1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercamp. I'm a mother of five, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, a practicing physician and blogger. 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: On the side, we are two working parents who love 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: our careers and our families. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping 8 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds. 10 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode one hundred and eighty five, 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: which is airing in mid February. We're going to be 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: doing a deep dive into fun. Obviously, we are big 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: fans of fun here at Best of Both Worlds. We 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: talk about it even in our intro, finding time for 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: fun and things like that. But one of the things 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: we've realized over the years is that fun is not 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: automatic when you have a busy life, when you have 18 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: a big career, when you have kids. It takes work 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: to have fun, and that can be a really hard 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: thing to get your head around, like, oh my gosh, 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: I have to plan my fun. I have to do 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the logistics for fun to happen. So that's why people 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: winend up having less fun because they have trouble getting 24 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: their heads around that idea. But if you can get 25 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: your head around the idea that fun takes work, then 26 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: a lot more fun can be had, right Sarah, Yes, 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: fun takes forethought fun, I guess. I'm sure there's certainly 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: some spontaneous fun, But in this day and age, I think, 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: if anything, it's become even harder to come by because 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: you have so many different variables that you have to 31 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: think about, even though as planning doesn't necessarily feel like 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: the most fun thing. For example, if you want to 33 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: go to an outdoor garden, back in the day, you 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: might have been able to just decide to do that, 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: but now they may be limiting the number of tickets, 36 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: so you in order to keep things less crowded, or 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: you might want to, you know, think about what the 38 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: least crowded time of day is and kind of plan 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: your day around that. So as much as it pains 40 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: us right now, and as much as people tend to 41 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: be less excited about planning things, in some ways life 42 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: is just demanding more of us if we do want 43 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: to find bits of enjoyment just soa but yeah, what 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: was the last thing that you did that could be 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: described as really fun? That's so funny. I love how 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I like asked you that question, but I never reflected 47 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: on how wait don't we both to answer this question 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: at the beginning, I thought that was the whole thing. 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: You're right. We had a really nice play date at 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: an outdoor garden where our kids have gone to this 51 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: place so many times that it's no longer really that 52 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: we go for the attraction of like the animals and stuff, 53 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 1: because they've literally like they're like intimate friends with like 54 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: the turtle at this point, but more because it's a 55 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: good place you can meet up with other people but 56 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: allow for great distancing because there's wide open spaces. So 57 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I had a lovely played recently with one of my 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: best friends who like is in Miami Beach, but we're 59 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: still in close touch, and we just let the kids 60 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: run around outside for like two hours. They were just 61 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: like running in a field and we just got to 62 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: hang out. So that was definitely really fun. That's awesome. 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm glad that was a fun thing that involved kids, 64 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: because of course a lot of people spending a lot 65 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: more time with their children at home these days, which 66 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: is another thing that can make fun a little bit 67 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: more difficult. I was publicly tracking my time a few 68 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and as part of that, I made sure 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: to put a couple fun things into my week that 70 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: I might not have in other circumstances, just because I 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: knew i'd have to be writing about it. Among the 72 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: things I did, I got tickets to local art museum 73 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: just on a Tuesday at eleven o'clock. It was an 74 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: exhibit I had wanted to see. So I drove there 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: and saw the exhibit and that was fun for me. 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: And then Michael and I did a date night on 77 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: the Saturday. Our nanny had given us a couple hours 78 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: of weekend childcare as a Christmas present, and so we 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: cash that in and went out to another museum, to 80 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: the Barnes Museum, which is a wonderful place here in Philadelphia. 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: That's gott just. I mean, every gallery would be like 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: a highlight gallery in any other It's a small museum, 83 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: but it's all highlights, I guess, is how I'd put it, Like, oh, 84 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: there's another renoir. Another says on how nice I've seen 85 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: that one already, but then we grabbed a quick dinner afterwards, 86 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: so that was really fun too, And just trying to 87 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: think of little things I can do on my own. 88 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: Just our new house. We bought the piano off the 89 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: old owner, so because he was downsizing, he didn't want 90 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: to move it, and so it's a really nice piano. 