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Speaker 2: But the Lakers didn't come to play today.

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Speaker 1: The turnovers, the misshots, and when you play a really

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Speaker 3: And I just felt like they took Luke out the

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Speaker 1: It was embarrassing and like you said, yeah, look, we understand. Lakers,

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Speaker 1: So the Lakers playing something, you're not playing the thunder

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Speaker 3: It is. It was nothing. It was nothing they could do.

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Speaker 3: in the first quarter, Joe, Yeah, they were down twenty shit. Yeah, Hey, listen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, one rebound, no assisse in twenty minutes and

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Speaker 2: And that's all I'm asking. Now. They couldn't. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: When you watch the Lakers, everybody's like that. When they

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Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna come.

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Speaker 3: But the thing is, and that's what they have to

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Speaker 3: was too many times I seen them dudes jogging up

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Speaker 1: Of the problem that you have, Joe, is that to

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Speaker 2: And when you play come in.

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Speaker 2: That's embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, but but but but think about it.

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Speaker 3: This is why I say they have to be on

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Speaker 3: Were at the end of the season, we're still jocking

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Speaker 3: be a constant. Oh we see, Oh Joe has joined us,

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Speaker 4: Yep, yep, every everything is good now, everything is good now.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here, misscheall and uh, outside of that,

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Speaker 5: I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I'm right here, twin. You know, I'm just I'm just.

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Speaker 4: You know, anytime I get the lay eyes on on

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Speaker 2: Time, Joe, I'll just trying to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Think about it, boy, I love to be Shay that

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Speaker 4: Look, hey, hey, I got a question. I got a question, Joe, Hey,

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Speaker 4: answer for Shave when he put that god damn ball

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Speaker 5: And he is, he is, he is. He not the

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Speaker 2: Listen, you seen it?

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Speaker 3: You seen it, hey, listen, you see the way that

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Speaker 2: They can't do nothing with him.

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Speaker 3: See, he already know, Ojoe, them dudes can't stand in

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Speaker 2: Man, he already know that. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: And the pressure that he put on them dudes.

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Speaker 3: You got to be in some shape, man, to be

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Speaker 2: It's almost like Venice James Harden.

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Speaker 1: You James Harden had that stretch and Joe and nobody

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Speaker 1: getting those files because he gets you on his hip

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Speaker 1: and then he jumped back into you because remember they

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Speaker 2: On three point shots. Yeah, making four point plays.

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Speaker 1: But shade right now, he the game is like, it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's shape. He can see things.

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Speaker 1: He's like, Okay, I know, y'all gonna be like, I'm

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Speaker 2: I can you know what I can get through this? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I don't know how they got in. Show you how

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Speaker 2: Y'all basically gotta be stacked.

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Speaker 1: Y'all gotta be legged behind leg because if you not,

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Speaker 3: Hey, And it seems like it seems like he's moving

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Speaker 3: at just some paste. It's just a lot faster than

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Speaker 3: everybody else. I don't know if it's me, but you

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Speaker 2: Like the game is so easy for him. Man.

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Speaker 3: I love watching him play, and you can I think.

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Speaker 3: He him bro, he I know he a tough guard

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Speaker 3: out there. I mean, they can't do nothing with him

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Speaker 1: I mean they try to look, uh, he's he's having

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you getting bird.

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Speaker 1: Magic, Kareem, You getting Jordan's uh, you know, Kobe Wan

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Speaker 2: You get guys like Hard and you get Lebron. You know,

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Speaker 1: But for this guy to to have figured it out

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Speaker 2: I can't leave it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you know you know what I don't understand. You

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Speaker 2: Listen, all of us.

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Speaker 4: It's specially at that level with regardless the sports you play.

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Speaker 5: There has to be some of what we're seeing now

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Speaker 1: No one here when we had T Mac and T

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: But I believe as long as Paul, George and Kawhi

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, third option don't don't blossom like this. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just a better example Norm Nixon. Norm Nixon was

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Speaker 1: What do they do to storm In Norman? Trade him

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Speaker 2: That's the goal.

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Speaker 5: I mean they can't. They have no other aspects of

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Speaker 4: saying their greatness is damn stifle because they don't have

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Speaker 4: the ball.

436
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Speaker 1: Guys better with the ball in their hands. You got try.

437
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,440
Speaker 2: To give you an example. Let me ask you a question.

438
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Speaker 1: If if Jared Rice stays in San Francisco and they

439
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 1: still feed him, can TiO become what he became in

440
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:43,920
Speaker 1: San Francisco.

441
00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 5: No, because it's only one ball to go around.

442
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: That's my point. So in order for order for TiO

443
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 2: to grow, what did they do to Jared Ojo?

444
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Speaker 5: You gotta go.

445
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 1: For jas N to do what he did and become

446
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Speaker 1: what he became. Could k have been there? Could Tyler

447
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 1: Lockett of.

448
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: Statem Oh.

449
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Speaker 5: No, I don't know why. I'm you in the basketball

450
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 5: game a little different.

451
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:20,160
Speaker 1: Because you look, look, some guys can play off the ball.

452
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: Luca needs the ball in his hands. Lebron has been

453
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Speaker 1: able to adapt for the longest Lebron can play off

454
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Speaker 1: the ball. I still believe Lebron would be better if

455
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,200
Speaker 1: he had the ball, but he understands at forty five, yes,

456
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: Luca's team.

457
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: Now he has to adapt.

458
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: He's better at adapting, and because he's played so long,

459
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: he had to adapt. Lebron was a downhill guy. Well,

460
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,960
Speaker 1: as you get older, you can't get downhill like you

461
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Speaker 1: once could. So what did he have to do develop

462
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 1: the three ball? He knew he was gonna lose some athleticism.

463
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: What did he do? A king? Teach me, Hey, teach

464
00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 2: me that dream shape? Yeah, I guess someone that Kobe.

465
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: Went to the dream shake. Kobe went to Elijah one,

466
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Speaker 1: So teach me that. So in other words, oh, Joe, yes,

467
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: you gotta think about it. You got a two time

468
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year and a two time Finals MVP.

469
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: It is twenty he's twenty something years old. You're not

470
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Speaker 1: turning the franchise over to a guy in his second

471
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Speaker 1: or third year when you just gave up heaven and

472
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Speaker 1: Earth to get that guy right?

