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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Monday, Monday. Can't trust that day or a fart. Hey,

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Speaker 2: it's Morning Combat coming to you live in direct from

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Speaker 2: New York City, Monday, December sixteenth, twenty twenty four. They

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Speaker 2: used to give us awards for this show. My name

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Speaker 2: is Brian Campbell. That BBC with that bde the American Alpha,

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Speaker 2: the beij bastard who just absolutely brings it, you know,

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Speaker 2: the other white guy who works too much. And then

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Speaker 2: my partner is, uh, you are you okay?

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Speaker 1: Look Thomas, Well, I'm okay, I'm okay.

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Speaker 2: It looks serious about the fight game right now?

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Speaker 1: Tired? Yeah, that four am alarm, it went early.

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Speaker 2: You know, especially in Hartford, it can be very bitter.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean I mean Harford, the land that time forgot.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is but we made it and that's all

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Speaker 2: that matters. Happy Holidays to you all out there. I

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Speaker 2: hope you are fired up for combat sports as we are,

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Speaker 2: Looking back on the final UFC event of the calendar

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Speaker 2: year of twenty twenty four, Tampa Fight Night, Buckley Covington

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Speaker 2: so much more. We will also set the stage for

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Speaker 2: title rematch on Saturday in Abu Dhabi, as Alexander Usik

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Speaker 2: Well, come on give me that, give me that Connor

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Speaker 1: You know you're desperate for, like an unbelievably throbbing hard

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Speaker 1: It's getting pretty close. I'm obviously very excited about it.

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Speaker 1: I rewatched the fight on the way here, yes, just

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Speaker 1: Usick was lighting them up. He was lighting them up like.

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Speaker 2: Rules Luke Nocita Luke.

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Speaker 1: Does she got one of those girlfriends? That's unusual.

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Speaker 1: It is true. However, it felt fucking great.

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Speaker 2: Did you let out like orgasmic groans where people were

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Speaker 1: So he collects teeth of children to build his houses.

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Speaker 2: How do you allow that? Giving your dark soul?

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Speaker 1: I think you understand. Happy wife, happy life, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Every what do I give a shit? You know what

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe, just maybe, just maybe the baby Jesus

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Speaker 1: But anyway, so I respect my wife's traditions. I don't

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Speaker 1: I think it is.

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Speaker 1: This is first of all, he had a fantastic calendar year,

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Speaker 2: Buckley had fifteen in like the last five years. Colby

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Speaker 6: That was a fantastic performance in a great appreciate you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, my first main event was a big success.

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Speaker 1: You gotta protect the fighters.

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Speaker 7: But I feel like twenty twenty five, man, it is

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Speaker 8: Bro.

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Speaker 7: I'm definitely looking to take that throwing man twenty twenty five. Bro,

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Speaker 2: Hey one and done. That's why I like it right

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Speaker 1: we indicated, performed more than ably looks awesome, has earned it.

438
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Speaker 2: Likable showed up at our three Margarita show after it ended.

439
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,399
Speaker 1: And thinking about and thinking about how he started the

440
00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: year with that weird Connor McGregor call out. I'd like

441
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 1: to have the fans being like, what are you doing?

442
00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 1: And now what is he doing? Less is more? Say

443
00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,520
Speaker 1: less right, and look at the result. We're all like, dude,

444
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,840
Speaker 1: this fucking guy is great. He started off the year, yes,

445
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: winning obviously, but trying to appeal to the fan base

446
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 1: kind of a ham fisted way that didn't work. And

447
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:49,639
Speaker 1: now he learned from it. He watched, he observed, he changed,

448
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: and now we couldn't be higher on him. This is

449
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: as high as we've ever been on him, and he

450
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 1: earned every part of it.

451
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: We've been this high, just not on him.

452
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Speaker 1: My discontinued food.

453
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 2: Let's get or to Baka's history or maybe Anakin be

454
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,040
Speaker 2: in a bitch. We're gonna get to who he called

455
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 2: out and who could be next. But let's talk about

456
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: that cut that happened to Kolby Covington in round one,

457
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Speaker 2: right on the hairline of his right eye, which means

458
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Speaker 2: it was directly into his eye, compromising his vision. And

459
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Speaker 2: then I think Colby at times was sort of pawing

460
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Speaker 2: at it, maybe for the time, and it was opening

461
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Speaker 2: it back up. I have the video, but I don't

462
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Speaker 2: think we can show I don't want to get shut

463
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Speaker 2: down off Kolbe walking out with Coke jail sudden, the

464
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 2: hell's happening here? But Luke Dana would say afterwards, here's

465
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Speaker 2: what's interesting. They asked Dana about how good Buckley did,

466
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Speaker 2: and he barely said anything about Buckley and only big

467
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Speaker 2: up Colby's heart, determination, toughness. These are things that are true.

468
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Speaker 2: I would have liked to hear a little bit more

469
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Speaker 2: about all the great stuff Buckley did. But one thing

470
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Speaker 2: Dana said was if this fight was in Vegas, that

471
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Speaker 2: fight does not get stopped. They would let that cut, fight,

472
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Speaker 2: that cut go. I want to get your opinion if

473
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Speaker 2: Dana's right or B does it even matter? Was that

474
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Speaker 2: fight heading a certain direction anyway?

475
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Speaker 1: So he is definitely right. He is right. If that

476
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Speaker 1: fight had taken place in Nevada, it is almost certainly

477
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Speaker 1: you're going to have much more experienced fight ringside physicians

478
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Speaker 1: who have kind of seen a wide array of cuts

479
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: through a lot of experience and kind of know what

480
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Speaker 1: to go and what to let continue and whatnot. Also,

481
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Speaker 1: you're just dealing with a commission there that works at

482
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Speaker 1: the service of UFC. They don't regulate UFC. UFC regulates.

483
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: Then we should just say that out loud.

484
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Speaker 2: In which state every state they go to, or.

485
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Speaker 1: Well especially Nevada. Yeah, I mean, let's be honest.

486
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Speaker 2: I mean, who has good states anymore California and New York.

487
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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think Nevada is necessarily the worst commission

488
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Speaker 1: in the world. There are certain things they do do

489
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Speaker 1: better than others. If by no other reason then because

490
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Speaker 1: of the volume of fights that take place in the state.

491
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Speaker 1: But I just want to make a point here, like

492
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Speaker 1: we recently have seen Nevada continue to employ on both

493
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Speaker 1: the boxing and MMA side, Adelaide Bird, who is easily

494
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Speaker 1: during my time covering fights, if not the worst, certainly

495
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Speaker 1: one of the worst judges by the way inboxing, and mme,

496
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Speaker 1: it's not like they're good at one or the other,

497
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Speaker 1: they're bad at both, and they continue to do that.

498
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Speaker 1: This is the same commission that tried to destroy Nick

499
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Speaker 1: Diaz's career. You will have to forgive me if I

500
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Speaker 1: do not look at the Nevada commission as a marker

501
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Speaker 1: of excellence. If the ringside physician felt like that was

502
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Speaker 1: a bad enough cut, and by the way, it wasn't

503
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Speaker 1: a very bad place. It wasn't on the eyebrow line

504
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Speaker 1: or above it. It was on the actual eye lid.

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Speaker 2: Dude, when he finally took Buckley down that one time,

506
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 2: did you see the smiles? The blood Buckley's knee from

507
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: Colby's face just so bad?

508
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: It was so bad, And so for that reason, I

509
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Speaker 1: trust that ringside physician's overall judgment. This is a kin

510
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Speaker 1: something akin to what we got in New York when

511
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Speaker 1: we had the first BMF fight between Nate and Jorge.

512
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Speaker 1: You had a ringside physician who probably was not as

513
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Speaker 1: experienced as ones in Nevada, California, and so they called

514
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Speaker 1: it a little bit early. But to the point you raised,

515
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Speaker 1: does it even matter, dude, Colby was getting demolished. I

516
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,919
Speaker 1: don't he wasn't. He had lost both the first and

517
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Speaker 1: second round on all three judges scorecards. There were some

518
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Speaker 1: mistakes I thought Buckley was making in the third, but nevertheless,

519
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: you know that cut could have gotten really, really bad.

520
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: Colby is closer to forty than he is thirty. I

521
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Speaker 1: don't really mind the stop.

522
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: No, no no, And even though Colby had that takedown

523
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Speaker 2: a round two, Buckley heard him in that same round

524
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Speaker 2: and seemed to have won it from that equation. Anyway,

525
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Speaker 2: you mentioned a Ken. I want to mention a Ken,

526
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Speaker 2: our sound guy. Ken. Normally it's cold as balls in

527
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: here right now, I'm sweating like a horn church. Are

528
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Speaker 2: you feeling that.

529
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Speaker 1: It's a little warmer than normally? Yeah. I put this

530
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Speaker 1: on too, thinking it was going to be cold.

531
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Speaker 2: But yeah, we'll oh, thank you so much, Long Island

532
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 2: and Ken. I appreciate you, guys. I just think it

533
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 2: was where it was, and everything we said about Colby

534
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: coming in was true. We knew he was going to

535
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 2: be tough, we knew he had the potential to slow

536
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: down the things up he does well, but did he

537
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Speaker 2: have enough to stop it? Did he have enough to

538
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: hurt him striking, we didn't see that. We saw a willingness.

539
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 2: I guess he was more game than the Leon loss,

540
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,479
Speaker 2: where injury was a thing. But we're still seeing a

541
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Speaker 2: downward trend of Colby being exciting or effective in there

542
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Speaker 2: at this level. So Luke, before we get into the

543
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Speaker 2: future of Buckley and what could be next at thirty six,

544
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 2: now suffering back to back losses for the first time

545
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Speaker 2: in his pro career, what could or should be next

546
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Speaker 2: for Covington. I feel like we all just want to

547
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: knee jerk say, well, he's proven to us now he's

548
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 2: no longer at that elite level, so what is there

549
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: else to prove? He should walk away? But I wonder

550
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: if that's playing into how annoying he can be at sometimes.

551
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: Is there still a role for him? Can he be

552
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 2: one of those guys in your opinion, who faces the

553
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: up and comers coming up and becomes that litmus test?

554
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: Should he want to be that? What is left for Colby?

555
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 1: He's not completely irrelevant, It's a little premature to say

556
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: he's completely irrelevant, but he is mostly irrelevant.

557
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 2: So just grudge matches with people that he's been in

558
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: verbal wars with the poor guys.

559
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Speaker 1: You could do People have said you could do the

560
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Speaker 1: Wonder Boy fight. I also saw some suggestions over the

561
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: weekend he could do a Gilbert Burns fight. I don't

562
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Speaker 1: know if he can win either of those at this point.

563
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Speaker 1: I mean maybe the one.

564
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Speaker 2: Aging names is what you're saying, aging names.

565
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something he really wants to do. But I

566
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Speaker 1: think there's a moment we have to kind of reflect

567
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: on what is ha happened with Colby Covington. There was

568
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: an interesting debate on Twitter over the weekend about what

569
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: was Colby ever elite? Was he ever elite? Brian, I

570
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: have a few thoughts. I'd like that, yes he was.

571
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Speaker 1: What makes what would at his peak, what would make

572
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Speaker 1: him elite.

573
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Speaker 2: Even though he was largely one dimensional and even though

574
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Speaker 2: the biggest wins that propelled him to start him did

575
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Speaker 2: come against aging names that were on the other side

576
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: of the hill. Robbie Lawler would be a big example

577
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: of that. For example, he was able to weaponize the

578
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Speaker 2: combination of his stamina, his forward pressure, and his wrestling

579
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Speaker 2: to a very elite level where he was a problem.

580
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: He could drown people. And I think I still give

581
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: him a ton of credit for his performance toe to

582
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: toe on the feet in the first Ousman title fight.

583
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: That was felt like a pickup fight going into that

584
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: final round, and he ultimately had his jaw broken and

585
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: was stopped. But the limitations of that one dimensional sort

586
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 2: of aura around him, I never thought we're going to

587
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Speaker 2: make him age all that well. So was he elite?

588
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 2: I think you have to say for a season he was.

589
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 2: He went in there against the champion and gave him

590
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: all he could handle twice. I mean that with Usman

591
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: was also close and competitive, but he was great enough

592
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: to get over that hill. He wasn't well rounded enough

593
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: to be a high level pump for pong guy. At

594
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Speaker 2: his very peak, he was what he was, a title

595
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: contending for a season, elite fighter who propelled his stick

596
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: in persona to probably more fame than his skills allowed.

597
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 2: But I don't think we should say anything more than that.

598
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Speaker 1: I think that's maybe close to being right. His best

599
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: win is probably somewhere between the Don Kyng Kim win

600
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Speaker 1: and the Robbie Lawler win. I know he won the

601
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Speaker 1: interim title obviously defeating RDA, but rda kind of a

602
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: blown up lightweight, very skilled, but a blown up lightweight,

603
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 1: but the Demi and Maya fight, he kind of got

604
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: pieced up on the feet a little bit on that

605
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Speaker 1: one overall winning. Zane Simon had a good analysis over

606
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Speaker 1: the weekend, saying, if you look at what Kolbe represented

607
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Speaker 1: at the time he was at his peak, he had

608
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Speaker 1: one of these really intensive labor styles where he could

609
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Speaker 1: just throw a lot of volume at you, a ton

610
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Speaker 1: of cardio, a ton of wrestling, a ton of position dominance,

611
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: a ton of you know, pitter patter shots, but volume

612
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: in that sense. The Robbie Lawler fight is kind of

613
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: the peak of that. But I mean, this is a

614
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: guy who traded friendships, traded relationships, traded business entanglements for

615
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: an identity that he had banked on using this volume striking,

616
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: this volume attacking kind of thing, and then I'm just

617
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: going to burn every bridge and then use the light

618
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: of these flames to gain attention for myself. But it

619
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: actually never really worked in the end, he didn't get

620
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: nearly far enough.

621
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Speaker 2: Well, I can argue it worked when you consider what

622
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: do you have lines three pay per views, like that's

623
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: not nothing.

624
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: Well, he was gifted title shots. I can certainly agree

625
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: with that, But I'm saying he doesn't really have a

626
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: signature win. Sure, he didn't ever become champion. He was

627
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: an interesting foil that people wanted to root against, which

628
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: has some value. But I think looking back on his career,

629
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Speaker 1: there is a question about whether he was a leader.

630
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Speaker 1: I think he was for a very brief moment in time.

631
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Speaker 2: Isn't it very similar to Jail's resume and legacy. Here's

632
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: the difference where you're noted for being the trash talking

633
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: b side and competitive title fights, but you never got

634
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Speaker 2: over the.

635
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: Hump, right, But let's talk about the differences between Colby

636
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: and Jail. Chail did many, many, many, many of the things,

637
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: and of course was walking him out, cornering him, consoling

638
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 1: him after the fight, which I thought.

639
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: It was a little weird to see that, even though

640
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,199
Speaker 2: I know that they were close, Yeah I didn't. I

641
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 2: wasn't shocked that they were friendly. It was weird to

642
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: see him as the head trainer.

643
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: The difference is that Chail found a way over time

644
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 1: to endear himself to the fan base. Following UFC two

645
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: forty five, Colby blamed Mark Goddard being an American. He

646
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: blamed an uneven calling of the fouls in that fight

647
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: that were just totally made up. Following UFC two sixty eight,

648
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 1: he accused Kamara Usman of cheating of the judges not

649
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: liking his conservative values. Following the Leon Edwards loss, he

650
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: blamed a mysterious foot ailment and then high altitude poisoning.

651
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: As well as campaigning with Donald Trump, he had has

652
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: made any number of excuses for poor performance when he

653
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: was actually tested against some of the very best guys

654
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: in his division. That is the exact opposite of what

655
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: chail Son and did chaill So no no, no, no, no, no

656
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 1: no chaill Son and showed up to press conferences. Yeah,

657
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: and if he got his ass whooped, would say he

658
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: got his ass whipped by a better guy and hendefeated.

659
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: I just wanted to add that.

660
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but he almost does that in a sort

661
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: of a common stick. This guy like slams the character

662
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: of anyone who doesn't work in service to his big,

663
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: stupid lies, and that is not only off putting, it

664
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: kind of shows you what the real subtle difference is

665
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: between him and a guy who understands audience manipulation in

666
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: all its various forms. This dude can only light fires

667
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: he can only be an arsonist. Chail was an arsonist

668
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: and a firefighter at the same time, and that is

669
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: to me a pretty significant difference. In the end, you

670
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: just do not have this cornucopia of every part. I mean, dude,

671
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: if you I can't even get into it. You get

672
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: the idea. There is a gigantic difference between the two.

673
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: Not so much how the competitive career itself on the

674
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: resumes turned out, but how they were received because how

675
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: they handled it, and then what that bought them down

676
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: the line.

677
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: Well, and there's also a cost of that. The cost

678
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: is that a lot of us are going, yeah, maybe

679
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: you should just finish. I'm kind of done with him.

680
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: But to his credit, if you want to call it that,

681
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: maybe it doesn't have to be become a standard bearer,

682
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, sorry, become a gatekeeper to the next, you know,

683
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: the next growing fighters or not. We mentioned the idea

684
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: of fun fights against other old guys. But if he's

685
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: done one thing positive for himself within this negativity that

686
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 2: you're talking about, this this cloud of constant, purposeful negativity,

687
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: is he's created enough beefs where I'm wondering if the

688
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: UFC matchmakers believe that there's not a few more tickets

689
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: they can cash.

690
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: How good is the beef if you don't believe in

691
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: one guy's ability to do it?

692
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I certainly agree with you on that, and

693
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: I think his lack of activity in between these big

694
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: fights has always hurt him proper, not only hurt him

695
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: in his ability to perform in those but it doesn't

696
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: people think his ranking is only celebrity given because he's

697
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: not out there beating him. He hasn't beaten a guy

698
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: in the top fifteen since like twenty nineteen. That's somebody

699
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: that hasn't been in the top fifteen that he's beaten

700
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: for such a long time.

