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Speaker 1: This is Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous in Depth. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome to an episode of Almost Famous in Depth. Today

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Speaker 1: we're going to be talking to Ben Wah, who Ben

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Speaker 1: and I got to know on Bachelor Winter Games and

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Speaker 1: then that you guys also got to know better on

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Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise and he is Claire Crawley's former fiance,

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Speaker 1: so this is the perfect time to have him on.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Ben Wah, Hey, Ben, Hi, guys, how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: We're good? How are you so? If you noticed, I didn't,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say your last name because it's impossibly challenging.

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Speaker 1: Can you please um say your last name for us.

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Speaker 1: I could app you out so it's boom say it

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Speaker 1: after me. Boom boom see sere. Wow, It's good thing

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Speaker 1: I didn't have friendship. There's more. Yeah Bill boom zou.

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Speaker 1: That's good looking guy. Can't have a name like that.

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Speaker 1: That just make sure you even better looking at that's

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Speaker 1: frustrating for the Higgins. Remember these nights in Vermont, right,

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Speaker 1: I do man? I do well. Hey, it's really good

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Speaker 1: to have you here. And uh and actually I obviously

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Speaker 1: want to bring you on for obvious reasons. One, you're

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Speaker 1: you're a friend of ours that we haven't got to

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Speaker 1: catch up within a while. And two, uh, you do

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Speaker 1: have a deep and and and fairly recent connection to

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Speaker 1: the current Bachelor atte. There's a ton of things we

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Speaker 1: want to find out about how you're feeling and what

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Speaker 1: you think of the season and how clear is being portrayed.

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Speaker 1: Uh So what better time to do it than right

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Speaker 1: now with this podcast? Um. I think actually to start

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Speaker 1: this whole thing, we should get a little background of

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Speaker 1: beIN wa like, how did you end up on Winter Games?

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Speaker 1: Where did you come from? What's your past history here?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god? Okay, so four years ago I was

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Speaker 1: I was in here in Montreal and the summer lady

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Speaker 1: for Bachelorette Canada. So I was like, okay, what's this trick?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a scam at first, so I

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Speaker 1: wasn't sure. Then I end up showing at the audition.

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Speaker 1: So and back in the days, and my English was

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Speaker 1: so bad. Trust me. I like, right now, it's not

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Speaker 1: not too bad, but it was so bad back in

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Speaker 1: the days. And I end up making good depression and

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Speaker 1: get that triinal call to go on batch red Canada.

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Speaker 1: There this is where I met Kevin that actually knows

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Speaker 1: also a bunch of dudes that and after you know,

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Speaker 1: in Canada there's not much after a batchel of batchelrette

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Speaker 1: usually it's pretty much over. So um, three years ago ish,

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Speaker 1: some producer from the USA called me and uh they

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Speaker 1: uh to go onto a show with you guys that

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Speaker 1: you went to games. So I end up going on

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Speaker 1: these and uh and right after there was Paradise not

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Speaker 1: too long after, which I shouldn't have gone. But okay,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna question you about that in a second. What

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Speaker 1: drove you to say? Okay, it's that first audition in Canada.

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Speaker 1: Had you had any serious relationships in the past, were

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Speaker 1: you getting out of a serious relationship? Tell us what

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Speaker 1: ben Wa was like in his twenties. Okay, So when

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Speaker 1: when I set first step in there, um, I was

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Speaker 1: like ending a relationship of six years where she uh

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Speaker 1: finally uh and because she betrayed my trust, let's just

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Speaker 1: say that. And so I was a bit broken. It's

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Speaker 1: been like a year that I was single and then

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Speaker 1: I decided to when not giving a shot on this

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Speaker 1: be a good experience, and why not giving a shot

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Speaker 1: Uh in that crazy journey that was about Canada. So

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Speaker 1: I didn't and I didn't. I don't regret it because

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Speaker 1: was it was a really cool experience. You got pretty

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Speaker 1: also like Bachelor Bachelortte season, so so fun to travel

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Speaker 1: in Canada different than the Bachelor experiences you've had to

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Speaker 1: such close quarters. Uh, maybe a little of this, But

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Speaker 1: we were hanging out, like I would say at tongue times.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was during the day we were all together,

