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Speaker 1: Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered may not be

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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered. Patriots Unfiltered, the world's original podcast. Paul thinks

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Speaker 1: that they may have scripted it a little bit to

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Speaker 1: make the offense feel good about themselves. That I like

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Speaker 1: that interesting. I think I didn't say just looking and

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Speaker 1: looking and waiting and waiting tucks the ball runs around.

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Speaker 1: I think it was there. Yeah, I said, trust what

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Speaker 1: you said. It's easy for me to say from the

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Speaker 1: red level, right, you know mine. I love the banter

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Speaker 1: and find Paul to be the wittiest of you all. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot. Hester wrong must be from mains as

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Speaker 1: a life along. What about little Jordan Humphrey's little one

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Speaker 1: of those teams is going to finish in fourth in

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Speaker 1: the AFC West? Yeah, and be like, what what happened?

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Speaker 1: For some kind of analysis you only get from Michael Shot?

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Speaker 1: Are you going to continue the camp casts? Like? No, No,

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Speaker 1: we decided to shoot. We're gonna only only half a camp.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do white. Paul gets very defensive when anyone

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Speaker 1: asked him, are you gonna be doing any work. It's

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Speaker 1: very defensive. Well, James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan

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Speaker 1: in the world, says Jesus, couldn't you have replaced Eric

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Speaker 1: with even years ago? This is Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It seems like forever

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Speaker 1: in a day that we've had a normal show. I

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Speaker 1: had a normal time. Right, it's been a minute, as

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Speaker 1: I could say, it's deuced. It's Tamara, right, Matt, it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's me. It's Matt in the booth, and we'll be

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Speaker 1: here for the next two hours talking Patriots, summing up

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Speaker 1: the joint practices with the Panthers, getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: preseason game tomorrow night. Got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We do catch up. It is strange that we don't

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Speaker 1: have like it's been a while. Yeah, I've had a

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Speaker 1: regular just hanging out twelve o'clock to our regular show.

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Speaker 1: It's like last Tuesday. Maybe that's early, but anyway. Um,

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Speaker 1: So we just get done with two joint practices with

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers. I'd say that they were eventful. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, we might have learned a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Um and um, I think you know we're ready. I'm

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Speaker 1: ready for the season. Let's go. Yeah, but I've seen enough.

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Speaker 1: I've seen enough totally with friend, let's just go, let's go,

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Speaker 1: I know. And it's as as you kind of looked

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Speaker 1: forward to the preseason game tomorrow night, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to see? When I'm kind of

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Speaker 1: with you, it's like, no matter what you see tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: how much truth are you really gonna learn? I mean,

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Speaker 1: there certainly might be some players who pop, and that'll

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Speaker 1: be great, but it's hard to carry anything over that

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Speaker 1: you're realpecially after listening to Matt Roll a little bit yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be all back up for say, it's already

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Speaker 1: come out and said, we're not playing our start. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's either gonna be yeah, well they did it,

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Speaker 1: but they did it against the backups, or oh they

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Speaker 1: couldn't even do it against the backups. Those are the

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Speaker 1: I listened to Bill Belichick completely tell me how useless

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Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Phil Perry, you know, sort of threw

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Speaker 1: of observing practice. Oh that was hilarious, very very assured

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Speaker 1: fight in pretty much every one of them. Yeah, every

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Speaker 1: there's been some kind of fight. I never saw what

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Speaker 1: And I think that the Carolina Panthers came in thumping

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Speaker 1: Grace on like second reps, it still felt like he

425
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Speaker 1: was rotating in. I thought some of that was overstated

426
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Speaker 1: out there, but still, if you had to guess, it

427
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Speaker 1: looks like the main group is Parker, Agilore Myers and

428
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Speaker 1: I would always ask the people that were making a

429
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Speaker 1: big deal of the second team thing with Born Yesterday's like,

430
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Speaker 1: have you watched the rest of camp because that's where

431
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Speaker 1: I think it's been. We you know, we talked about

432
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Speaker 1: it at length yesterday on the show. Yeah, you know,

433
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Speaker 1: and Tamara talked about it, and I think if you

434
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Speaker 1: you know, I remember everyon had that sort of breakdown

435
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 1: of everything that sort of happened with Kendrick Bourne, and

436
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,880
Speaker 1: he brought up Fred. I thought this was a really

437
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 1: good point by the new guy, going to give the

438
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Speaker 1: new guys some Fredd of here. He brought up him

439
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 1: talking to Mike Reeves about the changes to the offense,

440
00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: which it generally thinks that they don't like. Yeah, and

441
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,159
Speaker 1: what have we seen since in camp? A very quiet

442
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: camp for Kendrick Bourne. Yeah, except for when he got

443
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 1: kicked out the first day. That was maybe the you know,

444
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: the most notable thing. I mean, he's made some catches

445
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: here and there, but yeah, he hasn't been terrible, but

446
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 1: I think he's been generally it's been Agalore, Myers and

447
00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:23,880
Speaker 1: Parker well, but last by one last summer, Born really

448
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,440
Speaker 1: didn't emerge until later. And yeah, that's what we talked

449
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: about that yesterday. He could be a late starter, you know,

450
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Speaker 1: you know, certainly possible. He's definitely more of like an

451
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: in game type of guy where you see him really

452
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 1: show up in a game, but not so much at practice. Yeah,

453
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: but it's like it might be one of those guys.

454
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: I just think all those guys we've listed have had

455
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Speaker 1: some wow moments during camp and there hasn't been a

456
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Speaker 1: wow moment for Trenck. And I just feel like Born

457
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of production in individual games last year.

458
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee was one of them. I think Dallas

459
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: was one of the Browns. Maybe you know, maybe maybe

460
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Speaker 1: the Browns was another one, And I don't think that

461
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Speaker 1: he was necessarily. They're kind of guy like, well, I

462
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm getting from Kendrick bo Like I think

463
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: they know what they're getting from Jacobe Myers all the time. Yeah,

464
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: because he's extremely consistent. And some games they were it

465
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Speaker 1: was a it was an Agalo game. Some games it

466
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Speaker 1: was a Born game. I don't know if they want that, yeah,

467
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Speaker 1: they you know, unless it's just like that game plan

468
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Speaker 1: kind of thing and they don't and they, you know,

469
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Speaker 1: the guys are doing exactly what they need them to do,

470
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Speaker 1: don't the way the other team plays, it's going to

471
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Speaker 1: be more featured with Kendrick Bow. I don't think they

472
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Speaker 1: care like, oh, it's this guy's game or that guy's game.

473
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Speaker 1: They just care when we do go to you, you

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Speaker 1: make the play. Well, that's what that's what I mean. Yeah,

475
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Speaker 1: that's what I mean. If it's a game plan thing

476
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Speaker 1: and the other team dictated that Agalo got more targets

477
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Speaker 1: this week, that they're fine with that. Yeah. I think

478
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Speaker 1: the interesting question in my mind is who do we

479
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 1: think at this point it's going to play more him

480
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: or Taekwon Thornton, you know, like like Thornton's been promising

481
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: they're both kind of that fourth receiver type or is

482
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Speaker 1: it going to be kind of a rotation And we

483
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: kind of thought it was going to be Agalore, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: with the speed kind of a guy, you know, with Thornton,

485
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: I just think that Thornton continues to look the part,

486
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: like he continues to get open, he continues to make plays,

487
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: and he continues to get better. He doesn't look like

488
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: this raw rookie that you know. Now we'll see, we'll

489
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: see what happens when the games start if he can

490
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 1: make plays with frontline corners covering him and you know

491
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,920
Speaker 1: and all that when he's getting attention. But in practice,

492
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: I think he continues to get better. By the way,

493
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: we should mention breaking news the NFL and the NFLPA

494
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: reached a game an agreement on Deshaun Watson eleven games

495
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: and a five million dollars five so up from previously

496
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: was six. I think, so almost doubled it. I think.

497
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think a lot of people thought he'd

498
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Speaker 1: get a full season, so it's maybe felt like he

499
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,199
Speaker 1: already did at eleven games. But you know, you're not

500
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Speaker 1: going to come in on gate week twelve to start,

501
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: you know, the last like what six weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: He would if I was, well, it depends on what's

503
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Speaker 1: going on, Like, I mean, unless your Kobe Brissette has

504
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: like an out of body experience that I'm not anticipated, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he would start for me in a week twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if they're going to go after Jimmy g

507
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: or they did something like that. Yeah, yeah, they know.

508
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah a lot of people have said that, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: I mean it's almost one years stop gap. Yeah, I

510
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: wonder how interested Jimmy would be in that. Uh, I

511
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: guess a job's a job, though, right, Yeah, I mean

512
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Speaker 1: at this point a chance to start, Yeah, Like, I mean,

513
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Speaker 1: how many places would he get traded to that he

514
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Speaker 1: would definitively be the starter? Like you know, the way

515
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Speaker 1: he I would hope he be thinking about, is I

516
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 1: do a good job there and you know, next scare

517
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: him with another team. But I've proven that I can

518
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: play no matter where. You know, it's just a it's

519
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Browns fans of of having a

520
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: we keep in dealing with this stuff forever and now

521
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: you you know, like you have to root for this guy,

522
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: Like it was hard enough for me when we got

523
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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and having a like kind of play both

524
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Speaker 1: sides of the fence on that one. I'm like, yeah,

525
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: I want him, but he's a you know, a terrible guy,

526
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Speaker 1: and I don't know, it's just as hard as a fan,

527
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Speaker 1: I think, to to resign yourself to rooting for a

528
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: guy that certainly doesn't seem like he's very We've done

529
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: it many times, you like, you don't know what these

530
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: guys are, like the only difference with this one is

531
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 1: you his his transgressions are public and everybody knows. But

532
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 1: I get. I mean, I I don't want guys that

533
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: are you know, I don't want like domestic abusers on

534
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Speaker 1: my team. These are pretty consistent with me, Freddie, Like

535
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Speaker 1: that's one I can't overlook um, and you know I

536
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: did the DUIs and stuff like that like that. This

537
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: is when you're you're really crossing over, especially when we

538
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: have Uber there's so many has a program where they

539
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: have car services for these guys. Oh well, they never

540
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 1: have to drive. It's like, you know, one of my

541
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Speaker 1: favorite players in the league to watch is Alvin Kamara.

542
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara supposedly is not going to be getting suspended

543
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: for this season, like he's got a domestic abuse that.

544
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I look at that as being I mean,

545
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't I think what Deshaun Watson did is despicable.

546
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: Like I think that, you know, everybody, everybody's weight in.

547
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there's like the Pro there's there's only

548
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: cons right, no one, no one's defending, nobody's winning. Yeah,

549
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: I think what Kimara is accused of is a lot

550
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: worse than what Watson is and supposedly he's going to

551
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: be able to play. So I don't know how the

552
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: league does these things. I don't know how they dole

553
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: out the punishment what they do. To me, it's all

554
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: about the public perception, especially hard with the quarterback who's

555
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: the face of your franchise and just everything kind of

556
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: goes through that person, you know, and that's the face

557
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: of your franchise. That's that's you know when we talk

558
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: so much about Mac, it's just such a key part

559
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: of the game. So it's just constantly in the forefront.

560
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: It's maybe a little easier to sweep aside when you know,

561
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: a different position, but yeah, it's just, uh, there's so

562
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: many guys though around the league, you know, Hill and

563
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: Joe mixing and like, you know, this one's not going

564
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Speaker 1: to play now. This is gonna be two almost two

565
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Speaker 1: full years. He's going to miss out of his career.

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson all right, eight five five paths five hundred

567
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: is the A sticket hot line, web radio at Patriots

568
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: dot com is the email address. So tomorrow night, we've

569
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: got the preseason game against the Panthers, and you wonder

570
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: if there's still bad blood and maybe that might be

571
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Speaker 1: why Rule said I'm not playing my starters. I think

572
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: it was the plan. Yeah, okay, that's yeah, they're they're

573
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: a little bank. They have some guys coming back and

574
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: they got a ton of work. Um because it was

575
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: all Mayfield and Donald. Yeah, it sounds like Mayfield's gonna

576
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Speaker 1: be the starter too, which I guess. I I think he's.

577
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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he was better than Donald. Yeah,

578
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: they neither one of them were good. They were both bad.

579
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Speaker 1: They did get better after I after, after I made

580
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: fun of them, you know, they both they both got better.

581
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: Darnald made a throw in the two minute drill yesterday.

582
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: That was the best throw I think I saw in

583
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Speaker 1: the two days. Like I think if he tried that

584
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Speaker 1: throw one hundred times, that was the only time he

585
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Speaker 1: was completing. That was an amazing throw. Yeah, but not

586
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: not a lot of consistency for those two guys in

587
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: terms of in terms of their accuracy, like just all

588
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: over the spraying consistently high with his throws. Yeah. And

589
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: one thing too, just to point out, the Patriots reportedly

590
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: did make a signing of an undrafted rookie, Jalen Widermeyer

591
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: Nina Mayer wider miner Um. So he uh with position

592
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: is a tight end. So depth issues you've had, Dalton

593
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 1: Keene hasn't been healthy. Do you have word on Hunter Henry?

