1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Welcome to move the sticks at the 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Indiana. Bucket. It's nice to 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: be back here. I mean, it's always good to come 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: to in Apps for the combine because not only we 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: can chance to see all the prospects, but it's the conversations. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: It's the after hours conversations where we get a chance 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: to talk to executives and coaches and kind of fine 9 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: where the league is trending to me. I come away 10 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: with more intel and information just off those conversations, then 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: based off what I get in the STATEUM, I think 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: people that haven't been here before would be a little 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: bit surprised by what takes place here and how just 14 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: open it is. Everybody in the league is here. I 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: go to dinner last night with our with our buddy 16 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: Rhet the RPBU Theyrett Lewis and sitting at the table 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: right next to his Pacing and Naggy, so you a 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: chance to say hello to those guys. You just see 19 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: people from every team kind of floating in and out 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: of these restaurants and uh, the NFL. It is a small, 21 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: small circle and everybody's here. Yeah, everyone is here, and 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: everyone is willing to share. I think that's the misnoman 23 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: about the league. Like guys really share information. There's a 24 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: lot of open dialogue, especially this time of year because 25 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: you have franchise tags, you have trades being discussed, and 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: you have free agency that is also on the horizon. 27 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of conversations, a lot of 28 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: good conversation when the league business really begins to commence. 29 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: When we started in March, all right, we're gonna go 30 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: through and look at your new mock draft that came out, 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: some highlights from that. We're gonna highlight the defensive players 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: this year in the comby little preview there as well. 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: But before we get there, this is an opportunity for 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: each team have a general manager and head coach have 35 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: a press conference here. A lot of times you don't 36 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: get anything out of it. I jokingly put out a 37 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: little tweet about you know, I think it was a 38 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: movie Maverick, remember that one with Mel Gibson where you're 39 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: trying to keep the cards. Look close to the vest there, 40 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: don't show your cards. But there were a couple of 41 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: noteworthy items to come out of these interviews today and 42 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the first one we saw Nick Foles. The announcement was made, 43 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: nick Foles will be a free agent. They're not gonna 44 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: trade him there in Philadelphia. He's cut free. Uh, He's 45 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to go wherever he wants. Although 46 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: it seems like everything we hear this is all pointing 47 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: to one team in one direction and at South Yeah, 48 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Jacksonville sounds like Jacksonville. Other major players Jacksonville. Uh. When 49 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: you take those comments that you heard from the Eagles 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: and then you listen and see the transcript from David Carlville, 51 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: it seems like they have a leadership void. They need 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: a leader at the position more so than anything else. 53 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: They need someone that can kind of hold it all together, 54 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: put the pieces of the puzzles in place, and kind 55 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: of convey that winning pedigree. It sounds like Nick Foles 56 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: is the perfect fit for what they're lacking in jackson 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: And you look at the Filippo there as the offensive coordinator. 58 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: Somebody who's been around Nick Foles there in Philadelphia is 59 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: his quarterbacks coach have a relationship makes all the sense 60 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: in the world. Would not surprise me at all, if 61 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: that's what ends up happening with Foals. I did get 62 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of a chuckle though, because I know 63 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: some people were saying, you know, out of the goodness 64 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: of their heart, the Philadelphi Eagles decided, you know, as 65 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: a thank you note for Foals win the m d 66 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: P to let him be a free agent pick where 67 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: he wants. And there are some fine people of Philly. 68 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: I love all those guys that work there. I know 69 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: them all. Well, you're trying to tell them if they 70 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: were offered a first round pick that they would all 71 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: been unt of the goodness of their heart, they would 72 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,119 Speaker 1: have still will just let him be a free agent? 73 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think so. No, I don't think so. 74 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: It would be interesting to see what Nick Foles eventually 75 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: signed for and if it doesn't go his way in Jacksonville, 76 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: who else is out there looking for him? Who else 77 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: would take him on? How much would they pay him? Uh? 78 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: Nick Foles kind of took a chance, bet on himself 79 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: to hit the free agent market. We'll see if he's 80 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: able to kind of match what would have been available 81 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: if he had just kind of signed his deal in 82 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: the state. In another piece of quarterback news to come out. 83 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: Steve Kime, I don't know if you get a chance 84 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: to see this, Buck. I know you're doing TV interesting 85 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: because I saw the transcript. I did not get a 86 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: chance to see the video. And there is a difference 87 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: because I can say, I'm gonna give you the same 88 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: words two ways, okay, and you can interpret them differently. Okay. 89 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: So the question is Kyler Murray your quarterback? And if 90 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: I said, oh, sorry sorry, is Nick Thorty had slipped? 