91 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: So I go over there and play it and that 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: is fun for me as well. So I've actually been 93 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: having a fair amount of fun. I don't know, I 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: probably could have more, but just trying to think about 95 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: it and do stuff like that. I love it. I 96 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: love the art museum idea because that is something that 97 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: can be done right now, reasonably safely, in a lot 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: of settings, and just so peaceful. And it makes me 99 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: think of Gretchen Rubin's experiment of going to the met 100 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: every single day, which I am secretly jealous of, I 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: guess not so secretly. But the sunny thing about the 102 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: Met is, I mean, there are so many people who 103 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: live on the Upper east Side of Manhattan and you 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: just don't go. I mean, it's right there. I lived 105 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: on the Upper east Side of Manhattan and I probably 106 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: went a couple of times, but I mean, you could 107 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: just go at lunch every day if you had a 108 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: membership and walk in and see something new and walk out, 109 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: and yet you know, people don't. It's fascinating, But I'm 110 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: sure we all have something like that, not the met necessarily, 111 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: but the equivalent in our towns that you're like, Wow, 112 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: you live near X. How often do you go to X? 113 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: You're like, uh, three years ago. I feel like the 114 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: Florida equivalent of that is the beach. So many people 115 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: live very close to the beach, and actually, when we 116 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: lived in Miami Beach, we almost never went to the beach. 117 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: Part of it is that that's particular and this was 118 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: pre COVID, but that particular stretch of beach was really 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: popular in touristy and crowded, so it wasn't even always 120 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: as fun. We've actually probably gone to the beach more 121 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: since we moved, because they're the more northern beaches are 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: actually a little bit more family friendly and just relaxed. 123 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: But yeah, you may have your own outdoor or indoor 124 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: kind of treasure that tourists block to that you never 125 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: think about going routinely, and that was a great time 126 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: to check out those local gyms. Yeah, I mean again, 127 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: we get into the planning aspect of it, because so 128 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: many of those that are indoors do have timed tickets 129 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: these days. I know that's been a lot more challenging 130 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: for us, particularly with weekends, because then you know, you're 131 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: trying to go to a botanical garden, which theoretically you 132 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: should be able to go to at any point, but 133 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: they have time tickets, and so it's like, Okay, they 134 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: have to get the kids in the car at this 135 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: exact time and be around the baby's nap and hopefully 136 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: he's up by that point, did everyone's. So it does 137 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: add a dimension of stress to the fun. But as 138 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: we said, fun takes work. All right, let's talk about 139 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: fun in general, Sarah. Fun with friends. So you mentioned 140 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: your playdate. What else have you been doing? Yeah, so, 141 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: I mean fun with friends is an area that I 142 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 1: do feel has suffered a bit. I really used to 143 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: enjoy going to like in person book clubs and just 144 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: you know that, the random casual like meetups and play 145 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: dates and such. So I really look forward to when 146 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: that becomes less of an issue. But I will say, 147 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: as much as I zoom is not the same, it's 148 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: truth truly, truly not the same, but it can still 149 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: be its own kind of fun, and even if I 150 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: don't always get excited for a particular zoom. So we've 151 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: been doing these every other week zooms with my college friends. 152 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: It's always so much fun when we actually start doing them. 153 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: The funny thing is that of the six of us, 154 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: three of us have kids and three do not, so 155 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: it's an interesting split. And I am like the only 156 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: one that every single time is like frantically cooking dinner 157 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: during said zoom, and everyone else is like on an 158 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: easy chair, sometimes with a drink, and I'm like, They're like, 159 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: what are you chopping now? And I'm like Kars. But 160 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: it's still really really fun and it's a type of 161 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: connection that I wouldn't be able to get otherwise. And 162 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, like, we didn't do this before the pandemic, 163 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: So you know, some people get inspired to do things 164 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: like that, or reach out to connections from the past, 165 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: or just fill that friendship need with people that don't 166 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: necessarily live close because you can't easily get together with 167 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: those that are near you. So I'm not going to 168 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: say that's a substitute or the way I want it 169 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: to be forever, but it's pretty fun. Yeah, And I 170 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: would suggest that you can even combine this with the 171 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: sort of professional networking element. And obviously your college friends 172 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: is a different matter. But if you have a group 173 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: of people that you find intriguing and you think might 174 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: find each other intriguing, you could suggest something like this, like, 175 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: let's have four people get together to talk on Zoom 176 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: once a month or so. Plan it out so it's 177 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: not ridiculous free for all, but maybe I do this 178 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: with a couple of small groups. But you know, everyone 179 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: has a question, for instance, that they want other people's 180 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: feedback on, and you send that around beforehand so people 181 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: can prepare. Somebody directs the conversation, because again with Zoom, 182 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: unless you're talking about people who've known each other for 183 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 1: tis twenty years, you need somebody to direct it. And 184 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: even if they have known each other for twenty years, 185 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: it's probably wise to have