1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions in ocasion didn't notice. I'm not broke. 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: You know. He'll be interview with celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, it's 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan McDonald. Money Making Conversations Here we come. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show, money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: host with Sean McDonald. I recognize that we all have 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: different definitions for success. For you, it may be the 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: size of your paycheck. Mine has inspired people to develop 13 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: a plan to reach their dreams. It's time to stop 14 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 15 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: You can only exceed the expectations by believing in yourself. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose or gifts. If you 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning a 19 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: living your dreams. My guess is a Paul Ryan. She's 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: a White House correspondent, CNN political analysts, DC bureau chief 21 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 1: for The Grio, Arthur and speaker. And her book Black 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: Women Will Save the World and Anthem. Author Apral Ryan 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: celebrates black women's resilience and strength, champion those who have 24 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: transformed their pain in the progress despite economic, political, and 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: social challenges. The book celebrates America's founding black women are 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: mothers as she rose, as well as today's black women 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: leaders like voting right activists Stacy Abrows, Farmer Atlanta mayor 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: teacher Lunch Bottoms pull A surprize winner, the co Hannah 29 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: Can the Cohannah Jones, and Vice President Kamala Harris, to 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: name just a few. Apri Ran also pays tribute to mothers, nurses, teachers, activists, 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: and community leaders, knowing that all Black women make the 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 1: extraordinary ordinary. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass, April Ryan. 33 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for happening me. I'm so excited to be with you. 34 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Thank you well. You know you are a face I'm 35 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: very familiar with, April uh. But first before I even 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: get into that, you know, I want to acknowledge the 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: fact that there you are an HBCU graduate Morrigan State. 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: Sean Yes, Morgan State, and a good friend of mine, 39 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: Kevin Frasier went to Morgan State too, didn't he Morgan 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: State contribute? Good? Aer I Allas makes the league. Christ 41 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: In food a Wilson Good. Come on earls, my man, 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: that's my man. You know, because when when the that 43 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,919 Speaker 1: the George Floyd incident happens in color incident murder should 44 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: be called a social upheaval in this country and in 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: the world. You know, HBCUs will basically push to the forefront. 46 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: And then there's a lot of corporate and um private 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: donations made to hbc US and even this year it 48 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: was over two billion dollar contributions to HBCUs. With that 49 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: being said, and I was pretty black excellence. When I 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: talked about HBCUs, we started noting the amount of academic 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: success that really is found a lot of those schools 52 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: into the everyday culture we call America. What is your 53 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: reaction to going to an hbc U because your mother 54 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: taught an hbc U and how its impacted impact on 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: the world today. Well, my mother was director of student activity. 56 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: She didn't teach, but she and a lot of those 57 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: students um still here today. But now I'm an HBCU baby. 58 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: I grew up on on an hbc U campus, Morgan 59 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: State University. UM. Growing up on a campus, you're exposed 60 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: to a lot of excellence. You're exposed to open mind 61 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: and and and uh open open mind is UM if 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: you would say, UM, I experienced a lot of exploratory 63 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: pursuits about life before I even knew would life right? 64 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: You know, and that allows you to be able to 65 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: have that you know, that ability to the resiliency that 66 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: you talk about in your book as a black woman, 67 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: but also the resiliency to handle situation, that uncomfortable situation 68 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: and when you're just trying to do your job like 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: you've been doing, as we've seen play out at the 70 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: White House, play out with the personal I felt attacked 71 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: by then President Donald Trump. How did you handle that? 72 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: And who were the people with the support system around 73 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: you to allow you to continue to give you strength 74 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: to do your job on a daily basis. Black women 75 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: were my support. Black women to UM would see me 76 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: on the street and be like, Sis, I'm praying for you. 77 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: For UM. You know, people like, yeah, some black women say, 78 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: I put my hand out praying. You know, when you 79 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: came on so so God with God the conversation, you know, 80 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: I mean, black women really rallied around me, and I 81 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: heard somebody come frying. You know, I saw the microaggressions 82 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: on the job and it reminded me of me, and 83 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, you just really don't realize what other people 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: are going through and the common thread. Um. You know, 85 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: I had so many people support me, and I don't 86 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: want to just call out names, but there were so 87 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: many people that supported me. But I want to think 88 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: I think mostly about black women, particularly as that president 89 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: vilified many black women during his time in office throughout 90 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: it years. You know, the interesting thing about it is 91 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: that you know, when you you became a face, you 92 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: became a brand that you know, became an individual. You 93 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: were forced into the public side. And I'm not saying 94 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: that's what you wanted to accomplish in your career, because 95 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: I don't know your career aspirations, But when you were 96 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: being challenged consistent like that, how did that impact your 97 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: personal life? I know people came up on the streets because, 98 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: like I said, you you were constantly I felt on 99 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: their attack. So and you said black women gave you support, 100 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: but internally how to what what? What with the resiliency 101 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: that that gave you the drive to say I'm right. 102 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm a stand for what I believe in. This is 103 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: what I went to college for. This is my this 104 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: is my dream, this is my career. And nobody's gonna 105 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: back me down. All that you said, I mean, I 106 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: didn't do anything wrong. I stand on the shoulders of 107 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 1: my family. My answers is my late mother and father. 108 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: I stand. There's of HBC, is the black community Baltimore City. 109 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,239 Speaker 1: I did nothing wrong. I asked him questions. He didn't 110 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: want to answer questions about a black community, that about 111 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: the black community that he could have cared less about. Um, 112 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: that's just my fact um. And at the end of 113 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: the day, Um, how was I attacked? I was attacked 114 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: in every way. I had the FBI come to my home. 115 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: I have had bomb spots come to my home. You know, 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it sounds like a movie, but it was 117 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: my life and it was a price to pay. But 118 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: why would I run? And maybe it was fight or flight, 119 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I didn't fly or run away. 120 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: Maybe it was fight, But that did nothing wrong. Too 121 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: many people worked too hard for me to get in 122 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: that space for me to go somewhere because of someone else. 123 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Absolutely, I'm speaking to April Ryan. 124 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: She's White House correspondency and Pillows analysts. We're talking about 125 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: her book, Black Women Will Save the World an anthem, 126 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: also about her personal life and some of the journeys 127 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: that she's had to endure being an HBC you graduate 128 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: working at the White House, especially covering it during the 129 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: Trump administration. Now, let's get to the book, Black Women 130 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Will Save the World, because it's really a history book 131 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: and talking to about you know, the Civil War times 132 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: and spies. We know that a lot of people may 133 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: not know that Harry Tubman was really a spy, you 134 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: know when she when she uh sought freedom. But you're 135 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: talking you touched on a lot of different areas just 136 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: to let us know how women have slid in their 137 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: layer level of commitment and that you may or may 138 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: not be aware of. What was the journey of the 139 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: book and the purpose. Well, this book has been years 140 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: in the making. Um I presented it to Harpercollums many 141 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 1: years ago, and they knew that I wanted to write 142 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: this and it just wasn't the time. And then when 143 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris was the Vice President of the United States, 144 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: just aid, wait a minute, so you know, and they 145 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: saw other black women in prominent positions, It's okay, let's 146 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: do this. And then the stars lined up with Katanshi 147 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: Brown Jackson being um nominated to the United States Supreme Court. 