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Speaker 1: there was a bunch of dudes and the same. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about you girls, but for us, there was

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Speaker 1: Was it was? It was so you end up on

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Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, please disagree with me. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but you're you're you're a sensitive guy like you care,

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Speaker 1: you want to you want to find love deeply. Did

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Speaker 1: you fall in love with the Bachelorette during this Canadian

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Speaker 1: Bachelorette Jasmin, Yes, but I was I was falling for her,

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Speaker 1: it was like a little barrier that I put in myself,

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Speaker 1: like like because of them the past relationship I was

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Speaker 1: I was before, but you know what, like uh like yeah,

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Speaker 1: any regret about this. Canada loves the Bachelor franchise. You

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Speaker 1: own version with Jasmine, but it was basically a one off.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think that the show one produced in Canada,

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Speaker 1: like with Canadian only contestants. It just they don't seem

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Speaker 1: Uh Like our season was I would say really good.

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Speaker 1: Like the ratings were good. Everything was was good. But

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Speaker 1: these Bachelor shows. They would have big someone uh that

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Speaker 1: That makes a lot of sense. So let's then fast

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Speaker 1: fast forward. Obviously we have the Bachelor at Canada. You

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Speaker 1: start to fall, you make it a long ways. I

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Speaker 1: remember then you coming on to Winter Games and everybody

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Speaker 1: described you as the king of Montreal, that you knew

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Speaker 1: everybody in Montreal, that you're always uh you could always

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Speaker 1: it didn't happen because of COVID, but I was really interested.

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Speaker 1: me to do that. Oh interesting, very interesting. So let's

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Speaker 1: little bit um throughout this whole process. Well, ultimately, if

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Speaker 1: so like we we we kept through things like super private.

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Speaker 1: So on the show, there was a lot of things happening,

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Speaker 1: that that that's the tricky part about this. People don't

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Speaker 1: didn't understand why she just like backslash at me and

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Speaker 1: to be part of it. So because we we kept

431
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 1: like good friends since like over a year now like

432
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: almost a year and a half. We're talking like like

433
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. I would say, like one once

434
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: a week, once every two weeks, but like, uh, we're

435
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: still good friends after all of this, so uh I

436
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: it just blow my mind out, the skipness all bio

437
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: back part you like how we get to know Claire

438
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: for people who haven't seen like winter Games on our

439
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: season of Paradise and the show only like some of

440
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: the footage from her season which one Pablo and the

441
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: Paradise Park, so they didn't show it. So like that

442
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: you filmed all this at La Quinta for her no

443
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: in March before in Sacramento actually and then nothing got shown,

444
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: so like not none of it was air because I

445
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: don't remember this, but actually you obviously knew this somehow. Yeah,

446
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: people were it was all the talk. Everyone was talking

447
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 1: about how ben Wah was totally neglected from Claire's intro

448
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: on episode one, and they were like, she was engaged

449
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: to him, how can we talk and talk about him?

450
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: And then you came out saying that you had did

451
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: you did shoot something and that they cut it out.

452
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: Is there any reason that you think a good reason

453
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,640
Speaker 1: that they would cut it out or do you think

454
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: that they were just trying to focus on her being

455
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: on the bigger shows? Uh? You know what, I had

456
00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: my own opinion about this whole production, right, great, So

457
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: this is the time to share it. Thank you? Okay, Okay?

458
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: So guys, uh like Bachelor, uh, Bachelor VA, It's it's

459
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: a show. It's a business at first, y you know that?

460
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: So I I think if they want their own story

461
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: inline to make sense, they have to cut parts maybe

462
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: that she might look better than what they want to

463
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: to show to get the storylines like like straight. So

464
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: what I I just have to say, Like the talk

465
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: we had it was so funny, it was so refreshing,

466
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: and I was hoping that they were gonna show this

467
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: because it makes earth like, I don't know, like being

468
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: like a normal normal person that like she has some

469
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: good qualities. And right now, what what I what we've

470
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: seen like it's only like drama part and there's not

471
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: much of like serious stock to be you know, law

472
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: on us with you guys this season I haven't seen

473
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: except maybe you have Jason the first one on one day.

