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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 1: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 2: I did it because I was foolish. Listen to how

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Speaker 2: to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast dot com, Apple podcast, Stitcher,

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Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 3: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's so Gary, John Annick,

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Speaker 3: Kenny Florian. Here your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: And there is no place that I would rather be.

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Speaker 4: It is Wednesday, fourteen March, Episode one forty seven Anakin

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Speaker 4: Floran Podcast. Great to be back with you, and there

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Speaker 4: he is in all his glory, the early leader of

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Speaker 4: twenty eighteen Father of the Year, and he Ken flow Florian.

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Speaker 4: Good Wednesday morning to your kid. Looking good, little comb

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Speaker 4: over today?

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Speaker 1: It looks good?

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh yeah. The lettuce is getting long, so it

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Speaker 5: has been with it. I had to do something with it.

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Speaker 5: Filming UFC tonight later today, so you know, I had

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Speaker 5: to look. That's right, Yeah, that's right. It's a big day.

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Speaker 4: You go radio in the morning and then TV at

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Speaker 4: night exactly. So, uh so, I know you've been busy.

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Speaker 4: Not too busy to get retweeted by the Girl Scouts

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Speaker 4: of America, but you have been busy, I know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how big was that? That was the biggest

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Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened to me. That was pretty cool.

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Speaker 4: So we all love Samoas, but we all can't get

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Speaker 4: retweeted by the Girl Scouts, Caddy, I mean the guys

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Speaker 4: on the father payroll. For five weeks, He's getting retweeted

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Speaker 4: by the Girl Scouts of America. Winning is all about, right,

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Speaker 4: there is that just like celebrity stuff or like fless celebrity.

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Speaker 1: They appreciated my tweet, is what they did.

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Speaker 4: So uh So I was just in Miami for a

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Speaker 4: couple of nights, so I'm hurting a little bit today.

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Speaker 4: I also went to Connecticut to celebrate the life of

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Speaker 4: Bruce Connell and what a great tribute it was to

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Speaker 4: that absolute legend. So just getting to know his sons

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Speaker 4: a little bit and his daughter Tyler, Trevor and Carly.

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Speaker 4: What an impressive family and legacy I'm gonna be working

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Speaker 4: for those kids someday, if I can stay in the.

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Speaker 1: Business long enough.

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Speaker 4: So it was good to get up there for a

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Speaker 4: few days and then sort of unwind in Miami right

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Speaker 4: back at it today. We're hoping to talk to a

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Speaker 4: couple of UFC champions. We'll see how it goes. But TJ.

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Speaker 4: Dillashaw Amanda Noonez both champions at one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: five pounds, both on standby. Ray long goes all fired up.

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Speaker 4: You know, when he calls me on show day, he's

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Speaker 4: got something to talk about. He's like, what are we

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Speaker 4: talking about today? So whatever you want, sir, whatever you want,

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Speaker 4: So we'll talk to Long ago. I want to talk

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Speaker 4: about Nick Newell a little bit today, Kenny. Before we

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Speaker 4: get there, though, I just want to hit on a

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Speaker 4: few UFC items because last week we had ninety minutes

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Speaker 4: out of UFC two twenty two, and we tried to

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Speaker 4: do it justice. But one name we didn't talk about

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Speaker 4: T City and Chris Cyborg and everybody else, but we

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Speaker 4: didn't talk about this result in the context of Frankie

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Speaker 4: Edgar's career and what this loss does or doesn't do

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Speaker 4: to his legacy, And maybe it's less about this obvious

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Speaker 4: has signs there of slowing down, he's thirty six years

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Speaker 1: At the very least, it certainly does.

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Speaker 5: But you know, for Frankie, this is a guy that

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Speaker 1: You look at everything he's done.

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Speaker 5: He's a champion and one hundred and fifty five pounds,

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Speaker 5: And I think some of those losses that he had

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Speaker 1: The only people he lost to was Aldo really at

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Speaker 5: Class, and then this last fight against Ortega, a fight

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Speaker 5: Frankie didn't have to take it. He could have waited

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Speaker 1: He didn't do that.

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Speaker 5: A it's amazing to see Frankie take this fight after

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Speaker 5: what doesn't matter. Yes, I'm close to this title shot,

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Speaker 5: It was a mistake, And these things happen in this game.

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Speaker 5: When you're fighting as many hours as he has in

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Speaker 4: Of the fight time, right, he's number one all time

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Speaker 5: Ken Okay, that's insane, all right, So mistakes are going

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Speaker 5: you know, give him a big fight. How about him

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Speaker 5: fighting someone like a dominant cruise. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a super fight.

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Speaker 5: That's a fight people have been talking out for a

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Speaker 4: There are a lot of options for Frankie Edgar, and

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Speaker 4: So let's stay active the show money doesn't hurt. He's

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Speaker 4: My informed speculation says it's not because he couldn't make

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Speaker 4: the big name fight that Frankie Edgar represents to them.

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Speaker 4: So I wouldn't be surprised to see Frankie Edgar's next movie.

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Speaker 4: There sounds like for you the Cruz Edgar fight would

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Speaker 5: Out, absolutely, and I think you know for him, it's

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Speaker 5: not that he can't compete at forty five. Obviously, the

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Speaker 5: guy's been doing tremendously well. He's a former champion out

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Speaker 5: He's gonna have to fight some tough fights, and he

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Speaker 1: Back in there.

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Speaker 5: I think at thirty five he could fight one, potentially

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: That's a name that's coming down from fifty five to

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Speaker 4: Ultimately, my prediction would be that his next fight is

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Speaker 1: I think I would like to see him go to

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Speaker 4: But again, real quick, Kenny, guys, at forty five, he

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Speaker 1: So some sort of scenario would aligned there.

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Speaker 4: Darren Elkin seems to be the only guy out there,

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Speaker 4: and he might even have a fight on the books.

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Speaker 4: But who Frankie hasn't fought that would have some value,

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Speaker 4: and that value comes in the form of Elkins's six

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Speaker 1: So there are some names at forty five.

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Speaker 4: I'd love to see him fight Ricardo Lamas, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's a fight that we have not seen, that has

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Speaker 4: best guess is you see Frankie Edgar versus Ricardo Lamas

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Speaker 4: at featherweight. But if Frankie is truly driven by that

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Speaker 4: that thirty five pound gold, I think I think now

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Speaker 4: even this, even though this isn't the way I wanted

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Speaker 4: to thirty five trying to become a three division champion.

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Speaker 4: That's not going to happen, But I still think it

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Speaker 4: might be the time. The time might be now with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think.

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Speaker 4: So Luke Rockhole Polo Blue, we didn't touch on that.

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Speaker 4: King spot spicy crispy Chicken sandwich. Kenny, have you have

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Speaker 4: you watched this Burger King spot. I've watched it probably

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Speaker 4: All I'm saying is that as a salesman, as a pitchman, Kenny,

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Speaker 1: I think that's pretty damn cool. Man. We've come a

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Speaker 5: And and for Connor, uh, he continues to make money

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Speaker 4: And I know you you can't even get the name

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Speaker 4: But sham on McDonald's too. I know this isn't your genre, Camflow, Okay.

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Speaker 4: His name is Connor McGregor, right, McDonald's mac junior. I

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he'll get the chance to do that,

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you got you got a two o

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Speaker 1: I'm there be a chant, I'm there be a chance.

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Speaker 5: What I gotta say is this is he absolutely he's

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Speaker 1: Here's the situation for him and for the UFC. All Right.

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Speaker 5: It's a tricky one because, yes, can Nate Diez go

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Speaker 5: Now if Natiez goes and fight someone else, right, if

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, if you know you have

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Speaker 4: Right, And of course all indications are that promotionally they're

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if it's about Rashad wanting to

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Speaker 4: And he certainly will have a willing trade partner. And

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Speaker 4: Sergio Pettis, perhaps heavyweights Alas Drove, Raymond Curtis Blades.

436
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Speaker 1: So that is UFC two twenty five coming up June ninth.

437
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Speaker 4: Of course the next pay per view, as we will

438
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Speaker 4: talk about over these next several weeks flow UFC two

439
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 4: twenty three. I'm smiling, Yes, I'm smiling. If you get

440
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Speaker 4: video beat Normago Matov Tony Ferguson. I should probably say

441
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Speaker 4: Tony's name first, but I bring it up to you

442
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Speaker 4: today in the context of nobody that I respect picking

443
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Speaker 4: Tony Ferguson right now to win the fight. And I

444
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 4: don't even have to ask your ass right now to

445
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 4: know that you're going to pick up Ebner Mago Matov

446
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,679
Speaker 4: to win this fight. He's twenty five, and oh, I

447
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 4: understand he's never lost around in training or sporing. But

448
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,440
Speaker 4: my argument on the other side, and again I'm calling

449
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Speaker 4: the fight. I'm not picking it is that Tony Ferguson

450
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Speaker 4: on paper, to me, is the most accomplished one hundred

451
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Speaker 4: and fifty five pound fighter in UFC history, certainly in

452
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Speaker 4: the modern era, to have reeled off ten consecutive wins,

453
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Speaker 4: and by the way, one of them was against Hafeyel

454
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Speaker 4: dos Anjos in Mexico City at altitude. If I'm not mistaken,

455
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 4: you know, I think people lose sight of what Tony

456
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Speaker 4: Ferguson has done and instead want to focus on wayward

457
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Speaker 4: moments in the fight against Landovnada right on short notice

458
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Speaker 4: and say, oh, I don't know. I mean, I understand

459
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Speaker 4: what he is up against. I understand why the experts

460
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Speaker 4: seem to all be falling on one side of this.

461
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Speaker 4: But can we at least acknowledge what Tony Ferguson has

462
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Speaker 4: been and why you'd be foolish to go to the window,

463
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Speaker 4: in my opinion and place a big against.

464
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Speaker 1: You make some tremendous points. Tony Ferguson is a winner.

465
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Speaker 5: He's done it in division, in a division which has

466
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Speaker 5: been the most competitive in the UFC since the very beginning.