473
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Speaker 2: Get it? Yeah?

474
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 4: And some people obviously that know the game better than

475
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Speaker 4: I do. I mean Uncle Joe. Joe, when I think

476
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Speaker 4: about it, I look, I look at football players. Obviously

477
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 4: you're only good at your opportunities you get. And being

478
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 4: in basketball, it's twenty five people on the court and

479
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 4: most of the time, even if you do have someone

480
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 4: single handedly holding the ball most of the time, if

481
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 4: you're great, no matter what, whether you're handled or not,

482
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Speaker 4: that greatness is always going to show because when those

483
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 4: opportunity to present themselves, now I'm gonna show up that

484
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: That's that's why I only have a little bit of

485
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 4: push back. But obviously, Uncle, you would would know better

486
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 4: than not do, especially in that because regardless how great

487
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: you are, if your game evalls and you have to

488
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 4: adapt to the situations that you win because someone else

489
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 4: has the ball more in the time, I'm just thinking, listen,

490
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: no matter where I'm at, no matter the situation, greatness

491
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 4: is gonna always show up, and you're gonna be that guy,

492
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Speaker 4: especially with the way the way shave.

493
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Speaker 1: But he needs the ball in order to be that.

494
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: Shae is really not an off the ball player. If

495
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: you notice when Shae's in the game, what a shit.

496
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Speaker 2: Have in his hand? Don't Joe?

497
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: Yeah?

498
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 2: The ball? Yeah? Can he occasionally slash can.

499
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: He'll occasionally die yes, but most of the time he's

500
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Speaker 1: calling for the.

501
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: Pick yeah, or telling him to get out of the way,

502
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: get or get out of the way.

503
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: Mainly is Jalen Williams coming off the coming off the

504
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: pin down, coming off the slip or the flare that's

505
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: not shape. Yeah, guys can be great. Magic Johnson needed

506
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: the ball. Magic Johnson is a point guard. Could he

507
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 1: cut occasionally, Yeah he could because sometimes Norm Nixon had

508
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: the ball. But Magic was not gonna be the magic

509
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: without that rock.

510
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.

511
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why bigs don't get the credit

512
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: that they deserve, because what I gotta get you the ball. Yeah,

513
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: people don't give Kareem will Russell a Duncan shot. They

514
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: don't get the credit they deserve. Man, he can't do

515
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: nothing without the ball. At least most guards, most small

516
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 1: guys six under the handle of the ball. Guess what,

517
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: I can bring the ball up the court. Occasionally we

518
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: saw a shot, you know, a couple of times get

519
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: open break, But for the most part, that's not what

520
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: they're doing right.

521
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 2: But Shay Is I've been watching a lot of balls.

522
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Speaker 1: He's he's in that he's in that stretch right now, Joe,

523
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: He's in that stretch remember, uh now some guys staring to.

524
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Speaker 2: Say along alone. Yeah.

525
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: Jordan within it from eighty one, from eighty four to

526
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: ninety one, ninety he retired coming back and didn't get

527
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: back in it again. And you see Lebron, you see Kobe,

528
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: you see James Harden. I'm talking about guys that have

529
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: the ball and we like they out there touring with

530
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: folk man James Hartman. Joe, you was in the league

531
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: with James like this man literally playing with people.

532
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't.

533
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 3: I think with Shaye, what's this his third fourth year

534
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: in a row, averaging thirty a game.

535
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: Yes, and he shot fifty percent.

536
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 1: That's what you That's what it's the The most impressive

537
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: thing to me is not the thirty because you can

538
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: take a bunch of bad shots and get the thirty points.

539
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: You shoot enoughty point. Yeah, but it's the fifty percent.

540
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, only he and Jordan has ever scored thirty and

541
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: and shot fifty percent about and let.

542
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Speaker 2: That sink in.

543
00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: As a perimeter guy, yes, as a at guards guard, yeah,

544
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: bigs are bigs out of coestion.

545
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: I mean they dunking the ball there the ball up.

546
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: They don't cop I mean Yoke shooting fifty seven damn percent. Shack,

547
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: y'all think Shack might be a career. Fifty eight to

548
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: fifty nine. He was shooting I remember what what was that?

549
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan shot like seventy percent all of with ally dunks,

550
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: lob dunks, put back dunks the playoffs.

551
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: I think he should. I think Shaye's shooting like fifty

552
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: three fifty four percent, Yes, like that. I don't think

553
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 3: people understand how insane that is to be a guard. Yes,

554
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: shooting that percentage? Bro, you are not only are you efficient,

555
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,880
Speaker 3: but you're so consistent. You know what I mean? Night

556
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 3: that on a night to night basis, Bro, you can

557
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 3: bet your money on dude man and he getting it done.

558
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 3: Okay o yo, bet your bottom dollar a A. And

559
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 3: the thing is, you know, uh uh, he just it's

560
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: like he's putting his foot on the gas because he

561
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: had a lot of these statement games. You know, they

562
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 3: run you talking about your own uncle. It's like everybody

563
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: who we play against is supposed to be competing within

564
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 3: this MVP race and they more putting it down. Man,

565
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: he ain't playing outside of when they played Boston.

566
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: Hey, since I got y'all here, Hey, let me show

567
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: y'all something.

568
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 4: Hey after after night, after tonight's game, does that change

569
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: your view on the Lakers?

570
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Despite how I never I never, I never thought they

571
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: could beat the thunder, I never thought they could be

572
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: San Antonio in seven games.

573
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: But change but for the Lakers to be a three seed,

574
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Yeah, you can't get like that, man, You.

575
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: See the No. No, what I'm saying is it's a.

576
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 3: Huge gap in between one and three. That's how great.

577
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 3: That's how great Okac is. That's what I'm saying. I

578
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: think the Lakers pretty good. But when you're talking about

579
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: competing against the best, the champs, come on, bro, you

580
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: can't come out here, y'all. Get off there, y'all down

581
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: eighteen to four to start?

582
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: The man? Please, who y'all fro the you get down

583
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: on this team, they gonna put your.

584
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: Way in and and and that building starts to rocking.

585
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: There's nothing else going on there. Oklahoma is is college

586
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: is football, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State.

587
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: That's what you got. So that's so they going crazy? Yeah,

588
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: it was.

589
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: It was embarrassing that the Lakers came out and gave

590
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: that kind of effort after the effort that they've been

591
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: given the last month for them to put that kind

592
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: of to put that on tape on you.