474
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: There wasn't that much like serious talking there is a

475
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: really deep person. She likes to get to know you

476
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: on a like on a really deeper level, which is

477
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: not showing at all. So I'm just thinking this, Yeah there,

478
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: I mean, there's you know, and I think that's fair. So,

479
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: uh but while I really want to get in um

480
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: to what you think of this season, I think it's

481
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: important because you do have a real perspective about Claire

482
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: that none of us have because you've been in an

483
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: intimate relationship with her. Um So I'm assuming she had

484
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: your blessing as the bachelorrette and like when you went

485
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: to talk to her, you were just like completely supportive

486
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: of this happening in her life, and you're ready for

487
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: that for yourself. Okay, so now she starts to the

488
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: Bachelorette and you just kind of hinted to it. You're

489
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: a little frustrated with how Claire is being shown, or

490
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: at least how this season is playing out. Why why

491
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: do you think, um, there is so little depth to

492
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: the season and why is there uh so many like

493
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: kind of just like more contentious moments except obviously with Dale.

494
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: Where do you think this is coming from? I feel

495
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: like the the old story, like you know, they filmed

496
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 1: that they show and after that they gotta make the

497
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: everything's gotta make sense. So I feel like they're talking

498
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: a lot about thels. But you know how producer are

499
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: when they ask you questions, uh in I t m s.

500
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: They want to get to know like specific stuff. So

501
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: if they're asking always like questions about bal, of course

502
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: she's gonna reply about Thel and they're gonna all gonna

503
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: focus on this. I like, to me, it makes sense

504
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: that she's talking a lot about the at the end

505
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: of this, I'm pretty sure they asked some questions about

506
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: other guys, but they don't. They don't that they don't

507
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: show that far. So this is where I'm just a

508
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: bit I would say, confused about how they they want

509
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: to portray things. But I get it, like it's a

510
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: show like the end is like with probably Dale, like

511
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: we've seen so far and they brought in another batch Rende,

512
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: so this whole thing to make sense. It's all about Dale,

513
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's more to it. And like a

514
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: lot of people, like for example, like when she called

515
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: him her fiance or something like that, A lot of

516
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: people were telling me, Bubba Ben why I feel like

517
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: they just cut up the ex fiance part and maybe

518
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: they made some jokes about you and that was like

519
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: not fair. So like there's no way she would have

520
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: called him like at that moment or like fiance. There's

521
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: like I know Claire and I know how she is,

522
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: and she's really like, uh, like she why would she

523
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: call him like her fiancing at that moment, especially at

524
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: that in that part because she's just like walking and

525
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: you can see like the back of her head, so

526
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: you cannot really leave on their on their rips, on

527
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: her lips. So it's it's it's weird a bit. This week,

528
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 1: she also had some drama with Zach, so she she

529
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: did wasn't vibe and Zack and then he kissed her

530
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: and she felt like it was very awkward, and people

531
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the fandom really debated this moment back and forth. Knowing

532
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: Claire better than any of us, probably, well, how do

533
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: you think she why do you think she handled the

534
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: situation the way she did? I just feel like the

535
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: physical contact that Zack made with her, and I'm not

536
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: talking about like the kids sort of like the smoothness

537
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: of it, but I just I just think like the

538
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: way he grabbed her, Uh, she was she was scre

539
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: and I would never grabbed the women like this when

540
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: she's just like there's like a confusion about the kiss

541
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: and something like that. Just let it go, man, just

542
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: like Okay, you're gonna have a second chance at the dinner.

543
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: But you kept like on grabbing her right wait wait,

544
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: And that for me that I was really aggressive from

545
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: his part. So I'm sorry, Zach, but like maybe, uh,

546
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: maybe if you were not like insisting that much, she

547
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: would have liked went to dinner and you can have

548
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: like some more champ but like, she has her past also, guys,

549
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind. And there's a lot of

550
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: footures that you guys haven't maybe shown so uh and seen.