somebody direct it and you know, 186 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: have a little to chat. And yes, it's professional, but 187 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: it satisfies a social need as well. And as you 188 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: repeatedly talk to people about things that matter to you, 189 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: you become closer. It's one of these fascinating things why 190 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: we feel close to people it's partly just a function 191 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: of time and consistency. And so even if you're starting 192 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: it as a professional thing, which many people can kind 193 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: of get their heads around doing, Like we feel more 194 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: permission to devote time to things that are professional, and 195 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: time when we have childcare, for instance, to things that 196 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: are professional. These people can become your real friends over time. Well, 197 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: this makes me think about the fact that two of 198 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: my colleagues have been talking. One of them keeps texting 199 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: me and saying, hey, are you gonna She wants me 200 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: to do it for some reason. I guess I have 201 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: that What does she want say for our listeners? Yeah, 202 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: so she wants me to start a book club, which 203 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: is that you want somebody else to start a book 204 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: I mean I have a million things had like other 205 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: people to start for me. I mean that's having to 206 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: like be like, you know, the MC. But I think, 207 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, she thinks that I should be the 208 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: organizer of said book club. But it would be really fun, 209 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: and I was thinking of keeping it really small, like 210 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: maybe only like five women that I work with and 211 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: just like picking some fun books and then it would 212 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: be kind of professional slash social slash personal. I don't know, 213 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: I think it'd be really fun. That's a great Maybe 214 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: I should get hurt in charge like before Way Win 215 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: as our you know, former guest Stup Friedman would say, 216 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: how about fun as a couple. What are you guys 217 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: doing for fun these days? No, we're failing, We're failingly. 218 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: I would say, the only thing that we're doing for 219 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: fun is watching various. I mean, I'm not I'm not 220 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: knocking it. Like actually, when we get into a show together, 221 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: we really do enjoy. Like we watched, as I mentioned before, 222 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: the Flight Attendant. We finished it. It was like eight episodes. 223 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: We really looked forward to it. You know, we would 224 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: talk about it and speculate about it when we weren't 225 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: watching it, so like you know, good TV like that. 226 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: But we are not really having any regular date nights, 227 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,239 Speaker 1: and we kind of could because our nanny could theoretically 228 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: do some of that. I just I'm not entirely sure 229 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: she's excited about doing it, and so I haven't pushed 230 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: the matter because we used to have a great date 231 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: night babysitter that would come. But you know, she's taking 232 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: care of another family and I just the bubbles get 233 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: all mixed up. It just it just becomes so much 234 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: more complicated, and because it's not typically our nanny's preference 235 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: to work weekends, we just we haven't needed it. I 236 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: do miss it a little bit, though, So tell me 237 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: about how that you guys are vaccinated and you've all 238 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: had COVID. I guess you guys are sort of on 239 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: the loor. Yeah, but convincing other people of that isn't 240 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: I mean, and then you never have any guarantees, Like 241 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: let's say that babysitter is super hesitant, but then by 242 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: some freak chance, like one of our kids gets it again, 243 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: and then I'm feel terrible. I don't know, like there's 244 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: just there's so many unknowns that I feel very comfortable 245 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: with our with our current nanny. And it's not from 246 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: It's not from me, like I feel comfortable personally. It's 247 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: like the impossible impact on others and whether they would 248 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Yeah, and do I like that? All sounds 249 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: like a lot of work, although I mean, you're right, 250 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: at some point, I'll just have to do it. Well. 251 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: At some point we'll have to figure it out. I mean, 252 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: as kids go back to like full time school and 253 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: have more activities. I mean, and especially if Michael starts 254 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: traveling again, We're going to need another driver, so eventually 255 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to figure that out. But yeah, 256 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: we only have our i mean, our full time nanny 257 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: at this point, and we get the weekend sitting when 258 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: it's like a special occasion like our Christmas present. But yes, 259 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: definitely don't want to push that. One thing we have 260 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: figured out though, is that Monday night can work. So 261 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: she works till seven on Mondays and I can arrange 262 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: the kids' activity schedule so nobody needs to be anywhere 263 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: on Monday night between the hours of like five thirty 264 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: and seven, and so we can grab a quick dinner 265 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: at five thirty or six somewhere, be back by seven 266 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 1: so she can leave and it's a nice, quick little 267 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: date night. And you know, doing something like Margarite does 268 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: on a Monday is not a bad way to spend time. 269 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: I that counts some fun in my book. So trying 270 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: to do it every couple of weeks when we think 271 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: about it and can make sure that we both don't 272 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: have calls or anything around five point thirty, that that 273 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: can be a way to have fun as a couple. No, 274 