467
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Speaker 1: Probably Ferguson. He has a lot of weapons.

468
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 5: He has a lot of tools, He has knockout power,

469
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,479
Speaker 5: he has a tremendous clinch. He knows how to submit

470
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 5: you on the ground. This guy comes in tremendous shape.

471
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 5: You are never gonna see a Tony Ferguson that is

472
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Speaker 5: tired during a fight.

473
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Speaker 1: He will push the pace on you.

474
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Speaker 7: Uh.

475
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Speaker 5: He comes from a wrestling background. He's very creative as

476
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Speaker 5: a fighter. He's been extremely consistent in this division, and yeah,

477
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Speaker 5: can he win the fight.

478
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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

479
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Speaker 5: I think when Tony Ferguson is able to create chaos

480
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,199
Speaker 5: uh in the octagon, that's when he's at his best.

481
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 5: And I think that's precisely what he needs to do

482
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 5: against someone like Habib Normaga Madoff. Now, you could talk

483
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 5: about Hibi and the fact that you know he is

484
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 5: this absolute beast who gets you on the ground. He

485
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 5: uses the ground and pound and is relentless with it.

486
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 5: He doesn't take any positional risks. Okay, he's all about position.

487
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 5: He's not the most devastating striker, he's not the most

488
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Speaker 5: devastating submission artist in the world, but what he does

489
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 5: positionally is absolutely tremendous. He will get to a half

490
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 5: guard and beat the living hell out of you. He

491
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 5: will get you down to the mat no matter what

492
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Speaker 5: without taking much damage on the feet. And he's not

493
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Speaker 5: gonna lose position. He's not gonna let you get back

494
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Speaker 5: to your feet, and if you do, you're only there

495
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 5: for like a couple seconds until you're taking a trip

496
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Speaker 5: back right down to the canvas.

497
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

498
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Speaker 5: So for Hibib, he just doesn't take a whole lot

499
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 5: of risks with his game. That's what makes him so great.

500
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 5: He knows exactly what makes him so tough as a fighter,

501
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 5: and he sticks to it. He's not out there trying

502
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 5: to do something crazy on the feet, and he shouldn't.

503
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Speaker 5: For Tony Ferguson, he's all about scrambles, and we have

504
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Speaker 5: a guy in Habib who's all about position. So we

505
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 5: have an amazing contrast of styles here. If Ferguson is

506
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Speaker 5: able to consistently create these scrambles and find a way

507
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: to get his arms around Habib's neck or you know,

508
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 5: a leg or something, he might be able to get

509
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 5: this upset win. But when you get a guy in

510
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 5: Habib who has been so consistent, a guy who does

511
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 5: not take these risks positionally on the mat He gets

512
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 5: you to tire out, he gets you to do all

513
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 5: the work. So Habib is gonna be a tough out

514
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 5: for anybody, and everybody who's been saying, hey, listen, you

515
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: know this is a guy who hasn't lost around in training.

516
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 5: I mean, how do you bet against that guy? That's

517
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 5: the problem. And you know, I have a buddy of

518
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 5: mine who is a very very high level accomplished Brazilian

519
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 5: jiu jitsu competitor, Brazilian black belt, and he had the

520
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 5: opportunity to train with Habib, and I thought that he'd

521
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 5: at least be able to catch him or whatever, and

522
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 5: he was not able to catch him. He said, he

523
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 5: really couldn't get that close. He said, Habib just was

524
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 5: able to just keep position and didn't take a whole

525
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 5: lot of risk. But he just wasn't able to get around.

526
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Speaker 5: The guy just so damn strong, he wasn't able to

527
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 5: do anything to him. You're talking about a world class

528
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 5: percent in judsu black boat.

529
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Speaker 4: Let me stop you right there, ken Flow, because I

530
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 4: don't want to keep this man on hold any longer.

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Speaker 4: Back to that topic in a second, but joining us

532
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Speaker 4: now on the guest line, another guy who historically I

533
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 4: think doesn't get the credit for being the all time

534
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Speaker 4: great that I perceive him to be. Two time current

535
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Speaker 4: undisputed UFC vandam wewaight Champion of the World. TJ Dillashaw

536
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Speaker 4: is with us. TJ appreciate you breaking off a few

537
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 4: minutes for us today. Man, how are you?

538
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Speaker 8: Oh? Of course, thanks, John, I really appreciate it. Can

539
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Speaker 8: he keep going all though I'm in no rush?

540
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Speaker 4: Oh, well, we appreciate that. No, I taken notes. I'm

541
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 4: sure before you place your two twenty three bets. But

542
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 4: so so Ken flows a father about five weeks here.

543
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 4: How's fatherhood been for you? You're not all that long

544
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 4: into it?

545
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Speaker 8: I guess right, No, I'm eleven weeks in. It's amazing.

546
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Speaker 8: It's nothing like it. It's a whole nother job, and

547
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 8: I love it. You know, it's crazy. It's awesome, everything

548
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 8: that I've dreamed of. But a ton of work coming

549
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 8: with opening our new gym, training and getting everything going.

550
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 8: It's been it's been a lot to handle, but it's

551
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 8: been a great problem.

552
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Speaker 1: Well, it's cool to hear.

553
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 4: So four months have now passed since, of course, we

554
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 4: saw you knock out Cody Garbrandt. It was a Madison

555
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 4: Square Garden back in November, I called it the biggest

556
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: singular win of twenty seventeen. Even if you weren't everyone's

557
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: consensus fighter of the year, you were in that discussion,

558
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: I felt like this was the biggest singular win because

559
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Speaker 4: you kind of took out an entire team and the process.

560
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Speaker 4: Can you just take us back there for a minute

561
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: or so and tell us what it was like to

562
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Speaker 4: not just get that win, but with all of the

563
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 4: heat and all of the weight on that matchup to

564
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: come through the way you did, it just felt like

565
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 4: a big fuck you to a lot of people.

566
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, pretty much exactly, you know. I mean you saw

567
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 8: what happened after the fight when he started standing up

568
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 8: and I'm just yelling in his face, looking like a

569
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 8: complete psycho. I mean, I was releasing all that all that. Yeah,

570
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 8: pretty much a whole year of a frustration, actually a

571
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 8: lot longer than that. I mean, ever since I lost

572
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 8: that fight, the cruise that I never felt like I lost.

573
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 8: I was trying to get that fight back and then

574
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Speaker 8: get my belt back, as well as having to deal

575
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Speaker 8: with all team off mail and all the ridiculous antics. Yeah. Man,

576
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 8: it was just a lot of frustration. But it was

577
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 8: a great, great feeling, you know, knowing that I'm the

578
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 8: best in the world and just continuing to push and

579
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 8: fighting the number one contenders along the way and beating

580
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 8: these top guys and just knowing where I should be at.

581
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Speaker 8: I think that's maybe more of the where the frustration

582
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 8: was coming from, and than those other guys just added

583
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 8: to it, you know, and then it was a big

584
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 8: fuck you do the whole team. I even had to

585
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 8: yell at their corner on the way back afterwards because

586
00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 8: they were giving me shit, not all the way through

587
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 8: the whole camp, through through the fight, through through so much,

588
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 8: you know. I mean, those are those are all guys

589
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 8: that I called really good friends at one point in time,

590
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 8: and for them to flip the script and to uh,

591
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 8: to get on me like that was it was real satisfying.

592
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 8: You kind of throw it back in the face.

593
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 4: No, I'm sure, and I know that the people who

594
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 4: really know you were just genuinely happy for you, because

595
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: there's a good egg in there sometimes despite what the

596
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 4: perception out there is. So how soon do you how

597
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 4: soon do you watch a fight like that back looking

598
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: for technical improvements? I mean, i'd imagine there was more

599
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 4: in that fight that you liked than you didn't. But

600
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: I got to think there are some things you saw

601
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: that that you'd like to shore up a little bit.

602
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely, I mean kind of kind of right away

603
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 8: as soon as they got back into town, Dwayne Zzodi

604
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 8: had me back in there watching watching that fight as

605
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 8: well as looking at possible opponent future opponents. I mean,

606
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 8: the guy didn't stop, you know, always looking to get

607
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 8: better and and there's not really a time off even

608
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 8: when you're injured. He got me in they're watching tape

609
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 8: and doing the right things. But getting back at it

610
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 8: and watching that fight, there's definitely some things that I

611
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 8: needed to tighten up, some things that could have taken

612
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 8: advantage more of some openings I've seen that I didn't

613
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 8: react on at the right time. Yeah, So instantly getting

614
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 8: back and watching watching tape, really.

615
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 5: You know, TJ to go back to what Annik was

616
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 5: talking about with you screaming in Cody's face. I think

617
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 5: that's that's like one of the most memorable experiences that

618
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: I've had watching a UFC fight.

619
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Speaker 1: That is like singe into my memory.

620
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 5: For whatever reason, that's gonna go down as like an

621
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 5: iconic picture that picture is.

622
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Speaker 1: Just absolutely sick.

623
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Speaker 5: But anyways, TJ, so at one hundred and thirty five pounds,

624
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 5: if you're not able, we're going to talk about the

625
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: Demetrius Johnson thing. But if you're not able to get

626
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 5: that fight, what fight at one hundred and thirty five

627
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 5: pounds makes a lot of sense? Because you look at

628
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 5: this Cody fight and I know you're kind of upset

629
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 5: about it in a lot of ways because you had

630
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 5: to wait, right, they didn't give you that immediate rematch

631
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: against Domina Cruz and obviously you won that fight pretty

632
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 5: quickly by knockout. So but you can argue that might

633
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 5: be the most profitable fight for you in some ways

634
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 5: because you guys, you guys know how to hype a fight.

635
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: But there's that Dominic Cruz fight out there as well.

636
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 5: For you, what's the fight that makes the most sense

637
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 5: in the bands White division?

