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Speaker 2: back to the FED right now? Julia Cornado's perfect to

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Speaker 2: do that. President of macro Policy perspectives a major duty

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Speaker 2: at BMP Perry Bay in the trenches of the financial crisis.

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Speaker 2: Is well, Julie, I've gotten off the beat. Does the

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Speaker 2: economic data this week?

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Speaker 3: Game change? A data dependent FED?

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Speaker 4: Probably? Game change is too strong because they're meeting next

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Speaker 4: week and we already know that they're not going to

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Speaker 4: do anything, but they are going to give us some guidance.

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Speaker 4: They are going to give us a new forecast, and

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Speaker 4: they're going to we'll get a press conference, and so

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Speaker 4: it might help set the tone as to you know,

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Speaker 4: when we heard from Chaer Powell last week, he said,

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Speaker 4: it just needs a little bit more, just a little

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Speaker 4: bit more progress to confirm they're on the right track

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Speaker 4: and build their confidence before cutting rates. That doesn't sound

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Speaker 4: like a very high bar, but if we get a

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Speaker 4: setback in inflation, he might sound a little you know,

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Speaker 4: more on the stern side us versus on the hopeful side.

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Speaker 2: And now your inflation report for the day, and that

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Speaker 2: I followed carefully. The loadstone of my house, which is

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Speaker 2: a price of dog food. You know what it costs

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Speaker 2: you what it cost to do vet Bill and Kennell

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Speaker 2: fee up with a proper fancy upper east side dog

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Speaker 2: food has gone from twenty eight dollars to forty four

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Speaker 2: dollars over a good five to six pandemic years as well.

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Speaker 2: Juliet Coronado an update from doctor Coronado on the CPI.

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Speaker 4: Look, we have made a lot of progress, but in

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Speaker 4: the first quarter of the year we often get some

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Speaker 4: firmer prints. We saw that in January. We are going

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Speaker 4: to see probably a little bit more of that tomorrow

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Speaker 4: in the February report. We're looking for a point three

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Speaker 4: on core. That would still bring the annual rate down

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Speaker 4: a couple kits, but it would lead the three month

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Speaker 4: annualized rate up, So it would be kind of neither

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Speaker 4: here nor there. I think in terms of the FED,

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Speaker 4: it would not be particularly worrisome because you know, year

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Speaker 4: on year, we're still making progress, but it would all

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Speaker 4: also say there's no rush. And then you take that

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Speaker 4: with the Friday employment report. You know, I think that's

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Speaker 4: going to matter more Tom, the the jobs data. If

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Speaker 4: that shows signs of you know, the perfect goldilocks labor

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Speaker 4: conditions are starting to cool off a little bit, that

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Speaker 4: might give the FED more urgency versus if that continues.

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Speaker 4: And I would say Friday's employment report it was a

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Speaker 4: mixed bag. You know, the jobs number was strong, lots

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Speaker 4: of downward revisions, and a pretty notable uptick of the

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Speaker 4: you know, where we're getting closer to where those risks

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Speaker 2: And we'll talk about this on my podcast out now,

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Speaker 2: Single best idea look for that.

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Speaker 3: Later this afternoon, I'm going to talk to.

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Speaker 2: Doctor cornetto about annualized three month annualized twelve month annualized,

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Speaker 3: This, I know is foreign to you, Damien. Annualized is

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Speaker 3: very analzed thing.

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Speaker 5: Well, here for me show I mean, for me, it's

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Speaker 5: It's about inflation abroad. I mean, this week we also

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Speaker 4: Well, that's an excellent point. I mean, we have seen

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Speaker 4: it is across you know, across regions. So again we're

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Speaker 5: Well, Julia, we also see inflation data out of Sweden

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Speaker 5: I think the market's present pricing is something like a

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Speaker 5: forget about inflation though, I mean you mentioned Japan. I

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Speaker 5: want to talk about Japan and what we're seeing in

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, look, Japan has been both kind of

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Speaker 4: will we will we actually see a move? I am

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Speaker 4: they're going to keep evolving and rotating. Whether this is

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Speaker 4: the meeting, that's that's I'm certainly less component to put

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Speaker 3: That, right, Julie.

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Speaker 2: I take it back to the data this week in

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Speaker 2: retail sales, the consumers sixty eight sixty nine seventy seventy

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Speaker 2: tie in your GDP call right now with the actual

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Speaker 2: retail sales statistics three month annualize that we've.

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Speaker 3: Been seeing, the consumer is buoyant. Am I right?

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Speaker 4: Well, we saw some retrenchment in the January retail sales.

