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I'm Michael Knowles astounded that here 83 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: in the twelfth month of the Year of Our Lord 84 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, we are still talking about January sixth, 85 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: even after so many of the media narratives about what 86 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: happened that day have fallen apart the idea that police 87 00:04:55,640 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: officers were murdered by these violent white supremacist people. So 88 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: many of these claims have been retracted by the mainstream media. 89 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: And yet, Liz, we were just talking and you told 90 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: me that there is a major bombshell from the January 91 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: sixth committee. What's the bombshell? Michael, I think you might 92 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: be mistaking which Liz is propagating the idea that there 93 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: is a bombshell, because if it's Liz Cheney that you're 94 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: talking about, I think I speak for the American people here. 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: I presume I take that presumption to speak for the 96 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: American people here when I say, what exactly is this 97 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: bombshell that Liz Cheney is talking about? What exactly is 98 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: this smoking gun? Because what she did is she read 99 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: in the January sixth committee, she read a list of 100 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: text messages that Mark Meadows, who was at the time 101 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: of coorse, President Trump's chief of staff, text messages he 102 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: received on January sixth. These are These are texts from 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: Fox News personalities like Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram and 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: Brian kill Me. These are text messages from Don Junior, 105 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: obviously President Trump's son, all all saying condemning the violence, 106 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: saying the President should speak out and condemn this loudly 107 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: so it's not conflated with the peaceful protesters. Liz Cheney 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: portrayed this as if it was an indictment on those 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: sending the text messages, on the conservatives who were condemning 110 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: the violence. And the mainstream media, of course, just picked 111 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: up this narrative that this was some kind of bombshell revelation. 112 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: These text messages were, and this clip, this video of 113 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: Liz Cheney went viral. Take a look at this. These 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: text messages leave no doubt the White House knew exactly 115 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: what was happening here at the Capitol. Members of Congress, 116 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: the press, and others wrote to Mark Meadows as the 117 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: attack was under way. One text mister Meadows received said quote, 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: we are under siege here at the Capitol. Another quote, 119 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:49,239 Speaker 1: they have breached the capitol. In a third, mark, protesters 120 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: are literally storming the Capitol, breaking windows on doors, rushing in. 121 00:06:55,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: Is Trump going to say something? A fourth there's an 122 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: armed standoff at the House Chamber door. And another from 123 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: someone inside the capitol, we are all helpless. Dozens of texts, 124 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: including from Trump administration officials, urged immediate action by the president. 125 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: Quote Hodas has to come out firmly and tell the 126 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: protesters to dissipate. Someone is going to get killed. In 127 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: another mark, he needs to stop this now. A third 128 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: in all caps, tell them to go home. A force 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: and I quote Hodas needs to calm this ship down. Indeed, 130 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: according to the records, multiple Fox News hosts new the 131 00:07:54,840 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: president needed to act immediately. They texted mister Meadows and 132 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: he has turned over those texts. Quote Mark, the president 133 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: needs to tell people in the Capitol to go home. 134 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: This is hurting all of us. He is destroying his legacy. 135 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram wrote, please get him on TV, destroying everything 136 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: you have accomplished. Brian Kilmeade texted quote, can he make 137 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: a statement, ask people to leave the Capitol. Sean Hannity urged. 138 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: As the violence continued, one of the president's sons texted, 139 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: mister Meadows quote, he's got to condemn this shit asap. 140 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: The Capitol police tweet is not enough. Donald Trump Junior texted, 141 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: all right, Senator, am I missing something here? Is this 142 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: a smoke? Is this a smoking gun? Is this a bombshell? No? 143 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: Not not remotely. You had a bunch of folks saying 144 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: violence is bad and the violence should stop. That that 145 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: that should not be a smoking gun. I will say 146 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: you noted the confusion between Lizzes and Lizes. I think 147 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: in the future will simply refer to the greater Liz 148 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: and the lesser Liz and and and I'm very pleased 149 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: the greater Liz as our co host. Well, thank you 150 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: for that compliment. Let me just pivot to Michael. Does 151 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: this not exonerate these folks that sent the text messages, 152 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: because these are people that have spent the last year 153 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: facing accusations of encouraging or being complicit with this violence, 154 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: and yet they proved that even behind the scenes, they 155 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: were condemning this from moment one. Of course, I don't 156 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: really see what the story is you had all of 157 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: these prominent conservatives, some of whom we're at Fox News, 158 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: some of whom were lawyers, and they texted Mark Meadows, 159 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: who's been on this program before, White s chief of staff, 160 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: and they said, hey, the President should address the country. 