43.040 to that. 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:48.560 By a drive like the one lay regulation or needed 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:51.160 a score and kind of get up to get the 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:52.920 two after that seem from. 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:56.360 The confidence state board st to do that to keep spot. 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.400 Well. 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.600 First of all, I think Lamar is First of all, 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.200 he's already very confident in his ability. And I don't 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:10.079 mean that over confident. He loves playing football. I mean 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.679 he's one of the rare guys I've been around. There's 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:15.400 guys that like football. He loves football, he loves to play, 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.880 so those moments never get too big for him. Ever, 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.400 from what I've seen, I should never say that. Hell 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.280 of what have I been here thirteen games? I mean, 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:28.120 so hell it should never. It's a pretty short stay 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:33.960 but it doesn't feel that way. I do think that 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:39.360 the more often you're able to have success, certainly it 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.360 builds confidence with your ability to feel like you know 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:44.920 you're never out of it, I guess would be the 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:49.959 way to say that. So, I mean, obviously the way 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.160 it turned out was I mean, I don't know, I've 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.400 been doing this thirty something years and you can count 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:58.280 on one, maybe two hands a number of times you 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.640 have a game like that. I mean pretty cool. I mean, 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.040 you don't what the night didend because the next day 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:05.240 you're on to the next team and you're like, well, 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:06.080 it's over. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:07.640 You gotta be kidding me. Can I enjoy this? 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.520 Can we get a week now? That would have been 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.720 really cool going on the bye week right now. You 0:11:11.720 --> 0:11:13.240 could have enjoyed it a lot longer than that. But 0:11:13.280 --> 0:11:15.640 it's like, okay, it is over. Great, But that was 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.240 that was unbelievable. Credit to our players and their execution 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.320 down the stretch. Obviously didn't feel like that in first 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.360 and second down. Didn't feel like that execution was at 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.160 high level, but we certainly came back on that third down. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:31.320 So I wrote it to your time with Odell before 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.760 compared to what you see with him now, just physically 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.959 and his abilities to receivers, he looked. 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:38.280 Like the same guy that you knew before. Is it different? 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:42.120 What do you see? Well, I think I said this 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.800 early on when he came. You know, he's up. 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:49.120 He's always been a highly intelligent football player, understands the game, 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:53.360 outstanding balance and body control tracking the football, which you 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:57.120 still see. You still see that, like with any player, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.160 you know, over time, you know, your body gets older 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:03.839 and it's the way it is, I mean, but he 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:05.200 still has it and you see it every day when 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:09.880 he's out there practicing the way he moves explosiveness. But 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:14.280 you can certainly see, like I said, guys that are crafty, 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:17.520 guys that are great at tracking the ball, balance and 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:20.040 body control, they never lose that. They never lose that 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:23.199 part of like their game. And he still has that. 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.920 Savoring the Rams game a little bit longer, the two 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.680 point conversion to play that Lamar made on that Your 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:32.880 thoughts when you look back on that play on. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:39.640 Film, Well, what's interesting is you know you don't. 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:44.080 Give it due justice when it's at full speed because 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.280 you don't always see. And it's the same thing with 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:50.080 the throws when you're under duress. You might not see 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.040 to the naked eye that there was a d lineman 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:54.800 in your face. You might not see what exactly like 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:58.400 to me, it worked just like we designed it. We 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.680 blocked that thing perfect, got out there a shark ronrock, 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.200 but didn't like that went there and let you. 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:03.720 On, how did that look like? 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:04.160 Crap? 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:05.960 And he made a hell of a play him and 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.880 Jay like, I'm serious with naked eye, you're all all 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.040 fired up. Hey we ran this and you look back. 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.960 Oh yeah, guyus could run anything. He's ran around me 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.280 to play. I mean, and I'm joking, but there's some 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:19.000 of that, you know, was really good route by Jay, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.400 and you know, we got a little loose with the 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.240 protection that he had to step up there, and you 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:25.960 know what I mean. And I've been on the other 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.360 side of that where you don't get the two point 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:30.440 conversion and they go down and kick a field goal, 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:35.600 and that was the difference that margin right there. I mean, Wow, 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.040 what a tremendous play by both those guys. And you know, 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.040 obviously was a big part of us winning the game. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:42.959 It's just the way it. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:48.040 Is, Todd, I know you with pat Riccard, He's he's 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:49.880 listened to a full back pick kind of extended as 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:52.520 as a tight end. But you've heard over the years 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.720 about the fullback position. I mean, do you think that 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.400 will always be a part of a football or do 0:13:57.440 --> 0:14:00.000 you think that is still one position that could ultimately 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:01.079 kind of down. 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.600 Well, I think you said he's not really a full 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:04.640 back because we don't line him up there very much 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:07.800 for a number of reasons. Why he lined up a 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.400 little bit more there last year when when Oliver was here. 