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Speaker 1: the Giants podcast Network. Welcome to the newest edition of

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Speaker 1: the Giants Hubtle Podcast. My name is John Schmolke, today's

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Speaker 1: guest senior editor of Big Blue Interactive, Eric Kennedy. Before

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Speaker 1: Now it's bringing our guest, Eric Kennedy. He's the senior

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Speaker 1: editor over at Big Blue Interactive. Eric, first of all,

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Speaker 1: hope you and your family, everybody in your world they're

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Speaker 1: safe and healthy. Yeah, we're doing great. Thank you very much, excellent.

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Speaker 1: Before we get going, way, don't you tell folks so

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Speaker 1: where they could find your work and check out everything

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Speaker 1: on b b I. Yeah, yeah, as you mentioned, it's

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Interactive dot Com is the website we've been

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Speaker 1: in business since um. It's a basic, great a place

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Speaker 1: and we have a most popular section is a fan forum,

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Speaker 1: so it's sort of almost like a cyberbar where people

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Speaker 1: it gets quite lively over there, but the best decide

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Speaker 1: in the nutshell. Absolutely lively, I think is a good

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Speaker 1: way to put it. What do you think Eric has

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Speaker 1: been in your opinion, the biggest story has been in

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Speaker 1: topics for you guys over a B B I this offseason. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's what a lot of people are talking about.

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Speaker 1: It's the COVID issue obviously, and how the how the

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Speaker 1: teams are gonna be handling this. Um, It's it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's it's an awkward time I think to be a

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Speaker 1: fan because I think that I can you can almost

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Speaker 1: even gonna happen? So I almost don't sense the build

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Speaker 1: up yet because I think there there are some fans

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Speaker 1: out there that don't expect it to happen, and there

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Speaker 1: are others are a crossing their fingers. So I think

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Speaker 1: it's when we get into the floor practices that are

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Speaker 1: I think around around the seventeenth or the eighteenth of

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Speaker 1: this month and we start seeing more videos from Giants

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Speaker 1: the preseason. I think the expectations will will will build up.

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Speaker 1: But from a from a fan point of view, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously the COVID thing is has has dominated the discussions.

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Speaker 1: There are football issues too, but that that's been the

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Speaker 1: guys were in football jersey's running around. It was great

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Speaker 1: to see. Um, it's something we haven't seen in a

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Speaker 1: starting on the seventeenth. Eric. So when it comes to

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Speaker 1: I think fact Rail, for instance, was an interesting signing

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Speaker 1: if you know, he's a guy that fans think can't play,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a consensus who's going to play

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Speaker 1: I think it's really gonna be an open competition. How

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Speaker 1: ex so do you think fans eric are for Davie

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Speaker 1: I think they're very excited. I think when you look

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Speaker 1: even played some cornerback in college. Um, now they're not

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Speaker 1: they keep talking about being multiple and changing based on

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Speaker 1: different things. I think they can keep UM offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: think it's Jabrol Peppers. I think it's gonna be tough

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Speaker 1: understand the point. They do not have that number one

431
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 1: option that DeAndre Hopkins at Julio Jones. I get that,

432
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,160
Speaker 1: and I'm obviously you prefer to have one of those

433
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:53,400
Speaker 1: guys than not no argument seated. But the idea that

434
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 1: this team and Daniel Jones does not have enough weapons

435
00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,360
Speaker 1: with a young receiver that's getting better in Slaton, two

436
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: guys that we know can separate and get open in

437
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: Tayton Shepherd. Shepherd's injury history, fair point can't argue with it,

438
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,040
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram's you know, injury history, fair point can't argue

439
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: with it. But in terms of a matchup tight end,

440
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: he's one of the best in the league as a receiver.

441
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: And then you have, say Kombarkle, you can basically be

442
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 1: a receiver if you want him to do an addition

443
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 1: to being, you know, probably the most elusive running back

444
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: in the league. So I don't get why there's so

445
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: much concern over the skill positions on offense. Now, next year,

446
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: if you know, we'll see what happens, you're gonna have

447
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,119
Speaker 1: to draft somebody maybe, But at least for this year,

448
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: if these guys are healthy, I think that's a pretty

449
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: good group. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm with you on this,

450
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,680
Speaker 1: and I don't actually see a lot of um disagreement

451
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 1: with that, at least on on my site. Well that's good.

