WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Michael Jordan Turns 62! 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:03.560 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.400 Sports Radio. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:08.080 True pleasure to fill in for the great Dan Patrick. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.720 Pleasure for us anyway now, Cavino, Rich, Fox Sports Radio 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:17.480 President's Day and uh hey, first president to throw out 0:00:17.480 --> 0:00:22.560 a first pitch? You know who it is, George Bush 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:24.119 to do a perfect strike? Was he the first to 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:24.640 throw a strike? 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:27.400 It was Taft because he was hanging out with Babe 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.120 Ruth eating hot dogs. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.960 Bro very good, Danny G. Taft was the first president 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.400 to start the tradition. I thought he was the first 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:37.960 to eat hot dogs with bait with the babe. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.280 Did he also gets sticking a bet of the fat ass? 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:41.920 A lot of first with Taft. 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.440 Well, hey, it's President's Day. A lot of people have off. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.360 If you're stuck working today, either your boss hates your 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:49.560 or make that double time or something right. Well, I 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:54.000 hope you had a nice holiday weekend. Happy Valentine's Day weekend. Again. 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.320 We're Covino and Rich at Covino and Rich coov I, 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:02.480 n O Coveno and Rich Davis, and we're on two 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:06.080 to four out here on the West Monday through Friday, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:08.440 five to seven on the East. We have a bonus 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.400 podcast too called over promise that you could watch on 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:14.440 Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page, but search it wherever you 0:01:14.440 --> 0:01:17.039 stream your podcast. Covino and rich Or over promised. We 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:19.720 appreciate that. Rich to wrap up the first hour of 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.760 trying to figure out why don't I care? Because you 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:25.720 never want to feel like something's wrong with you. I 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:28.080 think that's where it first starts, like is it me? 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.959 Why don't I care the way other people seem to care? 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.920 Does everybody not care? And then you go to social media, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.200 you run the X to see what other people are saying, 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:40.640 and you realize, Wow, it seems like everybody's saying it sucked. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.360 Even the players, and Trey Young and Draymond Green are 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.080 saying the All Star weekend suck. I think it comes 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.600 down to again transitional stage. They're figuring it out. The 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:52.920 game has changed. We have lots of options, but we 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:56.760 also don't really invest in anything that feels like an exhibition. 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.240 So when the players feel like they're not playing and 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.800 they don't care, it's like the Pro Bowl, Like the 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.000 NFL is still a great product. Did you care about 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:04.840 the Pro Bowl? 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:05.120 No? 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.600 Because they don't care. They're playing patty Cake, And that's 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:10.639 kind of what happened with the NBA All Star Game. 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.079 They don't seem to care, but really that much, even 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.280 though Trey Young is like, yo, we want to play. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:19.320 Yeah, but that's starting to happen with the NBA regular season, right. 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.960 And when it starts to feel like an exhibition, like hey, 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.639 do they even care, then it's hard. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:25.320 For you to care, you know, not not just All 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:25.920 Star weekend. 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.680 But you know, again, if if you didn't hear Draymond 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:31.520 when you got one of the stars of the game 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.120 talking about how he doesn't care, then. 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:38.160 Then what are we doing here? Then you listen, you work. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.079 All year to be an All Star and you get 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:42.680 to play up to forty and then you're done. This 0:02:42.840 --> 0:02:45.519 is so unfair to Victor win Miyama who just took 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.600 this game really seriously, Shay Gilges Alexander who just took 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.360 this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing after 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:54.200 the points, Wreckers Mellow and Kobe and all these guys 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:57.200 who've had great starring Knights, they don't get the opportunity 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.880 to do that with this game. Also, we can watch 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.480 some rising stars. Were about to watch the Olympic team. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.840 Now we get to treat of watching the Olympic team 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.880 play against the U nineteen team. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.079 Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten? 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:13.920 Your thoughts of the format ten being the best? Yes, 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:15.880 A zero sucks. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.120 Zero suck. Thanks to Draymond for endorsing your own product. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.520 And Trey Young even said that, to be honest, I 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:26.600 didn't like it at all as far as how it 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.320 all panned out and worked over the weekend. And that's fine. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.800 You gotta take chances, got to figure it out. We're 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.720 just again not complaining explaining. 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:36.360 Yeah, I mean. 