551
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, that makes sense. And I think that's kind

552
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: of you know, she hinted at that during it and said, hey,

553
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: I've had a pass and this just kind of like

554
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: um triggered me or kind of brought back memories and

555
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: that's why I'm reacting the way I am now. But

556
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: while you take producers out of this for a second,

557
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: mm m, and like just you know, we're watching Claire

558
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,719
Speaker 1: story and and most of the season's uh, they do

559
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: play out in in a similar way or at least

560
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: a storyline that is making sense to how this you know,

561
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: the how the seasons playoffs. To take the process out

562
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: it for a second, are you seeing Claire in this

563
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: season or are you watching somebody that you don't even recognize? Uh,

564
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: I would say, I this is not the Claire that

565
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: I know. This is uh and I can I can

566
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: feel like, like put put yourself into her shoes. I mean,

567
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: you're you're doing Crowning quarantine in a resort. It's already

568
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: like initials are a bit mind fun. You've been there,

569
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: and it's just like it's a lot to manage. And

570
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I feel like at some point, maybe she was overwhelmed

571
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: by all of this. Uh she she felt like super

572
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: strong feelings with Dell and then this whole thing played out.

573
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: But this is not the Claire that I used to know.

574
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: But then again, a lot of things are happening in

575
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: her life and uh like it's not easy for for her,

576
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: especially like right now, but it wasn't back in the

577
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: day being on the show. So yeah, there's a there's

578
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: a little difference between the Claire that I like that

579
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: was shown on TV than the Claire that I know

580
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: in real life. So you then shocked that she felt

581
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: so hard for Dale, like right away, Like, is this

582
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: knowing her and knowing how she loves and knowing her

583
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: desire for lover, you surprised that she was like all

584
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: I set on Dale, Like, I feel like she's just

585
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: so passionate, Like she knows what she wants and when

586
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: she sees something. Uh, maybe like if the show like

587
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't brought Dale, I feel like she would be more,

588
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: she would get to know more of the guys, but

589
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: like she had a big crush on Dale, and she

590
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: like at the beginning, she was still open to getting

591
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: to know the other guys, but I feel like feelings

592
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: were growing so fast for her in that situation. That's

593
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: where she maybe got caught in uh, in those feelings

594
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 1: with Dale's I actually, and I've talked about this a

595
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: few times, but I've wondered through this season, if Dale

596
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: wasn't there, if she would have the same reaction to

597
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: somebody else that was there, Like, because just how much

598
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: she wants to find love, how passionate she is, if

599
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: her eyes had been set on one of these other guys,

600
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: and because she just you know, she isn't made, which

601
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of us are. I don't

602
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: think any of us are. But she hasn't made to

603
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: date multiple people at one time, especially when she's feeling

604
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: something for somebody. I know. Actually I've talked about this

605
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: and it's something that we we've we've been curious about. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Uh.

606
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be it would have been

607
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 1: a total different uh season if they wasn't there. But

608
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: then again, like what can we do? I mean, like,

609
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: she's really into the guy, and I just hope, like

610
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: it's going to be the best decision that that she's

611
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: ever made. But at least, like people want like real

612
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: person on the show, So she has been real from

613
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: the beginning. She's absolutely feelings for for him, So we

614
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: cannot blame someone for like being true to themselves and

615
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: not pretending on or faking other relationship. Uh. Like she's

616
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: listening to her gut, she's listening to these feelings, and

617
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean like she she's she's still doing great. Ben,

618
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: what um, we can assume at this point that she

619
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: does leave the show and Tasia comes in to replace her.

620
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: How do you think that decision came about? Knowing Claire?

621
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: Do you think that this is her saying, like, you know,

622
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: what this process isn't for me going off of what

623
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: you and Ben just discussed, or do you think that

624
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: something else happened. I feel like production they realized and

625
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: I've read something about it. Um what was it? It

626
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: was maybe Robert Mills that said that I don't wanna

627
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: be wrong about this, but um, like at the point

628
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: where she didn't give that rose on the group date

629
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: and she was like really into Dale's production, they were

630
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: they were looking for another bacherette. So I think like

631
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: ultimately it was production that came at her and just

632
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: like said, you know what, Claire, I feel you're not

633
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: giving a fair chance really into Dale, so we want

634
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: you to be happy. And they had like a common

635
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: I would say, agreement on her maybe leaving the show,

636
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: but I feel like she was like it wasn't like

637
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: her ultimate decision. Have you discussed Have you discussed anything

638
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: with her after she's finished filming? Uh? Yes, actually, like

639
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: we we spoke two days ago or maybe yesterday, but

640
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: she's not allowed to say anything because of the contracts.