91 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: Is Josh Rosen your quarterback? And if I say Josh 92 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: Roads our quarterback for now? That's one thing. What if 93 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: I say Josh Rosen is our quarterback for now? Same words, different, 94 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: a little different meeting there, a little different many and 95 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: the way that they came off, it didn't come off 96 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: like they were all behind Josh Rosen. Now we've had 97 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: this conversation before we started the podcast. Maybe they called 98 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. They said, look, the next two or three months, 99 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: your mouth, your mouths, don't listen to anything that comes out. 100 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: We're just kind of positioning this. We're trying to auction 101 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: off the number one picks, so we're gonna drive up 102 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: some interest in any team they may like one of 103 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, we're really going to set the table to 104 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: make it seem like we may go quarterback. But if 105 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have that conversation, he ain't gonna be there there. Yeah, 106 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: because based on the way that it sounded, it sounds like, 107 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of have a girlfriend, but not really. 108 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: You know how hard it is to play quarterback in 109 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: this league as a young quarterback, and a young quarterback 110 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: who's not coming off a great year in comparison to 111 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: what we saw from Baker Mayfield and even we saw 112 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen have some successful around Lamar Jacksons in the postseason, 113 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: Sam Donald finished up strong. I think you would say 114 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: based off all the rookies during the year, probably put 115 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen at the back of that big five and 116 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: how they played last year, so you would think confidence 117 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: maybe not sky high coming off of a year. And look, 118 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: I didn't think it's his fault. They couldn't protect him. 119 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: They didn't have a lot going for them for them there, 120 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: they've changed the whole coaching staff. You do not mess 121 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: with the young quarterback psyche who's a little bit vulnerable 122 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: coming off an average rookie season, unless one of two things. 123 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: That conversation has taken place privately, and you let him 124 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: know what we're getting ready to do, or you're moving 125 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: on and you're gonna go ahead and take Kyler Murray 126 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: with the first pick, and Josh Rosen is no longer 127 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: going to be a member of the Arizona Cardinals. I 128 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: can't see any other outcome other than those two outcomes, 129 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and I think they have to make that decision, and 130 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: then a lot of that will be determined how Cayla 131 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: Murray works out here. I think if he puts up 132 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: a number we talked about putting them number, he posts 133 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: something in the four four or lower in the forty, 134 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: and he throws like we think he's going to throw. 135 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: If he elects to throw, I think he puts a 136 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on the Cordinals to make the right 137 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: decision because the problem that you have is we have 138 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: on record his coach, Steve Comes. If I had to 139 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: first pick of the draft, I take Kyler Murray. Okay, 140 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: well guess what you got it? Do you have the 141 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: first pick? Your system, all those other things. I'm not 142 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: saying these pet mahomes, but he can do some pet 143 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: mahomes like things in terms of creating, this is your chance. 144 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: And if I am Kingsbury and I have an opportunity 145 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: in the first year, I can the first year is 146 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: the honeymoon face, so I can really go out and 147 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: kind of set the vision from our program how I 148 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: wanted to go. If I am that big into Caler Murray, 149 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: pull the trigger, pull the trigger and make I make 150 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: I make Calu Murray my guy, and then we figure 151 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: out what to do with Josh frozen after that. To me, 152 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: so many times we get asked who which quarterback to 153 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: you're like better? Who? Look, it comes down to fit 154 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: for these teams. Some guys don't fit well in certain spaces. 