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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: In Wednesday edition, Clay Travis Buck Sexton show, I appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you. We are going to have three hours

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Speaker 2: of fun one p. Thirty giving you a little roadmap.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cameron, he's running for governor of Kentucky against Andy Basheer.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that Mitch McConnell mess with him and

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Speaker 2: what he thinks is going on as Kentucky has a

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Speaker 2: Democrat governor right now and there aren't a lot of

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Speaker 2: elections in twenty twenty three. We will discuss also cocaine

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Speaker 2: in the White House. Supposedly it's not Hunters, but it's

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Speaker 2: someone close in Joe Biden's orbit reports that Joe knows

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Speaker 2: who had the coke. We've got treatments of illegals in

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Speaker 2: Buck's home city of New York City. I just want

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Speaker 2: to share some of the details of what this crew

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Speaker 2: is getting. And you're gonna say to yourself, man, that

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Speaker 2: sounds like pretty incredible. Maybe I would sign up for this.

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Speaker 2: I just want to hit you with it. A DC

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Speaker 2: councilman wants the National Guard called out, as DC is

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Speaker 2: on track for a twenty year high in murders. That

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Speaker 2: is interesting because the New York Times editorial board demanded

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Speaker 2: that their editor be fired for sharing an editorial from

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Speaker 2: Tom Cotton, Arkansas Senator, making that same argument back during

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Speaker 2: the summer of twenty twenty riots Trump pulls everybody on

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Speaker 2: shooty debate. Joe Biden can't remember how many wonders of

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Speaker 2: the world there are. There's so many things that we

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Speaker 2: have got a lot of fun to dive into with you.

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Speaker 1: But right off the top.

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Speaker 2: Buck twenty million dollars plus paid to the Biden crime

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Speaker 2: family during Joe Biden's vice presidency, according to details released

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Speaker 2: this morning by the Oversight Committee inside of the House

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Speaker 2: of Representatives, and I'm reading the statement that they tweeted

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Speaker 2: out today. We are releasing a bank records memo detailing

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Speaker 2: how the Bidens and their associates received millions from oligarchs

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Speaker 2: in Russia, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine as Hunter was sealing these deals.

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Speaker 2: Then VP Biden dined with these oligarchs in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 2: I'm continuing, I'm reading from the Oversight Committee. We've now

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Speaker 2: identified twenty million in payments from foreign sources to the

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Speaker 2: Bidens and their associates during Joe Biden's vice presidency. Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden sold him as the brand. No real services were

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Speaker 2: provided other than access to the Biden network, including Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden him self. Ah Buck, They've got I think as

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Speaker 2: all of this evidence continues to pour out, more and

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Speaker 2: more concrete data that they are building that makes the

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Speaker 2: Biden crime family and Joe Biden himself, it makes Watergate

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Speaker 2: look like Jaywalking. It is really extraordinary what they are

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Speaker 2: putting together now at the Oversight Committee. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's any doubt. I'm curious if you would agree that

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's going to get impeached. Now will this get

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Speaker 2: covered by MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, usual suspects.

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Speaker 2: I think it's becoming increasingly embarrassing for them, which is

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Speaker 2: what they really care about, not to be covering it.

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Speaker 2: But I also kind of think, well, another Trump indictment

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Speaker 2: must be coming soon, because that seems to be what

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Speaker 2: happens every time they're damaining allegations that are proven about

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Speaker 2: the Bidens.

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Speaker 1: They're just going to fall back on. Trump is facing

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Speaker 1: a bunch of indictments, Biden is facing no indictments. Now,

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Speaker 1: of course, that makes you think, well, that's because Biden's

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Speaker 1: president and it's his doj appointee and the fix is in.

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Speaker 1: But the way this will be messaged is Trump is

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Speaker 1: the criminal. Biden didn't do anything, or Biden meaning Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows, I mean Hunter obviously like everything right, hundred

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Speaker 1: and everything, Yeah, hundred. I will say, you know, I

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Speaker 1: understand why people maybe wanted to buy the hundred memoir

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Speaker 1: just because it does seem like a such a train

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Speaker 1: wreck in so many times, basically the Wolf of Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Hunter Biden version. But your dad is vice president, right,

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Speaker 1: instead of instead of just running a boiler room scam

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Speaker 1: in Long Island, your dad is running foreign policy with Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: And that to me is the part of this that's

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Speaker 1: that's been that's so interesting when you get into some

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Speaker 1: of the details here, from what we've seen from the

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Speaker 1: House Oversight Committee, Russian oligarch Yelena Batcherina wired three point

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Speaker 1: five million dollars to a shell company associated with Hunter,

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Speaker 1: Biden and Devin Archer. About a million dollars was transferred

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Speaker 1: to Archer. The remainder used to fund a new bank account,

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Speaker 1: which Archer and Biden used to fund other wires. My

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Speaker 1: h it keeps going on and on. All of the

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Speaker 1: details I love it. Then Kazakhstan gets in here too.

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Speaker 1: The Biden crime family. I think this is so important.

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Speaker 1: They had a specialty. They had a specialization. And it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just pedaling access in a general sense. Right, that

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Speaker 1: was more the Clinton Foundation, right, the Clintons. They take

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Speaker 1: money from the saudiast, They take money from whoever. Right.

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Speaker 1: The Bidens really specialized in tyrannies in opponents of US

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Speaker 1: foreign policy with China, sleptocracies were paying the Bidens a lot.