641
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: But I feel like this is a lot right now

642
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: for her, So um, I'm I'm just being supportive and

643
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: she's I'm not allowed to say anything but I don't.

644
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: I think she's really happy on how the edit was turned,

645
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: was was made um, but once again like, uh, it's

646
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 1: what you signed for, so I guess like it's production,

647
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: it's a business, and that's it. Now. We can't forget

648
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: you in this process, right, somebody you loved you're watching

649
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 1: on television. Yeah, and you're a great dude, a bigger

650
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: man than me. How are you dealing with all this?

651
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: What are your hopes in this? And how are you

652
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: feeling watching this? I just hope, like I told her,

653
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: like whoever you're gonna pick, I want to be able

654
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: one day to meet that guy and just to shake hands,

655
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: get to know that person and wish you the best

656
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: of luck. And even though like it didn't work out

657
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: between me and her, it's not it's it's it's gonna

658
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: be a friendship forever. So I'm just I just hope

659
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: at the end of this, when this is like all

660
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: this roller coaster would would end for uh, that she

661
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: she can find like some happiness with all of this

662
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: and with the man of her dream. So this is

663
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: what I'm wishing for, and I'm gonna support her and

664
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: if she needs to talk, if she needs, like someone

665
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: to uh to understand what she went True, I mean

666
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I went through this, uh this

667
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: experience also so I can relate. Has Claire been as

668
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: um supportive of you and other relationships as you've been

669
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: to her, because it seems like you guys you really

670
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: have been involved in each other's romantic lives as friends.

671
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: So has there have you ever gone to her for

672
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: girl advice? Uh? True? Actually, like we've we've getten touch

673
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: and I've dated this some some women, and I was

674
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: asking for advice. I was telling your like, oh, this

675
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: is all going well, and and I was giving news

676
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: about about this whole thing. Uh like of course it's

677
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: not involving bachelor like on my side. So she's being supportive. Um,

678
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: but we're still friends, so we're still like giving news

679
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: about like what's happening, and if there's any advice she

680
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: would she would help me out. I think this is awesome.

681
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: I mean the way you guys are handling this. And

682
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: that was a big question for me coming on. You know,

683
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: we didn't know how you guys are as you know,

684
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: as friends or if you even have a friendship, or

685
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: a few guys are like the worst enemies that you know,

686
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: but it's really cool to hear how supportive you are

687
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: of um, the two of each other. So we're coming

688
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: up now to another week. It could be you know,

689
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: I think we're assuming that, you know, Claire does leave

690
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: that Um there's a new Bachelor that comes in. Do

691
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: you know? Do you do you can you even predict?

692
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: Do we just kind of like it's Claire just gone?

693
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: Or do we get to follow her story? Um? Do

694
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: you hope that we follow her? Sort of like what's

695
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: next in and Claire season of The Bachelor? At I

696
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: feel like there's gonna be more like we all like

697
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: heard some spoilers that she might be engaged to one guy,

698
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: which most likely would be Dale Jason. Yeah, so of

699
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: course they're they're gonna keep us in touch about like

700
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: what's with the Claire has been wading through, and I

701
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: think it would be like a to two season that

702
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: at once at one point. So hopefully we're gonna see

703
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: how it all unfold for the for these two, but like,

704
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: I feel like it would be interesting to watch how

705
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: it unfold for t Asia but also for Clear at

706
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: the end of this because this is not like the

707
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: end of her of Urn Dales know I like, I

708
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: like what you may have previewed there for us. I agree,

709
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: it would be very strange if they're just like, Okay,

710
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: you two get off the cameras now. I do hope

711
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: that they keep them around at least at La Quinta

712
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: for a while and give us like ten minutes an

713
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: episode about how their week has gone. He better leave

714
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: with her, like he better, we hinted last week on

715
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: the podcast and while like, uh, we had a guest

716
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: on America and she had said, like, what if he

717
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: doesn't go, Like what if he just does to stay

718
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 1: and he wants to pursue Tasha. I was sitting after

719
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: the podcast thinking about that comic because I had never

720
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: even thought about that until she said it, and at

721
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: the time and we all laughed because we're like, it'd

722
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 1: be crazy, it's great TV. And I was like, that sucks. No,

723
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,799
Speaker 1: he better go with her, because if not, he has

724
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: led that girl on the whole time and that's not fair.