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: a weeknight would be great. We there's just there's a 275 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: little too much unpredictability in Josh's schedule, and his nights 276 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: tend to be wear it all, And I'm just I'm 277 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: hesitating because if I set myself up for being excited 278 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: about like a Wednesday night, and then something happens, then 279 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: I'll just be sad. So but you're right, at some 280 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: point it's something to think about. And I'm sure he 281 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: could clear if he had something very specific that he 282 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: was doing it for exactly what is fun just for you? Well, first, 283 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 1: let's we take a quick break. Yes, we'll take a 284 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: break and come back to that. Hey, listeners, I know 285 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: some of you are sleeping on some saggy old mattresses 286 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: at night, and you deserve better than that, so give 287 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: yourself an upgrade. 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Well, 306 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: welcome back to best of both worlds. We are talking 307 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: all things fun, deep dive on fun and before the break, 308 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: I asked Sarah what was fun just for her? So 309 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: what are you doing that's fun for you these days? 310 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: That's the easiest part of this. Lots of things are 311 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: fun for me, and generally when you're doing stuff just 312 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: for yourself. Again, this whole like change of lifestyle we've 313 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: had in the past year doesn't come into play nearly 314 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: as much, so that's great. I find reading really really fun. 315 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: I do think sometimes people will underestimate the amount of 316 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: effort it takes to curate your reading lists so that 317 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: it's fun, Like you're not just gonna automatically like have 318 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: the next fun book waiting for you when you finish. 319 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: And it can be very easy either to have no 320 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: book for a while and get stuck in limbo, or 321 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to start a book that is not very fun and 322 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: then not want to read it and then be like 323 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: stuck in that sad place where kind of want to 324 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: finish it but you don't really and so nothing's getting 325 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: read and that's not any fun. So I will say, 326 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: like I am trying very much this year to abandon 327 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: a book by page fifty. I think that's a good 328 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: line in the sand if I am not having fun 329 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: reading it, unless there's like some very like specific academic 330 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: reason that I'm reading it and want to, you know, 331 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: gain a certain set of knowledge, like if it's nonfiction 332 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: but fiction in particular, and I usually have a nonfiction 333 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: and fiction going at anyone times, that kind of helps 334 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: the stuckness of it. Yeah, I want my reading to 335 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: be fun, so that takes you know, having your next 336 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: book ready managing your library hohold list if you use 337 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: that or having it. I actually have this really nice 338 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: stack of books that I purchased kind of over the 339 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: last year that I if there's like three of them 340 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: that I can see right here. I have Anxious People 341 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: by Frederick Bachman. I have Yah Yasi's Transcending Kingdom. Those 342 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: are both you know, recommended, and I have a feeling 343 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: all like both of them. So while I'm working with 344 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: the library, it's nice to have a you know, a 345 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: backup that's there. So but reading is very fun for me. 346 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Some of my most enjoyable weekends are where you know, 347 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: we do slaying active in the morning as a family 348 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: and then the kids are relaxing and I just like 349 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: sit on the couch and read a ton of pages. 350 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: That is very fun. What else is fun? I love 351 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: playing with my various planning stuff. And you know, I'm 352 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: the first one to admit that nobody needs the number 353 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: of planners and products that I have, but I do 354 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: have fun using them. For example, my new five year 355 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: journal that I'm completing, I'm about you know, twenty days 356 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: twenty one days in is this new year of recording 357 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: this a little before it airs so that's really really fun. 358 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: And I'm incorporating some like hand lettering in there, so 359 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: there's a little bit of an art aspect, and I 360 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: think i'd like to get a little bit more into that. 361 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: So I want to get one of those like calligraphy 362 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: practice books, so I could kind of learn some of 363 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: the official strokes with my brush pens, and I think 364 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: that would be really fun. And yeah, I would say 365 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: those are my main forms of like easy home home fun. 366 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: I'm not really that into like shopping anymore. I still 367 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: love going outside, and I guess workouts are fun to 368 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: a certain extent. You know, it's a combination of like 369 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: torture and fun. I think can be very fun. Walks 370 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: can be fun exactly, you know. Run in somewhere pretty 371 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: that you haven't been before can always be great too. 372 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: I like puzzles. I like to read, although I've been 373 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: in a bit of a reading It's been harder for 374 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: me to read of lately, though I am reading through 375 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: War and Peace. I'll talk about that, and I'm sure 376 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: I've talked about that in past episodes. Now in the orders, 377 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: this is airing that one chapter a day, which is 378 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: great little adventures trying to take advantage of the fact 379 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: that I work for myself and I work from home. 380 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: I am the toughest boss on myself