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Speaker 1: They went right to the worst of the worst when

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Speaker 1: it comes to corruption. They said, hey, let's do a

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Speaker 1: business venture together. Who goes to a Ukrainian oligarch to

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Speaker 2: So here you have Kazakhstan. You can't make this stuff

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Speaker 2: up like Brett. They got into bed with Brett.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we want the Hunter a bad and he's

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Speaker 1: very good. Kazak stanny oligarch keenez Rakashev wired the exact

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Speaker 1: price of Biden's sports car to a bank account used

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Speaker 1: by Archer and Biden. The payment was used to purchase

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Speaker 1: a sports car. The next day, Hunter Biden was shaking

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Speaker 1: down basically Kazakh stanny oligarchs who they make their money

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Speaker 1: through the most blatant kinds of corruption and thuggery imaginable.

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Speaker 1: So he could go buy one hundred and forty thousand

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Speaker 3: Day with it.

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Speaker 1: I mean this, this is outrageous stuff when you really

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Speaker 1: look at it, and I think that unfortunately it's all

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Speaker 1: coming out at a time. And then this brings me

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Speaker 1: back to what's gonna happen. You know, we asked Jim

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Speaker 1: know about it, and that's totally true. It's worth finding

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Speaker 1: out here. But will there be consequences? I think, Clay,

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Speaker 1: they're just going to bury Trump in so many indictments

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Speaker 1: the Hunter Biden nonsense. You know, you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that they're worried about the political consequences

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, because if they are, the only

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Speaker 1: which is what I've been arguing they're going to have

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Speaker 1: to do. And you know, I think we have a

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Speaker 1: the good guy side, John Sanunu, Chris Sanunu. I think, right,

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Speaker 1: I get, I'm all, there's a bunch of news and

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Speaker 1: the older one versus the younger one. Really yeah, very much.

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Speaker 2: But uh, he says that he thinks there is over

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Speaker 2: a fifty percent chance it won't be Joe Biden on

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Speaker 2: the ballot in twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I think we have that audio.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but I

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Speaker 3: think there's a greater than fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: Chance he's not on the ballot come November of twenty four.

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Speaker 1: And you're going to see two things happen.

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Speaker 4: Either he's going to go through the primary process effectively unchallenged.

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Speaker 1: A year from now, he's going to collect all the delegates.

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Speaker 1: His health was not going to be good. He can

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Speaker 1: always use that as a reason to step out and

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Speaker 1: basically tell all of his delegates to go for somebody

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Speaker 1: else and kind of be be the kingmaker. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be unheard of for.

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Speaker 2: The Democrats to try to manipulate their convention that way.

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Speaker 1: They've done that before. Let me throw it be privet

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Speaker 2: I mean, wait, wait, wait, do you think what I

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Speaker 2: would be riveting television because they would be doing the

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Speaker 2: Democrats would everything they could in the scenario he just

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Speaker 2: laid out to keep Kamala Harris from being the nominee.

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Speaker 2: That's why Buck, you and I at least agree on this.

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Speaker 2: If he's not going to run, barring look, I mean

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Speaker 2: he could have a heart attack, he could have a stroke.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's a over eighty years old week half

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Speaker 2: of anyone running for office at that age. We know

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Speaker 2: this correct, But barring some truly catastrophic health related concern,

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Speaker 2: if he is making a choice to step down, I

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Speaker 2: think we both agree he would have to do it

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Speaker 2: by before Christmas, right, because then you allow there to

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Speaker 2: be a primary, and I don't even know what the

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Speaker 2: deadlines are to get your name, for instance, on the

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Speaker 2: if Biden doesn't step down in time for a primary.

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Speaker 2: And to reiterate, I still do not believe Biden is

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Speaker 2: going to step down. I think that Biden now view,

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Speaker 2: what is the incentive for Joe Biden? Think about it

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Speaker 2: this way. This is a very selfish, very calculating guy.

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Speaker 2: He's not that bright, but he's cunning. What incentive does

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Speaker 2: he have to step down at this point? If Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden steps down, just everybody forget about the truth about

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden for a second and think about it like

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Speaker 2: you are Joe Biden. If he steps down, that means

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Speaker 2: that he's effectively conceding all the stuff about the Biden

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Speaker 2: family is true. It means that he's entrusting his fate

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Speaker 2: to either another Democrat to make sure that nothing happens

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Speaker 2: to any of the you know, confederates in any of

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Speaker 2: the co conspi in the plot here. It might mean

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Speaker 2: his family could I don't see, you know, for Joe

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Speaker 2: at this point, I don't really see what the incentive

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Speaker 2: And it's amazing because you look at Trump as well.

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Speaker 2: Trump's only path forward is victory, right, his only path

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Speaker 2: forward is victory. I know we had Uncle Bill on

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Speaker 2: he said there's going to be a deal or whatever.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's gonna be a deal. I think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna fight those court battles all the way through.

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Speaker 1: But I do believe Clay from Joe Biden's perspective, this

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Speaker 1: You know, he's really he's kind of like one of

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Speaker 1: these guys who's been doing media or been doing something

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Speaker 1: it means that everything ceases. He has to be in

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Speaker 1: the game. So I just don't see the only way

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Speaker 1: he gets that he steps down is if there's somebody

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Speaker 1: who's powerful enough. I think basically the Obama apparatus says

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Speaker 2: I could see some sort of like his health is

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Speaker 2: an obvious ramp to allow him to step off of

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Speaker 2: the presidential cycle. I could see some scenario where if

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Speaker 2: his son has to go back in front of the

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Speaker 2: Department of Justice. If he started to think that Hunter

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Speaker 2: was in true legal jeopardy, I could see him issuing

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Speaker 2: a pardon for Hunter if he ever believed that it

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Speaker 2: pardoning my family. Everybody's good to go. I think I've

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Speaker 2: restored normalcy to America and kind of ride off in

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Speaker 2: the sunset and pass the baton to Kamala Harris. That

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Speaker 2: would be a gallant way to exit the stage. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that's likely to happen now. I think it's

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Speaker 2: going to be the force of all of these investigations

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Speaker 2: at some point.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: I really do think, because you're starting to see hints

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Speaker 2: of it, that the full light of or at least

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Speaker 2: the partial might of the media is going to start

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Speaker 2: to pivot. Because when you're talking about twenty million dollars, Buck,

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Speaker 2: Fuck, we could potentially, I know twenty twenty four is

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Speaker 5: They will do it if they can. Everyone needs to

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Speaker 2: Which is why I think Trump needs to start saying publicly, Hey,

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Speaker 1: We're joined now by the Attorney General of Kentucky, Daniel Cameron.