725
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: So like, I'm gonna hope and assume that Dale walks

726
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: off this show with her as tatious steps in. He

727
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: would be the biggest villain of all time with oh yeah, definitely,

728
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, no, I would I would be fist. We

729
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 1: thought we were talking in that in u uh in March.

730
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: Back in March and me and her, I told her

731
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: and if there's any guys missing up with you, just

732
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: call me and I'll come over. And they're asked to

733
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: be honest, like, I don't want you to get hurt

734
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: in this. This is the lead, the last thing that

735
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: I wanted. So that's so sweet of you. Um, well,

736
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: since you guys have been in touch since March and

737
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: you probably were a little bit in touch during quarantine

738
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: when she was able to see these guys for the

739
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: first time, did she ever make mention to you that

740
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: she thought that Dale was the cutest, that she was

741
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: most excited to meet him. No, she didn't make any

742
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: comments about like the guys. I feel like she wasn't

743
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: really like it's a special season, like he Normally you

744
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: don't get to see who who's going on onto your show.

745
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: Like then, imagine you would have liked had I don't

746
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: know all the names and the profile of everyone that's

747
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: going through your season, you would you would check admit it. Yeah,

748
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: I definitely would have appreciated that, and like this this

749
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: is one thing, so like I'm pretty sure like she

750
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: already like looked them up before, but she wasn't allowed

751
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: to say anything, and she didn't mention anything about like

752
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: who she was more attracted to or something like that.

753
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: I think she she she wanted to give a fair

754
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: shot to everyone. Do you think that they spoke before

755
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: the show, because everybody, well, I don't want to say everybody.

756
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: A lot of people seem to think that the two

757
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: of them chatted before the show. The more I watched

758
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: this season, the more I think it truly was a

759
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: spontaneo like a feeling that she got in the moment

760
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: that it was love at first sight. But I think

761
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: that a lot of people will still continue with the

762
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: thought that they talked beforehand because it was just seemed

763
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: like such an instantaneous chemistry. I don't I to be honest,

764
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I want to believe her when

765
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: she said it was only Blake that reached out to

766
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: her and maybe like a guy like like wrote to her.

767
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: But like at the end of this, I think it

768
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: all like played out the first night when he stepped

769
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: out the limmo and like there was all these sparks

770
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: in her eyes. So um hopefully yes, I mean, like

771
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: she does. She doesn't tell me these kind of things,

772
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: but she's not allowed too. So anyways, I don't tell

773
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: I don't tell my ex those type of things either.

774
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: I think we just I don't blame her. Ben, while

775
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: you're a good man, and uh, it's really great to

776
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: catch up with you and here about your You're just

777
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 1: your admiration and and care for Claire. Still, I want

778
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: to take a break when we come back, been what

779
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: I want to hear about what you're up today? Uh,

780
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: kind of what you're what's going on in your life?

781
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: Give you the stage for a second. We do every

782
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: in depth podcast. Uh, so we'll come back with Ben Wah,

783
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: Claire's ex fiance but good friend, on the almost famous

784
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: in Debt podcast. Ben, when we knew you when you

785
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: were on Jasmine season, you were a restaurant manager, right, Yeah,

786
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: multiple restaurants in Montreal exactly. So I'm the my director

787
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: of three restaurants and the banquet of the hotel Plasta

788
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: arm So there's one rooftop bar, there is one um,

789
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: a French cuisine restaurant that I was talking with the

790
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: then when we were on the bus up to the

791
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: skating rank back in Clermont and we were. I'm also

792
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: a director of a Japanese that, yeah, a restaurant and bar.

793
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: And is that what you're still doing today? Are you

794
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: still actively working at those places? Yeah, yea, yeah, I'm

795
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: actually in the private room of the French quizzing restaurants.