148 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I was ahead of my time, 149 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: but this was the right time, and it all came together. 150 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't We weren't plotting out of planning, but this 151 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: is something I wanted to write for a long time 152 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: and happened at this moment. The right You could not 153 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: craft the best moment like this is the you can 154 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: never think about back for the moment. We got the 155 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: moment just perhaps. And you know, and now as we 156 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: go to the polls, as black women are going to 157 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: posts to make decisions for their homes, we are uh 158 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: the black population. We're a large voting block for the 159 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: Democratic Party. We are we are decider in elections. We 160 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: have changed the red states blue Stacy Abrams and that 161 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: the black women with Roy Moore and Doug Jones voting 162 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: for Doug Jones in Alabama a few years back. We 163 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: have power that they don't want to let us know 164 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: we have mark the moment and say who we are. 165 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: It's important, you know when you look at that, because 166 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 1: that's that's you know, we always talk about the role 167 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: of the black women. I have my six sisters, so 168 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: I know the role of the black woman. And I 169 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: grew up a five or older than me, and so 170 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: they reminded me of my position in the family many 171 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: times with loving, loving smiles. Um. But but but the vote, 172 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the vote of the black person, the black pession of 173 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: the vote of the black woman. Right now, these elections 174 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: are gonna turn on the vote of the black woman. 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: Are the black populace? But in the end, you know, 176 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: you have Democratic a Republicans. You have is so extreme. Now, 177 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: what do you see the state of politics from your perspective, 178 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,719 Speaker 1: because you're right in there. You've seen the shift the dynamics, 179 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: and when President Obama came into the office and they 180 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: was heckling them during the state of his State of 181 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: the Union address. You've seen this this kind of like 182 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: verbal and social abuse that Cope called, that's being called 183 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: out on a daily basis on social media. So where 184 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: are we at as a black person in America, a 185 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: black woman in America or is our vote being taken 186 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: for granted? Is the is the power of the woman 187 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: to shift the narrative? Is the who can be elected 188 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: in the state or in the White House being taken 189 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: for granted? April? Yes, most definitely. And I say that 190 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: on apologetically and very straightforward. Um. It is because if 191 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: it weren't, we would have a lot more push. It 192 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: takes black women to go into the United Senate Office 193 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: building to march about voting rights and then get arrested. 194 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: Right but Martin is King the third got arrested in 195 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: front of White House on voting rights. Black people and 196 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the vote have been taken for granted for centuries. And 197 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: the only way from the unique perch that I sit in, 198 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: the only way we see action is when the squeaky 199 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: wheel gets oiled, and the wheel has got to squeek 200 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: persistently and consistently. And when I say black people and 201 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: the voters taken for granted, let's just look at this. 202 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: This is not myth, This is not conjecture, is fact. 203 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: The black community still has the highest numbers of negatives 204 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: in almost every category. Award is not safe to drink 205 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: in Jackson. It's not just in Jackson, Flint has never 206 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: had its problem fixed. Okay, our housing costs. We have 207 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: the one point five million units short to have affordable 208 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: housing in this nation the way the government wants it 209 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: to look. We're preyed upon financially, I mean, and so on. 210 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: It's on our health care. Do we have it the 211 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: way it should be? No, I mean our education. I mean, 212 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,599 Speaker 1: the list goes on and imprisonment, police, brutality, it just 213 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: hits every climate change. We are impacted asthma. Can you say, Katrina, 214 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: we live right in those dangerous spaces where we can 215 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 1: lose our home. The list goes on and on, and 216 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: if we were not taken for granted, these ills would 217 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: not be so pervasive and so ever present as they 218 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: are today. We'll be right back with more Money Making 219 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money 220 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. You know, you know 221 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: and reading your book or because you could have chosen 222 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: a lot of different women there to uh to discuss 223 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: your book. Black Women will Save the World an anthem 224 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: and she's mentioned in the movements and then in the 225 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: red of the book. I'm talking about former First Lady 226 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. I thought, in the process of just reading 227 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: your book and looking at you know, what's happening with 228 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: Supreme Court Justice Brown and the Vice President Harris, that 229 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: I felt that she was just as instrumental her role. 230 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: How she played out, I felt enabled them to be 231 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: considered by the country, be as a as a candidate 232 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: for vice president, to be considered by the country, as 233 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: to play the role as a Spring Court justice. When 234 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: you were selecting the various imagery or stories that you 235 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: was putting in this book, what did you see her? 236 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: And I know, like it's till everybody. She's mentioned in 237 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: the movement section of the book, But where did you 238 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: see her? As we talked about it, our impact, that's 239 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: a black woman in this movement? Michelle Obama? Oh, Michelle 240 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: Obama most definitely. I mean people people who still want 241 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: her to run for office, and she's like no, no, no, 242 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: no, no no. You know, Um, she is very impactful. Her 243 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: numbers and just as high, her whole numbers. Her fool 244 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: rating to this day still just as high as the 245 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: former president. They're called forever for a reason because people 246 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: connect to her because she came from the South Side 247 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: of Chicago, like um, Kataji Bround Jackson. You know, she 248 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: was told she couldn't, you know, or or she felt 249 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: she couldn't. But for Kataji, there was a janitor said, 250 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: you can keep going, Please keep going. Don't you be 251 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: so upset. But she's at Harvard. For Michelle, Michelle, from 252 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama. From Michelle Obama, there were people who told 253 