161 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: And then he addressed the country and he said all 162 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. And that does not exactly seem like a 163 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: man bites dog story to me. But Senator, you know 164 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: you're you're there. You were there at the Capitol that day, 165 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: and you're at the Capitol around these people every single day. 166 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: What is the outcome of this January sixth commission? If 167 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: this is the best they've got, well, listen. I think 168 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: you have to distinguish from the substance of the issue 169 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: versus the politics of the issue the substance, and it's 170 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: very easy. You know. In some ways, this reminds me 171 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: of the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict, where everything was so polarized 172 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: that it was either one hundred percent one direction or 173 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: one hundred percent the other direction. And I think this 174 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: podcast was one of the few places that we tried 175 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, let's assess what occurred, let's assess what 176 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: the facts are. If you look at January sixth, it's 177 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: a little bit the same way, where where if you 178 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: listen to democrats, if you listen to the corporate media, 179 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: it was Pearl Harbor, it was nine to eleven. It 180 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: was cats and dogs living together, ar mcgeddon. I mean, 181 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: it was the worst day in the history of the universe. 182 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: On the other hand, there's some that defend January six 183 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: it's just another day that was perfectly fine. I view 184 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: it somewhere in the middle, which is I think where 185 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: reality lives. My view, straightforward violence is wrong. If you 186 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: commit an act of violence, you should be prosecuted. If 187 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: you violently assault a police officer, you should go to 188 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: jail for a very very long time. And I don't 189 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: care if you're left wing or right wing, or you 190 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: don't have any wings at all. If you violently assault 191 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: a cop, you're going to the slabber. That ought to 192 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: be non controversial, That ought to be really straightforward. What 193 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: we see with January six and the media right now 194 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: is hyperventilating. I had multiple reporters stopped me in the 195 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: Capitol to day and say we want you to reflect 196 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: on the anniversary of jail Anuary sixth, and and my response, 197 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: I said, you know what, when I hear from Texans, 198 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: I don't hear from Texans on that. What I hear 199 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: from Texans on is they're upset about inflation. They're upset 200 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: about the chaos at the open borders. They're upset about 201 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: illegal vaccine mandates. They're upset about the disaster and Afghanistan 202 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: and weak for and policy. They're upset about all of 203 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: the things that are impacting their lives and their families. 204 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: But that doesn't fit with the political narrative. And Democrats 205 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: seized upon the aftermath of that day to try to 206 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: score political points. And so one of the ways they 207 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: score political points is in language. And listen, language matters 208 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:46,359 Speaker 1: immensely in all forms of discourse, but especially political communication. 209 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: The word insurrection, what nonsense. Insurrection. This wasn't an army 210 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: that that like was trying to conquer America. I mean, 211 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: like insurrection is you know, we had an inc it 212 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: was called the Civil War. Six hundred thousand people died. 213 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: That was an insurrection, really bad one. This was it 214 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: was a riot. It was and in fact, I would 215 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: say it was a terrorist attack. When you have a 216 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: mob that is attacking police officers, that's a terrorist attack. 217 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: But we came out of a year in which we 218 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: had an entire year of terrorist attacks all over the 219 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: country and cities all over the country. We had fires, 220 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: we had stores looted, we had police cars fire bond, 221 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: we had police officers murdered. And the Democrats spent the 222 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: entire year ignoring, whitewashing, covering it up, apologizing it, but 223 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: even worse, celebrating the violence, celebrating the terrorist attack. You know, 224 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: I remember the mayor of Seattle went on TV and said, oh, 225 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: it's the Summer of love, man, It's the summer of love. 226 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: And this is where leftist terrorists had declared remember the 227 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Chaz Autonomous Zone. The whole thing was out of a 228 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: bad South Park episode where they declared, we the warlords 229 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: are in charge. And you had women being raped, you 230 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: had assault, you had ongoing you want to talk about 231 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: an insurrection, These numb nuts were actually trying to do 232 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: the violent overthrow of the government, and because the Democrats 233 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: were such knitwits, they rolled over and let them succeed 234 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: an insurrection for weeks at a time, and yet that 235 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: became the Summer of Love. There is a real threat 236 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: to our political rights and our way of life that 237 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: was just handed down from the Supreme Court. So I 238 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: want to get to that, Liz the Greater Liz, you 239 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: will be getting back to us in the mailbag though. 