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I'm Michael Knowles astounded that here 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:44.240 in the twelfth month of the Year of Our Lord 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:48.279 twenty twenty one, we are still talking about January sixth, 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.359 even after so many of the media narratives about what 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:55.640 happened that day have fallen apart the idea that police 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.159 officers were murdered by these violent white supremacist people. So 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.880 many of these claims have been retracted by the mainstream media. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.080 And yet, Liz, we were just talking and you told 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.039 me that there is a major bombshell from the January 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.800 sixth committee. What's the bombshell? Michael, I think you might 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:16.840 be mistaking which Liz is propagating the idea that there 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.600 is a bombshell, because if it's Liz Cheney that you're 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.520 talking about, I think I speak for the American people here. 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.480 I presume I take that presumption to speak for the 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.120 American people here when I say, what exactly is this 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.039 bombshell that Liz Cheney is talking about? What exactly is 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.000 this smoking gun? Because what she did is she read 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.320 in the January sixth committee, she read a list of 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.760 text messages that Mark Meadows, who was at the time 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.800 of coorse, President Trump's chief of staff, text messages he 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.599 received on January sixth. These are These are texts from 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:48.000 Fox News personalities like Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram and 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:50.239 Brian kill Me. These are text messages from Don Junior, 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.960 obviously President Trump's son, all all saying condemning the violence, 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.279 saying the President should speak out and condemn this loudly 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:59.400 so it's not conflated with the peaceful protesters. Liz Cheney 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:03.200 portrayed this as if it was an indictment on those 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.839 sending the text messages, on the conservatives who were condemning 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:09.320 the violence. And the mainstream media, of course, just picked 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.320 up this narrative that this was some kind of bombshell revelation. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.080 These text messages were, and this clip, this video of 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.840 Liz Cheney went viral. Take a look at this. These 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:23.159 text messages leave no doubt the White House knew exactly 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:27.760 what was happening here at the Capitol. Members of Congress, 0:06:28.000 --> 0:06:31.359 the press, and others wrote to Mark Meadows as the 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:37.039 attack was under way. One text mister Meadows received said quote, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:42.640 we are under siege here at the Capitol. Another quote, 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:49.239 they have breached the capitol. In a third, mark, protesters 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:54.680 are literally storming the Capitol, breaking windows on doors, rushing in. 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:01.000 Is Trump going to say something? A fourth there's an 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:06.240 armed standoff at the House Chamber door. And another from 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:12.880 someone inside the capitol, we are all helpless. Dozens of texts, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:18.400 including from Trump administration officials, urged immediate action by the president. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:23.240 Quote Hodas has to come out firmly and tell the 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:28.600 protesters to dissipate. Someone is going to get killed. In 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:33.720 another mark, he needs to stop this now. A third 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:39.920 in all caps, tell them to go home. A force 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:48.160 and I quote Hodas needs to calm this ship down. Indeed, 0:07:49.040 --> 0:07:54.800 according to the records, multiple Fox News hosts new the 0:07:54.840 --> 0:08:00.160 president needed to act immediately. They texted mister Meadows and 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:06.560 he has turned over those texts. Quote Mark, the president 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:09.640 needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home. 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.960 This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy. 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:21.880 Laura Ingram wrote, please get him on TV, destroying everything 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:27.960 you have accomplished. Brian Kilmeade texted quote, can he make 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:33.120 a statement, ask people to leave the Capitol. Sean Hannity urged. 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:39.040 As the violence continued, one of the president's sons texted, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:44.360 mister Meadows quote, he's got to condemn this shit asap. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:50.200 The Capitol police tweet is not enough. Donald Trump Junior texted, 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:53.880 all right, Senator, am I missing something here? Is this 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.600 a smoke? Is this a smoking gun? Is this a bombshell? No? 