452
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: How do you hear that you're always gonna have somebody

453
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: complain about something. I mean that that's just that's just normal,

454
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: and everybody wants the perfect roster. I think the big

455
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 1: concern is what you mentioned is as long as everybody

456
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 1: stays healthy. And that's the key because last year, as

457
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: we know with Daniel Jones, he never had this group

458
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: on the field together as a group all year long.

459
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 1: That they were never none of these players, all these

460
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 1: players weren't together for one game last year. And then

461
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: there's the issue. You see Evan Ingram in one game

462
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: and you're and you say, wow, that guy is a

463
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 1: superstar waiting to happen, and then he disappears the next game,

464
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: and then he's then and then he's on injured reserve.

465
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd. I love watching this guy play, but I

466
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: think we're all still waiting for that big monster one

467
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: thousand yards season out of him that he just can't

468
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: seem the crack and now then is with with with

469
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 1: a concussion. So as long as everyone stays healthy, I

470
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: still think and now you're gonna get lots of young

471
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: fans that that I think recognizes. But I still think

472
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: we as a group because we've we got we've just

473
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 1: been beaten down with the losing UM the last few years.

474
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: I still think we we underappreciate how good stake won.

475
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 1: Bar Lee is. I had a discussion with somebody the

476
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: other day and they were still arguing whether we should

477
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: have drafted sa Kwan Barkley in the draft, and I

478
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 1: you know, you could make that argument. The one argument

479
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: you could make is should the Giants have traded down

480
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: given where they were in the rebuilding process. Should they

481
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 1: have traded down and accumulated more draft picks to rebuild

482
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: the team. That's a fair argument. But I look at

483
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: that draft and I say he's the best player to

484
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: come out of that draft, and he is. He does

485
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 1: things I'm fifty two. He does things I've never seen

486
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: a player do on the football field. UM used to

487
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: in the old days, there was this this UM. George

488
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 1: Young was once interviewed about Lawrence Taylor and he said,

489
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: if you didn't know, um anything about football, you would

490
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: automatically your eyes would gravitate towards Lawrence Taylor because he

491
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: he was the best player on the field. And you

492
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: could tell even if you didn't know anything about football.

493
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: Same thing with with with Sa Kwon Barkley. If when

494
00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 1: when when you watch him play, he's running at different

495
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: speed than anybody else. So I think any offense that

496
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 1: has sa Kwon Barkley in it, as long as you

497
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: have a decent offensive line, it's gonna be dangerous. But then,

498
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: as you said, Darius Slayton had an amazing year last year,

499
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: Golden Tate is still playing well. Stirring Shepherd is a

500
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: guy that can give people issues out of the slot

501
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: over the middle, and he still makes some some really

502
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: amazing catches in the red zone and so forth. So

503
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I think as long as these guys and then and

504
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: you mentioned that in Ingram, so now you've got Daniel

505
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 1: Jones maybe throwing a lot to say Kwan Barkley out

506
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: of the backfield, because I think Jason Garrett's gonna really

507
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: use say Kwan in the passing game, and I think

508
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: they've got I think this offense can cause a lot

509
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: of problems for teams, especially if they don't have teams

510
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: that don't have good linebackers in coverage. I think that

511
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: this is this is gonna be an issue for a

512
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: lot of teams defending this um. It just gets back

513
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: to the team health. Sterling Shepherd, can you stay healthy?

514
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram can you stay healthy, Can everybody um play

515
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: together on the field, and that they can, I think,

516
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 1: I think this is an interesting team. And then you've

517
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: got a few other guys I'm still curious to see,

518
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: like Corey Coleman. You know, he got his season season

519
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: um ended last year because because the knee issue, but

520
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: he was supposedly showing some some good things early in

521
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 1: camp too, So I'm actually curious to see how even

522
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: a guy like him, if this coaching staff can get

523
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: something out of him. You know, Eric, I thought we

524
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: were done talking about the offensive line. Finally he did.