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: her she couldn't, and she chose to in spite of 254 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: and I hate to say this, you know, it's a 255 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: rag the richest story, but in a whole different way. 256 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: Average American living in the South Side of Chicago going 257 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: to the who looked like me, who ancestor of a 258 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: slave slaves built the White House, and she so eloquently 259 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: likes to remind people. But she rose to the highest 260 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: of heights. If it weren't for Michelle Obama, the chick 261 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: from the South Side, Barack Obama would not be President 262 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: of the United States. If it weren't from Michelle Obama 263 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: and her connection to Valerie Jared, Barack Obama would not 264 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: be the President of the United States. Two black women 265 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: helped move Barack Obama to become the most one of 266 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: the most six US for presidents in our modern history 267 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: two Black women, and the sad piece about it is 268 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: from Michelle Obama. She's still invisible because when her and 269 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Valdie Jared would go out, you know, away from the 270 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: White House and walk, you know, walk around. Michelle Obama 271 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: is very statue used. You can't miss her, miss her. 272 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: Even if she has a baseball camp on, people didn't 273 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: pay attention to her. She is a marker for movement 274 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: because she moved. She told us to move for our health. 275 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: She told us, you know, when they go low, we 276 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: go high. Sometimes we accept that, sometimes we do. But 277 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: and she also helped stee Or. She she focused in 278 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: on our military. She focused in on so many things 279 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: that others had not. She kept it real um. She 280 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: is part of the movement of black women who activate 281 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: because they have to and for all intents and purposes, 282 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: because of her illness, because of her proximity to power 283 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: and her understanding of people and situations. She could be 284 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: a politician if she wanted to, if she wanted to, 285 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: she could be anything she wanted to be because she's 286 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: she's worked for. She's got a pedigree by putting her 287 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: husband in that space, by standing next to him, by 288 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: working with Valley she is, She's a movement all into herself. 289 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, she she is a symbol of black woman 290 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: whose strength and womanhood standing the side and sometimes behind 291 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: her husband, but she is the strength of black woman 292 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: how to get it done. Even as he has a shine, 293 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 1: she's still shot him on the other side, on her 294 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: own and making it happen. So yeah, she is one 295 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,359 Speaker 1: of those examples that has helped keep laying the groundwork 296 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: for women black women to be in these spaces because 297 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: every success that we see of a black woman just 298 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: lays the foundation for the next success. Wow, I'm speaking 299 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: with April Ryan. Black women will save the world. And 300 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: anthem is the name of the book, an anthem. What 301 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: do you mean when you room when you make that 302 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: statement in anthem? If you're in the Black church, you 303 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: know what anthem means over and over and over again, 304 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: with over and over again and believing it over and 305 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 1: over again. Black women will save the world. Black women 306 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: will save the world. Not only will we save the world, 307 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: we have, we are and we shall when we will. 308 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Just talk about something doesn't go away that's still in 309 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: the news today is the January six riot or insurrection 310 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: as they call it. Uh, how did that affect you 311 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: when it happened and how I been watching it play out? 312 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: What what are your comments max and Waters? People like 313 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: Maxie Waters, commons want Maxie Waters who called it out 314 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: As you read the book, he called it out, and 315 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: they didn't listen to her. She asked questions. They didn't 316 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: listen to her. And but Maximum Waters before January six 317 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: and I did the interview, she said, don't you come 318 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: here to Washington? She told me, don't come to Washington. 319 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: Valley told me, don't you go to Washington On January six, 320 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: I chose not to. I was in my home safe 321 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: watching it on TV, losing my mind. I had my 322 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: dog had done something to the carpet. Carpet cleaner was here, 323 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: guy I've known for many years, and he was like, 324 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: calm down. I said, no, do you not see what's happening? 325 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: And he didn't understand why I was getting so hysterical, 326 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: But once he really took time to look, I said, 327 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: do you not see what they're doing? If one hair 328 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: or any of those congressional leaders head, if someone would 329 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: have died, we may not be sitting here today speaking 330 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: about how black women will save the world and anthem. 331 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: Just look what happened to Nancy Pelosi's husband, these conspiracy theories, 332 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: is angst about the fact that Joe Biden's present all 333 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: these things, that this ideology that Donald Trump has left 334 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: with some of these people, it's still playing out. And 335 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: these are scary times. These are very scary times. Were 336 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: you right in the like like you said, you're right 337 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: in the you can be listed as a target April 338 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: and these scary times, That's what I guess. I guess 339 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: huh again, I can't. You said I can't be I 340 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: am a target? Well, you know, I don't want to 341 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: go there. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the 342 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: person that comes out or even say that on my show. 343 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: But I will use the word can be listed as 344 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: a target, because you know where you stand. Because give 345 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: us comment. How do you how do you wake up? 346 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: How do you get on the plane, how do you 347 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: go to the grocery store? How do you go to 348 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: a restaurant? What you're feeling that way? Knowing that, especially 349 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: what happened to uh, you know, Congressman Pelosi's husband, Your safety, 350 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: my safety is paramount, My children's safety is paramount. Well, 351 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: you've got precautions and we work towards um safety. UM, 352 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: my head is always on the swivel. But you know, 353 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: we're in some very different times, times that I have 354 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: never imagined we've been. But I mean, you know, without 355 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: going into everything, you know, you never say oh I'm safe. 356 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: You always you're always watchful. And you know I've had, 357 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: like I said, I've had the FBI, the bomb squard 358 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: and everything in my home, you know, and our detailing 359 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: in the book. We're in some crazy times. And you know, 360 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: people from my condemn this. No, you need to call 361 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: for the people to go to jail, for criminal charges 362 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: to be placed against Sese people. This has got to stop. Well, 363 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: I agree, But you know, as you approach your twenty 364 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: six year of being at the White House, what are 365 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: your most memorable moments week? Everybody has a memberable moments 366 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: of everybody I know in my life. When I look back, 367 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: I've asked people questions and I go, I wish you 368 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't have said that, or I asked him the question, 369 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I get a reaction. I went wild. I didn't think 370 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: they had to respond that way. But when you look 371 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: at your career at the White House, what are your 372 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: what are some of the moments that you stand back 373 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 1: and go I thought my chest. Some of the moments 374 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: go I wish, I wish I had asked that a 375 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 