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.360 Not not remotely. You had a bunch of folks saying 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.800 violence is bad and the violence should stop. That that 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.199 that should not be a smoking gun. I will say 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:12.120 you noted the confusion between Lizzes and Lizes. I think 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:15.440 in the future will simply refer to the greater Liz 0:09:15.559 --> 0:09:18.840 and the lesser Liz and and and I'm very pleased 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.760 the greater Liz as our co host. Well, thank you 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.199 for that compliment. Let me just pivot to Michael. Does 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:27.080 this not exonerate these folks that sent the text messages, 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:28.839 because these are people that have spent the last year 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.760 facing accusations of encouraging or being complicit with this violence, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.520 and yet they proved that even behind the scenes, they 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.040 were condemning this from moment one. Of course, I don't 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.160 really see what the story is you had all of 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.120 these prominent conservatives, some of whom we're at Fox News, 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.440 some of whom were lawyers, and they texted Mark Meadows, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.000 who's been on this program before, White s chief of staff, 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:50.160 and they said, hey, the President should address the country. 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.040 And then he addressed the country and he said all 0:09:52.040 --> 0:09:55.080 that stuff. And that does not exactly seem like a 0:09:55.280 --> 0:10:00.480 man bites dog story to me. But Senator, you know 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:04.040 you're you're there. You were there at the Capitol that day, 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:06.520 and you're at the Capitol around these people every single day. 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:10.080 What is the outcome of this January sixth commission? If 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.200 this is the best they've got, well, listen. I think 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.440 you have to distinguish from the substance of the issue 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:23.280 versus the politics of the issue the substance, and it's 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:25.880 very easy. You know. In some ways, this reminds me 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:31.040 of the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict, where everything was so polarized 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.559 that it was either one hundred percent one direction or 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:35.480 one hundred percent the other direction. And I think this 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.520 podcast was one of the few places that we tried 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.360 to say, Okay, let's assess what occurred, let's assess what 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.160 the facts are. If you look at January sixth, it's 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:45.120 a little bit the same way, where where if you 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:48.880 listen to democrats, if you listen to the corporate media, 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:54.320 it was Pearl Harbor, it was nine to eleven. It 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.520 was cats and dogs living together, ar mcgeddon. I mean, 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:02.199 it was the worst day in the history of the universe. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.040 On the other hand, there's some that defend January six 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:11.520 it's just another day that was perfectly fine. I view 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:13.400 it somewhere in the middle, which is I think where 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:20.840 reality lives. My view, straightforward violence is wrong. If you 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.040 commit an act of violence, you should be prosecuted. If 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.560 you violently assault a police officer, you should go to 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.720 jail for a very very long time. And I don't 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.559 care if you're left wing or right wing, or you 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.840 don't have any wings at all. If you violently assault 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.960 a cop, you're going to the slabber. That ought to 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:49.480 be non controversial, That ought to be really straightforward. What 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:51.840 we see with January six and the media right now 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:55.360 is hyperventilating. I had multiple reporters stopped me in the 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.400 Capitol to day and say we want you to reflect 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:03.480 on the anniversary of jail Anuary sixth, and and my response, 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:05.400 I said, you know what, when I hear from Texans, 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.920 I don't hear from Texans on that. What I hear 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:11.040 from Texans on is they're upset about inflation. They're upset 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.839 about the chaos at the open borders. They're upset about 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:18.000 illegal vaccine mandates. They're upset about the disaster and Afghanistan 0:12:18.080 --> 0:12:21.160 and weak for and policy. They're upset about all of 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.800 the things that are impacting their lives and their families. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:28.600 But that doesn't fit with the political narrative. And Democrats 0:12:28.960 --> 0:12:33.680 seized upon the aftermath of that day to try to 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.800 score political points. And so one of the ways they 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.559 score political points is in language. And listen, language matters 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:46.359 immensely in all forms of discourse, but especially political communication. 