701
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, if I may. Did

702
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: you see some of the post fight footage from his

703
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: YouTube channel. No, he's talking with Chail backstage, and you know,

704
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: he's kind of licking his wounds, which is fine.

705
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 2: He's like, Olk, how do I tear this shirt?

706
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: Here? What we do?

707
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: We rip it up the front?

708
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? Learning racial slurs I'm sure from Hulkgan. But the

709
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: reality is he was kind of looking at his wounds,

710
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: which is normal, and then he's like, you know, not

711
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: bad for a three week camp. Why did he take

712
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: this fight. Do you think.

713
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: I wonder if he had been pushing for a big

714
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: fight and it had been no, no, no, no no,

715
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: and then there's this opportunity. And if you really think

716
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: about it, he probably looked at new Manza as limited

717
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: and I think to some degree even US critics and

718
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: experts did. We saw him surging, but you still look

719
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: at the guy and go okay. In theory, I probably

720
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: could expose these areas. So in his mind, he probably thought,

721
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: I'm fighting a rank guy who to me is beatable,

722
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: and even on short notice, my only chance of crashing

723
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: back into the party. Because I think he realized that

724
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: his celebrity alone wasn't going to be enough to get

725
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: him back in the title picture like it had been.

726
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: Right the loss to Edwards, he just looks so bad.

727
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: He's been out of our minds for so long. So

728
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: I think he thought this is probably the best opportunity

729
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: to get a huge win, to get me that Ian

730
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 2: Gary fight that it seems like he's been trying to

731
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: build toward with the constant comments about Gary. That's what

732
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: I thought. I think he strategically saw this as his

733
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: best opportunity to become a player again.

734
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: And now I have a different theory.

735
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: And now it's really like what grudges do people care

736
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: about enough where you can cash in that ticket of

737
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: the time you put in ripping that guy, you know

738
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like is is he gonna fight Brian Ortega?

739
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: They had a thing for a while, you know what

740
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean. It's like it's all that's that's what he's

741
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: down to, Either that or nothing or go away, because

742
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: I think a lot of us are sick of him,

743
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: not just in what he spouts out of his mouth,

744
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: but his fights have certain limitations because the limitations of

745
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 2: his skill set.

746
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: To be fair, I have a different theory. Okay, may

747
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: I please do you notice he never really did any

748
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: trash talk about Buckley. In fact, he left every kind

749
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: of trash talk opportunity to Chail, who didn't make it

750
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: about Buckley at all.

751
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: I mean he did call him irrelevant and stuff like that.

752
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,239
Speaker 1: Okay, but that's sort of standard garden variety, you know,

753
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: trash talk, such that the fighters all kind of consider

754
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: all of their opponents in that way. And then afterwards

755
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: he had mentioned in again you gotta watch this footagehere

756
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: he kind of talks about doing the company a favor

757
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: I think he took that fight, maybe because he was

758
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: under pressure to like get something into the calendar in

759
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. But more to the point, I actually

760
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: feel a little bit differently. He might have believed a

761
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: part of himself like, you know, if I can really,

762
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: if I can get that wrestling going, I might have

763
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: a chance against this guy. But what I really think

764
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: he was doing was buying himself good favor with the promotion,

765
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 1: knowing that his days to beat top guys, get.

766
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: Those uh idea this solid you get me back, right.

767
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Because he knows his days are numbered. He can't beat

768
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: these guys outright, but what he can do is he

769
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: can nobly lose to them, do the UFC a favor,

770
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: and then get another opportunity as a consequence.

771
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: And maybe that's why Dana not only avoided playing up

772
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: the success, Buckley hadn't praising him. It was all about, well,

773
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: hey man, Kobe fought so hard and he's a warrior

774
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah. Maybe that's what it was,

775
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: to be fair, Maybe that those kinds of comments support it.

776
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: I just think the other the way people think that's

777
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: nakedly political, And of course it could be like they

778
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: share well yes and no. I mean you could be

779
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: the strongest whoever supporter that data doesn't like. But if

780
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 1: Mick Maynard and Sean Shelby call you and they need

781
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: you on short notice and you can make weight and

782
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 1: you say yes, they're gonna look the other way. That

783
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: is the number one service that you can do to

784
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: the UFC. Be ready take a short notice fight, even

785
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,479
Speaker 1: when it's not in your interest. They love that shit.

786
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: He did it well. I'm sure it's a good payday too,

787
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 2: to save them on three weeks notice. All that be

788
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: in the main event. It's also in Florida. Like I

789
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: think it was a calculated move overall for Colby, he

790
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 2: just lost and didn't make me want to see him again.

791
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean he did fight nobly did fight with Hart,

792
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: but I'm just kind of done with this experience. Let's

793
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: talk about what's next for new Mansa though, because Buckley

794
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 2: earned himself yet another huge fight. I didn't hate the

795
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: shtick he had afterwards Luke where he said I'm gonna

796
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 2: say three names, let's get the crowd's response. Those three

797
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: names were Leon Edwards, Kamara Ustman, and the champ himself,

798
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 2: Belal Muhammad He and interviewer Michael Bisping, who was extra

799
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: BISPINGI on this on this broadcast.

800
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you hear this being make fun of jail?

801
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: For yes, I do not, for he was he never

802
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: stops talking.

803
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm like pot and kettle right there. Uh, they said her.

804
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: They seem to center upon Kamara Usman. And because of

805
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 2: how little interest I have in Usman lingering in the

806
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: title picture only because of his name, even though he's

807
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: lost his last three, he hasn't fought at Walter Waite

808
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 2: in a handful of years. I do like this fight

809
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 2: as sort of elite level gatekeeping from him that if

810
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: he can go out there and beat new Manza, could

811
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 2: it push him back into a huge fight. It might,

812
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 2: But I'd rather him have to go earn it than

813
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: just who's gonna fight Shavka. Is it gonna be Gary

814
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 2: or is it just gonna be Usman? Like we think.

815
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: I like that it wasn't Usman and that Gary fight,

816
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: And I would like this fight for both Buckley and Usman.

817
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you though? Okay, because you read Sean Brady

818
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: defeats old guy Gilbert Burns again relatively speaking, obviously shot

819
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Cottony and Gary had to fight each other. But Buckley

820
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: defeats Covington, old guy and also wonder boy Thompson. It's

821
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: an old division though, right, But we need we need

822
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: this process all to push out new Jack. Dela Maddelena

823
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: has been sort of suggested he's going to be fighting Camaru. Yes,

824
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: that makes more sense, young guy versus old guy. We've

825
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: seen Buckley have to take out the tracks.

826
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: So back tobaccle or old guys is too much, I guest.

827
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to. He just fought Thompson and Covington

828
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: back to back. I don't need to see another old guy.

829
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: What Sean Brady situation?

830
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: Right? Waiting on a fight? Waiting on a fight? Has

831
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: it coming off that Gilbert Burns went a big one.

832
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: Talk me into that fight? Why would the UFC do

833
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: that Buckley versus Yeah, but Brady wasn't on in Buckley's list.

834
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 2: But would the UFC do that? Or who is Leon

835
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: going to fight?

836
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: Because you know Leon Leon?

837
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: So I need you to book the territory for me

838
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: at Walter. Wait, when are we going to see Ballall

839
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 2: shoff got depends on Shofcut's status.

840
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: Right, No? I mean I don't know if he takes

841
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: ra ramadan Off, but I think it was more Blals

842
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: getting back with the filler.

843
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 2: You fight Gilbert during Ramadan I think he might.

844
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Not everybody, not every Muslim fighter chicks ramadan Off. I don't.

845
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if he doesn't, I can ask Danny Rue.

846
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: But the point I want to make was the Leon fight.

847
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 1: To me, your UFC London, Now that makes a lot

848
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: of sense. You can say, well, old guy, but he

849
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: just came off a title loss. He's not quite super

850
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: super old guy. Like what he's he got left? Are

851
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,280
Speaker 1: we sure about him? We now know Buckley is roughly speaking,

852
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: basically a top fiveish guy. Chuck me into it, right,

853
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: that's the fight.

854
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: To me, he chuck me into it. He wouldn't get

855
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: as much necessary critique that he or necessary critical value

856
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: that he still lacks because he's gone through old guys

857
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 2: by giving m Kamara.

858
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: You're right say jam also fought Gilbert, and so does

859
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: he need to fight a Kamaru. No, you could put

860
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: you could put those two guys together. You could put

861
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 1: JDM and buck Me together. Know you're kind of cannibalizing

862
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: because Leon's waiting.

863
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 2: Why don't just put JDM and Sean Brady again.

864
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: There Sean Brady versus Leon in London and then you

865
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 4: do Yeah.

866
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 2: I like Leon, you can do that Leon versus Buckley

867
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: as that you've won me over on them.

868
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The problem I have with Leon taking

869
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: on Sean Brady is Leon had to fight Colby and

870
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Kumaru three times. We've kind of seen him do this

871
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: kind of wrestler type guy. I'm looking for something a

872
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: little bit new.

873
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that would be exciting to the

874
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: UFC and the matchmakers to make that because they know

875
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: Buckley's going to push and go for the knockout even

876
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: when he's losing. We've seen that before. I like that

877
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: quality and Buckley that if he's down and out, he's

878
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: still firing back and trying to find a chance to win.

879
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm down with that. Very well done. We

880
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 2: nailed it, so we solved all the time to prob Luke.

881
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: I want to move on to topic number two, which

882
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,919
Speaker 2: is the remainder of the UFC Tampa card, which did

883
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 2: give us, from Cub Swanson to Manel cop and so

884
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 2: many more a lot to talk about. So because of

885
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: that Luke breakthrough, knockouts being so a plenty at UFC Tampa,

886
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,760
Speaker 2: with everyone from Cub Cop, Dustin Jacoby, Michael Johnson, Joel

887
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: Al Oliveras Shawn Woodson all delivering what seemed like breakthrough

888
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: ko's to further themselves ahead, which one of those six

889
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 2: fighters ultimately was the most impressive on.

890
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: Saying, oh, that's a good question. Most impressive. They were

891
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: really good KOs up and down. That is true. I'm

892
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: not gonna say Manel Copp even though it was really good,

893
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: because it was a little controversial because was the guy

894
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: kicked in the balls first?

895
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 2: He was, you know, there was that it was, but

896
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 2: the replay showed it was kind of borderline.

897
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: At the same time, the Cub Swanson KO was absolutely

898
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: fucking magic. I mean, God bless Billy Corntillo. He fights

899
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: the way you would imagine he was gonna fight. He

900
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: was so big too, I couldn't believe I'm much bigger.

901
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: He looked.

902
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: He did what he said he would do, which which

903
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: is he did.

904
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: It exactly what he said he was going to do,

905
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: and that sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, But God

906
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: bless him for fighting that way. Dustin Jacobe fight with

907
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: Vietuo Petrino was terrible until the knockout. Now, the knockout

908
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: itself was fucking spectacular, but I didn't love it.

909
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: It was a great knock.

910
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: Can I just say the one that I wanted to

911
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: give the biggest shout out to also Michael Johnson sending

912
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: Ottman Azatar to the land of wind and was remarkable.

913
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: And then give him those two extra uh well hendo

914
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 2: on visiting just some extra.

915
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: Nails into the coffin there. I was like, holy sham.

916
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: Joel Alvarez, Joel Alvarez is the guy that deserves a

917
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: shout out. He has two losses in his UFC campaign.

918
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: Damirs mcgoulov was a very good fighter and then Arminsar

919
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: Yuki in But for that, he's finishing everybody. And I've

920
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 1: never seen a guy capture a guillotine choke and then

921
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: punch with the opposite hand into the guy's grill like this.

922
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: That was vicious. He is vicious. He should be fun.

923
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: He's fun to watch.

924
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: By the way, do you now understand why I'm not

925
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: super high on your car? Close there?

926
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 4: Alongland, I was going to say, you gotta give me

927
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 4: credit for saying that fight was going to be a

928
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: banger man.

929
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I knew it was going to be a banger

930
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 1: But you're like, I don't want to understand why Dr

931
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: Krkolos is on the prelims.

932
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 4: Do you understand now, No, I said, I don't understand

933
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 4: why that fight as a whole.

934
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: You Luke on Luke Crime here, Yeah, we know Luke

935
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: on Luke Crime. That's true.

936
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 4: Either way, that was sick.

937
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: It was sick. It was amazing. Joel Alvarez needs to

938
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: be on main cards. They need to push this guy up.

939
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: The UFC's talking about going to Spain. You need a

940
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 1: supporting cast.

941
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 2: Yes, you do.

942
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: Holy shit, this is the guy that is.

943
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 2: They put him on the main card, put him in

944
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: a big step up fight because he certainly earned that.

945
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to move past Cop because to me,

946
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: that was the most impressive, maybe not the finish itself,

947
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: being more impressive than some of these other ko's we

948
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: talked about, but to me, this was clearly an audition

949
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 2: for a title shot, and Cop was auditioning between rounds

950
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: and being all over Dana after the fight, cage side,

951
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: all over Dana to the point that the camera was

952
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: picking up the conversation and Dana's like I'll catch up

953
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: with you in the back. I promise you I will,

954
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: although Dana would end up saying in the press conference

955
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: afterwards that he does not believe this is enough for

956
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: Cop to be next, nor should Cop next, which tends

957
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: to make you believe it's going to be kay car Franz.

958
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: Cop to me was virtuoso at times, and it's always

959
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: going to be a Cop fight where there's gonna be fouls,

960
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: whether it's Tim doing it or receiving it, and he

961
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: received a few as well. But dude, the way he flowed,

962
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: we don't see that all the time at one twenty five,

963
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: and it was against a guy on a four fight

964
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: win streak who had been finishing people, like a guy

965
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: who had some momentum there and fall hard in defeat.

966
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I saw a different level of

967
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: confidence and almost an octopus likability from Cop to be

968
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: everywhere in that fight where he needed to be countering,

969
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: dipping in and out, and still giving you the flavor

970
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: on top of it. And still afterwards in the interview

971
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 2: going I'm on ESPN, don't worry, I won't say anything bad,

972
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 2: but fuck on a sun, You're like, hell yeah, dude,

973
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: I mean, he said, f KI car fence too. He said,

974
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: f everybody.

975
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: Oh, it was like seven or eight guys.

976
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 2: But like, I love me what Cop is all about?

977
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: In fact, Cop at the postfight press conference said, if

978
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: Dana doesn't give him what he wants, he's gonna go

979
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: get it. Let's hear from him.

980
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 9: I'm here a long time in NEWFC. I'm thirty one

981
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 9: years old. I'm not gonna be thirty one forever, so

982
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 9: it's my time till they at the TUTA shot.

983
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: And then last thing for me, You and Dana Why

984
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 6: were having a conversation through the through the fence walls

985
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 6: and then Dana said, all right, enjoy your moment. Five minutes,

986
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,280
Speaker 6: I'll meet you back and we'll talk. Did a conversation happen?

987
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 9: Uh? Me and Dan and we have neighbors. We leave

988
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 9: it ten minutes away with each other. You know, if

989
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 9: he don't get that conversation, you know, I'm going to

990
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 9: ease home. You know, I'm going to knock his door

991
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 9: because we live in summer in Vegas, so it's easy.

992
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 9: I'm got him home.

993
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: Invasion, threatened, threatened a little much. You know, he said

994
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 2: some controversial things in the past. He's still still tied

995
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 2: to that Machia fight that sucked. All those things are true,

996
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: and maybe Kay car France, with the fan base that

997
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: he has, it would make sense that would be an

998
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: extra Pantosia. And you have to add in that Pantosia

999
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: did beat Cop when they met in the UFC a

1000
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: bunch of years ago by decision. But with that said,

1001
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: whether Cop has to get another fight to get to

1002
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: that step or not, you have to take him super

1003
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: serious now from this fight in my opinion, And I

1004
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: know he had just lost to Mokia, so it's not

1005
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,959
Speaker 2: like he's he was on some grand wind streak. I'm

1006
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: just seeing the level of the level of confidence. I

1007
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 2: think he's right what he said in the cage afterwards, Luke,

1008
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: when he said he said, I'm the real fly whit

1009
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: pay per view star. That was aggressive. But what he's

1010
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 2: trying to say is there's nobody with my flavor, with

1011
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: my attitude, with my rawness, with the ability to play

1012
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 2: up a fight. He will talk junk. He'll show up

1013
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: at Pantosia's door and probably say something hugely inappropriate. Yeah,

1014
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,240
Speaker 2: he's a wild card, would do this. Guy brings eyeballs.

1015
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: I love his I love it.

1016
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: I agree with all of that. Do you think the

1017
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: way that things went down with Makayev pre fight is

1018
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: spooked UFC at all?

1019
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: I wonder, I don't know that whole thing was weird.

1020
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: What about that long Island luke that they were just

1021
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: constantly like fighting in the fucking hotel.

1022
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, I do think Cop might have a little

1023
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: uh issues there. And also he's missed waited a couple

1024
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 4: of times. I don't I don't know why Dana won't

1025
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 4: get him the title shot if not for those things.

1026
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe Dan's just like, look, you're on a

1027
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 2: good roll. Now, this is a good stretch. Get one more.

1028
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 2: There's plenty of good names in this division coming off

1029
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: of losses, right Like, there's a lot of this division's

1030
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: constantly going in different directions at the same time, except

1031
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: for at the title level with Pantosia Kai car France next.

1032
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 2: But it's time to get Cop poised in the bullpen

1033
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: and ready to go for that next shot after that, And.

1034
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: The wait miss is big because obviously you don't get

1035
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: the one on the allowance for the title fight. The

1036
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: UFC hates it when they need guys on short notice

1037
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: to make weight or obviously for title fights to make weight,

1038
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: and they don't. That is one of the things that

1039
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: pisses them all.

1040
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: As as is if you're a wild card and you

1041
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 2: can get in a fight at any public event where

1042
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 2: you could throw the whole card off. I get that.