240 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: That is correct, Yes, And if anybody wants to ask 241 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: a question, head on over to Verdict with Ted Cruz 242 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: dot com slash locals and submit those questions. We'll get 243 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: to the mailbag shortly. I want to go back to 244 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: January sixth for a minute, because there's another component that 245 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: for five months after January sixth, the United States Capital 246 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: was surrounded with fences, big giant, black, scary fences, chain 247 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: lick fences that at the top of them they had 248 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: razor wire, and it was frightening looking. It looked like Baghdad. 249 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: It looked like our capital was under siege. And in 250 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: front of the fences you had thousands of National Guardsmen. 251 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: Now the National Guardsmen are there in uniform in camo 252 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: and they're holding machine guns with no magazines, they had 253 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: no bullets in them. And it was the most absurd 254 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: exercise of political theater. Why did that happen. It happened 255 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: because Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wanted to say that 256 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: every person in America who voted for Donald Trump, every Republican, 257 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: every conservative an, everyone who loves liberty were all terrorists, 258 00:15:54,760 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: were all insurrectionists, were all violently attacking the capital. And 259 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: very quickly it became clear that's what was going on, 260 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: and so the Red state governor said, all right, bring 261 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: our guardsmen home. We're not sending them up there to 262 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: be part of a set in a studio production. So 263 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: the only guys left were guardsmen from Blue states, and 264 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: they were from New York and New Jersey and Rhode Island. 265 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: And I'd go talk with them. A number of them 266 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: would come in and meet with me in my office. 267 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: I take pictures with them, and I visit with them, 268 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: and it was interesting, almost to a person, they recognized 269 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: this was ludicrous theater, that they were actors in a 270 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: democratic play that had a political purpose, and the machine 271 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: guns with no bullets really captured at all. The cherry 272 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: on top of the hypocrisy Sunday from Democrats and the 273 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: media is that Kamala Harris, our vice president, raised money 274 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: to bail out of jail violent rioters and terrorists who 275 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: had committed acts of violence. So she actively supported the violence. 276 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: And it was very funny. One of the reporters today 277 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: was in the Capitol said said, well, well, okay, yes, 278 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: I understand that that that you know, there were protests elsewhere, 279 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: And I laughed and said protests, Oh, really, is that 280 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: what you call it? Protest? When they're firebombing police officers, 281 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: when when officer David Dorne is shot and murdered, that's 282 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: a protest. And the reporter like almost had to step 283 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: back and met, okay, yeah, I guess calling them protests. No, 284 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: they were violent riots that democratic officials were complicit in 285 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: refused to send the police, refused to allow the police 286 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: to do their jobs, and and and effectively sponsored And 287 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: my view, as we ought to be consistent, whether you 288 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: agree with the ideology or not of a violent criminal, 289 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: nobody has a right to commit an act of violence 290 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: on another American, of course, And where does the real 291 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: threat to our way of life in our system of 292 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: government come from the horn guy or the other eccentric 293 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: who tried to take Nancy Pelosi's lectern, or the people 294 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: who wield actual political power in the United States, Which 295 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: is why I'm quite concerned about this Supreme Court decision. 296 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: The Justice has rejected this petition of the New York 297 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: healthcare workers who did not want to take the vaccine 298 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: for any number of reasons why they didn't want to 299 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: take the vaccine. The Court, as I understand it, came 300 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: down and said, nope, sorry, the mandate stands now. Senator, 301 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know anything about the law. I 302 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: know a tiny little bit about the Constitution. What is 303 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: the deal with the court? Justice Courseus wrote a a 304 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: fourteen page descent, which which I commend to you. I've 305 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: read the whole thing. It's worth reading. It is exceptionally 306 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: well done. It details what happened, which is that that 307 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: New York state has a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers. 308 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: And it actually talks about how under Governor Andrew Cuomo, 309 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: it was fine. When Cuomo rolled out the mandate, he 310 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: said he was going to allow an exception for religious objections. 