796
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: So and you know, am I enjoying the restaurants? Like? Actually,

797
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: I know Jared worked in restaurants, am I right? Yes? Yes,

798
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 1: he u managed restaurants for a couple of years before

799
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: going to the show, and it's his dream to open

800
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 1: up a restaurant or bar of his own. So we

801
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: are in that first stage of its just just exploring

802
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: that idea. Okay, good, good good. I mean, like I

803
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: feel like him, have a lot of the things that

804
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: are come in. But first of all, I just want

805
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: to congratulate both a few guys the engagement then and

806
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: for the wedding for you. Actually a lot of things

807
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: happened since the past three years, but I'm glad that

808
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: you guys are alright a good place right now. So yes,

809
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I'm still living living in Montreal, um doing working a lot.

810
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: It's not super easy. The pandemic in here. They had

811
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,240
Speaker 1: to close restaurants and dining rooms Uh, it's been almost

812
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: like a month. Uh, and we're good doing another month

813
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: of closing and the restaurants, but we're doing takeouts and

814
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: delivery at the Japanese our restaurants, or at least we're

815
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: still making some revenues. But it's not it's not the

816
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: same as with the pandemic and before before what was

817
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: it before? Back in days? Are you dating? Are you?

818
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: Are you in love? Yeah? I'm actually seeing someone right now.

819
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: So for me. She she she she's the one and

820
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: she's super sweet. Her name is Mode. Uh. She's the

821
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: owner of a dance student you uh in here in

822
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: in Montreal area. So um yeah, I mean like she's

823
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 1: a she's a great girl and I actually can see

824
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: her in my last post on Instagram is it my

825
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: last post? But she's I was looking your Instagram before

826
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: this and I don't remember seeing her hold on. So um,

827
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: she like the drone the drone video that I made,

828
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Like she's the lady beside me. So she is. So

829
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm assuming this is a relatively new relationships since you

830
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: were running, um in the running for Summer Games. Yeah, exactly.

831
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: So the casting for Summer Games was around the February

832
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: and March and like, yeah, I've been dating her for

833
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: a few months already, so it has been great so far.

834
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: So hopefully I'm not gonna you ever go back on

835
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: on any of these shows, but you know, you know

836
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: we we're hoping for the best. It brought you good friendship, man,

837
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: and Uh, if anything, these shows have done that for me,

838
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: and I know they've done that for you. We've just

839
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: heard a whole podcast about your friendship with Claire and

840
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: it's really refreshing and good to hear and also awesome

841
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: to hear your support of her. Ben wa every in

842
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: depth episode. Uh, Ashley has a really special thing that

843
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: she loves to do. It's one of my favorite moments

844
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: of the podcast. Uh, it's super easy. You're off the

845
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: hot seat until my final question. But Ashley, this is

846
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: your time take it away alright. So it's just basically

847
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 1: rapid fire a whole bunch of fun questions. I'm gonna

848
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: start with, what's your favorite dish at one of your restaurants? Uh?

849
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Definitely me Geary. Uh, how much you won? So it's

850
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 1: a yellow from Tuna. It's delicious. I can't go wrong

851
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: with tuna. I love tuna. What is something in Canada

852
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: that Americans don't have that we totally need to adapt.

853
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: You don't have do you have putine? Do you do

854
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: you think you have putine? That would be my answer

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Speaker 1: coming because of us, it's not common. I think that's

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Speaker 1: becoming a little bit more frequent on menus, like they're

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Speaker 1: trying to be trendy and adding it. But what's your

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Speaker 1: favorite type? Um? I know that, like what's the standard poutine?

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Speaker 1: And then what is your favorite type of foutine? Because

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Speaker 1: I know that you guys have a vast variety. Now okay, good,

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Speaker 1: so uh, the classic one would be some French fries,

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Speaker 1: some gravy, and some nice fresh cheese skirts. But you

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Speaker 1: can always like tricket my favorite, I like like some

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Speaker 1: duck comfeet on top of it. Maybe if you can

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Speaker 1: switch the potatoes for sweet potato French fries and switch

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Speaker 1: a gravy for like a pepper peppercorn sauce instead, so

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Speaker 1: you can always like play with that. That's a funny

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Speaker 1: thing about that putine. You can always tweak it your

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Speaker 1: own weight. But the cheese skirts are must alright, alright,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like a nap to me sort of absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What was your favorite event at Winter Games? Oh, I

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Speaker 1: think I think that the cross country skiing was the

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Speaker 1: most inserting one. Right, we had to shoot the paintball,

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Speaker 1: probably the easiest one. Yeah, it was tough for so

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Speaker 1: many people. I I remember that, but it wasn't easy.