593
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: You know, that's what we say. That's what you put

594
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 2: on tape. Hey, that's what that right.

595
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: I just want you to know. The next team and

596
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: the next team and the next team, that's what they

597
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: gonna see the tape. Don't lie, see I's w I

598
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: tell people Tate don't lie because the Tate don't know

599
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: who you are. It doesn't know if you black or white.

600
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't know if you make twenty dollars or twenty

601
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: million dollars. It don't know nothing. It don't know what

602
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: time of day it is. It don't do nothing. All

603
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: they do is record what the hell is pointed at.

604
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, hey, look when I used to be in

605
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: the games, that's how I used to be thinking about

606
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: Uncle Oo. I got shut them in my spot that way,

607
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 3: when we look at field tomorrow, Al and Joe talking

608
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 3: about do this, Joe, why you wasn't here? I should

609
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 3: hate that. So I make sure I'm always in my spot.

610
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: Make sure I got a man, make sure I close

611
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: out hard. You know what I mean, little stuff because

612
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: I already know because it get real bad, we're gonna

613
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: watch that thing. And the last thing that you want

614
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: to do is watch that thing of a team, Oh, Joe, like.

615
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 5: Oh Lord, Helbert, Yeah, and and everybody looking.

616
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: At you, Hey, what you're doing on this one? Oh yeah, yeah,

617
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: that's me. Hey, they keep rewinding it too.

618
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe, we had we were a special team. We

619
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: had our special team coach at the time with Richard

620
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: Smith and uh kicked off playing San Francisco.

621
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: Boo.

622
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: I'll talk about the dude I'm talking about dude got

623
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: he was on kickoff team. The chick return dude jacked

624
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: him up by So he read it back and said,

625
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm tired of telling you every time I talk to

626
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: you in every game you're on the ground. So he rewinded, Look,

627
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: you're on the ground again, rewinded you on the ground again.

628
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: He rewinded five times, talk about you on the ground again.

629
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: It's the same play. I was like, I wonder if

630
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: he knows that this is the same play. He just rewinded.

631
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: But listen, because the thing is, Joe, you know a

632
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: lot of time you can get away with stuff in

633
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: the game because you're like nah, you know we're gonna

634
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,239
Speaker 1: blow this team out. Yeah, we ain't gonna watch this

635
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: team for anything like that. But when you get everybody

636
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: in the entire offices there together, so the offensive line

637
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: watching it, the wide receivers and running backs to the quarterbacks,

638
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: so we and there as a unit.

639
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: I'll be like, God, dang you sorry.

640
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, hey, eighty four, you got to be

641
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: strong with your outside. You just saw that man bull

642
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: the shit out of our tackles had three hundred pounds.

643
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: You talking about sharp. You need to be outside.

644
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: You should have told you, Hey, that film says you.

645
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: Hey boy, Hey, that film says it'll start a fight

646
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 3: for sure. Yeah, hey that film session real boy?

647
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: Run that back all right, bro, we just saw it.

648
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, keep being funny.

649
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: Enough is enough?

650
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Keep being funny now? Yeah. I don't miss those days, man, listen. Kay.

651
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: Cunningham is out at least one more week due to

652
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: a collapsed lung, and Anthony Edwards out due to a

653
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: recurring knee issue plus an illness. Both will be unable

654
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: to play the minimum sixty five games required to be

655
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: eligible for postseason awards, and ain't know the twenty two

656
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: players who may be all NBA or all defensive teams

657
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: are now ineligible this season.

658
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 3: Joe, this is insane, fellas you know, because some things

659
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: you just can't control.

660
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: And you know, you put the rule in because you.

661
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: Want to punish guys for low management and things of

662
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: the sort with them, Kay, cunning him get a collapse.

663
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: Long, what are you supposed to do? Ojo?

664
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 3: What are you supposed to do now? Yeah, he can't

665
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: even he can't even come on, man, man.

666
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna get those spots, joke, it's gonna get a

667
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: big contract extension. They got all NBA, all All NBA

668
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: and all Defensive team, yes.

669
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 5: Sir, because they were because there was as.

670
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: You got to pick somebody as.

671
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 5: Hey, it's it's almost unfair.

672
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 4: It's almost unfair to the star players that would make

673
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: that would get all that would get all NBA, you know,

674
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 4: especially when if an injury, you know, comes about and

675
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: now you're punishing the player for being hurt.

676
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: Well, it looked like we agreed to this, We had

677
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 3: to agree to this. Uh, sixty five games you gotta play.

678
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's tough.

679
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, because because k definitely would have been he for

680
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: sure probably would have been first and second second team.

681
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's gonna be hard because when you look

682
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: at it, Joe, you got Luca, you got Shay, you

683
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: got JB, you got Ky Cunningham, you got Wimby, and

684
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: you got Yo Kisch.

685
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: That's six players. Only five get to the first team. Yeah,

686
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: so you might well take ad On up out of that.

687
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Now, kate off all the teams second, first, second, and third.

688
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: So now somebody gets to come into the mix that

689
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: might have been on the outside looking at two people

690
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in.

691
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: Damn, that's wild man. Yes, but this is this.

692
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: Is they brought this on themselves, sitting their ass down.

693
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: The big games come on Saturday night or the games

694
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: come on and ain't nobody available. So the NBA say,

695
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: you know what, we put a start of this sixty

696
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: five games. They agreed to. It sound like a good

697
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: idea at the time. It's not like a good idea.

698
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: See what happens is that the boy that cried wolf,

699
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: O Joe, he cried wolf so many times that when

700
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: the wolf actually came, ain't nobody listening.

701
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: See these guys really hurt.

702
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: Now, they lied so much about injury, and I'm injured,

703
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: I'm this, and I'm that boom.

704
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 2: Who there it is?

705
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 5: You got that they shouldn't agree to it?

706
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: An Joe, Man, I mean I ain't. I don't. I

707
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: ain't gonna say you shouldn't agree to it.

708
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: I just think obviously it's it's it cut out.

709
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 2: The load management to some degree.

710
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 3: But you just you just had these unfortunate situations with

711
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: the Anthony Edwards in k You know them dudes love

712
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: playing man. They don't be right like that, you know

713
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 3: what I mean. So you got guys who you were

714
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 3: trying to punish, but you end up punishing.

