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Speaker 2: True pleasure to fill in for the great Dan Patrick.
Speaker 2: Pleasure for us anyway now, Cavino, Rich, Fox Sports Radio
Speaker 2: President's Day and uh hey, first president to throw out
Speaker 2: a first pitch? You know who it is, George Bush
Speaker 2: to do a perfect strike? Was he the first to
Speaker 2: throw a strike?
Speaker 3: It was Taft because he was hanging out with Babe
Speaker 3: Ruth eating hot dogs.
Speaker 2: Bro very good, Danny G. Taft was the first president
Speaker 2: to start the tradition. I thought he was the first
Speaker 2: to eat hot dogs with bait with the babe.
Speaker 4: Did he also gets sticking a bet of the fat ass?
Speaker 3: A lot of first with Taft.
Speaker 4: Well, hey, it's President's Day. A lot of people have off.
Speaker 2: If you're stuck working today, either your boss hates your
Speaker 2: or make that double time or something right. Well, I
Speaker 2: hope you had a nice holiday weekend. Happy Valentine's Day weekend. Again.
Speaker 2: We're Covino and Rich at Covino and Rich coov I,
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Speaker 2: appreciate that. Rich to wrap up the first hour of
Speaker 2: trying to figure out why don't I care? Because you
Speaker 2: never want to feel like something's wrong with you. I
Speaker 2: think that's where it first starts, like is it me?
Speaker 2: Why don't I care the way other people seem to care?
Speaker 2: Does everybody not care? And then you go to social media,
Speaker 2: you run the X to see what other people are saying,
Speaker 2: and you realize, Wow, it seems like everybody's saying it sucked.
Speaker 2: Even the players, and Trey Young and Draymond Green are
Speaker 2: saying the All Star weekend suck. I think it comes
Speaker 2: down to again transitional stage. They're figuring it out. The
Speaker 2: game has changed. We have lots of options, but we
Speaker 2: also don't really invest in anything that feels like an exhibition.
Speaker 2: So when the players feel like they're not playing and
Speaker 2: they don't care, it's like the Pro Bowl, Like the
Speaker 2: NFL is still a great product. Did you care about
Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Because they don't care. They're playing patty Cake, And that's
Speaker 2: kind of what happened with the NBA All Star Game.
Speaker 2: They don't seem to care, but really that much, even
Speaker 2: though Trey Young is like, yo, we want to play.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's starting to happen with the NBA regular season, right.
Speaker 2: And when it starts to feel like an exhibition, like hey,
Speaker 2: do they even care, then it's hard.
Speaker 4: For you to care, you know, not not just All
Speaker 4: Star weekend.
Speaker 2: But you know, again, if if you didn't hear Draymond
Speaker 2: when you got one of the stars of the game
Speaker 2: talking about how he doesn't care, then.
Speaker 4: Then what are we doing here? Then you listen, you work.
Speaker 5: All year to be an All Star and you get
Speaker 5: to play up to forty and then you're done. This
Speaker 5: is so unfair to Victor win Miyama who just took
Speaker 5: this game really seriously, Shay Gilges Alexander who just took
Speaker 5: this game really seriously. When you talk about chasing after
Speaker 5: the points, Wreckers Mellow and Kobe and all these guys
Speaker 5: who've had great starring Knights, they don't get the opportunity
Speaker 5: to do that with this game. Also, we can watch
Speaker 5: some rising stars. Were about to watch the Olympic team.
Speaker 5: Now we get to treat of watching the Olympic team
Speaker 5: play against the U nineteen team.
Speaker 2: Come on, what are we doing all of one to ten?
Speaker 3: Your thoughts of the format ten being the best? Yes,
Speaker 3: A zero sucks.
Speaker 2: Zero suck. Thanks to Draymond for endorsing your own product.
Speaker 2: And Trey Young even said that, to be honest, I
Speaker 2: didn't like it at all as far as how it
Speaker 2: all panned out and worked over the weekend. And that's fine.