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:11.200 A little bit. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:15.800 Different when you have you know, you know, when you 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.480 end up with like maybe a blocking tight end a 0:14:17.480 --> 0:14:19.320 little bit more in terms of a sea gap area. 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:22.560 But so he's more of a tight end. But you know, 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.440 you know, teams that are using full backs. I think 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.480 that's where our guys have done a great job in 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.320 the run game in terms of utilizing his strengths because 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.000 now you're seeing teams that are using full backs, they're 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:38.040 using them more. As you know, they're they're not as 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:39.920 big as Pat. I mean, let's let's be real, honestly, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.800 they're more athletic guys you can do more with and 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:46.880 that that hold on scratch that cut off every camera, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.720 all right, Pat is very capable. I'm just saying that 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.840 there's just different skill sets. I'll just put it that way, 0:14:53.840 --> 0:14:56.680 all right. So and we're fire up the pats here. Goddamn, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.360 I gotta go back, you know. Gee, So we're fired 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.040 up Pats here. It just the days of that part 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.480 of it. The game is changing, and it's changing from 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:09.880 the levels below. Same with your tight ends. You know, 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.960 guys that are more blocking tight ends are playing tackle 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:18.720 or defense. You see more air raid wise playing tight end, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.240 more route running, ball catch, and that's also you you 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.960 don't have fullbacks. That's what Pat wasn't like he was 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.960 a dealer there. You're you're having makeshift guys in those positions. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.800 So it's just but fired up. We had him. He's 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.960 done a great job and we've used him a lot more. 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:39.160 Like I said in line, that was OC Todd Mulkin. 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:42.160 Next up is defensive coordinator Mike McDonald. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:50.880 Good to see everybody, What do you got? I can't 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:55.960 be this easy obviously. Jacksonville last year was a tough 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.480 way to the end that game. We didn't get a 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:01.920 chance to ask you after the Cleveland game and how 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:03.320 that kind of ended in the forty quarter. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.040 Yeah, you guys are usually good. You know, quarter one 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.680 through quarter four, But when there have been those falloffs 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:14.479 in the fourth quarter, has it been easy to pinpoint 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.840 what has kind of contributed to those those sudden collapses. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.320 Yeah, well, so talking about the Cleveland game, Uh, we're 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:26.880 in a two minute situation and then at some point 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.320 it really becomes a four minute situation, you know, when 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:32.520 time kind of goes back on their side and they're 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:34.120 trying to kick a field goal. So are our mind 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.800 kind of shifts in that in that particular situation. The 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.600 Jacksonville game last year was a straight up, Hey, they 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.280 got four downs, they got plenty of time to go 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.240 down and score. We got to stop them and that 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:47.360 you know, with that game, we had a we got 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.040 them to a third and long, you know, had two 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:51.760 downs to try to get them to fourth down, and 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.160 you know we didn't didn't make those plays to make it. 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:56.160 I think when you when you're looking at you know, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.800 fourth quarter drives to win the game, you're not really 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:01.880 thinking in terms of the calls and plays. You're thinking 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.480 in players of players and matchups. And my guys understand, 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:07.200 you know, it's hard to stop a team before down. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.439 So a lot of times it's a takeaway or a 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:11.680 sack that you know, it leads to victories of the situation. 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.520 So our mindset is to go out and play our 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.560 technique and be aggressive, and you know, obviously there's a 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:20.959 strategy involved and what the things that the offenses are 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:22.359 doing and the things that we're you know, kind of 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:24.680 countering with on defense. And that changed from game to game, 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.879 but the philosopy is always the same. We want to 0:17:26.880 --> 0:17:28.080 be we want to be in a tack boat and 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:31.680 stay aggressive and ultimately, you know, it's gonna it's gonna 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:33.719 take a play, you know, to win those types of games. 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.120 Impressed for you with Kyle Hamilton's toughness me tweaks Ane 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:41.320 comes back in tweaked it again. He said he wanted 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.439 to come back in until you guys set him down. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.680 And he's already practicing this week. I mean, just beyond 0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.600 his talents, with which are a given. I mean, what 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.760 does that say about someone just wanting to be out. 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:52.040 There like that? 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:54.760 Yeah, well you said, I mean it's he's a tough guy. 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.080 And uh, you know, just I think, you know, talking 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:59.960 to him about what he was thinking through the situation, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.280 and it was, you know, he's a It was a 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.879 funny story to hear about it, you know, because it 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.480 was the there was a play before where he hit 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.760 you know, he tackled the crosser and then come back, 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.560 didn't really realize it was banged up until later. Probably 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.520 had some adrenaline going in that situation. But yeah, he's 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.040 a he's a tough dude. 0:18:15.520 --> 0:18:19.040 With Trevor Lawrence, obviously, his ability to run is something 0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.560 to monitor. He was coming off the ankle injury before. 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:23.240 When when you look back at the film, did you 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.760 see see a quarterback that can still very much hurt 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.879