715
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: The innocent, and that actually hurt. These dudes are showman bro.

716
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: When they come, they play it every night, they put

717
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 3: on the show, they put up numbers. They're great for

718
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 3: the game. And it's just unfortunate that this rule has

719
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: kind of ruled them out for any awards. But guess what, Joe,

720
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: that it also got guys because normally guys take an

721
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: extra week where you know, I'm wanna make sure I'm healthy.

722
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: It got guys bringing their ass back. You see brought

723
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: his lass back, didn't you see Whitby brought his lass back.

724
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: Didn't you see your Luca brought his last back? Didn'ty yeah.

725
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

726
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: It got guys bringing their ass back instead of saying,

727
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna take me an extra week off. Okay,

728
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: yeah right, right right, yeah yeah, these guys sometimes you

729
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 1: gotta impact them pockets.

730
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I hate it.

731
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 2: I do. It's different, Joe.

732
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: Go ahead, I'm gonna I'm gonna say, every time they

733
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: win in one of those awards, Joe, you get extra

734
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 4: money like an incentive some people.

735
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: But but yeah, you get you get that super Max.

736
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: That's when you start getting to for you the five years,

737
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: three hundred, that's when you start getting that. When you

738
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: start getting on up there. You get the All NBA Team,

739
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 1: All Defensive or a m v P or Defensive Player

740
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: of the Year. So you get those awards. It's kind

741
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: of like, oh, Joe, if we had not like if

742
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: we didn't.

743
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: Like football, a Pro Bowl or All Pro or received

744
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: wide Receiver.

745
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if they still do that NFL p

746
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: P A Wide Receiver of the Year.

747
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 2: I did still do that, Oh Joe.

748
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: I ain't heard that. I ain't heard Wide Receiver of

749
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 4: the Year before. I've heard the Offensive Player of the Year.

750
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Outside of that, they used to have what you call them.

751
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Because I was tight end. I was a tight end.

752
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: I went in ninety six. I was a tight end

753
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: because I thought I should have won a couple of

754
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: more times. But that's not to hear. But no, they

755
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: used to the NFL PA used to have used to

756
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: have a award.

757
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ain't ain't no about that, man, And that's

758
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: messed up how they play with them boys money like that,

759
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 4: and now am if you don't play, if you don't play,

760
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: shoot if you missed. Ooh, so now I'm not I'm

761
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 4: not eligible for the Supermax because now I'm really hurt,

762
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: and you want to punish me for that.

763
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Ruler, rulers, the rude man you signed up.

764
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: For that said thing. Oh Joe, it's like what we

765
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: talk about, O Joe. We get mad because guys ain't

766
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: got guaranteed contracts. But what do those guys do? You

767
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: see right now, the CBA ain't up until twenty thirty.

768
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: The NFL already going back to the networks. Say look

769
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: at what y'all try to do. Put a little package.

770
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: You see what they did.

771
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: Now we ain't talking about this, but you see if

772
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: they did, Oh Joe, remember they used to have the

773
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: double head and the triple head. On Monday night, they say,

774
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: we're gonna take that away. What we're gonna do, We're

775
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: gonna package it. Now, who want a little five six

776
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: game packaging for about five hundred mil m definite? They

777
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: say we won't it, Amazon saying we'll take it. You

778
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: see how they did that on Joe.

779
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: Now now they bedding, Yes, come on talk.

780
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: So now the money is there, get your kirk Cousins.

781
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Do you realize, like ninety seven, ninety eight percent of

782
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: kirk cousins money has been guaranteed, So this notion that

783
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: they can't guarantee contracts, it's just not true. Oh yeah,

784
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: you say, hey, kirk Cousins, y'all want your boy. He

785
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: then what I need? I need to make the money right.

786
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: I don't need my money to jump funny at no

787
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: point in time. Make the money right, funny, think about it.

788
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: So not I want to say for somebody like kirk Cousins,

789
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, God has favor and it's all

790
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 4: about timing. When it's in the NFL and at times,

791
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 4: Uncle Joe, you got the better than yourself.

792
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: And when it comes to good luck and when it

793
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 5: comes to timing.

794
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins has been a model citizen in that area

795
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: because he is hit right every single time. Uncle, I'm

796
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: not mistake he is. He not the highest grossing NFL

797
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 4: quarterback of all time.

798
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: When it's all said and done, k you just got

799
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: twenty million guaranteed from the Raiders and the Falcons still

800
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: owe him.

801
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: Teen get money the Kirk Kirk.

802
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: But it just goes to show you, Oh Joe, you

803
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: know why he was able to get guaranteed money because

804
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: they really wanted him. They franchised him twice, and Minnesota says,

805
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: you know what we want you. We're gonna put you

806
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: on a three year d and we'll fully guarantee the contract.

807
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 1: They said, well, damn, he like you do that for me? Okay,

808
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: you want me to come back? How many need another

809
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: three years fully guarantee? You know how I know they'm

810
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: fully guarantee the contract because of Cleveland Browns did it

811
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: for DeShawn Watson.

812
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: Two hundred and thirty meeting.

813
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they can if they wanted to guarantee money,

814
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: if the players really put their foot out.

815
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: But you gotta be able to be some checks. You

816
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 2: gotta be able to be some checks. Now.

817
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: The problem that you have is that a lot of

818
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: times the lord toier guys don't see themselves as guys

819
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: being able to make that big money, so they say,

820
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: I need this right now. See, they don't look at

821
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: themselves like the star quarterbacks. Of course, star quarterbacks say,

822
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: let me have you to look at our rock party example,

823
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: mister irrelevant, one of the highest paid players in the NFL.

824
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if wide receivers and other positions see

825
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: themselves as that being possibly them Only the quarterbacks.

826
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: Look like, well, damn, I can be bad for a

827
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: year or two, have.

828
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 5: One good year instead, And yeah, you said you.

829
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: Safe, So that's but that's but that's how you gotta

830
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: do it.

831
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: And I just think the thing of the NBA say, man,

832
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm tired of y'all, y'all talking about loathe me.

833
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: And how do how do I know? O? Yo?

834
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: You say man, you call hey man, I'm a little

835
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 1: under the weather, so I ain't gonna be able to uh.

836
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna be able to make it work? How

837
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: do I know? How do I know?