1043
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. Even the comments too, even

1044
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: the the oh the home home, like he goes too

1045
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: far in a lot of categories. He also couldn't win

1046
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: the title on any given night. And I know he

1047
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: hasn't been as consistent as he looked long isn't look

1048
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: am I wrong? And like telling you like he looked like,

1049
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1050
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: That was the best he's looked, almost virtuoso. I think

1051
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: he fought in.

1052
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 4: Japan definitely the best he's ever looked in the UFC

1053
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 4: by far, no question.

1054
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the credit of opponent, the caliber of opponent

1055
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: was pretty high, right it was.

1056
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: He's the other still complained about Coppyside from the stuff

1057
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: that he you know, just being a hothead. Let's put

1058
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: it that way, is that he does a lot of styling,

1059
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: and then he does taunting, and then he goes back

1060
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: to styling, and then he goes back to taunting and

1061
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: then he goes back to styling, and it's just like,

1062
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: let's skip the taunting part and just put them away.

1063
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: I think it fuels his flow. I think it does.

1064
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it also you do that against elite super

1065
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: League guys and you're gonna lose the fight.

1066
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,479
Speaker 2: Oh, Pantosia will fill that gap with a two punch

1067
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: counter combination immediately.

1068
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: Yes, immediately. You cannot do.

1069
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: That, dude, Oh my god. Him against Asakura would be

1070
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: fire already, I know. But doing it in the UFC

1071
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: KA they thought twice already they each have a win,

1072
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: which means the trilogy has storyline. Since is that next?

1073
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 4: What about Moreno?

1074
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could do it. You could do either of

1075
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: those two.

1076
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: No, here's here's my call, rovol and Moreno go to

1077
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: a trilogy and we do cop against Oscacura three. What

1078
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: do you think about that? Two trilogies, two on the

1079
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: same card, two flyway trilogies on the same day.

1080
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: You do that? M hm, that'd be all right.

1081
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Care about this division? I don't want to hear anyone

1082
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: say that this division doesn't need to Well.

1083
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: It's like every time it gets to something, they drain

1084
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: it and then they we end up in these problems

1085
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, who's gonna fight next? Well, it's like,

1086
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: well you got rid of Mokayev, you got rid of

1087
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: half the guys when Demetrius left. No wonder there aren't

1088
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, the resources needed to build it in the

1089
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: way that it matters. You know?

1090
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: I love it.

1091
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: I love it.

1092
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: Let's show this picture of Dustin Jacoby with the parallel

1093
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: view of Usman knocking Masvidal out in the rematch.

1094
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: Wow, right, caught him throwing a left hook and then

1095
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: when you hit him it just spins him around like

1096
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:18,399
Speaker 1: a top.

1097
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: Wo that great?

1098
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: And then he would throw the right hand, and you

1099
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: could see in both cases they throw the right and

1100
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: then boxing then they roll underneath and anticipation that the

1101
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: punch is coming, Which is that why that left hook?

1102
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: Is there?

1103
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 2: Incredible, incredible stuff. I wish we could show you these,

1104
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 2: but we have fear of Then UFC will just show

1105
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 2: the copyright infringement. Luke, if this is the end of

1106
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: the road though for cub Swanson at forty one, and

1107
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: he seemed to illustrate that conversations between him and his

1108
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: wife were nearing that direction. He didn't go all the way,

1109
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: but he kind of made it seem like he was done.

1110
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 2: This is a twenty year career which began insane, which

1111
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 2: we first came to know him at a high level

1112
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: in the WEC, and he's fought everyone and he was

1113
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: still dangerous and event into this point in his career.

1114
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 2: If this is it, how should we remember him? Because

1115
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: I feel like a few if I would ask you

1116
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: that five or ten years ago, it would have been

1117
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: way different. It's the totality of what he authored that

1118
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: makes it so special in fun.

1119
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he's played a special role in MMA, right,

1120
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: one of these guys who you when you think of

1121
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: what like when you think of w EC excellence, you

1122
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 1: think of a god see guys like you're Ryah Faber

1123
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: and Jose Aldo and Dominic Cruz and these are Miguel Torrez.

1124
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: But Cups Swanson is part of that as well. Cup

1125
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: Swanson had phenomenal wins in WEC and after that as well.

1126
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: This is a guy who helped build that put it

1127
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: on the map. I think that's really important to begin with.

1128
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: But I often talk about this and it gets lost

1129
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: a little bit because people can only it seems these days,

1130
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: appreciate did you win a title on how many times

1131
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: did you defend it?

1132
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: How many chicks you fuck it? I'm the same thing,

1133
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: I know it really is. This is the same mentality.

1134
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: But the truth is there are a host of fighters

1135
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 1: who don't ever necessarily reach the very peak that the

1136
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: sport has to offer, but they were main consistently relevant,

1137
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: consistently excellent, high technicians, high excitement value. Matt Brown comes

1138
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: to mind with something like that, Cubs Swanson, is that

1139
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: Cub Swanson, Jim Miller, Jim Miller I clicked with a

1140
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: little less so, but definitely Jim Miller, Cowboy Saroni, Cowboy Seroni.

1141
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: Guys who are not the very best that their division

1142
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: has to offer, sure, but are first of all, very

1143
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: good fighters and more to the point, life long martial artists.

1144
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: When cubs fighting career is over, whether that is now

1145
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: or in a subsequent fight, he will still train, he

1146
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: will still be in the gym, he will still go

1147
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: maybe a little less so, a little less part sparring,

1148
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: that kind of a thing, but it's part of his identity,

1149
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: it's part of his life, and it gives these guys longevity.

1150
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: With other people's bad habits or injuries or you know, miscalculations.

1151
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: Give in. These guys just continue to surf the wave.

1152
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: I have so much respect if you can have a

1153
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: twenty year fighting mm A career, guys, I'm sorry, you're

1154
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: doing something very right along the way.

1155
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: And be still beating good guys.

1156
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: Man, Oh he has a wee fucking has a win

1157
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: over Dustin Poarier, Like, let's be serious about this. And

1158
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: also to the point like a lot of people will

1159
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: be like, oh, this was the guy that lost in it.

1160
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: What it was like nine or ten seconds to Jose

1161
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: Aldo with a double switch knee, and it's like, okay,

1162
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: that's that's one of the bad highlights. But I hope

1163
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: that folks understand you cannot judge a guy who is

1164
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: willing to fight all kinds of people across all kinds

1165
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: of situations, across all kinds of generations when they go

1166
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 1: up against a generational guy themselves. The story of Cub

1167
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: Swanson is to the point you made it's the big book.

1168
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: Yes it's not. There's great And by the way, the

1169
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: du who Joy Fight put him in the fucking Hall

1170
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: of Fame.

1171
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: And as much as I usually hate that guys become

1172
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: Hall of Famers from being in an all time great

1173
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 2: fight that gets rewarded by UFC. And I'm not against

1174
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: UFC putting fights in the Hall of Fame, just this

1175
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: idea that when he pops on the screen and go,

1176
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: look there's Hall of Famer Cub Swanson.

1177
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: Bro.

1178
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 2: Yet if you look at the positive of what this

1179
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 2: does it really I guess it kind of helps them

1180
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 2: create almost an action Hall of Fame with this, with

1181
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 2: this getting in because you've been in there for a fight.

1182
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 2: So he would deserve that for because he's been in

1183
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: a few of these that were like this, and he

1184
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: had that fighting spirit. And I wish he had thrown

1185
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: the gloves down or retired in the cage and then

1186
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: skateboarded out of the cage holding an Ocean Spray jug

1187
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: as they played Dreams by Fleetwood MACI because does he

1188
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: look exactly like that dude who was in that meme?

1189
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: Not exactly. He looks more like Vince Baschelle.

1190
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 2: True remember that dude in that meme though on the skateboard.

1191
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: He was one of the awards speakers at our MMA

1192
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: Awards when we won and world right. Yeah, he was

1193
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: one of like the celebrities of the Ocean Spray.

1194
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: Not that good of a brand. I wanna be honest

1195
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: about that.

1196
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: Why are they two woke for you or you just

1197
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: like you woke for me? That's what UFC does. They

1198
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: just get rid of the non well you know they don't.

1199
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: They have a new Uh.

1200
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got you know, fuck boys Razors. Yeah, there

1201
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: you go. I want to say this. There are again,

1202
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: there are guys who can do it better, like beeB

1203
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: Madoff did it better, and you know, pick whoever else

1204
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: you want. You know, Connor did it better, but Connor

1205
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: at forty one, I don't think could have. I don't

1206
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: think we'll be able to do what Cub has been

1207
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: able to do because it's who he is. There are

1208
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: guys who might be better making it their job, but

1209
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: this is Cub's identity. And that's why I think even

1210
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: when fighting is over, he will always have a relationship

1211
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: to training because the martial arts have defined his life.

1212
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: And he certainly will have a relationship to the fans

1213
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: because he's starting to get that old school like we

1214
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 2: just love this guy, like the thank you chairs all

1215
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: the time. It seems like we're like the fans are

1216
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: just like that's my guy. He's become one of those

1217
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: that's my guys for the.

1218
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: Fight again, like Dustin Poirier family guy. Yeah, never in trouble.

1219
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,919
Speaker 1: You never hear people who train with him shit talking him. Nothing. Ever,

1220
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. Never pop for Pedes. None of that shit.

1221
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: Never crossed the line in any kind of way other

1222
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 1: than when it was time to cross the line in

1223
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: the sand to go throw the fucking hand.

1224
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,359
Speaker 2: And he was in Mourning Combat Documentary.

1225
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,720
Speaker 1: Number three when he told you to go fuck yourself.

1226
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 2: No, when we went to the Bellator fights and he

1227
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 2: was there corner r archer Letta and he was just

1228
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: sitting there like yeah, And you're like, hey, cub, what's

1229
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: up And the camera looks at him, He's just like

1230
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 2: not even looking at you.

1231
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: Right, It is great.

1232
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 2: I think that was an editing trip trick, though, two

1233
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: more quickly to highlight or one quick Michael Johnson's notes

1234
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: he's probably not going in the direction he claims he

1235
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: is on this two fight win streak where he says

1236
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 2: at age thirty eight, he's ready to get back into contention.

1237
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 2: With that said, it looks like he's rejuvenated to a

1238
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: certain degree.

1239
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: Un a certain he can beat anybody.

1240
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 2: He's twenty three and nineteen, Luke Trure a.

1241
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: False Linwld Luke Michael Johnson on any given day can

1242
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 1: beat anyone, and on any given day can lose to anyone.

1243
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 4: I'm still salty about the time he knocked out Dustin

1244
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: Poorier had a lot of money on that thing.

1245
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Poorier threw a lead upper cut and with one set,

1246
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: with no setup, and he got got crushed for And he.

1247
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 2: Still can do that to any elite at any point,

1248
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 2: which is your point on that He's twenty three and nineteen.

1249
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: He survived that like four or five fight losing.

1250
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: Street fighters I've ever seen with a basically a five

1251
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:55,280
Speaker 1: hundred record.

1252
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 2: It's insane. But I'm happy for him, and I hope

1253
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: he gets a fun fight from from the momentum that

1254
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: he's been building.

1255
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: I was that was I think. I'll say this, I

1256
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: think more than any other ko on that card, that

1257
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: one got the biggest pop.

1258
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1259
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the crowd went fucking bananas for that one.

1260
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: Why do we never talk about Sean Woodson that featherweight

1261
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 2: though when he is fifteen one on one, he's unbeaten

1262
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: in his last seven I know he hasn't. The answer

1263
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: is probably because he hasn't beat those step up names

1264
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 2: yet and hasn't had the chance to fight them. But Luke,

1265
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 2: his boxing was brilliant with that not I wish I

1266
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: could play that film right now so we can talk

1267
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: about it, the combinations, the level changing that everything. I mean,

1268
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: it was just, dude, when that guy is so he

1269
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: has such a unique body style, and we know the

1270
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: story of him being a former heavyweight. The he's already

1271
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 2: sort of like freakish in a sense. But dude, he

1272
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: seems to have the right attitude, the work ethic. We

1273
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 2: just need to see him against someone good now.

1274
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: By the way, three wins in twenty twenty four, Yeah,

1275
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: he wins.

1276
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: He just and he said it afterwards. He had a

1277
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 2: mic drop moment. He was just sort of like said,

1278
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 2: what was that chance? He yelled, He was like, rank me,

1279
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: pay me, something like that, give me that fifty g's.

1280
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 2: It's time to see what he can do. Right.

1281
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: He definitely looks like somebody cobbled together three different body

1282
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: types and put them on the same guy.

1283
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 2: My dad, you should take my g I Joe's and

1284
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 2: he would unhook them from the big rubber band on

1285
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 2: the inside and then they can interchange their body parts.

1286
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: That's cool. That's cool.

1287
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: That was cool. A little weird, but I don't think

1288
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: it's that weird.

1289
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: He is good, but I think before me like I'm

1290
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 1: ready to be like, oh, the boxing was amazing. He

1291
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: definitely looked great. Please don't misunderstand me. The ko was

1292
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: nice too, But he needs a step up in competition.

1293
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: He did, he did beat Charles Jordan would be a split.

1294
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Speaker 2: And this guy Padio was was not easy.

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00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: Not bad. Yeah, but I think there's another level he

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00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: needs to be tested. He's thirty two now at the time,

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Speaker 1: Right now's the.

1298
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Speaker 2: Time representing Saint Louis. You like that that lower mid

1299
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 2: drift tat with like the skyline behind it and like

1300
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 2: the almost like a tattoo like an arch like on

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Speaker 2: Tupac and yours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, kind of like I mean, you know, a

1303
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: little geography base. You got the sokal one on Cubs Swanson.

1304
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: Yes, if cub Swanson did want to come back, why

1305
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 2: would we not put him in there with Nate Land

1306
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 2: where oh it's.

1307
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: A good one. Why not do the rematch with Dujo Choi.

1308
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 2: Because they would kill each other. That's probably why. But

1309
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: unless if you pay him enough to put it on

1310
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 2: a paper, pay him enough.

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Speaker 1: Fuck it all?

1312
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: Right, there we go. Hey, let's move on here. We

1313
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 2: got topic number three, and that's the post fight press

1314
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: conference from UFC Tampa on Saturday, when Dana White addressed

1315
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: the media and Luke, Dana White one hundred percent guaranteed

1316
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 2: that UFC fans can expect John Jones versus Tom aspadaal

1317
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 2: and a Muscy heavyweight title unification in twenty twenty five.

1318
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 2: But Luke, even though we have heard nothing but mixed

1319
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 2: message from messages from Jones on this exact topic, his

1320
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 2: track record meaning bones pretty damn good outside of the

1321
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: UFC one fifty one debacle. It kind of speaks for itself.

1322
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,800
Speaker 2: So who do you trust more on this topic, Dana

1323
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 2: White or John Jones to the idea of whether we

1324
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 2: do see the aspinall fight next year.

1325
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: I collected a little research, if I may, I like

1326
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: to share this with the audience about Dana White's guarantees.

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00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 2: Now, let me make mye Oh no, you're gonna do

1328
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: let me let me make my Let me make my

1329
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: point here, don't pop my balloon.

1330
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: Let me make my point. I am not suggesting that

1331
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: Dana White doesn't know better than us. He probably almost

1332
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: certainly does. I'm sure he does. I'm not suggesting to

1333
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 1: you that the fight won't happen. That's not my point.

1334
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: I want to be very clear. I would love nothing

1335
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: more than the fight to happen, and Dana's is right

1336
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: by the way. That fight would be absolutely huge. I

1337
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: don't think it crosses two million buys. I think that's

1338
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: a little aggressive, but I do think it does huge numbers.

1339
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: It's easily one of the top three biggest fights that

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: the UFC can make next year. Agreed, Yes, Okay, So

1341
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: I hope he makes it. I hope that it gets made.

1342
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if it will be made, but I

1343
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: don't think the guarantee language means a lot to me.

1344
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:41,840
Speaker 1: May I go through a list I have cobbled together

1345
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: for you?

1346
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, it just involves ZUFA boxing.

1347
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: And then some and then some.

1348
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 2: We have purchased an island.

1349
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Speaker 1: Okay. In February of two thousand and eight, Dana White

1350
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 1: said quote, I'm going to be as bold as I say,

1351
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: excuse me, I'm going to be as bold as to say,

1352
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that we're gonna either be in the

1353
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: Boston Garden or Madison Square. Garden by the end of

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00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: the year. They did not end up going.

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00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: There Petty and deep Hair.

1356
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: In July of twenty thirteen, he said that George Saint

1357
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 1: Pierre would end up fighting Roy MacDonald quote, I think

1358
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: these guys are handling like professionals, doing their thing, and

1359
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 1: when the day comes, they're going to be there. I

1360
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: guarantee you they'll fight. They did not fight. In January

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00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: of twenty twelve, he said that New York would sanction

1362
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 1: the sport quote, it's going to happen. I guarantee it's

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00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,439
Speaker 1: going to happen this year. It did not happen until

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00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. In September of twenty twenty one, he said

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00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: that Jake Paul would never call out Anderson Silva. Quote,

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Speaker 1: I fucking guarantee you this. You ain't gonna see Jake

1367
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Paul calling out Anderson Silva. That is not going to happen,

1368
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: I promise you. He in fact did go on to

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Speaker 1: fight him and then beat him. In October of twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: he said that John Jones would fight by the way

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Speaker 1: Anderson Silva quote, I guarantee you that fight will absolutely happen.

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Speaker 1: It did not end up happening. In October of twenty nineteen,

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00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: he said he was going to work with Zuva Boxing

1374
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: and guess who Al Hayman quote, I can guarantee you

1375
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: that that I'll be working with Al Hayman. He did

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00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: not do that. Need I say more hashtag Tachi Palace.

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Speaker 1: There are lots of guarantees that he makes over the.

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Speaker 2: Year, the mandon newness, will never pay, will never may

1379
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Speaker 2: event another pay per view after not being able to.