1: different way. Oh no, I don't regret anything, but some 376 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: of the some of the moments that stand out to 377 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: me are not news necessarily. Those are the moments that 378 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: that one percent when after you work so hard, you 379 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: finally get the chance to let your hand out. But 380 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to news, you know, asking questions about 381 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: the black farmers and and and and and their money 382 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the first time around with Bill Clinton 383 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 1: and then finally the black farmers getting their money during 384 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: uh the Obama years, asking questions about you know, UH slavery, 385 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: asking questions about policing, asking questions about Katrina. It's always 386 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: about the story, not about me. It's about information, asking 387 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: questions for information to help people and their day, their 388 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: life would have you And that's what it's about. And 389 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: that when I hear people say thank you for asking 390 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: that or I saw that story it really helped me. 391 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: That's when what I do really makes a difference and 392 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: it makes me feel like I'm in the career that 393 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: I was chosen to be. Congratulation as we close out 394 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: this interview. I'm speaking with April Ryan her both black 395 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: women will say the world and anthem. What do you 396 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: think is the biggest stereotype that black women face in general? April, 397 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: we're not good enough? Um uh, we're angry and we're 398 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: angry angry black women um or angry black woman um. 399 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: But I try to dispel it every day. You know, 400 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: I want you to know I'm very concerned. It's not 401 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: angry about anything, it's very concerned. So concerned I moved 402 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: by asking questions or the highest office in the land 403 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: to make a difference as you as like, I told you, 404 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: I have six sisters, I have my daughter, have on 405 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: the one child as daughter. She's a just graduate from 406 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: college and she has a voice. So I was following 407 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: that young black girls who want to save the world. 408 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: You know, she's very equal concerned about the trees, about 409 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: recycling and all this. How would you guide her? I 410 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: got those two. I call him feminist tree hug and 411 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: I'm with days of April. She no joke to you 412 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: to her dad, Okay, she looks at me like, okay, 413 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: well we switched to role here. Okay, I'm your dad 414 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: is But she is so concerned about our future, which 415 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: rightfully show you know, I'm at the end of my future. 416 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: She has to live her future old, so she should 417 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: be concerned with the world. So what were you advice 418 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: would you give? You have one? I'm I got one. 419 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I got to. I got to. Well, what do you 420 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: say to your young your young voices that I can 421 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: carry over to my young child because she's gonna listen 422 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: to the and make sure she does because this book 423 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: is fantastic and Africana. Make sure that you know she 424 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: she'sn't used to us when she graduated from college. I'm 425 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: based in Atlanta, so this book I'll be taking on 426 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: the plane with me so she can get it and 427 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: read it. Well, what if I do you give them 428 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: so I can share with her? Um, I tell them that, 429 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, just pace yourself because they're ready to slay 430 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: the dragon right now. And I'm like, you gotta you 431 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 1: gotta watch the dragon, and then you gotta figure out 432 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: how to slay the dragon. And I said, I know 433 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 1: you're concerned, but pace yourself because you don't want them 434 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: burning out too quick and getting hurt by their passion. 435 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: But I support them, and that's the thing. I may 436 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: not always agree, but I know in their hearts they 437 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: feel it right and it's legal, so I support them 438 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: in their efforts. I mean looking COVID. They went out 439 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: marching and I was like, no, you can't, and they 440 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: were like, we're going out in spite them. And I 441 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: was like, I have never worried about my children leaving 442 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: the house. Well then because they wanted to stand for 443 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: George Floyd. And I said, okay, I said, just put 444 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: your masks on, stay away from people. This was before 445 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: the vaccine. I said. All I can do is support 446 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 1: them and marvel at the young women that they are 447 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: and the women that they are aspiring to be. I'm 448 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: just so proud of them, and I'm proud of your 449 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: daughter for being that way too. Tree hugging feminists who 450 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: will march April. She no joe, she is no joke. 451 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I I don't stop her. I advise her. I tell her, 452 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 1: tell my wife. I said, you know, you know I'm 453 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: not gonna tell her what she can't do if she 454 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: seeks in my advice. Um um, they and I will 455 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: have an opinion, but I will not jump out in 456 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: front of her and tell her to stop. But I 457 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: will advise him. With goes with the world is look 458 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: at the news. Look at the news. The news tells 459 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: a lot, but look at all the news so you 460 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: can hear both sides of the story. In April, over 461 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: the years and watching you, you're courageous. I'm humble to 462 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: interview you because I've seen you face adversity in the 463 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: public's eye and you stood proud, and you made me proud, 464 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: and you made America problem. You made Black America proud. 465 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: And I want to tell you this book is a 466 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: very good read. Like you said, it is timely and 467 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: sometimes when you do it at the right time, it's 468 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: time for everybody to read it. And I'm gonna recommend 469 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: everybody to read this book. Black Women's Will Save the 470 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: World and Anthem by April Ryan. Thank you for coming 471 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Thank you. I enjoyed my 472 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:30,479 Speaker 1: master class. Thank you give me crying big time. Stay safe, Okay, 473 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: we'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 474 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: with Rushan McDonald. You are now tuned into the Money 475 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashan McDonald. Hi, I'm 476 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your Daily 477 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: Men of the inspiration. Recently, I spoke with two time 478 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: Emmy nominated actor, producer, comedian, youth pastor and author of 479 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Blessed Mode, Cale Mitchell. He addresses the importance of following 480 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: the path of righteousness and always leading with love. Righteousness 481 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: is just really being obedient to God and thinking, uh, 482 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: and the way he thinks responding in love, and a 483 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: lot of times that's less hard for people. I mean, 484 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: you know it was hard for me. You know, it 485 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: wasn't just easy all of a sudden, I just I 486 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 1: just got it, you know what I mean. I used 487 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: to respond like, hey, you do me wrong, I do 488 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: you wrong? Okay, revenge, you know what I mean. But 489 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: now it's the thing of it's like no responding love 490 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: because love kills all that all that craziness. You might 491 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: be on one path and you'll go through something that's 492 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: the time where you need to learn from it. Listen 493 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: to this full interview with cal Mitchell. It's available on 494 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations dot com. Now let's return to Money 495 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald's. My guests is Regina Bell, 496 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: with an illustrious career spanding thirty or five years chart 497 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: topping singer, songwriter and Grahmed Award winning singer Regina Bell 498 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: is back. It's time with a festive and beautifully soul 499 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: for holiday album titled My Colorful Christmas, the ten track 500 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: album which is on sale now from Bell's record record label, 501 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: Toshi Entertainment. Who's did no matter the genre, R and B, jazz, gospel, 502 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: even holiday music, everything she touches turns to go. On 503 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: today's show, We're going to talk about her new album, 504 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: About My Colorful Christmas, the lead single a Cradle in Bethlehem, 505 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: one of her and my favorite holiday songs from the 506 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: great Natkin Co Holiday Classic. We'll discuss a career spanding 507 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: more than thirty or five years, family, faith, in marriage, 508 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: please working the money making conversation masterclass, Regina Bell, How 509 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: are you doing? I'm doing great? How are you awesome? 