838
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: I ain't in that person's body, so I don't know

839
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: if his ankle is really hurting, if he's really dealing

840
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: with the soreness or his back is hurt. So I

841
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: tell you what I'm gonna do. We know y'all want

842
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: them titles, because hey, when it comes down to pick it, Hey,

843
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: how many All Star time, how many are all NBA selections?

844
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: Warrior?

845
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: How many All Defensive Warrior, m VP's Warrior. Hey, they

846
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: paying for that. You get a little extra for all

847
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: that lot of extra. Carmelo Anthony believes that ar has

848
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,720
Speaker 1: the n V locked up. Mello said, right now, Shays

849
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: has that thing on the lock. One hundred and thirty

850
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: five games with twenty or more, he broke Wil's record,

851
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: He's shooting fifty five percent from the field. He's having

852
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: a better MVC season this year than he did last year.

853
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: And he leaves the league in clutch scory, carrying that

854
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: defending champs maybe again to the best record in the NBA.

855
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: If that's not MVP, I really don't know what is.

856
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: If he wins it this year, he's up there with Lebron,

857
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: MJ and Russell. Yeah, damn, because I think the thing

858
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: is because he's back to back. Yeah, Bird is the

859
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: last to win it three consecutive times. He won it

860
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: eighty four, eighty five, eighty six. He's the last three

861
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: time MVP. Jokich is the last two times back to back.

862
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: Jokicchen won it back to back, Lebron won it back

863
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: to back twice. Jordan obviously he's won it back to back.

864
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think the Magic winning back to back.

865
00:41:55,120 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I know Kareem I know Kareem Russell Chamberlain.

866
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: So the back to back, Oh, it's it's It's tough,

867
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: o Joe, because you're talking about the year history and Lebron, Jordan, Bird,

868
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: Kareem Russell Chamberlain got six guys off the top of

869
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: my head. Let's magic check and see if magic one.

870
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: I know Magic wonted three times, but I don't know

871
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: if he went back to back.

872
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: Hey, he gonna get it too. He gonna win it

873
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 3: this year, he's gonna win VP, and.

874
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: So probably probably from now on based on the trajectory

875
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 4: if I said that right.

876
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: So Janni went back went back to back then the

877
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Joe m v P. Yeah, I think he did, because

878
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: I know one year he sandwiched the defensive.

879
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 2: Player of the Year with one of those. I don't know.

880
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was back to back he

881
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 3: may have had he may have though, Okay, so after.

882
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 2: Go back to back.

883
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: Because I know he won he won in twenty fifteen

884
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: when he twenty fifteen sixteen when he was unanimous MVP.

885
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think he wanted it back

886
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: to back though. What'd you say, O Jojo?

887
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 4: I say, after s j A SGA went it back

888
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 4: to back this year, Wimby's probably gonna be back to

889
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 4: back as well.

890
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe big bait the way he's going.

891
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: Oh so he might be on something if he If

892
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: Weinby had what twenty three a game? Now, I say

893
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 3: it's probably gonna go up another two or three points

894
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: at Nash if your next teammate want it back to back. Joe,

895
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: were you there when he went Yeah, I was at

896
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: the first year. I was gone a second. You only

897
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: played one year with Nash.

898
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: If you look at it, it's that, I mean, it's

899
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: it's rare. It doesn't happened off depth depth show don't

900
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: happen in the NFL. Oh, Joe, you know that?

901
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think Peyton might be doing maybe Jim Brown

902
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 2: mm hmm.

903
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey man Shay taking in personal bro and I

904
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: heard I heard him. I heard him in the interview say, uh,

905
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: you know, and didn't sit well with him last postseason,

906
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 3: you know, because even though they wanted but them going

907
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: seven games with Indiana. Yeah, he said he didn't feel

908
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 3: like huh and Nuggets. Yeah, yeah, he said he didn't

909
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: feel like you know, he he felt he could have

910
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: played better. I ain't gonna say he didn't feel like

911
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 3: he was an m v P, but he felt like

912
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: he could have played better.

913
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: And that's what they playing like right now. Man.

914
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: They playing with the edge, They playing with attitude, and

915
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 3: dude playing like he's determined, you know what I mean,

916
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: Like he gonna show everybody who the best player.

917
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 5: Now.

918
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: I ain't gotta be out here advocating for myself talking

919
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 3: about I should be m v P. I don't do

920
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 3: all that. My game gonna do all the talking part.

921
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

922
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: Cooper Flag says rookie season has been really mentally taxing. Obviously,

923
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: it's been tough, like you said, through high school college.

924
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean I only lost four games last year, So

925
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: there's been time of this season where it's been really

926
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: taxing on me, just not having the success that I

927
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: would have hoped for. And obviously we've had a lot

928
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: of injuries and a lot of things happened throughout the year,

929
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: but it's obviously not been ideal. And I mean I've

930
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: had I've had growth along the way, and I've had

931
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: and I've gotten better to learn on the fly. Definitely

932
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: not the start I would have looked for. But hopefully

933
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: eventually I'll be able to look back and know I

934
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: was able to learn a lot from this Joe sport

935
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: that you played. Obviously, first round number one pick overall,

936
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: high expectations, and he's shown flashes that he was the

937
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: right pick to be number one overall. But what advice

938
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: if you know you could talk to Cooper Flag, what

939
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: advice would you give him?

940
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: Man?

941
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: The advice I would give him, Ocho is to continue

942
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: to just work bro and enjoy the game.

943
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: You know.

944
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 3: I think once we once we become pros and you

945
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: see the work that you have to put into, you

946
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 3: start to lose the fun in the game, you know

947
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, Because it's a job now you know it,

948
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 3: and you know you're getting the gotta you know, you

949
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: got bills and stuff now. So I think I think

950
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 3: guys have a tendency to, you know, lose sight of

951
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 3: what really got you started in the playing whatever game

952
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 3: was football or basketball, you know what I mean, Like

953
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: you got to continue to still love it.

954
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 2: You can't look at it like a job.

955
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 3: Obviously, the Dallas Mavericks expectation for Cooper Flag was to

956
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: come in and play with Kyrie and Ad correct. Well,

957
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: both of them got hurt and this is kind of

958
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: what you was left with. So his learning curve had

959
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 3: to be sped up a little bit. Yeah, and yeah,

960
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 3: you come from a place where you haven't lost a

961
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: lot of games. Man, when you get to the pros,

962
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: it's a reality check when you're a number one pick,

963
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: when you're a top pick and you have to learn

964
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: the game on the fly like that, you ain't really

965
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: got nobody to learn from, you know what I mean,

966
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 3: you take a toll on you, bro. It's a learning

967
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: curve that you have to go through.