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:54.280 The word insurrection, what nonsense. Insurrection. This wasn't an army 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.920 that that like was trying to conquer America. I mean, 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.320 like insurrection is you know, we had an inc it 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:02.720 was called the Civil War. Six hundred thousand people died. 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:07.800 That was an insurrection, really bad one. This was it 0:13:07.840 --> 0:13:10.320 was a riot. It was and in fact, I would 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.920 say it was a terrorist attack. When you have a 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.840 mob that is attacking police officers, that's a terrorist attack. 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.360 But we came out of a year in which we 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:23.080 had an entire year of terrorist attacks all over the 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:26.840 country and cities all over the country. We had fires, 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.720 we had stores looted, we had police cars fire bond, 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:35.680 we had police officers murdered. And the Democrats spent the 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:42.960 entire year ignoring, whitewashing, covering it up, apologizing it, but 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:48.480 even worse, celebrating the violence, celebrating the terrorist attack. You know, 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.760 I remember the mayor of Seattle went on TV and said, oh, 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.920 it's the Summer of love, man, It's the summer of love. 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.200 And this is where leftist terrorists had declared remember the 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:01.160 Chaz Autonomous Zone. The whole thing was out of a 0:14:01.200 --> 0:14:05.960 bad South Park episode where they declared, we the warlords 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.520 are in charge. And you had women being raped, you 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.920 had assault, you had ongoing you want to talk about 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.880 an insurrection, These numb nuts were actually trying to do 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.480 the violent overthrow of the government, and because the Democrats 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:24.960 were such knitwits, they rolled over and let them succeed 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.720 an insurrection for weeks at a time, and yet that 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:32.560 became the Summer of Love. There is a real threat 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.440 to our political rights and our way of life that 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.520 was just handed down from the Supreme Court. So I 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.040 want to get to that, Liz the Greater Liz, you 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.560 will be getting back to us in the mailbag though. 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.120 That is correct, Yes, And if anybody wants to ask 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.000 a question, head on over to Verdict with Ted Cruz 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.760 dot com slash locals and submit those questions. We'll get 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.400 to the mailbag shortly. I want to go back to 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:56.840 January sixth for a minute, because there's another component that 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.800 for five months after January sixth, the United States Capital 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:07.560 was surrounded with fences, big giant, black, scary fences, chain 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.840 lick fences that at the top of them they had 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.600 razor wire, and it was frightening looking. It looked like Baghdad. 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:20.160 It looked like our capital was under siege. And in 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.040 front of the fences you had thousands of National Guardsmen. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.320 Now the National Guardsmen are there in uniform in camo 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:33.040 and they're holding machine guns with no magazines, they had 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:37.000 no bullets in them. And it was the most absurd 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:42.160 exercise of political theater. Why did that happen. It happened 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.440 because Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wanted to say that 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:50.040 every person in America who voted for Donald Trump, every Republican, 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:54.200 every conservative an, everyone who loves liberty were all terrorists, 0:15:54.760 --> 0:16:01.120 were all insurrectionists, were all violently attacking the capital. And 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.720 very quickly it became clear that's what was going on, 0:16:04.760 --> 0:16:06.680 and so the Red state governor said, all right, bring 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.440 our guardsmen home. We're not sending them up there to 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:14.120 be part of a set in a studio production. So 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.600 the only guys left were guardsmen from Blue states, and 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.760 they were from New York and New Jersey and Rhode Island. 0:16:21.080 --> 0:16:22.560 And I'd go talk with them. A number of them 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:24.080 would come in and meet with me in my office. 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.040 I take pictures with them, and I visit with them, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.400 and it was interesting, almost to a person, they recognized 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:36.440 this was ludicrous theater, that they were actors in a 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:40.680 democratic play that had a political purpose, and the machine 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:44.280 guns with no bullets really captured at all. The cherry 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:50.040 on top of the hypocrisy Sunday from Democrats and the 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:57.640 media is that Kamala Harris, our vice president, raised money 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:02.800 to bail out of jail violent rioters and terrorists who 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:08.480 had committed acts of violence. So she actively supported the violence. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.200 And it was very funny. One of the reporters today 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:15.160 was in the Capitol said said, well, well, okay, yes, 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:19.600 I understand that that that you know, there were protests elsewhere, 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:21.840 And I laughed and said protests, Oh, really, is that 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:25.760 what you call it? Protest? When they're firebombing police officers, 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.080 when when officer David Dorne is shot and murdered, that's 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.480 a protest. And the reporter like almost had to step 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.359 back and met, okay, yeah, I guess calling them protests. No, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:42.280 they were violent riots that democratic officials were complicit in 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:45.520 refused to send the police, refused to allow the police 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:51.119 to do their jobs, and and and effectively sponsored And 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.600 my view, as we ought to be consistent, whether you 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:57.440 agree with the ideology or not of a violent criminal, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.040 nobody has a right to commit an act of violence 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:04.399 on another American, of course, And where does the real 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:06.280 threat to our way of life in our system of 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.359 government come from the horn guy or the other eccentric 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.800 who tried to take Nancy Pelosi's lectern, or the people 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.919 who wield actual political power in the United States, Which 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:19.240 is why I'm quite concerned about this Supreme Court decision. 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:23.680 The Justice has rejected this petition of the New York 0:18:23.680 --> 0:18:26.960 healthcare workers who did not want to take the vaccine 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:28.720 for any number of reasons why they didn't want to 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.640 take the vaccine. The Court, as I understand it, came 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:35.120 down and said, nope, sorry, the mandate stands now. Senator, 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.439 you know, I don't know anything about the law. I 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.560 know a tiny little bit about the Constitution. What is 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:43.240 the deal with the court? Justice Courseus wrote a a 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:46.080 fourteen page descent, which which I commend to you. I've 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.480 read the whole thing. It's worth reading. It is exceptionally 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.840 well done. It details what happened, which is that that 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.360 New York state has a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.200 And it actually talks about how under Governor Andrew Cuomo, 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:05.000 it was fine. When Cuomo rolled out the mandate, he 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:09.720 said he was going to allow an exception for religious objections. 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.480 And so that was Cuomo's rule, which was fine. It 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:18.040 protected religious liberty, protected writes a conscience. And then you know, 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.159 Cuomo kind of got himself in trouble and and uh, 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.520 you know he's now with his younger brother in in 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:32.040 in the ranks of the unemployed, and then his successor, 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.920 Kathy Hochel or Hotchel or I'm not sure hown't pronounced 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:40.679 something like um. Anyway, she came in. Look, she was 0:19:40.760 --> 0:19:43.760 lieutenant governor. Nobody knew anything about her other than she 0:19:43.840 --> 0:19:47.879 was Cuomo's number two. Suddenly she's governor. And this woman 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:53.159 was a zealot. And so she changed the policy to 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:58.560 eliminate the exception for religious liberty. And you know, Justice 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.080 Corset writes about that, and it explains that she explained why, 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:06.280 and in her press conferences she said, quote, we left 0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.879 off the religious exception in our regulations intentionally, so it 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.280 had been there in the original version that they carved 0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:18.439 out religious exceptions. And she asked why. The governor answered 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:24.280 that there is quote no sanctioned religious exemption from any 0:20:24.520 --> 0:20:29.000 organized religion. And she goes on to say, quote everybody 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:32.720 from the Pope on down is encouraging people to get vaccinated. 