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Speaker 4: Remember we saw a decline in core retail sales. I

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Speaker 4: would say consumers have really kind of gone back to

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Speaker 4: They've got jobs, they've got income, and they're spending. But

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Speaker 4: what we hear, what we see in the inflation data,

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Speaker 4: what we hear anecdotally the Fed's Beige Books certainly shows

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Speaker 4: it right right. The consumers are price sensitive again. They

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Speaker 4: want to deal, Tom, they want to deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Julie, I'm running out of time. I don't mean

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Speaker 2: to be rude, but the it's root Monday in RESI,

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Speaker 2: doctor Cornado, is you're coming in with like a two

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, are you modeling out a subpart nominal GDP?

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Speaker 4: You know, Actually, we're kind of optimistic on the productivity

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Speaker 4: a better trend this cycle. So we've got GDP running

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Speaker 4: it's also the beauty of it is that it's non inflationary.

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Speaker 4: So this is solid growth that isn't necessarily inflationary that

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Speaker 4: and a half five percent zone, the sweet spot where

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Speaker 4: the Fed wants to see it. I think that's where

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Speaker 4: we're heading in the first half of this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was watching the Oscars last night, Julia, and

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Speaker 2: the answer is, nobody's on speaking terms.

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Speaker 3: Are you in Constance Hunter? And speaking terms? Is it

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Speaker 3: working out at macropolicy?

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Speaker 4: And I speak all the time? Really, we taxed, we speak,

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Speaker 4: we zoom, we do it all Tom all the four

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Speaker 4: Very good.

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Speaker 2: I saw a Constance Hunter with the Consul on Foreign

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Speaker 2: Relations the other day. Good to see macro policy perspectives

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Speaker 2: out on the streets of New York.

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Speaker 3: Julia Coronado there right now, and this is great.

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Speaker 2: It's sort of like the week after the employment it's

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Speaker 2: a little less there's some economic data this week, but

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Speaker 2: it's time to just like reassess the markets.

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Speaker 3: We did that with Brian Nick, with Francois Trahan and

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Speaker 3: now joining.

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Speaker 2: Us Michael Purvis of Tall Back and as well Damien's

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Speaker 2: got You know, folks, you got to see this in

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Speaker 2: the studio. You really can't see this on YouTube, but

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Speaker 2: you know, it's like Blomberg Business of Sports. You're worse

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Speaker 2: than Scarlet's bring in like thirty pages of notes.

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Speaker 6: I do, and I highlight everything. I'm a very big

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Speaker 2: I have is my coffee and donut message. There go, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: thank you. I mean look, I mean it's like Lisa's.

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Speaker 3: Taking a photo here for social of your When are

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Speaker 3: you doing this during the weekend?

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Speaker 5: I mean no, Actually I tried to wake up early

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Speaker 5: on the Monday morning. Okay, have a cup of coffee,

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Speaker 5: come in early and get ready to care.

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Speaker 3: You're building in purpose.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking to the architect from Columbia first, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Michael Purvers. How many people do we have a studied

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Speaker 2: architecture in school? What in God's name did they do

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Speaker 2: to Central Park South? They got billionaire's row. You get

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Speaker 2: this gorgeous tapestry in Manhattan like Paris? Yes, and instead

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Speaker 2: we put six seven, eight tall pointy skyscrapers. So Ken

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Speaker 7: Do you remember when the Aol Time Warner Building was

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Speaker 7: being built, a huge controversy. Look at that building now compared.

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Speaker 3: To those right buildings building, the.

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Speaker 7: Empire State Building is now looking cute, right, and the

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Speaker 7: Christier Building.

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Speaker 3: I look in promortion.

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Speaker 2: But to you, seriously, to you that have really studied

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Speaker 2: ginormous skyscrapers to balance it out.

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Speaker 7: Apparently someone in the city government decided it was you know,

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Speaker 7: I guess it brings in a lot of money and

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Speaker 7: it pays other bills.

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Speaker 5: But I think, yeah, no, I mean, look, you know,

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Speaker 5: we could talk about architecture all we want here, but

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Speaker 5: for me, it's all about the architecture of financial markets.

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Speaker 5: And within the architecture tom is volatility, which is you

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Speaker 5: like that? So I mean look for me, I mean

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Speaker 5: I look at volatility, but in all its forms, Michael,

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Speaker 5: as you do. You know there's fxvall which is really

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Speaker 5: really low. You've got equity ball and equity ball appears

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Speaker 5: to be ticking up. And during the break we were

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Speaker 5: talking a little bit about some of these ETFs, these

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Speaker 5: buy rite ETFs, these these kind of vol embedded ETFs.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if you could talk just a little bit

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Speaker 5: about what you're seeing there, the flows that have been

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Speaker 5: There's been a lot of flows going into that type

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Speaker 5: of product. How do you think that's impacting market? Is

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Speaker 5: that suppressing ball of current levels?