968
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: But guess what, Joe at Duke, he trotted his ass

969
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: out there in the court. He had the five best

970
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: player he had to for his team, had the five

971
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: best players on the court.

972
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: When you trot your.

973
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: Ass out there every night, you ain't got the five

974
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: best players on your team on the court.

975
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 5: You got to hold your own.

976
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: Now, how many times did he would Douke with all

977
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: those five stars that they had, Joe, that they took

978
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: the court, that they didn't have the five best starters

979
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:33,240
Speaker 1: on the court.

980
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: Or four out of.

981
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: The five right, right, And it's been like that for years. Yeah,

982
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: you go to the NFL, Hey, Ohio State or Alabama

983
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: or whomever else they normally step on the field or

984
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: the twenty two starters they probably got fifteen or the

985
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: best twenty two. M step your ass on the field

986
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL game or NBA game and see how

987
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: that looks. Got to work out for you, because you're

988
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: a whole different level. Them grown ass men ain't no

989
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 1: study hall, ain't no per diemn. They playing for college tuitions,

990
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: They playing mortgages.

991
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, real talk.

992
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: A lot of them got mom or sometimes that not

993
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: only do they take care of their mom, they can't

994
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 1: they take care.

995
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: Of mama mom. Yeah.

996
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a whole different ball game, bro, them grown

997
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: ass men out there.

998
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, grown And you're a target. When you're an early pick,

999
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: number one pick, you can lit there for my table. Boy,

1000
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 3: You a lottery I mean you, you you're target, meaning

1001
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 3: like every time every chance somebody get to play against you,

1002
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: you're gonna get their their absolute.

1003
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: Best yeah, oh yeah, you know that. Oo.

1004
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter damn the number one, dB, the

1005
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: number two or three, like man, I got oo. Man

1006
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: if I back this ball down, I get me a pick.

1007
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: And you know that. You know how that mentality was.

1008
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: Everybody can get it, coaches and all.

1009
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: It didn't matter where I was. We go to the

1010
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl.

1011
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 1: I ain't let you get You're not getting me because

1012
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: the first of all, just cause we crossed the water,

1013
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 1: don't think you can guard man, ain't nothing change. Ain't

1014
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: change because what's gonna happen on y'all? You're gonna get

1015
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: your ass back to the mainland and think you could go, No.

1016
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 5: You can't anything.

1017
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 2: It shows me you can't just because we came ten hours.

1018
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, guess what when we get your ass back to

1019
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 1: this mainland and I see you, you know what's gonna.

1020
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 5: Happen same as the same man.

1021
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: Please, But it's tough. I mean losing. Look, I promise you,

1022
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: losing hurts more than winning feels good. Listen to me again, Chad,

1023
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: Losing hurts more than winning feel good. You never feel

1024
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: the hot even with winning the Super Bowl. And I

1025
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to be on three teams and my

1026
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: team won, but the losses that I had, I can

1027
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: only imagine losing the super Bowl?

1028
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the Super Bowl? Man? They got the

1029
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 2: thing lined up?

1030
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,959
Speaker 1: Oh yo, they be like, hey, yo, yo, think about

1031
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: how many people you done brought there? And all them people, y'all,

1032
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm playing this big celebration. They done got entertainment. They

1033
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: probably got Snoop Dog, they got Little Wayne, they got

1034
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, hell, maybe they got the Google dolls.

1035
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: I don't know who we got. But you're planning a

1036
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: big celebration. How you supposed to go?

1037
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: Oh Joe?

1038
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: How Joe? How you supposed to go have a good

1039
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: time when we lost.

1040
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: The super Bowl? That's hard, bro, I can't have no

1041
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 2: good time. I ain't gonna even hold you.

1042
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm not going, Mama Libby, y'all can go.

1043
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm aa saw a loser like that too, man, I

1044
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: ain't gonna lie to i'ma saw a loser, Joe. But

1045
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 2: I'm a worst winner. Let me win? Don't you let

1046
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,479
Speaker 2: me win? Don't you let me win? Yeah?

1047
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: The kids that the kid obviously and very fortunate because

1048
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: the kids were there, like there, we want to go,

1049
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: We're gonna go. Okay, Fine, I mean, I don't even

1050
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: know who you didn't handle. I think we have a DJ.

1051
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: So it was fun for the kids to go. But

1052
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: they already know if Daddy lose.

1053
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1054
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not talking, they're not saying anything. They already know.

1055
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: We look, I don't I think I only lost one game,

1056
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: one game in my career that my kids actually come

1057
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: regular season whatever, what the case was. Yeah, yeah, they

1058
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: already know. Kids quiet as church life.

1059
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: Ain't nothing, ain't nothing about.

1060
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 4: That's a Super Bowl loss with the with the Patriots

1061
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 4: that year.

1062
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I forgot about that, oh Joe.

1063
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1064
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: I mean it was like it was like a death

1065
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 2: in the family.

1066
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean it's kind of different because I

1067
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: didn't like I normally used to so like, but.

1068
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: To make it that follow, but to make it that

1069
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: follow and.

1070
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 4: Lose, yeah, hey, it was such a how do I

1071
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 4: how do I say this? I still remaining respectful. It

1072
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: was such a difference for me, you know, and and

1073
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: and understanding. Okay, this is why they consistently went all

1074
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 4: the time just watching the way they conduct themselves, watching

1075
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 4: the way they run things from top to bottom, you know,

1076
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: ing New England at the time, it.

1077
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 5: Was it was.

1078
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 2: It was.

1079
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 5: It was shocking sense. Okay, now I get it. Now

1080
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 5: I see what the forum is.

1081
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 4: The formula is in the way they approach things and

1082
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 4: you know, day to day basis it was.

1083
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 5: It was Joe's Joe.

1084
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 4: It was a way that it was a whale oil

1085
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 4: machine from top to bottom with the person at the

1086
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 4: helm not playing Nathaniel.

1087
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 5: He don't play.

1088
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 2: Man.

1089
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 5: He do not play man.