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Speaker 1: Make I could do this all day long. I want

1381
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: to be clear. He could be right. I hope he's

1382
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: but him saying it's a guarantee does not mean anything.

1383
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 2: I could shit in a box and right guarantee on

1384
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 2: the outside, I will say. Look, the counter argument to

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00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 2: that is, uh, he's got a great track record because

1386
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: of the control that him and the matchmakers have over

1387
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 2: the fighters of delivering almost all of the things we've

1388
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: ever wanted. Although you bring up good points, but let's

1389
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: hear him talk and give the reasoning and see if

1390
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 2: maybe this changes your mind.

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Speaker 8: Jones versus aspinall, is that sort of the big priority

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 8: and you think that's the biggest fight the promotion can

1393
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 8: put on?

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Speaker 10: And uh, I think it's probably the biggest fight and

1395
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 10: heavyweight history and uh, it's a massive fight in the

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00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 10: uh in the history of the company too.

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Speaker 1: It's a big fight.

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01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, we know Tom aspinall's down. Jones is kind of

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01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 8: like on the fence, or at least he said publicly weird.

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01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 10: What's weird about that? Let me tell you it's weird

1401
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 10: about that. So usually those guys say that ship behind

1402
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 10: the scenes and not publicly. John says that shit publicly

1403
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 10: but not behind the scenes. John is a very unique

1404
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 10: individual to deal with. From day one, I've been confident

1405
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 10: that that John Jones would do that fight, right, I

1406
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 10: mean even before the fight. So if he won, there's

1407
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 10: no way John doesn't do this fight. John Jones isn't

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01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 10: afraid to fight anybody, and that's a fact. And the

1409
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 10: only time that anything remotely weird has ever happened with

1410
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 10: John Jones was the time that his fucking camp did

1411
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 10: the weird chail Son and thing, we can't fight chail

1412
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 10: Son on short notice. Other than that, and that wasn't him,

1413
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 10: It was his team, and he listened to his team

1414
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 10: for whatever reason. But that's like the goofiest fucking move

1415
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 10: in the history of the UFCA. But other than that.

1416
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 10: John Jones behind the scenes is not a guy that

1417
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 10: turns down fights.

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01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 8: Would you say, would you guarantee one percent we see

1419
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 8: that fight?

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01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Danny, nice question.

1421
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll say one hundred percent.

1422
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, he said that many times. Okay, many times

1423
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: it's been true. Hold on, let's let's be fair. Many

1424
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: times it's been true. Many times it has not been okay.

1425
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: But the point he makes about John's track record, I

1426
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: do think needs to be taken to consideration. But is

1427
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 2: he missing the three years that John set out while

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01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: in Ghana was in the title picture and then coming

1429
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: back the second in Ghana leaves like is Dana right

1430
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 2: where he says outside of that UFC one to fifty

1431
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: one moment, John has always been about fighting the best

1432
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 2: Or is this Dana trying to take the attention off

1433
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 2: of what this is really about, which is John wanted

1434
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 2: to be paid like he's the greatest of all time,

1435
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: which we have on record said he deserves.

1436
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we just got off the last media cycle

1437
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: where Dana goes, hey, Morob stormed into the offices demanding

1438
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: to fight Umar and then they asked Morob about her.

1439
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, maybe he kind of indicated that

1440
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: they were leaning on him to take the fight. This

1441
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: is what I mean again, I hope he's right. He

1442
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: might be right. It would be awesome if he's right.

1443
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: Let's fingers crossed, knock on wood that he's right. I'm

1444
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: simply telling you there, he's a promoter, all right. I was,

1445
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: he's a promoter.

1446
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 2: I was at fifty five percent coming in in belief

1447
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: that this fight will happen next year. Based on these comments,

1448
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 2: I'll bring up to fifty eight percent. I'm currently at

1449
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent.

1450
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: That we what's the what's the Long Island Luke confidence meter?

1451
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 4: I was going to go sixty percent?

1452
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's go.

1453
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 4: Let's comment after this comment.

1454
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, even though I have a demonstrated record of him

1455
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: making guarantees that don't come true.

1456
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: Well, I do want to nitpick at One of your

1457
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: guarantees was that Jake Paul will never call out Anderson.

1458
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: So like he's talking about a fighter calling out a fighter.

1459
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: It's not like a UFC fight made guarantee like this

1460
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 4: is sure.

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01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: That's a little different. But I'm telling you the confidence

1462
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: with what you're asserting it, all right, Well, let's he's

1463
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: over is overstated.

1464
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 2: So Tom Asmarhol was on Pierce Morgan and this topic

1465
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: came up and Meters peers, Pierce more, peers, peers.

1466
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: It's like peers, like Chelsea Piers.

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01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the things, I really don't care, you know what

1468
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean, like as a dog to me. But he hey,

1469
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: Tom is on there, and he kind of corroborated Dana's story.

1470
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 11: And actually right after that press conference, I had a

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01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 11: meeting with with Dana. So in all honesty, I was

1472
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 11: expecting to come and we maybe negotiate a little bit.

1473
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 11: And he literally walked into the room and said it's happening.

1474
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 11: And I said, well, he's gonna want loads of money

1475
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 11: and he said, I know, but it's happening. And he

1476
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 11: said it's going to be the biggest fight in USC history.

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01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: So does that mean John Jones has agreed? I don't

1478
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 1: know what John.

1479
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 11: In all honesty, John Jones is like nobody knows what

1480
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 11: he's doing, even the USA.

1481
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 1: So he says he wants fucking money. I imagine Dania

1482
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: will pay.

1483
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 11: Him fuck you many, I would imagine. So, I mean,

1484
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 11: I can't speak for Dana, but would you get.

1485
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: Fuck you money? No, how much as you get for

1486
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: that fight?

1487
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 11: I don't really care about money at this point.

1488
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I've got I've got a family.

1489
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 11: I want to I want to make as much money

1490
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 11: as I can.

1491
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: But to me, what's more important is unifying belts. Guys, guys,

1492
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: how much theater around this shit do you need to

1493
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: see before some skepticism creeps in? Are you getting fucking mind? Fuck?

1494
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 6: No?

1495
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: Do you know if it's signed? I don't know, Like, oh,

1496
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: he just declared it's true. What the fuck does that mean?

1497
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: Okay again, I want to be clear. I'm not telling

1498
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: you it's not going to happen yet. What I'm telling

1499
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 1: you is we gotta wait.

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01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: Right, Dana is also still campaigning and getting in everyone's head,

1501
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: and he's playing the game with them. But given Jones's

1502
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: track record, in the fact that we believe it does

1503
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 2: come down to whether or not they will pay him

1504
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 2: a certain amount that decides if this fight's gonna happen.

1505
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: I have to say, as a UFC fan, as a

1506
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: journalist who gets mad when I feel like they're constantly

1507
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 2: watering down the product and not doing enough big things

1508
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 2: that build stars and builds momentum and leads to huge fights.

1509
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 2: This is exactly what I want the hell, I want

1510
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: the promotion to act confident that's going to happen, saying

1511
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: it matter of fact. And now they just have to

1512
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 2: be willing to turn that dollar sign up. And I

1513
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: think they're treating this like this is the fight that

1514
01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 2: would demand them to do something like that break classic

1515
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 2: case necessary. I know there's a fear in creating some

1516
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 2: type of you know, this is what people should expect

1517
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 2: moving forward, but by trying to call this potentially the

1518
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: biggest fight of all time, it gives them a reason

1519
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: to jack up that price. Luke, does it only come

1520
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: down at this point to whether UFC meets John's demands

1521
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: or do you think there's a part of John that

1522
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: actually is still questioning if if it's worth taking it

1523
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 2: in light of what his resume would be like if

1524
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 2: he lost.

1525
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the hang up such that

1526
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 1: it exists, is John right, because listen to Tom's like,

1527
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: are you getting fuck you money?

1528
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 3: No?

1529
01:05:30,040 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: But he still wants it, Okay, So he's all in.

1530
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 2: Tom wants to me great.

1531
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tom wants to be great. And obviously Tom's

1532
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: in a very different position than John. He needs this

1533
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 1: fight in a way that I understand John doesn't.

1534
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: He's not in the one percent of people who make

1535
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 2: a shit ton of money in the UFC yet, and

1536
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 2: he wants to be in.

1537
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: This is exactly it. So it's a different perspective. And

1538
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: we know the UFC wants it, we know the fans

1539
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: wont it. It really comes down to John. But I

1540
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 1: want to be clear, like, you know, I don't think

1541
01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: John's demand for fucking money is unreasonable. He was asking

1542
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: for Deontay Wildner Munner money back in twenty twenty one

1543
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: and didn't get it. He is entitled to it in

1544
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: that respect. I just mean a lot of times promoters

1545
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: will say things like, oh yeah, this guy will take

1546
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: the fight. You know, he really wants it. That's them

1547
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: putting public pressure on the fighter to take it. That's

1548
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 1: them being like, oh yeah, this guy's ready, he wants it.

1549
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: It's not buttering them up. It's saying I'm telling the

1550
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: fans that you want it, and so if the fight

1551
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 1: falls apart, it's not me who didn't want it. We

1552
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: told you this guy was like, oh he was ready

1553
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: for it. Oh yeah, he showed he changed his mind,

1554
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: not we changed ours. Even though that man necessarily be

1555
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: a fair resitation again. I hope it gets made, but

1556
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,959
Speaker 1: these assurances are a little hollow to me, just given

1557
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: the track record.

1558
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: I have to believe that the real bosses here, the

1559
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 2: people that control the money, the TKO group. I gotta

1560
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: believe that they want this badly and should want this.

1561
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: I think what they really want is to entrench their

1562
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: monopoly and not have to spend more than they ever

1563
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 1: have to to get that's also true. Yes, that's what

1564
01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 1: we're up against here.

1565
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana has one more idea that a lot of

1566
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 2: people are getting excited about.

1567
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 10: Let's hear him anticipate Albata big fights. I've got I

1568
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 10: got something in the works right now, al javfucker's crazy.

1569
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,959
Speaker 10: All you guys will be running around. I got something

1570
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 10: in the works that you will never fucking see coming

1571
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:16,160
Speaker 10: for twenty twenty five. That literally started to come together

1572
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 10: last night. And yeah, we got some fun stuff coming up.

1573
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: So that either means a former UFC fighter that you

1574
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 2: never thought would be back is considering making a comeback,

1575
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 2: or or a fighter is looking to make a dramatic

1576
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,120
Speaker 2: move up and wait and take a chance and they

1577
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: like this idea. What is it? And who do you think?

1578
01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 2: Long Elan Luke and I were going crazy earlier trying

1579
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: to it's not Rousey, then is a GSP is it?

1580
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 1: This is it?

1581
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: H'll be like, what is it?

1582
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1583
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 2: Better not be like Connor Nate three which would be cool,

1584
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: but like that's not the thing. That can't be the thing.

1585
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: Oh, it can definitely be the thing. I mean, dude,

1586
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: they've made big promises about UFC three hundred and the

1587
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,400
Speaker 1: card was amazing, but your main event was Jamal Hill

1588
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: and Alex Poeton.

1589
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm saying we just got a call last night.

1590
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: If that was Nate Diez as people saying we're ready

1591
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 2: to do the Connor trilogy, could be they just drop

1592
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 2: it that You could argue that the best way to

1593
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: die dial down the interest in in asking Connor about

1594
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: his rape trial upon his return, which will be inevitable

1595
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,640
Speaker 2: and should be inevitable.

1596
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 1: And they're not going to ask him shit.

1597
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 2: If they do the Nate trilogy, that topic will be

1598
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 2: the number two topic behind the actual fight in trilogy.

1599
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: They're not going to ask Connor shit. Come on, be serious?

1600
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 1: How naive are you being? Right now?

1601
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: So you say that the group of people that show

1602
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: up to ever UFC card. You're telling me that when

1603
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 2: they finally get that media day scrum with with with Connor,

1604
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:45,640
Speaker 2: that fight week, that that it will not be referenced, or.

1605
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: There might be a little bit at first, it will

1606
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 1: be quickly school. This is going to sound like I'm

1607
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 1: doing some kind of an attack on all those guys.

1608
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 1: I like a lot of those guys. You heard Danny

1609
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 1: Si Dane, and then Danny will speak his mind too,

1610
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 1: like it's not I'm not saying him. You know, there

1611
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: are people whose job it is to be the front

1612
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: facing version of a media organization that goes to these

1613
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: events and kind of tangles with Dana Aaron Brotter, but

1614
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 1: he works for the Canadian UFC, partner of the He's

1615
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 1: got some.

1616
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: But they all have the tipical Well, I mean that's.

1617
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: Literally their partner. There's gonna be some restrictions. But the

1618
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: point I want to make is we have to stop

1619
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: indulging this fiction that MMA journalism still exists. Right. There

1620
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 1: are people, let me.

1621
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 2: Finish, it's dead, but it's not. It's there.

1622
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: It's fucking dead.

1623
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 2: It's it's alive, it's just barely alive.

1624
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,879
Speaker 1: There are guys who do it individually, you're John Nashes

1625
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 1: and so forth. And there are people who do individual

1626
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: journalistic acts. You get actually a fair amount of that

1627
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: is great for journalists, right, they do exactly they do.

1628
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: They do individual acts. But the people who are on

1629
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: the front lines to deal with the UFC, they no

1630
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 1: longer have their job. And when I say this, I'm

1631
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: saying they're editors. Their producers do not want them to

1632
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: be in a position where that boat is rocked such

1633
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: that they lose access that the entire and this was

1634
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 1: not always the case. There are people who kind of

1635
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: towed the line, who would be there and then not

1636
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: be there and then be Now it is segregated, there

1637
01:10:11,439 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 1: are people who are just there. That job on the

1638
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: front line is to be essentially stenographers. That's the job now,

1639
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: and we pretend that it hasn't fully morphed into that

1640
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:28,160
Speaker 1: when it quite obviously has. There are people who do commentary,

1641
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,680
Speaker 1: even at the same media outlets, but those are not

1642
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: the front line people.

1643
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: I hear you. But it's going to be asked, and

1644
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: it should be asked.

1645
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: I think one person asks one question, Connor says, I

1646
01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it, and then they just

1647
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: move on. That's it.

1648
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 2: Sing one final thing on Dana. He said about Dustin. Oh, sorry,

1649
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 2: before I get in Dustin for you. Uh, there's no

1650
01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 2: chances in Ghano, right, who has one fight left on

1651
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 2: this PFL deal.

1652
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: Dude, they won't even I saw John Nashville, I Love.

1653
01:10:57,840 --> 01:10:59,479
Speaker 1: He was like, well, it could be possible because he

1654
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: won't be with PFL anymore. He's got one more fight

1655
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 1: and then there would be no co promotion problems. True,

1656
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: Dana holds grudges like an elephant has memory for fucking life.

1657
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,799
Speaker 2: All right, So long island Luke throw out earlier Terrence

1658
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 2: Crawford in a hybrid fight or something. I mean something,

1659
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: is it? Something crazy like that which would be unbelievable.

1660
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 4: I got that, I got reco Verehooven versus Poeton.

1661
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: I don't hate this.

1662
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: That'd be sick. I'd be okay with that. I know

1663
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: for a fact that the Glory folks wanted to talk

1664
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 1: to PFL about see if there's a way to get

1665
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: Rico and and Francis going, all right, put it in you.

1666
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna hate it.

1667
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 6: Is it?

1668
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: Butterbean ador? Dude, They're not.

1669
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: Gonna I'm just I'm just throwing another Okay, I'm just

1670
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: throwing another.

1671
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: They're not gonna do fatal again, all right.

1672
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 4: Dan, I got one more. Yeah, I just thought of it.

1673
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: And I know it was kind of shut down like

1674
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,360
Speaker 4: in the last week. But maybe DJ, there's an update

1675
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: there and we got DJ Pantosia.

1676
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: Maybe they paid no, but maybe they came back and said,

1677
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 1: we'll give you some sick cash.

1678
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 4: I did say, like a call just happened. So you

1679
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 4: got to throw away anything from the past.

1680
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: That's a good theory.

1681
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: And it did in line with DJ showing up in

1682
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: Habiban Islam's camp as an instructor.

1683
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 1: Now, wasn't he helping Umar?

1684
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:20,560
Speaker 2: I don't know the context of that. You'll see it

1685
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: and have you seen this ship and you can tell

1686
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:26,120
Speaker 2: me more. But Dana said, Dustin Poitier's retirement plan is

1687
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: in like negotiation and he seems to have a fight identified.

1688
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 2: Who do you think it is? There's been a lot

1689
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,839
Speaker 2: of Chandler trash talk online.

1690
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: Chandler is a good one. Chandler or Hooker somebody, somebody.

1691
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 1: He's already fought, all.

1692
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: Right, the hooker one as great as great. That might

1693
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,720
Speaker 2: be the best fight in Apex history, right hook Hooker there,

1694
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: I would so much rather see him and Chandler in

1695
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 2: a trilogy knowing the hate between them. You down with that?

1696
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 2: You're down with that? Is that a trilogy?

1697
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah? Which one?

1698
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 2: Wait, Chandler and Poorie fought once once, it'd be a rematch, dude.

1699
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 2: That fight was gnarly. That fight was, uh, it was

1700
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 2: particularly I think it stood out on its own in

1701
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: that group of action fights between all those guys as

1702
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 2: being extra kind of hairy, not as good as gay

1703
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 2: Chee versus Potier one, which I think is still my

1704
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: favorite in that that's a brutal ass fight. That really is. Yeah,

1705
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 2: so these are all great fight. This would really pick

1706
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: It's split in here?

1707
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 8: Is are you?

1708
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,360
Speaker 4: Dana said on this that Dustin wants to do something

1709
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 4: he's always wanted to do. Do you think it's just

1710
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,280
Speaker 4: like headlining in Louisiana or something that.

1711
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: Maybe one seventy one seventy against a Hope not Colby.