594
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 1: There was from minor from Jeff Howe saying mine mind. Uh,

595
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: so we'll see um. But but he's he's a big

596
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: guy six four two sixty at sixteen receiving touchdowns in college. Um,

597
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: you know, just had a real bad last year, didn't

598
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: really do anything. So he was just cut by Buffalo

599
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: UM a couple of days ago. So that's a little

600
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: bit of a depth. Remember when the AFC East teams

601
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: would take our scraps. Yeah, now we're we're now we're grabbing.

602
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: But it's but yeah, you get Henry has been out,

603
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: um and then Dalton Keene's been sort of limited, and

604
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: it kind of leaves you with Jono Smith, Matt Sokol

605
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: and Devon Asiasi and Socol played like the whole game

606
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: last week. Maybe they feel like they need uh because

607
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how much they're gonna play Jono Smith, Like,

608
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: how much how much do you think the starters play smart?

609
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: I think it's a good question. I mean I would

610
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: protect select guys. Jude on Barmore maybe a quarter, you know,

611
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: you give him, I don't know, yeah, fifteen, fifteen snaps,

612
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: twenty snaps. I mean, I think some of the younger

613
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: guys like Mack Wilson, McMillan, you know, just just some

614
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: of those guys. Bentley maybe even a little bit like

615
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: maybe a little extended with the defensive guys maybe, but

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I would snaps for any of the guys

617
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Speaker 1: that I feel like you're gonna be might Key Jude

618
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: on Accordy and on those guys. But I'd love to

619
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Speaker 1: see Peppers get in there. I mean, he was just

620
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was about him yesterday, but

621
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Speaker 1: just as he's as his workload has increased, he just

622
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: seems very involved, very aware of what's going on, directing

623
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Speaker 1: guys right in the middle of everything. That's one of

624
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Speaker 1: my biggest questions going into the s and how are

625
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: they going to use these all these safeties and you

626
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 1: know what, what can they do? I just I think

627
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: that that's going to be a key part of what

628
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: their game plan defense is. I just don't know how,

629
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Speaker 1: you know, you get four safeties on the field and

630
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: have enough speed. Um, so we'll see. I mean some

631
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Speaker 1: of the Jonathan Jones stuff probably related to that a

632
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, when Mike talks about that speed too.

633
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Speaker 1: There was like one play and I don't, you know,

634
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Speaker 1: we don't like to read too much into like individual plays,

635
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: but it was like one red zone snap and you know,

636
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: they they look in and they throw what they leak

637
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: one out into the flat to a back. I think

638
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: it was Deonta Foreman. It just caught it and like

639
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: a shot, mac Wilson just comes comes right up and

640
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: he would have been right there break down and you

641
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: know up. You can always miss a tackle. But the

642
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: speed with which he got there was noticeably different than

643
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: like Kyle van Noy or Dante high Tower what you

644
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: saw last year. So that's something to sort of be

645
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: encouraged by. Yep, all right, five five is the ace

646
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: ticket a hotline. The phones are stacked, so let's uh

647
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: unstack them. Christian is La. What's up? Christian? Hey you guys,

648
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: how are you today? Good conversation going on? Um? Two

649
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: quick things. One, did you guys know that during the

650
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: melee that happened the other day a band would hurt

651
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: Um and esk and Yah who's just reported it? Although

652
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: they they are reporting he Tolly only hurt her foot,

653
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: but it sounds like it could escalate to something more

654
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: legally for the team. Unfortunately, I hope it doesn't. And

655
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: then the second thing is do you think Bill will

656
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: have some sort of um uh like um, wow, you're

657
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: breaking up? Christian you're breaking up, Maybe try back. Do

658
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: you think that that Bill will have will have a

659
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 1: problem giving given shorton a little more, uh, you know,

660
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: um reps and stuff during practice, even though he's a rookie. No,

661
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: he hasn't. No thanks for the call you're breaking up.

662
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: He hasn't had any problem giving him reps. No, he's

663
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: worked in. I mean, there's a clear kind of delineation

664
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: of the of the top guys. But but he's getting

665
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: his chances with Mac and there plenty, I mean, and

666
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: a lot of guys are. It's not like you just

667
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: have a bunch of scrubs on the other field. But

668
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: I think it's it's another great question about how big

669
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: can his role be, how much can he ascend this year?

670
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Based on what we've seen. It's just I think we're

671
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: all getting the itches, like, just play him, just get

672
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: him out there, just let's see what he has. Let him,

673
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: let's make let him make his mistakes and try to

674
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: tap this speed right out of the gate because you desperately.

675
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: I can pretty much guarantee we're going to see him

676
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: tomorrow night. Yeah, yeah we should. I mean, he played

677
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: last week, so maybe a little extended works he you know,

678
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: if Mac gives him some shots. I mean he certainly

679
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: Mac has no problem throwing it up the Parker. Maybe

680
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: we'll see what what he feels like with Thornton. Yeah,

681
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: let's go to Dakota in Maine. What's up, Dakota? Hey,

682
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: can you guys? Hear May? Yes? Hey, So I'm the

683
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: same day, Dakota Trafton. I'm sorry we missed you. We

684
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,959
Speaker 1: would have come down and said hello if we had

685
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: caught you early. We were on the show though, But

686
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: but thank you for for coming in the support. Oh,

687
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I appreciate the call out. I wanted a

688
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: call to clare up a few things here. So I

689
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: get to training camp yesterday and I get there and

690
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: I hear Deuce and Tomorrow on the field talking you

691
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: were down there, weren't you? Du Ye's a warm up

692
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: crowd warms him up. I have no idea where these

693
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: where these guys look like. I have no idea what

694
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: they look like. So I was like staring. I was like,

695
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: I need to remember they looked like because if they

696
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: walked by, I want to shout to them. And then

697
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: I apparently lost Duke. At some point, no idea went

698
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: but I lost him, and I eventually saw Tamara like

699
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: walk off to bleachers. I'm like, oh, I want to

700
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: go say hider her, and I assume Deuce was still there,

701
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: but I had no idea what he looked like. So

702
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I my hands. There there's a guy who was talking

703
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: with her, and I was like Mike, and he like

704
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: gave me it's a weird look. It gave me a look,

705
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: so I'm like, well, I know it is Tamara, so

706
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm like Tamara and it was just like so awkward.

707
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: So I wanted to clear that up because tomorrow I

708
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: was so happy to see you, and I wasn't like

709
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: looking from Mike specifically. I would have loved to have

710
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: met you, Deuce. I would have loved to have met you.

711
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, yeah, that would have been great. Hey,

712
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: may me next year give us a shout let us know, maybe, Paul.

713
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I guess, well, next year, we're gonna have Doucey's We're

714
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: gonna have a booth for him at Comic Con signing

715
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: my new record, I'll forget your Brady Reducs. Matt Morrel

716
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: liked that one. Um, yesterday was like my million training camp.

717
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: I've been too, but yesterday was definitely the craziest one

718
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: in turn of all those fights, especially of course with Wilkerson.

719
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: Did you see what happened to him? So well, that's

720
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: I saw him go down, but the angle wasn't very good.

721
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: I was in. I was just behind the field goal

722
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: postum where the panther. We're practical. More people have seen sasquat. Yeah,

723
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: and what dunk was. I was trying to see how

724
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: hurt he was, because yeah, he was just laying on

725
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: the field forever. And I kept watching him, and then

726
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: that other fight happened and I look over and he's gone.

727
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: It was like a magic trick or something. I was like,

728
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: did he get up? Did he get carted away? What happened?

729
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: Where'd he go? Yeah? They walked him off the far

730
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: end and and you know, put him in the tent

731
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: and stuff and then cart him up. But yeah, it's

732
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: just scary, scary stuff. You just hate to see that

733
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: any sport. Yeah, when guys get cart off, they take

734
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: this back route. It's kind of a long way to

735
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: the locker room at backside. Yeah, sneak him down the backside.

736
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: So well, Dakota, thanks and keep in touch. Thanks for

737
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: the call, appreciate it. Let's go to New York where

738
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: Dominique is on the phone. What's up, Dominique? Hey, how's

739
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: everyone doing? All right? Good? Good dude. I had a

740
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: couple of thoughts. First, um, the whole offense offensive play situation.

741
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: I don't know what you remember from it, but do

742
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: you remember when I think Matthew Chichette left and then

743
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick hadn't really named the defensive coordinator. You know,

744
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 1: he had jumped in during the seat and I think

745
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: his son Sees had done a little bit g Rob Mayo.

746
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what the reactions were for

747
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: that when no one knew what the defensive coordinator, if

748
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: we had the same panic that we you know have

749
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: now with Joe Judge. No, it was Brian Flores. It

750
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: was Brian Flores, defensive coach, defensive coach. Okay, got it.

751
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: But I'm starting to think with you know, as the

752
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,240
Speaker 1: week progressive is I don't you know, you know, training

753
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: camp week a week is there? Like I don't even

754
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: say no concern, but do you feel a little bit

755
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: more calm and especially assuming that Bill might you know,

756
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: take over some some aspects of off intive play calling.

757
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: Somebody I don't know who it was. Again, I apologize,

758
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 1: I get all this stuff into it. I'm just glancing

759
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: at it. But somebody said that when they went to

760
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: two minutes, Bill was the one calling the play. That

761
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: was a report from Bert Breer who spoke to some

762
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: personnel from Carolina who felt like that was the situation,

763
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: that that Bill was the one. Actually, now, that could

764
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: have been as simple as situations will be embarked out

765
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: and that's why the calls were as such. But I

766
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I'm not going to feel good about

767
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: it until I see the offense productive. That's when I'll

768
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: feel I'll say, Okay, whatever they're doing, it's working. Yeah,

769
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: But until that happens, I'm not going to feel good about.

770
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, multiple guys calling plays, I wouldn't feel good

771
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: about it. But if if you had to say, it's

772
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: one guy, who would you most be comfortable with, I

773
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: think Patricia. I just I don't want it to be Bill.

774
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: I just think he's at his best when he's able

775
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: to do everything and take in the situations and if

776
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: he gets too wrapped up and trying to call offensive

777
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: plays and think about like you know, maybe it's a process,

778
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: but Patricia has at least called plays. I mean, I

779
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: think the bigger point is something we talk about a

780
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: lot of you know, well they haven't a coordinators like

781
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: this before. But it's just there's not guys who have

782
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: been kind of in the system and you know, our

783
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: easy candidates to promote their guys from the other side

784
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: of the ball a little bit. This is different, I

785
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: have to admit, you know, even who it'll be fine,

786
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: in all those cases, it was either someone who had

787
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: been groomed for that position, even if they didn't get

788
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: the title right away, they've been grooming, or someone who

789
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: came in from elsewhere, like you know, Bill O'Brien, who

790
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: had done it. You know, this is different. Even though

791
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: Judge has been here, Patricia's been here, their football coaches,

792
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,720
Speaker 1: they've never done the exact job or have been groomed

793
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: for that job. So it is different. It is different. Yeah,

794
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: and that's I just think you have to acknowledge that.

795
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I think Paul's point is ultimately right,

796
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: And as I said on the radio yesterday, I just

797
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, I hope will as the media try to,

798
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, be fair to what isn't working within the operation.

799
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: And you know, as I said before Map, Patricia's hands

800
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: are all through it. So it's going to be hard

801
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: for I don't know, what's the last year where I said,

802
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, it's really going to be important for us

803
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: as people covering the team to be accurate, yes, and

804
00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: not let our biases, you know, dictate what we're telling fans. Yeah,

805
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think it. Forget about it, I think

806
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: I know, but it's really important we can try and

807
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: not to let Max skate or you know, yeah, if

808
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: it's the offensive line and you just just to be

809
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: trying to be fair of what's not working, and it's

810
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: hard to untangle. It's easy to just say, well, that

811
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: was a bad play call, like you've seen it all

812
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: through camp, Like what difference does it make who's calling

813
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: plays in camp? Like seriously, well just for the quarterback

814
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: to get used to But I'm not talking about getting

815
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: in a rhythm in the game. Right that all of

816
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: that stuff is completely validate a game in practice, you

817
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're doing every day. Right, he hasn't

818
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: been great. I haven't heard anybody say that. I mean

819
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say anybody. I haven't heard that be widespread,

820
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: Like mac Jones hasn't you know, it's all what do

821
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: you expect? The kids? Got three guys calling plays for him,

822
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: and you know, it's that that's what you're gonna get,

823
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: gets what you're gonna get, all you And I think

824
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: it's up to us to, you know, like I'm I

825
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 1: think the Patriots have some good pieces on offense, enough

826
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: of them to be a good offense. But I'm gonna

827
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: try to be even handed. Like if if you know,

828
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: if Myers isn't having a good season, or if you know,

829
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: Smith once again can't get it going, that's not whoever

830
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator's fault is you know, yeah, it's not

831
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: you know. And I think I think Paul touched on

832
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: something too. Of it's easy in practice to call players

833
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: you know what you're calling, You kind of know what

834
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: you're working on. But it's the organic game stuff of all, right,

835
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 1: this is not working, we need to counter this. How

836
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: do we do that? Those are the things that are

837
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: hard to discern. But I think the offensive coordinator has

838
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: a huge role in of what we just kept trying

839
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: to do it because that's all we can do kind

840
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: of thing or wow, this wasn't working, so they went

841
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: spread and it started really to click, like you know

842
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: those are things where all right. That was a nice

843
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: adjustment offensively, but you know the Max's point of there's

844
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: guys open, he's not finding them. Those kind of things aren't. Now.