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Speaker 1: Mister Attorney General, appreciate you being with us, Sir.

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Speaker 4: I am honored to be with you all. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, we want to talk to you about that,

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Speaker 1: your upcoming governor's race, how Mitch McConnell could play into things,

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Speaker 1: and a lot more if I could. Though, First, sir,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you. You've taken some action, filed

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, obviously we have made a decision to

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Speaker 4: certain actions be taken by the Secretary of State because

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Speaker 4: it's impacting our people here in Kentucky. We all know

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Speaker 4: that China is creating fentanyl, at least the components of it.

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Speaker 4: They're being assembled in Mexico and then they make their

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Speaker 2: Families appreciate you coming on, mister Attorney General. And by

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Speaker 2: the way, I want everybody listening in the state of

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Speaker 2: a major election happening for y'all in November. Andy Basheer,

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Speaker 2: a question. Attorney General Andy Basheer was a disaster during COVID.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't represent the people of Kentucky. He has been

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Speaker 2: a failure as a governor. Every single one of y'all

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Speaker 2: Daniel Cameron with us right now, Attorney General of Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: there is a dispute. I know you know Mitch McConnell. Well,

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Speaker 2: I know that he is a friend and a mentor

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Speaker 2: I think it's really important. Butsher is saying he doesn't

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Speaker 2: Am I analyzing it correct legally? And isn't this an

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Speaker 4: Clay Man, you hit the nail on the head. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is so important. I mean Andy Basheer and the

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Speaker 4: We need to have that maintained in our federal delegation.

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Speaker 4: And if Andy Basheer gets to make this pick, he's

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Speaker 4: And like you said, they enjoy holding things up in

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Speaker 2: To me, this is a no brainer to decide the election.

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Speaker 2: I want everybody in Kentucky to be listening to this

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Speaker 2: because what they're going to try to sell is, oh, we're.

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Speaker 1: Going to have balanced government. I'm not really a Democrat.

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Speaker 2: But he is saying he will defy the law of

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Speaker 2: as you well know, Daniel Cameron, Attorney General of Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: who should be the next governor. As you well know,

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Speaker 2: in a fifty to fifty Senate, which is effectively where

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a huge deal. I can't believe

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Speaker 4: You're exactly right. I mean, it is such an important

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Speaker 4: sure that we have strong representation there. Again. Certainly don't

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Speaker 4: want to anything to happen to either one of our senators.

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Speaker 4: I value and respect each one of both of them,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky Attorney General Cameron, appreciate you being with us or

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Speaker 1: in good luck to you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much. I'm going to jump off and start

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Speaker 4: reading the American Playbook. So thank you all.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I think you'll enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: I look forward to being Look, I'll put this offer

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Speaker 2: out there this fall when I'm hanging out and coming

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Speaker 2: up for a Kentucky game or one of the races

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Speaker 2: at Keenland. Let me know what I can do to help,

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Speaker 2: and I'll come to one of your rallies with you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that so much. Guys, Thanks God bless you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna come hang out. You want to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm going, I want to go to Keenland. I want

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Speaker 1: to go have fun things at the races too.

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Speaker 2: By the way, let me just let you so for

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Speaker 2: race in Kentucky?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I mean, there's nothing like it. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: the most exciting two minutes in two to three minutes

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Speaker 4: in the world. And man, Buck, we got to get

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Speaker 4: you here. Man, come on with Clay. We'll have a

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Speaker 4: good time. Make sure if we go to Keemlan we

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Speaker 4: do some tailgating as well. We'll catch a football game too.

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Speaker 4: It'll be a nice weekend.

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Speaker 1: That sounds fantastic, mister Journey General. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: We look forward to seeing you and Clay. This is

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Speaker 1: where I admit I have not been to Kentucky before.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I know. So it needs to happen.

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Speaker 1: This is a needs to happen situation. Have you been

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Speaker 1: all fifty Have you been to all fifty states?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I haven't.

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Speaker 2: There's still a lot out west I haven't been to,

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Speaker 2: and I want to go. In fact we have, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to get a trip schedule. I want to get

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Speaker 2: an RV and hit a bunch of different Western states.

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Speaker 2: But Buck, what he just mentioned, I would argue, and

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Speaker 2: people out in Kentucky. Can can can take me up

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Speaker 2: on this if you disagree. The best possible weekend in

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Speaker 2: Kentucky is they have the overlap of the Keeenland horse Races,

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Speaker 2: which happened in Lexington, beautiful part of the country, Lexington, Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: They have the horse race and then they have a

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Speaker 2: lot of times a night football game. So if you

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Speaker 2: can balance the bourbon and pace yourself, you can go

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Speaker 2: watch the horse races in the morning and in the

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Speaker 2: early afternoon, and then you can leave and go watch

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Speaker 2: a night football game in October when the weather is

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Speaker 2: beautiful and it is about as good of a Saturday

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Speaker 2: as you could have anywhere in the country. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure what the overlap dates are, but that'd be a

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Speaker 2: hell of a trip for us to take.

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Speaker 1: Sounds good, you know, Unlike hanging out outside of Miami

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Speaker 1: Second hour of Clay and Buck begins right now. I

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Speaker 1: got a lot to discuss with all of you. For example,

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Speaker 1: the Trump situation here, we are expecting that there will

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Speaker 1: be another indictment next week. That's what reports are saying

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Speaker 1: that the Atlanta election twenty twenty indictment for a conspiracy

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Speaker 1: to defraud or something the people of the state of

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Speaker 1: Georgia that will come from Fannie Willis the District Attorney

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Speaker 1: next week. That is the belief right now. There's also

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Speaker 1: been some interesting back and forth Worth already with Judge

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Speaker 1: Eileen Cannon in Florida, who has already picked up on

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Speaker 1: something you know we've been talking about here, which is

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Speaker 1: that the way that Jack Smith is running this thing

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Speaker 1: with an out of state Special Council grand jury going on,

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Speaker 1: but also bringing in DC, but also doing this in Florida,

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Speaker 1: it looks like he's playing games and trying to stack

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Speaker 1: the deck unfairly against the defendant Donald J. Trump, which

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Speaker 1: is clearly the case. So Judge Cannon already showing a willingness,

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Speaker 1: a willingness I think, to stand up to the machinery

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Speaker 1: of get Trump. In all of this, Klay and I

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Speaker 1: have both felt all along, and I think continue to

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Speaker 1: feel that in Florida he's getting much more fair process.

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Speaker 1: The decision to charge, of course, was made by the

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Speaker 1: Special Council, so that's you know, that's not fair. But

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Speaker 1: the judge, the venue, the likely jury pool in Florida

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Speaker 1: is something approximated a fair ish trial. In DC, we

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Speaker 1: are already seeing it is quite the opposite, Clay, I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you saw this one. Judge Tanya chuck Kind has

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Speaker 1: rejected President Trump's attempt to delay hearing until next week,

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Speaker 1: beyond the deadline. She had said it in an order.

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Speaker 1: And this is because Jack Smith, on this past Friday night,

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Speaker 1: in response to a truth Social post that Trump had

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Speaker 1: if you go after me, I'm coming after you, file

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Speaker 1: a protective order arguing that Trump is going to have

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Speaker 1: a chilling effect on witnesses if he continues to be

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Speaker 1: able to use truth social. So they're looking to put

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Speaker 1: gag orders on Trump during this I mean, that's already

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Speaker 1: in process. Let's weigh in on this and then we'll

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Speaker 1: get to the big store of the New York Times

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Speaker 1: is running here about the J six prosecution or the

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Speaker 1: election fake elector's prosecution. But first, what do you think

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Speaker 1: about how the judges are acting so far. Because I'm

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Speaker 1: the second I see Judge ut Kin speeding through process,

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Speaker 1: I think, yep, they're not going to let this thing

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Speaker 1: get delayed to laughter the election. The left, the Democrats,

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Speaker 1: no way.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's important to note a couple of

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Speaker 2: things the chart. In my opinion, the charges in South

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Speaker 2: Florida are more significantly easy to prove against Trump, but

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Speaker 2: he has a fairer judge and a fairer jury. The

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Speaker 2: charges in Washington, d C. Related to January sixth, So

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Speaker 2: we're just going to break down in greater detail and

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Speaker 2: associated with this New York Times story in a moment,

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Speaker 2: they are much less significant in my opinion. But you

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Speaker 2: have a jury that will convict a Democrat Republican for anything,

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Speaker 2: a Democrat jury, and you have a left wing judge

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Speaker 2: who is going to agree with Jack Smith on almost everything. Now,

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Speaker 2: I want everybody to understand what's going on here, because

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Speaker 2: this isn't about Trump's truth social post. What Jack Smith

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Speaker 2: is trying to do is get this DC judge to

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Speaker 2: impose some form of gag order on Trump, and if

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Speaker 2: he violates it and he is in contempt of court,

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Speaker 2: he's going to try to put him in prison. So

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Speaker 2: I want everybody out there to understand that this is

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Speaker 2: not a battle over oh Trump said something, and I'm

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Speaker 2: really concerned because Trump said something on truth social This

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Speaker 2: is Jack Smith laying out a plan to get this

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Speaker 2: judge to agree that Trump needs to have a protective

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Speaker 2: order put in place associated with what he can and

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Speaker 2: cannot say surrounding this trial, so that if he violates it,

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Speaker 2: Jack Smith can file emotion and get Trump accused of

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Speaker 2: contempt of court and get him potentially put in prison

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Speaker 2: before the trial even starts. So I hope, I hope

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Speaker 2: that Trump's legal team is understanding is what traps are

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Speaker 2: being set here.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about the Rubicon crossing, you know, the back

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Speaker 1: and forth, the back and forth. One area where I

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Speaker 1: think this has been very apparent when they brought the

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Speaker 1: initial charge in New York and the district attorney there

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Speaker 1: with no one even talks about that anymore. The failing

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Speaker 1: to do the paperwork for the election disclosure. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is idiotic, but they brought it. But

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Speaker 1: I remember saying at the time, I said, look, if

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Speaker 1: they do this once, it makes it seem a lot

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Speaker 1: easier to bring more charges.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: It yes, primes the audience in this case the American people.

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Speaker 1: It prepares them for this. And I do think if

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Speaker 1: they can get Trump put in a cell for a day, yep,

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Speaker 1: they'll do it, because then it becomes not only the

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Speaker 1: optics the visuals of that, but it then turns into well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, we did this. You know, secret He'll

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Speaker 1: he'll be in protective custody and Secret Service will have

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Speaker 1: some form of jurisdiction in the protective I don't know however,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. They're gonna try to find a

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Speaker 1: way to do it. But you're seeing very different process

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Speaker 1: in Florida and New York. But let's get to im

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Speaker 1: in DC, well and New York. So many tries. Now

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Speaker 1: we have this, the previously secret memo laid out strategy

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Speaker 1: for Trump to overturn Biden's win. This is the big

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Speaker 1: New York Times piece. They're saying that a lawyer allied

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Speaker 1: with President Trump laid out a plot to use false

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Speaker 1: electors in a previously unknown internal memo. Now this from

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. It's Maggie Haberman and team. Maggie Haberman,

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Speaker 1: who I think got more one on one interviews with

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Speaker 1: Trump than like almost anybody else in the corporate media

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Speaker 1: when Trump was president. Maggie Haberman and a couple of others, Uh, Clay,

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Speaker 1: they they say this is smoking gun, that Trump was

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Speaker 1: a part of a conspiracy of fraud. You know this

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Speaker 1: is game over? You say, not so fast, Lawyer Clay

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Speaker 1: putting the hat on for the defense team. Here, tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me how this isn't smoking gun, because that's what

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Speaker 1: I want to hear.

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Speaker 2: Okay, eight hundred and two A two two eight A two.

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Speaker 2: If you are a lawyer and you ever read this

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Speaker 2: New York Times case and you're about to hear my analysis, Phil,

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Speaker 2: I read a call in and tell me what I'm missing,

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Speaker 2: Because I do think buck for Trump's attorneys, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: I think they sometimes listen to the show, will listen

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Speaker 2: to clips. It's not just a legal fight. You're in

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Speaker 2: the middle of a political campaign. Trump really needs a

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Speaker 2: lawyer who is both a politician themselves and also a

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Speaker 2: lawyer who can adroitly defend him. So let me explain

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Speaker 2: what I read the New York Times smoking gun piece

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Speaker 2: this morning, flying from New York to Cleveland for this

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Speaker 2: event here, and I actually thought it was incredibly exculpatory

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Speaker 2: for Trump. And let me explain why they are citing

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Speaker 2: this here too, for unseen memo which makes a legal

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Speaker 2: argument for why there is a legal way for Trump

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Speaker 2: to avoid the Biden electors coming forward and him being

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Speaker 2: sworn in as the next president. I have never heard it.

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Speaker 2: And again, there's a lawyer out there who can give

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Speaker 2: you an example of this. I would love to hear it.

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Speaker 2: I have never heard of a lawyer drafting a memo

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Speaker 2: that was used as evidence of a crime being committed,

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Speaker 2: a conspiracy, because in theory, the dumbest thing you could

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Speaker 2: do if you thought you were really committing a crime

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Speaker 2: is to write out the roadmap of what your crime

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Speaker 2: is in a legal memo. You write legal memos, and

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Speaker 2: this is taking a lot of you into the practice

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Speaker 2: of law. You write a legal memo to advise a

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Speaker 2: client on a potential legal path, and oftentimes there are

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Speaker 2: multiple legal memos that may be drafted because there are

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Speaker 2: multiple different arguments that you could make. Here is synthesizing

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Speaker 2: what I think is the essence of this that makes

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Speaker 2: this not a crime. I'm talking about January sixth related charges,

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Speaker 2: the conspiracy filed by Jack Smith. Trump had attorneys who

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Speaker 2: believe that Mike Pence, as vice president, could reject the

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Speaker 2: electors from states where he believed fraud had occurred, and

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Speaker 2: that if Pence rejected those electors, that it would then

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Speaker 2: be sent back to the state legislators, and the state

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Speaker 2: legislat chores would then say, we have a disputed election.

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Speaker 2: We are picking a new slate of electors, and we

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Speaker 2: are sending them to represent the state of let's say Georgia,

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Speaker 2: and instead of Biden electors, we're sending Trump electors because

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Speaker 2: we believe fraud happened, and as the state legislature, we

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Speaker 2: believe we have the authority to select who represents this state.

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Speaker 2: We have a Republican majority in the state legislature. We're

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Speaker 2: sending them back to New York, back to d C.

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Speaker 2: Then Trump would have won the election based on the

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Speaker 2: way that that played out. Now, that was, as the

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Speaker 2: memo says, an argument legally that was like to be

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Speaker 2: rejected by the Supreme Court. But merely because the Supreme

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Speaker 2: Court rejects a legal argument doesn't make it a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: Buck Biden thought tried to take away four hundred billion

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Speaker 2: dollars in student loan debt. They shot it down. The

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court did. Was Biden's attempt to do away with

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Speaker 2: student loan debt a conspiracy? Biden tried to do an

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Speaker 2: extension of the eviction moratorium something Buck that he said,

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Speaker 2: Biden himself said his own advisors were telling him he

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Speaker 2: didn't have the constitutional authority to do. Was that a conspiracy?

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Speaker 2: So that's the legal theory based on the memo. But Buck,

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Speaker 2: here's here's what I think clears Trump. And again, if

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Speaker 2: you are out there and you are a constitutional scholar,

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Speaker 2: I know we have some listening. Tell me what I'm missing.

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Speaker 2: In December of twenty two, Buck, they went Congress did

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Speaker 2: and they changed the law to make it clear that

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Speaker 2: Mike Pence didn't have the ability to do what Trump's

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Speaker 2: lawyers were arguing he should do. If they had to

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Speaker 2: change the law, doesn't that mean that there was clearly

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Speaker 2: an ambiguity, because if there wasn't, they would have never

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Speaker 2: needed to change the law.

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Speaker 1: Look, if I'm in that jury stand, I think that

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Speaker 1: Clay has has he well, he would have convinced me

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Speaker 1: before he spoke, because I also think that this isn't criminal.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's very compelling here's the problem. This

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Speaker 1: is in DC. The judge doesn't care. Yeah, the jury

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Speaker 1: is going to want to destroy him. There are superseding

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Speaker 1: indictments I believe coming, Yeah, and part of that is

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Speaker 1: going to be turning some of the lawyers against Trump.

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Speaker 1: I think that that has to be the next Why

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Speaker 1: are all these lawyers named in this indictment and some

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Speaker 1: are rather alluded to right as like co conspirator number

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Speaker 1: one or whatever. They're gonna flip them. And then it's

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Speaker 1: going to be even if he wins legally, let's just

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Speaker 1: say he would legally. And I think the only way

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Speaker 1: that happens is a Supreme Court. There's going to be

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Speaker 1: a Supreme Court component to this, right, They're gonna step

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Speaker 1: in and say, hold on, this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court's going to strike down the Jacksmith prosecution. N

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent believe it.

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Speaker 1: This is what I mean. But even if that happens,

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Speaker 1: Democrats are banking on Trump's lawyers will turn on him.

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Speaker 1: This will create a public record of the court that

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Speaker 1: will look politically bad. Not for this audience, not for

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Speaker 1: Trump voters. They're not going to care, but just enough

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Speaker 1: for independent voters in swing states to say Ooh, I

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Speaker 1: don't like this. So they case they can win politically

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Speaker 1: even if they lose legally, and they think they're going

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Speaker 1: to win legally. But we'll see a lawyer's out there.

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Speaker 1: I know that.

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Speaker 2: I know I sound like a nerd walking through exactly

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Speaker 2: my argument here. I hope if you're not a lawyer

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Speaker 2: you can understand it. But the crux of it is this,

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Speaker 2: if they have to change a law to make it

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Speaker 2: clear that what Trump wanted Mike Pince to do, he's

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Speaker 2: not able to that, to me is evidence that the

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Speaker 2: legal argument was not crazy, because otherwise, why do you

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Speaker 2: need to change the law. Right If I said to you, hey,

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Speaker 2: it's legal for you to go murder someone on October

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Speaker 2: thirty first, You'll be like, why can't I kill somebody

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Speaker 2: on Halloween? It's like the Purge? And you just said, man, Clay,

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Speaker 2: you're crazy for making this legal argument. And then in

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Speaker 2: your state they went and they passed a new law

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Speaker 2: and they said, hey, by the way, specifically, you can't

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Speaker 2: kill anybody on October thirty first, we're amending and altering

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Speaker 2: the prior law. You'd be like, man, maybe Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: had found a loophole. Why did they need to change this.

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Speaker 2: When you change the law, you are acknowledging that there

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Speaker 2: was potentially an ambiguity or a flaw in the law,

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Speaker 2: which is why I think when this eventually reaches the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court, they're going to toss it. But again, there's

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Speaker 2: brilliant lawyers out there. I guarantee you listening. What am

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Speaker 2: I missing? I would love to hear.

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Speaker 1: Part of the problem as the lawyers making the argument

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Speaker 1: were kind of like, this argument is garbage. Again, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna hurt them again. But politically it will hurt legally,

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Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: But buck Joe Biden's own lawyers again this has told

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Speaker 2: him you don't have the authority to end the eviction moratorium,

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Speaker 2: and he still did it.

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Speaker 1: So this is not uncommon.

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Speaker 2: Lawyers regularly tell the president, hey, you don't have the

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Speaker 2: authority to do it, and then the president bows up

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Speaker 2: and says, I'm the president. I'll do it anyway. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what the Supreme Court says. So this is not uncommon.

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Speaker 2: Presidents regularly get told by their advisors, hey, you don't

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Speaker 2: have the authority to do this. I'm sure there were

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Speaker 2: people in the White House telling Biden held Nancy Pelosi,

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Speaker 2: did you can't cancel student loan debt with a stroke

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Speaker 2: of a pen?

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Speaker 1: I again, I agree with you. I guess I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of doing Devil's advocate here. But it's a little bit

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Speaker 1: like if you have a remember how Wesley Snipes tried

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Speaker 1: to defend himself on the tax fraud. You remember this,

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Speaker 1: he said, my accounts told me that this was that

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Speaker 1: I could do this, basically that I had a loophole

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Speaker 1: and not pay taxes. You know what happened to was

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Speaker 1: Snipes Federal prison didn't matter because they said you should

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Speaker 1: have known. So what happened to the accountants was that true?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm actually fascinated. Did they prosecute the accountants this?

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Speaker 1: I do know this, And this is a whole other

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Speaker 1: thing with that, the defense because pret Burara, who was

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Speaker 1: going after all these hedge fund guys, the defense of

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Speaker 1: I just did what my expert, my paid expert, told

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Speaker 1: me to do. And then the expert is I was

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Speaker 1: just giving advice. I didn't actually do the thing. Whether

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Speaker 1: it's insider trading, accounting, you know, whatever that prosecutors don't

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Speaker 1: necessarily look kindly on that depending on the anyway I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying that's probably an approach they may try to

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Speaker 1: take here, but the Supreme Court probably saves the day.

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Speaker 1: Trump wins the election, America goes forward and prosperity and happiness.

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Speaker 1: I am hopeful, everybody, I am hopeful we'll get more

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in now Renumber three Clay Travis Bucks Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We've had

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun, interesting arguments. What was the best

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Speaker 2: Joe Pesci movie? Correctly connected to the best legal defense

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Speaker 2: for Donald Trump? In January sixth? By the way, side note,

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Speaker 2: Marissa Tomy best supporting actress in My Cousin Vinnie.

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Speaker 1: Did you remember that? Buck?

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Speaker 2: That was an unexpected win, great movie. Marissa Tomay also

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Speaker 2: incredible had for political commentary. We were number one with

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Speaker 2: the book, number two with the audiobook, and I did

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Speaker 2: all ten hours. You're going to find out this next year. Buck,

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Speaker 2: sitting and reading every word that you wrote and not

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Speaker 2: being able to edit any word that you wrote is

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Speaker 2: one of the most challenging things. I think about writing

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Speaker 2: a book ten hours and you're like, oh, man, I

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Speaker 2: should have put the paragraph before this one. I should

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Speaker 2: have added in an ex explanation here ten hours, all

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Speaker 2: audio and the Kendle book. You guys had us number one,

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Speaker 2: number two, and number four on Amazon. Unprecedented associated with

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Speaker 2: all that. Now, there's a bunch of different stories out there.

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Speaker 2: Biden crime family gets twenty million dollars, they found cocaine

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Speaker 2: in the White House. You teased the Montgomery Battle, which

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into here momentarily, but Buck, I

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Speaker 2: wanted to play this audio. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: saw this. Do you remember the New York Times. Tom Cotton,

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Speaker 2: Senator from Arkansas, wrote a piece during the summer of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, when all our national riots were going on, saying, hey,

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Speaker 2: let's call out the National Guard and actually protect cities

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Speaker 2: and protect states.

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Speaker 1: Good argument. I was doing radio shows and I was

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Speaker 1: very upset at what was happening in cities, and I

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Speaker 1: was not pleased with the response from the White House

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Speaker 1: initially then under Trump, which was to tweet law and

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Speaker 1: order in all caps a lot and didn't do very

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Speaker 1: much in the early phase. They got it together, but

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Speaker 1: there was a delay of about a month there, which

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Speaker 1: is right about when this editorial was going to be

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Speaker 1: in the New York Times. And the New York Times

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Speaker 1: is such a far left wing organization that when this

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Speaker 1: editorial was published by a sitting United States senator, the

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Speaker 1: editor in charge of the New York Times editorial page

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Speaker 1: they fired him. They said, this is unacceptable. And I

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Speaker 1: think am I'm remembering correctly. I think it was the

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Speaker 1: brother of the Colorado senator that was forced out, Bennett

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Speaker 1: am I remembering this correctly. I believe it was a

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Speaker 1: Democrat senator's brother who was running the New York Times

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Speaker 1: editorial page What happens after January sixth? By the way,

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Speaker 1: every Democrat immediately demands that the National Guard be called

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Speaker 1: out to protect everyone in d C.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't allowed during BLM. Immediately becomes necessary during January sixth.

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Speaker 2: So I bring this up. Washington, d C. Mayor Muriel

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Speaker 2: Bowser is there. They are dealing with an unprecedented twenty

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Speaker 2: first century crime wave. They are on pace to set

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Speaker 2: a plus twenty year high for murders, and a member

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Speaker 2: of the DC City Council had a press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Buck and a sign of how rapidly the whole defund

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Speaker 2: the police moved has collapsed, which I think is the

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Speaker 2: dumbest political slogan in argument, maybe of any of our lives.

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Speaker 2: Now they are asking for there to be the National

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Speaker 2: Guard called out and for DC to input martial law

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Speaker 2: so that everybody is safe in this city. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know how many people are going to play this audio,

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Speaker 2: but this is a Democrat member of the DC City Council.

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Speaker 2: DC is overrun with Democrats. Buck and I have both

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Speaker 2: lived there. It's not a surprise, but d C is

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Speaker 2: so overrun by left wing politics that now it's starting

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Speaker 2: to spin back in the other direction and people are saying,

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Speaker 2: wait a minute, it's not safe here. Listen to this SoundBite.

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Speaker 2: I want to get this guy's name correct. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to scroll down for a second. Make sure this is

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Speaker 2: a Democrat councilman Treyon White saying we live in a

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Speaker 2: war zone.

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Speaker 1: Listen, cut six.

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Speaker 4: Te.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in Washington, DC when we were considered

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Speaker 3: the murder capital, and we know how those times were.

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Speaker 3: But I submit you today that today now is worse

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Speaker 3: than it was then. The ancient police chief Smith stated

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Speaker 3: that we are not in a war zone. I know

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Speaker 3: those who live here know that we are clearly in

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Speaker 3: a woll zone. So I have spoken with the DC

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Speaker 3: national gods, and while I have to have more conversations

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Speaker 3: with the chief policeman, I have today and the mayor

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Speaker 3: and my colleagues, we have a long way to get there.

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Speaker 3: We just know that police alone is not getting done.

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Speaker 1: So look, this is We've known that the whole Democrat

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Speaker 1: narrative about why things have gotten more foland in cities

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Speaker 1: and the role of BLM two point zero. In this

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Speaker 1: we talk about that a lot. DC is another example

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Speaker 1: of this. As an aside, I also think people should

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Speaker 1: keep in mind Washington, DC, as a city has probably

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Speaker 1: the greatest concentration of law enforcement resources of any place

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Speaker 1: in the entire United States. And you know, maybe, and

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Speaker 1: I mean anywhere in the free world, certainly. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's there are more agencies with more men and women

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Speaker 1: who have guns to enforce the law in DC than

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Speaker 1: anywhere else. And he says, Okay, let's bring in the

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Speaker 1: National Guard to do something about this. National guardmen standing

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Speaker 1: on the street. I don't know what they think that's

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Speaker 1: necessarily going to do. It's equivalent maybe to presence patrols

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Speaker 1: for law enforcement, where people are less likely to do

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Speaker 1: legal things in front of them. The problem is prosecution. Actually,

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Speaker 1: the problem is political will and prosecutors and prosecution. That's it.

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Speaker 1: It's not like the cops don't have the resources to

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Speaker 1: deal with this problem. And this is why you know,

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Speaker 1: he's this councilman's moving in the right direction, but to

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Speaker 1: move far enough. The issue is the Democrat approach to crime.

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Speaker 1: The issue is Democrat prosecutors, many of whom but not

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Speaker 1: all are sorrows backed in these major cities who will

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Speaker 1: say that the law is unfair, criminal justice is racist

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Speaker 1: in this country. Therefore, to deal with that, we have

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Speaker 1: to enforce the law less. We have to be less punitive,

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Speaker 1: less punitive, less harsh. This is a disaster. So you know,

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Speaker 1: you could have National Guard for a month or two

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Speaker 1: in the streets of DC. They're not going to have

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Speaker 1: arrest authorities. I don't even know. You know, maybe it

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Speaker 1: would have some deterurn effect in some of these higher

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Speaker 1: crime areas Clay. The real problem is when somebody comes

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Speaker 1: before the court and they're a bad person doing bad things,

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Speaker 1: are they punished or is it you know, we don't

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Speaker 1: think that it's fair the way the demographics break down

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Speaker 1: in this city of who's going to prison? So we're

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Speaker 1: going to take a different approach. Do you just do

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Speaker 1: you deal with who? Do you take race entirely out

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Speaker 1: of the equation and say this person did something that

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Speaker 1: is really bad in a violation of law and deserves

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Speaker 1: to be punished regardless white, Black, Asian, Hispanic, or are

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Speaker 1: you playing social justice games with Well, we need to

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Speaker 1: be more soft on crime because the system we have

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Speaker 1: is racist because of the legacy of racism in the system,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing that's I mean, this is fundamentally the

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Speaker 1: only way any of this changes.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's so interesting. The people you hear

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Speaker 2: cheering in the background, they are Republicans. The guy that

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Speaker 2: you hear speaking, the city councilman is a black guy

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Speaker 2: and a Democrat. Yeah, and everybody cheering if you watch

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Speaker 2: the video, are black residents of DC. Yes, they are

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Speaker 2: saying we are unsafe, we live in a war zone,

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Speaker 2: we need more protection. And they're right now, I mean,

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Speaker 2: being quite frank, I mean, they're gonna set twenty plus

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Speaker 2: year highs for murder.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat Party on crime is griffe activists who raise

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars so they can buy mansions under the

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Speaker 1: name of, you know, helping with social justice or racial

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Speaker 1: justice or whatever. So there's the grift component for the activists,

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Speaker 1: which just go look at what's going on with BLM,

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Speaker 1: the organization BLM in recent years. You know, there's actually

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Speaker 1: like an entity that takes money in all the money

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Speaker 1: given from all these corporations. That's one component. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: it really is, you know, you can pick a Democrat

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Speaker 1: at random, but it's like multimillionaire Joe Scarborough saying it's

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Speaker 1: no big deal, not that dangerous up where I am

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Speaker 1: in Nantucket in the summer. It's not even I don't

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Speaker 1: even hear a peep about this gunfire. They're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Those Republicans. Such a bunch of racists. Wait where do

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Speaker 1: these Democrats on TV? Where are the multimillionaire Democrat pundits

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Speaker 1: and politicians? Do they live in high crime areas? Do

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Speaker 1: they deal with the consequences of their sort? You know,

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Speaker 1: I'd be really curious to see. I'd be really curious

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Speaker 1: to know where all these individuals who said the cities

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Speaker 1: aren't that dangerous? Where do they live? Where do they

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Speaker 1: choose to be?

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Speaker 2: Well, they's security details help, and then the walls that

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Speaker 2: surround their gated mansions help as well. Walls don't work

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Speaker 2: on the border, but they surely work around rich people's house.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing how often that happens. But buck ultimately, what

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Speaker 2: we're seeing here is a massive repudiation of Democrat crime policies.

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Speaker 2: And I think there's a huge opening here for Republicans

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Speaker 2: as we move towards twenty twenty four, to speak out

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Speaker 2: on this issue and say we are trying to solve

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Speaker 2: the issues that have arisen because of let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: the BLM idea that there are too many minorities being punished. Now,

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Speaker 2: I want to mention this, do you know the only

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Speaker 2: group that is getting severely punished by the DC District

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Speaker 2: Attorney's Office by the federal government in DC right now

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Speaker 2: Jan six Of course, they are elevating every Jan sixth

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Speaker 2: charge in trying to put somebody in prison for as

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Speaker 2: long as they possibly can, while they are simultaneously reducing

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Speaker 2: almost every violent felony to a misdemeanor. I'm wondering how

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Speaker 2: you know you might have seen this. There was a

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Speaker 2: an Asian family assaulted on the New York City subway system.

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Speaker 2: The video because a video of it so when viral,

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Speaker 2: and it was a sixteen year old black female who

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Speaker 2: was the one who started punching and attacking this Asian family,

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Speaker 2: yelling apparently anti Asian slurs. Is she Is she going

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Speaker 2: to be charged as an adult with a hate crime

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Speaker 2: or are they going to make sure that this is

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Speaker 2: a minor issue legally speaking? I think they'll probably charge

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Speaker 2: Daniel Penny with another charge, you know, to make up

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Speaker 2: for the fact that this occurred.

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Speaker 1: To be fair, Daniel Penny should go to prison longer

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Speaker 1: for the assault that somebody else did, you know, just

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Speaker 1: to balance things out. Yeah, that's that's probably how they'll

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Speaker 1: do it. It's you cannot get a fair Andy, I know,

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Speaker 1: you know, the intrepid journalist of the one who's in Portland. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: in Portland, he can't get a fair trial either. And

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Speaker 1: you know they've got anti fut dosing him the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're in Portland, it doesn't doesn't matter, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: It's all politics now. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And as a result, our justice system is collapsing and

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Speaker 2: many otherwise innocent people are living under as this guy

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Speaker 2: pointed out, a war zone DC emblematic of what's happening

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Speaker 2: in many different cities all over the country because Democrat

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Speaker 2: policies on crime have failed. When a service member or

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Speaker 2: of duty, who's there for them or the families left behind?

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