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Speaker 3: This He's Talking Cowboys Training live from Dallas Cowboys Training

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Speaker 3: Camp in Oxnard, Cali.

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Speaker 4: Straight Chat set, Kitty textdown, and now your hosts Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 2: It's time for a Tuesday edition of Talking Cowboys, presented

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Speaker 2: by Black Rifle Coffee Company, live from Oxnard, California, in

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Speaker 2: the site of training Camp twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: We've got half the.

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Speaker 2: Crew here this week after having everybody here last week,

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Speaker 2: which is uh, it's it's unfortunate, but it's exciting. What's up,

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris, I'm doing good.

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Speaker 6: It's so lonely over here. It's over our people are gone,

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Speaker 6: but no, I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: It feels like the last week of camp there's not

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Speaker 2: a single radio road ten All of the cushy radio

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Speaker 2: stations have gone back to hide in their studios and

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Speaker 2: they've kind of just been just missing for the last

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Speaker 2: week and a half two weeks. And then you've got

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Speaker 2: the media. There's just select media that are kind of

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Speaker 2: hanging around. These are the real Cowboys. Reporters, right, this

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Speaker 2: is for the real grinders.

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Speaker 7: This is for the real grinders.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is. Speaking of a real grinder, Nate Newton.

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Speaker 2: I called him a couple of minutes ago and I said, hey,

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Speaker 2: we only have two on the show today. Is there

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Speaker 2: any way you can make it. He's on his way.

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Speaker 2: So we've got reinforcements coming, just like the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: They do have a reinforcement coming. And that's probably the

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Speaker 2: top story about training camp. But we'll get to the

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Speaker 2: preseason game. We'll get to how I kind of let

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Speaker 2: Cowboys Nation talking Cowboys Nation down by not saying Zebras

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Speaker 2: or no cap or whatever it was on the broadcast.

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Speaker 2: That's all on me. I didn't say any of them.

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Speaker 2: I let Beam down, as he's letting me know back behind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I let everybody down in that regard. But I had

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Speaker 2: a lot of fun calling the game. We'll talk about

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Speaker 2: that in a moment. Talk about that in the second segment.

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Speaker 2: But first, Zach Martin is back on campus and it

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Speaker 2: feels like there should be a parade for the guys.

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Speaker 2: He walks us in or bikes in or whatever ends

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Speaker 2: up happening. Yeah, Captain is here.

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Speaker 6: I think it comes at a really a really important time.

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Speaker 6: I know we talked about it on the Camping Out

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Speaker 6: podcast last night, but you had said early on in

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Speaker 6: this whole ordeal that I think he'll be back right

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Speaker 6: after the first preseason game, And sure enough, you were right.

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Speaker 6: He came in that news broke yesterday afternoon, and he

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Speaker 6: came in yesterday evening. It was funny because me and

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Speaker 6: Patrick No Si Walker, a former you know, trader of

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Speaker 6: the show.

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Speaker 5: By the way, he's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be back on Thursday, so he will.

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Speaker 7: That's baking news for the entire world to know.

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Speaker 6: But we were we were out sticking out front just

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Speaker 6: and Haley Sutton and our team photographer Kleena Williams, they

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Speaker 7: They had been, you know, somewhere else the whole day.

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Speaker 6: They're like, hey, did you'll see Zach And we were

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Speaker 6: we were like, no, he hasn't walked in yet, and

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Speaker 6: it's like he's right over there, like how did we

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Speaker 7: So it was kind of a funny moment yesterday. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: he was. He was all smiles yesterday.

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Speaker 6: He got the RAIS that he wanted, and it works

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Speaker 6: for both sides financially, because I think the problem that

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Speaker 6: the front office was running into was, Yeah, we really

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Speaker 6: want to give Zach what he wants and what he's earned,

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Speaker 6: but at the same time, we have to give extensions

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Speaker 6: So you had to if you gave money to Zach

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Speaker 6: million dollar RAIS over the next two years. That doesn't

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Speaker 6: really affect those extension talks. Those guys still have the

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Speaker 6: same amount of money on the table, So it works

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Speaker 6: for both sides financially. But I think more important than anything,

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Speaker 6: it gets Zach Martin back on the field at a

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Speaker 6: let's hate that run game at right guard. And it

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Speaker 6: that's gonna help with a new offense overall.

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Speaker 2: It gives you a leader, it gives you a presence,

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Speaker 2: and it gives you just some added stability, which I

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Speaker 2: think all three things are something that Dallas needed up front.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's no secret. I mean this is a

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Speaker 2: been unfortunate to not see him out on the field.

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Speaker 2: We haven't really had the chance to talk about it

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Speaker 2: He's holding out and he's not here, and nothing really changed.

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Speaker 2: It didn't look like it was going to change. I'm

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Speaker 2: happy that it did, though, because now you've got a

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Speaker 2: and if you don't have Zack Martin, it's hard to

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Speaker 2: really further your ball club. Now they can continue to

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Speaker 2: push forward together, and that's what I'm excited about. He'll

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Speaker 2: probably see the limited reps he's been working out, he's

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Speaker 2: But then now he's got a chance to get these

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Speaker 2: push forward. So what do you expect from Zach Martin

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's probably going to be a ramp up, just

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Speaker 6: knowing how Mike McCarthy operates. And I don't want to

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Speaker 6: neglect the walk up right now with the great news,

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Speaker 6: So welcome to Nate Newton to the show.