311 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: And so that was Cuomo's rule, which was fine. It 312 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: protected religious liberty, protected writes a conscience. And then you know, 313 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: Cuomo kind of got himself in trouble and and uh, 314 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: you know he's now with his younger brother in in 315 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: in the ranks of the unemployed, and then his successor, 316 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: Kathy Hochel or Hotchel or I'm not sure hown't pronounced 317 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: something like um. Anyway, she came in. Look, she was 318 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: lieutenant governor. Nobody knew anything about her other than she 319 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: was Cuomo's number two. Suddenly she's governor. And this woman 320 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: was a zealot. And so she changed the policy to 321 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: eliminate the exception for religious liberty. And you know, Justice 322 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: Corset writes about that, and it explains that she explained why, 323 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: and in her press conferences she said, quote, we left 324 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: off the religious exception in our regulations intentionally, so it 325 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: had been there in the original version that they carved 326 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: out religious exceptions. And she asked why. The governor answered 327 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: that there is quote no sanctioned religious exemption from any 328 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: organized religion. And she goes on to say, quote everybody 329 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: from the Pope on down is encouraging people to get vaccinated. 330 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Then to a different audience, she says, quote, how can 331 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: you believe that God would give a vaccine that would 332 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: cause you harm? That is not truth. Those are just 333 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: lies that are out there on social media. And then 334 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: even further, she specified, quote all of you, yes, I 335 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: know you're vaccinated, you're the smart ones. But you know 336 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: there's people out there who aren't listening to God and 337 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: what God wants. You know who they are. So think 338 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: of the arrogance of an elected official who now claims 339 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: to speak for God. And if you don't share her view, 340 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: you're not listening to God and what God wants. Who 341 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: the hell are you, Cathy? What's your name? You know what? 342 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: Just because you are an elected of power, you don't 343 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: get to decide questions of faith for the people. And 344 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: so she carved it out by the way that there 345 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: are exceptions for health issues. So if you have a 346 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: doctor who says, for some reason, the vaccine is a 347 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: health risk for you, there's an exception for that. There's 348 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: also an exception for people that were given the placebos 349 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: in tests of the vaccine. So they're two exceptions. But 350 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: they decided religious liberty doesn't count. And this was a 351 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: lawsuit is brought by about twenty healthcare workers who had 352 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: been providing care to COVID peoples. These were the heroes 353 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: on the front lines that are not only about to 354 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: get fired, but the New York governor also decided they 355 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: don't get unemployment benefits. So we're going to fire you, 356 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: and you are categorically ineligible for unemployment because apparently you're 357 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: not listening to God. It's clearly vindictive, you know, going 358 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: after the unemployment. And she's presuming not only to speak 359 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: for God, but to speak for the Pope, who I 360 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: suppose himself speaks for God, but's and she's misrepresenting the 361 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 1: position by the way. It is true that many Catholic bishops, 362 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: including the Pope, have encouraged people to get the vaccine 363 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: or said that it's permissible to get the vaccine. But 364 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: the way that they have said it is permissible is 365 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: by saying that even though the vaccine involves a remote 366 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: cooperation with evil, the evil of the aborted fetal cells, 367 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: or the evil of the abortion from which the fetal 368 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: cells that were used in the development and production of 369 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: the vaccine came the which is not compelling anybody to 370 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: do that. The Church can't. The position of the Church 371 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: is that it cannot force you to cooperate with evil, 372 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: no matter how remote. So this glib governor of New 373 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: York is presuming not only to speak for God, which 374 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: is outrageous enough, but to speak for other people who 375 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: have their own religious views, and to misrepresent those views. 376 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: It is so arrogant, But it is also so ignorant, 377 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: and I suppose new in American jurisprudence well, and the 378 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: fact that she says there are no organized religions, big 379 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: formal organized religion here, no religious liberty. It is not. 380 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: You don't have to have a big organized religion to 381 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: sign off on it. The Constitution protects your faith, and 382 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: you know it can be challenged on whether it's sincere. 