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Speaker 7: Well, I I think it does until it doesn't, right,

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Speaker 7: But you know, just as zoom, you know, step back

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Speaker 7: for a second. If you look at the rate of

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Speaker 7: cash equity volumes over the last fifteen twenty years, it's

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Speaker 7: been flat. If you look at the rate of option

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Speaker 7: it has been growing eight or nine percent every year,

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Speaker 7: and then over the last couple of years take that

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Speaker 7: up to you know, twenty five thirty percent. It has

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Speaker 7: been just extreme. And when you have this huge rise

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Speaker 7: of derivatives layered on top of very static cash volumes,

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Speaker 7: you're going to get weird distortions to market structure. Yeah. There,

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Speaker 7: and you know it was just when it was it

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Speaker 3: I want to rip up the scripture.

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Speaker 3: What is the market structure of bitcoin?

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Speaker 5: Well, Michael, I mean, you know, I'm an emerging market

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Speaker 5: dollar yen. I wonder if you could tell us a

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Look, I mean the the end certainly has been

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Speaker 7: you know, Damien one of the more interesting FX pairs

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Speaker 3: Purvose expertise. Which is market structure?

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Speaker 2: Which is gold is central bank buying versus retail's disinterest.

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Speaker 2: pulse on the Bloomberg folks might now Damien is doing math,

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Speaker 3: Expert at this.

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Speaker 2: Lisa and I are just looking at the blinky red

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Speaker 3: It's really scientific. Okay, what's the.

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Speaker 7: Well, look, I mean I think, you know, broadly speaking

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Speaker 2: Twenty seconds the Purvios SPX target here with this great one.

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Speaker 3: We've nailed it on that.

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Speaker 6: Do we get that on tape?

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Speaker 3: Richie.

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Speaker 2: We get that on tape Purvis with the Yardennis six thousand, Michael,

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Speaker 2: that was great and international relations, and we've been honored

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Speaker 2: Evangelist stent On with us recently on mister Putin. It

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Speaker 2: Aeral Cohen is at the Atlantic Council and very quietly

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Speaker 3: That is extraordinary.

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Speaker 2: You can go back to his book Russian Imperialism, Development

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Speaker 1: As you know, Russian imperialism didn't start with Leazimir Putin.

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Speaker 6: Russian imperialism started.

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Speaker 6: They paid their taxes in pelts, in hers.

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Speaker 6: They captured.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Russia had two very brief periods of

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Speaker 6: The second eventually was executed with his family.

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Speaker 6: Really elected by popular will.

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Speaker 3: Just because of time, we got to get this in.

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Speaker 2: I got to squeeze in this one last question, doctor Coen,

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Speaker 1: this markets, all this blah blah about how they're going

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Speaker 1: In reality, Utsin created the hugest self inflicted wound for

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Speaker 2: Got to leave it there, Doctor Cohen, Thank you so much,

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Speaker 2: Eric Cohen, thought provoking in Russia with the Putin election

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Speaker 3: Of course, last night the.

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Speaker 3: But let's be honest.

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Speaker 8: Juntos beautifully said. You see he's not such a bad bunny.

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Speaker 3: Happy birthday, brother, Good ass ya, Thank you.

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Speaker 8: International films enrich our cultural understanding by broadening our perspectives

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Speaker 8: of the world and each other. Here are the nominees

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Speaker 8: for International Feature Film.

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Speaker 3: The Rock and then it was downhill from there. He

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Speaker 3: got best tuxedo.

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Speaker 2: By the way, is well Lisa Mateo, way in here

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Speaker 2: now the rock made in early you appearance and I

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Speaker 2: thought that.

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Speaker 5: Was University of Miami grad.

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Speaker 9: Oh that's right, football.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you play football?

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Speaker 3: Did you tune in last night?

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Speaker 9: I was sleeping by like seven, it was still light out.

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Speaker 9: That was a problem with his daylight saving thing. I

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Speaker 9: totally agree, totally still daylight. But I missed that one,

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Speaker 9: but I heard about it, so I went to watch

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Speaker 9: go on to the rest.

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Speaker 7: I have to do that.

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Speaker 9: And I also saw a naked John Cena that kind

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Speaker 9: of came out.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I got a note from many years ago. He's

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Speaker 2: been a fan of the show. Really was dressed when

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Speaker 2: he wrote the note.

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Speaker 9: Hopefully, well maybe not.

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Speaker 3: Some people here thought it didn't really work. Did you think?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 5: I don't keep score, but for me, if I I

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Speaker 5: guess was keeping score. I only saw that Netflix won

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Speaker 5: one award and Apple got shut out.

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Speaker 6: Did you hear that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? My god, that Comcast. Congratulations to Universal and mister Robertson.