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Speaker 2: Everybody.

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Speaker 5: Glad you guys invited me.

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Speaker 6: Man, Wow, well we're talking about the guy who has

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Speaker 6: started training camp for you, right.

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Speaker 8: Yes, sir begins a training camp has officially started today.

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Speaker 8: Zach Martin is back and uh man, I am excited.

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Speaker 8: I am overjoyed.

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Speaker 6: The question that Kyle had for me that I think

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Speaker 6: is what do you think he brings week one? Is

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Speaker 6: it more of a ramp up stage and getting him

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Speaker 6: field is going to be a big part of this week.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 5: He's a glue. He's he's the glue.

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Speaker 8: He's the glue to our center Beyondish, he's the glue

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Speaker 8: to Terrence Steele of making our offensive line solid. What

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Speaker 8: he does and I'm gonna go a little bit deeper

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Speaker 8: if you'll give me a chance. What he does is

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Speaker 8: last week, me and you were talking about how the

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Speaker 8: young kid awesome gave up a sack where if Zack

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Speaker 5: That leaves our.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback not a lot of room to step up and

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Speaker 8: to maneuver inside the parket Zack Martin will cut half

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Speaker 8: of that down. He will allow our tackles to be

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Speaker 5: A two way go. That is what he does.

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Speaker 8: He gives Beyondish a sense of confidence, you know, to

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Speaker 8: know that he'll step down there, secure that block while

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Speaker 8: he's looking out taking care of still on that right side.

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Speaker 5: This guy is the ultimate team player.

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Speaker 8: He's an ultimate team leader, and we need this guy

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Speaker 8: if we're going to be successful this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you think?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it just allows more depth in that pocket.

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Speaker 6: When you can have a guy that'll keep his guy

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Speaker 6: We probably won't see Zach Martin during the preseason, but

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Speaker 6: it's great that we have in week one.

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Speaker 7: Again, I'll mention it on the podcast last night.

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Speaker 6: It's so nice that this happened before week one rather

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Speaker 6: than week eight, just because they can get this new

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Speaker 6: think this happened at the perfect time for everybody involved.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you know, maybe right at the buzzer for everybody involved,

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Speaker 6: But nevertheless, I think it works for both sides financially,

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, for as much as it does feel

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Speaker 2: like it was right at the buzzer. I mean, look

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Speaker 6: The reason I say the reason I say at the

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Speaker 6: that was spent without Zach Martin was spent evaluating a

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Speaker 6: a potential replacement at right guard or be somebody that's

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Speaker 6: either of those tasks were accomplished, and I think Zach

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Speaker 6: a little bit, to find it at the answer to

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Speaker 7: Bring him in.

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Speaker 8: More more important, he needs to be on the field. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: because now we can start practice. And I'll give you example.

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Speaker 8: We have not had a pressure drill, and the pressure

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Speaker 8: It is about twelve plays and every start of every

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Speaker 8: has no continuity. What this guy, Zach Martin brings brings

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Speaker 8: continuity number one by stopping his man up on the

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Speaker 8: offensive line, like you talked about earlier, giving our tackles

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Speaker 8: And now our left new left guard, which is our

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Speaker 5: So now it just stabilizes everything.

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Speaker 9: We need.

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Speaker 5: Consistency. You talked about that last night Kyle a lot

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Speaker 8: The consistency that he brings of being a guy that

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Speaker 5: It gives us creases.

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Speaker 8: Now our running backs will be better and we'll see

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Speaker 7: We practice that every morning, don't.

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Speaker 2: First game of the preseason, Cowboys fall to Jacksonville twenty eight,

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Speaker 6: I want to start defensively, just because this defensive unit

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Speaker 8: They come downhill, and when they don't make their play,

438
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Speaker 8: they're still in the right gap. They're in the right place.

439
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Speaker 8: And that forces you to other guys, and so I'm

440
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Speaker 8: with you. The defense to me has no has no

441
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Speaker 8: no holes.

442
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Speaker 5: Offense.

443
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Speaker 8: That's just you know, it's a it's a different story,

444
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Speaker 8: which we talked about in the first segment, you know.

445
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Speaker 6: So yeah, and I think the I think the stronger

446
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Speaker 6: point with the defense that we've we've come to get

447
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Speaker 6: accustomed with over the course of the last I guess

448
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 6: ten to twelve games that they've played is the fact

449
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Speaker 6: that all eleven guys do their job.

450
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Speaker 7: And that was evident in a preseason game.

451
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Speaker 6: So I think that's that's huge towards the potential of

452
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Speaker 6: this defense this year because when everybody's on the same page,

453
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Speaker 6: everybody's doing their job, then whenever that second level has

454
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Speaker 6: to fill gaps, that's all they gotta do.

455
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Speaker 7: They just got to do their job.

456
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Speaker 6: They don't have to step back and coverage because a

457
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Speaker 6: nickel missed their assignment. They don't have to, you know,

458
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,879
Speaker 6: fill a gap that they're not supposed to because a

459
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Speaker 6: defensive lineman's in the wrong play.

460
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Speaker 7: So it's gonna be fun.

461
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Speaker 6: This defense is gonna be great, and I think we

462
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Speaker 6: could see that even in the preseason with a lot

463
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Speaker 6: of the starters that were already out.