510 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: You know? You know, we got a lot of talk about. 511 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: But when I mentioned my favorite a Cradle in Bethlehem, 512 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: the lead single on your album, My Colorful Chris, you 513 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: hugged yourself. Why did you do that? Regina? This is 514 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: the greatest song and I've loved it since I was 515 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: a child. Um, you know everybody loves chest nuts, this 516 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: nuts West thing on an open side. But but my 517 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: favorite song has always been A Cradle in Bethlehem. And 518 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: when I say that, most people don't even know that song. 519 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: So when you when you embraced it and told me 520 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: that it was your favorite as well, Oh my gosh, 521 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: we're kindred spirits already. You know, you know, I got 522 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: the classic Downpad done the Hathaway, I love them, I 523 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: love it. But this song, yeah, you know it's it's 524 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: it's a tribute to his brilliance. I'm talking about Matt 525 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: Kine as a singer, as a person who he took 526 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: the simple and made it special and made an emotional 527 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: and that's what A Cradle in Bethlehem. And I was 528 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: excited because sometimes you need to redo songs to reintroduce 529 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: him into another era people, and this is the era 530 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: I think needs a song like A Cradle and Bethlenham 531 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: and for it to come out on your Christmas album 532 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: is I think it's amazing and fantax and congratulations, Regina, 533 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: thank you so much, Thank you so much. I I 534 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: have loved this song for so many years, so you know, obviously, 535 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: when I got ready to put my own flip over 536 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: to it. I wanted to make sure that I didn't 537 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: do anything that was going to insult you know, the genre. 538 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: But I also wanted to say, well, I want to 539 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: put a little Regina on it. So uh, you know, 540 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: I had to put a little jazz in there. It's 541 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: a little R and B is some gospel. I mean 542 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: you can hear all of the flavor, all of the genres. Uh. 543 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: You know that that are that I embrace that you 544 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: hear me sing all the time whenever I sing a song. 545 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: So um, I was really really pleased with the outcome. Yeah, 546 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: here's the thing, the interesting thing about you, because you 547 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: know I have been a part of your thirty five 548 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: year career. Okay, and um and and blessed to hear 549 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: your greatness and see your beauty, your natural beauty and 550 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: music videos on live television, on television and a live concerts. 551 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: You know that your your statue iss you project, you know, 552 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: in a very profound manner. And you said, I gotta 553 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: put a little Regina on it. You know what is 554 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: a little Regina on it? Regina Bell? What is that? 555 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: We gotta Regina rize you because because that's because when 556 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: you're reginaizing it, it really makes it unique. And the 557 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: reason I say that is that opt here promotions where 558 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: on the show tamler Man and Regina Belle, you know 559 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: that's another show? Did I on the show The Old 560 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: Jays and Regina Bell. I've been going like, you know 561 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: you're doing this, you know on the show. You know 562 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: on the show you know Terry Lane Carrington and Regina Bell. 563 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: You know, this is just unique genres that you're falling 564 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: into and and and and excelling in. So how is 565 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: that possible? Regina Bell? I have to say, it's to 566 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: the Almighty? Is it has nothing to do with me? Um? 567 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: I give God all the credit. Um. I do think 568 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: God for the opportunity, and I have embraced every opportunity. 569 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: I put in the hard work, you know, art work. 570 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: As you well know, Rashaan can't just pop up one 571 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: day and say I want to do this, and you know, 572 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: put your mind, your heart, your soul and your gift 573 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: into what it is that you're doing. Um, And that's 574 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: what I did. I Uh, I was born with the 575 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: gift to sing, but I wanted to polish the gift. 576 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: You know, you can get a diamond, you can get 577 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: a nine carrot diamond, right, and it can be full 578 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: of flaws, it can have all kind of carbons in it. 579 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: But when it's cut away, when you cut away all 580 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: of the impurities and and make that diamond shine the 581 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: way it should and the light passes through it. You know, 582 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: the four carrot diamond is actually more expensive than the 583 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: nine carrot because of the brilliance of it, because it 584 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: is because of its perfection. And so I was born 585 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: with the gift. But I couldn't stop there. I had 586 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: to put in some work. So I studied music, played 587 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: instruments coming up, ranging from trombone, baritone, tuba, uh and 588 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: steel drums. And I took vocal lessons with Ingle Wolf 589 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: at the Manhattan School of Music UM for Preparatory College 590 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: in New York. And then I went on to Rutgish 591 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: University and I studied piano with Kenny Brown, so famous 592 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: jazz pianists. And so I have um. I've run the gamut, 593 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: and I've been able to you know, rough shoulders with 594 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: some greats like George Duke, being able to be in 595 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: the studio with the late great George Juke Um for 596 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: My Lazy Afternoon CD. I've been in the studio with 597 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: pastor Shirley Caesar, which is you know the reason why 598 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm singing. You know, I patterned my whole singing style 599 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: when I first started singing after her and Donnie Halfaway 600 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 1: and Billy Holiday, so you know, bringing all of that 601 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: together there, um, I found Regina Bell. And it's been 602 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: my mantra that even at my worst, I'm still number one, 603 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: being myself at best. Trying to be somebody else, I 604 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: can only be at best number two. So I try 605 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: to maintain my sound and all that I do, even 606 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: if I do jazz, even if I do R and B, 607 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: even if if I do gospel, I always have to 608 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: be quintessential Regina Bell. And that's worked for me all 609 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: through the years. You know, my life is really interesting, Regina, 610 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: because you know, you know, some people say, you know, 611 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: they look at who I am and they put me 612 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: in a certain category as success. But I've just been 613 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: a regular dude all my life, you know what I'm saying, 614 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: And so I've looked, but I've looked at you, you know, 615 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, and being able to have an interview, you 616 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 1: interview at this level about your career and look at 617 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: where my career it's all about a journey. And I 618 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: always tell people that I look at when I was 619 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: twenty and then I didn't really see four. When I 620 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 1: looked at thirty, I didn't really see fifty. Because it's 621 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: about a career, you know, because you know, you know, 622 