1712
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't.

1713
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to those Yeah, interesting stuff. Okay, That's

1714
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: all I got for you on that. Let's keep the

1715
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 2: chains and the tires moving here. Let's go to topic

1716
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: number four and Luke, February first is going to see

1717
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 2: a UFC Fight Night card in Riod not a pay

1718
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 2: per view, but this might feel like one. After the

1719
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 2: main and Colemane were now on Saturday morning on social media,

1720
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 2: Dana White coming out and saying Israel out of Sonya

1721
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: will face Naserdene Imovov and a middleweight five around main event,

1722
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: and in the co main event February first, Shara Bullet

1723
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 2: Maga Metov will meet a Michael Venam Page at middleweight,

1724
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: moving up in weeight. Early odds from DraftKings are on

1725
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 2: the main event only have Auta Sonya minus one eighty

1726
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 2: five in Imovov plus one point fifty four. So Luke

1727
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 2: I got a couple of things to say. But hearing

1728
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: this that this Fight Night card is this loaded, is

1729
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: it fair to say that in general UFC is no

1730
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 2: longer really looking. I know those people that say that

1731
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 2: they're no longer looking to serve the fan, that they're

1732
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 2: just serving government contracts, But are they no longer looking

1733
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: to serve the American fan? Along with Dana's beef with MGM,

1734
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: which we've seen weaker cards in Vegas, is any of

1735
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,720
Speaker 2: that real by this that it's the people with the

1736
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 2: bigger money in these bigger nations that are put down

1737
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 2: the bigger site fees that are that's going to decide

1738
01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 2: whether these are the supercards or not.

1739
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,440
Speaker 1: Well, this is not a supercard. This is a supercard

1740
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: by fight night standards what you mean.

1741
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: But the whole point is that the quality at live

1742
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 2: fights is exponentially going up internationally while the domestic ones

1743
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 2: are coming. New York is not what it used to be.

1744
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 2: International fight Week is not what it used to.

1745
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: Be, and we should just be honest, like this is

1746
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: much more pronounced in boxing than it is an MMA,

1747
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:21,919
Speaker 1: like significantly. So the Saudis have done something kind of interesting.

1748
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:26,479
Speaker 1: By that, I mean the following. They are clearly pumping

1749
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: tons of money into the fight game. We are having

1750
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,799
Speaker 1: Usik Fury two, Yusuk Fury one was in Saudi Arabia.

1751
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: But the list of all the fights that they have

1752
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: paid for.

1753
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Is fourteen months of rio odd season. It's changed the game.

1754
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 1: It's changed the game even before that. I mean, I

1755
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: remember like Clash of the Dunes when it was the

1756
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: Joshua and Andy Ruiz rematch and everything. There's a lot

1757
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 1: of that happening. So you can't say that there aren't

1758
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: big fights happening in boxing there are. You can't say

1759
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,839
Speaker 1: that guys aren't getting paid. They are. But what's happening

1760
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,599
Speaker 1: is they're draining the North American market. All the fights

1761
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: that would have on in New York or Las Vegas

1762
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,480
Speaker 1: or LA not all of them, but many of them

1763
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: are all now being pushed back over to Saudi Arabia.

1764
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: And you might say, well, didn't they just have an

1765
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: August the real season of it in LA. Yes, but

1766
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,440
Speaker 1: it was a financial disaster, to the point where apparently

1767
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: Turkey from his boss has got marching orders these fights

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01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 1: are to be just back in Saudi Arabia. We're not

1769
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 1: going to do this in LA. This is having an

1770
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: effect on in particular, Dude boxing used to be on

1771
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: Showtime in HBO, gone, used to be on Fox Sports,

1772
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: gone still on ESPN, but that remains very uncertain. Not

1773
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: on CBS, not on NBC, used to be in NBC gone.

1774
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 1: It has been removed from the American market to this point,

1775
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 1: and I actually worry about the future of boxing as

1776
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: a consequence. Now, UFC is different because they are not

1777
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: giving their premier product over, but they are to your point,

1778
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: between this and Abu Dhabi or UAE, anyway, you're getting

1779
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 1: a ton of quality that used to be in the

1780
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: United States. That's all gonna shipped over, and I just

1781
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means for the long term market.

1782
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 2: This is the other side of the Saudi equation. Normally

1783
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 2: we look at the other side of the Saudi equation

1784
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 2: as you give us these great fights and we just

1785
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 2: put up with or tolerate whatever amounts of sportswashing or

1786
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:14,240
Speaker 2: whatever we think that side of it is, and the

1787
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,360
Speaker 2: whole political entanglements that come with that. Well, we get

1788
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 2: these great fights, and we still will get these great fights,

1789
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: and there's been reason to have a ton of optimism

1790
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 2: about where boxing is going to be heading into twenty five.

1791
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: But Luke, you and by proxy shout out to John S.

1792
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 2: Nash on his Hey Not the Face podcast with s

1793
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 2: Kert m Hoff where they talked about this topic at

1794
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: a really high level, and I appreciated hearing that. You

1795
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: do have to start to wonder what this means for

1796
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 2: boxing in the States or North America or fights in general. Because, Luke,

1797
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 2: whether it's the MGM feud with Dana fueling this or not,

1798
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas cards are going down in quality.

1799
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:51,879
Speaker 1: Look at the results of the last one.

1800
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 2: And when you're not treating MSG like a major anymore.

1801
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 2: And International Fight Week, which originally had Connor on top,

1802
01:17:58,120 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 2: which was a big deal for sure, but was a

1803
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: very water down card below that, and has become that

1804
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,800
Speaker 2: it just feels like the majors are now. Whenever Abu

1805
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: Dhabi or Saudi Arabia is involved, it feels like a major.

1806
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: This is a fight Night card and it kind of

1807
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 2: feels like a major, right It's just because there's two

1808
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 2: kind of sexy fights the top of it. And I

1809
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: don't want to, you know, spend all this time being

1810
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: fearful and not talking about the quality of the fights

1811
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 2: and who's in these fights and all that, but we

1812
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 2: do have to follow these trends and signs and movements,

1813
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: and people like Zach Arnold and John Snash that are

1814
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: out here kind of covering it and also giving what

1815
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: the future could look like. It's not great news. There's

1816
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: a price to pay for the Saudi arrangement and having

1817
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 2: this much access to great fights, and that's that's one

1818
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 2: of it. And maybe we didn't expect that or talk

1819
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,200
Speaker 2: about that enough, but that's certainly one of it. Because

1820
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 2: even when the fights are taking place on foreign soil.

1821
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: It's not just the fights are airing at a different

1822
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 2: time of the day. There's not as much budget and

1823
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 2: energy and effort put into promoting it in the States.

1824
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 2: It's just not you know what I mean, you don't

1825
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,680
Speaker 2: see and you missed that buzz in the cities obviously

1826
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 2: of one a big American fight.

1827
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: Also on the boxing side, this is something that they

1828
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 1: brought up John Nash and who's the boxing Square off

1829
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 1: boxing attorney A great a great conversation. One thing they

1830
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: point out. And I've had some conversations with some folks

1831
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,840
Speaker 1: after that podcast. I heard I hit up some people

1832
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: who might know better. Dude, like, how many US subscribers

1833
01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 1: do we think de Zone has? Do they have a million?

1834
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 1: I seriously doubt it.

1835
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,439
Speaker 2: It's hard to know. I mean, I know their focus

1836
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,720
Speaker 2: is so much more on the other internet companies where

1837
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: they have countries where they have NFL and full soccer.

1838
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, boxing has sold their ass. These prostitutes have sold

1839
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: their ass to somebody who has just removed it from

1840
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: the place where it you know, and I'll say it's

1841
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: Mexico and everything else, but the North America, let's say.

1842
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 1: And and by the way, UK too, UK has lost

1843
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: out on a huge amount of fights that are now

1844
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: being moved over there. It's good that big fights are

1845
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: being made, but if none of them are going to

1846
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 1: be made in the places where these guys are from

1847
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: and where their fan bases have been cultivated, you're going

1848
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,639
Speaker 1: to lose those fans over the course of time. Something

1849
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 1: to think about.

1850
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're you're missing that buzz that that that

1851
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 2: thing that happens where you can infect others with Hell,

1852
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: you're talking about this fight. You hear about this fight.

1853
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: It does kind of make it for us. We were

1854
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: in the fighting, it's all we care about and breathe.

1855
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna inhale it anyway. But you can feel the

1856
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,560
Speaker 2: difference for sure. But about the actual fight. Luke Attasanya

1857
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 2: will be in his first non title fight in his

1858
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: last what twelve dating back to two thousand and eighteen

1859
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: or nineteen when he fought Ermson Silva. I've got it

1860
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 2: written right here first. Since the twenty nineteen win over

1861
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: Anderson Silva, saying, and he's lost three of his last four,

1862
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: including back to backs, but retains being a slight favorite

1863
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: here from DraftKings at minus one eighty five against a

1864
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 2: streaking Imovov. What do you make of this fight?

1865
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: I love this fight. I think it is a fantastic

1866
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:46,879
Speaker 1: match our fantastic matchmaking. Imovov, I think has been limited

1867
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 1: but improving. Has good wrestling.

1868
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 2: A poor man's gay guard.

1869
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: No, he's got better wrestling than that, but maybe not

1870
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 1: the same Musasi had better jiu jitsu. That's a little

1871
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: bit of a kind of a mix there. Anyway, The

1872
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,600
Speaker 1: point I want to make was he is now a

1873
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: relevant force at middleweight, and obviously we're not getting peak Izzy.

1874
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: That is over, so you're kind of wondering, well, what

1875
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: is left? How good could it be? This is a

1876
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 1: great opportunity for Imovov. If you can get a win here,

1877
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: you can really surge to the top of that division.

1878
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: By contrast, if you're Izzy, you can show that even

1879
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: in a diminished state relative to what was. Again, he's

1880
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 1: the second best middleweight of all time, no questions asked.

1881
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: He can still beat these really really tough top contenders

1882
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: along the way. That would be I mean, just again,

1883
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: we talked about longevity, right, not just what your peak was,

1884
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 1: but your longevity, Yes, and to have some of that

1885
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:42,799
Speaker 1: would be pretty special.

1886
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 2: Now, I agree with everything you said, right, there. I

1887
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:45,840
Speaker 2: want to see Izzy.

1888
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: I saw a smirk develop when I started talking.

1889
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you say things that trigger you know, possible

1890
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: Reddit reactions are just possible to spin off the jokes,

1891
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: and I always have to weigh in that moment of like,

1892
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: is it worth derailing the flow of the conversation for

1893
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: this joke that may only have a thirty three percent

1894
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 2: chance of hitting?

1895
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: You know?

1896
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,200
Speaker 2: So anyway, I love to see as you have to

1897
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: go back and earn his way back into a huge,

1898
01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 2: you know fight in the title picture and not thirty

1899
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: five are going to be looking closely, you know, from

1900
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: here on out for sure of what he has left

1901
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,120
Speaker 2: and how much longer he wants to keep doing this.

1902
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 2: But you know, dude, before succumbing to DDP there he

1903
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: was lighting him up at some points in that fight,

1904
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,799
Speaker 2: he looked kind of ready again at.

1905
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:24,760
Speaker 1: That level, right it was?

1906
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:26,839
Speaker 2: That wasn't a disastrous loss.

1907
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: No, the ending was weird because when it went bad,

1908
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: it went bad like super coisly.

1909
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 2: Yes it did.

1910
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 1: But I do agree like he's not without still many

1911
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:34,839
Speaker 1: of his skills.

1912
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 2: But you're right, this is great matchmaking because this is

1913
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: the perfect fight to see where he's at in this

1914
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,560
Speaker 2: and then on that Cole main event, is this I

1915
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,600
Speaker 2: can't figure it out. Is this a step up or

1916
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: step back? For it's the best quality of name that

1917
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,880
Speaker 2: Chara Bullets fought, and it's not like I don't think

1918
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: Michael Page is gonna look completely out of form at middleweight.

1919
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 2: But is this the right step forward for somebody in

1920
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: charl Bullet, who's through four UFC fights, who's getting a

1921
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 2: lot of attention quickly and seems to be because they

1922
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 2: only put him in Abu Dhabi or Saudi Arabia, seems

1923
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 2: to be building a following too. Is this the right

1924
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: fight against the recognized name to get him to that

1925
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 2: next level.

1926
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 1: Part of the issue for Chary Bullet is Dana White

1927
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,519
Speaker 1: even admitted it, which I like. Is it commission shopping

1928
01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: to admit that we can't take him stateside because of

1929
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: his eye?

1930
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting too.

1931
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't really know what the story is with that.

1932
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: That's a little weird, Like most promoters don't openly admit

1933
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 1: to commission shopping.

1934
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 2: It seems like as MMA, we found out after the

1935
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: fact that Bisping fought with one eye for a lot

1936
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: of it, and we were just like, oh my god,

1937
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 2: that really happened in the modern era. Yeah, and now

1938
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 2: I just feel like everybody's in on that it's happening

1939
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: to this guy too, and there seems to not be concerned.

1940
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 1: I think that's right. I like this fight. I like

1941
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,080
Speaker 1: both of these fights. This one is again, I think

1942
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: the current rankings have MVP at like fifteen at welterweight,

1943
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: So it's a bit of a wild card middleweight move.

1944
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: Like he could get meaning Chary Bullet could get exposed

1945
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 2: by the way that MVP controls you with that with

1946
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: he can lull you into a scared sleep, with all

1947
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 2: the movements in the unpredictability total it could totally bring

1948
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: down the work ethic of Charbolt and make this a

1949
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 2: tough fight. But it's also one against an aging welterweight

1950
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,599
Speaker 2: that you could see Charbullet making that leap. It's tough

1951
01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 2: every time. I feel like we've seen, you know, ceilings

1952
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: coming in the future of how good he can be.

1953
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 2: He'll come through with a destructive knockout finish. I mean, yeah,

1954
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 2: they's spinning double spinning backfister elbow last time, just you know,

1955
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 2: just ridiculous.

1956
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: The possibility again, Charbott is going to be limited by

1957
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 1: the UFC's geographic calendar, so if they're gonna go to

1958
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:32,560
Speaker 1: study Arabia, he basically has to be on that or

1959
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: out of the UAE, right, That's what we think. So

1960
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:37,639
Speaker 1: that's part what's happening. But the MVP fight in particular

1961
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,680
Speaker 1: is just a fun matchup that could go a lot

1962
01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: of different ways. Bullet doesn't have to be probably doesn't

1963
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 1: worry about being taken down. In all likelihood, he is

1964
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:48,600
Speaker 1: the natural middleweight of the two. We've seen Michael v

1965
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: na Page person. We interviewed him in London. He's a

1966
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 1: big guy.

1967
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: His fault middleweight before, but not since twenty thirteen.

1968
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: Right, right, right, exactly, that's the point. He's much more

1969
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 1: naturally suited for welterweight. But nevertheless, it's a fun fight.

1970
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:00,640
Speaker 1: It is at a left field. But again, are the

1971
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: fans complaining. I don't hear any complaints. We like it. Yeah,

1972
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 1: it doesn't exactly fit the normal hierarchy of what you're

1973
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: looking for, but I think in the end it serves

1974
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 1: a lot of other roles that fans enjoy and for

1975
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: that reason, let a fly.

1976
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 2: Char Bolt's kind of in that gray area between being

1977
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: an attraction fighter and wanting to become a legit contender,

1978
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 2: and this is you gotta handle that carefully. This might

1979
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: be careful, but also enough of a challenge, So I

1980
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: like I like it. We'll see what happens. Agreed, Let's

1981
01:25:25,200 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: go to topic number five, which is what goes down

1982
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 2: Saturday in riadd Saudi Arabia the rematch of what we

1983
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: saw in May when Alexander USA, continued his unbeaten start

1984
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 2: to his career, handed the first defeat of Tyson Fury's

1985
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 2: career and became the first four belt undisputed heavyweight champion

1986
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: of this modern era. All four belts will not be

1987
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 2: at stake in this rematch because the IBF stripped Usk

1988
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: for taking this rematch and not defending against a mandatory

1989
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: Daniel Dubois of course, has picked up that title, But Luke,

1990
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: it doesn't change what the stakes are. We know what

1991
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: happened in that first fight when Usik won a unanimous decision,

1992
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 2: had Fury rocked wobbled nearly there. So what do you

1993
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: think is the biggest sort of storyline or point of

1994
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 2: focus that you have in the fan in you as

1995
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 2: you look ahead to Saturday's fight.

1996
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 1: I will tell you I am and I think that

1997
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: you might. I'm really curious to hear what you have

1998
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: to say about this. I have been reading about this fight.

1999
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: I've been reading about the storylines, most of the interesting

2000
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 1: storylines you got from the first fight that are not

2001
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,960
Speaker 1: really repeatable here. Right the first time, they thought it

2002
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: was hey, we haven't had a unified champion again, three belt,

2003
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,599
Speaker 1: four belt era basically since what Lennox holy Field two, Yes,

2004
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,800
Speaker 1: which had been twenty five years before that. Usik the

2005
01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,680
Speaker 1: great cruiserweight finally ends up becoming the great headweight of

2006
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 1: that era. We learned who the guy was at that

2007
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: time for this moment, the whole nine yards, like all

2008
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: of these grand visions and stories about history all led

2009
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 1: to that moment. This is a redo. The redo part

2010
01:26:59,320 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: to me only has major implications, I suppose right now

2011
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 1: for the fight itself. Now, obviously, if Fury wins, they're

2012
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 1: gonna do a trilogy, yes, But if Usik wins there,

2013
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: you don't really add a ton. I mean, I'm not

2014
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna say it sounds so crazy. A second fight over Fury,

2015
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: a big win would be hugely valuable. I'm not saying

2016
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,640
Speaker 1: it's not hope. I'm not being unclear by saying that.

2017
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: What I guess I'm trying to point out is the

2018
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 1: arc of history, the big narratives. They're not really a

2019
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: big part of the pre fight build here, not as.

