WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Return of the Zack 0:00:02.080 --> 0:00:04.520 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:06.120 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:11.400 Cowboys. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:17.200 This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:18.880 Camp in Oxnard, Cali. 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:29.440 Straight Chat set, Kitty textdown, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.879 Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.040 It's time for a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:45.000 by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California, in 0:00:45.040 --> 0:00:47.760 the site of training Camp twenty twenty three. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:49.120 We've got half the. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:52.240 Crew here this week after having everybody here last week, 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.400 which is uh, it's it's unfortunate, but it's exciting. What's up, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:56.600 Nick Harris, I'm doing good. 0:00:57.040 --> 0:01:01.120 It's so lonely over here. It's over our people are gone, 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:02.480 but no, I'm excited. 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:04.400 It feels like the last week of camp there's not 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:07.559 a single radio road ten All of the cushy radio 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.960 stations have gone back to hide in their studios and 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.960 they've kind of just been just missing for the last 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:15.479 week and a half two weeks. And then you've got 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.480 the media. There's just select media that are kind of 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.440 hanging around. These are the real Cowboys. Reporters, right, this 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:22.560 is for the real grinders. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:23.840 This is for the real grinders. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.160 That's what it is. Speaking of a real grinder, Nate Newton. 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.000 I called him a couple of minutes ago and I said, hey, 0:01:28.440 --> 0:01:30.280 we only have two on the show today. Is there 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:32.280 any way you can make it. He's on his way. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.640 So we've got reinforcements coming, just like the Dallas Cowboys. 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.400 They do have a reinforcement coming. And that's probably the 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.160 top story about training camp. But we'll get to the 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:44.840 preseason game. We'll get to how I kind of let 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:48.280 Cowboys Nation talking Cowboys Nation down by not saying Zebras 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.600 or no cap or whatever it was on the broadcast. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:52.560 That's all on me. I didn't say any of them. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.880 I let Beam down, as he's letting me know back behind. Yeah, 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.040 I let everybody down in that regard. But I had 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.120 a lot of fun calling the game. We'll talk about 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.200 that in a moment. Talk about that in the second segment. 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.680 But first, Zach Martin is back on campus and it 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.840 feels like there should be a parade for the guys. 0:02:07.920 --> 0:02:10.359 He walks us in or bikes in or whatever ends 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:11.840 up happening. Yeah, Captain is here. 0:02:12.400 --> 0:02:15.040 I think it comes at a really a really important time. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.520 I know we talked about it on the Camping Out 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.560 podcast last night, but you had said early on in 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.040 this whole ordeal that I think he'll be back right 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.400 after the first preseason game, And sure enough, you were right. 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.160 He came in that news broke yesterday afternoon, and he 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:32.120 came in yesterday evening. It was funny because me and 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:34.919 Patrick No Si Walker, a former you know, trader of 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:35.280 the show. 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:37.400 By the way, he's. 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.919 Gonna be back on Thursday, so he will. 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:42.519 That's baking news for the entire world to know. 0:02:43.560 --> 0:02:45.880 But we were we were out sticking out front just 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:47.919 kind of waiting on him to walk in, you know, 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.519 just so just so we know when he walks in, 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:53.000 and Haley Sutton and our team photographer Kleena Williams, they 0:02:53.040 --> 0:02:53.760 walk up to us. 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.520 They had been, you know, somewhere else the whole day. 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.000 They're like, hey, did you'll see Zach And we were 0:02:57.280 --> 0:02:58.880 we were like, no, he hasn't walked in yet, and 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.600 it's like he's right over there, like how did we 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:01.480 miss him walking in? 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.880 So it was kind of a funny moment yesterday. But yeah, 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.320 he was. He was all smiles yesterday. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.839 He got the RAIS that he wanted, and it works 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.519 for both sides financially, because I think the problem that 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.639 the front office was running into was, Yeah, we really 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.840 want to give Zach what he wants and what he's earned, 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.120 but at the same time, we have to give extensions 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.240 to these guys like Michael Parson's, Ceedee Lamb, potentially Tony 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.040 Pollard down the line, Terrence Steele. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:25.040 I mean, the list goes on. 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:29.040 So you had to if you gave money to Zach 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.200 and an extension, then it had to take sacrifice to 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.880 those guys. But they were able to restructure it to 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:35.800 where it's not an extension. He just gets an eight 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.240 million dollar RAIS over the next two years. That doesn't 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:40.960 really affect those extension talks. Those guys still have the 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.920 same amount of money on the table, So it works 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.680 for both sides financially. But I think more important than anything, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:48.720 it gets Zach Martin back on the field at a 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:51.880 really important time here at training camp and before week one, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:54.280 because you know, in an offense where the running game 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.200 still needs to be established on behind Tony Pollard, you 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.040 need a guy like Zach Martin to help us. I 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:02.360 let's hate that run game at right guard. And it 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.360 gives you your best player on the offensive line, So 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:06.320 that's gonna help with a new offense overall. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.320 It gives you a leader, it gives you a presence, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.920 and it gives you just some added stability, which I 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:16.000 think all three things are something that Dallas needed up front. 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.000 I mean it's no secret. I mean this is a 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:20.560 young offensive line. This is an offensive line that needs 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:23.600 a guy like Zach Martin in the fold. And it's 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.359 been unfortunate to not see him out on the field. 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:28.240 We haven't really had the chance to talk about it 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.840 a lot, just because I mean, it is what it is. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.480 He's holding out and he's not here, and nothing really changed. 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.040 It didn't look like it was going to change. I'm 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.040 happy that it did, though, because now you've got a 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.800 chance to move forward. It feels like this team was 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.600 doing everything they could up to a certain point, because 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.559 up to that certain point, you don't have Zach Martin, 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.440 and if you don't have Zack Martin, it's hard to 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:50.640 really further your ball club. Now they can continue to 0:04:50.760 --> 0:04:54.200 push forward together, and that's what I'm excited about. He'll 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.600 probably see the limited reps he's been working out, he's 0:04:56.640 --> 0:05:00.280 been working with coach Merriweather back at a I'm back 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.479 in Dallas, and he's been active all the way through. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.800 But then now he's got a chance to get these 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.120 live reps in practice and he's going to continue to 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.559 push forward. So what do you expect from Zach Martin 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.320 this week? Whenever you get a chance to sit down 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.840 and finally watch him on the field, how do you 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:16.640 feel like he'll fair? 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.640 Yeah, it's probably going to be a ramp up, just 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:22.320 knowing how Mike McCarthy operates. And I don't want to 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.120 neglect the walk up right now with the great news, 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.160 So welcome to Nate Newton to the show. 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:27.640 Everybody. 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:30.400 Glad you guys invited me. 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:33.240 Man, Wow, well we're talking about the guy who has 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:34.880 started training camp for you, right. 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.960 Yes, sir begins a training camp has officially started today. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.839 Zach Martin is back and uh man, I am excited. 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:46.680 I am overjoyed. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:49.240 The question that Kyle had for me that I think 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.640 it would be a good question for you as well, 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.360 is what do you think he brings week one? Is 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:54.360 it more of a ramp up stage and getting him 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.720 into that mode, But also I think leadership off the 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:58.120 field is going to be a big part of this week. 0:05:58.160 --> 0:05:58.400 Correct. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.719 He's a glue. He's he's the glue. 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.000 He's the glue to our center Beyondish, he's the glue 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:08.600 to Terrence Steele of making our offensive line solid. What 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.080 he does and I'm gonna go a little bit deeper 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:13.840 if you'll give me a chance. What he does is 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.760 last week, me and you were talking about how the 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.920 young kid awesome gave up a sack where if Zack 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.120 Martin would have been in there, our quarterback could have 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.320 stepped up into the pocket. Because what it is, we 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.520 have a soft middle now and everybody's getting pushed back 0:06:29.600 --> 0:06:30.760 three to five yards. 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:31.880 That leaves our. 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:35.240 Quarterback not a lot of room to step up and 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.479 to maneuver inside the parket Zack Martin will cut half 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:41.600 of that down. He will allow our tackles to be 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.479 better so they can just run guys around the edge 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:46.839 and stay with them where it's not having. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.600 A two way go. That is what he does. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:52.120 He gives Beyondish a sense of confidence, you know, to 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.560 know that he'll step down there, secure that block while 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.440 he's looking out taking care of still on that right side. 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:00.679 This guy is the ultimate team player. 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.880 He's an ultimate team leader, and we need this guy 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:05.920 if we're going to be successful this year. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:07.400 Yeah, what do you think? 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.880 Yeah, it just allows more depth in that pocket. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:11.600 When you can have a guy that'll keep his guy 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:13.440 on the line of scrimmage, that just kind of opens 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:15.440 up the whole thing for whoever's that quarterback, whether it 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:17.320 be Will Greer, Dak Prescott. 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:18.440 Cooper Rush, or so on and so forth. 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.440 We probably won't see Zach Martin during the preseason, but 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.280 it's great that we have in week one. 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.080 Again, I'll mention it on the podcast last night. 