525
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: I thought we were um. Now, look, it was still

526
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: a matter of Nate's solder having a bounce back year,

527
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: and you know, Dave Getleman talked about that, and Nate

528
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: talked about that. Everyone knew that he you know, that

529
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 1: he expected himself to play better this year and that

530
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,479
Speaker 1: that's fine. But removing him from the equation is a

531
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: different situation because now while you figured Andrew Thomas was

532
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: going to earn one of the two starting spots, now

533
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: he you know, really needs to be good and to

534
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: be good at one of those starting spots. And then

535
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: you have Cam Fleming, who has never been a full

536
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,479
Speaker 1: time starter. He started a bunch of games, but ever

537
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: been a full time starter. And then you have met Parrot,

538
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: who a lot of people thought, you know, give him

539
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: a red shirt year within the off season, maybe a

540
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: year and a half red shirt, who knows. And now

541
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to figure this out here and make

542
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: the best of it. And you don't have somebody with

543
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: the track record of Solder as a you know, average

544
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: to above average level starter in this league that you

545
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 1: can kind of count on, and you're kind of back

546
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: into the landing that you unknown a little bit. Yeah,

547
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: talk about pressure on Andrew Thomas here. Yeah, photos closure.

548
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: I was a big fan of Science drafting him, So

549
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: he was a guy that I thought was the best

550
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: lineman coming in the draft, and when they drafted him,

551
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: I was thrilled. So I look at him and I

552
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: think he's a twelve year starter in this league. Yep, Yeah,

553
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I think he Now the question is again no preseason,

554
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: very limited number of practices in camp. I think all

555
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Giants fans are expecting growing pains once again here if

556
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: this was a normal year, I actually think the um

557
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier being out long term might actually be better

558
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: for the for the Giants because it because Andrew Thomas

559
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: is your left tackle of the future, so he's you know,

560
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: borrowing something unforeseen here. I think everyone thinks he's gonna

561
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: play left tackle this year, so he's gonna so instead

562
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: of maybe possibly starting off at right tackle his rookie

563
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: season and then next year switching over, he's gonna he's

564
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: gonna start the experiment right now here. Let's go this.

565
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 1: He's the guy for better or worse. He's gonna, he's

566
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna get his reps now, he's gonna start

567
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: working at that position. So in a way, I think

568
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: long term this may work out better for Andrew Thomas

569
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: because he's basically getting another year early under his belt.

570
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is is the other tackle spot, Because

571
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned Fleming and now that they've uh extended Nick

572
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: Gates's contract and he could obviously today, UH coach Judge

573
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: shedded more light on that. He does that he definitely

574
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: sees him as a candidate at center, but also as

575
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: a candidate at tackle. So I think Nick Gates is

576
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: viewed as a potential starter at either one of those spots.

577
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: You've got Fleming there. Um. I really when you look physically.

578
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 1: When you look at at Matt Perk parrot um, he

579
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: certainly looks the part. When you see Andrew Thomas pictures

580
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: of Andrew Thomason's video of Andrew Thomas and Matt Perk,

581
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: they look they look like NFL lying a big long arms,

582
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: they're big guys, they're athletic. They just look like they

583
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: look like the players that we would have to see

584
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: on the football field. But that's the key spot in

585
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: the center spot right now on the offensive line, because

586
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna be alright at guard.

587
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: I think they um. I think Andrew Thomas barring again

588
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the growing pains that you're gonna see from your your

589
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: typical rookie, I think he's he's your your starter at

590
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: that spot. It's what are they gonna do with er?

591
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: And what are they going to do it at right tackle?

592
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: But they do have some options at least at right tackle.

593
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: Center center is more interesting to me because you've got

594
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: they've got no preseason, no very limited number of practices,

595
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: and a couple of guys in the mix who are

596
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: going to be conversion projects. And that's that's gonna make

597
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: things interesting. Did they just go with Spencer Polly because

598
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: he's been there and he's played the position. Or do

599
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: they take a chance on the upside and go with

600
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: the gates Um or go with one of the rookie

601
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: guards that, like we knew that they drafted. Do they

602
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: look at him and say, we're just going to roll

603
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: the dice on somebody like the Giants did debt back

604
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: in when they had a linemanman named Kevin belcher Um

605
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: who was a guard and they converted him the center

606
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: as a rookie and he had a stellar rookie year

607
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 1: and unfortunately had a car car wreck. He was in

608
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: a car wreck in the off season and that ended

609
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: his career. But they actually did this a number of

610
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: decades ago with with the guard and and Bill Parcels