1090
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 4: And nobody has to explain it to you, Joe. It's

1091
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 4: like you walk in the building in something, but it's

1092
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 4: just something. I don't know how to explain it, but

1093
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 4: everybody and everybody said the same thing. You hear it,

1094
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 4: but you never understand it until you've been.

1095
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 5: On the team.

1096
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh now, behavior, Hey, Joe.

1097
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: There are very few that that were able to conduct

1098
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 4: themselves that they want to. Gronk was one of them

1099
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 4: who had a personality or he did what he wanted.

1100
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 4: And you know, when Aaron Hernando was there, he's won

1101
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: because he was that boy with them two was playing together.

1102
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 4: He kind of conducted himself and did what he wanted to.

1103
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: But they were so good because you know what they know.

1104
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 4: You knew what she was gonna get on the field

1105
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: with so outside of that. Everybody else mild manner, no quiet.

1106
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 4: So you see a Randy. Randy got out of hand

1107
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 4: and said something to the medium.

1108
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 5: Hey Joe, he was gone.

1109
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 4: He come he coming off a twenty three TV season,

1110
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 4: record breaking season.

1111
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 5: Gone.

1112
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: They don't care, how grade you everybody I had Brady,

1113
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: I did. I forget what I did, but I was

1114
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: doing something for the NFL. And I asked Brady. I said, Brady,

1115
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 1: would you give I said, Tom, would you give up

1116
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 1: two of those wins to win that Super Bowl that

1117
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 1: you lost to the first Joants? He said absolutely absolutely.

1118
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: Ask him the question I would love to ask him,

1119
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: did you get as much enjoyment from winning as the

1120
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 1: pain that you got from losing? And I loved hear

1121
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: what he has to say because I've heard most people.

1122
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: Most say it that losing. Let me ask you a question.

1123
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: It was the losing that drove Jordan. It wouldn't a

1124
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: winning the championships. It was getting his ass beat by

1125
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 1: the Celtics. It was getting his ass caked by the Pistons.

1126
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: That's what drove in. Yeah, Lebron, it was getting his

1127
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: ass kicked.

1128
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: That's what drove it.

1129
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: Go back, look at Joker, look at Djokovic Federal kicking

1130
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: his ass, Nadg kicking his ass.

1131
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 2: That's what drove him, not the winning.

1132
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes I wanted to man, if Jordan had won early,

1133
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: would he have still had that hunger and desire? If

1134
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 1: Kobe had an airball some of those shots early in

1135
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: his career, if he had a came in and been playing,

1136
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: would that of drove it? Probably not. Sometimes it takes failure, Yep.

1137
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it takes disappointment in order for you to achieve

1138
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: the ultimate success. That's what Joean. Listen to Jordan talk

1139
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: and listen to what fueling. I got tired of losing. Yeah,

1140
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: I got tired of losing to Boston. I got tired

1141
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: of losing to the Pistons. Every time I come up

1142
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 1: to the Pistons, I get beat. I come up against Boston,

1143
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: I get beat. Said enough of this. I need to

1144
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: get bigger, I need to get stronger. Yeah, man, they

1145
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 1: even have no off season. When right in the training next.

1146
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: Day, y'all ain't never heard of nothing like that. After

1147
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 3: the last game, playoff, you'ven lost, and you tell your

1148
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: training I see you in the morning.

1149
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm right back in the lab.

1150
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: Oh no, Probably if i'd had some money and I

1151
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: like to travel. I went so well down by my loans.

1152
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. After that season, boy, you need

1153
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: to decompress a little bit. Yes, and man right back

1154
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: at it. But once, once the season was over, I

1155
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: tell my homebus to look here, man, y'all got a

1156
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: month to come see me.

1157
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna lock back in. Yeah.

1158
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: Once I locked back in that four to six weeks. Jo,

1159
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 1: when I locked back in visiting, ain't no more hanging out.

1160
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:11,439
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1161
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 2: Man, I hate I've always I've always been a sword loser.

1162
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what that's what. That's why you're working

1163
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 3: hard though, Joe, Joe. We be playing basketball. Man, my

1164
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 3: brother beat me. I take the basketball and throw the

1165
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: ball in the hall.

1166
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: Pin. He tell grad he that boy threw the basketball

1167
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: in the hollack.

1168
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: Boy, hey man, that joy that Jr.

1169
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: Gonna beat me.

1170
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: We playing put back, uh the way you play put

1171
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: back on George football. So I can throw it, I

1172
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: can punt it. I can catch it. So if you

1173
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: throw it over my head, I gotta throw the ball,

1174
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 1: punt the ball and kick the ball for wherever it laying.

1175
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: If I catch I get to take five step forward. Man,

1176
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: I was winning, and I don't know man, that joking

1177
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: the best pridy.

1178
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 2: He must have had a punt. He about have putted

1179
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 2: that ball seventy yards. Man.

1180
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: Hey, I went straight to the house and ran to

1181
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: the house and got the knife and books. I don't

1182
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: care what he's saying. Something ray guy putting that ball?

1183
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,479
Speaker 1: He ain't put it. I played that ball? Why about

1184
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Branda won't be out?

1185
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: I couldn't. I couldn't take it.

1186
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: Boy, you can't when you ain't gonna win them all.

1187
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: You can't win all the time. Mm hmmm, Hey, but

1188
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: the losing make you work harder though. What Yeah, it

1189
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: had you right back in the lab. I'm talking about

1190
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: really trying to get someone. But the thing is, Joe

1191
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't understand. I just looked at him. That's my brother.

1192
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: I should be able to beat him. I didn't look

1193
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: that he was three years older, he was bigger, he

1194
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: was stronger. That ain't cross my mind because I'm doing

1195
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 1: everything he doing. He go to work in the fields,

1196
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: I go to working. Papa send him there to catch

1197
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: a haul. I go, I go catch. You know he

1198
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: could catch. I just have to hold him by one leg.

1199
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: I got it by one leg. He can hold him

1200
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: all by boat lying legs. So I think I'm doing

1201
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: what he doing. Why can't I beat this joker?

1202
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 2: Man? That thing drove me, man, that thing drove me

1203
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: so crazy.

1204
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1205
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: I was like, so I.

1206
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: Cooper, speak your head up, bro man. All the grades

1207
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: have had to go through what you're going through, all

1208
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: of them.