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.240 It's so nice that this happened before week one rather 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.080 than week eight, just because they can get this new 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.240 offense going with everyone up front. They can get this 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:37.440 new running game going with everybody up upfront. So I 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.840 think this happened at the perfect time for everybody involved. 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:43.520 Maybe you know, maybe right at the buzzer for everybody involved, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:45.920 But nevertheless, I think it works for both sides financially, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:47.600 and it works for both sides on the field. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.720 Well, I mean, for as much as it does feel 0:07:49.760 --> 0:07:51.360 like it was right at the buzzer. I mean, look 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.840 at the dates. I mean, it's Tuesday, August fifteenth. The 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.280 first game is September tenth. I mean it's still almost 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.160 an entire month, five days short of a month of 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:04.760 getting Zack Martin back into the fold before that Week 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:05.440 one matchup. 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:07.600 The reason I say the reason I say at the 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.120 buzzer is just because if this spent, if this time 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.720 that was spent without Zach Martin was spent evaluating a 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.080 a potential replacement at right guard or be somebody that's 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.680 reliable to rotate in it right guard, I don't believe 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.400 either of those tasks were accomplished, and I think Zach 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.800 Martin needs to be here to help lead that room 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.960 a little bit, to find it at the answer to 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:31.680 either of those questions, or to just be that buffer 0:08:31.760 --> 0:08:32.800 until they can find that guy and. 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:33.160 Bring him in. 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:37.480 More more important, he needs to be on the field. Yeah, 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.320 because now we can start practice. And I'll give you example. 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.840 We have not had a pressure drill, and the pressure 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:51.240 can drill consists of blitzes by linebackers. It's a passing situation. 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:55.520 It is about twelve plays and every start of every 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.800 pressure drill, it starts out four blad plays for the 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.400 sack sack, sack, and that is because our offensive line 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:09.360 has no continuity. What this guy, Zach Martin brings brings 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:13.559 continuity number one by stopping his man up on the 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:16.880 offensive line, like you talked about earlier, giving our tackles 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.719 a sense of confidence to run these guys around. By 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:23.920 giving a hand to our center so he can stabilize hisself. 0:09:24.120 --> 0:09:26.800 And now our left new left guard, which is our 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.080 old left guard Smith can do his job. 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:31.800 So now it just stabilizes everything. 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:32.240 We need. 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.840 Consistency. You talked about that last night Kyle a lot 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.199 on Camping Out podcast. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.959 The consistency that he brings of being a guy that 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:43.680 plays up on the line of scrimmage or be able 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.120 to move people off the ball when it's a run situation. 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.040 It gives us creases. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.360 Now our running backs will be better and we'll see 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:56.360 a better team. He brings physical as well as mental consistency. 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.360 Do you think the reps without him in training camp 0:09:59.640 --> 0:10:05.160 have being I think good, just good, just good, sir. 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.000 That's now that he's back in the fold. Do you 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:10.800 think this is where we can see the benefit of 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:11.319 those reps. 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:11.560 Oh? 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.520 Yes, of not having him there, not being able to 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.079 rely on a guy like Zach Martin around you, and 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:18.880 then you take the step up and you're like, oh, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.240 now seventy is in there, and now I can rely 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:21.959 on a guy like that. 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:25.360 You know what's so funny? And now I'm not He 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:30.559 is not Magic Johnson the Lakers. The Lakers were a 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.839 good team without magic, and they probably could have went 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:36.240 into the playoffs without magic. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:40.559 With magic, now you see a world championship team. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:43.319 And I'm not saying this guy's gonna make us a 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:47.160 world championship team, but now I believe more than ever 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:51.480 that we have a shot at the NFC Championship. I 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.480 believe that because what he does, and I'll say it 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.920 a thousand times, is he just gives us consistency. He 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:00.520 gives us a solid wall up front. So when we 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.280 called him three step drops and five step drops, we 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.120 know it's gonna gonna happen. And more important than when 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.079 we call that ultimate seven step drop to sit back 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.720 and let Cooks get behind somebody, we know he can 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:15.360 stand tall, step up in the pocket and throw off 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.199 of that and you know, throw it how you do 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.199 the le jerk, So you know what I'm saying, and 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:20.400 he can really release. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:21.880 We practice that every morning, don't. 