383 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: But if there's no dispute with these planets that their 384 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: faith is sincere, if they're acting according to their faith, 385 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: and the Constitution protects it. Whether you're in a religion 386 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: of a billion people or a religion of just a handful, 387 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: there are protections of religious liberty. And I got to 388 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: say it was disappointing. So you had three justices Thomas, 389 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: Alito and Gorsuch who would have stayed the mandate, in 390 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: other words, said you can't fire these healthcare workers until 391 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: the court decides whether to grant sirci or whether to 392 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: hear the case. Yeah, but the other supposed conservatives, John 393 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: Roberts and Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett all voted no. 394 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: If one of them had voted yes, they could have 395 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: granted cert if two of them had voted yes. They 396 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: could have stayed the order. All three of them voted no, 397 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,479 Speaker 1: and you know, I got to say justice. Gorsuch wrote 398 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: in the end a comparison that was really powerful, and 399 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: he talked about World War two. World War two, and 400 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: in the time leading up to World War two, people 401 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: were freaked out and they were concerned, and obviously it 402 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: was a major war, and local jurisdictions passed laws in 403 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: public schools requiring students to say the pledge of allegiance 404 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: to the flag. They wanted national unity because we were 405 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: heading into a war. And one public school in Minersville, Pennsylvania, 406 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: had that mandate. And there was a family, Lillian and 407 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: William Gobitis, who were Jehovah's witnesses and their their child 408 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: was in the schools. And Jehovah's witnesses believe as a 409 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 1: matter of faith that they should not pledge to anything 410 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: but God, and that includes a pledge of allegiance to 411 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: the flag. And so they had a genuine and heartfelt 412 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: religious objection to to their their child being forced to 413 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: pledge allegiance to the flag. They brought a lawsuit, went 414 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: all the way to the Supreme Court, and in nineteen 415 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: forty right at the dawn of World War two. The 416 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: Court rejected their claim and said, no, this is this 417 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: is an emergency, it's a crisis. You don't have a 418 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: religious liberty right, and so they throw them out. Now. 419 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 1: Three years later, ninety three, in another decision called Barnet, 420 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: Supreme Court reversed itself. It reversed itself and said we 421 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: were wrong, we were wrong, and this religious liberty right 422 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: it was a different Jehovah's witness who was bringing a 423 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: challenge to a similar mandate. And they reversed itself. And 424 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: here's what justice coursed its wrote that I think was 425 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: really powerful. He said, quote today our nation faces not 426 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: a world war, but a pandemic. Like wars, though pandemics 427 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: often produced demanding new social rules aimed at promoting collective interests, 428 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,959 Speaker 1: and with those rules can come fear and anger at 429 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: individuals unable to conform for religious reasons. If cases like 430 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: Gobitis bear any good, it is as their cautionary tale 431 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: they remind us that in the end, it is always 432 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 1: the failure to defend the Constitution's promises that leads to 433 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: this quart's greatest regrets. And that is a powerful, powerful 434 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: analogy that. I think it's disappointing that we didn't see 435 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 1: all nine justices say we're going to defend the religious 436 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: liberty rights of these doctors and nurses who were the 437 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: heroes of this pandemic, and now they're going to be 438 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: fired and denied unemployment for daring to stand for their 439 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 1: faith right. It does raise questions about where are the 440 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: real threats to liberty and our way of life and 441 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: our rights really come from. I think we should hear 442 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: from some of our wonderful viewers and listeners from a Verdict. 443 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: So we should bring on not Liz the Lesser, but 444 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: Liz de Greater with the mailbag. Liz, thank you, Michael. 445 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: We have a lot of good questions tonight. As always, 446 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: if you want to submit a question to ask to 447 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: Senator Cruz, to ask to Michael Knowles, or to ask 448 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: to me, you can do so at Verdict with Ted 449 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: Cruz dot com slash plus. If you are a subscriber 450 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: on Verdict Plus, well you get access to ask question 451 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: since that we'll be answered right here live on episodes 452 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: of Verdict. So, Senator I'll let's start with UM, Well, 453 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: an obvious fact here, this is a reality you were 454 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:13,159 Speaker 1: trending on Twitter this week because of Senator Bob Dole's 455 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: funeral was this week you attended. Of course, he was 456 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: a great man, a great conservative. That is not why 457 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: you were trending, though. You were trending because left wing 458 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: blue check marks on Twitter were angry because you were 459 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: not wearing a mask at this funeral, and they essentially, 460 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, these people were hysterical. They were essentially accusing 461 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 1: you of murder, of homicide because you didn't wear a 462 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: mask to protect others. They said against covidndew. Do you 463 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: how do you respond to this? Well? You know, it 464 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: was interesting how the whole thing spun out of control 465 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: on Twitter and online. I went to Bob Dole's funeral. 