155 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: They might fit better somewhere else, and they might have 156 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: more success somewhere else. I Cayler Murray's the best quarterback 157 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: personally for me, best quarterback in the draft. Yeah, it's 158 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: probably a little bit higher than I anticipated with him 159 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: being the first overall pick. But if you're looking for fit, 160 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: the two places where he makes the most sense and 161 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: fits Number one in Arizona obviously that the head coach 162 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: recruited you uh specific to run his offense. And the 163 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: other one is Jacksonville, who it sounds like might be 164 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: going in the Nick Foles direction. Those two teams I 165 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: would have even though I have him, you know, at 166 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: fourteen on my list, I wouldn't. I'd be okay with 167 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: it because I can say, you have a plan in place, 168 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: he fits, go win some ballgames, no problem with it, um. 169 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: But trying to find other teams that fits a little 170 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: more tricky. But I just I can't. I keep going, 171 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: keep coming back to the roads and think. You don't 172 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: do that. You don't say that about a young guy. 173 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: You just don't do that. You don't do that to him. 174 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: You definitely put him in the cross theres. You put 175 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him. And not only that, 176 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: now what you've created, You've created even more pressure on 177 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: him next year if you do retain him, because you 178 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: think they're not gonna be box scorre scout and see 179 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: what Kyler Murray's doing wherever he is. No other conversation 180 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: will always be Josh Rosen versus Kyler Murray. It was 181 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: bad enough you have to compete with the quarterbacks in 182 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: his own class. Now he has compete with Kyler Murray. 183 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: Because there's always going to be the what if factor, Well, 184 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: what if we moved on and Kyla Murray was our 185 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: quarterback as opposed to a lot of pressure on Josh 186 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: Rosen no matter how they sliced it, whether he's a 187 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: card or elsewhere. I think too you make a move. 188 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: You go hire Cliff Kingsbury year after you got fired 189 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: at Texas Tech is is the offensive coordinator at USC 190 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: and what some believe is a lane duck situation there 191 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: with what's transpired there, and you make him the head 192 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: coach of your NFL franchise. That is bold. That's more bold, 193 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: in my opinion than even moving on from from Rosen 194 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: and selecting Kyler Murray with the first pick. So don't 195 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: half step it. If you've got a plan, you're committed 196 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: to it, go go, go, don't settle, Go all in 197 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: like whatever whatever you're gonna go quarterback. If you love it, 198 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: go get it. Don't worry about all the other stuff. 199 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: Don't worry about the fallout. If Kylin Murray is the 200 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: guy that you think can take your offense to the 201 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: next level and really be the franchise quarterback, you gotta 202 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: go all in, go do it, and uh, let's let's 203 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: move on out of your mock draft. Mocks Draft two 204 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: point oh buck uh, it's out and looking through it, 205 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: I think we gotta start right here at the number 206 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: one pick with Arizona. Let's assume Josh Rosen is still 207 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 1: the quarterback. There a lot of folks, myself included, everybody's 208 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: kind of said, okay, when Nick bos is gonna be 209 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: the first pick, Not so fast, my friend, not so fast. 210 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: And and here's what I'm thinking. When I put Quinnin 211 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Williams at number one overall to the Cardinals, you already 212 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: have outside Russian and Chandler Jones. If you elect and 213 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: decide that you want to really upgrade your team, you 214 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: can resign Marcus Golden, so then you have to edge 215 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: Rushes and Golden and Jones. But if you get a 216 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: disruptive player inside and Williams, now you're beginning to cook 217 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: with gas, much like the l A. Rams had been 218 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: able to do by pressing you right up the gut. 219 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I like the way he plays, I like the size, 220 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: his strength is toughness, I like the motor and I 221 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: think as they're trying to reboot this thing, they need 222 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: someone that has a little attitude. I think he gives 223 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: them a little attitude on defense. Outside of the playmaking 224 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: ability that brings to the table. I have no problem 225 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: with it. I have vive Bosa is my top player. 226 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: Quentin Williams grated almost identically for me, he's my number 227 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: two player. Either one I think would be spectacular there. 228 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be big time pros and make a lot 229 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: of sense. So I'm okay with that. With Quentin Williams 230 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: number one, how about let's get the number five on 231 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the list, or we want to highlight anybody else here. No, 232 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: I was gonna go straight to five because I was interesting. 233 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: I think I think it's standard. Like Bosa goes to 234 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: San Francisco, Josh You and Jets, and then ever Shon 235 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: Gary at four ft five Devin White to the Tampa 236 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers and what I'm thinking with him, Todd Bowls 237 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: comes in and takes over. Todd Bowls needs someone on 238 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: their defense that can kind of ignite this team. This 239 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: team is unachieved on defense. And I think the things 240 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: that we hear from l s U on Devon and White. 