464
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Speaker 2: I asked Dan Quinn on Thursday last week, got a

465
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Speaker 2: chance to sit down with him and kind of prepare

466
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Speaker 2: some content for the Seattle game that's coming up. And

467
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Speaker 2: I asked him the question. I was like, who who

468
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Speaker 2: has been the biggest not surprised, but who's been the

469
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Speaker 2: best rookie who's been one of the rookie standouts on

470
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Speaker 2: your unit? And it hit the first name and it

471
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Speaker 2: was no hesitation. He said, de over shown. He really

472
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Speaker 2: likes what he've seen from De Marvian Overshown, And I

473
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Speaker 2: said rookie specifically, so keep that in mind. I mean,

474
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Speaker 2: there's a couple guys there. He also brought up Eric

475
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Speaker 2: Scott Junior a couple seconds later, just talking about what

476
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Speaker 2: he's done and the defense and knowing his assignments, but

477
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Speaker 2: the fact that Overshown is doing what he can. When

478
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Speaker 2: he was drafted, everybody looked at each other and said,

479
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Speaker 2: that's a dan Quinn guy. That was a long rangeye,

480
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: has some safety background, has some position versatility. That's a

481
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Speaker 2: dan Quinn guy. And he can put him anywhere and

482
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Speaker 2: play him anywhere and just hope that an offense doesn't

483
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Speaker 2: know what he's doing. And that's a pretty good hope.

484
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Speaker 2: So based off of what you've seen from these linebackers,

485
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Speaker 2: it's almost the opposite of what happened with the offensive line.

486
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Speaker 2: You came into camp saying offensive line depth and linebacker death,

487
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Speaker 2: you need some young guys to step up in both regards.

488
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Speaker 2: I could argue right now that offensive line hasn't had

489
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Speaker 2: a step up, hasn't had a show out in terms

490
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Speaker 2: of the depth, but the linebackers certainly have with both

491
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Speaker 2: them on Clark, Tomarvin, Overshrow, and I thought Malik Jefferson

492
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Speaker 2: prior to the injury on Saturday, was having a fantastic

493
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Speaker 2: camp too. So I think the linebacker depth has stepped

494
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Speaker 2: up in a way that the offensive line depth hasn't.

495
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Speaker 6: I'll say this about the offensive line depth. There are

496
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Speaker 6: some guys that have a surprised me during camp and

497
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Speaker 6: be have taken the next step and I but I

498
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 6: just don't feel like anybody is really taking that step

499
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Speaker 6: to be the sixth guy, to be that guy who

500
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Speaker 6: can be relied upon the great ways down. You know,

501
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Speaker 6: you mentioned TJ. Bass, You mentioned Austin Richards. I think

502
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Speaker 6: he had a really strong outing on Saturday afternoon. Brock

503
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Speaker 6: Hoffman is another guy that had a really strong outing

504
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Speaker 6: on Saturday afternoon as the center got a lot of

505
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Speaker 6: reps at center which was interesting to see as a

506
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Speaker 6: you know, a potential interior depth guy. But I just

507
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Speaker 6: need to see one or even two of those guys

508
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Speaker 6: take that next step and be the sixth to sixth

509
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Speaker 6: or seventh guy.

510
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Speaker 7: So I just feel like we haven't seen that.

511
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Speaker 8: And what we mean by that is be consistent. See,

512
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Speaker 8: you're not gonna as obvious a linement. Your hands are

513
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 8: not gonna always be perfect inside, You're not gonna always have.

514
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Speaker 5: A perfect deuce box, but you split it right down

515
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Speaker 5: the middle.

516
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Speaker 8: But guys that fruise to give up, Guys that are

517
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Speaker 8: willing to fight, you know, to take a stance, you know,

518
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Speaker 8: And this is what we're talking about. If we just

519
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 8: need for a guy to say, hey, I'm the man.

520
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Speaker 8: You know, you may run over me, but you know what,

521
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Speaker 8: it's gonna be.

522
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Speaker 5: A trench just wide in the ground with me hankering

523
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Speaker 5: down to fight you every step of the way. That's

524
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Speaker 5: what we need.

525
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Speaker 8: And that comes with reps for Hoffing and all these

526
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Speaker 8: guys and Awesome and these guys they need reps. And

527
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Speaker 8: and sometime I think you have to move on from

528
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Speaker 8: other guys to give these guys the rep. So I

529
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Speaker 8: want to watch practices day to see who's the starting

530
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Speaker 8: who's the backup left guard, who's the swing tackle? Because

531
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Speaker 8: now with coaches watching film, they should be narrowing it

532
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Speaker 8: down and by but by the end of this game

533
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Speaker 8: that's coming up, we will see see it even more.

534
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Speaker 5: Who is the backup guys?

535
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Speaker 2: Who do you feel like right now? Is that guy

536
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Speaker 2: the guy that's most likely to step up and fill

537
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Speaker 2: that role that you're alluding to, the one that you're saying, Hey.

538
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Speaker 5: Swing tackle is I think is awesome.

539
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Speaker 8: I mean, it could be different for him, but I

540
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Speaker 8: think I would get seventy sixth opportunity, okay, to be

541
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Speaker 8: the swing be the swing tackle, and I would work

542
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Speaker 8: him there exclusively.

543
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Speaker 5: You know.

544
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Speaker 8: And I'm I'm not one of these guys that believe

545
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Speaker 8: that if one guy go down and we all talking

546
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Speaker 8: about Tyrone Smith, if he goes down, now you slide

547
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Speaker 8: this guy out, you put this guy. You got to

548
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Speaker 8: make eight.