that anyone could 381 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: ever be. And I realized, like, I don't have to 382 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: sit at my desk nearly as much as I do, 383 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: and I could go do stuff, but I often don't 384 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, there is work somewhere that could 385 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: be done, I should be doing it. And one thing 386 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: I've been doing my church is still we're having our 387 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: staff singers record service music that is then put out 388 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: on a recording for everybody to listen to on Sunday morning, 389 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: and a couple of us have been able to come 390 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: in and sing with them. You know that it's still 391 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: a small enough group in a big enough space, and 392 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: we're far apart from each other and wearing masks while 393 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: we're singing as well to come record with them. This 394 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: is I think this has got to be the definition 395 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: of effortful fun, because singing along with a group of 396 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: eight professional singers is a very different experience than sort 397 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: of general community choir. I mean, you get the music, 398 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: you read through it, you troubleshoot new places, you go 399 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: record it. It's not easy music, but It's been really 400 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: fun on those days when I've been able to be 401 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: the person rotating in to do that. So I've been 402 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: grateful that that's still going on, and you know, choir 403 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: will start up again eventually when I guess enough people 404 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: are vaccinated and all that good stuff. And I really 405 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: enjoy singing. That's something that I make time for too. 406 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Can you give an example of one of your little adventures. Well, 407 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: we talked about going to the Art museum, for instance. 408 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: That's an adventure. You know, going to play you know, 409 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: piano at the house would be an adventure. And I 410 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: have a couple of trails around here that sometimes I 411 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: try to run on when i'm thinking about it, like 412 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: doing something a little bit different like that. You know, 413 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: I definitely want to keep brainstorming this list because I 414 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: know there is a ton of stuff I could do, 415 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: and there's you know, even fun showrooms to go to. 416 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: As I'm figuring out the house renovation. It's an adventure 417 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: to go see like a stone yard of all the 418 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: different kinds of granite or quartz or marble or whatever. 419 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: And the granite in particular is ridiculous because you think 420 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: this is natural, like something this came out of the 421 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: ground somewhere and it's like this sheet of like green 422 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: and gold and purple. And I don't know who on 423 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 1: Earth would ever put this in their house, but all 424 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: these stone yards have at least one slab that's like this, 425 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and you sort of stand there in awe of whatever 426 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: magma and cooling experience created this geological wonder. So, you know, 427 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: stuff like that, or even just I went running early 428 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: this morning. I'd been up with the baby since five 429 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: point forty five, and so I decided to hand them 430 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: over at seven and just go run before the day started. 431 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: And it was the most gorgeous sunrise this morning, and 432 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: it was freezing twenty degrees but the sky was brilliant, 433 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,880 Speaker 1: pink like, just for you know, at least the first 434 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: chunk of the run. And so just things like that, 435 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I think trying to pay attention and plan adventures and 436 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: also be open to them when they happen. I love it. 437 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: That was all sun great. I agree. I think having 438 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: a list so that you kind of I mean, I 439 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: feel like people bristle against that, like the Fall Fund 440 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: list and the spring, but there is something to that, 441 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: just having a number of things that you don't have 442 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: to like reinvent the wheel when you have a free day, 443 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: but you already have things that you've thought about and 444 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: can then go pursue. So I'm gonna take he take 445 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: take some example from you and try to work on 446 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: curating my fun list to include more out of the 447 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: house experiences because I also have some time that I 448 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 1: can use, not as much as you, definitely not as 449 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: much as you, but some I should exactly all right, 450 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: fun at multiple ages? Family fun, what is fun for 451 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: the whole family. So the things they came to mind 452 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: are mostly outdoors. And you know, of course your mileage 453 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: may vary depending on the age but of your kids, 454 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: although Laura has I don't think there's that many families 455 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: that have a bigger age spread than you do. So 456 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: if you if it works for you, and probably is 457 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: going to work for most people. For us, the beach 458 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: is like, it's easy, it's fun. We usually get milkshakes 459 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: on the way home, so that definitely adds to the fun. 460 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: The kids really enjoy it, All three of them enjoy 461 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: it at their own level. It does make me anxious, 462 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: but I try to like outsource the anxiousness to my husband, 463 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: like I would never take them by myself, I need 464 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: somebody like watching them in the water. That's not me. 465 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: But we make it fun in that way, and the 466 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 1: zoo is one of my like we've we've done it 467 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: fairly recently, and as you said, it's a walk. It's 468 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: a family walk with animals. Like what could be better 469 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: than that. You just have