241 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: We know he's a sideline the sideline playmak. We know 242 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: he can run and instincts and all that other stuff, 243 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 1: But it's the intangible qualities. He's the energizer, bunny. He 244 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: is the guy that's going to add some life to 245 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: that defense. And look, I think Brucenians gonna get the 246 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: offense right, the offense with score points and they'll do 247 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: those things defensively. They have to fix it, and I 248 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: just think they need a leader. They need a leader 249 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: on that unit. Much like you talked about Jamal Adams 250 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: and what he added, I think Devin White also adds that, 251 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: no doubt, I like that fit there, and we'll see 252 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: what Kwan Alexander is a free agent coming off of 253 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: an injury. Um, there's a need there at the position, 254 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: no doubt. Then at six, you've got the quarterbacks go 255 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: on six, seven, Haskins at six, Murray who we've talked about, 256 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: Jacksonville at seven, uh Farrell going to Detroit at eight, 257 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: um who. By the way, I think teams. The thing 258 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: that comes up with him more and more is that 259 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: you learn to appreciate him the more you watch him, 260 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: the more you appreciate it. When you first watch him, 261 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: you might say, Okay, I don't see an elite burst. 262 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: Um he's not, you know, super loose and fluid and 263 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: and you know Bendy coming off the edge. Just keep 264 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: watching game after game and you see somebody that's strong, powerful, productive, 265 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: run pass everything, You're like, Okay. I grew an appreciation 266 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: for him as we went through the process, and also 267 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: we talked about this in the evaluate suppressing when you're 268 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: picking in the top ten, top fifteen, mrs just want 269 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: to hit doubles. I just want to get a guy 270 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: that's gonna show up each and every week for sixteen weeks, 271 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna give me a solid day's effort and hopefully gives 272 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: me some spectacular production. But I just want to make 273 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: sure that the guy that I'm bringing in is gonna 274 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: be a positive contributor, and I think Farrell will do that. 275 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: I will say this with Dwayne Haskins at six. I 276 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: think it's interesting with Dave Gentleman's comments where you talked 277 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: about the Kansas City model, working will explain that. Explain 278 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: that the kN City model was when the kan City 279 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs rated up and drafted Pat my Homes. They had 280 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 1: Alex Smith into Alex Smith was a veteran quarterback. There 281 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: was no pressure to rush Pat Mahomes on the field. 282 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: They let the veteran play. It gave Pat Mahomes an 283 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to sit on the sideline and learn how to 284 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: be a professional. It gave him some some time to 285 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: adjust to the speed of the game. And long behold 286 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: the second year, when he's given the reins off, he 287 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: goes off, he goes wins the m v P. I 288 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: think that resonates with people, and I think the New 289 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: York Johnson going to try and foddle follow that model. 290 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: Eli Man is gonna be the quarterback eight. You're the 291 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: starting quarterback for nineteen. But just know this is the 292 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: Swanson this is it sounds like when Kurt Warner was 293 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: with the Giants when they selected Eli mannings same exact thing. 294 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: So look, Eli, you're gonna start it, and when the 295 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: young guys ready, he's gonna take over. Be it in 296 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or twenty he is going to be the 297 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: future face of the franchise. Now it's a matter of 298 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: trying to pick which guy would be right. I will 299 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: say this, and I'm not gonna spoil it because this 300 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: happened in a later my draft. The wild card on 301 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: this pick at number six, and the talent may not 302 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: suggested he would do it. But if they're going to 303 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: do the Kansas City model. Don't be surprised if Daniel 304 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Jones ends up being to pick Here's six and the 305 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: reason why, I'll say, if we're just doing six degrees 306 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: of separation, cutcliff connection there, the Cutcliff connection and all 307 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: of the other things. He goes and plays for David Cutcliffe, 308 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: who coached Eli Manning at Old Miss. The guy who 309 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: trains him, David Morris, was Eli Manning's backup quarterback. When 310 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: you hear David Getleman, just the way that he revers 311 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: Eli Manning, I think you would like to get someone 312 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: who was similar in terms of how he's acted, how 313 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: he conducts himself. The one thing that we can talk 314 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones, he's not a wild player in terms 315 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: of like how he plays and the way that he 316 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: will He's gonna test well here, he will test well here, 317 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna test well. It's not a huge arm. He's 318 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: gonna mere He's gonna hit all the checks when it 319 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: comes to the intangible qualities and those things. But because 320 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: he's quite similar to Eli, I think they can fall 321 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: in love because the one thing that they know they 322 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: never had any issues with Eli in New York that 323 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't rub people the wrong way. He's just fine. 324 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: He's just kind of goes unno, just and in New 325 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: York and that major market, maybe Daniel Jones ends up 326 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: being a better fit for them when he comes to 327 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: how they're doing a succession planning, because you also know, 328 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: if David cut Cluffe calls elonsa take care of my guy, 329 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna take care of Yeah. No, it would be 330 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: a it would be a smooth transition, I think relationally, 331 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: no question. I think they even share the same agent. 