549
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Speaker 5: Moves for one guy.

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Speaker 8: I'm just praying that if something happened to Tyrone, we

551
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Speaker 8: leave Tyler Smith at the guard and we have awesome

552
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Speaker 8: or we have idoga.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's stiff.

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Speaker 8: I don't like him, not as a human but as

555
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Speaker 8: a player. He's stiffen iron board man. I see boards

556
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 8: have more flex, but uh, that.

557
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Speaker 5: That isn't my guy.

558
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Speaker 8: Maybe he's a gamer like the guy we brought in

559
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Speaker 8: last year, the big kid All Pro Hall of Famer

560
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 8: last year, Peter. Yeah, you know, he could give us

561
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 8: thirty forty plays, you know, and that's what we would

562
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Speaker 8: need from these guys.

563
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Speaker 6: I think with his body type is more of a guard,

564
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Speaker 6: it's more of an interior guy, and that's that's where

565
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 6: he's gotten a lot of his reps during a career too.

566
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Speaker 6: So you know, before he went down injury last week,

567
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Speaker 6: I wanted to see a lot more reps at interior.

568
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Speaker 6: But to that same point, I was talking with Nick

569
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Speaker 6: Eatman yesterday and he brought up a really good point.

570
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Speaker 6: The fact that Austin Richards started at left tackle was

571
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Speaker 6: really interesting, and I think we've been thinking about that

572
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Speaker 6: over of course in the last few days, and Nick

573
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Speaker 6: was like, yeah, it was probably set for Tuma to

574
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Speaker 6: get that start at left tackle, but then once he

575
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Speaker 6: went down, Austome had to step in and take those reps.

576
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Speaker 6: And that's a really good point and a I think

577
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 6: Austome did really well with that challenge. I'm excited to

578
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 6: talk to Awesome today because I just want to talk

579
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Speaker 6: to him about that game planning and having to kind of,

580
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Speaker 6: you know, some cram.

581
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Speaker 2: For that test.

582
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Speaker 6: But he did well at left tackle and when he

583
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Speaker 6: slide slid into left guard, I think he did even better.

584
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Speaker 7: So I want to see more reps at both of

585
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Speaker 7: those spots for him.

586
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Speaker 2: The two one to zero sending us a text saying,

587
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Speaker 2: good morning, guys, what have you seen from TJ Bass?

588
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 2: And do you think he could step in if something

589
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 2: is needed from him?

590
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Speaker 8: His strength is in his legs and he had to

591
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 8: play through that. He's got to get a better strike

592
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,959
Speaker 8: and he's got to always play from a leverage position.

593
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 8: He's always got to play with his knees bent, in

594
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 8: his hips bent, and his head up in his chest back.

595
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 8: So he's gonna have to be a technician. But I

596
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 8: think coach Clari likes him. He's gonna give him, give

597
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 8: him opportunity. But with all preseason games, the first one,

598
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 8: the guys that have already been established, gets the first run.

599
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 8: After the preseason game, then it's every man for himself.

600
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Speaker 8: Now coaches say, you know what, let's put seventy six there,

601
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Speaker 8: which is awesome. Let's put TJ. Bassard I think it's

602
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Speaker 8: sixty six. Let's put him at this right guard, and

603
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Speaker 8: let's give him a first run with the first team.

604
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 8: You know, they'll mix a match.

605
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 7: And the thing with TJ.

606
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Speaker 6: Bass I know, I've talked about it on the show

607
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 6: a couple of times. I think it's it's what he

608
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 6: comes from. His offensive line coach at Oregon that went

609
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Speaker 6: out of his way to go recruit him whenever he

610
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 6: was coming out of the JUCO ranks, Alex Mirrable, who

611
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 6: I in my opinion, is the best offensive line coach

612
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Speaker 6: in the country. It's hilarious because he's like five ft four,

613
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 6: He's this tall, but he's.

614
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Speaker 5: Tony wise like yeah, my old coach.

615
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Speaker 6: Yeah, but man, he that technique is what is so

616
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 6: strong with him and right, guys that come out of

617
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 6: that system at Oregon.

618
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 7: Mirball is now at Miami.

619
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Speaker 6: But guys that were coming out of that system at

620
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,959
Speaker 6: Oregon come out with so much technique and just pristine movement.

621
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Speaker 7: And I see that from TJ.

622
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Speaker 6: Bass He has those strong legs, like you said, he

623
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 6: has that lower half that drives forward. He's got the

624
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 6: great hands. So it's just about putting it together and

625
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 6: like you said, stay and consistent. That's gonna be the

626
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:19,959
Speaker 6: biggest thing for him.

627
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Speaker 2: And while Saturday was also our first opportunity to see

628
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 2: the offensive line, it could also be our first opportunity

629
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Speaker 2: to see Mike McCarthy as a play caller as well,

630
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: and how this West Coast scheme could work out and

631
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: how it could continue to build as well. I mean,

632
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 2: it's a very thin margin of the playbook. But we

633
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: got a question from the eight one seven Billy. He says,

634
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: was the play calling just held back? Was he rusty?

635
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: Was it vanilla? What did you guys see from the

636
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: way that Mike McCarthy called the game. I didn't have

637
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 2: any problem with it. It's the first preseason game. It's

638
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: probably going to be a little bit vanilla because you

639
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: don't want to show anything on offense. But what did

640
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: you guys think?