466 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know Bob personally. We didn't serve together. He 467 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: was obviously a national figure. I knew of him, but 468 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: we didn't We didn't know each other personally. But I 469 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: respected his service, and in particular his his heroic service 470 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: in World War Two, where where he's you know, he 471 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: really embodied the greatest generation, the heroism he lived his 472 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: whole life with with serious injuries that that that that 473 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: he suffered in World War Two, and were at time 474 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: when when the very last of the greatest generation are 475 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: passing from us, that there are only a handful that 476 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: are left. And so I wanted to go to honor 477 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: his his life and service and legacy. And I went 478 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: in their whole bunch of senators that went um but 479 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: I did not wear a mask. I wasn't the only 480 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: senator not wearing a mask. Roger Marshall, whose senator from Kansas, 481 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: as a medical doctor, he didn't wear a mask. Alphonse 482 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: Dematto from from New York state, former senator, he didn't 483 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: wear a mask. But most of the senators wore masks, 484 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: most of the all the Democrats wore masks, most of 485 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: the Republicans wore masks, and Twitter went nuts. H and 486 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: the corporate media then through gasoline on the fire. It 487 00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: culminated in in this past Sunday on Tapper Show on CNN, 488 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper was interviewing Amy Klobuchart, Democrat from Minnesota, and 489 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: Amy and I were sitting next to each other, and 490 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: she was on Tapper Show, and Tapper and I'm gonna paraphrase, 491 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: but he basically said, so, you were at Bob Dole's funeral, 492 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: and Ted Cruz was sitting next to you, and you're 493 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: a breast cancer survivor, and didn't Ted in danger your 494 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: life put your life in danger because he was next 495 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: to you without a mask. Now, Amy to her credit, 496 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: and I will give her credit. She didn't take the bait. 497 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: She actually took the high road. She didn't take a 498 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: shot at me. She didn't go as as Jake was 499 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: begging her to do and say, you know, yes, Ted 500 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: and endangered my life. But I will say a couple 501 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: of observations that were particularly ironic. Number one, Jake Tapper 502 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: asked this question sitting just a couple of feet from 503 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe Klobuchar, not wearing a mask. He didn't have a 504 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 1: mask on, she didn't have a mask on. They're facing 505 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: each other. Now, his premise is to be in the room, 506 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: to be next to Amy Klobuchar without a mask, you 507 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: are endangering her life. And they're both staring at each 508 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: other with no mask while making that point. It is 509 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: the absolute hypocrisy. We were talking about it on January six, 510 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about it on CNN. It is political theater 511 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: in kabuki theater. Let me tell you a second component, 512 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: which is how did I get to the funeral? Well, 513 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: I got to the funeral the way most of the 514 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: other senators got to the funeral, which is we all 515 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: loaded up into a bus that met in the capital 516 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: and we rode in the bus from the Capitol to 517 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: the funeral. Now, on the bus, you have a whole 518 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: bunch of current senators former senators on the bus. Almost 519 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: every single senator took their mask off. So on the bus, 520 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: we're sitting next to each other, we're all together, Democrats 521 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: and Republicans. Almost to a person, I'd say the senators 522 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: took their masks off on the bus, including most of 523 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: the Democrats. We're next to each other, chatting, and then 524 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: we step off the bus and suddenly the masks go on. 525 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: And it is because there are political There are TV 526 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: cameras there, and apparently a TV camera something in the 527 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: lens makes the virus more dangerous that when you're on 528 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: a bus and there are no cameras, everything's hunky dory. 529 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: But when you're when you're performing for theater, that's what 530 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: was going on there. And so look, I think it 531 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: real It revealed the utter, utter hypocrisy. And by the way, 532 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: that hypocrisy continues if you look at the Senate when 533 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: democratic senators get together in the capital today, most of 534 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: them take their masks off. It's only when the cameras 535 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: are there they're putting it on. So it it showed 536 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: the masks are an aspect of theater, just like the 537 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: razor wire and the National Guard with machine guns and 538 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: no bullets, or an element of political theater. And ridiculously, 539 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: CNN and other folks in the corporate media are enthusiastic 540 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: participants in the charade. And Michael very similar question to you. 541 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: Have you ever worn your mask over your nose? Almost never. 