2020
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 2: Much as the first, but they should be because it's

2021
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: almost like we accepted and understood that this was a

2022
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: two fight series, given the way the contract was set up,

2023
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 2: that the loser could activate the rematch, and that we

2024
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:42,960
Speaker 2: what is this really for? It's really for to find

2025
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 2: out whose era is this?

2026
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:44,679
Speaker 1: At heavyweight?

2027
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 2: Yes, and we don't really we all knew we weren't

2028
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 2: going to really know that until the after the second fight. Anyway,

2029
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,719
Speaker 2: the way it's set up, so it's sort of almost

2030
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: it's it's like a continuation.

2031
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: It's like round thirteen. What is one actual fight? So

2032
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 1: there's not I guess what I'm trying to point out

2033
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: is not that there's no story here. Of course there is,

2034
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: but it's just a dot dot dot continuation of the

2035
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,719
Speaker 1: same ones that we had, essentially, and these are huge stories.

2036
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: To your point, is Usik the guy of this generation?

2037
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: Can Fury wrestle that back? And if so, what will

2038
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 1: it mean, especially if Fury's able to get a dominant win,

2039
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: which it's going to be hard against Usik, but you know,

2040
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:18,640
Speaker 1: certainly on the table, but I don't think we have.

2041
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,000
Speaker 1: Like when I think about this fight and what's driving it,

2042
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: people are talking about the fight itself and how it

2043
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 1: might go, less about what it means. Because even if

2044
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 1: Fury wins, Usik has claimed something, at least in part,

2045
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: that cannot be taken from him.

2046
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 2: And if Usik has a chance to finish this career

2047
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,599
Speaker 2: undefeated after everything he's accomplished, he's going to have one

2048
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 2: of the craziest careers in history. And by proxy, if

2049
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 2: Fury can win the heavyweight title for the third time

2050
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 2: on Saturday and join the list that includes guys like

2051
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 2: Ali and holy Field, and it's a very short list,

2052
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: by the way, then we're not only setting up the

2053
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 2: stage for a trilogy, but it re establishes everything that

2054
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury has accomplished throughout his career. And let's not

2055
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 2: forget the result of the fight. Even though I picked

2056
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,320
Speaker 2: Usik and so did a lot of pe people in

2057
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 2: the first one, it was shocking to see the smaller

2058
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 2: man Usik not try to outbox Fury from distance and

2059
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 2: do what we most know Usik for, but was purposefully

2060
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: more offensive after what was a really good start for

2061
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Fury going to the body, acting like the bigger man,

2062
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: establishing some level of dominance. Luke, when that fight turned

2063
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 2: in the middle, it turned way more aggressively than we expected,

2064
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: where Usik could have Fury hurt. I think we've got

2065
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: a aerial replay of that round if you want to

2066
01:29:29,880 --> 01:29:32,080
Speaker 2: look back to May look you remember this. This is

2067
01:29:32,120 --> 01:29:35,439
Speaker 2: the round where Usk hurt Fury and nearly had him down.

2068
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Then they ended up calling a knockdown when.

2069
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: Fury when the road stumbled around and it took him

2070
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 1: a minute, and then he was saved by the bell essentially.

2071
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,759
Speaker 2: So the crazy thing is, we didn't expect this method

2072
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: of performance from Usik. I don't even think Fury did.

2073
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 2: You do have to wonder, because this is Fury. Did

2074
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 2: he take Usik somehow a little bit lightly and he

2075
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 2: didn't expect this right here, right here, that shot right there.

2076
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 2: So the whole point is, I think we all feel

2077
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 2: like Fury can fight better in the rematch. We were

2078
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 2: surprised at Usik, maybe even Fury we like I said,

2079
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 2: was surprised by that. But now it's can Fury go

2080
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 2: back to the drawing board wreck the wrong stylistically find

2081
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 2: a way to establish himself throughout the whole fight as

2082
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,559
Speaker 2: the bigger puncher and the bigger man, and make it

2083
01:30:15,640 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: really a fight on his terms the whole time. That's

2084
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 2: the central tension of what I want to see. Turkey

2085
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 2: also got them all on the both on FaceTime. So

2086
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,559
Speaker 2: a week out from the fight, let's see this humorous

2087
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: debacle we.

2088
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,680
Speaker 1: Need to put to us in this in this one called.

2089
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 5: Hello freak, Hello, Hello, Hello.

2090
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: How are you doing.

2091
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:47,760
Speaker 5: I'm doing good, I'm feel I'm very feel don't be afraid.

2092
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:53,160
Speaker 1: I will not leave you alone. I'm very afraid. Dude.

2093
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 2: This is like awesome, seriously, that these guys can be

2094
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,759
Speaker 2: this great in this legendary but they have a respect

2095
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,919
Speaker 2: for each other. There's almost a playfulness. I don't hate this, seriously,

2096
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 2: it's cool. These guys are hilarious.

2097
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I come for you barely, Luke.

2098
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 2: No one's talking about this moment from the first fight.

2099
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: Should they be talking about it more? This was in

2100
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 2: between rounds. Usk either vaped or there was some like

2101
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 2: illegal you know, inhaler or something. What do you make

2102
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 2: of that?

2103
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 1: Wait?

2104
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 2: What this was from their first fight? Footage between rounds

2105
01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: seemed to maybe catch Usik either vaping yea no.

2106
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,880
Speaker 1: That's probably concentrated oxygen.

2107
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 2: Or using what could be like an illegal inhaler. I

2108
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: don't know whatever became of that complaint, but it was.

2109
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,919
Speaker 1: I mean it's in Saudi Arabia, like they just journalists

2110
01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: there who cares well.

2111
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 2: We definitely want to see if Fury can change the outcome.

2112
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:46,360
Speaker 2: Let's hear from his promoter, Frank Warren, who believes that

2113
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 2: his fighter does have a very good strategy and angle

2114
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:50,759
Speaker 2: to come over the top and force that trilogy.

2115
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 12: Lucy has a weakness that Tyson did not exploit, like body,

2116
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 12: he didn't exploit enough. I'm telling you something that.

2117
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: Is it just a does he just have to be

2118
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: more aggressive?

2119
01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,760
Speaker 12: I think that's exactly even when he was backing off

2120
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 12: him when he was there was quite a bit in

2121
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,680
Speaker 12: the early rounds of that flight where Tyson was in

2122
01:32:10,680 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 12: the corner and he's in the corner and he's tucking

2123
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 12: up and Usik was being very aggressive. But what Usik

2124
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 12: does when he's got you, like, he stands square on

2125
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,040
Speaker 12: and that's when he was clipping him with an upper cut.

2126
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 2: He caught him every time with that.

2127
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 1: Gotta be careful what you say about Frank, I'll sue you,

2128
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: but he's full of shit. Tyson went to the body relentlessly.

2129
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 2: And then Usik made that midfight adjustment and it became

2130
01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 2: a completely different wrong. I think what he's saying is

2131
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 2: is Titan's got to be the bully in there, and

2132
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 2: he's got to be.

2133
01:32:37,479 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: Able to that.

2134
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 2: He's got to change the He's he has to control

2135
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 2: the terms of this right and that's always.

2136
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of the first fight

2137
01:32:44,520 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: with Wilder, where he was with Ben Davison, he was

2138
01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: fighting on the outside, and then the second fight he

2139
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 1: just took the fight to Wilder. How can you beat

2140
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Usik if he's on the front foot and then dominating

2141
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: the timing and then the distance and that long guard

2142
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,720
Speaker 1: that he uses. He's hard to beat that way. But

2143
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,960
Speaker 1: and I asked you this over text, is there a

2144
01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 1: guy who's really backed up consistently backed up anyway Usik?

2145
01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: And the answer was Jazora. But Chazora is not as

2146
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:09,960
Speaker 1: good as Fury.

2147
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Speaker 3: No.

2148
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:13,000
Speaker 2: It was brightest at times in that semi final of

2149
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,479
Speaker 2: the World Boxing super Series, which was probably u Sik's

2150
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 2: toughest and closest fight, but Usik inevitably turns it on

2151
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: you and starts coming after you in the second half

2152
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 2: of these fights and starts breaking you down and looking

2153
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 2: for the finish, even though he's not a big, big

2154
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:28,080
Speaker 2: puncher for this way.

2155
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 1: So I noticed something too that I didn't pick up

2156
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: on as readily. Just you know, sometimes you watch fights

2157
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,400
Speaker 1: and you see things you never saw before and not

2158
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 1: or at least you saw them in a way you

2159
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate. Fury has defense where his lead hand is

2160
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: down the whole time. Remember that, like he doesn't. He

2161
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 1: doesn't do this right and Usik does and one of

2162
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:49,479
Speaker 1: the there's many reasons for that. And again it's not

2163
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: like one style is wrong versus the other, but sometimes

2164
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:56,200
Speaker 1: it's not the right thing for the right circumstance. We'll

2165
01:33:56,240 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: talk more about this on Friday. Yeah, but Usik would

2166
01:33:58,479 --> 01:34:01,360
Speaker 1: bring his guard up, get popped on it, but not move,

2167
01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 1: and then march.

2168
01:34:03,040 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 2: So he never gets out of punching range. He just

2169
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:06,879
Speaker 2: keeps increasing that presce he never backs.

2170
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Up again long. But Fury will step and lean all

2171
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 1: the way to do this, and he ends up surrendering

2172
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:18,720
Speaker 1: space constantly. I really wonder, And dude, I'm not saying

2173
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:20,080
Speaker 1: anything that works.

2174
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 2: Against every other heavyweight, but Usik It's.

2175
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: That's totally right. Usik has just the right kind of

2176
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 1: setup where he.

2177
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 2: Pulls Fury's best strength, awave takes it away from him,

2178
01:34:30,680 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 2: which is why even we have to consider. Look, Fear's

2179
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: getting older, He's like thirty seven, thirty eight. Now the

2180
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 2: wars are starting to add up a little bit. Remember

2181
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 2: against Wilder he got dropped to total of what five

2182
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,720
Speaker 2: times in those two fights. I think he's not as

2183
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: quick and elusive like the Fury that be Klitschko. That

2184
01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,759
Speaker 2: guy's not there anymore. So I think more than ever,

2185
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,360
Speaker 2: Fury's gonna have to be the bigger man and make

2186
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 2: this and make that ring small, and cheat and lean

2187
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 2: and just really turn this into a war of attrition.

2188
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna break it down more stylistically on Friday, but

2189
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 2: I'm so fired up. I want to read you the

2190
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,520
Speaker 2: odds as we had in to hear. According to DraftKings,

2191
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 2: Usik minus one seventy Fury plus one forty, and this

2192
01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 2: is the first time Fury is the betting underdog closing

2193
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 2: since the second while their fight in twenty twenty. Real quick, though,

2194
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 2: I think we all believe that Fury will be better

2195
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,000
Speaker 2: in the second fight. But Luke, how much do you

2196
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 2: think mentally what went on with his wife being pregnant,

2197
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 2: Although he didn't find out that she miscarried the night

2198
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,640
Speaker 2: before the fight until after the fight, they held that

2199
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 2: from him, the fact that she didn't show up in

2200
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 2: her seat on fight night Fury was aware of that.

2201
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 2: It had to play some role. Again, I said earlier,

2202
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 2: maybe he overlooks some levels of how great Usik could be.

2203
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 2: I just felt like Fury was surprised in that fight

2204
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: with Usik's greatness, and I do wonder if some of

2205
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 2: those other factors contributed, with his wife and the concern

2206
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,400
Speaker 2: for the family, I would be surprised. If it didn't

2207
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:51,439
Speaker 2: play a role, I would be surprised. Yeah, maybe that

2208
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:54,759
Speaker 2: all leans to an even better, even closer fight on Saturday.

2209
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait to get into it even more. But Luke,

2210
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: one more thing from boxing over the weekend. Didn't even

2211
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:02,840
Speaker 2: preview this fight because it was Haimi Mungia on an

2212
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 2: ESPN Plus card from Tijuana in his home city getting

2213
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 2: the what amounted to a stay busy fight to get

2214
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 2: well fight right coming off of that lost to Canela

2215
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 2: Aversu has been gone a long time. Mangia at twenty

2216
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,480
Speaker 2: eight was a minus twenty five hundred betting favorite against

2217
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 2: Francis Bruno Serrachi Sarachi, who, by the way, had a

2218
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,600
Speaker 2: record coming in of twenty five zero to two with

2219
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 2: five KOs and was a plus twelve hundred underdog coming

2220
01:36:32,120 --> 01:36:38,800
Speaker 2: in Luke Thomas. Mongia outlanded. He landed three times as

2221
01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,920
Speaker 2: many punches as his opponent, knocked the dude down in

2222
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:45,679
Speaker 2: the second round. His opponent's starting to make a little

2223
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 2: bit of a comeback here and there, but it really

2224
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 2: was one punch that made this your upset of the year,

2225
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,960
Speaker 2: one of the biggest upsets we've seen mathematically in many years.

2226
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 2: Look at this right hand counter that just took Mongia's

2227
01:36:59,280 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: soul KO six upset and asked if they wants to rematch,

2228
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 2: Bruno was like, yeah, I'm really the middleweight. It's not

2229
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:11,559
Speaker 2: even my my real weight maybe like he basically was like, yeah, whatever,

2230
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:13,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, this isn't even my weight class, bro.

2231
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:16,120
Speaker 1: How often do French fighters beat Mexican fighters?

2232
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:17,240
Speaker 2: Almost never?

2233
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: Almost never. Look at this bah and it's not even

2234
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: in like an interesting moment, It's just Mungia plays reckless dude.

2235
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 2: Mungia was dominant early.

2236
01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he plays reckless.

2237
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 2: He does, he always does. But he's got a great chin.

2238
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: I you know, you wouldn't have expected that twenty years.

2239
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean now he's getting I mean, yeah, he's fucking taking.

2240
01:37:34,080 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: So what does it say about Canelo.

2241
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,160
Speaker 2: The longevity of the chin? The I mean, he's just

2242
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:40,719
Speaker 2: he's great.

2243
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 1: He's just an altimate. He couldn't I know that kid's

2244
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: carried him.

2245
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:46,800
Speaker 2: Oh he did. I agree with you, he carried him.

2246
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 2: I just I don't think that you. I don't think

2247
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 2: you put the stain that the fight shouldn't have happened.

2248
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,559
Speaker 2: It's not a legitimate right just because he carried him.

2249
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 11: You know.

2250
01:37:54,120 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 2: But that fight was was kind of a you know,

2251
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,160
Speaker 2: some action back and forth early on. It was it

2252
01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 2: was ass Anyway, we have a replay here of that knockout.

2253
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,759
Speaker 2: Watch the reaction. First of all, look at the chin snap,

2254
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: and then look at Chavez Sr. Who is doing commentary

2255
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: ring side.

2256
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:15,439
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's like all of my children.

2257
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,760
Speaker 2: Let me yes, Wow, tough to see. We're gonna have

2258
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:20,599
Speaker 2: to see mong Gia bounce back from that. But those

2259
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,520
Speaker 2: are your five topics before we get into my she hat.

2260
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:27,960
Speaker 2: We have opened up the floodgates for you guys, the fans,

2261
01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 2: every Sunday night at Morning Combat on Instagram and Twitter.

2262
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 2: We ask you to ask us questions and we'll answer

2263
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:37,720
Speaker 2: them and probably make fun. Yeah. This one's called d

2264
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 2: MS from dogs. I don't know why we keep that

2265
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 2: sound in our show.

2266
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 1: That's you and your wife's ear.

2267
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's that's inappropriate talk. That is that has gone

2268
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: too far, Thank you very much. Our first one's from

2269
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 2: Andrew row rat No, Andrew, roar it. Andrew. He says,

2270
01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 2: how do you feel about Colby versus Dustin Poirier now

2271
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 2: at this point in their careers with both out of

2272
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 2: title contentions? Dream for a fight night in New Orleans?

2273
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 2: That would make Pourier happy in the location, in the setup.

2274
01:39:12,360 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 2: But he's going on record and saying he doesn't want

2275
01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 2: to help Cooby.

2276
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 1: I genuinely would not care if we never saw Colby

2277
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: fight again.

2278
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:18,559
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that.

2279
01:39:18,760 --> 01:39:22,559
Speaker 1: I genuinely would not care. His style aged out, he

2280
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 1: is deeply out of practice. Yes, he doesn't have a

2281
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 1: relevant skill set for the top of the division anymore.

2282
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 2: What would happen in that fight? What would happen. I mean,

2283
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 2: Kobe would be a dog if Dustin doesn't finish him.

2284
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,759
Speaker 2: Or are we looking at like a five round largely

2285
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: one sided striking affair, or would Dustin get fight? Probably this,

2286
01:39:45,200 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 2: Dustin get taken down a lot.

2287
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: He could get I'm sure he would get taken down

2288
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 1: at points. Koby's got a little bit of craft as

2289
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:50,800
Speaker 1: it comes to that.

2290
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 2: But are we talking ourselves into this right now?

2291
01:39:53,080 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't. I don't care.

2292
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:54,639
Speaker 6: I don't.

2293
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I would rather what would you ray to see that?

2294
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Or him versus fucking Hooker?

2295
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 2: Or look, what's the best Poitier retirement fight?

2296
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I think he runs through Kolby.

2297
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 4: I don't think that goes the distance or anything.

2298
01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I would. I think favoring Dustin makes sense.

2299
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Kolby can be tricky at times, but the rematch front.

2300
01:40:13,200 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 2: We don't need an Max trilogy.

2301
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, hook Hooker rematch sounds good to me.

2302
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:18,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that, Okay, I'd rather have the Chandler.

2303
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:22,759
Speaker 1: I'll take that too, Kichi trilogy less, So I'm interested

2304
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: in that one because they're both you know, Washy Yeah, well,

2305
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: I mean you know it's his last fight.