to go when the weather 470 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: is nice, so that you don't feel like you are, 471 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, slogging through a swamp. So for us, there's 472 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 1: there's only a few months when it makes sense to go. 473 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: But during those months, there's there's no reason you can't 474 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: go every few weeks. And I will say that having 475 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: a membership and knowing that you can just go to 476 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: one small place and hang out rather than feeling like 477 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: you have this job of like using the entire day, 478 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: for me, that makes it far far more fun. So 479 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: we will tell the kids like, oh, we're just going 480 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: to Asia because our zoo was gigantic, and it means 481 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: we'll just like really run around and explore those areas 482 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: and there's little playgrounds and stuff too, rather than feeling 483 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: like we have to exhaust our spe selves and spend 484 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 1: six hours. Although we're so weird that that's almost how 485 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: we are about Disney World as well, and exactly I 486 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: am a big fan of memberships places too, just because 487 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: it does take the pressure off. It's like, okay, well, 488 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: if you know, have a meltdown after forty five minutes, 489 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 1: we're fine. We can just leave and don't have to 490 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: worry about getting our money's worth on that. So yeah, 491 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: Zoo's always a big win. Science museums, I know that 492 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people like kid museums are in a 493 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: real tough place right now. I mean especially ones where 494 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: you're supposed to touch things because obviously people concerned about 495 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: the spread of germs. But you know, there are certainly 496 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: museums where there are things to look at as well 497 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: as touch. You could also just make sure people are 498 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: sanitizing constantly, and if you're wearing your mask, you can't 499 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: actually touch your mouth and your nose very easily, so 500 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: there's a check on it as well. Like your kids 501 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: may be touching things, but they're not sticking their fingers 502 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: in their mouths immediately afterwards, which I realized is the 503 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: key issue with touching stuff. So we've been to the 504 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: Franklin Institute here we went in November. They had you know, 505 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: time tickets like everywhere else, so it was very limited 506 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: number of people in there, and that was really cool. 507 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: The Wax Museum President's Hall, they had that as a 508 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: touring exhibit. Kids got to see the trains and various 509 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 1: simple machines and sciences that walk in the Giant Heart. 510 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Everyone still walks in the Giant Heart. I didn't walk 511 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: in the Giant Heart. I've never liked the Giant Heart. 512 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: But anyway, I love the Giant Heart when I was 513 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: a kid. I'm glad the Giant Heart is still going strong. 514 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: I would like to take my kids there someday and 515 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: we'll totally walk. We can walk through the Giant Hearts. 516 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: And one thing we've been doing is taking the kids 517 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: over to the new house and playing in the yard 518 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: because it's it's novel like they've never been there. You know, 519 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: they have now, but it's not their normal play place, 520 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: so it's all new and so it's this journey of 521 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: discovery as they figure out what they can do there. 522 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: We actually set up the trampoline that Ruth got for 523 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: Christmas in the garage there, so that's something they can do. 524 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: Or they can ride the bikes on the driveway because 525 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: the driveway is a lot longer than ours. There's a 526 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: that's down in the back and Alex has started chipping 527 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: away at the dirt from where the roots came up, 528 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: like this is a project that he's just I mean, 529 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it can fill an hour easy of him just chipping 530 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: at the dirt. So that's been fun. We play hide 531 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: and seek inside because it's empty, which is, you know, 532 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: we find the new spots, the new closets, and then 533 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: bikes of say, bike rides, and that's less of a 534 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: thing now because it's freezing, Like nobody wants to go 535 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: bike ride when it's twenty degrees outside. But when it 536 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: starts to warm up, or if we get a weekend 537 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: where it's you know, fifty degrees, that could be an 538 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: option as well. And we have it set up so 539 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: the big kids, the three big kids, all on their bikes. 540 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: Alex is on the tag along behind me, Henry's in 541 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: the burley behind Michael. The taglog is actually kind of 542 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: fun because it's like having a little boost on the back. 543 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: Alex is actually helpful, which is you wouldn't really think like, 544 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: I've got a kid behind me on a bike, but 545 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: he's actually peddling, and so it's like biking with a 546 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: you know, maybe fifteen twenty percent extra power. I don't 547 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 1: know how does the tag along is it? Is it 548 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: a separate bike that's attached to your I've actually never 549 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,959 Speaker 1: I don't think i've seen a taglong. Yeah, So it 550 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: hooks on your seat and then it's got a wheel. 