611
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: had him start start at center and it worked great

612
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: for them as because he ended up actually been a

613
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: tremendous player for them that year. Yeah, so it'll be

614
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: interesting to see. I agree. I think that center spot

615
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: will kind of go down to the wire. I think

616
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: that other tackle spot are Brilli bolt tackle spots will too,

617
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: And Nick Gates will be a key here. And I

618
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: guess wherever he plays best or wherever the next best

619
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: guy plays he'll go to that spot. But and again,

620
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: much like those two quarterback spots, it will be very

621
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: interesting thing to watch this offseason. Eric, final thing, What

622
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: do you think are the expectations this year from from

623
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: the fans on b B. I, you know, what do

624
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: they think is gonna happen? And what in your mind

625
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: and in their mind do you think would be considered

626
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: a successful season by the fan base given the fact

627
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: that it's a judge's first year, no offseason, young team,

628
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: all that stuff put in the cauldron and and and

629
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: kind of what comes out. I can't get the fans

630
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: right now to get excited about this season because of

631
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 1: the covidd thing. I think they are very down on this,

632
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of you know, there's

633
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people that wonder if the season is

634
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: going to happen right now. So you've got people that

635
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, regardless of where your stances on on on

636
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: all of this, some people are convinced that there's not

637
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: going to be a season. Other people think this season

638
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: will be canceled. Other people think it's going to be

639
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: a mess, while other fans are optimistic. So so, but

640
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: you can sense that there are people that are still

641
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: hedging their bets on this, and that's the problem. So

642
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: the talk that I see is from a lot of

643
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: people is this season is gonna be a mess. It's

644
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. Joe Judge, Um is probably

645
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: gonna get a pass on this. Um and should get

646
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: a pass on this because it's because nothing's gonna be normal.

647
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Um My, my, I think it's gonna be interesting in

648
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: this sense. I think, Um, you're in a division right

649
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,239
Speaker 1: now where only one coaching staff is returning. You've got

650
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: the Eagles were so everybody else in the NFC East

651
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: has a brand new coaching staff, and I my sense

652
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: is that the team that is the best prepared to

653
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: handle the unusual circumstances that were in combined with the

654
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Speaker 1: team that stays healthy from the COVID issue and injuries,

655
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: might might be surprising. If you look at a team

656
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: like the Moonland Patriots, for instance, they I think they're

657
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: up the eight or nine players who have opted out.

658
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: That's that's starting to whittle away at at at the

659
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: core of a team when you start getting that many

660
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: players losing that many players. The Giants have been fairly

661
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: fortunate so far in terms of the COVID impact other

662
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: than eight soldier. So if the Giants can stay healthy, Um,

663
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: if Joe Judge has the team organized better than his opponents,

664
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Speaker 1: then I think they can be more competitive in the

665
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: short term than some fans are many fans expect. I

666
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: think the overallwhelming expectation, however, is this is new coach um,

667
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: the COVID issue combined with no preseason, very young Giants team,

668
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, starting from the quarterback, but all the way

669
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: throughout the roster, extremely young team. I think most fans

670
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: are thinking, if it's gonna be tough to have a

671
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: good year here, and I think they think that the

672
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: that they will define success as just simply seeing progress. Um.

673
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna be a little bit more optimistic than that.

674
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: But I mean, most fans are saying, if the Giants

675
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Speaker 1: are playing better football in November and December than they

676
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: are playing in the early part of the season, they'll say,

677
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: we're building to something. This you were making progress and

678
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: we we we can see we can see uh light

679
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the tunnel. The flip side is

680
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: that if they're playing worst football in November and December

681
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: and you know, and I don't think this will happen

682
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: because I'm a big Daniel Jones fan based on what

683
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 1: I've seen so far. But if Daniel Jones regresses and

684
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: we have a three and thirteen season and we're starting

685
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: to talk about quarterbacks in the draft again, that would

686
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: be the nightmare scenario. I don't think that's gonna happen,

687
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: but there there are those that those kinds of questions

688
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: still come out. You know what, what happens If the

689
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: Giants have a really, really bad a year and the

690
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks not playing well, I think that that would be

691
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: the worst case for Mr Mara and Mr Tish if

692
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: they saw that. I think the best case scenario, obviously,

693
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: is that they're in the playoffs, still hunt the playoff.