845
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: To answer your question, Dominique, who do I want? I

846
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: want it to be Bill so that when they when

847
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, Bill cannot he can have a defensive

848
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: game plan and an offensive game plan in the Hall

849
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: of Fame. I wanted to be a Bill too, because

850
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: he's the only coach that I trust out of out

851
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: of the candidates. What do you want, Dominie. I deferred

852
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: it though, I'll be honest if I had to, if

853
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: it's not Bill off thing mass just because yeah, he's

854
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: been around, you know, I know Joe Judge had just

855
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: come back. But you know Madison, you know, fast with

856
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: the lines for a little bit. So maybe estimated working.

857
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: Maybe there was something going on internally that we don't

858
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: know that the you know, supervisor who knows, but that

859
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, I'd love to know what this process is.

860
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 1: Bill is talking about. What is the process? You don't

861
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: need to worry about it, I know, I know it's

862
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: very procedural, Like you know, big mess up. Yeah all right,

863
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: Dominic Okay, oh sorry, yeah, I'll let you go after this. Um,

864
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 1: good question. I haven't gone a chance to see like

865
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: training camp out yet. How ta thort and been positioned

866
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: on offense like he's played as an outside he thought

867
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: a little bit of both both? Oh, a little bit

868
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: of both, thank you. Yeah, he's caught passes on the edge,

869
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: he's cut passes over the middle. Yep. Um. Yeah, so

870
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: they're they're looking at him everywhere, which is what they

871
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: should do. You know, you you don't want a guy

872
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: to be one dimensional, but he's a rookie. Every time

873
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 1: I see a clip of him, it just it's it's

874
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: reinforced of just his ability to be sudden, you know,

875
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: and it's just it jumps out. You know a lot

876
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: of the Patriots receivers in recent years have kind of

877
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: been somewhat plotting, and this is just a guy with

878
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: that slippery speed, and it's and it translates. You know.

879
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: I don't really ever remember, and I don't want to

880
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: bring Philip door Set into it, but you know, a

881
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: guy who ran like a four two something at the

882
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: combine and certainly had straight life. Paul guy, Philip do yeah,

883
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: you love Philip, but I never I didn't just like him,

884
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: but I didn't like him. But but I never remember

885
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: seeing just in and out of a break like that.

886
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: He looks smooth and sudden and you know, you see

887
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: yesterday defensive backs kind of like whoa, you know, like

888
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: he gets that quick step on them and they're like,

889
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they're in the does. So it's

890
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: just that's what's intriguing, it's what they've needed, it's what

891
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: so many fans have been clamoring for. So I just

892
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: hope they get that element involved in the offense as

893
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: soon as possible. William is in Philam what's up William?

894
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: What's up for? Are doing good? Okay? Question, well asking

895
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 1: more than one. I hope that I hope that store store,

896
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: and you know, I hope everything turns out for him. Basically,

897
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't get injured anything like that. I

898
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 1: just want him to have full seasons. Just hear it

899
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: out tesketball whatever like that. You know this, dude, what

900
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: you need to impark. I want him to just have

901
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: a healthy season. Yeah, that's a big question for sure.

902
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: I mean that might be why you keep some of

903
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: these extra extra guys. I mean he's had the injury

904
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: issues a lot, right and last my last not so much,

905
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: well not so much. Somebody will ask you, I'm a waste.

906
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather wait for this until the season's done. But

907
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: I will say that after the season is done, I

908
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: would like to have a nice fell talker pictures. I'm

909
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: films like, I just want to. I don't want to

910
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: say up for them because, like I said, because the

911
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: season hasn't started yet, but after this season and for

912
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: what I have in the backroom mind, what I'm thinking

913
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: about how to send season might end. I really want

914
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: to talk to y'all series, okay, because you think it's

915
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna be bad and you want to see how about

916
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: how bad do you think it could be? Like? What

917
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: what do you think is the absolute worst that they

918
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: could be this year? I don't, Oh, I think they

919
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: might make the playoffs. I'll leave it at debt. How

920
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 1: about this. Listen, then that's good If they might make

921
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm I'm I'm on on board with that. Yeah, Like,

922
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: I just want to take another step further than than

923
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, than last years. Sure, I don't know, like

924
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: I said, it's like they took it's why they took

925
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: a step back on the roster a little bit. But well,

926
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 1: they backed into the playoffs. They did their damage early

927
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: against the lesser teams, and they and they backed in.

928
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't get in based on momentum, that's

929
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: for sure, you know, right, yeah, yeah, okay, all right,

930
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: thanks William take it all right? All I don't know

931
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: what he's gonna call back with him a little bit scared,

932
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think it's just like, okay,

933
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: now we've seen it. Now what do you think you know?

934
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll be talking about it. It's not like

935
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna hide after the season. We're gonna be out there. Yeah,

936
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: we don't hide now. I'm open. I'm open to whatever happens. Sure.

937
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: Web Radio at Page had a two hour postgame show

938
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: after that bludgeoning and against Buffalo last year. We're gonna

939
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: not have one this year. We'll be here. I mean,

940
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: we had a two hour post game after that preseason game.

941
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: We can do anything. That's true, after the preseason game,

942
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: you could do anything. Web Radio Patriots dot com is

943
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: the email address. Let's get to some of the emails.

944
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: David's in Maine. Can anyone please calm my worries about

945
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: the offense. Do we have competent outside the number of receivers?

946
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: Do we have red zone threats? Is our only hope

947
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: to score over twenty points against good teams? A greatly

948
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: improved year to Mac Jones to carry the team. Has

949
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: Max started to look better in training camp. Perhaps our

950
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: offensive play calls, with their lengthy experience, will know how

951
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: to utilize the players. DeVante Parker, I think, is a

952
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: pretty proven receiver outside their numbers. Yeah, I was almost

953
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: going to say, and I'm not sure if I believe.

954
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: This came in my head and I think I believe it,

955
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: but I'd almost say individually, not including the running backs,

956
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: but individually as far as receivers and tight ends have

957
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: been more impressed this year, which is their individual performances

958
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: and some of the plays that they've made in camp,

959
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: where I don't know if I was as much last year.

960
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it says about the team. I

961
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: mean overall, I think the offense has been clunkyer For me,

962
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: that's because of Thornton. Because I didn't expect Thornton to

963
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: be sort of knocking on the door of playing time.

964
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I figured this was going to be a red shirt

965
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of year for him, So I think he could play.

966
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: And I think the second year guys are comfortable and

967
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: they look like it, and I think that's why we

968
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: are seeing them make more places this year. Like Nelson

969
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Agilore has definitely been like at the top of my

970
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: mind when I think of like the years, I think

971
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: he said good. I think he's had a good camp.

972
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 1: I liked those guys last year, like I don't love

973
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: any of them, but I think with with Thornton, I

974
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: think there's a there's a chance that he's he's part

975
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: of the mix, and I wasn't expecting that. Like Jono Smith,

976
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: to me, I wish that we had like some of

977
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: the stuff that we said and wrote last year about

978
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: JOHNO Smith, it's all the same stuff we're saying and

979
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: writing now. Everybody was like, this guy's an athlete, he's

980
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: gonna they're looking for ways to get the ball on

981
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: his hands, and they are and they do and they

982
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: did last year too, and it didn't really Yeah. I

983
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: mean had that pre season where he took the ball

984
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: over the middle and turned it upfield and it's like, WHOA, right,

985
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: that's athleticism. We haven't seen at that position since Gronk left,

986
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: and then you know it didn't translate. But it's still

987
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: it's as much as he's been involved, it's like there's

988
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: nothing about the involvement that makes you say, who he's

989
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: gonna be amazing, Like it's just he's heavily involved. Um,

990
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's just gonna be a question of do

991
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: you break tackles, do you make guys miss? You know

992
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: are able to do that after the catch, right, and

993
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: then the last two days he was heavily involved in.

994
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Henry hasn't been out there, so you have to remember

995
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: that too. Also teams like too a lot of you know,

996
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: just a lot of times last year the catches look

997
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: clunky and he just didn't really have a chance. Sometimes

998
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,479
Speaker 1: not to say that, you know, it was necessarily Max's

999
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: fault or his fault, it's just the ball wasn't put

1000
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: in a position where he could secure it quickly and

1001
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: turn up field. That a lot of times he's twisted

1002
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: in the air and just it didn't look right. So

1003
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: I hope if it looks right, it'll present more opportunities

1004
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: for him. I will say, Um, Paul, my favorite part

1005
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: about Matt rolds press conference. Was his praise for Taekwon Thornton,

1006
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: Like he genuinely looked like he must have recruited him, right,

1007
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: yeah he did, but like just he was like, the

1008
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: fans are gonna love him. He's a great player, obviously

1009
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: he's like, but he's such an amazing person. I can't

1010
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: wait to talk to him and his family. So he

1011
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 1: had Thornton for one year at Baylor. Yeah, I don't

1012
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: know if he actually I don't I don't know if

1013
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 1: he actually got to coach. Yeah, I'd have to look

1014
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: at the timeline. But I'm my guess is when he's

1015
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: talking about his family like that, he's talking about being

1016
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: in the in the kids living room. Yeah yeah, speaking

1017
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: of family. Um, yeah, I'm just like at the point

1018
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: and like I just wanted to play good. I just

1019
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 1: wanted to be fast and like is he nice? Got great?

1020
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: Like as long as he's like, you know, committing crimes,

1021
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: like like fine, just be fast. Speaking of family. It

1022
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: makes me think of James White, who officially retired on Tuesday.

1023
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: Was it Monday or Tuesday? Tuesday? Tuesday? Tuesday? Yeah? Um?

1024
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: And in his press in his press conference, you know,

1025
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: he was asked you know, what, what do you want

1026
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: to do? You know? And he says like, well, you know,

1027
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna jump into anything, but he didn't rule

1028
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: out coaching, and he didn't rule out going into the media.

1029
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: You know, so like, Okay, you know our show, you

1030
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: can come on here anytime you want. That's my James

1031
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: White laugh, right. I thought that, Yeah, workshop, it's easy

1032
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: to get James White to laugh. He kind of laughs

1033
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: at everything. But then there was one TV guy who

1034
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: had asked the question about the past Larrence, and you know,

1035
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: I had I had some I heard from some people

1036
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 1: out there that uh were very like They're like, that

1037
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: question ruined the whole press conference. I you know, it's

1038
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: like did we really have to do that? And you know,

1039
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: it brought it brought tears to his eyes, and you know,

1040
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: I was sitting with no sign. We're like, well, he

1041
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: got what he wanted. You know, that's what he was

1042
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: looking for, right, you know that? Yeah, and he's done

1043
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: that before. I didn't hear the question exactly, so I

1044
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: didn't know exactly how he had teaed him up. But

1045
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean, what if your parents, what your parents mean

1046
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: to you when you know, cry cry for me it's like,

1047
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a question he's answered many many

1048
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: times before, and he's kind of private about that stuff too. Yeah.

1049
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: Just and so now he's talking about his retirement, you know,

1050
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: so let's I don't know, I just I don't think

1051
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: I would ever be comfortable asking anyone about a tragic

1052
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: passing of a parent. But a lot of his a

1053
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: lot of his teammates were there, you know, Bill Belichick

1054
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 1: was obviously, Ivan Fiers came back for it. It was nice.

1055
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 1: It was nice. Did you get to see it because

1056
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: Brown front of you, and I thought you were just

1057
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 1: going to be like I'm sitting in the back and

1058
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: of course who but Trent Brown comes and stands right

1059
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: in front of him, like of course he does. I

1060
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: might as well be at the movies, you know, where

1061
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: the tall person always sits in the chair in front

1062
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: of him Brown. Yeah, right now. It was a good

1063
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: too good turnout though. I mean, you saw all the

1064
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: teammates pouring in and everybody was there. It was it

1065
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: was nice. It was I was talking to the radio stair.

1066
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: It was funny how poor James's wife is like chasing

1067
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: his screaming daughter around the home. He's like thanking. It's

1068
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: like this hard Robert, Robert missed it a layup. He

1069
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: missed a layup. So while Robert was talking, he was

1070
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: talking about the twenty eight three game, you know, one

1071
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: of the greatest games. And as he's talking right about

1072
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: that game, the kids starts bawling in the back, and

1073
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 1: Robert should have said, is Arthur blank here or something

1074
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: about like, you know, now I know how the Falcons fell.