551 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Why did that word not come to me? There's a 552 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: wheel as you have on a bicycle, and his seat 553 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: and so he you know, has his handlebars in his 554 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: seat and pedals and a one wheel and so it's 555 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: like three wheels on the bike, three wheels in a row, 556 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: and so he's pedaling pushing as well, and so there, 557 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: you know, it's a little bit of extra speed. I 558 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: kind of find it fun. It's certainly better than being 559 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: the parent pulling the burley because obviously that child is 560 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: just deadweight. Yep. We do well. When I say we, 561 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean everybody accept me because I'm actually the I 562 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: would love to get a bike, but we just haven't 563 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: done it. And actually I also love the fact that 564 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm the only one that doesn't because that means when 565 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: they all ride bikes, I get to stay to stay home. 566 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: But eventually I'll join in the crew. I mean, I 567 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: enjoy biking, and we do the burly thing, so my 568 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: Cameron and none of all are great bikers. And then 569 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: Josh will just go around and I guess he gets 570 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: the dead weight. And then the problem is that she 571 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: often falls asleep, but that's okay. Well, but then, yeah, 572 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: I guess that would be hard if you can't be 573 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: on a tag along that if she's gonna fall asleep, 574 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: although she probably wouldn't fall asleep so she was, So 575 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: she's last year, so I mean, but when she's four 576 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: four and a half she might be able to start 577 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: doing that kind of depends what kind of character she is, 578 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: but I get the sense that she might be excited 579 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: about being exactly exactly cool. Well, I already gave away 580 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: my idea for new fun, which is possibly doing another 581 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: book club. But do you have any ideas for new 582 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: fun or have you exhausted all of yours as well? Yeah, 583 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I'm hoping when the weather gets niceer, 584 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: I'll find some more outdoor places. I've been realizing there's 585 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: a few more open spaces, preserved open spaces and trails 586 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: around here than I was aware of. Many of them 587 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 1: are not publicized necessarily but they are in fact open 588 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: to the public. So I'm going to start exploring more 589 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: of those as the weather gets nicer. And yeah, I think, 590 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, also just thinking about what's within an hour 591 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: of us that we could make more day trips too. 592 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: I think we haven't even begun to explore, like Pennsylvania 593 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: Mountains and Pennsylvania History Site. Yeah, an hour of you 594 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: is like a lot. Yeah, exactly. Well, and you know 595 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: we go to the beach. I mean that's fun too. 596 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: I mean we can certainly go to the that's only 597 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: an hour and a half from here in the mountains 598 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: or only an hour and a half from here. So really, 599 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: I just need to be a little bit more focused 600 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: on getting out to do those things on weekends, and 601 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: you know we'll be we'll be good. Cool. All right, Well, 602 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: let's go to our question section. So somebody, I don't 603 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: know where this question came in from Instagram? Question what 604 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: do you have for lunch while you are working from home? 605 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's hear your list? All right? My list 606 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: includes eggs. I actually, for some odd reason, if I'm 607 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: like making like an egg on top of something or 608 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: scrambled eggs for lunch, it feels slightly luxurious, I guess, 609 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: because that's just something you can't really do when you're 610 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: like in your office giant pot of soup that will 611 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: be eaten all week, especially like we eat it on 612 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: Sunday night or something like that. I'm certainly not above 613 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,719 Speaker 1: cans of soup either. Soup is just comforting and I 614 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: like it. Sometimes it's frozen stuff, gonna admit. I will 615 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: hit the like Amy's burritos or something like that, lots 616 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: of leftovers, and then sometimes I end up just doing 617 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: like two snacks like you know, apple and peanut butter 618 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: at like eleven and then because I'm hungry, and then 619 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: like cheese and crackers later, and it's just like so easy. 620 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: And so I guess I don't have any like very 621 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: exciting ideas for you. And I'm sorry, but that seems 622 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: to work. Just the fact that I'm like at home 623 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: and can like toast bread or fried egg, to me, 624 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: is like very luxurious and a novelty. So I guess 625 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm still enjoying that aspect of it. Yeah, I mean, 626 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: we have a lot of people eating lunch at home 627 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: these days, and it tends to be kind of a 628 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: fend for yourself sort of meal. I will usually eat 629 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: the leftovers from dinner the night before or from two 630 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: nights before, depending on how many leftovers there are. We 631 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: get these Sun Basket kits. Sunbusket was a sponsor a 632 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: few months ago. We are still customers paying customers now. 633 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: We get two meal kits a week and it's usually 634 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: enough to have leftovers for at least one person for lunch, 635 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: and usually for more than that. So I eat those 636 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: whatever we've had on the weekend, Like if we cook 637 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: a steak on the weekend, I'll have that on lettuce 638 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: or with vegetables during the week you know. So usually 639 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: that's enough to get me through that. You know. My 640 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: husband often has a sandwich. The kids have a lot 641 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: of Annie's Mac and cheese shells with white cheddar. I 642 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: don't know why they really are into that one, but 643 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: that's pretty much I would say somebody is having that 644 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: five of seven days per week. So we go through 645 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: a lot of Annie's shell mac and cheese. Two out 646 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: of three of my children love that lunch, and one 647 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: of them will not touch it with the ten footballs. 