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: even now, you go, am I gonna make it to 623 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: seventy and eighty career wise? Because you know what it 624 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: took to get to this point? How do you put 625 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: that in perspective? Because you know, you just right off 626 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: the early years, you know, when you just out there 627 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: just being Regina. You know, I always tell people between 628 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: the ages of eighteen and twenty four, you just being you. 629 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: It's after twenty four that decisions can be made for you, 630 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: or you can make a decision that could take you 631 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: off your path. And that's when that career conversation comes 632 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: into play. And then next time you look up thirty 633 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: or five years later, we're talking now about your career, 634 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: but you're also talking about your future. Because we had 635 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: a beautiful holiday album next time and I called my 636 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: Colorful Christmas. How do you talk about your career perspective 637 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, before twenty four and 638 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: then after twenty four. Well, it's interesting you say that 639 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 1: because even though I was just kind of being Regina, 640 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: the still made very important decisions, especially as it pertains 641 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: to my image. Um, it was very important to me 642 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: to maintain a certain image. And it's not to knock 643 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: anybody else, but you know, UM, I sat at the 644 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: feet of Nancy Wilson and free to pain and I 645 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: got I glean knowledge from them. And one of the 646 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: things that Nancy told me is that you know everybody 647 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: can't take their clothes off, and that you know at 648 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: the end of the day, she said, I want you 649 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: to get your accolades for your gift. I want you 650 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: to get your accolades for what you have inside and 651 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: the prize that God has given you. And and based 652 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 1: it based it on that. It's not it's not to 653 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,760 Speaker 1: say that you can't have gimmicks and things in your show, 654 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, let the people 655 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: go home with a piece of you, and you will 656 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: your career will span the years. And so I tried 657 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: to make decisions throughout my life, even as a twenty 658 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: five year old, even as a thirty five year old, 659 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: even as a forty five year old, I tried to 660 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: make decisions that always appeal to who I am and 661 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: where I want to be. So it wasn't just about 662 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever just thought about where I am. 663 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: I always kind of thought about where am I going? 664 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: What what do I what? Where? Where do I want 665 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,879 Speaker 1: to end up? What do what we do? I want 666 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: to be? You know? Um? Uh if I do this, 667 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: how will that translate years down the road? Will that 668 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: be a classic? Or will that end up being fat music? 669 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: You know? Um? And so making those kinds of decisions 670 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 1: in terms of image, in terms of you know, showing 671 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: up for a picture here, um, versus being at my 672 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: daughter's graduation. I ate those decisions to say, I know 673 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: that's an important place to be and that it may 674 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: add to my career, but guess what, I get one 675 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: chance to be at my daughter's graduation. I'm going into 676 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: the graduation to take a chance on it. If it 677 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: comes around, and it's great if it doesn't find and 678 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: I've made those important decisions and I'm I'm happy with 679 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: my life. I wouldn't trade my life for anybody. Your brand, 680 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: that's what we're talking about. Your brand and for Nancy 681 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 1: wasn't free the pain where the boys? I can see 682 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: it right now, and so trained singing, you know, bring 683 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: the boys hard, free to pain, you know, you know, 684 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,960 Speaker 1: because that's that's a that's a brand. Because see, I 685 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: don't know what she did off in her personal life. 686 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: I don't know who she dated. I don't know you know, 687 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: did she did she party and then? But some great artists, 688 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're off screen, it's sometimes dominate their talents 689 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: that they produced to us on screen. And that's what 690 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: we're talking about. You, your brand, we're talking about you know, 691 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: what do you want to be remembered for. I'm just 692 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: only remembering you from your great music. I remember you 693 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: from a stage when you when I when you performed 694 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: for me. When I left that venue, I took your 695 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: music with I took your elegance with me. I took 696 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: your your presentation with me. That's all I remember. And 697 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: that's what you want as an artist. You don't want. 698 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: You don't want what you do off stage, who your dating, 699 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: who you're shaking, And sometimes when you're getting drunk, you're 700 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 1: getting pulled over to undermine what your gifts. And that's 701 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: what you That's what Nancy Wilson was saying to you. 702 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: That's what Free to Pay with you don't let don't 703 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: undermine your gifts that God gave you by being immature. Yes, yes, 704 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they were telling me. And they were 705 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: telling me that you're this is what you're selling. You're 706 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: selling music, You're selling gifts, You're selling a story. You 707 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: you want people to buy into your story when every 708 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: every time somebody comes to your concert, they're coming into 709 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: your living room, right, what do you want to have 710 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: prepared for them at your home? What do you want 711 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: to talk about? What do you want to you know, 712 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: what is your presentation? What do you want to display? 713 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: And and those things? Who are the things that I 714 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: thought about that I still can senue to think about, 715 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: uh as I go from stage to stage, from city 716 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: to city, from state to state, country to country, these 717 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: are the things that I think about. UM. I got 718 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: a chance to expand a little bit UH last year 719 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:19,839 Speaker 1: being in Kirk Franklin's UM Christmas Movie, and that was 720 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: amazing because that's so you know, you know, different things 721 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: are opening up for me to be able to do 722 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: UM as a result of you know, this gift making 723 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: room for me and opening up other doors for me. 724 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it. UM. I'm looking forward to 725 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: what the future holds. Uh. This Christmas record is just 726 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: a little piece of me. This is my favorite time 727 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: of year. Uh, not necessarily for the commercialism of it, 728 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: but because it's a time when a lot of us 729 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: as family come together. You know, we get a chance 730 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: to sit down, we get a break from the crazy. UM, 731 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: people are a little bit nicer. Um, we exchange gifts, 732 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: we get to show each other how much we love 733 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: one another. And so it's it's Um, it's my favorite 734 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: time of being, always has been, and so this music 735 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: being able to do this at this time. Uh, I 736 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: can't even tell you, Shana, how it warms my heart. UM. 737 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 1: My brother who passed away in June was a big 738 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: part of this, and um, this is a piece of 739 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,400 Speaker 1: him that I get to carry with me for the 740 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: rest of my life. We'll be right back with more 741 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return 742 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Well, I 743 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: want to just commend you your articulation and it was 744 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: moving and impacted me and I want to tell you 745 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: some Regina. Uh, this show has been a sometimes a 746 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 1: blessing for me. I get to interview individuals like you 747 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: and um and I get to share with the public 748 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: a story that they might not have heard. All they 749 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: all they know is just the artists, the artist, and 750 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, they don't know about the family, don't know 751 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 1: about the long term marriage and or the here things 752 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: like where were Gina been? You know, Regina been raising 753 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: five Kidsina been been a wife. Regina live in the 754 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta area. She's been living, she's been doing, living a 755 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 1: successful life. And guess what, for thirty five years, she's 756 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: been still having a career. And I remember I remember once, Um, 757 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: you know Steve harperd who I was managing at the time, 758 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: We did this contract with the Radio one and he 759 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: was doing morning drive in l A. And we did 760 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: that contract because of the fact that we gotta check 761 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: every week, so that allowed us to do what we 762 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do. We didn't have to jump out there 763 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: and do every movie that was offered to us. We 764 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: don't have to jump out there and take every concert check. 