1075
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: He missed a layup. It was like perfect timing. Started

1076
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: crying to get in the ear plastic. Just as he

1077
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 1: was talking about that game, the kids started crying, don't worry,

1078
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: we came back something like that. That's what he should

1079
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: have said, Oh don't we We came back and we

1080
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: won that game. Why we gotta take a shot off

1081
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: the blank. There's enough means of him yourself in a

1082
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: position where some smart assn I would have, like, you know,

1083
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 1: make a whole t shirt about it, or now that

1084
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: they don't win anymore, they're resigning themselves taking shots at owners,

1085
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: And I would that's see, I would think about that

1086
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: kind of stuff all the time. It's a layup again.

1087
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 1: Web Radio at Patrice dot com. Zach writes in from Brighton.

1088
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: He says, I find it a little concerning that we

1089
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: haven't heard much about Born throughout training camp in comparison

1090
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: to the other receivers, Considering Kendrick spent a lot of

1091
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: time in Shanahan's offense. I get that this new offense

1092
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: will not just be a copy of San Francisco, but stylistically,

1093
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: you would think that Born might have had a leg

1094
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: up on this system given his experience. Is this something

1095
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: you guys have thought about or am I off base? No?

1096
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I think when you talk about what they're doing,

1097
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: I think it's just more related to the foundational run

1098
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: game of the outside zone. So I don't know with

1099
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: the passing game, really, you know, what the what the

1100
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: difference is. I don't know if they're taking Shanahan's terminology

1101
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: and using that as well. I'm sure it's terminology that

1102
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: they've kind of been using. So as far as it

1103
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: relates to the passing game and kind of the unique

1104
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: things that they're able to do with deep and stuff passing,

1105
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: it looks like it looks kind of the same. Although

1106
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know the answer to this. Have

1107
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 1: they been running any RPOs or anything like? Yeah, they

1108
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: have they've have have had a few, um you know,

1109
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: and they and they did like none of it last year,

1110
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 1: so I think, but again it's like how much are

1111
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: they really hiding, you know, what they've done in early practices,

1112
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: what they've done out here, what they did in the

1113
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: game the other night. It's it's it's they're not putting

1114
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: it all on full display yet. So I think a

1115
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff's going to be put in over

1116
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: the two weeks when we don't see them. Yeah, and

1117
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it really comes to what they

1118
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: get through the Raiders. It's going to be all Miami.

1119
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: It's it's just gonna be getting ready for Miami. Yeah,

1120
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: and it should be. I mean, it's a big, big

1121
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: opening game. Geez ufc man, I just I'm sorry. I

1122
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: I can't watch it. I can't watch two brutal. It's

1123
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: too brutal for me. Yeah, to brutal. I don't know

1124
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: what it says because I watched football all the time,

1125
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 1: which I mean, but it's the same thing watching somebody

1126
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: punch someone in the face, like as he's on the

1127
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: ground on the virgin knocked out. I'd see. That's the

1128
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: part of it that I have a hard time watching

1129
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: is not like you know, like I'll watch a boxing

1130
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: match and the guy gets one in the chin and

1131
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: goes down. You wow, did you see that? But then

1132
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: like the MMA guys you like you have, like they

1133
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: jump on you, then the guys out. I can't get it,

1134
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: and it's just the guy on the ground. Matt probably

1135
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: has like flashbacks to the core. And have you seen

1136
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: this new one where it's almost like arm wrestling but

1137
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: they're holding each other's arm and then they're punching each

1138
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: other with the free arm, just wailing away at each other.

1139
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: I can't get into it. I can't either. Yeah, I

1140
00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: guess some I was talking to somebody who did a

1141
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: lot of the app development for UFC when it first started.

1142
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: Now he's doing it for bare knuckle brawling or bare

1143
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: n that's he said. That's becoming bigger than UFC. Um

1144
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: just barely get rid of any kind of padding or

1145
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: protection for anybody, make it harder and more brutal. It

1146
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: just yeah, it's just so brutal for me. It's funny

1147
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: how like football is going to get outlaw opposed supposedly

1148
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: at some point you know it's going to be flag

1149
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: but yet more, you know, man to man combat, you know, right, Yeah,

1150
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: sports are being developed and popularized. It seems like this

1151
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: is a disconnect. This is what I like about football

1152
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: is I feel like football is kind of embodies all

1153
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: of it, like embodies timing and creativity and yes, physicality,

1154
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: but it's not just about brutality. It's it's not about

1155
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: speed and decisions. Christian goes down yesterday, okay, And maybe

1156
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: Carolina was classless in standing over him, right, because you

1157
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: see when it got on top of them and started

1158
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: pounding them more like I didn't come over and jump

1159
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: on him start hitting him again. That seems excessive, right.

1160
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: And you know this whole thing about concussion, I guess

1161
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: UFC they just don't. It doesn't matter, right. I mean

1162
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 1: that's like because these guys that even after like two

1163
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: or three years doing it sound like scrambled eggs. Yeah.

1164
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 1: You know, can I ask you something completely separate from

1165
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: our football discussion, from our Patriots discussion? Do you have

1166
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: any idea where Tom Brady is No? No, I see

1167
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: tom Antonio Brown tweeting at him now too. Yeah. No,

1168
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: I saw that and that's what made me think of

1169
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: it just now. But well, about a week ago on

1170
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: the TB twelve account he had like family time is

1171
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: the best time, and it was you know, the three

1172
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: kids and he and Giselle. Now I don't know when

1173
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: those pictures were taken and I don't know where, but

1174
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 1: it seemed they seemed like recent pictures. Yeah, Yeah, I

1175
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: thought the timing of him going away was interesting. Like

1176
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: when the Dolphins came in for joint practices in the game,

1177
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: It's like, was it because was it pre planned or

1178
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:05,359
Speaker 1: was it because of all the drama that just came

1179
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 1: out six days before? He was there the first day, right,

1180
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: pretty sure he talked to two to what told the

1181
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: whole story about yeah, you're on the field with Tom

1182
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: and talking to too. I heard that Tampa Bay screwed

1183
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: up in not letting it out before camp, that it

1184
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: was a pre planet and they made a bigger became

1185
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: a big It is bizarre, Yeah, especially right in the

1186
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: middle of camp, like I could see like he's gonna

1187
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: be late, but like the core part of the preseason

1188
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: when the main games are I mean, I look, but

1189
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: at this point in his career, everything is bizarre because

1190
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: he's you know, forty five years old and a starting quarterback,

1191
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, and everything he does is different. So I

1192
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: think it's weird. Yeah, it does feel weird. I wonder

1193
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: if we're going to get an actual maybe this was

1194
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: planned when he like pre retired. Yeah, he could have

1195
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: made it a game. He could have made a you know,

1196
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: I just I can't help, but Gazelle's involved, and I

1197
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: don't want to like speculate divorce, but just you know what,

1198
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: I want to go vacation to Costa Rica the last

1199
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 1: week of August. Tummy Well, there's no doubt that that

1200
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,479
Speaker 1: was an issue. I mean, she wrote him that before

1201
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: before it was publicly it was public knowledge that she

1202
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: wrote a letter to him basically giving him an ultimatum,

1203
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, at one point in their marriage, and somehow

1204
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: he's still squeezed. He squeezing years out of it. I

1205
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: don't have the answer. I just find it fascinating and bizarre. Yeah, something,

1206
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it just was wondering if you guys had

1207
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: any theories that I hadn't heard. What else can you

1208
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: speculate If nobody's sick and there isn't like a marriage

1209
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: turmoil like otherwise, you know, he's dealing with a serious

1210
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: situation in terms of health with his family or those

1211
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: are the two things that came into my mind. But

1212
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: then everybody says it was pre planned, right, So I

1213
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: don't know, is that a lie? I gotta take it

1214
00:58:55,120 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: a phase value planned like marriage retreat could be. But

1215
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I think tap tamara yours might be the most simple

1216
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: and accurate. It could have been something when he had

1217
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: that retirement where he made a commitment and he didn't

1218
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: want to break it. That's a point to possibly. I'm

1219
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: curious if we'll ever find out, you know, if he's

1220
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: just gonna show back up and yep, I took care

1221
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 1: what I had to take care of. And it's like

1222
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: Castanza like when he quits. Yeah, he's just like, oh

1223
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 1: you wait, what he's gonna be a fine sailor? You

1224
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: really thought I I can't believe you thought that. So

1225
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: he could be opening up. I was never going to

1226
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: tell he could be opening up TB twelve in La

1227
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 1: for all we know, y you know, the grand opening

1228
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: of that. I don't know. Well, I feel like at

1229
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: this point though, Bucks fans are just like, whatever, just

1230
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: come play when you want. They're just like from a

1231
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: football standpoint, it wouldn't bug me at all. Yeah, who's there? Backup?

1232
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: I think Blaine Gabbert, right, yeah, or the kid from Florida,

1233
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Fred's guy Trask, Kyle Trask, he was there too. Yeah,

1234
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: like football wise, it wouldn't bother me much at all

1235
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: because I because of him him. Yeah, you know, if

1236
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: it was someone else, you know, if Aaron Rodd, you

1237
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: know whatever. Guys has been around as long as that.

1238
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: They don't need, they don't need all that. But it's weird.

1239
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: It's it, and I don't think it's something that he

1240
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: wants per se. No, So it was supposed to be

1241
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: for ten days. Is that what the absence was going

1242
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: to be? Yeah, I think so. Maddie Morrell just sent

1243
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: me a tweet that said Tud Bowls said he doesn't

1244
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: have a firm date for Tom Brady returning, said it'll

1245
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: be after the Titans game and they'll revisit it after that.

1246
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: And now that's weird. Why would you use that word? Right?

1247
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: He also was asked, you know, will he be the

1248
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: starter of Week one, and Bowls didn't say definitively yes. Wow, Okay,

1249
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: so that's weird. Now now i'm a little because it's

1250
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: a little more open ended. Now, yeah, if it was

1251
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: a schedule thing, So now I think maybe you know,

1252
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. It is weird, which

1253
01:00:55,480 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 1: as Elle says he can come back, he'll come back.

1254
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: Russell in Arkansas. I have a non Patriots related football question.

1255
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: Do teams send scouts to other Pro Football league games

1256
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: and practices to look for guys with potential? Also? Is

1257
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Speaker 1: it crazy to think that time Montgomery could lead the

1258
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: team in receptions and yards? Yes, that would be crazy.

1259
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: What about yards from scrimmage? I don't think he's gonna

1260
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: be that. Probably probably that that's not as crazy, but

1261
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: probably not that either. I mean, if you've got Damien

1262
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: Harris injury, maybe that would you know, or somebody he

1263
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 1: Receivenson went out and maybe he has to do a

1264
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: little bit more. But yeah, I don't think he's now

1265
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:40,439
Speaker 1: that good. Um his career high like three hundred yards.

1266
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: In terms of etiquette and sending other scouts to other

1267
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: people's practices, you're not supposed to do that. Yeah, but

1268
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: games games, every every preseason games. Oh yeah, they come

1269
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,479
Speaker 1: to the games to look at because you know, guys

1270
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: you might cast off. They might pick up after this

1271
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: after the preseason. But when in practice. Washington famously started

1272
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: charging people years ago and once they started doing that,

1273
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: you had a pay to go to practice. That opened

1274
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: up the ability for teams to send scouts to just

1275
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: buy a ticket to go. If you're charging, then anybody

1276
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 1: can buy a ticket to go, right, But it seems weird.

1277
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,959
Speaker 1: But when it's free, you're not supposed to exploit that. Yeah,

1278
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: I remember that. That was a big thing when when

1279
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: Washington started to charge. Yeah, Washington does everything wrong. They

1280
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: really do. Everybody's still like, we don't even care. What

1281
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? Uh, let's go to um backer

1282
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 1: in Uval day. I would imagine that's Texas probably, Yeah,

1283
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: isn't it. That's that's where they had to shoot him. Yes, yeah,

1284
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: Uh just saw the Patriots signed tight end Jalen Widemeyer

1285
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: after the Bills cut him. Can y'all keep us updated

1286
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 1: on how he doesn't practice when he gets there. I

1287
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: know he'll bottom of the tight end depth chart, maybe

1288
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: a chance of passing Asia. But I was at A

1289
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 1: and M while he played there, and he was really

1290
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: good at getting open and making big plays. Well, you're probably,

1291
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't think throw him right in tomorrow.

1292
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 1: We're only going to see maybe two more practices. Maybe three,

1293
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: but but I think two joint practices next week, so

1294
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think we'll get much of a

1295
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: look at him. I'm curious if they threw him right

1296
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: out there over tomorrow. But that was similar to what

1297
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: I read he was. He was kind of a promising,

1298
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: ascending guy early in his career at Texas A and M,

1299
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: but didn't really do well, didn't test well athletically. But

1300
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: in that conference, like even like fans have stats, right,

1301
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: everybody scores everybody. Yeah, she loves shade to other college conferences.

1302
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 1: That makes her. How is Cole strange looking? He says?

1303
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 1: How does he compare to other guards who went on

1304
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: to have successful careers We've had come in, like Tuney

1305
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: or Mason. Would you consider trading Agalore or Myers for

1306
01:03:55,840 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: another starting piece in our offensive line? Wow? Range versus

1307
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 1: Burns was Yeah, I think he's I mean, I think

1308
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: he's been up and down. I think he's had some

1309
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: good moments of promise, and I think he's also, you know,

1310
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: gotten handled a couple of times. So it's a process

1311
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: with him. I mean, I couldn't speak to how Logan

1312
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: Mankins looked out of the gate in training camp. But um,

1313
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: he certainly he looks like he plays with some fire

1314
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: to him. I mean he is right in the mix

1315
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. You know, he can tell he plays with

1316
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of an edge. But I think he's

1317
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: he's making a big jump. And I think some of

1318
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: the big guys that he's got to deal with. I'm

1319
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 1: thinking about Christian Wilkins coming up week one, those kind

1320
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: of big, powerful guys. It's those guys don't exist where

1321
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: he came from college. So he needs to get stronger athletically.

1322
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: I think he's pretty good, yeah, but I think he

1323
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: needs to put on some some muscle. Yeah, anchor, that's, um,

1324
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: that's important. I think you need to be strong at

1325
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: that postion. I'm not saying he's I didn't say he's not.

1326
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know what you're saying. I think he

1327
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: needs to be stronger. Yeah, he's gotta do some curls. Yeah,

1328
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: but I think I think I think yeah, And you

1329
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: know me, I don't. I don't focus too much on

1330
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,479
Speaker 1: the offensive line. I leave that for the smart people.

1331
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 1: And we looked. I mean I would glance over at

1332
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: the one on one sometimes and it was you know,

1333
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: mixed back. Sometimes I called this ground there who not

1334
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: so much that time, So, I mean he'll get better,

1335
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I hope. But I think the offensive line right now

1336
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: is is a big question. I think that's one of

1337
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: the weaknesses of the last couple of days of just

1338
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: the protection seems a little spotty, not really opening up

1339
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: line holes in the running game, not really in sync yet,

1340
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: dealing with some injuries. Um, that's something that has to

1341
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: come together in the next couple There's two elements of that.

1342
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: There's guys just getting beat, but then miscommunication where people

1343
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 1: are coming in unchecked. Yeah. Yeah, the latter concerns me

1344
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 1: more than the former because we can work on the

1345
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: other part and you know, work on their technure. It's

1346
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: easier if it's communication. But if guys are running in

1347
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: then that's that's a big problem. Yeah, I mean I

1348
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 1: think I don't. I mean that that kind of stuff

1349
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: didn't jump out to me the last couple of days.

1350
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,960
Speaker 1: I think it was. I mean, from from my perspective,

1351
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, you have free runner. It's more

1352
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: about communication than if guys are just straight up getting

1353
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: beat right then you know, all right? Does you know

1354
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: Yanni could just have what it takes to really actually

1355
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 1: play right tackle full time in the league. Um, and

1356
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 1: you know where's Isaiah wind been? Like, that's that's another

1357
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: big question. Yeah, any word on him? No, now outside

1358
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: of the day to day that we heard from the Yeah,

1359
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: I think somebody said he was running yesterday down on

1360
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: the lower fields. I didn't see it, but I wouldn't expect.

1361
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the ACE ticket outline, Nats and

1362
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: Santa Cruz. Hey, Nat, Hey guys, Hey you can hear me? Yeah.

1363
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: Um So, first off, I thought that was like super

1364
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 1: class list to ask James about his parents, that's just brows.

1365
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: One of the reasons I really like the patriotsun filtered

1366
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: and Mike Reese is you guys don't do stuff like that.

1367
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: You really show a lot of respects to the athletes,

1368
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 1: and that means a lot um me as a fan. Okay,

1369
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: thank you, But what I wanted to touch on is, uh, James,

1370
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 1: I guys like James White, Devin mccordy Matthews later they

1371
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: really feel like, you know, Tom and Julian and Rob

1372
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: were like the kind of football corps of the team.

1373
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: But I was still like, there's like an integrity corps

1374
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: and um, just the good guys really felt like everything

1375
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 1: great about the Patriots as a team, and uh so

1376
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: it was just sad to see James retire and of thinking,

1377
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, Devin and Matt later probably going to be

1378
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 1: gone in the next year or two. Um, it's just

1379
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 1: still like a big moment that these guys who sort

1380
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: of meant so much at the heart of the team

1381
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: will be um moving on. So I don't know if

1382
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: that's how you guys feel about guys by James White

1383
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 1: or Devin mccordy and any others that come to mind,

1384
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, it just struck me that way. I've always

1385
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: always loved how he carried himself, So it was a

1386
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: kind of a sad, sad day for me to have

1387
01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: him retire. Absolutely, I take it offline. So you guys,

1388
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: thanks Nat. Yeah, I mean I think Bill would agree

1389
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, James was one of his circle

1390
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: the Wagon guys as his slater in mccordy, and right now,

1391
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be in the backup Bill's mine.

1392
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: Who are who's going to take the baton? Yeah, you know,

1393
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 1: is it Matt Jones? It needs to be, And I

1394
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if in the coming weeks we find

1395
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: out that Max's been named the captain. Yeah, you know,

1396
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's an interesting point, and I

1397
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: think it speaks to the dynamic of where this team

1398
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: is and some of the holdovers from that old And

1399
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing with David Andrews, I mean, Dietrich Wise. Yeah,

1400
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 1: And I know some people, you know, maybe don't like

1401
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 1: how he reacted yesterday, but I think he was one

1402
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: of the guys that that said this isn't going to

1403
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,680
Speaker 1: stand and certainly put himself in harm's way to deal

1404
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 1: with it. So, you know, I think I think that's

1405
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 1: what has to happen. I think Mac needs to take ownership.

1406
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: I thought when David Andrews stepped up last week kind

1407
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: of starting to take some ownership, You're not gonna be

1408
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: able to rely on on d Mac and Matthew Slater

1409
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: forever to set up and you know, set that that

1410
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: off the field kind of tone. And so it's good

1411
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: to see those younger guys step up. And I think

1412
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: you're seeing Mac slowly, maybe even too slow, developed that

1413
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: veteran savvy a little bit. He still seems a little

1414
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: like a wide eyed repeating the talking points kind of

1415
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: a guy but would like to see him be able

1416
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: to move beyond that and just project more of his

1417
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: own leadership and and you know, kind of take take

1418
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 1: that ownership with Mike, and I like the examples that

1419
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 1: he used. But just on Mac yesterday and Mike and

1420
01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 1: I were sort of listening to Mack. He is still

1421
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: just a kid, and it's funny, like there was a

1422
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: random question about Brian Burns in the situation last year

1423
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, yeah, we made up. We made up.

1424
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 1: We're friends. We talked at the Pro Bowl. We made up.

1425
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 1: We're friends now. And I was just like that sounds

1426
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: like something a tenue old kid would say, like, Oh, yeah,

1427
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: that's not I that's we're okay now. We talked about it,

1428
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: we made up. Yeah, we're Facebook friends now. Yeah. It's

1429
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 1: just like he posted happy birthday on my wallets. Maybe

1430
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: I just found it a little bit funnier than and

1431
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 1: most people did. But I thought his phraseology was really funny.

1432
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: The less Spring we had a played a Yeah, he

1433
01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 1: came over, our parents talked. Yes, I will say. When

1434
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: I was talking to Kristen, the Panther's team reporter, she

1435
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 1: said that when they went to the Pro Bowl, they

1436
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 1: were like, uh, is this going to be awkward? And

1437
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 1: they were like no, that they that they really did

1438
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 1: make up. So oh no, I believed everything he said

1439
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,719
Speaker 1: yesterday about that situation. He was laughing and talking about

1440
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: how great a guy he is and how great a player,

1441
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 1: but like just the f YEA we made up. We

1442
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: made up. Yeah, it's funny, Like that's what a ten

1443
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,320
Speaker 1: year old says. It's funny. He has just kind of

1444
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 1: like ah shucks a little bit to him. But at

1445
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 1: the same time, he seemed like it seems like those

1446
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: guys generally like him, like I don't know, like like

1447
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 1: guys like Brian Burn's like, I don't know, it's m

1448
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: I can't quite explain, but they, even these tough guys,

1449
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 1: they seem to have love for Mac. And I think he's,

1450
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: you know, earn earned some respect, I think, and I

1451
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 1: think the guys generally really like him, um in the

1452
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 1: locker room. It's just his personality is you know what

1453
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: what he brings, So it's it's it's it's going to

1454
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: be his team. So this season will probably be a

1455
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 1: huge proving ground for him, and I'm sure there's gonna

1456
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: be ups and downs and challenges with the play calling

1457
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. So I you know,

1458
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: even if this season doesn't go as great as we hope,

1459
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: I think like coming out of this year with him

1460
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: kind of continuing to be molded and to take ownership

1461
01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: and to be the guy for the for the team

1462
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: and being captain, Fred will be will be huge. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's got he's got to be a captain. You mentioned respect.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the things that came up with

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Speaker 1: the Panthers team reporter as well. She said J C.

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Speaker 1: Horne came away from this week respecting Mac Jones. He

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Speaker 1: Patriots looked exceptionally good on those seven and sevens from

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Speaker 1: what I saw, Like balls weren't hitting the ground, guys

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Speaker 1: were getting open, and it's it's an almost impossible, you know,

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Speaker 1: task for the defense, but they look really good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: better than they had early in camp. Against their own defense.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a theme in camp, though, I

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Speaker 1: mean pass protection things breakdown, mac tuck and run a

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Speaker 1: little too much of that. Todd's in North Carolina. Hey Todd,

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Speaker 1: sad because those guys like Slater and and White were

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Speaker 1: so respectable. I got three quick questions which I'll take

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Speaker 1: the answer to offline. Number one, who's your drive starter?

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Speaker 1: Number two, it's a third and one who gets the ball?

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Speaker 1: And number three of which play do you call on

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Speaker 1: I know, thank you. I have one answer for all

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Speaker 1: more Stevenson, drive starter, Romandre Stevenson. I'll take all three.

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Speaker 1: I'll take his for all three of those. Um, what

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Speaker 1: if it was a pass catcher for a drive starter? Jacobe?

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I mean, but but I'd love it to

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Speaker 1: be any of them. Could be anybody, could be anybody.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say Agglor. I mean, maybe I

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Speaker 1: it could be any of those guys. But I think

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Speaker 1: it's a good point. We talked about a little bit

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Speaker 1: and you know, without really true blocking tight ends and

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Speaker 1: so even if it is when comes back and haruns

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Speaker 1: the third tackle, like, you know, just what does the

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Speaker 1: short artist look like? We haven't really seen it? And

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Speaker 1: those situations without without that? You know, those those that

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Speaker 1: fullback was such a critical part of what they were

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Speaker 1: done the last few years. So I think that's something

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Speaker 1: we haven't really seen yet. Matt, where's everybody's food? We

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Speaker 1: in history. Here's what I would like you to adopt,

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Speaker 1: unfiltered and every other thing that you do in here,

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01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 1: god knows what during the week, take a little more

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Speaker 1: zen approach and you're in the moment. Whatever you're doing,

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01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: you do though, we have to eat, it's fuel. How

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01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: about eleven minutes? Does that is that? Egregious? Is eleven

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01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:26,960
Speaker 1: minutes on the whole day? You see, here's the thing.

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: His workday is four hours. Our workday is ten hours. Yeah, yeah,

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01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,000
Speaker 1: that's what he doesn't understand. Yeah, that's what he doesn't understand.

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01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:37,240
Speaker 1: Hearty's defense, he works more than four Does that does

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01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 1: that include when I'm here doing the rabs, where I'm

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01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: doing my satellite single day day and a single day.

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Speaker 1: They're not here to do the podcast slash radio show.

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01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 1: We're here to do other things. We throw that in

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01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 1: for our fans. Let's carry Let our fans understand that

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01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: we need to eat right. Let's you and I both

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01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: carry a little personal work. Meeter, you believe in Hearty

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01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: and you're just doing Let's talk about UFOs. What going there?

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01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: And I'm going, that's another great moment from I like

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01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 1: teasing Hardy because I get a reaction to masters at work. See,

1720
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a bully that way. Like, if you give

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01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: me a reaction, I'm gonna keep going. You're witnessing a

1722
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 1: master at work. How about is eleven minutes? Egregious? But

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01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: hard He's all great to play with it though. I

1724
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 1: was trying to get him going on the last post

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01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 1: game show about the music show he has. Oh that

1726
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: was great. You know we were still talking. I don't

1727
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: know what you were doing on that. You had me

1728
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,800
Speaker 1: baffled on that whole thing. Now. I was trying to like,

1729
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 1: you know, so is it an education show or a

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01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: music show? Like? You know? And I was trying to

1731
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: like get him. I wanted him to get frustrated with me.

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01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: You know. I just think he was confused. Yeah, I

1733
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 1: think he thought you were joking around and then he

1734
01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 1: thought you were serious. Yeah. No, I was trying to

1735
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: trying to act like I was serious so that you know, Yeah,

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01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: he could, but I want I wanted him to get

1737
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: impatient with me. It's a music show. But are you

1738
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: talking in between? Like, so, what are you doing? He'll

1739
01:27:01,240 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 1: do it, He'll do it. Yeah, he's a he's a

1740
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,560
Speaker 1: classic party. But no Hardy this week though, But I

1741
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: mean he's still I thought we had him this week

1742
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: and no Hardy next week. We have him this week,

1743
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 1: not next week. Correct. Oh good, because I need to

1744
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: get Chris Ferreira somebody else as credential if it's not Hardy.

1745
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 1: But we're gonna have a Christian Urkian that's really good

1746
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: instead of our party that was really good. And I

1747
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:29,559
Speaker 1: actually did I tell you he came in. Chris, he's

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01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: a good he's a good guy. So I talked to

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01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 1: him about that accent and he's like, yeah, other people

1750
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:35,800
Speaker 1: have said that he goes. I don't know where I

1751
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 1: got it. When I went to Colorado, I had such

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01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: a New England accent that they trained that out of

1753
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: me and then I developed this other thing. I said,

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01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're from Chicago. Where where where a

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01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 1: master did he grow up? Is it? I mean, is

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01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: it now? Oh? He mentioned it was. You know, there's

1757
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 1: no rhyme or reason to who has accents. I feel like,

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01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean, there's certainly like some certain areas that have

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01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: distinct ones. I maybe say the North Shore, but like,

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01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, you probably in it more than like

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01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: around the city. You have the like the the dropping

1762
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: rs is more around the city. Yeah, like really bad.

1763
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: And then there's definitely a New England dialect we have,

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01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: like the os and and what like, like I would

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01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: say Bob instead of Bob like I wouldn't. I wouldn't

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01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 1: say Bob, I would say Bob, you know, And I

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01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: think most people in New England would That would be

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01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: bad kind of like that. But then you go to

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01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Rhode Island and it's like that combination New England, New York. Yes,

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01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: you like Corfy, Yeah, you know. There's such nuance to

1771
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: it too, because so many times when people try to

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01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 1: do badly in movies, they take it as you just

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01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: drop every single R and it's it's not that easy.

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01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 1: It's not that easy. There's somers that still live. You know,

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01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: there's there's some really bad breath there are. There are

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01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 1: some really bad Boston accents here on in movies. Oh yeah,

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: most of them weren't good. The Whitey Bulger movie that

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01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: they made, not not Not with Nicholson, the other one

1779
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 1: the yeah, yeah, some of the ones in that one

1780
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:02,000
Speaker 1: were just so bad. What's his name, doctor Strange him

1781
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 1: doing a Boston accent. Yeah, I was like, you just

1782
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,799
Speaker 1: watched John F. Kennedy and I was doing John F. Kennedy.

1783
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: It wasn't who had a funny accent. Yeah, it wasn't that. Yeah.

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01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: John F. Kennedy didn't have really he had a Boston accent,

1785
01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: but it was more like an educated but like it

1786
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 1: just it was funny, yeah, different, it's like intellectual, right,

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01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: you know what the second somebody's doing a Kennedy versus

1788
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:27,719
Speaker 1: a Boston like Cuban, he would say Cuba, Yeah, Cubar,

1789
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 1: you know. He would put the R at the end

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01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: of me, and my brother wanted, yeah, that's it. That's it.

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01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: That's a Kennedy. That's not a Boston, right. That's kind

1792
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: of unto itself. Kenned. I had a really really strong

1793
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,600
Speaker 1: Boston accent when I went to college. I still have it,

1794
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:46,120
Speaker 1: but it's not anywhere near as pronounced as it was too.

1795
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:48,760
Speaker 1: I love him video. I was just tired of getting

1796
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 1: made fun of all the time. I just kind of

1797
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: started saying ours a little bit. But is that where

1798
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 1: the came out yesterday that I asked you? Yeah, but

1799
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: that's I usually do it now for effect the Panthers,

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01:29:59,400 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: the Panthers. You don't have an accent? No? Yeah? Was that?

1801
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Did you train yourself where just naturally you didn't have

1802
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: an acc I never had one? Yeah, I do. I

1803
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 1: feel like if I say, y'all, yeah, when you get

1804
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: that from where you went to school, maybe I don't know, Yeah,

1805
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: pick it up. It's like Virginia's in the south, but

1806
01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: like you've been like not, you've kind of been all

1807
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 1: over the place too. Yeah, well, yeah, that's true. You've

1808
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 1: you've lived in different places. So that's I've I've lived

1809
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 1: inside one twenty my whole wife. All right? Uh. Web

1810
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: radio at Patrice dot com is the email address eight

1811
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 1: five past five hundred is the a sticket outline. Let's

1812
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 1: go to Ben in Pittsfield. What's up Ben? Hey, guys,

1813
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: what's going on, Hey, hey, I just don't have you

1814
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: guys seen I think you came out this morning. But

1815
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: there was a interview they interviewed Julian Edelman Outport show.

1816
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: He was saying one thing that I caught my interest

1817
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 1: was um about how so this new offense that they're implementing,

1818
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's we've been obviously seeing struggles, but it's

1819
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,439
Speaker 1: a lot simpler than what it had been. And so

1820
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why it came up in conversation

1821
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: was making this offense, or making offense in general, much

1822
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: like much more simple, could help the receivers a lot

1823
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,400
Speaker 1: because when they had Tom Brady and during that whole

1824
01:31:16,439 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: Brady era, it was super difficult to like learn this

1825
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 1: offense if you hadn't been around it for years. Where

1826
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,839
Speaker 1: they were saying, if you know, didn't have a quarterback background,

1827
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: like you know, like Julian Edelman did, and I know

1828
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of frustrating seeing struggles, but like herring that

1829
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: perspective from it, while I could be total speculations, I

1830
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: don't know, kind of like excites me a little bit

1831
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 1: because maybe you were like receivers that we draft, like

1832
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 1: Tyclon Thorton won't end up being a bust like every

1833
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: other receiver were drafted in the past, like five years.

1834
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:45,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted your guys the sauce in that. I

1835
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty interesting. Yeah, I mean that's what

1836
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: we were told early on, that this was an offense

1837
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 1: that would allow players to play faster, you know, so

1838
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,000
Speaker 1: then you saw that, you know, the slow start. I mean,

1839
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,720
Speaker 1: I love the theory of it, and I mean I

1840
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: think that they had to do it. I mean, I

1841
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,040
Speaker 1: think we can. I can, I can criticize how they

1842
01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: did it, but I think they they had to because

1843
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 1: I just don't think there was anyone else unless you

1844
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: maybe kept Mick Lombardi here, that could keep the same

1845
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,080
Speaker 1: offense going. I think, you know, as hard as it

1846
01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 1: is for these new coaches to teach a new offense,

1847
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 1: I think it would be even harder to try to

1848
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 1: speak this language that Josh McDaniels established. So I hear

1849
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,960
Speaker 1: that excitement. I just I think the thing the concern

1850
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 1: is is, like, you know, could you have just gone

1851
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,799
Speaker 1: and gotten an offensive guy to make this switch instead

1852
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 1: of feeling like you're kind of not in the hands

1853
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,360
Speaker 1: of offensive experts. But I just I think the move

1854
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 1: was necessary. I would almost say, why didn't we do

1855
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 1: it when Cam Newton came in? I mean, I know

1856
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty COVID all that was complicated, but you know,

1857
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,479
Speaker 1: it would have been nice to try to do it earlier.

1858
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 1: But I think it's right if it If it, if

1859
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: they do hit the reset button and they're able to

1860
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:49,880
Speaker 1: get more out of guys that come in and it

1861
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: doesn't take as long to pick it up, then I

1862
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's great, you know, I think,

1863
01:32:53,439 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: but it's just can they do it with the guys

1864
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: that they have and how they've chosen to try to

1865
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: do it? That's my question. I also am not willing

1866
01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 1: to make the ass. I'm sure that a lot of

1867
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 1: others are in that the problems with the receivers that

1868
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: have been drafted have been the offense is too hard.

1869
01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Like I don't think Nikkil Harry's problem was he didn't

1870
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: know the offense. As an example, Now, I don't know,

1871
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure. Maybe that was one

1872
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the reason, but I don't think that was. Yeah,

1873
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that he failed because he couldn't pick

1874
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 1: up the offense right. I don't think he was that good, right, Well,

1875
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,920
Speaker 1: And I think to your point, Paul, how many you know,

1876
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 1: how many of the guys that they drafted that they

1877
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: missed on, did you really feel like they should have

1878
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: gotten it? Like I was in the big Nikki Harry fan.

1879
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big Aaron Dobson fan. But those are

1880
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 1: two guys that as rookies stepped in and knew the

1881
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: offense right away. They weren't that good. Kemeral Tompkins and

1882
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:47,120
Speaker 1: Aaron Dobson as rookies were key, key receivers, right, Yeah,

1883
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: they just weren't that good. Like, I don't think it

1884
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: was about the offense. Yeah, I've heard enough former players

1885
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:58,799
Speaker 1: tell me the offense isn't that complicated. You know. Julian

1886
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 1: Edelman is one who goes to the He told everybody

1887
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 1: was calculus. Remember, But like I've heard forty a talk

1888
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 1: about it. And let's face it, I love me subscription

1889
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: for you. You know this here comes. He ain't a

1890
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,600
Speaker 1: brain surgeon, right, It wasn't hard for him. Yeah, And

1891
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,720
Speaker 1: I think for Gron, I think where the complication came

1892
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady was at the line of scrimmage, Like

1893
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: you had to see it the way he expected you

1894
01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:25,600
Speaker 1: to do certain by demanding in the offense. Absolutely, that

1895
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:28,000
Speaker 1: part is not overrated. He demanded a lot of his

1896
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 1: receiver and he expected you to do certain things based

1897
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 1: on how you were being covered in what their scheme

1898
01:34:34,360 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: was in and you know what he saw out the

1899
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And I think that takes a certain

1900
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: amount of like you know, instinct or you know. But

1901
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: don't you think that if they had don't you think

1902
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:48,760
Speaker 1: that if they if Brady was the quarterback now, he

1903
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: would be demanding a lot of his receipts and whatever

1904
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: offense they were in. Absolutely, and I think it would

1905
01:34:53,320 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 1: be tough on It would be tough on the quarterback.

1906
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:58,120
Speaker 1: But you take a guy like Randy Moss, and I

1907
01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: know he's a Hall of Famer, but his football IQ

1908
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,759
Speaker 1: was out. You know, no problem, he comes in, no problem.

1909
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: Why because he's really good and he but he's also

1910
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: really smart. Right, But I don't think that all of

1911
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 1: these guys are really dumb. No, No, you're right, but

1912
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: they didn't have the requisite talents. There's a difference. But

1913
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: there's like a football IQ that Randy Moss had, that

1914
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,880
Speaker 1: Brown had, you know, Jon Branch, David Givins there's a

1915
01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: ton of guys and I could give you a lot

1916
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: of examples. Jabbard Gaffney came away off the street and

1917
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,040
Speaker 1: was a key player immediately, right, Like was he just

1918
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:37,080
Speaker 1: smarter than Doug Gabriel or was he better? Yeah, and

1919
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,200
Speaker 1: better suited for this offense. Yeah, great, two thousand and six.

1920
01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: Callback there, Paul, I love it. Like, but there's a

1921
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 1: million examples of one of the players that didn't need

1922
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 1: three years to figure it out. Yeah, And that's why

1923
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: it's I think this is good territory they we're in,

1924
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Like who were who were the really good receivers that

1925
01:35:52,680 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 1: just couldn't mentally grasp this? You know what I think?

1926
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: My bottom line is, this is an offense that the

1927
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 1: Page has had for twenty two years and put them

1928
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,320
Speaker 1: at the top of the league in offense for like

1929
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: eighteen of those twenty two years, and we're just like

1930
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: eviscerating it now, like oh it's too hard, you know,

1931
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: finally they got rid of at antiquated offense that we

1932
01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: scored so many touchdowns with all those years. Like, I

1933
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: guess I'm just little defensive of the success that the

1934
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:23,680
Speaker 1: offense has had over the two decades that Bill has

1935
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 1: been in charge, and maybe that sounds like I'm like,

1936
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: but oh, look how he picks and choose. That's defending that.

1937
01:36:29,240 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: I think what people are saying, it's an offense that

1938
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 1: only somebody like Tom Brady could run, or well, I

1939
01:36:34,920 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's accurate. Brady grew yes in that offense.

1940
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. And Mike has said this a lot.

1941
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Because Brady was at such a high level and Josh

1942
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:47,600
Speaker 1: was at such a high level within the system, it

1943
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: did make it a little bit harder, but not because

1944
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 1: like that the system itself was excellent, right, can we

1945
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: agree on that? Yeah, the system was a problem. Yeah,

1946
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I just think it's you

1947
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 1: don't have people to coach it too, Like, you don't

1948
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,760
Speaker 1: have people that can teach it and make it understandable

1949
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,120
Speaker 1: for people. So I don't I don't think the system

1950
01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:07,920
Speaker 1: itself is the problem. I just think it's you ran

1951
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: out of the AMMO of guys and it became so

1952
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,800
Speaker 1: you know, unique to what Josh liked and what Tom liked.