641
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and you also have to think, Ky, you know

642
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 6: your personnel and the personnel that was on the field,

643
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 6: it doesn't necessarily reflect what will be out there in

644
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 6: Week one, especially from a skill perspective. I mean, you

645
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 6: didn't have CD Lamb, you didn't have Brandon Cooks, you

646
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 6: didn't have Tony Pollard, you didn't have Dak Prescott, so

647
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 6: I get as far as play calling specifically, you have

648
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 6: to keep it kind of quote unquote dry. I don't

649
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 6: want to call it dry, but I guess that's the

650
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 6: best way to put it, just because.

651
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Speaker 7: You, Yeah, I know a little part of the sponsored thing.

652
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Speaker 5: You shit well on this show.

653
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 7: Isaiah would love you. But shoot, I lost my trade

654
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Speaker 7: of thought.

655
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Speaker 2: But it's all good.

656
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Speaker 6: The play calling, I think it was drive to a

657
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Speaker 6: certain extent, but you don't want to open up everything

658
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 6: in the preseason. I think what we could take away

659
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 6: from a play calling perspective is that he's going to

660
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 6: put the guys on the field. He's going to play

661
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 6: to their strengths. And one specific moment stood out to me.

662
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 6: It wasn't executed, but they were put in the right

663
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 6: spot to uh to execute. The Cowboys were in plus

664
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 6: territory I believe it was late in the second quarter

665
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 6: early in the third and had about a second and

666
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 6: eight situation and they went back to back slants to

667
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 6: Jalen Brooks and Will Greer couldnt connect with him on

668
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 6: either of those attempts. It was kind of a rough

669
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 6: for Jalen Brooks to get either of those attempts. But

670
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 6: what we've seen through camp is Jalen Brooks taking those slants,

671
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 6: being physical, creating that early separation and getting that ball

672
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 6: and driving up field to get that first down. That's

673
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 6: that's exactly what this offense is. It's putting those guys

674
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 6: in the best positions to succeed. It just wasn't really

675
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 6: executed at that point. But going forward to Seattle, you're

676
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 6: going to see a slant to Jalen Brooks in a

677
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 6: second and you know, long situation or so just to

678
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: pick up that first down, because that's what he's best at,

679
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 6: and that's what we see from this offen.

680
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: We'll just added just on top of that. I mean,

681
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: Brooks was a little bit banged up in the game too.

682
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: He had had ankle tape and wrapped up. He said

683
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: it was on one of the first passing plays of

684
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: the game. He just kind of put a foot in

685
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: the ground and it slipped a little bit and it

686
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: just kind of He's fine. He's not on the injury

687
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: reporter and a last he might be on the injury

688
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: report if it showed up, but he would be a

689
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: full participant. He's not missing time. But he just said,

690
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: man I wasn't one hundred percent. I wasn't able to

691
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: run the routes the way that I wanted to. I

692
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 2: wasn't able to play with that ferocity that I've been

693
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: showing in camp. I mean, there's a couple things there

694
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 2: to think about. With Jaylen Brooks. I'm excited for him

695
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: to be fully healthy and get a chance at it

696
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: and to continue to roll.

697
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 5: The one thing that Nick said over and over and

698
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: I just it is so true. He was calling nice plays.

699
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 5: It's just lack of execution.

700
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 6: You know.

701
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 8: Will Grill wasn't on target for most of the first

702
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 8: when he first got in it, maybe his first ten

703
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 8: or twelve plays, he wasn't on target. The guys wasn't

704
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 8: blocking the way by time Dukes got in the game,

705
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 8: because you saw him calling those plays. But all of

706
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 8: a sudden they were working. So it was about execution

707
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 8: with me. And when I watch, when I'm watching early

708
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 8: in the year, he's still playing to these guys' strength.

709
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 8: If you're this type of guy, if you are runner, Donald,

710
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 8: you are runner, I'm gonna run you. I'm gonna throw

711
00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 8: you the ball.

712
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do that.

713
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 8: And he and he's looking, but he's also trying to

714
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 8: figure out what he can and cannot do with you,

715
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 8: So it still comes down to execution.

716
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 5: Don't worry about to play. Call him coaches. That's why

717
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: he was brought here.

718
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 8: And I didn't speak to the coach for the first

719
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 8: year because I was mad because I want him to

720
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 8: call plays.

721
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 5: Oh you're doing, coach, Hey, how you doing? Nate? I

722
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 5: just look at it, you know. But now, I mean

723
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: every day I see Him'm hugging me. This guy he's weird.

724
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: Now I'm not weird, just saut it. Love for you, coach,

725
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 5: I want you to call plays.

726
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 7: I think something else that was interesting. You brought it up.

727
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 6: As far as the running backs is it was kind

728
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 6: of chucked down central. Yes, yes, he talked about in

729
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 6: the press conference yesterday. They got ten receptions to running backs,

730
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 6: thirty one total touches to running backs. So it's it's

731
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 6: tough to bring out your entire offense when you're trying

732
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 6: to figure out who is RB.

733
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 7: Two and you have to distribute those touches accordingly.

734
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 6: So you're not going to see this full product honestly

735
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 6: until like week three, because there's still gonna be something

736
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 6: through in the first couple of weeks.