638
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 8: You know, I guess, I guess you're kind of hit

639
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 8: the nail on the head, is that, you know, I

640
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 8: don't think Cody would deserve a rematch, you know, I

641
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 8: don't think he would. I mean, you know, going through

642
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 8: and for me, fighting those number one continues to get

643
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 8: back to or is that losing a split decision loss

644
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 8: with having some defenses behind me win that belt. I mean,

645
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 8: the guy had a good fight against all my cruz

646
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 8: but other than that, he's never defended his belts. He

647
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 8: hasn't find anybody else in the top five, you know,

648
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 8: so it's not like he deserved. But yes, with all

649
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 8: that drama, all that builds up, I do think he's

650
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 8: the best fight for me. I went thirty five and

651
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 8: I got the guy's number, you know, so why not

652
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 8: why not take him out again and get paid handsomely

653
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 8: for it? You know. But what I really want to do,

654
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 8: like you, like you said, is that I'm looking for

655
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: that Johnson fight. For the fact that my legacy, for

656
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 8: the fact that being the best town of town fighter

657
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 8: in the world, that I believe that I am, you know,

658
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 8: know that I want to get out there and prove it.

659
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Speaker 8: So that's that's something I got my my my eyes

660
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 8: set on. But yeah, Cody does seem like a great,

661
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 8: a great matchup to come back to. There's people that they, uh,

662
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 8: I want to see that fight too.

663
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: You know.

664
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Speaker 8: He's very loud and brash and makes a lot of tingers,

665
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 8: So yeah, he would be the most profitable profitable fight

666
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 8: for me. Dona Cruz two hasn't fought since he's lost

667
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 8: his belt either. You know, he's been injured, so that's

668
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 8: one where he's kind of out and very relevant either.

669
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 5: And Tjo what what as far as you know fighting DJ,

670
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 5: I know you said you wanted to go down one

671
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five pounds. Is that still the case

672
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 5: you would go to his division to fight him?

673
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Speaker 8: Absolutely? Yeah, I can make the weight. I'm not. I'm not.

674
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 8: I'm a small one thirty five pounder. You know, I've

675
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 8: already continued to so I don't know what's going on.

676
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 8: I'm kind of in the right now, so it's kind

677
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 8: of helped my weight neutral. I'm the leanest I've ever

678
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 8: been walking around outside of camp, not getting ready for

679
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 8: a fight, you know, continuing to keep my weight in

680
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 8: in reachable one twenty five position. As long as this

681
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 8: fight happens, you know, because I've talked to Michris Johnson,

682
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 8: he wants this fight to happen. I want this fight

683
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 8: to happen. We both know when we want it to happen.

684
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 8: And now it's just all about the UC getting their

685
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 8: lined up and getting done. Every fan I hear on

686
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 8: social media where in person wants this fight to happen.

687
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 8: I mean, for me, it's the most highly touted fight

688
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 8: for this year. It just doesn't make sense. Wh I

689
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 8: haven't already been lined up yet. I don't know if

690
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 8: it's because you got some injuries. He's in with still

691
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 8: as well and myself getting healthy, but uh it's uh yeah, man,

692
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 8: I mean that's I would go to one twenty five,

693
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 8: So I feel doesn't make the most sense. If I

694
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 8: want to be known as the best power for pound fighter,

695
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 8: then I can't have him come up and beat him

696
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 8: at my weight class and then the excuse be, oh

697
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 8: well I had to go up a wait to fight you.

698
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 8: I'm still better at twenty five.

699
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: What's been up?

700
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 8: I would I would go ahead?

701
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 5: No, sorry, I sorry? What's been the hold up? Is

702
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 5: it about money? Is it about like the timing of

703
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 5: the fight? What has been the hold up? Because it

704
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 5: seems like the fight was close to happening. We heard

705
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 5: that it was it was gonna get signed and then

706
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 5: it didn't. What has been one of the hurdles?

707
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 8: I really can't couldn't tell you, you know, Yeah, it

708
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 8: was about the design We're going to try to fight

709
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 8: in April, but then Dutis had to go and get

710
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 8: a shoulder looked at and got surgery on his label

711
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 8: or his rotator cuff for me and I believe, and

712
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 8: so that postponed it. You know, which would have postponed

713
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 8: it to fighting in July. He's thinking and which will

714
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 8: will Which would I believe would work out perfect? You know,

715
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 8: we jump on that Steepe Cormier card. It's the Champers

716
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 8: champ card. It's a kind of a perfect story as

717
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 8: well as it's the perfect timing for me right now too.

718
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 8: I mean I have great opponents. I went thirty five,

719
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 8: but no one stands out to me as the number

720
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 8: one contender. You know, like I said, Cody doesn't deserve

721
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 8: the instant rematch. Crews has a once since he lost

722
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 8: his belt. You got Jimmy Rivera and Marta Marias fighting,

723
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 8: which are up there. Since I'm looking for a fight

724
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 8: to get up there. So I alsoel like there's number

725
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 8: one continue with all those guys, and it's a it's

726
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 8: a perfect time for me to fight a Mitris. I

727
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 8: don't understand why it's not lined up already.

728
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: You have see pandam Way, Champee j Dillashaw with us

729
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 4: here on the Anak and Florian podcast. So obviously you're

730
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: staying lean, but as the weeks continue to tick off

731
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 4: the calendar, I gotta think at some point, you know,

732
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: you have a be all end type date if to

733
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: try to fight in July, I mean, I guess we're

734
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: sitting here in March, but at some point, right, I mean,

735
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: you got to get a fight right.

736
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Speaker 6: On.

737
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Speaker 8: Absolutely. I mean I've been dealing with some injuries too.

738
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 8: I've been trying to keep quiet, but when they wanted

739
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 8: me to take that short notice three week fight against

740
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 8: Cody on the Edgar and or take a card, I

741
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 8: wasn't able to take it at some injuries I've been

742
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 8: dealing with, so getting healthy was was the first and foremost.

743
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 8: I was trying to keep it all quiet, but it's

744
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 8: kind of hard when you're getting asked to fight on

745
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 8: short notice. But yes, I definitely need to get that fight.

746
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 8: I need to get a fight actually, you know. So yeah,

747
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 8: I mean that's kind of the time frame I'm looking

748
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 8: at to be healthy, you get back into camp and

749
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 8: to get going. So you know, that's why that's why

750
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 8: I'm not doing too much, Like I said, I'm walking

751
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 8: around lean, but I'm not dropping weight. You know, I'm

752
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 8: just being healthy. I'm staying active as active as I

753
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 8: can and being healthy. And if it is a call

754
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 8: to go twenty five as I can do, to call

755
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 8: the stay in a way class, I'm more than ready

756
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 8: to do that as well too. So just one of

757
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 8: those things that just keep myself writing me.

758
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: And by the way, in terms of that whole UFC

759
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 4: two to twenty two stuff, we thought you handled that

760
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: situation perfectly. We said on these airwaves. It made absolutely

761
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 4: no sense for you to step up on short notice

762
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: and face Cody Garbrandt given the circumstances that we've outlined earlier.

763
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 4: So I thought you handled that well. But in terms

764
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: of your legacy and your perception from MMA fans, right

765
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 4: we could be sitting here talking about a guy who's

766
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 4: been the UFC Bandamweight Champion for four and a half years,

767
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 4: and I know, unfortunately for your sake, that's not the narrative,

768
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: but just two split decision losses over the last five

769
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: plus years. You're on the pound for pound list, you're

770
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 4: certainly in the top ten, but I know you want

771
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,959
Speaker 4: to be the number one guy.

772
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: How do you feel like the perception is of TJ.

773
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: Dillashaw in terms of fans and experts and everything that

774
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: your career is held up to this point.

775
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 8: Other there's always going to be love and hate, you know,

776
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 8: no matter what, even if you're trying to handle things

777
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 8: everything perfectly. But I think what it comes down to

778
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 8: is just being true to myself, you know. And I

779
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 8: feel like that's finally coming across, you know, with the

780
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 8: Who Ultimate Fighter, with the build up of this fight,

781
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 8: the way I've acted after in before the fight, just

782
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 8: coming across as that, you know. I mean, I guess

783
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 8: I could be a little more brash and talk a

784
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 8: little more crap, but it would feel forced, you know.

785
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 8: I mean, I won't talk about the rest of the world,

786
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 8: you know, I believe that I'll tell you how confident

787
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 8: I am and how hard I train and how aggressive

788
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 8: I am. Yeah, that's all very true, and that's how

789
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 8: I'm gonna act. So I feel like that's all come

790
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 8: across pretty well. But yeah, you got your new parents

791
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 8: all the time as well, So I mean, I loved

792
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 8: and I'm hate and that's a great thing because they

793
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 8: don't want to watch me either way.

794
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: Well, and I think you're certainly respected, certainly by the

795
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: fellow fighters that have fought you and all of the

796
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 4: analysts and people in the space.

797
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: He is UFC Bandawy Champ. TJ.

798
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: Dillashaw, of course, still chasing down that super fight with

799
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: Demetrius Johnson. We hope it happens for you, ma'am. We

800
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: hope the payday comes in July as well. We know

801
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 4: you've been one of the best in any division for

802
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: six plus years now. Thank you for carving out a

803
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 4: few minutes for us, man, and we will see you

804
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 4: hopefully this summer in Vegas.

805
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 8: But absolutely good, good talking you guys.

806
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: All right there. He is TJ. Dillashaw with us on

807
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: the Anak and Florian podcast.

808
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: So it sounds like the Cody Garbrand fight still has

809
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 4: some appeal at thirty five. The Dominant Cruise fight maybe

810
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 4: to a lesser extent, even though he would have the

811
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 4: opportunity to avenge a split decision loss. But the fight

812
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 4: is TJDJ and you know Dana White's on board and

813
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 4: wants to make the fight. So hopefully whatever hurdles remain

814
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 4: can be leaf frogged and we can get this thing

815
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: on paper, because to me, it is so compelling, and

816
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 4: I like the fact that TJ Kenny doesn't necessarily want

817
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: to do it at thirty five. I think there's the

818
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: appeal for him and not just being a two division champion,

819
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 4: but proven that he's the one making the sacrifice before

820
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: getting his hands on that belt too.