1953
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: But but Mac Mac picked it up last year pretty well,

1954
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:20,720
Speaker 1: he didn't, You mean quarterback overwhelmed with the system, you know?

1955
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 1: So I mean I just I think it it had

1956
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 1: to be done. Uh, we can talk about how they

1957
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: did it, but but I think it had to be done.

1958
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's so built up with

1959
01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: Josh and what it was. And I mean maybe they'll

1960
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,439
Speaker 1: get back to that point with Mac of another version

1961
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:35,600
Speaker 1: of the offenses. I think to say about like in

1962
01:37:35,720 --> 01:37:38,040
Speaker 1: the number of years that you know, Tom was here

1963
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: and Josh, like they kept layering stuff on the right

1964
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 1: on the basis they have their own is the system,

1965
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 1: but they's also fallbacks. Yeah, like when you have Josh

1966
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: and Tom who've been together for Yeah, you know what, Hey, yep, Mike,

1967
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: you remember you remember that game in oh eight when

1968
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:56,160
Speaker 1: we couldn't get well not a good example, remember the

1969
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 1: game at eleven when we couldn't get anything going and

1970
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: we went to this, right, this is what they're doing

1971
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:04,479
Speaker 1: us again, Let's go to that exactly what's happenings? Whereas

1972
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 1: like Nelson Aghila ors what are you talking about? It

1973
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: wasn't here, I wasn't here in eleven. I don't know

1974
01:38:09,200 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: what what's this adjustment we're talking like, you know, rather

1975
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: than scrapping the whole system, you can just as easily

1976
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,120
Speaker 1: take the same system the way it was back in

1977
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 1: two oh three and say, okay, let's remember how we

1978
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,680
Speaker 1: start system right back then. Yeah, And that's what I

1979
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 1: think to a degree of what they're doing, they're saying,

1980
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:29,600
Speaker 1: let's go to this base outside zone is going to

1981
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,400
Speaker 1: be kind of our base. We're gonna build an offense

1982
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 1: out from that. It doesn't mean that that's everything that

1983
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 1: we're going to do, but that's the base foundation of it.

1984
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 1: And then maybe we'll get back to the point with

1985
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Mac And I mean, I think this kind of leads

1986
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: to the next question of you know, what does next

1987
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 1: year look like in success? Like if they let's say

1988
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 1: they have a good offensive year, you know, is is

1989
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,240
Speaker 1: it look the same? Do they you know, make that

1990
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,760
Speaker 1: Patricia the full time offensive corner, Like what's the long

1991
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:57,640
Speaker 1: range kind that can we just play a game this

1992
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,000
Speaker 1: year before we start well, I mean, like to Mike's point, like,

1993
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:05,040
Speaker 1: let's say the next three years are really good offensively, right, Yeah,

1994
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,560
Speaker 1: do we have to change the system because you know

1995
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,519
Speaker 1: it's getting too advanced. We have to change it and

1996
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, put a new system in because you know

1997
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: the guy's coming in. Josh's fault. Josh made it too complicated.

1998
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: No one else would ever. Now it's it's too bad.

1999
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 1: I wish that we got to see Tae Kwon Thornton

2000
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:26,240
Speaker 1: play with Brady and see because I think he has

2001
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: the ability. Oh yeah, that Nikil Harry didn't, right, And

2002
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:31,720
Speaker 1: I think that would have been the reason I think

2003
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 1: Tai Kwan, you know, maybe not, you know, maybe he

2004
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 1: ain't gonna catch fifty balls as a rookie, right, but

2005
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 1: he looks comfortable doing what they're asking him to do.

2006
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: Nikil Harry never did. I got I gotta imagine I'm

2007
01:39:42,760 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 1: imagining Tom Brady's eyes like, oh, I got me something

2008
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,240
Speaker 1: to play with right now, and it's uh. And I

2009
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: guess in hindsight, it's it's it's disappointing that you couldn't

2010
01:39:50,280 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 1: have had more of those kind of guys that just instantly,

2011
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, pop, even if they're not getting it exactly

2012
01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: right right out of the gate, they just they have

2013
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: the talent and if you could get them on the

2014
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,640
Speaker 1: same page, they're gonna make an end at Ray and

2015
01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, can you tell me what you see? And wise,

2016
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:06,679
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of him, to be honest.

2017
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 1: Do you all think he's good, Am I missing something? Yeah?

2018
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: This is this is one I've I don't. I don't

2019
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: really I wish everyone could see pol I think I'm waiting.

2020
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for thee. I he's not an every down player. No,

2021
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 1: he flashes at times. He does. I think he does

2022
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:31,760
Speaker 1: what's asked of him, but like nothing. I just think

2023
01:40:31,800 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 1: if you look the run game struggles, the rise of

2024
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 1: his kind of role in the defense has you know,

2025
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: has done nothing to kind of subside. I think he's

2026
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: you know, he's a sub rusher. I think in most

2027
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: defenses he's long. I think they like him because he

2028
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,720
Speaker 1: looks the part of a long guy that you know,

2029
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:50,000
Speaker 1: theoretically should be able to handle a lot on the

2030
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 1: defensive line. And I just I struggle to see his

2031
01:40:53,800 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: consistent impact. And I was surprised that they gave him

2032
01:40:56,040 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 1: a long term deal. I think he's a wonderful guy. Um,

2033
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 1: you know the stuff the last couple days aside, but

2034
01:41:01,160 --> 01:41:02,600
Speaker 1: you know, so that's why it's hard. It's like you

2035
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:04,720
Speaker 1: can understand as a locker room guy. Why why they

2036
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: really like him and his personality. I just I just

2037
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 1: don't see a consistent impact out of him. And I

2038
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:12,360
Speaker 1: keep wondering if someone like a Sam Roberts or a

2039
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: Lebryan Ray or someone of that could actually beat him,

2040
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: or Henry Anderson even But it just it seems like

2041
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise is right there with those top group of

2042
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 1: defensive linemen that they like, and you know, I hope

2043
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 1: it suddenly clicks, but it feels silly at this point.

2044
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: You know, whatever year he's entering, to expect something new

2045
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:31,719
Speaker 1: and exciting from him. Anthony has a game cut extend

2046
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 1: for four years, or trade away extend for four years,

2047
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,360
Speaker 1: or trade away from the hip group one Agaloor Harrison

2048
01:41:40,439 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 1: win which Harris. I imagine he's talking about Damien, but

2049
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 1: he doesn't specify. Wow, could just be like let expire,

2050
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: So I think cut his win right? Oh okay, I

2051
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: say sorry, I misunderstood. First trade away a galore and

2052
01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:01,400
Speaker 1: then don't want to I want to extend, Harris. I

2053
01:42:01,400 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 1: don't want to extend any of those guys for four years. Yeah,

2054
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:08,000
Speaker 1: but you have to base the game. Probably extend. I

2055
01:42:08,040 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: would probably extend because we really haven't seen like the

2056
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 1: running game that much to say a thing about Damien Harris,

2057
01:42:16,479 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 1: and he's been barking a lot, and I don't like it.

2058
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 1: It's a tough one. Yeah, I would Aggalore be the

2059
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a better player than Harris, So you

2060
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: would extend him, but cut Wine. But I don't think

2061
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: that's Harris. Just because I think you got depth at

2062
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 1: running back, you don't have any You don't have any

2063
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,479
Speaker 1: depth with with Win. I guess i'd try to trade

2064
01:42:34,560 --> 01:42:40,320
Speaker 1: him group two Mac Jones, Christian Barmore or jude On. Okay,

2065
01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: cut jude On. So extend and what do you do

2066
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,240
Speaker 1: with math? Trade? No, I think it's a trade math.

2067
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 1: I like it. TV, I like it. I like Barmore

2068
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:59,120
Speaker 1: a lot. Controversial she went evil, TV went I would

2069
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 1: I would have to extend Max. I'd have to trade

2070
01:43:01,439 --> 01:43:04,519
Speaker 1: Barmore because I think I could get the most for him. Yeah, yeah,

2071
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: I think that's a good You think you can get

2072
01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: more for barnmore than Jones. Huh, But I need a controversial.

2073
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: I don't I go of the two left? Of the

2074
01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 1: two left? I would I think I could get more

2075
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:19,639
Speaker 1: for Barmore. You must you know you need a quarterback.

2076
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:21,760
Speaker 1: So why I would extend Max? Yeah, you know, of course,

2077
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: the extend Max. You don't think you can get much more? No,

2078
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: I do, but I think I could get I don't

2079
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 1: think that good right, perfect, But I'm looking at my knees.

2080
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: I need the quarterbacks, so he's he's a given. And

2081
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 1: then of the two, I think Barmore I can get more.

2082
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: So I would I would agree with Fred. I think

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01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 1: if you think that Mac Jones is your quarterback, you've

2084
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:42,960
Speaker 1: got to extend your quarterback. Yeah, I will say that.

2085
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I just one thing I've been saying is I just

2086
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,160
Speaker 1: want a full season on a Christian Barmo. I just

2087
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: want to see what he's capable of in a full season,

2088
01:43:49,120 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, and and and and and as we've been

2089
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 1: talking about NFL Defensive Player of the Year candidate deepot Well,

2090
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:58,680
Speaker 1: I mean he'd have to play more than third down.

2091
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 1: So you think next group, Marcus Jones, Kyle Dugger or

2092
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,879
Speaker 1: Josh I guess he means Joshua Bloodsha. I would extend

2093
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. Paul likes Marcus Jones. I like me some

2094
01:44:14,160 --> 01:44:17,560
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones. I like Marcus Jones is too, I like them.

2095
01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 1: It's quick trade Dugger, sure, yeah, cut blood zone, Yeah,

2096
01:44:23,320 --> 01:44:25,760
Speaker 1: no offense, Josh Blood. Two more groups might be able

2097
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:32,600
Speaker 1: to get something. Andrews Brown and on when you, I

2098
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: guess extend I would cut Brown trade on when you

2099
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 1: and Keith Andrews extend him for you. Yeah, yeah, that

2100
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 1: sounds about right. And then finally Parker John u and

2101
01:44:45,720 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Ousche Parker John. It's another one. I don't want to

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01:44:55,160 --> 01:44:59,120
Speaker 1: extend anything. Probably I would probably extend to Uche even

2103
01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: though he hasn't really done anything, just because he's the

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01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:03,679
Speaker 1: youngest guy. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't

2105
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: feel I don't feel great about it's a it's a

2106
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,360
Speaker 1: no win game. I don't like this game. I don't

2107
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: like that, Freddie, I don't like it. Maybe say bad

2108
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: things about Mac. I don't like this game. I like

2109
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: the game, but the the pairings are tough. Yeah, well

2110
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,720
Speaker 1: that's the idea to make it tough. I will say

2111
01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:22,760
Speaker 1: that the people, the architects of these games do a

2112
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 1: great job of thinking bunching the players your GM for

2113
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:30,280
Speaker 1: a day. Name one player you would trade three first

2114
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 1: round picks for that you feel would guarantee us a

2115
01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 1: playoff appearance. Oh stop it? Do you not allowed to say?

2116
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:43,680
Speaker 1: He wants to Shaun Watson. I could rattle off ten

2117
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: quarterback and Josh Allen Patrick Mahons, Rogers, Yeah, I mean Brady. Right,

2118
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:52,879
Speaker 1: my conscious more allows let's say no quarterback because quarterbacks

2119
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:55,640
Speaker 1: are easy choice. Aaron Rodgers, you know, any of the

2120
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: let's say it can't be a quarterback. Make it a

2121
01:45:58,720 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: little tougher. I don't know, Jamar Chase, but like three

2122
01:46:05,240 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 1: first round picks, I'm not giving three first I mean

2123
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 1: non quarterback. I don't know who I would give it,

2124
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 1: and I probably just you're clear. I wouldn't give three

2125
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: first round picks for Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady either

2126
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,560
Speaker 1: because they're too old. But I would do it for

2127
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: Mahomes or Josh Allen. I would say, waddle, I love me,

2128
01:46:21,880 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. That was my numbers two if he still

2129
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 1: willing to run the ball once in a while. I

2130
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:32,400
Speaker 1: mean I was getting up there. Yeah, you're trading away

2131
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: a lot of future for a guy who talked about

2132
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:38,960
Speaker 1: retirement already. Yeah. The question is, basically, who would you

2133
01:46:39,439 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 1: think that they could acquire non quarterback that would guarantee

2134
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: you a playoff spot. Yeah, that's that's a better way

2135
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:47,200
Speaker 1: to put it, because I'm not given three first round

2136
01:46:47,240 --> 01:46:51,559
Speaker 1: picks for anybody. I don't know, just any any impact

2137
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,120
Speaker 1: front seven kind of a guy. Who's the best cornerback

2138
01:46:55,200 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 1: in the game today depends on who you it's hard

2139
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:07,240
Speaker 1: Zavian Howard, but there's no like clear anymore, you know,

2140
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:13,679
Speaker 1: uh Norman good guys. A j. Terrellis in that group

2141
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: that I don't know if he's you know, I don't

2142
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: know because like even Ramsey like may have had a

2143
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,960
Speaker 1: lot of missteps last year, he has too much mouth

2144
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: for me to be I can't like, I can't this

2145
01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:30,120
Speaker 1: is a clear talks your best pure pass rusher in

2146
01:47:30,200 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 1: the game not named Darreon Donald Bosa. Yeah, maybe Bosa

2147
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:42,479
Speaker 1: a monster year um for the Raiders, right, Max Crosby.