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Speaker 1: But it was probably the easiest because after that we

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Speaker 1: had to go the downhill skiing, where I was truly like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is the part of the contract that says I

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00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: signed my life away. I remember you on the on skates, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: and you were doing good. Thank you. You're very sweet.

881
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: At least you were trying right, you were doing your best. Yeah. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what who was your first kiss? Describe your first kiss?

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Speaker 1: Who was my first kiss? Wow? In my whole life?

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00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: Her name was uh, was me Lan? And that was

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Speaker 1: my she was my first girlfriend, if my memory is right,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I remember because I was wrong, I think, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're you're drunk with your first kiss. So how old

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Speaker 1: are you? I don't know, maybe, uh, maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen, I I don't remember. No, Actually it was old.

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Speaker 1: It was an old first kiss, like I was. I

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Speaker 1: was nineteen. So it's okay, yeah, yeah, makes everybody feel better. Okay, lastly,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite movie. Uh, oh, my god, I don't know,

893
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: because it's all we I feel like, yeah, some of

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00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: the all the weeen movies are pretty good. Maybe Ocus

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Speaker 1: Focused because when I was young, like yeah, I did

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Speaker 1: at that time of the year. I feel like Ocus

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Speaker 1: Focus is one of my my best memories of all movies.

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00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Very nostalgic. Yeah, really alright, been while here's my time

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Speaker 1: with you. It's the final thing in the podcast. You're

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Speaker 1: almost done. You've been great. We appreciate you. We'd like

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00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: to give you the stage. Um for anybody out there listening, Um,

902
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: what message do you have on your heart right now?

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00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: For anybody that you just like to share? You take

904
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Speaker 1: thirty seconds a minute. I don't have twenty minutes for

905
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: you to do this, So prittlease keep it like reasonably short.

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Speaker 1: The stages your has been wah, what would you like

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Speaker 1: to share with anybody listening? Uh. To be honest with you, guys,

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Speaker 1: I just want everybody to keep in mind this old

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Speaker 1: batch or franchise and stuff. Uh, they're like I said,

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Speaker 1: it's it's a business. There's a lot of anything. There's

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: a lot of like what you guys haven't seen, so uh,

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00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 1: and keep always in perspective, there's there's someone, there's a

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00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: human that whenever you're doing like some comments on social

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Speaker 1: media's and stuff that is probably gonna like seeing somehow

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00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: or maybe not, but like there might be a human

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00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: hurt or affected by your comments. So just always be

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00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: nice and respectful through everything you say, because like, uh,

918
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of things that you guys haven't

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00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: seen and that you guys know some like some of

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00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: the people they like, you know, Ben, you know, actually

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Speaker 1: they tend to to get like they know you a

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Speaker 1: hundred percent of you. But you just like I saw

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00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: a few of the clips of you on the internet.

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00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: It's so frustrating. It's it's frustrating. So just guys, whoever

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Speaker 1: is listening to this, like, just be nice to people.

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Speaker 1: But there's always like a human behind all of this

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Speaker 1: that is going through maybe some tough times, maybe some

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Speaker 1: good times, maybe some bad times also, So please just

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Speaker 1: be nice. And there's no way for hate, for racism,

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00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 1: for like whatever like disrespect you can you can imagine,

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Speaker 1: So just just be nice. Guys. You love that. That

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Speaker 1: was a great way to wrap up the podcast. Thanks

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Speaker 1: you're the man. Hey, follow our lead here. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: start you'll catch on fast. This has been an in

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Speaker 1: depth episode with Ben Wah from Bachelor ro Games, Bachelor

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Speaker 1: at Canada and also Bachelor in Paradise. I've been been,

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Speaker 1: I've been Ashley amazing. Thanks and we bye. Thank you guys,

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Speaker 1: it was a pleasure. Seudy. Follow the Benn and Ashley

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Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast on iHeart Radio or subscribe wherever

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Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts.