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Speaker 1: am Tom Pelisero. Let's start off with some breaking news.

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Speaker 1: the air. Judy and I are here to hold it down. Judy,

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Speaker 1: place that you can get all this news. Let's start out, Judy,

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Speaker 1: with what we learned in terms of CD, because there

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Speaker 1: was a lot coming out of the long week. It's

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Speaker 1: still not over, but the first four one game that

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Speaker 2: First, let me say that playing football practically every day

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Speaker 2: really big week for teams, like locking in their seatings

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Speaker 2: So like, there's a lot of teams that we could

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Speaker 2: see resting next week. It's going to be really interesting.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll talk more about it, about the decision

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Speaker 3: Yeah, our office needs to book the game. So they're

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Speaker 3: on me to find out. Not because not Hi, hi everybody,

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Speaker 3: not because this not because.

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Speaker 4: They weren't talking, not because they want the information for

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Speaker 3: For the record, uh, we're probably not going to cover

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Speaker 3: Are we talking about this, by the way, are we

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Speaker 5: We're literally listening to you go into it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if I was breaking format here.

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Speaker 3: Saquon after the game. I do think he him getting

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Speaker 3: And if Nick Sirianni says we're planning arresting our starters,

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Speaker 3: I think see he's saying whatever Sirianni wants. I truly

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Speaker 6: He affects the team so much running back, right, Sometimes

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Speaker 5: Yes, make an organizational decision.

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Speaker 5: Well, so to me, we got a little bit of

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Speaker 6: Like Sekuon got two thousand yards, which was very cool,

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Speaker 6: the team is the thing. The super Bowl is the thing.

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Speaker 6: So it's like, there's no way that Saquon can play.

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Speaker 6: then it's like you put the record, which like exists

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Speaker 1: The record stood for like forty years, so, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, is what makes it The only reason why you

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Speaker 1: Brushing yard first quarter in his career, so it is

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Speaker 5: Did you guys know who had the record and what

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Speaker 1: It's like you're in a tough territory here. I would

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Speaker 2: But can I just also be a cynic and say

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Speaker 2: having them in the late game gives you the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: which is always a gigantic television drawn no matter what's

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Speaker 1: You have the Ravens, you want Lamar on the field, Okay,

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Speaker 1: meaningful game regardless, but potentially the Bengals could face a

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Speaker 5: So let's say that happened. Let's say Ravens win.

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Speaker 6: Sure, then the Steelers are playing for either five or six.

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Speaker 1: Right, the Steelers would be playing would be five or six,

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Speaker 5: Five, right, and if they win, they're definitely.

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Speaker 1: If the Charger wrecked, I'm trying to I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: all this. Yes, I believe that's correct. This area where

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Speaker 2: The Steelers would have something to play for.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that feels like something.

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Speaker 1: It's something, but it's not as much as we can

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Speaker 1: capture the division right now. Now. I do think the

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Speaker 6: Were you guys not cringing with how many runs Jayden

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Speaker 2: But but he's I mean, wow, has he been something?

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Speaker 1: Every time you just have like this point you're really

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Speaker 5: Sorry, Bedarien Mathis was claimed by the Jets. This is obviously.

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Speaker 6: To hear what I would say, Michael Pennis take over,

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Speaker 6: I don't know that we're gonna have a bad playoff

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Speaker 6: team in it. Like you know, if the if the

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Speaker 6: Broncos are the word the Broncos or the Bengals are

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Speaker 6: the worst team innute, that is as good a playoff

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Speaker 6: thing as we've seen. Like, I don't know it's gonna

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Speaker 6: be awesome and I'm looking forward to But one of

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Speaker 6: the reasons just been like excellent, Yes, Blake, Blake, our

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Speaker 6: researcher one to stop the dog if the Dolphins got

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Speaker 6: in THEYD, but everyone else.

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Speaker 1: One other. Sam Darnold point before we move on and

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Speaker 1: talk about who potentially could be the next team drafted

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Speaker 1: a quarterback up really high like Sam Donald was some

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Speaker 1: years ago. Is I was struck by number one, the

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Speaker 1: number of people around the league who reached out. I

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Speaker 1: think it is just from seeing at the game, knowing

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Speaker 1: I was there and just being like, I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: for Sam. You would think some on some level, you know,

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Speaker 1: people who have been with him before, be like, man,

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Speaker 1: where was this when we needed him. He's such a

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Speaker 1: good guy, He's so well liked that everybody's just genuinely

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Speaker 1: happy that he's actually able to go out there and

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Speaker 1: have success. The second point I wanted to make was,

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Speaker 1: and this is an everything I was thinking of while

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Speaker 1: sitting in absolute standstill traffic, because I made the mistake

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Speaker 1: of trying to cut through down town Minneapolis instead of

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Speaker 1: just going to Saint Paul in the Highway and then

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Speaker 1: training around and coming back. I normally do last night

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Speaker 1: is everyone keeps talking about, like Sam Donald, We've never

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Speaker 1: We've never seen something like this before. Never has there

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Speaker 1: been a quarterback it just comes out of nowhere and

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Speaker 1: has this type of magical run. And all I can

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Speaker 1: think of is most of the time when the Vikings

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Speaker 1: go deep in the playoffs, this is what has happened.

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Speaker 1: Ninety I had this nineteen ninety eight, Brad Johnson got

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Speaker 1: hurt Week one, Randall Cunningham took over and they went

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Speaker 1: fifteen to one before losing to the Falcons in the FCGA.

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Speaker 5: And Cunningham wasn't the under that season, was.

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Speaker 1: Not the starter. Brad Johnson started Week one, got hurt

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Speaker 1: and you're a week one or week two. Randall took

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Speaker 1: over and had the run. Two thousand Dante Colpever. That

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Speaker 1: was his first year as the starter. Nobody knew what

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Speaker 1: to expect from was the answer. Championship game lost to

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Two thousand and nine was Brett Farre's first

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Speaker 1: year as the starter. He had been with the Jets

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Speaker 1: the previous year, had surge around a ruptured biceps ten

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Speaker 1: in and it was like, is he gonna have it?

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Speaker 1: And he did and they lost to the San Stampson

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Speaker 1: Championship game and then twenty seventeen, Sam Bradford gets hurt

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Speaker 1: Week one and incomes case Keenum, who goes on the

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Speaker 1: run of the Anty Championship game where they lose to

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. Like this is a pattern. This happens to

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Speaker 1: the Vikings over and over again. The main difference is

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Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold, you feel like this might have stayin

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Speaker 1: power because he's not the end of his career like

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Speaker 1: Randall Cunning and Amber Brett Farvre. You know, Dante had

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Speaker 1: a good career for five years there before he blew

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Speaker 1: out his knee. And you know, Case Keenum, they opted

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Speaker 1: not to bring him back. They let him go to

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Speaker 1: Denver and they signed Kirk Cousins. But it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Vikings fans have seen this before, like they have been

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Speaker 1: down this road. And I know from the hundreds of

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Speaker 1: texts I get everybody keeps waiting for like when is

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Speaker 1: that bad thing going to happen? And you see the

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Speaker 1: bad thing happen. And credit to Kevin O'Connell when it's

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Speaker 1: an interception or whatever. He just keeps calling pass plays.

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Speaker 1: He just says Sam, like We're just gonna keep going

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Speaker 1: to you and he just he throws his way out

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Speaker 1: of it. It's been impressive to watch. And now they

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Speaker 1: got to go face the team that we talked about

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Speaker 1: from go this season as the team to beat in

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Speaker 1: the NFC, which is the Lions. On the other side

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Speaker 1: of things, there is quite the competition to see who

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Speaker 1: can get the number one pick. By quite the competition, Judy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, nobody seems to want to hold on to

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Speaker 1: the number one pick because it continues to change hands.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots now are the ones who if they were

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Speaker 1: to lose this week to a Bills team that's resting everybody,

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Speaker 1: they would be drafting number one. But based on what

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Speaker 1: we've seen in recent weeks from the Raiders and the Giants,

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Speaker 1: who knows, there's a lot of teams that are in

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Speaker 1: that mix.

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Speaker 2: I innocently tweeted when the Giants were playing well yesterday, Wow,

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Speaker 2: the Giants have a look this good all season and

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Speaker 2: Giants fans must be a little bit conflicted. And the

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Speaker 2: responses I got, including in my own apartment, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we're just furious, Like, we're not conflicted.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I need that.

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Speaker 6: Does your husband follow you on Twitter? And if he does,

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Speaker 6: does he have your alert?

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Speaker 2: Like not alerts. Watching watching Giants games at home involves

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Speaker 2: him generally standing like ten inches in front of the

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Speaker 2: TV's on the wall and understood U. So, but the

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Speaker 2: reaction from Giants fans was like, no, we're not conflicted,

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Speaker 2: like this sucks, this is a disaster. Why are they winning?

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Speaker 2: I can't answer that question. I think it's a testament

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Speaker 2: to the fact that like people in the NFL don't

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Speaker 2: tank usually because there's no such thing as a guaranteed contract.

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Speaker 2: All those guys are playing for their jobs, coaches are

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Speaker 2: coaching for their jobs. It's great for them to win,

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Speaker 2: except when you're not picking number one overall.