2306
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 2: Hey, let's not forget what he did to Islam. I'm

2307
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 2: still shocked that he turned the fight. For a moment,

2308
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:31,920
Speaker 2: he turned the fight.

2309
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: Dustin is a again. I think he's going to be

2310
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 1: a leftlong martial artist on some kind, you know.

2311
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:41,760
Speaker 2: Really knocking dudes out in bars, late in the training.

2312
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:42,599
Speaker 1: In the gym, training other people.

2313
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:46,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hear from Cimac ninety four. If Ilia is

2314
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:49,360
Speaker 2: to move up to lightweight, do you give him an

2315
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:52,479
Speaker 2: instant title shot or do you give him olivera first

2316
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,439
Speaker 2: and with the vacant featherweight, is Folk versus Vulk versus

2317
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,880
Speaker 2: Diego a lock to fight for that? Or could you

2318
01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:02,160
Speaker 2: see them going a different path.

2319
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: If he does move up. I could see that being

2320
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: a lock. Yes, don't what else. I don't know what

2321
01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 1: else makes the most sense, given that Maxim.

2322
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 4: Loye is like the other dark horse in that division,

2323
01:41:12,640 --> 01:41:13,440
Speaker 4: but nobody.

2324
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:14,960
Speaker 1: They just want them. He just want the fucking prelimbs.

2325
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:18,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's a good point. You know, anybody Diego,

2326
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 1: I know, I know I was there, I saw it,

2327
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying.

2328
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 2: Oliver, it would be amazing.

2329
01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: I actually do not think that if he moves up,

2330
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:27,280
Speaker 1: she get a title shot right away? You got to

2331
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 1: beat someone else first, dude, Like, if you're gonna just

2332
01:41:29,640 --> 01:41:32,759
Speaker 1: if you're gonna just abandon the division after one fucking

2333
01:41:32,840 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 1: title defense, no chance you get a title shot after that.

2334
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 2: No chance. Well he's not asking for it, which is nice.

2335
01:41:38,680 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: Good. He doesn't deserve it.

2336
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 2: Now, I'll talk that way about your bone.

2337
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: He's he's you know me, I'm a gito, but I'm

2338
01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:49,719
Speaker 1: telling you I don't. I don't like the ship. You

2339
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,040
Speaker 1: just fucking assumed control of this thing, and now you're

2340
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: gonna abandon it. Okay, you beat Charles's different conversation, but

2341
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 1: you gotta beat Charles, thank you.

2342
01:41:57,040 --> 01:41:59,160
Speaker 2: Let's hear from a man and his cat am I

2343
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 2: talking to myself here, all right? Who are your three

2344
01:42:02,040 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: dark horse fighters to keep an eye on in twenty

2345
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 2: twenty five? So it's not necessarily the ones like Peyton

2346
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 2: Talbot who are like we feel like, are you know,

2347
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 2: let's see this prospect breakout. It's people that might be

2348
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 2: middling but ready to put together a new Mansa type

2349
01:42:16,680 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 2: run right now, six in a row. I mean, who

2350
01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,960
Speaker 2: do you think is kind of poised and has yet

2351
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 2: to really hit that full ceiling to kind of put

2352
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 2: it all together.

2353
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:29,760
Speaker 1: Jesus, that's a tough question. It is interesting, you know what,

2354
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:32,639
Speaker 1: let's go to a degenerate gambler.

2355
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 4: The only one I could come up with. Me and

2356
01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 4: BC were talking pre show is he's already top ten.

2357
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:39,560
Speaker 4: So I don't love him as a dark horse day No,

2358
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 4: sue Almabayav. He's a bandam weight, as a out of Kazakhstan.

2359
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:46,080
Speaker 4: He's really fucking good, said. No one knows who he is, Yeah,

2360
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 4: but he's I think he's ranked seventh in band weight.

2361
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,320
Speaker 1: I was talking to some guy last night on Twitter

2362
01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: who follows the Russian mma scene, and they were telling

2363
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: me that there's there's several guys like a Bartannian, there's

2364
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 1: one of them where like, these guys are ready to

2365
01:42:56,520 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: be in the UFC. Yeah, but the UFC just won't

2366
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,280
Speaker 1: pay them, but the Russian promoters will pay them. So

2367
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 1: they're like, well, fuck it, I guess I'll just keep

2368
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,720
Speaker 1: fighting in Russia. And then, you know, we're kind of

2369
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:09,240
Speaker 1: being robbed of some of these other talents that are

2370
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:09,719
Speaker 1: out there.

2371
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

2372
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 1: You know Joel Alvarez, we talked about him earlier, but

2373
01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 1: he does seem to be ready to move.

2374
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,559
Speaker 2: He looks like he could he could get get a

2375
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 2: streak and keep the streak going and stay dangerous and

2376
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 2: improve with each fight, which is what you need to see.

2377
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 2: It's not just like who brings the action. You got

2378
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 2: to have somebody that can put this together and climb

2379
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,640
Speaker 2: the ladder. I'm trying to think there's gotta be some

2380
01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:29,400
Speaker 2: more obvious ones.

2381
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in the women's game?

2382
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:35,760
Speaker 2: I mean, I wanted to be able to tell you

2383
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:37,760
Speaker 2: that it was Miranda Maverick, but even though she won

2384
01:43:37,840 --> 01:43:40,800
Speaker 2: again over the weekend, it just now I get why

2385
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 2: she doesn't have a ranking.

2386
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 1: And I mean, by the way, did I tell you

2387
01:43:43,160 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I think Shana Dobson teaches boxing classes at my gym. No. So,

2388
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 1: I was lifting weights and then they have TVs all

2389
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 1: up on the on the you know the whatever, and

2390
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,920
Speaker 1: half of them are just first take and you know, reruns.

2391
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:57,840
Speaker 1: But then they have some TVs that are like slide

2392
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 1: shows about stuff that's happening at the gym, hey clips

2393
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:02,519
Speaker 1: and whatever, and then it was like, you know, meet

2394
01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: the coach and it was like, you know, a boxing

2395
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 1: professional UFC VET and uh and I looked at the

2396
01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 1: screen and is coach Shana? I was like, who would

2397
01:44:11,680 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 1: be the UFC vet that matches the description? Shana Dobson,

2398
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,800
Speaker 1: You're always like, listen, you know.

2399
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:18,400
Speaker 2: You should invite her to your front yard.

2400
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 1: She didn't have the most esteemed UFC crews, but that

2401
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: went over Agapova one of the all time by odds

2402
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: percentage or by odds wise, one of the all time

2403
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 1: biggest upsets in women's MMA. That's a real thing.

2404
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 2: I know, I remember that, I remember that breakthrough. When

2405
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: do you think Natalia Silva fits this category? She's too

2406
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 2: close to contention, She's.

2407
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 1: A little close, but I think dark horse in the

2408
01:44:39,360 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: sense that people have maybe forgotten about her or they

2409
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: haven't really learned enough about her. She's definitely I think

2410
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 1: could qualify for that for sure. For sure, she fights

2411
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:49,479
Speaker 1: a long as the apex shows like people.

2412
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 2: Don't know dude. Instead of talking about Taporia moving up,

2413
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:53,160
Speaker 2: what can we talk about Islam moving up? Because I

2414
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 2: want to see Husmann Muga met off at Intent for

2415
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: the lightweight title.

2416
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, I would love to be awesome.

2417
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 2: Imagine if Umar, us On and Islam all have UFC

2418
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: titles at the same time. I guess it is possible.

2419
01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:07,360
Speaker 2: We'd have to I mean, can Islam contend at the

2420
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:12,320
Speaker 2: next division? Yes, be interesting to Yes, be very interesting

2421
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,320
Speaker 2: to add his name Don Davis getting spicy takes on Twitter,

2422
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 2: Don Davis, Yeah, getting a little passive aggress there.

2423
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:20,560
Speaker 1: A little little sound and fury references.

2424
01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:23,160
Speaker 2: Let's go over to number four. This is uh C

2425
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:25,679
Speaker 2: mac ninety four, the same guy as the second question.

2426
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 2: We must need more good questions out there, despite some

2427
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,600
Speaker 2: of the title fights already being looked in Oh for

2428
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: the belt twenty five? Who do you guys think should

2429
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:35,679
Speaker 2: be fighting for the belt in every division?

2430
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:36,520
Speaker 1: First?

2431
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: Okay, flyweight should be kai Kara, bantam Weight is Umar

2432
01:45:41,960 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 2: feather is uh a tough one.

2433
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 1: I think it's I think if if Ilia is gone,

2434
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:48,599
Speaker 1: it's vulk.

2435
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:51,759
Speaker 2: I think Diego Lopez is in the fight no matter what, right.

2436
01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 1: Or yes, I'd be okay.

2437
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 2: Well unless unless UFC asked Okay, if UFC asked Ilia

2438
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:59,680
Speaker 2: to fight one more at featherweight, do you think it

2439
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 2: would they'd want it for Lopez because I think he's

2440
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: like the best long term.

2441
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,360
Speaker 1: Well, the thing is they got to keep Vulcan rotation.

2442
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 1: That's the other problem.

2443
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,680
Speaker 2: It's true as well's we gotta Yeah, we'll have to

2444
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: see what happened more. We need to see more. Islam

2445
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 2: will fight your guy, the Armenian Hulk for a second time,

2446
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 2: So it's that, no doubt about it. Also, at welter weight,

2447
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:24,120
Speaker 2: it's going to be shoft caught. Then at middle it's

2448
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:27,080
Speaker 2: we already have a fight with Strickland, So what else

2449
01:46:27,080 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 2: does this guy want from you? Aliath Heavyweight is going

2450
01:46:31,200 --> 01:46:38,040
Speaker 2: to be Aspinall versus Curtis Blades. Uh, there we go.

2451
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:40,800
Speaker 2: Then we go to women's straw it's gonna be Souarez,

2452
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:42,840
Speaker 2: and then fly is probably.

2453
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: Gonna be Manna.

2454
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 2: It should be should and then the other division you're

2455
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 2: gonna get Uh no, yeah, that's next, right.

2456
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, should be. I mean they haven't announced it, but

2457
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: that seems like the one to do.

2458
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 2: Oh Dana's tease of a huge fight. It's not gonna

2459
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 2: be Cyborg coming back, right, Rosy versus Rowsy.

2460
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Just saying like Rowsy at all? You know?

2461
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she made all those ct com

2462
01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:04,960
Speaker 2: y's true.

2463
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:09,080
Speaker 1: Well so did vander Lay and Fabricio and lots of guys.

2464
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 2: All right, one more for you from World's Worst Hero,

2465
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,719
Speaker 2: which could describe Luke Thomas. What are you guys? Giving

2466
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:21,599
Speaker 2: each other or getting from getting each other for communicable diseases. Yeah,

2467
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 2: we didn't do a secret Santa here elephant what they

2468
01:47:25,800 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 2: call it some people in my family. I'm gonna be honest.

2469
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 2: We called it and still call it the Chinese grab bag,

2470
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 2: and that's very intensive. I don't know. I mean, that's

2471
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,200
Speaker 2: just like, you know, looking back, we should probably they should.

2472
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 1: They should know, you know what we grew up with

2473
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,960
Speaker 1: that we no one uses any more, thank god.

2474
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:47,400
Speaker 2: The N word. Oh wait, sorry that Yeah, I don't

2475
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: want to say it, but like they're you know, blank

2476
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 2: giving you I'm talking about no and I don't want

2477
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:54,720
Speaker 2: to know. I don't like you know, I don't like

2478
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 2: this topic.

2479
01:47:56,560 --> 01:47:57,920
Speaker 1: No one says it anymore. So it's great.

2480
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 2: What would I get Luke? I would get Luke. I

2481
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 2: would give you some hair dye. You won't do one round.

2482
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,599
Speaker 1: I don't understand why you want me to dye my hair.

2483
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:09,000
Speaker 2: You'll look instantly fifteen years younger, Like you don't care

2484
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 2: about looking younger, not for other people, but for yourself.

2485
01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look in the mirror and need

2486
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: to prove that to myself. Do you feel that needs

2487
01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: prove it?

2488
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 2: All night I tell you that I get a haircut

2489
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 2: every two and a half weeks, and if I stretch

2490
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 2: it even a couple of days, I'm depressed looking in

2491
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,880
Speaker 2: the mirror as these long grays are sticking out instantly

2492
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 2: when they shave it. I feel I'm going to say

2493
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,280
Speaker 2: at least twelve years younger every single.

2494
01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would get you? What would I get you?

2495
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,080
Speaker 2: A book? You don't really read much?

2496
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: I can tell long only what would you get us

2497
01:48:43,520 --> 01:48:44,560
Speaker 1: for Christmas?

2498
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 4: Some delta's yeah, yeah, all reliable around there is.

2499
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:52,759
Speaker 2: We've got one more saying and thank you for dms

2500
01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:54,679
Speaker 2: from Donk's a reminder that you can hit our email

2501
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 2: address Morning combat at gmail dot com for graphic for it.

2502
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,320
Speaker 2: Now you can contact the show. You can show Mikey

2503
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 2: your piece, No, don't do that. You can also send

2504
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,639
Speaker 2: in your fan submissions, your dead wrongs. We'll read those

2505
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,880
Speaker 2: on Friday. So please, we're trying to make We're trying

2506
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,439
Speaker 2: to make fans ubs great again. Let's see what the

2507
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:12,760
Speaker 2: people have for us. Let's do it happy. Where are

2508
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:15,719
Speaker 2: you at? J Piquette? That's why I'm talking about my people.

2509
01:49:16,200 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 2: Let's go to my final segment here in the show,

2510
01:49:18,160 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: where I look through my vcs and find the most

2511
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:24,120
Speaker 2: viral video potential to get Luke to laugh really hard.

2512
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:25,760
Speaker 2: This one's called have you seen this shit?

2513
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 1: Who?

2514
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 2: Indeed? Tip your bartenders. There you go, Luke. UFC Tampa

2515
01:49:38,160 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 2: was on Saturday and somebody made this great meme of

2516
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:44,559
Speaker 2: Hulkogan before the fight and after, which is great. And

2517
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 2: I saw you had some fun with that picture on

2518
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 2: social media as well. Some people were saying, no, he's

2519
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 2: just writing new Manza, That's what he's writing, Oh, to

2520
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 2: celebrate the victory. There you go, Luke. Did you see

2521
01:49:56,920 --> 01:50:00,360
Speaker 2: that face off that the Warlock moderated between the Andrew

2522
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:03,160
Speaker 2: Tate look like that they call bottom G and the

2523
01:50:03,200 --> 01:50:11,240
Speaker 2: guy they call not Jake Paul bottom G.

2524
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: There is there is no check that Gareth won cash.

2525
01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: What is.

2526
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 2: Oh the Warlock of us?

2527
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: This is the most interesting thing that's happened in boxing

2528
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: in twenty years. Dude.

2529
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:31,160
Speaker 2: I want to show that called bottom GHO.

2530
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:34,799
Speaker 1: What the fuck is Gareth? Gareth A Davis wearing the chain.

2531
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 2: Walllet dude, the chain hold on. My dad always wore

2532
01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 2: the chain walls.

2533
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: Fuck, what the fuck is that you could walk a

2534
01:50:41,439 --> 01:50:42,479
Speaker 1: dog with that one? Dude?

2535
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:44,840
Speaker 2: My dad wore the chain wall every single day with

2536
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:45,960
Speaker 2: a black leather wallet.

2537
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,559
Speaker 1: And one time I had to sit next to Gareth.

2538
01:50:47,560 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 1: We were doing like a bell tour event and I

2539
01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: had to ride the bus from like the hotel to

2540
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 1: the event. He would not start. He close talked to

2541
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:54,480
Speaker 1: me for forty.

2542
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,400
Speaker 2: He's violated me with his hands. I do want to

2543
01:50:56,400 --> 01:50:56,720
Speaker 2: say it.

2544
01:50:56,680 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 1: Was not and I'm like, please, please, okay, I need

2545
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 1: an adult. You're making me uncomfortable.

2546
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 2: Well, he also makes me uncomfortable. I love the man,

2547
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 2: I swear I don't like him the murdering him, Yes,

2548
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 2: that's true. The in person times with the Warlock, it

2549
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 2: can be. You can roll the dice. You could get

2550
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 2: any version of him. But I always, uh, I always

2551
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 2: cheer for that guy just the same. Let's keep it

2552
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:24,880
Speaker 2: going here, drive fast, all gas, Luke. Okay, all right,

2553
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 2: here's a little bathroom thunder for you.

2554
01:51:30,240 --> 01:51:31,360
Speaker 5: There's thunder.

2555
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: That's me every time I go to the non shitting shitter.

2556
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:41,559
Speaker 2: Well, speaking of your history at Joseph A Bank, we

2557
01:51:41,600 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 2: finally have footage of you, Luke there. This was supposed

2558
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,000
Speaker 2: to have sound, but it didn't come with it, and

2559
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 2: it's I don't know if you can get the full

2560
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:50,479
Speaker 2: translation without the.

2561
01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Sound good Bye Suspenders.

2562
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 2: When I was there, here's Luke when he asked, do

2563
01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,400
Speaker 2: you have a restroom? Okay, it's back there, let me go? Yeah,

2564
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 2: here we go?

2565
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: And uh?

2566
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:02,959
Speaker 2: Three?

2567
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:03,559
Speaker 1: Who was this?

2568
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 2: Two? One? This is getting uncomfortable. This is some nineteen

2569
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:11,920
Speaker 2: eighty seven movie.

2570
01:52:12,040 --> 01:52:14,000
Speaker 1: This is like big Trouble in Little China when all

2571
01:52:14,080 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 1: the guys like like uh and.

2572
01:52:16,720 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 2: Then by the third flush it kind of does. They're like,

2573
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 2: sure you okay in there. I want to drink that viper.

2574
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,519
Speaker 1: You know that. They really get to the point of

2575
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:27,559
Speaker 1: this joke very quickly.

2576
01:52:29,439 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 2: The sound was gonna help it along.