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:37.600 Then to a different audience, she says, quote, how can 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.480 you believe that God would give a vaccine that would 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:44.520 cause you harm? That is not truth. Those are just 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:46.760 lies that are out there on social media. And then 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:53.520 even further, she specified, quote all of you, yes, I 0:20:53.640 --> 0:20:58.480 know you're vaccinated, you're the smart ones. But you know 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:04.080 there's people out there who aren't listening to God and 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:09.440 what God wants. You know who they are. So think 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:13.440 of the arrogance of an elected official who now claims 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:17.840 to speak for God. And if you don't share her view, 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:21.440 you're not listening to God and what God wants. Who 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.040 the hell are you, Cathy? What's your name? You know what? 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.320 Just because you are an elected of power, you don't 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:32.040 get to decide questions of faith for the people. And 0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.200 so she carved it out by the way that there 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.600 are exceptions for health issues. So if you have a 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:41.159 doctor who says, for some reason, the vaccine is a 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.680 health risk for you, there's an exception for that. There's 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.680 also an exception for people that were given the placebos 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.399 in tests of the vaccine. So they're two exceptions. But 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.600 they decided religious liberty doesn't count. And this was a 0:21:55.680 --> 0:22:00.720 lawsuit is brought by about twenty healthcare workers who had 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.240 been providing care to COVID peoples. These were the heroes 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:07.399 on the front lines that are not only about to 0:22:07.440 --> 0:22:12.520 get fired, but the New York governor also decided they 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:15.000 don't get unemployment benefits. So we're going to fire you, 0:22:15.280 --> 0:22:20.879 and you are categorically ineligible for unemployment because apparently you're 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:25.640 not listening to God. It's clearly vindictive, you know, going 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:28.680 after the unemployment. And she's presuming not only to speak 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:31.600 for God, but to speak for the Pope, who I 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:35.080 suppose himself speaks for God, but's and she's misrepresenting the 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.120 position by the way. It is true that many Catholic bishops, 0:22:38.119 --> 0:22:41.359 including the Pope, have encouraged people to get the vaccine 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.240 or said that it's permissible to get the vaccine. But 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:47.320 the way that they have said it is permissible is 0:22:47.359 --> 0:22:49.879 by saying that even though the vaccine involves a remote 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:53.240 cooperation with evil, the evil of the aborted fetal cells, 0:22:53.359 --> 0:22:55.200 or the evil of the abortion from which the fetal 0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:56.960 cells that were used in the development and production of 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:02.119 the vaccine came the which is not compelling anybody to 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:04.359 do that. The Church can't. The position of the Church 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.000 is that it cannot force you to cooperate with evil, 0:23:08.240 --> 0:23:11.440 no matter how remote. So this glib governor of New 0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.600 York is presuming not only to speak for God, which 0:23:14.840 --> 0:23:18.560 is outrageous enough, but to speak for other people who 0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.720 have their own religious views, and to misrepresent those views. 0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:26.879 It is so arrogant, But it is also so ignorant, 0:23:26.920 --> 0:23:31.680 and I suppose new in American jurisprudence well, and the 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:35.560 fact that she says there are no organized religions, big 0:23:35.600 --> 0:23:39.320 formal organized religion here, no religious liberty. It is not. 0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:42.000 You don't have to have a big organized religion to 0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.840 sign off on it. The Constitution protects your faith, and 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.520 you know it can be challenged on whether it's sincere. 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.520 But if there's no dispute with these planets that their 0:23:52.520 --> 0:23:55.840 faith is sincere, if they're acting according to their faith, 0:23:55.880 --> 0:23:58.560 and the Constitution protects it. Whether you're in a religion 0:23:58.920 --> 0:24:01.920 of a billion people or a religion of just a handful, 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:06.159 there are protections of religious liberty. And I got to 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:09.560 say it was disappointing. So you had three justices Thomas, 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:13.040 Alito and Gorsuch who would have stayed the mandate, in 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.920 other words, said you can't fire these healthcare workers until 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:20.080 the court decides whether to grant sirci or whether to 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:24.560 hear the case. Yeah, but the other supposed conservatives, John 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:28.680 Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett all voted no. 0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.800 If one of them had voted yes, they could have 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:33.760 granted cert if two of them had voted yes. They 0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:36.960 could have stayed the order. All three of them voted no, 0:24:37.600 --> 0:24:41.479 and you know, I got to say justice. Gorsuch wrote 0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.440 in the end a comparison that was really powerful, and 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:50.199 he talked about World War two. World War two, and 0:24:50.320 --> 0:24:52.160 in the time leading up to World War two, people 0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.159