821
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 5: It shows how confide and TJ is as well to say,

822
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 5: you know what, yeah, I'll go down one hundred and

823
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 5: twenty five pounds.

824
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: No doesn't matter to me.

825
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: And you know, we saw DJ again when he was

826
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 5: competing at one hundred and thirty five pounds, just you know,

827
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 5: it's tough for him at his height to deal with

828
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 5: those guys. TJ has been walking around a lot lighter,

829
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 5: and there's no question that for TJ, he sees at

830
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 5: a tremendous opportunity to go out there and fight a

831
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 5: guy in Demitrius Johnson, who many believe is the greatest

832
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 5: fighter that we've ever seen in the yachtagon, certainly has

833
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 5: all the skills, and TJ is one of the few

834
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: guys that can actually compete with him skill for skill.

835
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: He has knockout power as well.

836
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 5: He has that wrestling background and when he strikes, I

837
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: mean the angles that he hits.

838
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: He's he's been looking like a professional kickboxer for a

839
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 1: very long time.

840
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: And the way that he's just has jailed as a fighter,

841
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 5: the confidence that he has now, that is absolutely a

842
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: super fight. That's the fight that I want to see.

843
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 5: That's the one that I've been waiting for. And hopefully

844
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 5: it does happen.

845
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see July seven.

846
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 4: Just text Daniel Cormier, text me just July seven, like

847
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 4: that's all he'll read. It is July seven, UFC two

848
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 4: to twenty six in Vegas. Hopefully it gets TJ versus

849
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 4: dj R. We're gonna spin this thing forward to UFC London.

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Speaker 3: It's the main Event challenge and the.

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Speaker 1: Time is most definitely.

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Speaker 9: Flori, Hi Fish, fine, how do you everything?

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Speaker 1: Both?

878
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: We'll to win the main event challenge to John Hennick

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00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: and Kenny Florian podcast.

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00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: And we will get back to Kabib and Tony Kenflow.

881
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: You know I don't like cutting you off, but uh

882
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 4: more on that coming up later in the show.

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00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: Let's update the standings though, shall we know?

884
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: Picks last week obviously with no live UFC event, so

885
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 4: Team Annik leed it twenty seven to twenty one. Going

886
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: into UFC two twenty two, you went head to head

887
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: with listener Josh Penland three big points just on the

888
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 4: Cyborg fight alone for Team Florian, so you had the

889
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: the round, the method, all of that stuff right. You

890
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: also had Brian t City or Tega two points there

891
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 4: for the underdog special, but Josh was right there with

892
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 4: you most of the other picks, so you win the week,

893
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 4: but seven to six the margin, Team Annik retains the

894
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: overall lead thirty three to twenty eight. The flow, though

895
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Speaker 4: continues to chip away, So thirty three twenty eight for

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Speaker 4: the good guys and joining us to make picks for

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Speaker 4: UFC London today, you know.

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Speaker 1: Full disclosure, short notice.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Ebara on Twitter you can find him at jell

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Speaker 4: o fool Anthony, How are you man?

901
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 8: Good?

902
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: How you guys doing? Oh you look.

903
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: Like a guy want to hang out with We got

904
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Speaker 4: a picture of him and drinking something around alcoholic beverage.

905
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Speaker 4: So we had a London local set to make picks

906
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Speaker 4: today he had to back out, so Tony to the rescue.

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00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: Can people even call you Tony? Anthony? Is that okay?

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00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 8: Yeah?

909
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 9: I've been called much worse.

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00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: Okay. I get the sense that maybe let's stick with it. Well, yeah,

911
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: we'll go with Anthony.

912
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 4: The rest of Anthony did he did you watch Ken

913
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 4: Flow fight back in the day or do you not

914
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 4: go go back that far?

915
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 8: Now?

916
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 9: I'll be honest. I started about twenty eleven, twenty twelve,

917
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 9: but I catch almost every show.

918
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: See, isn't that amazing? Ken Flow?

919
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 4: You are so fucking old that guys you just started

920
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: watching this sport a few years ago, have no idea

921
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: how they listen to podcas. I love it all right,

922
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 4: So Anthony, let's get to some picks here. So first

923
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 4: out of the shoot, good rematch here, at least on paper.

924
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 4: Jimmy Manawa Yan Blahovic Wellhovich plus one seventy five right now,

925
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 4: Mana with a minus two fifteen favorite. So the first meeting,

926
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Speaker 4: it was April twenty fifteen in Poland, goes to Manawa

927
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Speaker 4: by unanimous decision, his only pro win not by knockout.

928
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 4: Since that fight, Jimmy two and two Bohovich three and three.

929
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Speaker 4: He has won two in a row, though, Anthony, who

930
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 4: do you like here, Jimmy Manowa or the underdog Jan Blahovich?

931
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Speaker 9: Well, well, Hoovich is three and his last seven of fights,

932
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Speaker 9: and I think this is a big step up in competition.

933
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Speaker 9: He's gotta on a slate and other than mission winover

934
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Speaker 9: Devin Clark, who isn't even ranked, I really think Jimmy

935
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 9: Manlan was gonna be able to take it. As said,

936
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Speaker 9: a rematch, this is a rematcheen. I think Jimmy striking

937
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 9: has gotten better and more precise, so I'm gonna take

938
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Speaker 9: the favorite in this one, Jimmy probably by knockout and Kenny.

939
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Speaker 4: Jimmy Manuell also talking about only having a couple of

940
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 4: years left in the sport, right, so I think he

941
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 4: really understands what is at stake here and what he

942
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Speaker 4: needs to do to make one final run to get

943
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Speaker 4: his first UFC title. Crack, Jimmy Manawall here about a

944
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Speaker 4: two to one favorite flow?

945
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Speaker 1: What do you think? Well, I think he still is motivated.

946
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't have a whole lot of years left

947
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 5: and at two hundred and five pounds, I mean the

948
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 5: division as far as him being able to get that shot.

949
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Speaker 5: He knows the time is now, so I think he

950
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 5: is motivated. I think he's the more technical striker, and

951
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 5: he certainly hits harder.

952
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: I got to go with manual.

953
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 4: Time has absolutely got to be now, And I know

954
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: it's a tricky spot for a lot of these light

955
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 4: heavyweight contenders and the heavyweight contenders to a lesser extent,

956
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 4: but of course they're belt is idle at least right

957
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 4: now as Daniel Cormier moves up to challenge Stepe Meo

958
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 4: Chicch this summer our main event, and speaking of sort of,

959
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 4: some of the division hold ups here could affect these

960
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: guys potentially, but this main event I would think at

961
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: least produces a contender that is going to be on

962
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Speaker 4: the short list here towards the end of twenty eighteen.

963
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 4: So for Brice Overdoon minus two fifteen, Alexander Volkov plus

964
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 4: one seventy five. Volkov the lesser known guy, but you

965
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 4: do your homework on him, you understand why he's getting

966
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: this opportunity. Top five in the world, undefeated in the UFC,

967
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: he's won five straight, a lot of experienced thirty five

968
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 4: pro fights, He's won twenty nine of them skilled fighter,

969
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 4: perhaps some value on him at plus one seventy five.

970
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Speaker 4: The question is Anthony, does he have enough right now

971
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 4: to beat the former champion Vacavallo for Breeci overdue.

972
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 10: You know, I don't think so. His last three wins

973
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 10: were Stepan stru by Koe and a decision for Renainst

974
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 10: and Timoky Jhonson. I'm not super impressed with his last

975
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 10: three wins, especially since true just Aganlandre last year. He's

976
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 10: just not a striker, but Redoom hasn't been knocked out

977
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 10: since two thousand and eight.

978
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 9: Other than is not got lost to Steepens, but.

979
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 10: He's hungry the company man. Now, as you say, I

980
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 10: think he watch that beat back and his experience is

981
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 10: going to be too much for Volkoff. So I'm taking

982
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 10: due by decision. Bokov's got pretty decent taking the defense all.

983
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: Right for du him over twenty five minutes the play

984
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: for Anthony ken flow. Who's the picks to click in

985
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 4: the main event, and we'll need that method of victory

986
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 4: in the round.

987
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 5: I think Volkov has a tremendous amount of potential. I

988
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: just think that he gets hit way too much. Really

989
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 5: need to improve his defense and if the fight hits

990
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 5: the mat, and we know that ver Doom will submit

991
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: any heavyweight in the world. Right now, I think ver

992
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,959
Speaker 5: Doom he has been extremely active as of late.

993
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: That could be a blessing and a curse.

994
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 5: You know, he's a little bit older now, doing camp

995
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: after camp after camp. It can be tough on your body. However,

996
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 5: I gotta go with Ferbusia Verduam, the former champ. I

997
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 5: think he gets it done.

998
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: Here, and how does he get it done?

999
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: Kim, Let's go with a third round TKO.

1000
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: TKO for Fabricio overdom and I'm glad you hit on

1001
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 4: the activity thing because that's a big storyline for me

1002
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 4: coming in.

1003
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: Is does that work to his benefit or not? I

1004
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: think it does.

1005
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: I think it actually helps him to have been this

1006
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 4: active and to have dealt with some weird circumstances with

1007
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 4: the Walt Harris late entry and everything else. So I

1008
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 4: think you get a prime for Doom against Volcov this weekend.

1009
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: We'll see how it plays out. Main card five pm

1010
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 4: Eastern on UFC Fight Pass and a quick pick here

1011
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 4: on the way out Anthony bantam Way fight Tom Ducane,

1012
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 4: what Terry on where so you get extra points here,

1013
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 4: at least in our scoring system if you back where

1014
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: he is plus two hundred, Tom Dukane, what minus two sixty?

1015
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: Anthony? Which way you going?

1016
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 9: I'm gonna take the fire Kid, Tom Duke and one.

1017
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 9: I think he's got a super bright.

1018
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 8: Future ahead of him.