765 00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 1: But people started saying, what what what happened to Steve Harvey? 766 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: You know Sidric out there, Bernie mc at that deal 767 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 1: out there. Now, Steve, we were clocking checks and planning 768 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 1: in our career and planning. So that's all I'm chilling there. 769 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: She she found a great man. Okay, she started having 770 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: beautiful kids. She started controlling her destiny. Which once you 771 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 1: started controlling your destiny, you can pick a choose. Yeah, 772 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: when you want to do what you wanna do? Am 773 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: I right? Regina? Important? You are? You? Are? You? You 774 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. I can't tell you. Um. 775 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: I married my husband, uh thirty one years ago, um 776 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: John Sydney Battle Um Fromer Hawks and Cavaliers basketball player. 777 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: And we actually met each other at Rutgers University where 778 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: we were both going to school, and he was my 779 00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,240 Speaker 1: best friend for you know, years before we got married. 780 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 1: So we were best friends for a nine years before 781 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 1: we got before we went on a date. How about 782 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: that look? That says something somebody who's listening to this 783 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: show him being my friend is it speaks miles Because 784 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: when I tell people that we've never ever gotten into 785 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: an argument where we cussed each other out, some folks 786 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 1: look and say, what y'all ain't No, No, Because he 787 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,520 Speaker 1: started out as my best friend, and even when we're 788 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:44,120 Speaker 1: in the midst of a disagreement, we have to respectfully disagree, 789 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: and so that I think that friendship speaks volumes into 790 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: our marriage. Um. It helped us to raise our children. Uh. 791 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: They they are. We have a foundation that goes beyond 792 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: our careers. And I think that's really really important because 793 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: we don't get caught up in the height we we 794 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: we know who we are. Um. Folks say, oh my 795 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 1: God's with Gina Belle, And I said, we just folks. 796 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 1: And I'm making that from my whole heart. Just folks. Um. 797 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 1: My mother has always told me, and it's something that 798 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: I carry with me every day of my life. She 799 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,840 Speaker 1: says that your reputation walks in the door before you 800 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: get there. Um, these are pearls wisdom that I hold 801 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: onto and they help. They helped my buoyancy. They helped 802 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: keep me my head above water. They keep me afloat 803 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: because it never allows me to get caught up in 804 00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: the moment so much so that I forget who I am. Uh. 805 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,759 Speaker 1: Raising my family was important because at the end of 806 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: the day, when something doesn't go right, that's who I 807 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,920 Speaker 1: run to. I can't run to the one who I 808 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,919 Speaker 1: signed the autograph for. I can't to the grammy because 809 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: the grammar is not gonna talk to me. You know, 810 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,879 Speaker 1: celebrity is not going to do much for me when 811 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm going through what I'm going through. But it's my 812 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: family that embraces me and that knows me for who 813 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 1: I am. And it's not expecting Regina Bell the stage person, 814 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: but basically embracing Gina the family member. You know. So 815 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: that that means when you talked about that, you know, 816 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: being able to be home raise your family. Uh, that 817 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,720 Speaker 1: that speaks volumes because again that's the thing that keeps 818 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: me level and keeps me keeps my head right. Let's 819 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: get back to the album and regards to ten songs Holiday, 820 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: because I'm teasing you know, I got my favorites. And then, 821 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: like I said, when this album came across my desk, 822 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 1: a cradle in Bethlehem, I win. You gotta be kid 823 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 1: in me. You got to be kid in me and 824 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,160 Speaker 1: that kid cold because you know you always go, well, 825 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: it's only in Bethlehem, you know what I'm saying. And 826 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,319 Speaker 1: what other what other classics or did you do any 827 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: original songs pristimpher songs on the on the Timber records 828 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: that you're dropping on this particular album. M no. I 829 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: honestly didn't. There's one original song on there, but it's 830 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 1: not necessarily a Christmas song, and I'll talk a little 831 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: bit more about that. But I really wanted to do 832 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: the familiar Christmas songs um, and I wanted to involve 833 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: my family. So my my son is playing drums on 834 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: a couple of the tunes, UM, my nephews playing um 835 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: drums uh, Jamal Bell, my son Jalen Battle, and then 836 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 1: my two daughters, Sydney and Nyla. UM. Sydney singing a 837 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: baby changes everything, and NILA's singing the first Noel. And 838 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: so I really wanted to make it a family affair 839 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: because of That's why I call it my Colorful Christmas, 840 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: because there's so many colors of what I love, you know. Um, 841 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 1: the music is colorful because, like I said, we incorporated 842 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,840 Speaker 1: the jazz, the gospel, the the the everything all that 843 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:04,320 Speaker 1: I love. UM, and then I incorporated members of my family. 844 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 1: But then they come in with a whole different another flights. 845 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 1: So Nyla things differently than Sydney sets uh, Jamal plays 846 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 1: drums differently than than Jalen plays trumps. So then we 847 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: got a little, you know, a little Calypso Soca uh 848 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: all little town of Bethlehem. Um So, so you know, 849 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 1: we call it my Colorful Christmas because we added some 850 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 1: colors of music. We added um colors of uh styles 851 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: we added, I added different members of a family. Um uh. 852 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: And the one song that I wanted to talk to 853 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 1: you about is the last song. It's called a song 854 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: from Bernie and that is my brother. For those of 855 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: you that don't know, Bernard bell Is produced millions of 856 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: records that have got above, above and beyond UM from 857 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson's Remember the Time to Whitney and Bobby we 858 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: have something in common along with Teddy Riley um uh, myself, um, 859 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:12,759 Speaker 1: Patti La Belle Boy, George case Jahim. I mean, the 860 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: list goes on. The wineens. He, my brother, was truly 861 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: amazing um And this song is the last song that 862 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: he and I did together. And I'm trying not to 863 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,279 Speaker 1: get you know, Terry out about it, but it's the 864 00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: last song that he and I did together. And it's 865 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,640 Speaker 1: a song that basically speaks UM from those that have 866 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,680 Speaker 1: gone on from and mostly I. I really