Speaker 2: You gotta take chances, got to figure it out. We're
Speaker 2: just again not complaining explaining.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Everyone, everyone has been trying to, you know, figure figure
Speaker 2: this out. Adam Silvers, you know, has a tough job
Speaker 2: of all the answers sort of being things that mean
Speaker 2: less money, meaning less games, maybe less playoff teams. Don't
Speaker 2: think those things will never happen because that just means
Speaker 2: less revenue. And then I asked, you, do we just
Speaker 2: need some NBA start to do something we've never seen,
Speaker 2: meaning the way Michael Jordan flew through the air or
Speaker 2: the way Steph Curry was hitting, you know, half court threes.
Speaker 2: Does a young player need to do something different in
Speaker 2: the game that no one's ever done before?
Speaker 4: But what's left?
Speaker 2: What's left? What could someone do that no one's ever
Speaker 2: done before. Thanks, think about that right NBA. By the way, DANYG,
Speaker 2: what were your thoughts? You're the resident Laker but hardcore
Speaker 2: NBA fans supporter.
Speaker 3: Did you call me a Lakers butt?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: Did you live Lakers? Yeah?
Speaker 3: But yes, yeah, I mean I'm you guys are casual
Speaker 3: NBA fans, so I'm more of a basketball fan than
Speaker 3: you guys are. I thought it was okay. I mean
Speaker 3: I would give it a five out of ten right
Speaker 3: now because they still got to work the kinks out.
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see how it is laid out
Speaker 3: for next season and if some stars get their butts
Speaker 3: into the Slam Dunk contest, because that would change that.
Speaker 3: That's what as a little kid drew me to the
Speaker 3: league for All Star Weekend. I wanted to see high
Speaker 3: flying action. I wanted to see Dominique and Jordan and
Speaker 3: Spud Webb. And then a little bit later you're in
Speaker 3: New York, Knickerbocker, you know who I'm talking about with
Speaker 3: the windmill in the high top fade. There were so
Speaker 3: many great stars and then guys who turned out to
Speaker 3: be borderline stars because they were in some of these competitions.
Speaker 3: So I understand what Raymond's saying. But at the same time,
Speaker 3: Rich You've been ranting on we need to know who
Speaker 3: these youngsters are, and so they are getting some exposures.
Speaker 3: So we got to find a compromise here or something
Speaker 3: in the middle.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it's all ego based. I mean, and
Speaker 2: you're gonna be like, yeah, of course, it is, like,
Speaker 2: why aren't the stars participating in these contests? Well, nay.
Speaker 2: The story was Giannis and John rant were chirping on
Speaker 2: social media like, Yo, we gotta do this next year.
Speaker 2: I'm in if you're in.
Speaker 3: But it takes mac McClung winning a third time for
Speaker 3: them to react acting for them to get into this competition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you're super casual, he's a G League
Speaker 2: star who the stat was kind of interesting over the weekend.
Speaker 2: He's made one hundred and thirty two thousand in his
Speaker 2: NBA career in his full NBA career since like twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, one hundred and thirty two thousand, in his
Speaker 2: slam dunk earnings three hundred and ten thousand. That's insane
Speaker 2: that a guy that you know is a non factor
Speaker 2: in the NBA is the guy that you're three time
Speaker 2: dunk champion.
Speaker 4: It just seems it seems silly to me.
Speaker 2: That's all part of it, though, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he should at least get to come off the
Speaker 3: magic bench. You know, I was talking about that high
Speaker 3: top fade. Rich, you had one of those back when
Speaker 3: you lived in New York, like Kenny Skywalker.
Speaker 4: That was the haircut h the two lines in it.
Speaker 4: It's just it's wild to think that ego would keep
Speaker 4: all these guys out of it. Well, anyway, Covino on
Speaker 4: Rich Fox Sports Radio. Now before we get to.
Speaker 2: Danny G's boy, Lebron started that, before we get to
Speaker 2: a big birthday today in the world of sports and
Speaker 2: some baseball baseball starting up baseball seat up people are
Speaker 2: reporting to camp. I have a question, and it's more
Speaker 2: of a random hypothetical. I saw people debating this on
Speaker 2: social media. Do you find it acceptable? Well, you know,
Speaker 2: if everyone does their traveling, it's a holiday weekend, is
Speaker 2: it acceptable to climb over someone in the middle seat
Speaker 2: on a plane? What do you mean if you are
Speaker 2: supposed to use no if you're in the window seat, yeah,
Speaker 2: and a stranger is next to you in the middle seat, Yeah.