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:40.200 Everyone, everyone has been trying to, you know, figure figure 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:44.280 this out. Adam Silvers, you know, has a tough job 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.680 of all the answers sort of being things that mean 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.400 less money, meaning less games, maybe less playoff teams. Don't 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:54.360 think those things will never happen because that just means 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.680 less revenue. And then I asked, you, do we just 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.040 need some NBA start to do something we've never seen, 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:04.280 meaning the way Michael Jordan flew through the air or 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.720 the way Steph Curry was hitting, you know, half court threes. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.760 Does a young player need to do something different in 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.560 the game that no one's ever done before? 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.480 But what's left? 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.960 What's left? What could someone do that no one's ever 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:25.400 done before. Thanks, think about that right NBA. By the way, DANYG, 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:29.800 what were your thoughts? You're the resident Laker but hardcore 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:31.440 NBA fans supporter. 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:33.400 Did you call me a Lakers butt? 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:33.640 Yeah? 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:33.719 What? 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.520 Did you live Lakers? Yeah? 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.960 But yes, yeah, I mean I'm you guys are casual 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.960 NBA fans, so I'm more of a basketball fan than 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:45.440 you guys are. I thought it was okay. I mean 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:46.880 I would give it a five out of ten right 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:48.680 now because they still got to work the kinks out. 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:51.719 So I'm curious to see how it is laid out 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:55.600 for next season and if some stars get their butts 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:58.840 into the Slam Dunk contest, because that would change that. 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.240 That's what as a little kid drew me to the 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.920 league for All Star Weekend. I wanted to see high 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:09.279 flying action. I wanted to see Dominique and Jordan and 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:14.200 Spud Webb. And then a little bit later you're in 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.560 New York, Knickerbocker, you know who I'm talking about with 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.640 the windmill in the high top fade. There were so 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.719 many great stars and then guys who turned out to 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:27.520 be borderline stars because they were in some of these competitions. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:30.920 So I understand what Raymond's saying. But at the same time, 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.480 Rich You've been ranting on we need to know who 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.720 these youngsters are, and so they are getting some exposures. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.600 So we got to find a compromise here or something 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:39.120 in the middle. 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.760 I wonder if it's all ego based. I mean, and 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:45.200 you're gonna be like, yeah, of course, it is, like, 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:49.320 why aren't the stars participating in these contests? Well, nay. 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.599 The story was Giannis and John rant were chirping on 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.960 social media like, Yo, we gotta do this next year. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:55.800 I'm in if you're in. 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.320 But it takes mac McClung winning a third time for 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.719 them to react acting for them to get into this competition. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.320 Yeah, and if you're super casual, he's a G League 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:11.159 star who the stat was kind of interesting over the weekend. 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.000 He's made one hundred and thirty two thousand in his 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:16.560 NBA career in his full NBA career since like twenty 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:20.360 twenty one, one hundred and thirty two thousand, in his 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.359 slam dunk earnings three hundred and ten thousand. That's insane 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:28.040 that a guy that you know is a non factor 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.320 in the NBA is the guy that you're three time 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:31.080 dunk champion. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.719 It just seems it seems silly to me. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:34.680 That's all part of it, though, Yeah, it is. 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.520 Yeah, he should at least get to come off the 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.080 magic bench. You know, I was talking about that high 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:41.240 top fade. Rich, you had one of those back when 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.080 you lived in New York, like Kenny Skywalker. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.680 That was the haircut h the two lines in it. 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.080 It's just it's wild to think that ego would keep 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.480 all these guys out of it. Well, anyway, Covino on 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.360 Rich Fox Sports Radio. Now before we get to. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:59.920 Danny G's boy, Lebron started that, before we get to 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.720 a big birthday today in the world of sports and 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.240 some baseball baseball starting up baseball seat up people are 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:09.880 reporting to camp. I have a question, and it's more 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.440 of a random hypothetical. I saw people debating this on 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:20.640 social media. Do you find it acceptable? Well, you know, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.760 if everyone does their traveling, it's a holiday weekend, is 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:28.720 it acceptable to climb over someone in the middle seat 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:32.200 on a plane? What do you mean if you are 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.200 supposed to use no if you're in the window seat, yeah, 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:42.560 and a stranger is next to you in the middle seat, Yeah. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:43.720 And they're sleeping in the middle seat. 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:46.640 Do you give them a little nudge like I'm waking up? 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:49.400 Or do you try to do the I'm gonna climb 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:52.840 over a stranger while they're sleeping. Well, yeah, you can 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.840 do that. I try. You try to squeeze by without 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:56.560 waking them up. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.400 That's when you hide with your jacket and you yurinate 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:00.240 into a big. 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:01.520 Is that what you do, Daddy? 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:01.960 No? 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.120 I but there was a big debate on social media. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:06.560 I mean that's how this weekend was. You know, it 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:08.960 was all NBA All Star at SNL fifty. But I 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:12.680 did see people debating this, and I did wonder, can 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:17.120 you climb over a stranger? Because think about that. Your 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.360 options are either to wake the person up, You're you're saying, 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.040 assuming they're sleeping, right, Yeah, of course if they wake 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:27.080 the person up, or try to like shimmy by them. 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:30.560 I think you're a school boy if you're like standing 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.480 on the seat trying to like hurdle them. Yeah, you 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.520 try to shimmy buy them or or wake them up. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:41.240 Those are your only options. Play it accordingly, man, Is 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:44.400 it intrusive to that? Game must have been really boring 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.599 If this is what people were debating, is it intrusive 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.760 to like hover your body over a stranger that if 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.280 they wake up and you're right over them. I mean, 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.720 pet your dandy in the window seat, right, they're doing 0:08:56.800 --> 0:09:00.160 what you gotta do in that situation. If you in 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:02.280 the middle seat, would you appreciate someone trying to climb 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.959 over you or wake you up? Hey, dude, that's why 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:07.880 you got the middle sea. That's why nobody wants it. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.840 That's like the price you pay snooze, you lose. Nobody 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.880 wants the middle seat because of those reasons. Thought, I 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.880 throw it out there something I saw over the weekend 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.040 because people, it's a matter how limber and agile is 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.520 that person trying to hurtle over you? Yeah? You know, 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:30.240 is it some uh, some big hairy fella breathe my friends, 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.199 Bartolo cologne? That's Jacke. Yeah, is this some hot little 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:37.320 chippy and yoga pants? You know, give me the cio 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.640 give me. I was like, straddle over me then yeah, 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.400 if it's Bartolo Cologne. I'm a little like annoyed by 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:46.240 throwing it out there. Now today the big birthday, the 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.760 big birthday in the world of sports. I don't want 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:50.040 you to. 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:54.760 Feel too old but Michael Jordan turned sixty two today. 0:09:56.040 --> 0:10:01.000 MJ is sixty two. And there's two layers to this question. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.240 Layer one, is he the. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.440 Most popular forget athlete? Is he the most popular guy 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:15.679 in the last fifty years on planet Earth? And then 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:16.400 part two of the. 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:23.760 Question, is it possible that in all sports baseball, basketball, football, tennis, hockey, 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:30.280 you name it, will there ever be a brand bigger 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.600 than the one created by Michael Jordan. Okay, you said 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:38.640 in the last fifty years, that's nineteen seventy four, So 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.720 the answer is going to have to be seventy five. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:45.040 The answer is going to have to be no to that, 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.520 because I'm not talking about just sports, I'm talking about 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.440 talking worldwide, right, So you have to pick an international 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:59.280 sport that would probably be like a Ronaldo or even fighting, 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.800 you know, a Mikeer Muhammad Ali, because it was at 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:06.920 least international. NBA was not international. The brand is is 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.640 now international and we all love it. But think of 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:14.800 the movie with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. What was 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.240 it called Air? Yeah, I mean I was in the eighties, 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:26.760 so by the time it became an international monster, it 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.880 was long past fifty years ago, or before fifty years. Yeah, 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:32.680 I mean, I'm just saying I think give you said 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.800 if you were to say nineteen seventy five to twenty 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.480 twenty five, I'm not even talking with sports. I'm saying, 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:41.760 on planet Earth, is there a more popular guy who 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.520 said in the past fifty years, past fifty years, Muhammad 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:50.960 Ali was past his prime. No, in seventy five, No, 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.040 late seventies, he was just fighting in the eighties. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:55.400 So you think, so you think Muhammad Ali is the answer. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:59.640 Then I'm saying Jordan has surpassed all of that, But 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:05.839 there has been other people internationally that were superstars and 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:09.520 maybe just as big now with the sneaker brand, which 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:12.079 I didn't have my first Jordan's until like eighty five, right, 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.080 I was in like fifth sixth grade or something like that. 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.439 Then it became an international thing. So there's been other 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.880 people's my point, but you know, fast forward now, Yeah, 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:27.640 your answer is dead on, spot on, And it seems 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.120 like no one will ever be as big because the 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.000 Jordan brand is so huge. But there has to be 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.800 someone or something that comes along again and he's that 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:41.560 next Jordan's. He's a lifetime, once in a lifetime kind 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.000 of guy. But you know, once our lifetime is over. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:46.880 There'll be someone else. I don't know. And I say 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:51.480 that because other athletes have had successful sneakers. You know 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.840 lebron Kady Steph as Shack had his sneaker brand and 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.480 still does. All these guys have successfully done it, but 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.880 they all pale in comparison to the billion dollar industry. 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.080 Is the Jordan branch of Nike and everything? 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:08.240 So seven billion dollars. By the way, you got to. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:11.200 Ask yourself, is there a baseball player, if Otani or 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:12.840 who's the face of baseball? You know? 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.120 No, you think it would have to be an international 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.960 star like our grandkid's gonna say, oh, I got my 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:22.000 Otani's on. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:22.440 Yep. 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:24.719 The world's a bigger place or a smaller place, I 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:27.800 should say now, and it'll be a guy like Otani. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.640 I'm not saying it is Otani, but it'll be a 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:34.960 guy like Otaniani is the new Babe Ruth. There's gonna 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.679 be a new Jordan. Yeah, but Otani if he came 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.920 out with his own line of cleats and batting gloves 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.920 and all baseball gear, I don't think every little boy 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:46.679 and girl will be like, I need my otanis. They 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.000 also have to be fired too. It's a perfect storm. 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.000 The Jordan's for kids. I know, the famous clip of 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.360 David Letterman talking about how ugly they were? Are you 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:01.320 serious about these things? Kids loved them. They were fire 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.000 and they're legendary still we still wear the same ones 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.320 from eighty four eighty five. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.760 Yeah, all Lettermen and that generation were used to were 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.679 boring basic Converse. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:17.880 Right your white tennis sneaker, right, your basic Converse shoe. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.600 It's almost because Michael Jordan, and much like anything in 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.520 all businesses, it's the person that takes the big chance 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:28.800 that has the biggest payoff, him going with Nike, which 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:30.560 at the time was like a you know, like a 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:35.560 not failing but a pretty mid level running shoe company. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.520 By him doing that, maybe that's the perfect storm because 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.200 on his sixty second birthday it is. And it also 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:46.680 built to the allure and mystique and legend of Air 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:50.520 Jordan that there were other basketball players that endorse sneakers, 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.960 Converse and stuff like that. But is it just simply 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:56.880 Michael Jordan was the first guy to really brand his 0:14:57.080 --> 0:15:01.320 own shoe to that level, and no one will ever compare, 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:06.480 whether it's Steph or Lie Lebron's career could compare. People 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.040 debate that till this day. Think about the sneaker. Think 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.800 of all the sneakers that have debuted in the NBA, 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:16.000 all the stars of the league. They have millions of 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.440 kids buying their sneaker, but nothing compares to a Jordan. 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.520 And like even in baseball, I've recently been buying a 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.960 lot of equipment. My kids are getting more involved in 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:28.680 their little league and stuff. Not to hi mind Jordan's career, 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.640 but the shoe was fire, So that helped, right, It 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:34.480 definitely helped, and it changed the game, and he marketed 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:37.240 the hell out of it. The dude had gatorade, jingles 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:42.280 and everything else. So, I mean Lebron's career rivals Jordan's 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:49.840 his sneaker doesn't was Was Michael Jordan just the perfect 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:53.400 guy at the perfect time and everything lined up like 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.160 the fact that he was the most talented winner while 0:15:56.160 --> 0:15:58.600 at the same time also happened to be alive in 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:01.040 a time where they took chance on Hey, maybe a 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:03.240 basketball play with his own sneaker is a good idea. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.000 Was it just the perfect storm that no one will 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:10.880 ever compete? Yeah, he also delivered. He was slamming from 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.600 the foul line with the sneaker on. You know, so 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.960 that also helps. Like, think about it. You think that 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.000 Facebook and Instagram and TikTok, you think those are the 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:24.200 only social media attempts. There's clearly other companies that were like, 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.080 oh no, we'll be the next social media and see, 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.440 everything's got to line up perfectly. And I think Michael 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.240 Jordan on his sixty second birthday, you could argue, in 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.680 the last fifty years, might be the most popular human 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.960 on earth and no one will ever have a bigger 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:42.240 sports brand. Think about it, Tennis, bowling, hockey, baseball, basketball. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:44.960 Is there ever gonna be a guy who sells billions 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:51.800 of dollars of their logo? You know, it just sounds impossible, right, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:56.640 We're a blip on the radar the timeline of life. 