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:27.280 Getting after it? Yeah, he's thirty two, and I believe 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:30.400 he turns thirty three at some point this next or 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.520 I guess this season, at some point along the way 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.160 it is twenty five days or however long it is 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:38.760 until week one? Is that enough to ramp this guy 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:40.480 up and get him ready to go slot? I know, 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:42.920 I mean he's Zach Martin, and he is. He is 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:46.920 shown to this point that it feels like he's almost indestructible. Yes, 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.760 to a certain extent. But I mean, at some point 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.520 age does come into play for everybody. I mean, father 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.280 times undefeated in the world of sports. The I'm not 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.000 even saying it's a worry. I don't think it is 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.439 for me. I think he's gonna be fan past it. 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.560 But is there any sort of concern on just how 0:12:03.679 --> 0:12:05.800 quickly he's gonna have to ramp up without those first teams. 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:07.719 There was a question that Mike McCarthy got in a 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.839 press conference I believe it was last week, and it 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.360 was asked, whenever Zach gets here, you know, with this 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.440 new offensive system, is there gonna be a little bit 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.840 of a learning phase for him? Do we You're gonna 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.559 have to get him up to speed? And Mike was 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.240 very quick. He's like, no, everything we're doing he already 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.160 has in his bag. So I think, if anything, it 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.160 just brings another teacher into that room. I mean, you 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:30.760 have a guy who's been absorbing this information during many 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.120 camp and OTAs the hole that only started about a 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.440 month ago. So it's and it's not that like Zach 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.160 Martin hasn't been deep in that playbook since then. So 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:42.040 I think it helps across the board for just him 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:43.600 being here. I don't think there's gonna be any sort 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:44.200 of laps there. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:46.400 It is always a connect. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:50.080 Whenever a guy was holding out with us, either either 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.959 a player or coach system, it's always called, hey, this 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.959 is where we at. This is where we know you're 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.199 holding out, but hey, look at your playbook. This is 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:01.160 what we changed, this is this is effects you don't 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.600 worry about that, you know we can get past. It's 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.480 always a connect. So he's not he's not behind He's 0:13:07.559 --> 0:13:12.079 not behind it. And the thing that we need to 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:17.800 understand is there's there wasn't anyone on the street, there 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:22.959 wasn't anybody in the camp that was close. Because some 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:25.440 things you can wait on, and I'll give you example, 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.560 we can wait to see who can be the number 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.079 two running back, but you can't wait to see who's 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.480 gonna be your first team start at offensive guard, because 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.280 it's just it's too big of an impact. 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.559 It's a big impact, and you can feel the impact 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:42.120 from his return. 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We're talking. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.360 First game of the preseason, Cowboys fall to Jacksonville twenty eight, 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.880 twenty three at AT and T Stadium. It was a 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:04.600 great atmosphere, great crowd. H Ultimately, the Cowboys just fell 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.920 short and it comes from behind effort. They took the 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.159 lead in the third quarter, everything was working in their direction, 0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:13.000 and then a guy named Nathan Rourke had made a 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.520 couple extra plays, a couple of big plays on Dallas. 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:18.400 So definitely some room to grow a ton of positives 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:19.960 to take out of that first game. And I want 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.200 to get y'all y'all's impact on that, but yeah, give 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:24.880 us a text eight one seven two nine zero three 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:27.560 two nine to eight I see Bruno here from Staten Island, 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.320 New York, says, great show, guys, longtime Cowboys fan, and 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:33.359 he enjoys listening to us. And since I'm married a 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.280 girl from Staten Island, I'll have to uh, I have 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.520 to shout out Bruno. So that's a pretty sick name. 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:39.800 Sick name for Staten Island. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.280 All right, let's uh, let's take a look at the 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.800 Jacksonville matchup. What were your thoughts on on what you 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:46.640 saw in Arlington on Saturday. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:50.960 I want to start defensively, just because this defensive unit 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:53.600 that trotted out there to start the game got reps 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.400 against the first team and they got reps. 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:55.960 Against the second team. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:59.080 Most of those guys and two guys specifically really shined 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.000 and DeMont Clark and to Marvion Overshown. I think there's 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.000 a lot of concern about the linebacker depth on this team. 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:07.280 I think the more these guys get on the field, 0:18:07.320 --> 0:18:09.360 and the more that these guys get reps, I think 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.719 the more that those concerns should be quieted a little bit, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:15.679 just because these guys not only have youth with experience, 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.119 but they also have athleticism that flies them across the 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:22.960 field from sideline to sideline. We saw that on Saturday afternoon. 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.800 De Moon Clark specifically was all over the place. De 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.159 Marvion Overshown had a huge stop on third and one 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:30.000