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Speaker 1: So well, Joe Milton out there and see what happens

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Speaker 1: this week too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the Patriots. The Patriots are an interesting thing because,

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Speaker 2: let's face it, I mean, they played the Bills close

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Speaker 2: when the Bills were at full strength two weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: last week, whatever that was, and now presumably the Bills

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Speaker 2: are going to rest everybody that matters, So that's an

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Speaker 2: interesting case what they're going to do. I'm interested to

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Speaker 2: see how Mayo handles that. Jord Mayo sort of cast

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Speaker 2: question on whether he would play Drake may anyway, but

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Speaker 2: Drake Mays seems to think he's playing, so we'll go

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Speaker 2: forward with that idea. It's a I mean, man, fans,

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Speaker 2: are you know Giants fans are so beaten down from

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Speaker 2: this season that the only thing that we're holding on

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Speaker 2: to was the idea of the number one overall pick

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Speaker 2: and that fell apart, and they're not happy.

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Speaker 3: The sound as Neighbors was running toward the end zone

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Speaker 3: was a smattering of tears and booze.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I have that's going on here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's just like, there's your number one pick from

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Speaker 7: this By the way, he was killing it and he's

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Speaker 7: just running free towards the bood have.

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Speaker 1: Like nine teams that are three or four wins right now.

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Speaker 1: The other one is also there with the Jets, who

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Speaker 1: played maybe the worst game we've seen it play this

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Speaker 1: entire season.

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Speaker 3: I think the they bring Aaron Rodgers back and.

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Speaker 1: It was early in the game who they played.

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Speaker 3: They played the Rams next last week and they score

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Speaker 3: and he's dancing or whatever he was doing after his

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Speaker 3: uh and I was like, well, they finished strong against

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Speaker 3: the Jaguars. It started strong here like here, it comes here,

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Speaker 3: it comes the like three game stretch four game stretch

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Speaker 3: of him playing well and connecting with Adams and like, oh,

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Speaker 3: he still got it left, and then you make that.

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Speaker 6: No, like yeah, I mean, the scariest thing about Rogers

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Speaker 6: I want to talk about the Giants the second. The

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Speaker 6: scariest thing about Rogers is that Jets came into the

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Speaker 6: season being nervous about older player leg injury or not

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Speaker 6: just leg injurs, like like weariness, right, Like that's how

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Speaker 6: the cops are after dud Again.

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Speaker 5: That's how you that's how you can tell.

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Speaker 6: Players getting old, is he kind of los his legs

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Speaker 6: and this basketball goes away. It's like fortunately, it's like

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Speaker 6: Kirk Cousins too. And then Rogers comes in with an

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Speaker 6: MCL injury yesterday. He's been banged up lower body all

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Speaker 6: season and looks. I don't I don't know what happens

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Speaker 6: next year, but I would have a hard time imagining

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Speaker 6: it's on the team wearing green the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty seconds, see.

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Speaker 6: Thirty second, here's my thirty second point in the Giants.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what else they could do absent someone

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Speaker 6: calling down to Brian Dabo and having them run it

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Speaker 6: up the middle like the player, like the coaches would

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Speaker 6: like to keep their jobs.

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Speaker 5: The players would like to play and win.

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Speaker 6: It is so high stakes losing Benetait as a franchise

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Speaker 6: so much, and so few people on the field actually

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Speaker 6: cared about it. It's like almost nothing else that we cover.

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Speaker 6: I have no resolution or how to fix it. I

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Speaker 6: just know over the fans like, yeah, I think that

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Speaker 6: problem well.

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Speaker 1: And if Brian Dable wants to be a part of

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Speaker 1: drafting the next quarterback winning and showing, guys are still

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Speaker 1: playing hard and you can, if you get competent quarterback

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Speaker 1: play score some points. You can beat a team that

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Speaker 1: should have had everything on the line and played at

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Speaker 1: least defensively.

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Speaker 5: Like a thirty seconds, Why do you have so much

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Speaker 5: more time?

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Speaker 1: I'm this is me wrapping up the show. This is

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Speaker 1: how the podcast works. This again once again the last

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Speaker 1: of the Monday YouTube and podcast. We'll miss the general chaos.

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Speaker 1: So that's always be comfy all the time. Now, Jeff Collet,

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Speaker 1: our producer, as saying, actually, thirty seconds, all right. Part

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Speaker 1: two of this podcast is there are two Every week

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Speaker 1: we will talk more about the Bills. We'll talk about

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Speaker 1: those other teams, including the Bengals that are in the

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Speaker 1: playoff hunt. We'll get to all the stereos too. The

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Speaker 1: NFC South is still up for grabs. What if we

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Speaker 1: make of the Bucks at this point, A whole lot

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Speaker 1: more as we look ahead to Week eighteen. So see

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Speaker 1: you there on part two. For Ian, Mike and Judy,

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Speaker 1: I'm Tom. See there,