332 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: So something definitely to keep an eye on there with 333 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: the Giants, or let's keep it going here as we 334 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: go through. We've got Buffalo Jowan Taylor unfortunately not gonna 335 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: see him work out here, outstanding tackle prospect and the 336 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills need some help there. Uh Denver Drew Lock 337 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: that's a fun one. That is a fun one. And 338 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: even with Joe Flacco, even with Joe Flacco because I 339 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: think they are in the division with Kansas City and 340 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: they saw how it worked out well. I just believe 341 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: John always going to be smitten with Drew Lock in 342 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: his talent, size wise, athleticism, arm talent. He's going to say, 343 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: maybe we didn't do this right when we took past 344 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: him lynch Uh. We wanted him to get on the 345 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: field right away, and even though he played, maybe he 346 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: was the wrong guy with Drew Lock. Now you have 347 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl winner, you have someone in position that 348 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: there's no pressure would be he would not be pleased. 349 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean he would not be pleased, like we're just 350 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: gonna keep paying him. If we get paying for two years, 351 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: that's the thing. They still have additional years on the deal. 352 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: He could be the starter for maybe two years before 353 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: Drew Luck gets on the thing. I think it's a 354 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: situation that would work well for the Denver Broncos if 355 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: they view Drew Lock as a developmental prospect. All. I 356 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: don't have time to go through every single pick here, 357 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: so I want to highlight maybe a couple more Philadelphia 358 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: at taking a guy who was coached extremely well in 359 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: high school, Destin Lawrence. I think Destin Lawrence is is 360 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: a nice fit here because they got to beef up 361 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: the interior with all of the stuff that is going on. 362 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: Tim Joern again has a big number. Heloina may not 363 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: be there in dexth to Lawrence. I actually think you 364 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: have a guy that can be the one technique MENI 365 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: plays over their nose or the three technique Mini plays 366 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: over the guard. They need to get better into one 367 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: thing we know about the Eagles. They like to invest 368 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: in big people in the first round. Offense, offensive line, 369 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: defensive line, somewhere in there. I think it's gonna be 370 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: a meeting potatoes pick all right, last pick of the 371 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: first round. And again, you can go to NFL dot 372 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: com slash Bucky Brooks. You will find bucks mock draft 373 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: two point oh always interests see what everybody has the 374 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: Patriots doing, because obviously none of us have a clue 375 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. So who do you have them 376 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: taking their thirty two? Rocky said us, My dude, rock 377 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: you sin at the bottom of the first round, Temple corner. 378 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: And the only thing that I can I can think 379 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: about is as Super Bowl. They kept talking about Bill 380 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Belichick kept talking about what he likes in players. I 381 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: like smart, I like tough, I like blue collar type guys. 382 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: And so what Temple want. A tough guy that's gonna come, 383 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: is gonna know the role, is gonna play his part. 384 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: I think rock you Sink can do that. And also 385 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: the versatility. I think Rocky Sinning can play outside. Also 386 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: believe he can bump down and play in the nickel 387 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: as they're losing people on the outside. I think rock 388 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: You Sin would be a nice solid pig for the 389 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: New England pages at thirty two. That's a funnel on 390 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: there again. Go to NFL dot com slash Bucky Brooks 391 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: you can check out the rest of his mock draft. 392 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: Aren't you ready for a little defensive positional preview? Here 393 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: did the offense the other day, so you can go 394 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: check that out on the previous pod. As we go 395 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: through the positions offensively, what we're looking forward to seeing, 396 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: let's jump to the defensive side of the ball. Buck, 397 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: let's go inside defensive tackles. We just talked a little 398 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: bit about Dexter Lawrence, but give me a defensive tackle 399 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: you're looking forward to watch here? I want to watch 400 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: the top guy in ess Quinn and Williams. And the 401 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: reason I want to watch I know he's not going 402 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: to ben for us here, but I want to see 403 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: if he can kind of fall in line with being 404 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: that Aaron Donald type player, meaning a guy that is disruptive, 405 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: that is merges as the best player in football down 406 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: the line. I love how he played at Alabama. I 407 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: like the way that he was disruptive, the motor uh, 408 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: the fact that he really came on like game Buss 409 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: is his final season. I think his best football is 410 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: a head. I want to see some of the athleticism 411 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: on display on the turp. I could go through a 412 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: bunch of different names. Really looking forward to seeing at Oliver. 