Speaker 4: And they're sleeping in the middle seat.
Speaker 2: Do you give them a little nudge like I'm waking up?
Speaker 2: Or do you try to do the I'm gonna climb
Speaker 2: over a stranger while they're sleeping. Well, yeah, you can
Speaker 2: do that. I try. You try to squeeze by without
Speaker 2: waking them up.
Speaker 3: That's when you hide with your jacket and you yurinate
Speaker 3: into a big.
Speaker 4: Is that what you do, Daddy?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I but there was a big debate on social media.
Speaker 2: I mean that's how this weekend was. You know, it
Speaker 2: was all NBA All Star at SNL fifty. But I
Speaker 2: did see people debating this, and I did wonder, can
Speaker 2: you climb over a stranger? Because think about that. Your
Speaker 2: options are either to wake the person up, You're you're saying,
Speaker 2: assuming they're sleeping, right, Yeah, of course if they wake
Speaker 2: the person up, or try to like shimmy by them.
Speaker 2: I think you're a school boy if you're like standing
Speaker 2: on the seat trying to like hurdle them. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: try to shimmy buy them or or wake them up.
Speaker 2: Those are your only options. Play it accordingly, man, Is
Speaker 2: it intrusive to that? Game must have been really boring
Speaker 2: If this is what people were debating, is it intrusive
Speaker 2: to like hover your body over a stranger that if
Speaker 2: they wake up and you're right over them. I mean,
Speaker 2: pet your dandy in the window seat, right, they're doing
Speaker 2: what you gotta do in that situation. If you in
Speaker 2: the middle seat, would you appreciate someone trying to climb
Speaker 2: over you or wake you up? Hey, dude, that's why
Speaker 2: you got the middle sea. That's why nobody wants it.
Speaker 2: That's like the price you pay snooze, you lose. Nobody
Speaker 2: wants the middle seat because of those reasons. Thought, I
Speaker 2: throw it out there something I saw over the weekend
Speaker 2: because people, it's a matter how limber and agile is
Speaker 2: that person trying to hurtle over you? Yeah? You know,
Speaker 2: is it some uh, some big hairy fella breathe my friends,
Speaker 2: Bartolo cologne? That's Jacke. Yeah, is this some hot little
Speaker 2: chippy and yoga pants? You know, give me the cio
Speaker 2: give me. I was like, straddle over me then yeah,
Speaker 2: if it's Bartolo Cologne. I'm a little like annoyed by
Speaker 2: throwing it out there. Now today the big birthday, the
Speaker 2: big birthday in the world of sports. I don't want
Speaker 2: you to.
Speaker 4: Feel too old but Michael Jordan turned sixty two today.
Speaker 2: MJ is sixty two. And there's two layers to this question.
Speaker 2: Layer one, is he the.
Speaker 4: Most popular forget athlete? Is he the most popular guy
Speaker 4: in the last fifty years on planet Earth? And then
Speaker 4: part two of the.
Speaker 2: Question, is it possible that in all sports baseball, basketball, football, tennis, hockey,
Speaker 2: you name it, will there ever be a brand bigger
Speaker 2: than the one created by Michael Jordan. Okay, you said
Speaker 2: in the last fifty years, that's nineteen seventy four, So
Speaker 2: the answer is going to have to be seventy five.
Speaker 2: The answer is going to have to be no to that,
Speaker 2: because I'm not talking about just sports, I'm talking about
Speaker 2: talking worldwide, right, So you have to pick an international
Speaker 2: sport that would probably be like a Ronaldo or even fighting,
Speaker 2: you know, a Mikeer Muhammad Ali, because it was at
Speaker 2: least international. NBA was not international. The brand is is
Speaker 2: now international and we all love it. But think of
Speaker 2: the movie with Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. What was
Speaker 2: it called Air? Yeah, I mean I was in the eighties,
Speaker 2: so by the time it became an international monster, it
Speaker 2: was long past fifty years ago, or before fifty years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just saying I think give you said
Speaker 2: if you were to say nineteen seventy five to twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five, I'm not even talking with sports. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: on planet Earth, is there a more popular guy who
Speaker 2: said in the past fifty years, past fifty years, Muhammad
Speaker 2: Ali was past his prime. No, in seventy five, No,
Speaker 2: late seventies, he was just fighting in the eighties.