wanted to 867 00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,879 Speaker 1: do it because of COVID. COVID had us to realize 868 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: some things that we had taken for granted, like being 869 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,839 Speaker 1: able to have a homegoing service, and and realizing what 870 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: it meant to us to have people come in from 871 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,200 Speaker 1: other cities, other states to hug us and tell us 872 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,239 Speaker 1: how much they love us and how much they love 873 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: your loved one. UM. Not being able to do that 874 00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: during COVID it was traumatic, not being to touch our 875 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,759 Speaker 1: loved ones who were sick and in the hospital, and 876 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 1: sometimes we they passed on and we never got a 877 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: chance to kind of bring closure to anything until they 878 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: were gone. UM. This song simply says for all of you. 879 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: I've been a caregiver for many years. UM. I was 880 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: an ambassador for a a r P for many years. UM. 881 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: And I at the same time of having a career 882 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 1: with Shine with my mom, I was caring for my mom, 883 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: my dad, and my brother. UM. Meanwhile, my husband and 884 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: I pastor in two churches. I was on the road 885 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 1: and in seminary. So you bet a holler at your girl. Okay, 886 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 1: A lot going on with five kids and four grandkids. Yeah, 887 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: so there's a lot going on. So this song simply says, UM. 888 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 1: It says I had to leave, And it's basically saying 889 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 1: that there's nothing more you could do. I know, as caregivers, 890 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: we always feel like was there. You know, maybe I 891 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 1: could have scheduled one more doctor's appointment and would have 892 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: changed things. Maybe I could have had one more visit 893 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,880 Speaker 1: or something. Um. But you know, the song says I 894 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 1: had to leave, meaning that my assignment here was up. 895 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: It was my time. It was nothing else that you 896 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 1: could do for me. Thank you for everything you did. Um, 897 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: I love you, but I had to leave. And so 898 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,600 Speaker 1: the song is a little sad, but it's something that 899 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: helps us to embrace, um, the feeling of loss with 900 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,479 Speaker 1: our loved ones that have passed on. Wow, I'm talking 901 00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 1: to Regina Bell. You know at Lester's career spand more 902 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: than thirty or five years chart topping singer, songwriter, Grammy 903 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: Award winner, she's back. Well should I say they were? 904 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: I think that's an insult. So she's back. She actually 905 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,160 Speaker 1: has another project that she's delivering to the forefront of 906 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 1: the entertainment business is from her record label To Entertainment. 907 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: It's called A Colorful Christmas and and and it's a 908 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 1: holiday album that's going to I think I would say 909 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: it's a game changing for me because of the fact 910 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: that it's allowing me to hear music that sometimes you know, 911 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: because you know, they only play popular songs on the radio. 912 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 1: There's a few of the like ten Up, they just 913 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: play over and over and over, and then you have 914 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,799 Speaker 1: to go sometimes to like Sirius XM and then go 915 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 1: that's my soul. Well, this song here a Cradle in 916 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 1: Bethlehem is on my It's on my you know, my 917 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: my playlists. So even when it's not Christmas, I listened 918 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: to this song. And so to hear on your album 919 00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: is a blessing to have this honest conversation, Regine. I 920 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,800 Speaker 1: hope it resonated with me. It was powerful. It allowed 921 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 1: me to speak to somebody that I've always seen from 922 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,600 Speaker 1: Afar and the journey that you've taken, and you have 923 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: made Nancy Wilson proud my friend. Okay, you have followed 924 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: her words and her understanding that it's about your brand. 925 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: And when you walk off that stage, let what walked 926 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,880 Speaker 1: off is what we heard, what we experienced in that venue. 927 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: When you go on that poolpit at those two churches, 928 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,239 Speaker 1: let people understand that the message you're giving is what 929 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,520 Speaker 1: you want to resonate in their heart and uplift them 930 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: in their community. You are a blessing Regina Bell and 931 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,920 Speaker 1: the fact that you come off with a my colorful 932 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:11,480 Speaker 1: Christmas album led by the first single, A Cradle in Bethlehem. 933 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,919 Speaker 1: Tell everybody if we go, where can we find this song? 934 00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: And how about your social media too? Oh, you can 935 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: go to my website. I am Regina Bell dot com, 936 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,440 Speaker 1: um and uh, you know, and you can purchase it there. 937 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 1: I'm on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, I'm on all the social 938 00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: media platforms. Um you can find me. Or you can 939 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: go to h Apple Music uh anywhere pretty much and 940 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 1: Spotify and and pick it up. You can stream it, 941 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: just play it, play it because I'm telling you it's 942 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 1: gonna bless you. Um listen. Being the boss it costs 943 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,879 Speaker 1: uh Rashana, thank you for pointing that out. It's on 944 00:54:54,920 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: my own record label, Toshi three Entertainment. Uh. But uh, 945 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: it was definitely a challenge, but it was also a 946 00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,240 Speaker 1: labor of love. So I'm really excited about this because 947 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: it's my first full project on my own record label. 948 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,879 Speaker 1: So you know, you can still do it. Don't let 949 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:19,839 Speaker 1: the gray hand fool is life. Life ain't fooling us. 950 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: Thirty or five years in this business and we know 951 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: we got another thirty or five years to keep changing 952 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 1: the business. You're Uplift your blessing. Toshi three Entertainment. That's 953 00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,799 Speaker 1: our record label. The single is a Cradle in Bethley Ham. 954 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 1: The name of the Christmas album is My Colorful Christmas. 955 00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 1: Thank you for Regina for coming on my show, Money 956 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,600 Speaker 1: Making Conversation master Class for me. I hope I'll be bad. 957 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh you will. Yeah, we're gonna go off and talk 958 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: about that. Reschedule it okay, But thank you for coming 959 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation master Class. You've been listening to 960 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:50,600 Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Always remember to 961 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: lead with your gifts. Money Making Conversations Masterclass is a 962 00:55:55,320 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: presentation of thirty eight fifteen Media Incorporated. You are now 963 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 1: tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with 964 00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,400 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Hi Rashan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass 965 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,919 Speaker 1: with your daily minute of Inspiration. This week I Said 966 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:14,240 Speaker 1: That With comedian, actress, host, producer and Arthur Kim Whitley. 967 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: She explains why it is important to make sure you 968 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: feel good inside and out. I'm a firm a really 969 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:23,200 Speaker 1: really firm believer in how you feel on the inside 970 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,960 Speaker 1: will come out on the outside. A lot of water 971 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: is what they really make you drink. You stay hydrated, 972 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: your skin's gonna look good. Being happy on the inside, um, 973 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: I think it comes out because people are always like, 974 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: You're always so happy. I really try to maintain that 975 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: because I like to be an inspiration to so many people. 976 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 1: And when I look good and feel good, then I'm 977 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,439 Speaker 1: even happier. You know. It's it's an up and down thing. 978 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,560 Speaker 1: You know. Even if I lost through the powers, you know, 979 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: I might have gained some back right now, and now 980 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: it's just I get back on the journey. I mean, 981 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: I never stopped. Listen to this four interview with Kim Whitley. 982 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: It's available on Mighty Making Conversation dot com