413 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: Who's gonna fun. He's gonna blow out the testing. We'll 414 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: see how big he is. I have a guess he's 415 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: probably gonna come around two hund eighty pounds and he 416 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: is gonna run four six flat, four six five something 417 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: out here. It's gonna be ridiculous. But I'm gonna go 418 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: to a small school guy. I'm gonna go Collin Saunders, 419 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: who we saw at the Race's Senior Bowl put on 420 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: a show there from Western Illinois. I Uh ended up 421 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: leaving a day because he had that a baby, and 422 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: then ended up coming back. He's doing a backflip in 423 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: the rain after practice one day. It's a fun story, 424 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: I know watching him. The first game I watched was 425 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: against Illinois. You always want to watch these lower level 426 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: schools against their one opponents. Even though Illinois Illinois UH dominant, 427 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: dominant player, but more tackle the tackle plugger. I didn't 428 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: know how much he was gonna bring from an upside 429 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: with pass rush and then lateral range. Get to the 430 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Buck, he's awesome in one on once he's 431 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: making play sideline to sideline. So he takes his film 432 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: which was good. Elevates that at the Senior Bowl. Now 433 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: can he continue that trend? Get out here at this 434 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: workout here in the combine, have a great workout. Now 435 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about Colin Saunders who maybe in the fall 436 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: fourth round, maybe talking about him in the second round. 437 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: If he can finish this thing up the recon he's 438 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: finished it up. We talked about checking off the boxes. 439 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: This is the next box. He checked it off. At 440 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. Was dominant doing the practice. We even 441 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: in the midst of having a baby, comes back, shows up, 442 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: plays well. So now you want to see the athleticism. 443 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: There's so many teams that are fascinated by the inside 444 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: rusher because you see everyone is looking for that guy. 445 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: So if he shows up and kind of dazzles a 446 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: little bit, I think he's gonna have an opportunity to 447 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: really really move up the board. All right, but let's 448 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: go to the edge rushers here. Give me an edge rusher. 449 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: You're looking forward to seeing, Well, I can't go to 450 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: my first row. Someone go in my second dress. My 451 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: second choice is gonna be Montest sweat Montest. What I 452 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: want to see if the athleticism matches up to what 453 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,959 Speaker 1: I saw at the Senior Bawl. I know he's been 454 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of an up and down player in 455 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: I liked the production on tape, but I want to 456 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: see him really move around and being I thought he 457 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: was by far one of the more dominant players at 458 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, but now at the athletic traits I 459 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: want to see because I think that's ultimately going to 460 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: determine how high he can be drafted. And I'm looking 461 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: right now in the middle of the first round with 462 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers sitting there needing an edge rusher. If 463 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: he dazzles, I think it really enhances his opportunity to 464 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: be a guy that comes up the board in the 465 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: first round. What if I told you there's a chance 466 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: he right, he might run the Moses Malone foe foe foe. 467 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: Come on, Montest wet running four weeks there's a chance 468 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: he can run in the four fours. You heard it here. First, 469 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: do not be surprised if Montes sweat at two hundred 470 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: and fifty whatever pounds he is, six ft six, goes 471 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: under four five, he's gonna run under four six. I'll 472 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: guarantee you that he might run in the fourth fourth 473 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: if he put his name in pen in the top ten, 474 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: absolutely on the top ten, because he has enough production 475 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: on tape. Then you saw. If he runs that, you 476 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: can forget about the top ten. All right. Next one 477 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: an edge dresser from me, Chakai Polite from Florida. I 478 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: want to see him. Really, I'm gonna put Burns in 479 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: there too, Burns from Florida State. Burns. Those two guys 480 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. There's look the burst in 481 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the athleticism, jumps off the tape. Both those guys Elite 482 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: get off. I imagine they're gonna test jump run all 483 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: that stuff outstanding. How much weight do they carry in? 484 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: Chakai Polite played early in his career to dropped down 485 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: to the two forties this year, So what does he 486 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: show up? Wait wise? Looking forward to that, Brian Burns 487 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: reports he played the two twenties, which was something I 488 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: had a tough time getting over because I see the 489 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: I see the length of the speed. But when he 490 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: got engaged him over by we use it in scouting phrase, 491 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: gotta win early. If he doesn't win