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Speaker 2: The Comcast crew for having a act of that night.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to you at the newspapers Lisa, what do

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Speaker 2: you all.

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Speaker 9: Right, So we're starting with surge pricing coming to more

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Speaker 9: restaurant menus. All right, So we have these technology providers

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Speaker 9: they're pitching these services allowed restaurants to change their prices weekly, monthly,

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Speaker 9: depending on demand. Remember Wendy's got in trouble that customers

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Speaker 9: had this outcry against it because they tried to do

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Speaker 9: They were talking about maybe doing something like this. But

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Speaker 9: these technology companies, they're putting out the software. Some companies

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Speaker 9: are starting to see actually profits from this. The Wall

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Speaker 9: Street Journal Cali Barbecue, they boosted its monthly delivery sales

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Speaker 9: by fifteen hundred dollars by doing that. By adding this

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Speaker 9: surge surge pricing, Dave and Busters are doing it. Some

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Speaker 9: people aren't Apples. They're not doing it though.

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Speaker 5: Wait waiting a little bit longer to get your pulled

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Speaker 5: porks now, which it's got to be healthy. IDs sit

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Speaker 5: out there in the sun for a little bit while.

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Speaker 2: If you guys said brunch at the Breakers this weekend

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Speaker 2: in Florida, you rang up. It was like seven hundred

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Speaker 2: dollars for two people.

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Speaker 5: You know, your bloody Mary at the Breakers cost forty dollars.

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Speaker 9: There you go, right, Brooklyn making history. Yes, they have

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Speaker 9: the first all electric residential building in New York City.

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Speaker 9: So that means no gas stoves. The heating, hot water,

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Speaker 9: that's going to be electric too. It's forty four stories,

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Speaker 9: four hundred and forty units.

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Speaker 7: It has a rooftop.

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Speaker 9: Pool, it has a terrace, it has a GM retail stores.

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Speaker 7: Well, the apartments all electric.

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Speaker 9: Do you want to know how much it's going to

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Speaker 9: cost a studio thirty five hundred dollars a month. We

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Speaker 9: have a one bedroom, two bedroom going for about eight

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Speaker 9: thousand a month. That's and a three bedroom eleven two

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Speaker 9: hundred dollars a month.

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Speaker 7: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to New York, Welcome to Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: Thirty seconds here right now, guest stover electric. You take

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Speaker 2: my guest stove away?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I get upset my mother. I was just going

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Speaker 5: to say that my mom has an electric stove. She's

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Speaker 5: been renting leasing a place down in Florida right now,

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Speaker 5: and she cannot cook on it. She hates it's electric.

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Speaker 5: She's out.

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Speaker 3: There's new ones. I guess I don't know, wicked, wicked

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Speaker 3: old school. Of course, I know it's a hot thing.

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Speaker 9: You go, yes, okay, here we go. NBA looking to

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Speaker 9: expand their europe options. Damon, you probably know more about

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Speaker 9: this what I mean, but these are ongoing discussion between

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Speaker 9: the NBA. You have the International Basketball Federation, the euro League.

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Speaker 9: They're trying to figure out how to grow basketball over

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Speaker 9: in Europe, right, So they've been talking about this, but

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Speaker 9: for the first time, the NBA actually considering options that

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Speaker 9: could exclude the euro League. So Sportico is saying that

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Speaker 9: could include a new standalone NBA europe League. I don't

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Speaker 9: I guess it was more talent over in Europe.

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Speaker 4: That is that the I guess.

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Speaker 5: So, I mean, look, they are looking for more talent,

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Speaker 5: and certainly if you look at the recent drafts, I mean,

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Speaker 5: all of the top players are coming from Europe. But

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Speaker 5: I think it's more about trying to expand awareness, not

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Speaker 5: necessarily in Europe, but in Africa as well, in the

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Speaker 5: Middle East and some of these other hard to reach places.

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Speaker 5: And I think that might be the.

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Speaker 3: Basis for this. For this particular.

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Speaker 9: Monday, No, it was Oscar Oh, we forgot to talk

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Speaker 9: about I am Ken or I'm just Ken, the performance

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Speaker 9: by Ryan Gosling at the Oscars that yes, I saw

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Speaker 9: the replay of it. He had the pink cowboy hat,

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Speaker 9: the whole pink rhinestone studded outfit.

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Speaker 1: But it was really good.

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Speaker 4: But he was raving about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they weren't suwer No Barbia well BHILLI Eilish,

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Speaker 3: you know she did she did?

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Speaker 2: You know she did a Barbie song as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're going to go back now and watch a rock

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Speaker 2: for the fourteenth. So I am silver Tuxedo.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a reach.

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Speaker 6: It was fan very handsome.

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Speaker 4: I love that.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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