Speaker 4: So you think, so you think Muhammad Ali is the answer.
Speaker 2: Then I'm saying Jordan has surpassed all of that, But
Speaker 2: there has been other people internationally that were superstars and
Speaker 2: maybe just as big now with the sneaker brand, which
Speaker 2: I didn't have my first Jordan's until like eighty five, right,
Speaker 2: I was in like fifth sixth grade or something like that.
Speaker 2: Then it became an international thing. So there's been other
Speaker 2: people's my point, but you know, fast forward now, Yeah,
Speaker 2: your answer is dead on, spot on, And it seems
Speaker 2: like no one will ever be as big because the
Speaker 2: Jordan brand is so huge. But there has to be
Speaker 2: someone or something that comes along again and he's that
Speaker 2: next Jordan's. He's a lifetime, once in a lifetime kind
Speaker 2: of guy. But you know, once our lifetime is over.
Speaker 2: There'll be someone else. I don't know. And I say
Speaker 2: that because other athletes have had successful sneakers. You know
Speaker 2: lebron Kady Steph as Shack had his sneaker brand and
Speaker 2: still does. All these guys have successfully done it, but
Speaker 2: they all pale in comparison to the billion dollar industry.
Speaker 4: Is the Jordan branch of Nike and everything?
Speaker 3: So seven billion dollars. By the way, you got to.
Speaker 2: Ask yourself, is there a baseball player, if Otani or
Speaker 2: who's the face of baseball? You know?
Speaker 3: No, you think it would have to be an international
Speaker 3: star like our grandkid's gonna say, oh, I got my
Speaker 3: Otani's on.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 2: The world's a bigger place or a smaller place, I
Speaker 2: should say now, and it'll be a guy like Otani.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it is Otani, but it'll be a
Speaker 2: guy like Otaniani is the new Babe Ruth. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be a new Jordan. Yeah, but Otani if he came
Speaker 2: out with his own line of cleats and batting gloves
Speaker 2: and all baseball gear, I don't think every little boy
Speaker 2: and girl will be like, I need my otanis. They
Speaker 2: also have to be fired too. It's a perfect storm.
Speaker 2: The Jordan's for kids. I know, the famous clip of
Speaker 2: David Letterman talking about how ugly they were? Are you
Speaker 2: serious about these things? Kids loved them. They were fire
Speaker 2: and they're legendary still we still wear the same ones
Speaker 2: from eighty four eighty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all Lettermen and that generation were used to were
Speaker 3: boring basic Converse.
Speaker 2: Right your white tennis sneaker, right, your basic Converse shoe.
Speaker 2: It's almost because Michael Jordan, and much like anything in
Speaker 2: all businesses, it's the person that takes the big chance
Speaker 2: that has the biggest payoff, him going with Nike, which
Speaker 2: at the time was like a you know, like a
Speaker 2: not failing but a pretty mid level running shoe company.
Speaker 2: By him doing that, maybe that's the perfect storm because
Speaker 2: on his sixty second birthday it is. And it also
Speaker 2: built to the allure and mystique and legend of Air
Speaker 2: Jordan that there were other basketball players that endorse sneakers,
Speaker 2: Converse and stuff like that. But is it just simply
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was the first guy to really brand his
Speaker 2: own shoe to that level, and no one will ever compare,
Speaker 2: whether it's Steph or Lie Lebron's career could compare. People
Speaker 2: debate that till this day. Think about the sneaker. Think
Speaker 2: of all the sneakers that have debuted in the NBA,
Speaker 2: all the stars of the league. They have millions of
Speaker 2: kids buying their sneaker, but nothing compares to a Jordan.