737
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 8: The preseason for you guys, scrimmish to me. The first

738
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 8: four games of the year is preseason to me. So

739
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 8: you hear me talk scrimmage to preseason. Then about the

740
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 8: fifth game, everybody should be in place, you know normally

741
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 8: the major injuries done happened, and everybody the wound. And

742
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 8: while how you doing, coach Harris, Good to see you, man,

743
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 8: You're great.

744
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: Yeah.

745
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 7: Now we haven't.

746
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 5: Run into We're gonna be there in a minute.

747
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: We've got an extra mic over here. All if you've

748
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: got time. I love you, man, But.

749
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 8: Nick man, I'm gonna do this openly, and because I

750
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 8: like you, I appreciate it. We're gonna get y'all, Jesse Holly,

751
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 8: and we're gonna take Nick.

752
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 5: No, please, don't. I love Jesse. I I love Jesse too.

753
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 5: He's very informative. But Nick is an old iron man.

754
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: This is yeah, that's exactly what this is. He's about

755
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: to get fine tampering.

756
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 5: Let's switch it.

757
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: Since he's an offensive line man, let's switch it to

758
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: the defense. Get him off of his heyday three six

759
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: zero says Curious on jan Yer Thomas's play the interception

760
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: to start the game. He said, what better way to

761
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: start on defense. That's Marco fan from Vancouver.

762
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: Let me say this right here.

763
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to defer to Nick and you because

764
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 8: I'm telling you I was not looking at secondary, I

765
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 8: was not looking at in line, but even linebackers.

766
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 5: I admitted it. So what do you guys think about

767
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 5: these guys?

768
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 6: I will say about Wan Dyer right off the bat. There's,

769
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: first off, there's no better way to start a game

770
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 6: than to pick off Trevor Lawrence on his very first

771
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 6: passing attempts. But I really like what I've seen from

772
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 6: Wandier throughout training camp. He's been extremely physical, He's been

773
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 6: in the right places, He's done his job, and I

774
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 6: think that's what's so important to put him in that

775
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 6: position to succeed. And there's more to that play than

776
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,919
Speaker 6: just getting the interception. It's being in that right place.

777
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 6: But talking about his overall game performance, I liked what

778
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 6: I saw from him. I think there were things that

779
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: he has done out here that wasn't quite translated to

780
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 6: the game field, but I have overall, man, you have

781
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 6: to like what Wan Ye's done. I think we talked

782
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 6: about it. I think last night a little bit that

783
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 6: safety conversation is getting a little interesting in the depth

784
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 6: of that room because of the guys that are stepping

785
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 6: up and you know, showing their presence with Donovan Wilson

786
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 6: being out with injury.

787
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 2: What do you think about the defensive front because you

788
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: might not have been watching the secondary, but I know

789
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: you're watching the defense.

790
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 8: I think the defensive front played well. Osa, he's ready, Yeah,

791
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 8: you know he's ready.

792
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: So I would take the paths off. I think I would.

793
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 8: And I'll keep saying this same thing. Uh for for Mazie.

794
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 8: You know, sir, you're You're not the strongest man in

795
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 8: the NFL. This is some office a lineman that can

796
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 8: they they And when we were talking to camping camping

797
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 8: out last night and uh Patrick c was saying, hey,

798
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 8: his strength, this is strength that and I wanted to

799
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 8: debate him, but I'm not going to debate him.

800
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: Because smart smart. Yeah.

801
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 8: Well the thing is because I'm not you never hear

802
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 8: me say you around to hear me say I played. No,

803
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 8: I'm not going that route. But I wanted to tell

804
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 8: him if I was playing against Mazie, I would punch

805
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 8: Mozzie rapped in his chest and for the next sixty snaps.

806
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 8: I know he gonna try to man handle me, but

807
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 8: guess who. He won't touch my running back or my quarterback.

808
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 8: Eat me alive, baby, That's what I'm here for. You

809
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 8: get what I'm saying, and that's why, and that is

810
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 8: my problem.

811
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 5: That is my deal. You can't just sink into everybody

812
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 5: on every play. You just can't throw it. Even if

813
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 5: you take me and throw me, as long as you

814
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 5: don't throw me back into the quarterback, who cares. So

815
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: that's what I'm trying to say.

816
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 8: He has to learn to not only use that power,

817
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 8: but take a step to the right, take a step

818
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 8: to the left, close down because if he closed on

819
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 8: the running game the way these linebackers run, oh Man,

820
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 8: Layton overshown and clock.

821
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 5: But these dudes gonna kill some folks.

822
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 8: And if they missed him, then number forty one, my

823
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 8: homeboy gonna get them.

824
00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 5: Yep.

825
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Markey's bail is who I'm talking about

826
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 8: coming to get you.

827
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: Donovan. You gotta sew your game, baby. Yeah.

828
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 7: I'll say this about the defensive front.

829
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 6: I think a guy that I really wanted to see

830
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 6: more from and I didn't with Sam Williams. I expected

831
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 6: him being the guy that was in the quote unquote

832
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 6: Micah Role on Saturday. You know, they had him coming

833
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 6: off both edges. They had him even dropp him back

834
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 6: at a couple of times. I wanted to see more

835
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 6: from Sam Williams. I would like to see more from

836
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 6: him in Seattle. So as far as you know, also

837
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 6: a DIGGI Zua having a great a great out and

838
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 6: go ahead, take the pads off him, put on the

839
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 6: bubble wrap. Not quite with Sam Williams. I wanted him

840
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: to get some more reps. I think he needs it

841
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 6: going into the season because I think he's gonna have.