1209
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1210
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: Now a lot of them didn't win to the level.

1211
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, hell Burn didn't lose a single game. He

1212
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: lost one game that year. He lost the Magic in

1213
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: the finals in the NC tournament. That really that really

1214
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 1: put him onto that foot the march man, is that

1215
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: that's what put it on the map. The map that

1216
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: because guess what you had, you know in the seventies

1217
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: a couple of years earlier, had roots come out, and

1218
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: then you.

1219
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 2: Had yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, right, you already know

1220
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: where your legions were.

1221
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: If you was, if you was this, use with that, that,

1222
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: use with this, ye do wall round it and Cooper

1223
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: picked your head up. Bro, you got a promising future

1224
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 1: ahead of you. Bro O Joe Joe. There's a sense

1225
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: that Steve Kerr will return to coach the Warriors for

1226
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: one more season, which would be his last dance with

1227
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: the franchise per tem Carol Kawa Kami Joe, Well, I

1228
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: don't go ahead.

1229
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: I want to hear what you got to say about

1230
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 2: this With Joe. I think.

1231
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 3: Obviously, depending on the health of the players, I think

1232
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 3: he probably I don't know, he might even shot his

1233
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 3: own documentary Ojo making this his lab, you know what

1234
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean, And then they they may even be trying

1235
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 3: to make a big splash this summer too, you know

1236
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 3: what I mean. I think I think it's so many

1237
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 3: different ways that I can see the Warriors going at

1238
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: this for him to announce that it's he he definitely

1239
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 3: got some up his sleeve.

1240
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: What you got, I just like, unless there's some major moves, Joe.

1241
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: They not winning no championship with this team, I mean,

1242
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna need to.

1243
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: But what an assets do they have to give up?

1244
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 5: You can't less, you can't letts Steph.

1245
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 1: No, Steph ain't going nowhere. Steph ain't going nowhere. Man,

1246
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna you got you guts. You're gonna have to

1247
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: figure something out on.

1248
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 2: What right now?

1249
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 3: They ain't even in the play in no damn, like

1250
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: Moore said, playoffs playoffs, They but the hope that.

1251
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: Right? Steph?

1252
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 5: What what's wrong? Stepher?

1253
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: Paying? What did Steph hurt a hamstring? Again? Ain't it

1254
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: with a knee? Isn't he you know? Play?

1255
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: He ain't coming back. He's been out for a minute.

1256
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,479
Speaker 1: I think they wrapping it up. I think you're gonna

1257
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: come back next week.

1258
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what fall You might well just might

1259
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 4: just relax. You might well get relaxed and get healthy.

1260
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: Well they might get they might get the seven eight spot.

1261
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: Boy, you're gonna you gotta see O k C or

1262
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,680
Speaker 3: san Antonio advise you just neither one of them gone

1263
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 3: go into the not beating the Lakers.

1264
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 2: They're not beating the Nuggets.

1265
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: No, No, I just don't. I just don't see it.

1266
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: And I get it. A look, it was a great run, Steve.

1267
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: But if you're coming back, they think you're gonna go

1268
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: out on, you know, be like Phil Jackson, win the

1269
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: championship and then.

1270
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 3: Depp Uh huh they bringing in some trust me. They

1271
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 3: ain't coming back with just that team. They try to.

1272
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: Figu out what they're gonna give up, Joe, I don't know,

1273
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: the Golden Gate Bridge, a draft, what the hell?

1274
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 2: Because they do got they do got a lot of

1275
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: guys hurt. They got Joe Joe.

1276
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: Let's just say, for the sake, really, if you look

1277
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: at it, who did it, Jimmy Butler coming off in

1278
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: a c l other than Steph?

1279
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: What assets do?

1280
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: People really won't And that's good that you can lure

1281
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 1: say Okay, I'm gonna give you X, Y and Z,

1282
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 1: and you let me get Giannis or you let me

1283
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: get some other top flight player.

1284
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: And listen. I don't know, but I know one thing.

1285
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 3: They can't come back with the same with the same team,

1286
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 3: like you know, it's you know, we talk about the

1287
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,919
Speaker 3: Janni Stein, but I don't know what they had.

1288
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: A Milwaukee would be like, oh yeah, we'll take that.

1289
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, But.

1290
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: What about what about Braun? What about Braun going to

1291
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: Golden State? You gotta give him nothing, you gotta pay it.

1292
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 3: They still I can see I can see him as

1293
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: I can see him playing with Steph.

1294
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: But I don't know, man, the man building. Ain't he

1295
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 2: building a thirty million dollar house out there in l A. Yeah?

1296
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,040
Speaker 1: But I mean it seemed like everybody thinking that he

1297
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: going to Cleveland. Hey, you can go somewhere for a year,

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Speaker 1: and the two and and then and live happily ever after.

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Speaker 5: Hey, then he Bill went out there in Cleveland too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he still got his place in acron Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I thought he building there big.

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Speaker 2: Oh, but he's been had that one though.

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Speaker 4: Jo Okay, okay, okay, Yeah, you build something like that

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Speaker 4: and god, damn la boy, that's that that's home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, got that big. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He brought actually he brought a place and and tore

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Speaker 1: the house down, because that's what jay, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: you want something, I mean, you got to spend ten

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Speaker 1: twenty thirty million dollars and tear it down because basically

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Speaker 1: you just want.

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Speaker 2: The land, right, that's what you want.

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Speaker 5: You want to what you want there.

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Speaker 2: So that's what people doing. I mean.

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Speaker 1: And Brent, would you want to stay in Brentwood or

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Speaker 1: you know, you want to go to Malibu or stuff

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Speaker 1: you gotta you know, people got shacks that's worth you know,

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Speaker 1: somebody got might have two thousand square foot hops. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's gonna cost you twenty five thirty million dollars

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Speaker 1: to get them up off of it because they old

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Speaker 1: an acre two acres of laying.

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Speaker 2: Damn. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that's where they are with at But I don't

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Speaker 1: know I don't look and said, I mean, look. Golden

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Speaker 1: State had a great run. They won four championships and

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Speaker 1: six seasons. I believe they would have won another one

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Speaker 1: had Kevin durant Achilles not blow out Toronto. I don't

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Speaker 1: care what anybody says, Toronto not beating Golden State, that

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Speaker 1: they yea

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Speaker 5: Yeah,