542 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: I actually I was on an airline a few weeks ago. 543 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say which airline. I don't want 544 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: to get them in trouble. But the stewardists came over. 545 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: The speaker admitted that they all hate the stupid masks 546 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: and they don't want to enforce it. One of the 547 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: stewardists had a mesh mask on. It was fully mesh. 548 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: My mind was on my chin for the entire flight. 549 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: But of course, for you to Senator Cruz's point, there 550 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: is no virtue signaling theatrical benefit to us putting on 551 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: the mask for the cameras or aut in public. If 552 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: we are conservatives or Republicans or sensible ordinary people. But 553 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: for Democrat ardent democrats and Democrat elected officials, they really 554 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: do because it has taken on this symbolism. It's almost 555 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 1: a religious symbolism, certainly a political symbolism. And so you 556 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: get to that case and one point, Senator, I'm actually 557 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: envious that you got to go to Bob Dole's funeral. 558 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: I loved Bob Dole. I was just a child. I 559 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: really liked the guy. I was a Republican, basically straight 560 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: out of the womb. And there was a great line 561 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: and here's farewell letter in which he said he looked 562 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: forward to seeing if heaven really looked a lot like Kansas, 563 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: and if he would still be able to vote in Chicago. 564 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: So even among the political theater, Dole was still cracking jokes, 565 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: even at the very end well. And in fact, his 566 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: line was if he would still be able to vote 567 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: in Chicago, like so many who have gone before me 568 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: have done, which and it was funny. The Democrats were 569 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: all nervous, Oh, dead people voting inst Chicago. We're not 570 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: allowed to laugh at that. The Republicans we were a 571 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: howling laughing. And I gotta say all right, Norm did 572 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: a fabulous Bob Dole. And after the ninety six election, 573 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: Dole went on SNL with Norm playing him, and and 574 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: you know, he blasts him for you know, and why 575 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: are you speaking in the third person? Bob Dole wouldn't 576 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: do that. Bob Dole would not be speaking in the 577 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: third person. So I have one Bob Dole anecdote, which 578 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine. Was an intern in 579 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: Dole's office in ninety one in the First Persian Gulf War. 580 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: And I guess the Iraq ambassador, foreign minister, some senior 581 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Iraqi official came by his office to meet with him, 582 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: and Dole apparently walked out into the hallway of the 583 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: Senate Office building, and you know, lots of people walking 584 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: up and down the hallway, and he says, there any 585 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: military men here, and and two young men step forward 586 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: and they go, yes, sir, we're both United States Marines. 587 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: And Dole goes, good, there's an Iraqi in my office. 588 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: He'll kick his ass. And that apparently is a true story. 589 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: That is magnet. They don't make them like that anymore. 590 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: All right, Senator, this is a little bit more serious 591 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: of a question. This is from Daniel read over at 592 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: Verdict Plus. He says, Senator, other than registering more voters 593 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: and electing more Conservatives in thirteen months, what steps can 594 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: you in Congress or us in the community take to 595 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 1: prevent wild left policies like Build back Broke or Corrupt 596 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 1: Politicians Act from being enacted. Well, we've got to keep 597 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: shining a light on how bad they are. We got 598 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: to make it clear to the American people. We've got 599 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: to mobilize and educate to be honest, this podcast tries 600 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: to do that. I mean a big purpose of this 601 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 1: pod it is to give the Verdict community the information, 602 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: the facts, the background, so that when you're talking with 603 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: your friends, when you're talking with your families and your 604 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: co workers, when you're posting on social media, you can 605 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: spread the word about how disastrous the Corrupt Politicians Act is. 606 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: How does astros the Build back Broke bill is? To 607 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: defeat them, We've got to get Democrats on the fence 608 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: like a Joe Mansion or a Kirsten Cinema, to continue 609 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: to vote no on Build back Broke. They are right now, 610 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: that could change any day now. And I think the 611 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: more we highlight the substance the policy, the more unpopular 612 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: it gets, the less likely it is that you'll get 613 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: all Democrats uniting like lemmings to jump off a cliff. 