842
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 7: A huge year. Two.

843
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 8: The thing is, and I don't notice, but he walked

844
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 8: out of practice a couple of times early.

845
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 5: Is he Is he okay physically?

846
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: It's a shoulder.

847
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 6: He's battling a shoulder problem, but it's not it's not

848
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 6: serious enough where they would keep himut in the preseason.

849
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 6: So I think he had separated it maybe at one

850
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 6: point popped it back in and he's just kind of

851
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 6: dealing with that, you know football.

852
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that's just a football injury, all right. When

853
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: we come back speaking of a guy that's that's played

854
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: through some injury before he now has a new home, Ezekill.

855
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: Elliott is now in New England. I want to talk

856
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: about the running back position and we'll wrap things up

857
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 2: when we come back with more talking cowboys.

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Speaker 12: Welcome back into Dear Doctor, the show where I answer

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Speaker 12: let's hear from my next caller, would you there, doctor?

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Speaker 1: My friend supported me during a tough time.

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Speaker 8: Did you cry on?

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Speaker 12: Okay, this one's easy, I say, give her a delicious

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Speaker 12: a kind soda. Yes, any Doctor Pepper flavor will do.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 12: Just a reminder that I don't need to be a

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Speaker 11: To Talking Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Final segment of Talking Cowboys is brought to you by Invisiline,

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Speaker 2: the official smile of the Dallas Cowboys, of course, presented

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Speaker 2: Alongside Nick Harris, formerly Nate Newton. Nate had some other duties.

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Speaker 2: He's got to go as a busy man. He's got

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Speaker 2: to go host the fans. This is the Cowboys Nation.

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Speaker 2: Gets ready to file in the gates here and get

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Speaker 2: ready for practice on Tuesday, have one more padded practice tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: and then it's off to Seattle on Friday to really

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Speaker 2: get ready for that second preseason game. One other news

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Speaker 2: and note that we've got to hit. Ezekiel Elliott has

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Speaker 2: signed a one year deal six million dollars in New

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Speaker 2: New England. He is now officially a part of the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. It's it's a bittersweet day, I think

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Speaker 2: for those that cover the team and that those that

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Speaker 2: cheered for the Cowboys really since twenty sixteen, but and.

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Speaker 7: Those on the team as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt the fact that he is officially no

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Speaker 2: longer going to wear the star on the side of

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Speaker 2: his helmet, but also the fact that he has a

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Speaker 2: chance to go and show out in New England. I

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Speaker 2: put out a tweet yesterday, I'm super happy for Zeke.

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Speaker 2: I really am. I'm pumped that he got a spot.

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Speaker 2: He's in a good situation with a great coaching staff,

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Speaker 2: and outside of Week four, I hope he puts up

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Speaker 2: great numbers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

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Speaker 2: I hope he has a great year. What are your

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Speaker 2: thoughts on on his signing and also how that could

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Speaker 2: affect really the long term visibility of this running back.

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Speaker 6: I'll even say him scoring in week four, there'll be

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Speaker 6: some cheers in the crowd effect, There'll be a couple,

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Speaker 6: but there'll be a couple booze but the absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I'm super excited for Ezekiel Elliott, not

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Speaker 6: only getting an opportunity like he's going to have in

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Speaker 6: New England to you know, take on a bigger role

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Speaker 6: than he even had last year. You know, he's gonna

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Speaker 6: be alongside Andre Stevenson. I think that's a really fun

941
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Speaker 6: running back duo, and you know he's gonna be able

942
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Speaker 6: to make some things happen in that running back room

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Speaker 6: and on that offense.

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Speaker 7: But not only the fact that he's on.

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Speaker 6: A team, but also he's going back to fifteen, he's

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Speaker 6: going back to the old hair style. He's tapping into

947
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Speaker 6: you know who he was whenever he came into this league.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I'm excited for his new opportunity. I

949
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Speaker 6: think he's gonna flourish in it. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 6: have a really big year. I would I would have

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Speaker 6: him as my flex on my fantasy team, Okay, just

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Speaker 6: to you know, keep him around.

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Speaker 2: Just as a possibility there. I like that idea. Now,

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Speaker 2: would you keep any of the guys that showed out

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Speaker 2: as RB two or three, or four or five on Saturday?

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Speaker 2: Would you keep them as your flex on your fantasy

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Speaker 2: team if they've played for the Dallas.

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Speaker 6: Coup Man, that's a that's a good one, Kyle, that's

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Speaker 6: I like how you put that one.

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Speaker 7: Right now.

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Speaker 6: No, just because I we've talked about it, I don't

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Speaker 6: think there's a cemented guy that's that's number two right now.

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Speaker 6: You can make a case for any four or five

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Speaker 6: of those guys, and I'd be like, Okay, that makes sense.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think there's a logistical debate for every

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Speaker 6: guy that's vying for that spot. Let's run him down

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Speaker 6: really quick. Rigo Dubdell, you know, he shows that burst.

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Speaker 6: He's got kind of that big body set. He's going

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Speaker 6: to be probably one of your better pass protectors in

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Speaker 6: that room. Duce Vaughan kind of speaks for itself, but

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Speaker 6: he's gonna have that big playability. He's going to be

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Speaker 6: the fan favorite. He's going to be huge out of

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Speaker 6: the receiving game and on special teams. You got Malik

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Speaker 6: Davis similar to both of those guys.

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Speaker 7: He's got that burst.