648 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: That's fascinating. Well, I've realized, like so Sam now just 649 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: makes it many days and which is fine because I 650 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: if I don't have to make it, I don't care 651 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: if they're eating it. It's like I'd be like, oh, 652 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't feel like making mac and cheese. They're like, 653 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: they wouldn't get mac and cheese for lunch, and so 654 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: they solve this problem by just making it, which is 655 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: what they should have. You know, it's good, that's a 656 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: that's I don't know if your kids would deign to 657 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: eat it with frozen peas mixed in, but mine sometimes 658 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: no frozen peas would definitely be a bad I read this, 659 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: so I get Eating Well magazine and they had a 660 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: section in it this month of like, how you can 661 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: you know, dress up mac and cheese to have other 662 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: things in it. They're like, use the box stuff and 663 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: just put in us. My kids would know that such 664 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: such is an abomination, so we will we will not 665 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: be touching that idea, all right. Love of the week, 666 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I had a great album if I story 667 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: to go with it, So I was. I've been listening 668 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: to some of the top albums from last year, just 669 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: looking for fun ideas of new things to listen to. 670 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: There was an album by Kathleen Edwards called Total Freedom 671 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: and I really liked it, Like, I like the melody 672 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: of it. I felt like she sounded like what Taylor 673 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: Swift will sound like in ten years kind of. And 674 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: I sent it to Josh and he's like, that's a 675 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: divorce album, Like are you trying to like was this 676 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: a message or something? I was like no, And also 677 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: then I read about it and it was not a 678 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: divorce album. It was her total freedom. Was was not 679 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: from a relationship, although some of her songs are like 680 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: keeping my options open, so like, I get how he 681 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: could have gleaned that, but it had to do with 682 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: her musical career, which she actually took a break from 683 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve and just kind of left it behind, 684 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: even though she had been experiencing some success. So I 685 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: just thought that was really funny. He's like, I like it, 686 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: but like, what did you mean by that? I love it? Okay, 687 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: week nah, My love of the week is my new 688 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: daily ritual I for the new year. I mean we're 689 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: only twenty one days in, but so far, so good. 690 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: I read one chapter in War and Peace because War 691 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,479 Speaker 1: in Peace has three hundred and sixty one very short chapters. 692 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: They're about four pages each, so I'm reading a chapter 693 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: a day through the year, and it's kind of nice 694 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: because I get to really absorb the whole novel without 695 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: feeling like I need to read faster because I got 696 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: to get through this thing. I write at least one 697 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: hundred words in my free writing file, which one hundred 698 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: words is nothing. This was the point, just to make 699 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 1: it be like no resistance but something, so I open 700 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: it up and get in the habit of writing about 701 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: nothing but just something that is not being published, is 702 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: not for anyone. Is just to get in the writing habit. 703 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: And then I do at least some strength or resistance training, 704 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: so again it doesn't have to be much. I could do, 705 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, a dozen squats and be done, or I 706 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: could do some bicep curls and be done. Whatever. If 707 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,440 Speaker 1: I want to do more, great, But it's just to 708 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: establish the habit. And I'm doing it every single day. 709 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: We are twenty one days in as we were recording this. 710 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 1: I've done it every single day, all three of those things. 711 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, this could be sustainable for 712 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: the long haul, and I think that'll be good. Do 713 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: you find all that fun pretty much? Yeah? I mean 714 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: it's it's not not fun. I mean, it's easy enough, 715 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: and then I feel like, who, I've done something, even 716 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,240 Speaker 1: if I, you know, I've read part of the greatest 717 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: novel of Western literature, and I've you know, done free writing, 718 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: which I keep saying I want to do and strength 719 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: what I want to do, and I'm done in like 720 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. So it's really not that challenging a thing 721 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 1: to have done, and yet I feel that something. Yeah, 722 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: I just wanted to tie it in with the episode. 723 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh fun, Yes it is fun, and yes we have 724 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: been doing a deep dive into fun in this episode, 725 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: so hopefully people get some more ideas. We'd love to 726 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: hear how you have fun, especially in this pandemic era. 727 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: What you have figured out is fun for you, fun 728 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: for the whole family, fun for you and your partner. 729 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 1: If you have one fun for you and your friends, 730 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 1: you can let us know. Of course, always write us, 731 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: leave comments on our blogs, Instagram, Best of Both Worlds podcasts, 732 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: and we will be back next week with more on 733 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: making work in life fit together. Thanks for listening. You 734 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com or 735 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: at the Underscore shoe Box on Instagram, and you can 736 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has 737 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us 738 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: next time for more on making work and life work together.