Speaker 2: And like even in baseball, I've recently been buying a
Speaker 2: lot of equipment. My kids are getting more involved in
Speaker 2: their little league and stuff. Not to hi mind Jordan's career,
Speaker 2: but the shoe was fire, So that helped, right, It
Speaker 2: definitely helped, and it changed the game, and he marketed
Speaker 2: the hell out of it. The dude had gatorade, jingles
Speaker 2: and everything else. So, I mean Lebron's career rivals Jordan's
Speaker 2: his sneaker doesn't was Was Michael Jordan just the perfect
Speaker 2: guy at the perfect time and everything lined up like
Speaker 2: the fact that he was the most talented winner while
Speaker 2: at the same time also happened to be alive in
Speaker 2: a time where they took chance on Hey, maybe a
Speaker 2: basketball play with his own sneaker is a good idea.
Speaker 2: Was it just the perfect storm that no one will
Speaker 2: ever compete? Yeah, he also delivered. He was slamming from
Speaker 2: the foul line with the sneaker on. You know, so
Speaker 2: that also helps. Like, think about it. You think that
Speaker 2: Facebook and Instagram and TikTok, you think those are the
Speaker 2: only social media attempts. There's clearly other companies that were like,
Speaker 2: oh no, we'll be the next social media and see,
Speaker 2: everything's got to line up perfectly. And I think Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan on his sixty second birthday, you could argue, in
Speaker 2: the last fifty years, might be the most popular human
Speaker 2: on earth and no one will ever have a bigger
Speaker 2: sports brand. Think about it, Tennis, bowling, hockey, baseball, basketball.
Speaker 2: Is there ever gonna be a guy who sells billions
Speaker 2: of dollars of their logo? You know, it just sounds impossible, right,
Speaker 2: We're a blip on the radar the timeline of life.
Speaker 2: You don't think there is going to be some guy
Speaker 2: in thirty twenty five where again he surpasses that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know maybe in our lifetime for sure. Ever, no,
Speaker 2: most popular in the last fifty years. Yeah, you know
Speaker 2: what that that's a great debate. I would say you're
Speaker 2: probably right because of the brand at this point. I mean,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady's a huge brand with TB twelve and everything
Speaker 2: he represents. Shack does a Shack does a million endorsements.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows the Jumpman logo, everybody knows the shoe internationally,
Speaker 2: you know, not everybody got to see him play, so
Speaker 2: the legacy still lives on. It's crazy perspective community. That
Speaker 2: would be like Joe Montana, right having a branded cleat
Speaker 2: or football equipment that till this day, people are still
Speaker 2: talking like, oh, Mahomes is wearing the Montanas like it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. It just seems ridiculous that
Speaker 2: these young stars, the Marinos, they their stars in their
Speaker 2: own regard, yet they're still wearing Jordan branded stuff.
Speaker 4: I just think he is. He's that one guy.
Speaker 2: And yeah, maybe our grandparents would say what Babe Ruth
Speaker 2: did for baseball, the fact that he was like a
Speaker 2: larger than life, almost cartoon character, the type of guy,
Speaker 2: the way they describe him, I think.
Speaker 4: Most popular in the past fifty years.
Speaker 2: I'll give you that one, right, I was just throwing
Speaker 2: out other names in the past fifty years internationally.
Speaker 4: He's say one hundred.
Speaker 2: Maybe Muhammad Ali is the only one that rivals them. No,
Speaker 2: because again we're thinking America based. It eventually became international
Speaker 2: with the shoe brand NBA. No one cared about internationally
Speaker 2: at that time, Right, can anyone compete? I'd have to
Speaker 2: say yeah, probably because of international celebrity now and superstars
Speaker 2: in the soccer game and even baseball, so I will
Speaker 2: say yeah, And I mean, obviously NBA it's an international
Speaker 2: sport now, so the opportunity for this to happen is
Speaker 2: there on a much larger scale. I would say, evnch.