1019
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: Tom Dukine, wha the fire kid can flow? Which way

1020
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 4: you're going? I'm gonna go with Duke and Wall.

1021
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: I think he learned a lot in his last fight,

1022
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna go with Duke and One.

1023
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: All right, Anthony Ebara, appreciate you listening and more importantly

1024
00:45:59,080 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 4: for stepping up today.

1025
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 1: By we'll have you back for a pay per view

1026
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: later this year. Thank you man.

1027
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 10: Thanks Ellis.

1028
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 4: I just want to say on Terry on Ware, by

1029
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: the way, seventeen and seven overall, never been knocked out

1030
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 4: twenty four pro fights, oh and two in the UFC,

1031
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 4: but his losses to the Sugar Show Sean O'Malley and

1032
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: Cody Stamen both on points. I love seeing guys in

1033
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 4: a must win right, and you won't hear us talk

1034
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 4: about must wins a lot on the broadcast. But for

1035
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 4: Terry on Ware, if you follow UFC comings and goings,

1036
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: this is a must win scenario for him. Oh and

1037
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: two in the UFC fighting Tom Dukane while also in

1038
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: a big spot for him coming off the lost to

1039
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: Cody Stain and that was back in October. I'm excited

1040
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 4: to see what guys can do when they're put in

1041
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 4: this position back up against the proverbial wall. Terry and

1042
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: Ware's got a lot of skills on the feet and

1043
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 4: I think he should get a chance to use them

1044
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 4: here against Tom Ducaine was so big fight there among

1045
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: several that you can see on fight Pass this weekend,

1046
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 4: and yeah, duk one, Terry on Ware part of the

1047
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: main card that's five pm Eastern on UFC Fight Pass.

1048
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: So as we were saying about UFC two to.

1049
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 4: Twenty three, Kenny and we'll get to Ray Longo here

1050
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 4: at about five minutes, you were talking about Kabib not

1051
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: losing rounds in training, and I just think it's so hard,

1052
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 4: based upon what we saw him do his last time

1053
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 4: out to state a case for the other guy. You know,

1054
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: I watched Cubiban Nermongo Metov do what he did in

1055
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 4: the Edson Barboza fight, and I left thinking this is

1056
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: the most dominant force in the game.

1057
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: In any division.

1058
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 4: So even though I sit here and say that I

1059
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 4: think Tony Ferguson is the most accomplished lightweight of all time,

1060
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 4: he is fighting the guy who, in my opinion, right

1061
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: now in twenty eighteen, in any division.

1062
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means. I think he's the

1063
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: pound for.

1064
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 4: Pound best, Butbibnmongo Metov and not anybody else to me,

1065
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 4: is the most dominant force in the game right now.

1066
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 5: And it's interesting because in Habib, you get a guy

1067
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 5: that you know exactly what he's gonna do, you know

1068
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 5: exactly how he's gonna do it, and you.

1069
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 1: Still can't stop him.

1070
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 5: He's like Wayne Retzky back of the day, right, I mean, oh,

1071
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 5: you can't stop him, you know all you hope to contain,

1072
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 5: and Habib is just he's that kind of dude. And again,

1073
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 5: it's a safer game plan when you go in there,

1074
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: when you're that high level of a grappler and you

1075
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 5: have those kind of takedowns that Hibbib has in that

1076
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 5: style of takedown which people aren't really onto yet. I

1077
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 5: think a lot of people are still shooting doubles and singles,

1078
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: and you make yourself very susceptible to a flying knee

1079
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: or an uppercut. For Habib, he gets to that clinch,

1080
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 5: and he gets there very safely for the most part.

1081
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 5: Sometimes he throws a little bit wild on the outside

1082
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 5: from the feet. That's where he needs to be careful

1083
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 5: going forward against a very good counter striker like say

1084
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 5: econom McGregor going forward. But he gets any of those

1085
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 5: guys in the clinch, they're going for a ride. They're

1086
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 5: gonna get some of their maga matof air miles period.

1087
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 5: And when he gets on top of you, you're not

1088
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 5: getting out, and if you do, you're gonna get up bloody,

1089
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 5: you know, dizzy going back you're still asking what what

1090
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 5: bear just attacked you? So for Habib Man, yeah, he's

1091
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 5: just he's a huge guy for the division, a tough

1092
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 5: guy to deal with, and I just don't see anybody

1093
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 5: beating him in that division. But again, if there's someone

1094
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 5: who could pull it off, it's a guy like Ferguson.

1095
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 5: But he's gonna have to bring that chaos, he's gonna

1096
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: have to bring uh scrambling ability in there against Habib.

1097
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,479
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tall test.

1098
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 4: Though spicy crispy chicken sandwich, I mean, I can't get

1099
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 4: it out of my head.

1100
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: All this time we're talking about spicy crispy chicken sandwich.

1101
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 4: That's what's spicy crispy chicken sandwich. They don't put kale

1102
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 4: on that flow. By the way, that's just like frozen romaine.

1103
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sorry. So, by the way, updated betting line

1104
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 4: for Rose nama Unis and you want to Young J

1105
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 4: check JJ minus one fifty five rosama unis plus one

1106
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 4: twenty five. So again, we're gonna be talking to twenty

1107
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 4: three every single week at least for five or ten minutes.

1108
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: And next week we'll touch on that fight a little bit.

1109
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 4: But you want a young jchick right now sitting as

1110
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: the slight betting favorite against rosanama Unis, all right, thirty

1111
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 4: one year old Nick Newell. We're gonna spend much more

1112
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 4: time on this next week when we talk to Luke Thomas,

1113
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 4: who has watched every bit of footage involving this fighter.

1114
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: Some of you know his story, many of you may not.

1115
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: He is a congenital amputee. His left arm ends just

1116
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: below his elbow, so it extends a little bit below

1117
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: his elbow. He retired from MMA in October of twenty fifteen.

1118
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 4: He was thirteen and one at that time. Only pro

1119
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: lost by second round TKO to Justin Gaechee, who is

1120
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 4: only right now one of the best lightweights in the world.

1121
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: So Na returned. It was five days ago.

1122
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: Lfa thirty five won the fight, and now more so

1123
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: than ever before, he wants to fight in the UFC,

1124
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,760
Speaker 4: and certainly this has been his aspiration for some time.

1125
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: But he's making the rounds right now and really trying

1126
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 4: to put the pedal to the medal. And again, we're

1127
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 4: going to talk in greater detail about this next week.

1128
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 4: But Kenny, how much have you followed Nick's story and

1129
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 4: do you have a strong opinion at this moment as

1130
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 4: to whether or not this actually might happen for this

1131
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 4: young man.

1132
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: Right.

1133
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 5: I've met Nick, I've seen a few of his fights.

1134
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 5: Very talented guy and who has accomplished a lot in

1135
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 5: this sport for a guy with one arm. I mean,

1136
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 5: that's absolutely amazing. It's an inspiring story. He's a tremendous grappler.

1137
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 5: He's a guy who is dangerous on the feet. He

1138
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: knows how to kick, he knows how to keep distance.

1139
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 5: He's good at getting you down to the mat and

1140
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 5: when he gets you to the mat. He's brutal, brutal

1141
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,360
Speaker 5: on ground and pound, has good submissions, fun to watch.

1142
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: You know, this is a.

1143
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,760
Speaker 5: Different level though, fighting in the UFC, and and and again,

1144
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,479
Speaker 5: for anybody, this doesn't matter no matter what, whether they're

1145
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 5: going in there with a certain amount of skills or

1146
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 5: something that's going to prevent them from competing to the

1147
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 5: best of their ability.

1148
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: I don't want to see anybody get hurt.

1149
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 5: And you know, for for him, fighting in the UFC,

1150
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 5: I think he would encounter a lot of big time challenges.

1151
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 5: And do I have a strong opinion whether he's gonna

1152
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 5: fight or not, whether I want to see him fight,

1153
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, this is tough because for him,

1154
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 5: he's been out there proving everybody wrong for a long time.

1155
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people would say, ah, I don't

1156
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 5: know if you could do that. I don't know if

1157
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 5: you should do that. And he's out there doing it

1158
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: and doing it extremely well at a high level. So

1159
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 5: who are we to kind of tell him not to compete.

1160
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 5: But at the same time, he's going in there in

1161
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 5: the octagon against all these trained killers who have, you know,

1162
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 5: all their capacities, have all their limbs and all that stuff.

1163
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 5: I mean, imagine him against a Habib Rmaga Madoff, you know.

1164
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: So it again, this is a tough one for me.

1165
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, this is an adult,

1166
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 5: a guy who is a professional fighter. He's been competing

1167
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 5: for a long time. It's his dream to fight in

1168
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 5: the UFC.

1169
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we say no to him? I

1170
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: don't know. It's tricky and tricky.

1171
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 4: A lot of people will talk about his ability as

1172
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 4: you did, to defend himself against UFC level competition, and

1173
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's not gonna love some of the things

1174
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 4: that you're saying, obviously, and those are just your opinions

1175
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: as a fellow fighter, right, in terms of your concerns, right,

1176
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 4: And he's obviously had to answer critics every step of

1177
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: the way. I feel like on the merits of what

1178
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 4: he's done, based upon my short research against regional competition

1179
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: at fourteen and one, that he is a guy who

1180
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 4: can at least win a fighter too in the UFC.

1181
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 4: But is it worth it, Kenny, for the UFC to

1182
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: get on board and take whatever risk this is. You know,

1183
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how much necessarily there is but to

1184
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 4: do this if they think the ceiling on him is

1185
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 4: top twenty five at one hundred and fifty five pounds,

1186
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 4: Maybe they don't think it's worth it. And one thing

1187
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 4: Luke Tom's going to say to you next week on

1188
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 4: our show, I can guarantee it is that nobody has

1189
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: a right to be in the UFC. I guess the

1190
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 4: father and me would love to see this kid, who

1191
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 4: has seemingly done everything right to try to get this

1192
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 4: lifelong dream, get the opportunity to do so. And I

1193
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 4: also just feel like that's the only way he can

1194
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: scratch this itch Kenny right, Like, he's not gonna it

1195
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 4: just in our sport, if I could even call it

1196
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 4: our sport, right, the regional circuit.