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Speaker 6: Maybe needs a little bit more improvement in pass pro.

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Speaker 6: He had a really bad moment in the game on Saturday,

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Speaker 6: and it was kind of being thrown into the fire

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Speaker 6: right in those first couple of drives from Elik Davis.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to see him get some more valuable reps

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Speaker 6: on Saturday in Seattle. But then Ronald Jones, obviously he's

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Speaker 6: dealing with that two game suspension to start the season

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Speaker 6: and with the groin injury out here, still trying to

984
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Speaker 6: work him back into the rotation. You know, if he

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Speaker 6: does get back in, he's gonna have to make a

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Speaker 6: splash immediately, just because he's having less opportunity as each

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Speaker 6: day goes by. And then Hunter Lopke really quick, great

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Speaker 6: in pass protection, probably the best one of that group,

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Speaker 6: and he's gonna get you those hard fought you know.

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Speaker 7: Short yard of the yards.

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Speaker 2: You think that gives a better shot for a guy

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Speaker 2: like Hunter Lipke to make the roster than even Ronald Jones.

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Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily knocking Ronald Jones. He's just got

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Speaker 2: an uphill battle knowing that his contract's more expensive. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's dealing with a suspension and right now he's dealing

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Speaker 2: with an injury.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would think so for a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 6: A Lipkey is a lot younger, you know, coming in

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Speaker 6: as a rookie, and be I think he's a lot

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Speaker 6: more versatile. You know, he's he's shown at North Dakota

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Speaker 6: State and he's shown even out here that he can

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Speaker 6: do a little bit more things. He can be that

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Speaker 6: pass protector, he can take a couple of receptions out

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Speaker 6: of the backfield if he needs to. He can you know,

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Speaker 6: get those harder and short yarded yards. You know, his

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Speaker 6: very first carry came in plus territory. It was around

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Speaker 6: the thirty yard line I think on Saturday, and he

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Speaker 6: just bulldozed a couple of guys to get five six

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Speaker 6: yards and I was like, Yeah, that's that Bison there.

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Speaker 6: So you know, I would love to see Lipkey get

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Speaker 6: some more reps. I don't I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 6: be RB two here by any stretch of the imagination,

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Speaker 6: but I think he'd be a really fun guy to

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Speaker 6: keep around.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to see how this running back room unfolds,

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Speaker 2: and we'll have another chance at it on Saturday to

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Speaker 2: see them against Seattle. Seattle's got a pretty deep front

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Speaker 2: seven too. I mean, the more that you look at

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Speaker 2: their defense, they have some names that are on both

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Speaker 2: the first and second teams, depending on even if they

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Speaker 2: play the starters. I think you'll see a good amount

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Speaker 2: of talent from a running back standpoint. So it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a good test for this offensive line. Again, it'll

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Speaker 2: be a great test for the running backs and to

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Speaker 2: see their explosiveness, their ball security if you're talking about

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Speaker 2: Rico Dowdell. So for the most part, I think Saturday

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Speaker 2: will possibly provide some clearance. I don't think this past

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Speaker 2: Saturday did, if anything, has just showed Duson can play,

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Speaker 2: which we kind of expected and we were excited to see.

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Speaker 2: But now you've got a chance to see it flourish

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Speaker 2: a little bit more. You can say, Okay, Duvon can

1032
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Speaker 2: really play, or maybe Rico Dowdell is your number two back.

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Speaker 2: But it gives you some clarity as opposed to maybe

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Speaker 2: looking outside and potentially finding another one of those veteran

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Speaker 2: running backs that around the market.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and we talked about it with Nate.

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Speaker 6: As far as the offensive line, that trickles down to

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Speaker 6: all of these possession groups. Just consistency, And I think

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Speaker 6: that's all they're trying to look for in our to

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Speaker 6: a guy that they can bring in whenever Tony Poler

1041
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Speaker 6: needs to step off the field and they know what

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Speaker 6: they're gonna get out of him. That could be three yards,

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Speaker 6: that could be seven yards. It's just let's let's see

1044
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Speaker 6: consistency there. So uh, I think that's probably the biggest

1045
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Speaker 6: thing that we're looking for in these next two weeks

1046
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Speaker 6: in the preseason. I think that's why the spotlight is

1047
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Speaker 6: so bright, because fans just want to see why fans

1048
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Speaker 6: just want to see that guy that is consistently showing

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Speaker 6: up every week.

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Speaker 7: Right now, it's Deuce one.

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Speaker 2: I just can't believe we got forty five minutes into

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Speaker 2: the show before we had our first Duce Vaughan mentioned

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Speaker 2: after on Saturday. So we apologize, Duce, but hey, we

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Speaker 2: got you in there and we'll talk plenty More'll be

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Speaker 2: all right, Uh Thursday, we'll be back with another Talking

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Speaker 2: Cowboys nine to am on the Pacific Coast eleven am

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Speaker 2: Central time. Patrick no Cy Walker will make his triumphant

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Speaker 2: return on Thursday.

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Speaker 7: Steal him back.

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Speaker 2: We're taking him back. We may even try and take

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Speaker 2: Nate back. Who knows, Oh the way, Nate's leaving on Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: So we'll have Patrick for sure on Thursday, with more

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Speaker 2: of the show for Chris being behind the camera, for

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Speaker 2: Nick Harris, Nate Newton. I'm KYLEI Yomen saying so long.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time on Talking Cowboys. Presented by

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