614 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: But but, but we'll see right now, the Democrats have 615 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,560 Speaker 1: all the levers of power. But but the most important 616 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: lever of power is the American people. And the more 617 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: we can inform and educate and mobilize the American people, 618 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: the more we have a chance at stopping the bad things, 619 00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: and also the more likely we are to reach take 620 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: the House and hopefully the Senate as well in twenty two. 621 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: And Michael, let me ask you about retaking the House 622 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: and Senate. Give us a prediction here. I mean, most 623 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: of the time, the first midterm election of a first 624 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: term of a sitting president, that president's party loses both 625 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: the House and Senate by a significant amount. What do 626 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: you think it's going to look like in twenty twenty two. Well, 627 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: I like to think that part of the reason I've 628 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: been able to keep my podcasts in my career in 629 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: political commentary is I don't make very many predictions. I 630 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: did make one prediction once. I had a bet with 631 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro over who would win in twenty sixteen, and 632 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 1: I won four hundred bucks off the guy. So I'm 633 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: batting a thousand basically on my predictions. And I look, 634 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the polls, then yes, the Republicans 635 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: are looking really great in twenty twenty two. Certainly we'll 636 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: see what happens in twenty twenty four. The one objection 637 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: I have heard is that if the Supreme Court over 638 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: rules ro versus Wade, that that will galvanize the Democrats 639 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 1: and they will suddenly be motivated to go out and 640 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 1: get to the polls. And that's why we all need to, 641 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: you know, not save all the babies and save the 642 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,479 Speaker 1: series reading the Constitution. But other polls do not back 643 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: that up, and so this should give a lot of 644 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: hope to conservatives here. Yes, many Democrats care about abortion, 645 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: but according to polls, a relatively small number of voters 646 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: of the Democrat or Republican party are actually motivated to 647 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: show up to the polls given a candidates stance on abortion. 648 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to be a big motivator. 649 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: And so then then you're looking at all of the 650 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: other issues, and on all of the other issues, the 651 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: Republicans are winning. So I think it is a safe 652 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: bet to say that, right now the Republicans are looking 653 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: at a very very good midterm election. I certainly hope. 654 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 1: So this this next question from Nancy. I'm excited to 655 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: hear both of your answers on this. Senator, I want 656 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: to go to you first. Nancy says Julian Assange, hero 657 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: villain or pawn um. I don't like people that reveal 658 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: information that endangers national security. And I am grateful for 659 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: highlighting abuses of government power, but doing so in ways 660 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 1: that put put our country's security at risk are not great, 661 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: and so I would rather have the abuses of power 662 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: highlighted in ways that don't endanger covert operatives, don't endanger 663 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: people who are actively fighting to protect our security. So 664 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,479 Speaker 1: somewhere in between is my answer for that. All right, 665 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 1: and Michael, what is your analysis? This, by the way, 666 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: is coming on the heels of Julian Assange is very 667 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,439 Speaker 1: likely to be extradited back to the US, so that's 668 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: why he's in the news again. Well, the reason this 669 00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: is a tricky question, as Senator Cruz has alluded to, 670 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: is because the corruption within the American intelligence community. If 671 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: the American intelligence community, at the highest levels of leadership 672 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: were not incredibly corrupt, then this would be an easy answer. 673 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: Who do you side with the United States government or 674 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: the guy who's publishing secrets of the American government. But 675 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: because of the intense corruption of the intelligence community and 676 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: more broadly, what we call the deep state, we've seen 677 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,839 Speaker 1: this play out time and time again. They tried to 678 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 1: subvert the twenty sixteen presidential election. They spied on Donald 679 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: Trump as a candidate, and then they tried to undermine 680 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: his whole presidency. Because of that, it's very difficult to 681 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: defend the IC, certainly the leadership of the intelligence community. 682 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: And what does this mean for Julian Assange. I don't know. 683 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Julian Assange, But in the 684 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,760 Speaker 1: political battle that we're talking here between this guy, mister Assange, 685 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: and the political leaders of the IC, it strikes me 686 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: that it's similar to the Iran Iraq war. I hope 687 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: they both lose well. And if he is in fact 688 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: extradited to the United States and there's a trial, we 689 00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: may get greater assessment about the extent to which the 690 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:07,799 Speaker 1: secrets he revealed genuinely endangered Americans. If they did, that's 691 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,080 Speaker 1: a real problem. We right now have just sort of 692 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 1: broad assertions about that and the facts and substance matter. Yep, 693 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: it's great points. So basically, to summarize the answer, the 694 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: very non vegue answers all of the above hero, villain 695 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: and pawn at this moment until we get more information. 696 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: If you want to submit a question to ask Senator Cruse, 697 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: Michael Noise, or me, please join us over on Verdict Plus. 698 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: It's Verdict with Ted Cruise dot com slash plus. If 699 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 1: you want your questions answered live on air. 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