off the snap, 492 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: he's not gonna win. So is he can he carry 493 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: to forty five? Maybe he shows up to forty and 494 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: the two forties, and then if he isn't the two forties, 495 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: can he still run and be as athletic as we 496 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: saw him in the two twenties. So those two guys 497 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: I'm keeping an eye on. No. I mean like, you 498 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: have to watch those guys because you need to have 499 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: someone who has a little size that can hold up 500 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: and said the edge, we're also being able to get 501 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: to the past. All right, let's go to linebacker. Are 502 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: you looking at I'm looking at mac Wilson. I'm looking 503 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: at Mack Wilson from Alabama because look, the jury still 504 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: undecided on where he kind of fits in the range 505 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: of the top fifty. When I look at him, the 506 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: more I watched, the less I like Buck. I know, 507 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: but early on I loved him, and then as you 508 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: got in this season, he kind of fell off. But 509 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: think about this class insideline. It's a you know what 510 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: I've dubbed this, you know what I've ubbed these linebackers, 511 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: the Devons and the drop off. You get Devin Bush, 512 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: you get uh, Devin White, What Devin White? Then Devin 513 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: Bush and then the drop off. Yeah. So so Mac Wilson, 514 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: by all accounts, should be the next one. How he 515 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: forms with determine whether he's a first round of second 516 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: round pick. But there are enough teams that need inside 517 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: lineback and cover that you want to see some stuff. 518 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: And he has ball production, he has turnovers. He's created 519 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: those guys. Look some of it is not always pretty, 520 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: but he can run around a little bit. If he 521 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: runs around well here, I think it will help his 522 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: chances of being a guy that is no later than 523 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: the day to go. That's a good I'm gonna go. 524 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: Terrell Hanks from New Mexico State. Very explosive. We saw 525 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: him at the senior boat. Delivered the biggest hit during 526 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: the week of practice down there. Watched him on tape. 527 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: I see that same explosiveness. I see him as a blitzer. 528 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: He's got range. Latterly, my question was it's a little 529 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: bit tight, Okay, what's the difference between him and Darius Leonard. 530 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard thought a little more fluid and coverage. So 531 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: let's look at him in the workout here. Maybe it's 532 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: something he's been working on and get a little looser, 533 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: a little more flexible, and we'll see him change direction 534 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: and go through some drills here. That's what I'm looking 535 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: forward to watching. Yeah, I mean he has to he 536 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: has to stand up. Look, you find these guys, and 537 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: every year, I think everyone is looking for the next 538 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: Darius Leonard. And because Darius Leonard, we knew about him 539 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: because he should have beat the Senior Bowl. But because 540 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: he came from the small school ranks, more teams are 541 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of casting their eyes on the guys that maybe 542 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: not get talked about as much on the national media stage. 543 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 1: But when Darius Lennar can go from a second round 544 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: pick to being an All Pro player, it kind of 545 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: makes people go back and say, who can I find 546 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: that can be the next guy? All right, let's just 547 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: go to the secondary as a whole one player corner 548 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: of safety. How are you looking forward to watch him? Man? 549 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: This is tough because I like your guy from Delaware 550 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: is certainly intriguing but I'm gonna go at corner and 551 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm going with the Vanderbilt kid, Joanna. Look, he is 552 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: theties for him now. The forty is huge for him 553 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: because if he runs a good forty, I mean he 554 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: has all the things sized, length, he can tackle, He 555 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: does a good job in coverage in man end zone. 556 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: He's kind of the perfect corner for a team that 557 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: likes to do a bunch of different things in the scheme. 558 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 1: It comes down to the forty time, it comes down 559 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: to the clock. Is he fast enough as a big corner. 560 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: That's a that's a good one. I'm gonna go Byron 561 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: Murphy from UTUB from Washington. He's so he's a great player. Now, 562 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: but here's the concern, right, he's a hundred and eighty 563 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: pounds and you worry might be a four or five 564 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: five guy. So last year we saw Denzel wards s 565 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: light frame, but rolled can fly. So it's tough to 566 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: be both. It's tough to be a little bit small 567 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: and not have the speed. That's a tough one. So 568 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a great player. He's a fun player 569 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: to watch and I'll be rooting for him when the 570 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: clock starts that he can get It doesn't have to 571 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: be four four five. If he can run four or 572 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: five two, just don't run four six flat. That's what 573 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We've talked about this. It doesn't matter because 574 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna focus on the electronic times in 575 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: the stands. In the stands, it's second. There's somebody that 576 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: likes him, and he's gonna come in on four four 577 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: nine on the watch, no matter if they have to 578 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: wait for him to run five yards before they start 579 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: the clock or whatever. He's coming in at four four 580 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: nine on the see him. They really likes him. The 581 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: thing about him is he's such a good play and 582 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: I think he can play anywhere in the back, in outside, inside, 583 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 1: He's tough. He can play man his own, gets his 584 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: hands on the all. He is the right kind of corner. 