1197
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: Is not going to scratch the itch. Right. It's one

1198
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 1: walk to the octagon for Nick Newell.

1199
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 4: And if you want to know which side of it

1200
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 4: I'm on, it's certainly on the side that would like

1201
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 4: to see him at least get the opportunity.

1202
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: But it's not without some pause.

1203
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: I want to hold it down though, right there, because

1204
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 4: we got a good man on the line. Let us

1205
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 4: get to the weekly Ray Long Goo minute.

1206
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: It's now time for the Ray Long Minute.

1207
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: And I'm going to put a hole in this.

1208
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 9: That's what I want.

1209
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: The Ray long Minute, John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

1210
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 4: Sorry, Flow, I feel like I've been cutting you off

1211
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 4: all day and all you have somewhere to get in

1212
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 4: and we will just continue it now with Ray Longo.

1213
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: Looks like you're at the gym today. Is that right,

1214
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,280
Speaker 1: my man?

1215
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 11: I'm at the gym like where I always a yeah,

1216
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 11: absolutely no life.

1217
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: Is Chris Chris Chris Wyman still in the building.

1218
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 6: Kenny was just very serious. I love when he smiled.

1219
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: So is Chris Wyman still in the building or is

1220
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: he gone home?

1221
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 11: He actually just walked out. He gets part of the

1222
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 11: body shop to leave.

1223
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got basketball practice at three pm today, Ray,

1224
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 4: So I understand, Okay, Yeah, we'll leave it down there.

1225
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: Guy's got celebrity.

1226
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,799
Speaker 6: Can we can we continue this the rest of this

1227
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 6: conversation in pig Latin guys.

1228
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 4: Guy's got his guys playing celebrity basketball with thumb injuries.

1229
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: But I know we're not here to talk about that. Ray. Yeah,

1230
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: on the ummy.

1231
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 11: So he got a you know what it is with

1232
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 11: his thumb too, and I'm I'm sure he was playing

1233
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 11: just right handed, but uh, it looks like they might

1234
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 11: have to construct the ligament and his thumb, just similar

1235
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 11: to like an A C L surgery. Yeah, it's it's

1236
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 11: a really you know, I don't know. You know, when

1237
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 11: you're talking about fighting, man, you want to be as

1238
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 11: close to perfect as possible, and I think that's the problem.

1239
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 11: I mean, he's definitely struggling with that, but trying to

1240
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 11: do whatever we can.

1241
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 6: But yeah, I don't know.

1242
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 11: We'll see what happens in the future, but right now

1243
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 11: it looks like some you know, he might have to

1244
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 11: go back in for a surgery.

1245
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 4: Well, here's hoping that is not his fate. Great human being,

1246
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 4: even better fighter, future Hall of Famer, and hopefully he's

1247
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 4: back and it'll be a big spot whenever it happens. Ray,

1248
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 4: you heard us probably talking a little bit about Nick Newell.

1249
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 4: We're gonna devote a decent shank of the show next

1250
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,240
Speaker 4: week to this. Have you ever encountered an amputee, either

1251
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 4: training or otherwise, and how do you feel about this

1252
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 4: entire scenario?

1253
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 11: Uh No, I've never encountered an amputee training or even

1254
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 11: in a competition.

1255
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 8: Uh.

1256
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 6: Man, really.

1257
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 11: Really tricky, slippery slope. I don't know it seems like

1258
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 11: transgenders can fight people with no hearing.

1259
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 6: One kid the who the hell knows?

1260
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 11: I mean, it's I think he needs if he earns it,

1261
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 11: Like if he earned a spot in the UFC and

1262
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 11: he did do good on the local circuit, he fought

1263
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 11: in Belatore, right, I mean he lost to uh, I

1264
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 11: think justin Gachee. I mean, that guy's no pushover. So

1265
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 11: I mean, well, you know, I don't know. It's not

1266
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 11: something I would want to see, but I think, uh,

1267
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 11: I don't you know, Like again, there's nothing saying you

1268
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 11: have to put him into UFC, but if that's a

1269
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 11: dream of his, and I think he's probably done enough

1270
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 11: to at least warrant a fight and see what happens.

1271
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 6: So who knows.

1272
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 4: So in terms of your guys, Al Jamaine, Sterling, al

1273
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 4: Aya Quinta, how go the preparations? And uh, I guess

1274
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: you're starting to sort of really hone in at this point,

1275
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 4: I would think, yeah.

1276
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 11: Well, certainly al Is he's got what a couple of weeks.

1277
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 11: But everybody's doing good. We got like again for those guys,

1278
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 11: it's Morob, Al Jamaine, and Sazaki and they're.

1279
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 6: All looking pretty good.

1280
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 11: So I like that and now and and I quint

1281
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 11: is just starting to starting to peek him. Now, he's

1282
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 11: really been pushing hard, very excited for that fight.

1283
00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a great fight.

1284
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 11: And again my concern is just to make sure everybody

1285
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 11: goes in there as healthy as possible, and so far

1286
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 11: not going wood so good.

1287
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 4: So you got Uluka Sasaki taking on Mago mad Biboo Latov.

1288
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1289
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 6: Yes? Uh, yeah, I think that was yeah.

1290
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, see I told I was telling Mark Henry that,

1291
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 4: and he's like, Sasaki's working with Ray. I mean Longo

1292
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 4: versus Mine love these Ray Longo versus Mark Henry batchups.

1293
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: And Mark didn't even know. He doesn't listen to the

1294
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 4: antik Implorian podcast, so he didn't know you were training Sasaki.

1295
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 11: Now I thought, you know, I called him after the

1296
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 11: Frankie fight, so we talked about it.

1297
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,440
Speaker 6: So it depends on when you had that conversation.

1298
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 11: But uh, you know, I spoke to him right after

1299
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 11: the Frankie fight, and uh we talked about it a

1300
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 11: little bit, you know, and which we don't like it,

1301
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 11: but it is what it is.

1302
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't think he knew Sazaki was over here.

1303
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: But he did not.

1304
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is what it is.

1305
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 11: What it is, man, I think it's just it's just

1306
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 11: gonna make for a better fight, and uh, we'll see

1307
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 11: what happens. But I'm liking uh, I like SAZANKI. Man,

1308
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 11: he's looking good. Yeah, really really, his training's been going

1309
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 11: really good.

1310
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 5: Tall for the division. Man has a lot of potential.

1311
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 5: I'm glad that he's out there working with you.

1312
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I tell you, I think he's six foot,

1313
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 11: it's one hundred and twenty five pounds, five to eleven.

1314
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 11: I mean, he's definitely eyeball eyeball with me, and he's

1315
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 11: a great kid. Communication barrier is a problem, but he

1316
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 11: definitely very visual for sure, and then half the times

1317
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 11: he brings the interpreter.

1318
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 6: With him, which helps out. But what a sweet kid.

1319
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 11: Man, great energy in the gym, always smile and always happy.

1320
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 11: Very very nice guy. Really, I wish the best for

1321
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 11: this kid. He's a very nice kid.

1322
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: All right.

1323
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 4: Last thing, because you brought it up, we talked to

1324
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 4: Mark Henry on our show. Of course, the week before

1325
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 4: the Frankie Edgar fight. You talked to him after the fact.

1326
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 4: Was that just a call to check in on him

1327
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 4: and Frankie. Obviously that would have been a tough thing

1328
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 4: for them to absorb, having never been on the wrong

1329
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,120
Speaker 4: end of a result.

1330
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 11: That yeah, yeah, well I think he he'll confirm this,

1331
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 11: but uh, I think when he picked up the phone,

1332
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 11: he had his head and the noose, he was just

1333
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 11: about to jump off the chair. And I say it,

1334
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 11: but uh, it was almost like the suicide hotline. I

1335
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 11: jumped right there. Yeah, but yeah, no, obviously, you know

1336
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 11: there's such a bond between those guys that uh, you know,

1337
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 11: he was h Yeah, he was, you know, destroyed, but

1338
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 11: he look, he's he's a he's a professional. He trains

1339
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 11: a lot of people. It's guys, it's really really hard.

1340
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 11: You gotta you've got to get emotional for five seconds

1341
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 11: and then you've got to move on to the next

1342
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 11: fight if you're gonna do your job right. So he's

1343
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 11: in a tough spot. He's got all fights coming up.

1344
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 11: But yeah, he was upset. But I say always with

1345
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 11: a sense of humor. We had a lot of laughs,

1346
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 11: and uh, we had a lot of laughs, and uh,

1347
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 11: you know that was it. You know, it's uh, there's

1348
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 11: things outside of fighting. But obviously he was he was

1349
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 11: emotional and that sucked. That sucked for everybody. Everybody loves

1350
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 11: Frank Edgar. He's a great guy, and you know it

1351
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 11: was that was it, But.

1352
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was. I think we did. We did.

1353
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 11: We did laugh a lot in the conversation, and that's

1354
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 11: I like the guy. I think he does a great job.

1355
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 11: And you know, he's he's all in that guy as

1356
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 11: a trainer. I've watched him in action and he's, oh, yeah,

1357
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 11: I can't say enough.

1358
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 6: Good thing.

1359
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 11: Yeah, really good dude, you know, you know, batshit crazy

1360
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 11: but a great guy.

1361
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, all of that.

1362
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 6: All of that. Oh no, no, he's bounds for real.

1363
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 4: Look at how good you're getting at this whole audio

1364
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 4: video mix. You're like pausing FaceTime mid interview. I mean,

1365
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 4: you are a true renaissance man. And it's five of

1366
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 4: the hour. I know you have a private coming up

1367
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 4: at two pm Eastern, So uh, any final parting shop

1368
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: before we let you get on your way.

1369
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 12: Uh.

1370
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 6: I think that's it, you know, I think that's it.