2577
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 1: Are we go?

2578
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: There is Luke? There you go? Jesus, Yeah, I wonder

2579
01:52:35,120 --> 01:52:37,559
Speaker 2: what that guy? All Right, it's time for MMA fighters

2580
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 2: in the wild.

2581
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 1: You know.

2582
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,519
Speaker 2: I love this segment. John Jones has new artwork in

2583
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 2: his house.

2584
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: That is hilarious. Oh that's not really going up there,

2585
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 1: but that would be funny.

2586
01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 2: He's just lean into it and put it up there. Right.

2587
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not my favorite.

2588
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,559
Speaker 2: People got mad when Ali and Fraser finally became friends

2589
01:52:58,600 --> 01:53:01,639
Speaker 2: later in life. I I want to fight forever. Feeling

2590
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 2: with John and DC like it's never settled.

2591
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 1: You know, that wouldn't bother me one way.

2592
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 2: Like when Rashad made up with John, I thought that

2593
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 2: was great and they both were healing and it was cool.

2594
01:53:11,720 --> 01:53:14,680
Speaker 2: No not DC, No, no, no. I still want them

2595
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:17,840
Speaker 2: to have a trilogy. I do, and I don't want

2596
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 2: to talk about it. What about DC coming out of

2597
01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 2: retirement heavyweight and fighting John in a trilogy? You're not

2598
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:22,640
Speaker 2: into that?

2599
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 1: No, he's washed.

2600
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 2: I wish he didn't get that wash and put on the.

2601
01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:29,400
Speaker 1: Locker employees.

2602
01:53:29,439 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: I didn't say it out loud on the podcast, I

2603
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 2: don't think. But Greg Hardy, speaking of m A Fighters

2604
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 2: in the Wild, was back in a boxing ring in

2605
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:38,000
Speaker 2: Moscow on short notice.

2606
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,080
Speaker 1: This is the only guy who's beat up women, speaking

2607
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 1: of the last Gentleman, this is the only guy that's

2608
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 1: beat up women that MMA fans cheer against.

2609
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Well, he's been knocked out a few times

2610
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:51,240
Speaker 2: since coming to boxing, and it happened again here. This

2611
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 2: time was brutal.

2612
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:54,799
Speaker 1: He's got really good defense.

2613
01:53:55,360 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 4: He's gfl's newest signing yes or he's gonna end bad.

2614
01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 2: Well, this fight's about to end be okay.

2615
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,559
Speaker 1: That is, he just gets knocked out in like these

2616
01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:07,679
Speaker 1: like rubber bands snapping kind of ways.

2617
01:54:07,760 --> 01:54:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough to watch. Let's go over to Islamaha

2618
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 2: Jev's gym with coach Habib and they have a special guest.

2619
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 5: Let's go, thank you welcome.

2620
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,080
Speaker 2: So look, if that's the p I in Vegas and

2621
01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 2: Dana just had a conversation.

2622
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:41,840
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be sised, I'd be sized to get

2623
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:42,400
Speaker 1: DJ back.

2624
01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 2: So is DJ not going to be part of this team?

2625
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 2: Is this just like a dropping in on the camp?

2626
01:54:46,560 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't understand.

2627
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't know either way, Iron will sharpen Iron?

2628
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's only high quality MMA right there.

2629
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 2: Also, Bryce Mitchell was on some weird talk show and

2630
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:57,840
Speaker 2: then it got very Bryce Mitchell.

2631
01:54:57,600 --> 01:55:00,800
Speaker 1: Like, and man be a loud and playing boys.

2632
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:06,320
Speaker 3: That's an abomination, And uh, dude, it makes me sick,

2633
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 3: to be honest, And there's so much of that going on.

2634
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Even at the Olympics. There was this dude who is

2635
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 3: a boxer. He beat the crap out of these females,

2636
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,920
Speaker 3: and uh, they totally rigged it. And I honestly think

2637
01:55:17,960 --> 01:55:20,840
Speaker 3: that you know the dude I'm talking about. Yes, I

2638
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 3: think it's Colin Kaepernick. I really do.

2639
01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 1: I really think they.

2640
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 3: I really think that that dude he looks you or

2641
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,040
Speaker 3: she or he whatever, he looks just like Colin Kaepernick.

2642
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about that.

2643
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 3: I really think that they in there.

2644
01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could skip that one. You didn't have to error.

2645
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,400
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like, where's the punchline? This has to be

2646
01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 2: some like.

2647
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,280
Speaker 1: That dude on the left is like notoriously insane?

2648
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 2: Was that dude on the right series?

2649
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you.

2650
01:55:56,560 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 2: Wow, oh my god, Okay, let's go over to shoot

2651
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:03,880
Speaker 2: over ZIL one twenty seven. Mama, there goes that one

2652
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 2: armed man. This man's name is Marnie Max and he

2653
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:09,880
Speaker 2: is the fella in black. Watch him get this vicious

2654
01:56:10,000 --> 01:56:10,720
Speaker 2: koh luke.

2655
01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:11,120
Speaker 8: Now.

2656
01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,040
Speaker 2: I don't know the level of competition, but shout out

2657
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 2: to this fella right.

2658
01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:16,520
Speaker 1: Oh, just like clubbing him with that thing.

2659
01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 2: This is a y a Gribacca hitman special. I once

2660
01:56:20,640 --> 01:56:22,920
Speaker 2: was out of Dave Matthews concert on the Lawn where

2661
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:24,920
Speaker 2: there was a fight between a one armed guy and

2662
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 2: a one legged guy and ended bloody and gross.

2663
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:29,040
Speaker 1: Well that was a fight between two guys who are

2664
01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: the jiggliest titties.

2665
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:33,000
Speaker 2: I've ever said that too on tit Yes, uh, luke,

2666
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:35,680
Speaker 2: they finally have pictures of the first astronaut to land

2667
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 2: on uranus. Sorry in uranus, sorry in that's it that

2668
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 2: that does change the joke a little.

2669
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 1: I have been told that it's again. I don't know shit.

2670
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 1: I have been told it's pronounced uranus.

2671
01:56:48,440 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure they you know, at some point change.

2672
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2673
01:56:50,880 --> 01:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to this weird old guy basketball league.

2674
01:56:54,440 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 2: Watch this guy number fifty one. I better retire sooner.

2675
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 2: This will probably become me given my track record. Look

2676
01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 2: at this dude right there? See that fifty one?

2677
01:57:02,880 --> 01:57:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2678
01:57:04,640 --> 01:57:07,680
Speaker 2: Oh shpinning back elbow?

2679
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: Okay, yo, where go show that again?

2680
01:57:13,440 --> 01:57:14,480
Speaker 2: Has a beeB in this game?

2681
01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,839
Speaker 1: Yo? Like this is this? Is that Dagaistani style of basketball?

2682
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 2: Guy Abdulman?

2683
01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Definitely?

2684
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, bitch, you know I need to retire. I'm gonna

2685
01:57:25,960 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 2: end up on the wrong end of one of those

2686
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna get.

2687
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

2688
01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to Asia for our dish

2689
01:57:31,080 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 2: of the week, Luke, would you eat this?

2690
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:35,960
Speaker 1: Asian food is delicious? It is They know what they're

2691
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:40,120
Speaker 1: doing that there's a hot pan, sir. Why are you

2692
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:40,919
Speaker 1: wearing a hospital?

2693
01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2694
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 11: All right?

2695
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,200
Speaker 2: Hey, did you hear about Tammy crashing our golf cart

2696
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 2: at the village's luke.

2697
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 1: Oh, you dumb ass. Oh, and of course it's gonna

2698
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,800
Speaker 1: keep going, right, it's gonna go back to the street

2699
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 1: and the car is gonna hit Look at look at this.

2700
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: Look how pink she is from just being sun poisoned. Okay,

2701
01:58:08,200 --> 01:58:12,680
Speaker 1: all right, okay, this person revoke their right.

2702
01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:18,240
Speaker 11: Oh I was gonna say, what the hell just happened

2703
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 11: around your house with my phone?

2704
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:22,280
Speaker 8: Yes, your house?

2705
01:58:22,440 --> 01:58:26,520
Speaker 3: Your phone is in here. Okay, okay, yeah, I'm fine.

2706
01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: But also you're not fine. You're extremely stupid.

2707
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 2: All right, Look, let's go to this bike race. I

2708
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 2: didn't realize bike racing was this dangerous. When it turns

2709
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:41,160
Speaker 2: into door, it turns into roller derby. Watch this sh

2710
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 2: catch a souvenir, catch that fade, right.

2711
01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: I gotta watch this sport. God.

2712
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2713
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,880
Speaker 1: Do you think the athletes in this sport also have

2714
01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:53,160
Speaker 1: views from nineteen seventy five? Probably?

2715
01:58:53,280 --> 01:58:55,640
Speaker 2: But Luke, can you do this on concrete? Is the

2716
01:58:55,720 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 2: question This next man asked.

2717
01:59:00,120 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 3: You know.

2718
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 1: You can't do it? Well, you can't do this, o.

2719
01:59:05,800 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 2: Cont Look neither could he? Apparently somebody clean up over there.

2720
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:18,600
Speaker 2: That's wild. All right, let's go stop.

2721
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: You know that's what UNC stands for, right I do.

2722
01:59:21,480 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 2: The reason why I said it that way is because

2723
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:25,560
Speaker 2: I have an uncle, uncle Mike that I call and

2724
01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:26,520
Speaker 2: he calls me nef.

2725
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:28,400
Speaker 1: All right, I don't agree. That's the thing.

2726
01:59:28,440 --> 01:59:30,600
Speaker 2: That's so damn real thing. I can bring him on

2727
01:59:30,640 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 2: the show to prove that too. All right, bad parenting

2728
01:59:33,720 --> 01:59:38,120
Speaker 2: moves of the week. Here's your first one, Luke. There's

2729
01:59:38,160 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 2: a baby there on the stairs. I don't know if

2730
01:59:40,240 --> 01:59:40,800
Speaker 2: you can see that.

2731
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, Oh.

2732
01:59:43,200 --> 01:59:50,800
Speaker 2: Wow, I didn't think you should. Okay, all right, call.

2733
01:59:50,760 --> 01:59:52,600
Speaker 1: Child Protective Services from this morn.

2734
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 2: Let's keep them on the whole, Luke, because we've got

2735
01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 2: another one.

2736
01:59:55,120 --> 01:59:58,680
Speaker 1: Al right, show me you can go forever forever eternal

2737
01:59:59,680 --> 02:00:10,240
Speaker 1: wanted on the chicken. Why is there a dog?

2738
02:00:10,360 --> 02:00:10,600
Speaker 4: Yes?

2739
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,960
Speaker 2: Fuck sweet chin music that is.

2740
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:25,000
Speaker 1: Show more time. Why is there a shirtless man a

2741
02:00:25,080 --> 02:00:28,360
Speaker 1: dog with no fucking leash? Dude?

2742
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,080
Speaker 2: I tell my kids all the time, they don't believe it.

2743
02:00:30,120 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 2: In my hometown, we went to Cumberland Farms one night

2744
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 2: at like midnight on a Saturday night, me and Bogo,

2745
02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:36,720
Speaker 2: and there was a shirtless guy with a book constrict

2746
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 2: around his neck, just walking around the candy aisle, just

2747
02:00:39,720 --> 02:00:43,160
Speaker 2: just casually, you know that's what happens. Wow, Luke, you

2748
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:46,320
Speaker 2: sent me this Chilean Christmas video of how the Crinch

2749
02:00:46,680 --> 02:00:48,680
Speaker 2: stole Christmas and then stole that ass.

2750
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 1: Right, watch the ship. They're trying to fuck with the Grinch.

2751
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:07,320
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, that the Grin's got three pieces about that, Cindy,

2752
02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 13: all right?

2753
02:01:09,880 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 2: You know these Amazon drivers are the real heroes during

2754
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,600
Speaker 2: the holidays, right, lou tough job, but even they can

2755
02:01:14,640 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 2: get sent to the land of wind and ghosts.

2756
02:01:19,760 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Oh, what the fun?

2757
02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:24,240
Speaker 2: I think he was just fencing. Did you see that?

2758
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:27,440
Speaker 1: Oh he was doing the tungo iloa.

2759
02:01:27,880 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 2: Oh my, he was doing something something.

2760
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 1: I hate to make fun of Tua, but dude, he

2761
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:34,680
Speaker 1: gets like you know how Greg Hardy gets knocked out

2762
02:01:34,680 --> 02:01:36,600
Speaker 1: and it's like an epic knockout, Like they just like

2763
02:01:36,680 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Walker. Yes, Tua when he gets knocked out and

2764
02:01:39,560 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 1: the deer. Am I wrong? When Tua gets knocked out,

2765
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 1: it's it's aggressive, the jazz, the fencing, the gang signs

2766
02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 1: and ship like. He gets busy, He.

2767
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:53,240
Speaker 2: Gets busy with Hey, let's chug some beer here. Grandpa

2768
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:54,000
Speaker 2: would approved this.

2769
02:01:54,040 --> 02:02:06,200
Speaker 14: Right, you know they're thinking racist.

2770
02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,120
Speaker 2: I bet that's the only words that guy speaks.

2771
02:02:08,320 --> 02:02:10,800
Speaker 1: He was trying to choke back racial slurs, and that

2772
02:02:10,880 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 1: was the only thing he could spin out.

2773
02:02:12,960 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 2: Let's choke some beer down under. In fact, let's chug

2774
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 2: six of them at once.

2775
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 1: Do you hear that? Tell which one it is?

2776
02:02:30,240 --> 02:02:33,920
Speaker 2: All these these Twitter drinkers, these.

2777
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 1: These specific islanders are different.

2778
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:37,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say most of these guys are gonna

2779
02:02:37,160 --> 02:02:40,040
Speaker 2: die from these tricks. This guy forever, look at this.

2780
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,480
Speaker 1: Insane Yeah, I mean he's prett diabetic.

2781
02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 2: But wow, wow, do you ever hear of pants beer? Luke?

2782
02:02:53,080 --> 02:02:53,720
Speaker 1: Shower beer?

2783
02:02:53,720 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 2: All right, well there's a pants beer?

2784
02:03:06,240 --> 02:03:07,200
Speaker 1: All right, you've got enough.

2785
02:03:07,280 --> 02:03:10,120
Speaker 2: That's great. The old pants bearer from the top of there.

2786
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why the audioce.

2787
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 1: I hope he is executed by the authorities.

2788
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:16,120
Speaker 2: All Right, we have a couple more people are starting

2789
02:03:16,120 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 2: to get really sick, Luke of these Instagram video pranks.

2790
02:03:19,400 --> 02:03:25,960
Speaker 2: It can go wrong for you.

2791
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Speaker 1: You guys. I want to be my first kiss? What

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Speaker 1: do you want to be my first kiss? Hey, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you much. Have you kissed me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to have a problem with I'm going

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Speaker 1: to enjoy it. Yeah, wow, I I am desperate for

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Speaker 1: a politician to introduce legislation that if someone pulls a

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Speaker 1: like YouTube or ig or TikTok prank on you, that

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Speaker 1: it's legal to assault them. I applaud that assault.

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Speaker 2: I'm it's it is getting out of control, the amount

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Speaker 2: of people.

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Speaker 1: That are watching these idiots get uppercutted by security because

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Speaker 1: you have to imagine you work security place.

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Speaker 2: You only say that because you were a bouncer and

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Speaker 2: an ex marine.

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Speaker 1: But if you have to do what these guys have

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Speaker 1: to deal with with the drunk people and then the

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Speaker 1: demeaning language, and then you get somebody wanted to like

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Speaker 1: fuck with you for like Instagram likes, you deserve to

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Speaker 1: be uppercutted. How do you can chor you can all

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Speaker 1: that shit? Luke would Niger uppercut?

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Speaker 2: Do you do gingerbread houses with TuS?

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Speaker 1: I did one this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Did it look like this?

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Speaker 1: Okay, not exactly like that.

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Speaker 2: I mean historically accurate, but insensitive to say the least.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Christmas is the right occasion for that.

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Speaker 2: That's the share of the week. I hope you uh

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Speaker 2: watched it or saw if you have it all right,

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Speaker 2: there you go. Sorry, sorry, we offended there. Thank you

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Speaker 2: very much. That's that's the show. That's all I got.

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Speaker 2: I have to pee really well then end it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I really like the tension though. That's we're like

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Speaker 2: holding on tight, all right. Do you have anything to

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Speaker 2: say to the people.

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Speaker 1: Let's remind it we are going to do a holiday

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Speaker 1: mail bag. We're gonna do a holiday mail bag episode,

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Speaker 1: So Morningcombat at gmail dot com let's get some fun

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Speaker 1: holiday mail bag questions in their challenges.

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Speaker 2: Normally you got your hands on your own mail bag.

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Speaker 2: But you know, if you can take the time.

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Speaker 1: I know all of you mails have bags out there.

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02:05:25,600 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 1: We need you to write us Morning Coombat at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. Please do that.

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02:05:30,280 --> 02:05:32,560
Speaker 2: Send in your fan subs and dead wrongs to Morningcombat

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02:05:32,560 --> 02:05:35,240
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com as well. Tell Mikey we said hi,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much, Long Island, Luke. You got any

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Speaker 2: final thoughts as we head into the week.

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Speaker 4: Here looking forward to Furiousic this week and near in.

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Speaker 4: Two thousand subscribers on the main card minutes. So if

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Speaker 4: you guys want to help out there, I appreciate.

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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: This guy?

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Speaker 2: No Seeda? Two thousand subscribers on the main card, Men.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, pissing away time with his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: very very you know, lucratively.

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Speaker 2: I support him and Gaff. They're on a nice roll there.

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Speaker 2: For everyone else that helped us on the show today,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much to you out there watching. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for letting us be a part of your lives.

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Speaker 2: When you kill us, take Luke's organs first.

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Speaker 1: That's a good idea you can have.

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Speaker 2: We're out of here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's