694
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: I'm still in November somehow, um, but that's what we'll

695
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: have to see. Yes, please don't maybe take big book

696
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: kickoff calls in December with that happening, Please please, No,

697
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: don want to do that either. I can't even and

698
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we will be eating again. I'm a

699
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Speaker 1: big fan. I was I was a big fan of

700
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, but I i when I look at at

701
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones's rookie year based on what he had to

702
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: deal with and the players around him. I haven't seen

703
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: too many rookie quarterbacks play as well as he did.

704
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: And I know the fumbling was an issue, but he

705
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: made froze and did things that I that I just said, Wow,

706
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, I'm really excited to see him play. Combine

707
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: him with se Kwan Barkley. Um, maybe Darius Layton's built

708
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: upon his his year and Jeff got to get that

709
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: offensive line together, and and I wouldn't be surprised early

710
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: if they are a little bit more conservative on offense.

711
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Just those young offensive linemen get their feet underneath them,

712
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: because you just don't want Daniel Jones getting killed in

713
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: the first four weeks of the season. You just you

714
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: gotta protect him a little bit. Yeah, I'm with I

715
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: know I said final question, but you mentioned Daniel Jones,

716
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: so I guess we should dig into that just a

717
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: little bit. So final question now, Um, with Jones, I

718
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: think you hit it on the head and it was

719
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: such like a mix of greatness and just disaster. In

720
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: his first year. You have all those turnovers, whether it's

721
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: the fumbles or the interceptions, and then you had a

722
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: bunch of dropped interceptions. But then you had there's a

723
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Speaker 1: guy in his face, he's throwing on the pressure, he's

724
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 1: hanging in the pocket, he's completing a past, taking a

725
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: big hit, he makes a spectacular throw, He are a

726
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: spectacular throw there. And I think it's really just a

727
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: matter of him doing a few things, you know, protecting

728
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit better, most importantly, getting the

729
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: ball out a little bit quicker, which will come from

730
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: you know, processing a little bit faster, doing a better

731
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: job of reading those deep fences, which which which comes

732
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: with experience, comes with time. The way I put it

733
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: as this is that you've seen great play inside of him.

734
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: Now it's his job to you know, maintain as much

735
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: as he can some of those great plays. Now, some

736
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: of the go away that's okay, but he has to

737
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: limit the negative and the bad plays in the takeaways,

738
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: because you can make five great plays. If you make

739
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: three bad turnovers in the game, I don't care how

740
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: many great plays you make, your team's not gonna win.

741
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: So if he can just fine tune what I call

742
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: his risk management in terms of trying to you know,

743
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: limit the negative plays where maybe if he completes the past,

744
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: the benefits not great. And just understand, when's the appropriate

745
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: time that takes certain risks. When's the appropriate times to

746
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: squeeze a ball in when it's appropriate to hold the

747
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 1: ball a little bit longer. If he can get better

748
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: at those little things and instinctual things like ring the defense,

749
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, pocket presence, get rid of the ball quicker,

750
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: those are the things he needs to get better. I

751
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: don't see anything in his game that it's quote unquote broken.

752
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: And you see when the things do work, how effective

753
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: and productive he can be. Now, is there a guarantee

754
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: those things get get get fixed this season because of

755
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: a new system, new coach in whole offseason. No, there's not.

756
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: But I think there are clear things that if he

757
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: gets better at, and they're all possible to get better at,

758
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: you see how he can become that next franchise quarterback. Yeah,

759
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: and there there's a lot. There's not the unpacked there.

760
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: I'll try to keep it brief, but I agree with you.

761
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: I if you look at the determining factors and what

762
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: wins and loses football games, it's just still amazing that

763
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: the turnover ratio really is is a key figure. And

764
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: if you look at the game the game statistics that

765
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: after each contest and just go through what every every

766
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: statistical category. It's so important to win that turnover battle

767
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: because you only have so many possessions for football game,

768
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: and if you turn the football over, you're not only

769
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: losing that possession, you're often the other teams running the

770
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: other way with it for a touchdown. So that's a

771
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: huge thing. I I always bothers me a little bit

772
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: when people start arguing, well, you had a lot of

773
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: dropped interceptions. You can make that case with with any