585 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: He's my favorite. I like him. Yeah, well he's a 586 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: good player. That's what I'm looking forward to to watch him. 587 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: There be fun, man, I cannot wait. I love the combine. 588 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: I know I've got some scouting buddies that hate it. 589 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: They hate it. Buck like being down here the whole 590 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: time their long days. They got their interviews, like being 591 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: able to eat like you just like being on the 592 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: company down. Did no breakfast today, just a little coffee. 593 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I've got big dinner tonight. I'm going to big dinner tonight. 594 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: Breakfast I get, I get a free a nice dinner 595 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: um by my guys from e A that Chuck hooked 596 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: me up with. This is all my mad and buddies. 597 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Ben Ben runs the show there. So Ben takes us 598 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,479 Speaker 1: out to a nice little Uh. I think we were 599 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: saying Almos tonight, little saying Almos, get a little steak. 600 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: Look at that cocktail stuff at sea. You're going big. 601 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm a petite fill at guy. It's not something I'm 602 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: proud of. It's just who I am. We did it yesterday, 603 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: we did saying Almos, myself, Mark, Erica and Eddie and Uh, 604 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: let's just say all of us got the ribby and 605 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: it was very good. Did you get the cocktail? Shrimp cocktail? Oh? Yeah, 606 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 1: have you done that for? Have you been here before? 607 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: I've had that. I've had the shrimp cocktail before with 608 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: the sauce. I actually ordered it years ago to my 609 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: apartment out in l A. Oh it's not so, I know, 610 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: I know, but no, it's great. Clear sinus is a 611 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: little bit huh, you feel better, you have a good 612 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: nice can say almost is a little overrated. I'll tell 613 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: you what they can't strike Let me just see if 614 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 1: this is accurate. This is a guess. Can't strikes me 615 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: as somebody that that he could he could take that 616 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: hot sauce that or the chip challenge and all that 617 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 1: spicy sting. I bet you it doesn't even face him. 618 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: Doesn't face you like spicy food? You probably you probably 619 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: could go to you probably go to faberg and get 620 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: the triple Xhale. It's like it's like is your name 621 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: and face all over l A. I can see I'm 622 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: just eating raw hallepenions. I don't think that fear and 623 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,719 Speaker 1: I do handle spicy food pretty. It doesn't do well 624 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: for my stomach though. But overall it wasn't nearly a 625 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: lot of people claiming it like he likes the challenge. 626 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: Probably a little more information like ever the challenges it 627 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: Permanti brothers. He probably is all over it. You probably 628 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: all over the place. I did a capacola and cheese 629 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: sandwich there or is Eddie calls it Gobba goal because 630 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: he's a Sopranos guy, and he claims he said, if 631 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: you say Capacola in New York. You won't get served Capacola. 632 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: You have to say Gobba goal to get served. At 633 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: least that's what he claims. Interesting, Do I have to 634 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: go to one of those places where you gotta knock 635 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,239 Speaker 1: three times and spin around and they take you all 636 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: the way through the kitchen down in the back to 637 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: get it? Maybe? Maybe? But yeah, we did say Almo's 638 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: last night, permantes for lunch, yesterday and today so far 639 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: back to back. Why not? I don't get permants out 640 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: in l A. I need to get it in while 641 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: I'm here. All right, Hey, let's get out of here. 642 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up. Buck's head a long day doing 643 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 1: a lot of TV today. I've had an easy day. 644 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: It's been great. All right, let's get out of here. 645 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I got some things I need to talk to Bucky 646 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: about off the year. I don't want either one of 647 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,479 Speaker 1: us get in trouble here. That's gonna do it for us. 648 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: I thank you guys so much for watching listening. Uh 649 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: to move the sticks. We've got you covered. Whatever happens 650 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: here at the combine, we will break it down for 651 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: you as we leave Indianapolis, but hopefully be tuning in 652 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: watching our coverage live on NFL Network as well as 653 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. Have all your recap shows, everything there 654 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: for you, so pay attention. We've got you covered, NFL Network, 655 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. We'll see you next time. 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