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.720 You don't think there is going to be some guy 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:05.040 in thirty twenty five where again he surpasses that. I mean, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.080 you know maybe in our lifetime for sure. Ever, no, 0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.879 most popular in the last fifty years. Yeah, you know 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.800 what that that's a great debate. I would say you're 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.080 probably right because of the brand at this point. I mean, 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.960 Tom Brady's a huge brand with TB twelve and everything 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:25.160 he represents. Shack does a Shack does a million endorsements. 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:30.000 Everybody knows the Jumpman logo, everybody knows the shoe internationally, 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:33.280 you know, not everybody got to see him play, so 0:17:33.320 --> 0:17:37.040 the legacy still lives on. It's crazy perspective community. That 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:44.359 would be like Joe Montana, right having a branded cleat 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:47.360 or football equipment that till this day, people are still 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.119 talking like, oh, Mahomes is wearing the Montanas like it. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.359 You know what I'm saying. It just seems ridiculous that 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.440 these young stars, the Marinos, they their stars in their 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:59.560 own regard, yet they're still wearing Jordan branded stuff. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.240 I just think he is. He's that one guy. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:06.360 And yeah, maybe our grandparents would say what Babe Ruth 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.480 did for baseball, the fact that he was like a 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.280 larger than life, almost cartoon character, the type of guy, 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:14.080 the way they describe him, I think. 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.120 Most popular in the past fifty years. 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:18.760 I'll give you that one, right, I was just throwing 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:22.560 out other names in the past fifty years internationally. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:22.800 He's say one hundred. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:25.000 Maybe Muhammad Ali is the only one that rivals them. No, 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:29.760 because again we're thinking America based. It eventually became international 0:18:29.800 --> 0:18:33.280 with the shoe brand NBA. No one cared about internationally 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:37.000 at that time, Right, can anyone compete? I'd have to 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:42.760 say yeah, probably because of international celebrity now and superstars 0:18:42.800 --> 0:18:47.720 in the soccer game and even baseball, so I will 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.960 say yeah, And I mean, obviously NBA it's an international 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:55.480 sport now, so the opportunity for this to happen is 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:59.919 there on a much larger scale. I would say, evnch. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.520 But again, it was a if you were trying to dissect, 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.600 well how did that happen? It was a perfect store 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.239 of austome. He delivered, he won, he was great, and 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:13.760 no shoes were dope you needed, and they marketed it perfectly, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.800 like so everything. You could argue the same about a 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.040 lot of things, like something as silly as Kelly Clarkson. 0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:20.280 Right. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.560 I saw a meme that said, we got American Idol 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.120 right the first time. We didn't need the twenty five 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.720 more seasons. Like to think about how she was the 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:34.399 first winner of a singing reality show and you know, 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.080 she's as big a star now as ever before. Sometimes 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:42.920 it's the perfect storm of talent and timing and everything 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.640 that I think it's hard to argue that anyone can 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:50.639 anyone compete if if Ronaldo had some fire sneakers that 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.520 translated internationally for everybody in casual use and where, but 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:57.760 those guys all had their primarily and it didn't happen. 0:19:57.800 --> 0:19:59.720 I met that type of guy. Look at his social 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:03.560 media following. You don't think someone with international fame like 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:06.040 that could compete in the future. I do, but it would. 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:08.919 They would be an Otani type and it would need 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.119 he just needs a shoe. Covid would need to be 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.159 a sporto that translates in the United States. Not that 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:15.959 we dictate everything, but you can't call something the biggest 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:18.280 in the world pop culture wise if it's not popular 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.920 in the US and soccer fluteball just doesn't translate on 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:25.080 that grand of scale where the NBA internationally is only 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.040 getting bigger and bigger. So I think if Jordan's not 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:29.880 the answer, I would love to hear who you think 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:31.920 it is. At eight seven, seven nine nine on Fox 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:36.520 on his sixty second birthday? Is Michael Jordan one of one? Essentially? 0:20:36.520 --> 0:20:39.200 It's amazing. Yeah, if you have little kids in your life, 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:42.920 they still want Jordan's They still talk about I bought 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.160 my nephew pair of Jordan's for Christmas that he wanted. 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:49.080 I mean, you obviously know how popular the brand is. Cool, 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:52.080 Uncle Steve buying an eight year old Jordan's and he 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.320 appreciates it. He's eight, right, they know that jump man logo. 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.840 So the question is is he the most popular in 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.560 the past fifty years? Because he's sixty too, and we're 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:03.040 still buying his shoes and talking about the guy? And 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.760 can anyone ever compete with that sort of fame and fortune? 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:07.600 What would it have to be? 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:07.800 Like? 0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:09.760 Describe the scenario? Would it have to be. 0:21:11.119 --> 0:21:16.000 Like such an elite guy like Mahomes almost three repeated 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.760 you know Wash, you know, one bad game away from 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:20.920