774
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. So there are lots of interceptions

775
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: that get dropped by other people, by other quarterbacks. I hate,

776
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: I hate doing those those because then you can also say, well,

777
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: receivers didn't didn't bobble the football and got picked off,

778
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: or didn't drop a football. So I never liked adding those,

779
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, those what ifs. But I I look at

780
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: him and I see him make throws that When he

781
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: was coming out of college, we were told he he

782
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: wasn't good at One of the things I remember all

783
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: the scouting reports said on him was he wasn't very

784
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: accurate throwing the deep ball. And then from the very

785
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: first preseason game on, he threw a wonderful deep pass

786
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: um after deep pass where where I said he wasn't

787
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to do this, and that he

788
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: made plays. There was the one the one game where

789
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: it was fourth I forget, it was like fourth and

790
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: seven team and he threw h that that strike to

791
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: Tate in the end zone for a touchdown. I think

792
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Tate actually got hurt on that. And that's where I

793
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: mean he had guys in his face. I mean that

794
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: one's almost Phil Sims like he was. He was he

795
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna get crushed and he but he

796
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: knew he had to throw that football. And those are

797
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: the kinds of place where I just stood up and said, whoa,

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00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: I mean that that. You don't see a lot of

799
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: guys that do that. Now. One of the guys who

800
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: writes my game reviews, um um si. He's he's completely

801
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: on board with you on this. He he says, a quarterback,

802
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: if you have a quarterback, and he helps on us

803
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: all the time, and he likes Daniel Jones too, but

804
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: he says, what's going to determine Daniel jones ultimate fate

805
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: is the turn was because if you have a quarterback

806
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: that can't protect the football, he's not long for the

807
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: he's not long for this late. You just can't do that.

808
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: So he's a little bit more um reserve right now.

809
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't because he's still a little bit worried about

810
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: the turnovers. And I'm not saying I'm completely discounting them.

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00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: I just I'd be a lot more worried if Daniel

812
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: Jones was throwing interceptions left and right in the fumbling issue,

813
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: because a lot of by the way, the fumbles can

814
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: be fixed. Well, I know some of those fumbles again,

815
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: I know a want to sound like an excuse making

816
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: here either, but some of those fumbles he got rocked.

817
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean there were some plays where he got smashed

818
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: from the blind side. He wasn't holding on the ball

819
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: too long and in many instances, I mean there was

820
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: one play where somebody blew right up the two guys

821
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: blew right up the middle as soon as the ball

822
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: was snapped um and and and the blog got slapped

823
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: right out of his hand and they called it at

824
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Speaker 1: a fumble, And he said he didn't even have a

825
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: chance on that place. So again, if it happens again

826
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Speaker 1: this year he has as many fumbless as he did

827
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: last year, then were we have to start getting really

828
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: worried about this, but I would be. I said this

829
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Speaker 1: the other day too, I said, if Daniel Jones was

830
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: on another NFC East team, I'd be awfully worried right

831
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: now because when I look at him, I I see uh, excellent,

832
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: excellent quarterback. And if he was in Washington, or he

833
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: was in Philadelphia and Dallas, I'd be very worried right

834
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: now because from the eyeball test, when I see him

835
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: play the things that he's done as a rookie on

836
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: a team that did not have a running game much

837
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: of the year because Kuan was hurt, on an offensive

838
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: line that still couldn't block, and with the receiving corps

839
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: that was never together, and he's through four touchdown passes

840
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: and he had a couple of really amazing comebacks. Um.

841
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: I just thought that was a tremendous rookie season for him,

842
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: and I'm very very excited. I Mean, the two things

843
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to this year is watching him

844
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 1: develop and then seeing how the coaching staff um handles

845
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: his team. I'm really interested in. It's how Joe Judge

846
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 1: handles his team and his in the in the coaching

847
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: staff that he's put together. He's got a very very eclectic,

848
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: interesting coaching staff, and I'm with a lot of experience

849
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: and I'm very interested in seeing how that coaching the

850
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: performance as well too. Yeah, I'm with you, and I

851
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: think there are certainly a lot of reasons to be

852
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: optimistic with Daniel Jones. And we have David Carr on

853
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: our Wednesday Big Blue kick Off show, which you can

854
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: find up on on giants dot com folks if you

855
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: didn't check it out, and that I'll get posted on

856
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: the huddle too, and he basically said, you know, the

857
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: same type of stuff we're saying, the stuff that Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones needs to get needs to get better at. You

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Speaker 1: can get better at that and oftentimes quarterbacks do get

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Speaker 1: better at it with experience. So the opportunity is there,

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Speaker 1: the town is there. You know you mentioned the deep

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00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: ball to me, the stuff that jumped out to me. Eric.