1371
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 11: Hopefully, Uh next week I'll be a little more awake

1372
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 11: and I can make Kenny laugh.

1373
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 6: We were a little low on the laughing, A little low,

1374
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 6: a little low. I don't like.

1375
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's better on a Monday.

1376
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 4: He's not in a great mood today, and I, dude,

1377
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 4: I didn't even get to you on John Jones.

1378
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: Can we do that next week? Can we? Can we

1379
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: save it next week?

1380
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 6: Let's go. Let's let's attack John Jones again.

1381
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 11: We gotta help he's he's an addict and we got

1382
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 11: to get him at the reheb as quick as possible.

1383
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, I am going to lead with John

1384
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 4: Jones and not bury it next week when we have

1385
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 4: you back, quick turn on a Monday, Dude, don't don't

1386
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 4: block the cell phone.

1387
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: Take my call.

1388
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 6: Definitely. You guys are the best.

1389
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 11: Thanks, have a good day, shake the rest of this

1390
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 11: show up.

1391
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: Buddy, I will, I will, I need my coffee.

1392
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: Take it easy, guys, buddy, buddy, thank you. I can't

1393
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 4: believe he calls me this morning because he wants to

1394
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 4: talk about John Jones. And then we just started going

1395
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 4: in a number of different directions. But more on Nick

1396
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 4: Newell next week. I think it's a pretty interesting and

1397
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,760
Speaker 4: compelling story and we'll see what happens. You know, I

1398
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 4: would never want to say that he would be penalized

1399
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 4: for it, but I guess the the softy in me

1400
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 4: and the emotional guy just would hate to see him

1401
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 4: never be afforded the opportunity just because of it.

1402
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: You know.

1403
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: It's like if he says, if I get to twenty

1404
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 4: and one, you know, can I then in And if

1405
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 4: the answer is no, then maybe he should just cut

1406
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 4: his losses and go do something else, as he has

1407
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 4: done for the last three years before coming back.

1408
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: But seems to be a really good kid.

1409
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 4: Kenny, obviously you have spoken to him, and it's just

1410
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 4: hard in the sports vacuum to not root for feel

1411
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: good stories and this, you know, not unlike Justin Wren

1412
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 4: and some other things going on in the space. I

1413
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: just think would be something that would make you feel

1414
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 4: really good about, you know, this kid and his opportunity

1415
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 4: to not just chase, but ultimately fulfill the dream.

1416
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: So we'll see, all right.

1417
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 4: Now back to the guest line and joining us. One

1418
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 4: of the most dominant champions in the world, she returns

1419
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 4: to defend her title at UFC two twenty four May

1420
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,840
Speaker 4: twelfth in Rio Dejonaio, Brazil. She is the UFC Women's

1421
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 4: Band of Way Champion. She of course is Amanda Noon,

1422
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 4: is Amanda John and Kenny here. It's good to have

1423
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 4: you with us.

1424
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,600
Speaker 1: How are you good?

1425
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 13: How are you guys?

1426
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 12: Thank you for having me in.

1427
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 6: Thank you.

1428
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: It is our absolute pleasure.

1429
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 4: So I know you're living and training full time in

1430
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: the United States, is that right?

1431
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 8: Yeay?

1432
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,960
Speaker 1: So how long have you lived in the.

1433
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 4: States and how has that transition been for you overall?

1434
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 12: You know, the.

1435
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 13: Transus for me was very good. I step in this

1436
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 13: country and I was very young, like we're twenty years

1437
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 13: old now I'm our moisty thirty and the tradition was normal.

1438
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 13: Of course I have to learn it. They I have

1439
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 13: to learn learn the English everything. But it was a

1440
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 13: matter of time, you know, Like I mean, he likes

1441
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 13: straight in a United States for almost six years now,

1442
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 13: Like yeah, I don't.

1443
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 12: I always say, and then go back to Brazil and

1444
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 12: but almost sixty years outside to stay and I love it.

1445
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 12: I love to say, you know, change a lot of

1446
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 12: my life when.

1447
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 8: I make that movie.

1448
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 4: Well, and I know we love having you here in

1449
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 4: South Florida. Now it's been three years since you fought

1450
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 4: in Brazil. But of course this time, when you defend

1451
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 4: your belt, you're gonna be the last fighter to walk

1452
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 4: to the octagon. You're gonna be walking in as the champion.

1453
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 4: Have you thought about what that moment is gonna be

1454
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 4: like for you and to try to make sure that

1455
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 4: you keep your focus where it needs to be because

1456
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 4: obviously this crowd is gonna pop as soon as you

1457
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 4: come through that curtain.

1458
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 13: I'm very happy to go back to Brazil, you know,

1459
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 13: especially the same of my belt there with it with

1460
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 13: all all my people.

1461
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 12: You know, that's also and you.

1462
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 13: Know, I'm focusing to walk away with my belt once again.

1463
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 13: You know it's gonna be all it's gonna be in Brazil.

1464
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 13: But the many focuses is my belt, the Fender's belt,

1465
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 13: and then you know, do my bank inside the case.

1466
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,880
Speaker 13: And I'm very happy, you know, fighting Brazil always like

1467
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 13: it's an amazing, amazing moment. In three years, I'll go.

1468
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 12: I went back there. I promised to my mother.

1469
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 13: I only go back to Brazil with my belt, and

1470
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 13: then I did it.

1471
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,959
Speaker 12: Now I'm gonna go back in the same day.

1472
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 8: Awesome.

1473
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 13: You know, I'm very happy.

1474
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 5: It's been amazing what you've been able to accomplish so far. Mana,

1475
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 5: You're gonna be taking on Raquel Pennington. What what are

1476
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 5: some of the challenges that Raquel brings to the cage.

1477
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 13: Actually, Rocky evolves a lot, you know, he did that

1478
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,800
Speaker 13: fight against Mission. She show like a lot of hard

1479
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 13: you know, and she she show like she's taking the cages.

1480
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,959
Speaker 13: Is gonna be a battle, and he had a good,

1481
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 13: good ju And you know this is gonna be awesome

1482
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 13: because if he goes on the ground, he's gonna be

1483
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 13: good for me as well. You know, I'm black belt

1484
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 13: in the Vian I have a lot of experience as well.

1485
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 12: And you know this is MMA.

1486
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 13: Everywhere is dangerous. You know, everybody set today is ready

1487
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 13: to go. Rocky is gonna come strike with me. And

1488
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 13: then if he if she be able to clean, she's

1489
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 13: gonna use the cages, gonna do the dirty box. I

1490
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 13: know that if she goes go to the ground, she's

1491
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 13: gonna try to go to the guillotine, to the bulldog chokes.

1492
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 8: She's very strong at it.

1493
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 13: And I know everything she's gonna do, you know, And

1494
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 13: I have to be ready and respect everything. You know,

1495
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 13: nobody stepping the cagy fifty percent.

1496
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 5: You know you went five hard rounds in your last

1497
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 5: fight against Valentina chev Chanko.

1498
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: What did you learn from that fight?

1499
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 12: I learned it.

1500
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 13: I can get in the five rounds, you know, because

1501
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 13: a lot of people talk about that. You know, my

1502
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 13: mother never never went five rounds.

1503
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 12: And she het a guy down things like that. But

1504
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 12: I now approve it.

1505
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 8: I prove it.

1506
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 12: Everybody's grown, you know, especially me that.

1507
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,560
Speaker 13: I like to to go to the gym and then

1508
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 13: evolve all the time. You never can talk about a

1509
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 13: fight and like to train and evolve.

1510
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 12: You have to wait for the next fight to at

1511
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 12: least talk about you know, you'll never judge it a

1512
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 12: fight because the last fight you have to like give.

1513
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 13: A chancey.

1514
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 12: A fighter. Always go to the gym always, like Tom

1515
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 12: clod It.

1516
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 4: Right, you have seen women's Spanning Way champion Amanda Noona

1517
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: is with us here on the Anakin and Florian podcast.

1518
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 4: So every interview you do between now and that fight,

1519
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: you are going to be asked about Chris Cyborg. Are

1520
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: you tired of that narrative and that story or are

1521
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 4: you just prepared for the fact that you're gonna have

1522
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 4: to address it pretty much every step of the way

1523
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: until you fight Raquel and me.

1524
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 12: You know, of course.

1525
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,360
Speaker 13: My focus is rocky, but I used to have to

1526
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 13: talk about craz I don't have any problem, but my

1527
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 13: focus is not her right now.

1528
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 12: Because we have a chance.

1529
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 13: But she's decided to fight, fighting her life, fight against

1530
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 13: the girl and tried. But right now in my sex

1531
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 13: is Rocky. After that, I have another girl in the line,

1532
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 13: you know, have the Brazilia and gal Vieta. She's like

1533
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 13: she's ready to go. You know, I think she's the

1534
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 13: next contenter for sure. And I'm happy because my my

1535
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 13: weight class and have two continents right now, and I'm

1536
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 13: not order about it out fighting so badly right now

1537
01:09:17,320 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 13: because we had a chance. You know, she like was

1538
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 13: very very hard to negotiate with, you see, and then

1539
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 13: things move on. You know, I'm never gonna say you

1540
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 13: waiting for somebody. I want to fight my next sat

1541
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 13: to Rockie and I.

1542
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 12: Have it like right after Rocky having a Bregina yol.

1543
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,200
Speaker 12: You know I'm used to do. And I mean, I'm

1544
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 12: gonna wait for.

1545
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 4: Nobody, you know, right No, And it makes sense and

1546
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 4: you're absolutely right about Kaitlyn Vida and they are a

1547
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,280
Speaker 4: handful of other Bandam weight contenders. If you were though

1548
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 4: to move up to one hundred and forty five pounds,

1549
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 4: would would you need some time to put some weight on?

1550
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 1: Would you move up and stay there.

1551
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 4: I mean, i'd imagine you have to consider all of

1552
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 4: these things honest.

1553
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 12: Honestly, like I have to have time, you know, I

1554
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 12: had to training for sideballs ex sires. You know this

1555
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 12: is no it's not something easy like I said, you

1556
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 12: fight again, rug, and we're gonna stack to the next

1557
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 12: month or two months to fight side bag. And I

1558
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 12: think it is fair for me, you.

1559
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 13: Know, I think you easy, easy, you You're gonna give

1560
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 13: it to you, and she's gonna make me fight her.

1561
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 12: Or I decided to fight her or whatever. I had

1562
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 12: to have my time to get ready for her. You know,

1563
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 12: we had to make this fair and I fight I

1564
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 12: they say, you one hundred pistols, you know, given me

1565
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 12: time to training for her, and everything's gonna be fine.

1566
01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 9: But you see, you think.

1567
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 12: Day one, I said, like, well, like one month. You know,

1568
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 12: you know, I don't think it's just fair. I think

1569
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 12: you have to have give the timing to get ready

1570
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 12: for her.

1571
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 1: Right now. It makes a lot of sense.

1572
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 4: And I know you believe you're the best pound for

1573
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 4: pound women's mixed martial arts athlete in the world, and

1574
01:10:58,040 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 4: I think that's a big part of why you called

1575
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 4: her out, not just the payday that would come with it,

1576
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 4: but your chance to prove that it is you and

1577
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599
Speaker 4: not her who is the best in the world pound

1578
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 4: for pound at least right.

1579
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 13: Now, Yeah, I think that Bas you want to fight

1580
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 13: the bask you know, she's a bank in her divisions.

1581
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 12: Is not to do about country, It's not to do

1582
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 12: uh is not personal against nobody. No, this is a business,

1583
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 12: you know, And when it becomes business, you want to

1584
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 12: fight the bank. I'm the back of my division. You

1585
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 12: SI's the bank her division, and we're gonna step in

1586
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 12: the cave, you know. And but I have to have

1587
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 12: my time. I have to have my my right, my

1588
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:40,639
Speaker 12: ride ways training, you know, and things still walk out.

1589
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 13: But Ryoster my fighter, this is and we're gonna see

1590
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 13: my forming. They takes my time, you know, I'm not

1591
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 13: gonna tak about Ryoster. And and it's sad, it's not

1592
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 13: one hundred percent. And then do a camp and then

1593
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 13: go rast and then do another tense doesn't make it

1594
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 13: all extense, you know, doesn't make any sense.

1595
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 4: Right, No, I agree with everything you just said. All right,

1596
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 4: last thing, your girlfriend Nina answer off, she had a

1597
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 4: big win her last time out. Amanda, You gotta get

1598
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 4: her a fight though. She's got to get back in there.

1599
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 4: You got the power, let's go.

1600
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 12: Every day I talk to her about that.

1601
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 7: Jeez, mackenzy, my kids, you want to fight, right?

1602
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 12: Oh okay, bring him? Given McKenzie to Nina, why not?

1603
01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 13: You know what I mean?

1604
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 7: Like you want to fight, you just fall out our teammates, Alex,

1605
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 7: but Alex met even Meekinyet, she's like she's going, She's

1606
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 7: gonna come back.

1607
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 12: But she's lowly, you know, right, you have to cook

1608
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:39,759
Speaker 12: and then getting her stagut. But Mila's Laddy raising mackenzy.

1609
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 12: Given McKenzie to Nina. You know you want to fight Nina,

1610
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 12: Laddy to go.

1611
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 4: I love it having Amanda do her dirty work. Well

1612
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 4: that's a good call out right there, and maybe that

1613
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,519
Speaker 4: may they make that fight. She is the UFC Women's

1614
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:54,320
Speaker 4: Spanning whit Champa Amanda Noonz defense against Raquel Pennington May twelfth,

1615
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 4: UFC two twenty four in Rio. You can only see

1616
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 4: it on pay per view. Amanda, we love you, Thanks

1617
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 4: for the time. We wish you all the best, and

1618
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: I guess we'll see you in a few weeks in Rio.

1619
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 4: Thanks for the time, Hunt, Thank you, We love you too.

1620
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: All right.

1621
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 4: There she is Amanda Nunez and interesting, Kenny too to

1622
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 4: hear her talk about Kaitlyn Vieda. Right, there are a

1623
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 4: lot of considerations for Amanda noons when it comes to

1624
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 4: the Cyborg fight, but she's also not afraid to acknowledge

1625
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 4: that if the number one fighter in the world, the

1626
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 4: number one contender is Brazilian, there is no pause, Kenny.

1627
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you know a lot of Brazilians, Chris Cyborg

1628
01:13:28,479 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 4: foremost among them, they don't want to fight their fellow

1629
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 4: countrymen and women. Amanda Nunez has no problem fighting Chris Cyborg.

1630
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 4: She's ready to get her mits on Kaitlyn Vieta. I mean,

1631
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 4: I know maybe that doesn't sit well with all Brazilians,

1632
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 4: but I have a certain amount of respect for her

1633
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 4: willingness to take on all comers, regardless of what flags

1634
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 4: draped over your shoulders.

1635
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 5: Absolutely, absolutely, to the point where you know, I think

1636
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 5: Amanda was criticized because you know, she was cheering for

1637
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 5: Tsha Torres Uh when you know she was competing in

1638
01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 5: her last fight against Andrash And it's just ridiculous, you know, listen,

1639
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 5: But the Brazilian people, they're very they have a lot

1640
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 5: of pride, uh for their country. But listen, this is

1641
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 5: a business where you don't bring your whole country in there.

1642
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 5: It's one on one, you know what I mean. It's

1643
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 5: not This isn't the Olympics.

1644
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 1: Here.

1645
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 5: You gotta go out there and fight and make as

1646
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 5: much money as you can. And there's a lot of

1647
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 5: great Brazilian fighters out there, and you can't just say, oh,

1648
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 5: you know, I'm gonna I'm not gonna fight a fellow Brazilian, right,

1649
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 5: It's got to happen.

1650
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: It's got to happen.

1651
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 5: Amanda understands that very well, and I love her eagerness

1652
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 5: to fight whoever, whenever.

1653
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm a Tisha Turus thing. That's

1654
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 4: her dear friend, her sister, right, her longtime teammate exactly.

1655
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're not rooting for that person, right,

1656
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 4: It's like me though, I wonder if I had a

1657
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 4: dear friend who was a New Yorker, could I still

1658
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 4: root for in a cage fight.

1659
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know, I'd be yeah.

1660
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:54,520
Speaker 4: I don't love rooting for Brian Stan as a Pennsylvania

1661
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 4: guy necessarily, so I don't know it'd be tough. Thankfully

1662
01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 4: Ken flows of Bostonian and made things very easy. All right,

1663
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 4: good stuff from Amanda. Noone is there on the Anaica

1664
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 4: Florian podcast. All right, that is gonna do it for today.

1665
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,759
Speaker 4: Thank you to our guest TJ. Dilla Shaw, Amanda noonez.

1666
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 4: Of course Ray Longo. Quick turnaround as I mentioned for

1667
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 4: us on Monday, so we will join radio. We will

1668
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 4: be joined by radio star Luke Thomas. He'll talk about

1669
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 4: Nick Newle, some other items UFC related as well, and

1670
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 4: whether or not he thinks Nick Newle's future should lie

1671
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 4: in the octagon and will Ken Flo.

1672
01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: I know you got to get out of here. This

1673
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: show is not paying the bills.

1674
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: May ROCKYBJJ, MAYROCKYBJJ dot com. It's eleven six seventy seven

1675
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 4: Santa Monica Boulevard. I mean, what do you pay for

1676
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 4: that real estate for that address? Eleven six seventy seven

1677
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,719
Speaker 4: Santa Monica Boulevard, Los Angeles, California.

1678
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:41,719
Speaker 1: It's May Rocky BJJ.

1679
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,519
Speaker 4: If you walk in there and tell them that John

1680
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 4: Annick is paying ten dollars towards your first class, I

1681
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 4: don't know what you get if you do that.

1682
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 1: But do that and see what they say.

1683
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 4: Just see what they say, see how they react may

1684
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 4: Rocky BJJ.

1685
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: Beautiful jim Ken flow.

1686
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 4: If they do want to you though, I mean, are

1687
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 4: there any times where you are absolutely there?

1688
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:04,520
Speaker 1: Not for photos?

1689
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 4: I mean you got to bring a gee, But is

1690
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 4: there any time of the week where, unequivocally with the newborn,

1691
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 4: though you're still you're still there.

1692
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 5: I was there for the last two weeks every single day.

1693
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 5: I taught four classes in one day. Absolutely I've been there. Yeah,

1694
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 5: all right, that's good.

1695
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 4: As your daughter, true Florian been inside the walls of

1696
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 4: my Rocky Beach, she has not.

1697
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: She hasn't.

1698
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 5: She hasn't left the Florian compound too much. You know,

1699
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 5: like your immune system isn't very strong right now. So okay, well,

1700
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,600
Speaker 5: I know once in a while she's been out a

1701
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 5: couple times. We take her on the stroller, we go

1702
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 5: for walks. You know, don't be twelve shots yet. But no,

1703
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 5: I know, I see, I know that you're smart. You

1704
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:42,280
Speaker 5: would have for it.

1705
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 4: I just wanted to make sure because I know these

1706
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu practitioners are a crazy, crazy people, and it

1707
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 4: wouldn't it all surprise me if they just ignored that

1708
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,040
Speaker 4: someone else can.

1709
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 1: I touch the baby, Can I see the baby?

1710
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 5: Then you have to be a jerk and go no,

1711
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 5: get your freaking, dirty, sweaty hands away from my child.

1712
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's cool. I only have staff on my back.

1713
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 4: It's the kisworm. Is this ringworm? Yeah? All right, buddy

1714
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 4: and stuff. Good to see you, uh and we will

1715
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 4: talk to you in a few days. We are back

1716
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,799
Speaker 4: on Monday with that for the flow and our fine

1717
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 4: Fox Sports crew, Bend Masork and the rest. I'm John Anixan,

1718
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 4: So long for now. We'll talk to you in a

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