2148
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:44,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think there's a lot

2149
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: of good players kind of give me that you would

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01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,080
Speaker 1: give three first round? Yeah, I don't think I would

2151
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 1: give three first round. I mean I would give it

2152
01:47:53,880 --> 01:47:56,560
Speaker 1: for like a Josh Allen or a Mahomes, like a

2153
01:47:56,720 --> 01:47:59,280
Speaker 1: young stud quarterback that I can have for the next

2154
01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 1: ten to twelve. Yeah, I would do it for that.

2155
01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 1: I'd give up a lot for Jordan Davis, I think,

2156
01:48:03,720 --> 01:48:05,679
Speaker 1: even though he hasn't played it down yet in the NFL,

2157
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick retire the idea if Bill Belichick retires, would

2158
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: you give three first round picks for Sean McVeagh. Oh, no,

2159
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 1: I would do that for Mike Tomlin, you would you

2160
01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: have to say that. But is there a head coach

2161
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: that you would give up three first round picks for?

2162
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 1: Not me? No, I don't know. I mean maybe maybe

2163
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: with McVeigh. I mean, I think, I just I mean,

2164
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking almost more of I'm just saying the value.

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01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,519
Speaker 1: If you really love a head coach, I think three

2166
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,560
Speaker 1: round that's fair. I'm also just considering the experience for

2167
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:42,120
Speaker 1: us specifically, like with a head coach like that who

2168
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: seems like they're pretty open and accessible and you know,

2169
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: so I think feeling to me selfish, going selfish, I know,

2170
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,040
Speaker 1: but I but but also for football reasons. I mean,

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01:48:52,080 --> 01:48:53,640
Speaker 1: I think he would be uh, you know, I think

2172
01:48:53,640 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 1: he'd be enjoyable to be round, but I think he

2173
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:56,640
Speaker 1: would he'd be able to put some things together. But

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01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 1: he's another guy that said I don't know if I

2175
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: want to keep doing this, and he been you know,

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01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to vote. Tomlin has been able to have

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01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: a winning record with some very questions solutely. I mean,

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01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: you heard Paul after the Antonio Brown thing happened. Here,

2179
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: Paul was like, I'm singing this whole new tune on

2180
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,240
Speaker 1: Mike tom last Like I always thought Mike tom was

2181
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of average as a coach. I thought they had

2182
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,640
Speaker 1: great talent and we're always good, but never great. Then

2183
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: the whole Antonio Brown thing happened, and I said, I

2184
01:49:24,080 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: have so much more respect for Mike Tomlin than I

2185
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 1: ever had, based on the fact that he kept that

2186
01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: train on the tracks for all that time with that guy. Yeah,

2187
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I really gained a lot of respect for him.

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01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: Between him and Flores, they got like the coolest sideline like,

2189
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: and Flora's dressed in the Steelers It's like scary to me,

2190
01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: just like the hat pulled down, and like I just

2191
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:45,760
Speaker 1: I think, I think it's a perfect for him and

2192
01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: unfortunately for us. Let's go to Dan in Virginia in Michigan.

2193
01:49:51,040 --> 01:49:54,600
Speaker 1: What's up, Dan. I think Tomlin enabled all of that

2194
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 1: rather than actually keeping a little up that that's a

2195
01:49:56,840 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 1: discussion for another day. That's fired. Yeah, and they won that.

2196
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 1: That's the point. That's exactly the point is he was

2197
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,920
Speaker 1: able to deal with it and have success with it.

2198
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like Bill Belichick with Lawrence Taylor. Like,

2199
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,879
Speaker 1: I give a lot of credit to Parcels and Belichick

2200
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 1: for being able to win at a high level with

2201
01:50:17,560 --> 01:50:21,599
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor outdoing cocaine god knows what, right, Like, that's hard.

2202
01:50:21,720 --> 01:50:23,600
Speaker 1: They were able to keep enough of a lid on

2203
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: it to keep winning. Yeah. Um, that's the actual subject

2204
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 1: of my call. First off, I wanted to say, Fred,

2205
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:35,759
Speaker 1: I think you've got the best team that uh PFW

2206
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: slash pu is has ever had. It's not just a

2207
01:50:38,280 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 1: matter of the numbers of people that you've got. I

2208
01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:44,040
Speaker 1: think right now, the particular micks of people that you have, um,

2209
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 1: is the best that you've ever had. Not to um,

2210
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: not to dinner rate other people what they brought to

2211
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:54,720
Speaker 1: the show, but I think the particular people you've got

2212
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,200
Speaker 1: involved right now, all the way from the people that

2213
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 1: appear on air and write the content online to you know,

2214
01:51:00,120 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 1: to Matt Matise and the boot to party on the

2215
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:04,760
Speaker 1: pre and postgame show, I think this is the best

2216
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: team you've ever had. So and I think it's something

2217
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,320
Speaker 1: going to get better as as Tamar and Alex and

2218
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Evan all get kind of more comfortable and um. But

2219
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 1: as for an actual football question, so Jojuan Williams is

2220
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 1: out worth perhaps the first ever of self inflicted case

2221
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 1: of the Foxborough flu, and but was also gone for

2222
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:34,919
Speaker 1: the year. The previous opinion of this of the cornerbacks

2223
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,960
Speaker 1: seemed to be that the team had depth, but not

2224
01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:42,720
Speaker 1: necessary a lot of talent, given that you've lost a

2225
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 1: couple of bodies. But it seems like in the pre

2226
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: in the um practice games and training and so forth,

2227
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: it seems a couple of the cornerbacks have risen, like

2228
01:51:51,360 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: Mills and so forth. Is your opinion of the cornerbacks

2229
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 1: overall is a better worth state about the same? See?

2230
01:51:58,640 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: And it's a great question. It's really a good question.

2231
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: If I was just basing on who's had good days

2232
01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:07,120
Speaker 1: so far in camp, I would say, Wow, this cornerback

2233
01:52:07,280 --> 01:52:09,439
Speaker 1: group is better than I thought it was. But who

2234
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 1: were they playing against? I don't know that yet. But

2235
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: right now they've come out and they've shown more than

2236
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I thought they would right away. And the loss of

2237
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 1: Butler and uh Williams doesn't change that for me, because,

2238
01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,479
Speaker 1: like you said, Jalen Mills, you got the you know

2239
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: all the Joneses, Um, you got Sean Wade, who's I

2240
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:33,720
Speaker 1: think he's shown something. You know, so I but who

2241
01:52:33,760 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 1: are they playing against? I don't know the answer to that. So,

2242
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:40,160
Speaker 1: but right now, I like what I'm seeing. I like

2243
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 1: what I'm seeing. I mean, it would have felt better

2244
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: if they had the veterans looking good like Terrence Mitchell,

2245
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,639
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. I would have felt better if those guys

2246
01:52:49,680 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: were playing more prominent roles, going to be the kids,

2247
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,640
Speaker 1: and I worry about that. Ye yep. I mean, I

2248
01:52:55,720 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: think Mitchell with still some veteran you know, with andbrill

2249
01:53:01,720 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 1: peppers the corner. No, I know, but you've got the

2250
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:08,719
Speaker 1: safeties back. They're kind of orchestrating things if you're gonna

2251
01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: use young kids. I think. I like, I like having

2252
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: that experience. I would feel better about it if if

2253
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:17,640
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler like sort of like, oh yeah, I see this,

2254
01:53:17,760 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: I see what. That's the guy I remember. I would

2255
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,560
Speaker 1: have felt better about it if if he looked like

2256
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 1: his old self, and he didn't. He didn't that. Yeah,

2257
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: and it feels like they I mean, I think Terrence

2258
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:30,160
Speaker 1: Mitchell's had had some nice plays and has played pretty well,

2259
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like he's entrenched at that outside

2260
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: corner spot in their mind. It's he started there, they

2261
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:38,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't have Jonathan stup what they had right. So I

2262
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,040
Speaker 1: think it is a question about about depth. And as

2263
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 1: Fred said, there's so many good teams like just start

2264
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: matching up on the outside and you know it's it's

2265
01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:47,920
Speaker 1: you feel great about Jaylen Mills right now. But you know,

2266
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: let's see what happens next week with Davante Adams. Let's

2267
01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:51,880
Speaker 1: see when they get to Tyree Call in a couple

2268
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:54,280
Speaker 1: of weeks. Like, I mean, the right out of the gate,

2269
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna be hit in the face with speed every week.

2270
01:53:57,120 --> 01:53:59,800
Speaker 1: Why do they every week? What are they gonna do? Right? Right? So,

2271
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 1: you know, I think they can they can match up

2272
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:03,679
Speaker 1: in the slot and with the safeties they can handle

2273
01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: running best Titans. But it's just it's the outside receivers

2274
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: and you know what they can be able to do

2275
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 1: enough with their safeties to not get corners lined up

2276
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:12,519
Speaker 1: on an island. And you know, we saw with Jonathan

2277
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:14,880
Speaker 1: Jones dealing with taller guys like I would have hoped

2278
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,640
Speaker 1: to have in Dan. I don't think it's the end

2279
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 1: of the world losing John Williams and Malcolm Butler, I don't,

2280
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 1: But I would have hoped that best case scenario, Mitchell

2281
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: or Butler was like entrenched as a starter, you know,

2282
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: and you had those three guys and then Jonathan Jones

2283
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: in the slot. And now I can use like Marcus

2284
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: Jones like I used Butler in fourteen. Like, I'm going

2285
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 1: to find a way to get this guy in the

2286
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,800
Speaker 1: field because he's coming on and I think he has

2287
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,920
Speaker 1: some talent and I can work him in, you know,

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Speaker 1: and advantageous situations. I think Marcus Jones right now is

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Speaker 1: going to be a key guy. And I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a lot. I think that's a lot

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Speaker 1: for like a third round route. Yeah, I hope he

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Speaker 1: plays tomorrow. That I mean, he didn't play at all,

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Speaker 1: one of the only rookies not to play. So and

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Speaker 1: I like, don't forget I've been I've been really bullish.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. You don't. He's not your guy anymore.

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Speaker 1: He's been pushed out. No, I mean, I'm saying I

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Speaker 1: would feel better if the veterans were clearly like I

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Speaker 1: think that there's been no difference between Miles Bryan in In,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Stans with the veterans. And you can look at

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Speaker 1: that and say, well, the young guys push those older

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Speaker 1: guys out. But I think the older guys just don't

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Speaker 1: look that good. Like I think Malcolm Butler did not

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Speaker 1: look like the Malcolm Butler of old. Did you guys

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Speaker 1: feel like that? I thought he was. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: remember the stink face you gave Hardy one, you know,

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Speaker 1: the good kind of the good nomination in the postgame show, right,

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Speaker 1: my wrongs, I'm not I'm not mischaracterizing. No, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think it was like tread and water and kind

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Speaker 1: of hoping that it would start to come around and

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Speaker 1: not gonna rust off. You're not going to those guys

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Speaker 1: hoping those guys run, and I don't. And I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen much from Terrence Mitchell either. Like these guys I

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Speaker 1: would have hoped would have been clearly candidates to be

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Speaker 1: the starters, and I think they're gonna be young. They

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Speaker 1: still got some questions. Well, Jalen Mills, you still got

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Speaker 1: Jalen Mills, right, Yeah, that's where the definitely, I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: on the Jalen Mills train. He's played well. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: he's played well. Another another guy that's gonna have some tough,

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Speaker 1: tough matchups though, you know, and I don't know I

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Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna feel about like, Okay, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: put him on Tyree Hill opening day or Jalen Wattle

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Speaker 1: opening day. Do you feel good about that Matchuppe. No,

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Speaker 1: it's a team effort. They're gonna have to play zone

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01:56:32,920 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 1: to start they're gonna do. I mean, they're gonna need some.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll play a lot of zone. They need

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Speaker 1: to spin the dial, I think, I mean as much

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01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: as about zone versus match just I think they need

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01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:43,160
Speaker 1: to know who they are and play to their strengths.

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Speaker 1: And I mean it is the safeties. But I think

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna believe anything until we get in the

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Speaker 1: regular season. And there's the thing. You know, there's all

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Speaker 1: vary agents, there's man zone. You know, there's all man

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Speaker 1: and supporting the Matt rule. The Patriots have seventy five

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01:56:59,240 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 1: different defense looks, according to his press conference. Certain they

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Speaker 1: threw them all up there on Tuesday, guys from everywhere

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Yeah, they probably do. All right, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered Tomorrow night

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Speaker 1: for thirty pregame show and then of course the post

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Speaker 1: games show. A lot of shows this week, right, let's

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Speaker 1: go Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Good thing. I like you guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, so we'll talk to you tomorrow. Bye. Thank

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