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Speaker 1: I watched every single one of Daniel Jones throws that

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Speaker 1: was more than five seven yards down the field over

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Speaker 1: the course of the last month and a half, and

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Speaker 1: he's actually really good on like fifteen yards throws outside

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Speaker 1: the numbers where people thought coming out of school the

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Speaker 1: arm strength, he can't make those throws he throws it

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Speaker 1: accuracy and anticipation on those deep outs, and he can

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Speaker 1: make those throws. So I'm with you, Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: see anything that physically that's going to hold him back.

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Speaker 1: It's just a matter of whether he can en up

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Speaker 1: some of the mistakes. And you know, there's no reason

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Speaker 1: to think he can. Is there a guarantee it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. No, But I think there are certainly reasons

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Speaker 1: to hope that the Giants have on their roster their

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Speaker 1: next franchise quarterback for a long time. And I think

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Speaker 1: and he has the work ethic that's the sole key.

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Speaker 1: If you see him in the off season, just from

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Speaker 1: the social media accounts and and even the brief clips

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Speaker 1: we've seen from Giants dot Com at the early in camp,

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Speaker 1: in his work he's looks like he's in tremendous shape.

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Speaker 1: He was working out with the with the players, um

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Speaker 1: on his own in the off season. He was there.

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Speaker 1: There have been articles written on what he's going through

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Speaker 1: to you know, he's got all these drills to have

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Speaker 1: people try to knock the football out of his hand,

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Speaker 1: even noting through the movies where you know, there there's

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Speaker 1: an old movie the program this is the player had

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Speaker 1: to walk around and try and have the football knocked out.

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Speaker 1: He knows what, he knows what he's got to work on.

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Speaker 1: He knows, and he's going to do it. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of players in this league that don't do that.

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Speaker 1: They you know, they they talk a good game, but

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Speaker 1: they really aren't very hard working in the off season.

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Speaker 1: And he's he's a guy that he's he knows what

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Speaker 1: the problem is and he's going to he's gonna make

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Speaker 1: every effort to try to fix it. Now that I

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Speaker 1: mean it's going to get fixed, we don't know, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you give me a guy like him with

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Speaker 1: with the work ethic and the intelligence. And what I

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Speaker 1: thought was kind of funny too, was Joe Judge came

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Speaker 1: in and for for weeks and weeks he wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to mention the name of any player on the Giants roster.

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Speaker 1: Everybody was at an equal you know, everybody was an

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Speaker 1: equal status, no special treatment. He wouldn't even mention Barkley's name.

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Speaker 1: But the first time he mentioned anybody's name was Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: and he just gushed about him. So he went from

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Speaker 1: saying I'm not gonna say anything nice about anybody too.

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Speaker 1: While I'm really impressed with this kid. So even you

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00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: think Joe Judge saw something where he said, well, there's

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Speaker 1: something here, So I thought that was very telling to

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I think that's a perfect place

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Speaker 1: to leave it. Excellent stuff, my friend, one more time,

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Speaker 1: tell the phone where they can check out everything on

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Interactive. Yes, Big Blue Interactive dot Com is

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Speaker 1: the u r L And again we have a big

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Speaker 1: Giants community over there and loves talking football and when

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Speaker 1: they win, we sell off, celebrate, and when they lose,

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Speaker 1: where we're all over complaining. So to hang out. So

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Speaker 1: Eric Kennedy, Senior editor a Big Blue Interactive, Eric, great stuff,

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Speaker 1: my friends, stay safe. I hope you in the family.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's good and let's talking in down the road man,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll both be enjoying a very long football season. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you. That's Eric Kennedy from Big Blue Interactive bb

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Speaker 1: I make sure you go check it out. We thank

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Speaker 1: them for joining us on today's episode of the Giant

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Speaker 1: Subtle Podcast. Once again, I am John Schmilk. You can

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