Speaker 2: But again, it was a if you were trying to dissect,
Speaker 2: well how did that happen? It was a perfect store
Speaker 2: of austome. He delivered, he won, he was great, and
Speaker 2: no shoes were dope you needed, and they marketed it perfectly,
Speaker 2: like so everything. You could argue the same about a
Speaker 2: lot of things, like something as silly as Kelly Clarkson.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I saw a meme that said, we got American Idol
Speaker 2: right the first time. We didn't need the twenty five
Speaker 2: more seasons. Like to think about how she was the
Speaker 2: first winner of a singing reality show and you know,
Speaker 2: she's as big a star now as ever before. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's the perfect storm of talent and timing and everything
Speaker 2: that I think it's hard to argue that anyone can
Speaker 2: anyone compete if if Ronaldo had some fire sneakers that
Speaker 2: translated internationally for everybody in casual use and where, but
Speaker 2: those guys all had their primarily and it didn't happen.
Speaker 2: I met that type of guy. Look at his social
Speaker 2: media following. You don't think someone with international fame like
Speaker 2: that could compete in the future. I do, but it would.
Speaker 2: They would be an Otani type and it would need
Speaker 2: he just needs a shoe. Covid would need to be
Speaker 2: a sporto that translates in the United States. Not that
Speaker 2: we dictate everything, but you can't call something the biggest
Speaker 2: in the world pop culture wise if it's not popular
Speaker 2: in the US and soccer fluteball just doesn't translate on
Speaker 2: that grand of scale where the NBA internationally is only
Speaker 2: getting bigger and bigger. So I think if Jordan's not
Speaker 2: the answer, I would love to hear who you think
Speaker 2: it is. At eight seven, seven nine nine on Fox
Speaker 2: on his sixty second birthday? Is Michael Jordan one of one? Essentially?
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Yeah, if you have little kids in your life,
Speaker 2: they still want Jordan's They still talk about I bought
Speaker 2: my nephew pair of Jordan's for Christmas that he wanted.
Speaker 2: I mean, you obviously know how popular the brand is. Cool,
Speaker 2: Uncle Steve buying an eight year old Jordan's and he
Speaker 2: appreciates it. He's eight, right, they know that jump man logo.
Speaker 2: So the question is is he the most popular in
Speaker 2: the past fifty years? Because he's sixty too, and we're
Speaker 2: still buying his shoes and talking about the guy? And
Speaker 2: can anyone ever compete with that sort of fame and fortune?
Speaker 4: What would it have to be?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: Describe the scenario? Would it have to be.
Speaker 2: Like such an elite guy like Mahomes almost three repeated
Speaker 2: you know Wash, you know, one bad game away from
Speaker 2: winning four of the last what five? And he doesn't
Speaker 2: have a fire shoe. He doesn't have a shoe or
Speaker 2: a brand of anything where you like kids like I
Speaker 2: need the Mahomes. He's investing in ketchup. And again it
Speaker 2: was it was nice pushing the the mystique of this guy,
Speaker 2: you know, Air Jordan. I mean, all these things added
Speaker 2: to it rich It's like, you know who had that
Speaker 2: sort of mystique about them? Mike Tyson invincible? He was invincible,
Speaker 2: at one point, if he had a fire shoe, we
Speaker 2: might be rocking it.
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Speaker 2: I was searching the Goat app to find a pair
Speaker 2: of og I think there are two thousand and twenty
Speaker 2: one Rob Parker specials. Rob Parker has them the Georgetown
Speaker 2: Jordan Forrest, those blue ones with the gray cement. I'm
Speaker 2: willing to pay over three hundred dollars for some Jordan
Speaker 2: Forrest because for a guy that hasn't played in decades,
Speaker 2: is the poltan and kids today who never ever even
Speaker 2: seen a highlight know the brand and know the sneaker.
Speaker 2: Jordan is sixty two and Rich poses a question, see
Speaker 2: the most popular guy of our lifetime in the past
Speaker 2: fifty years, in the past fifty years, and can anyone
Speaker 2: ever compete with that sort of branding at this stage
Speaker 2: of the game. And my only question to that, Rich is,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's hard to debate, but you don't think
Speaker 2: that people at one point thought there'd never be another
Speaker 2: Kareem or another Babe Ruth, and of course there was.
Speaker 2: There was a Michael Jordan. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: other international stars. Since shit, it's tough. International is the
Speaker 2: game changer here, There's gonna be another guy internationally who's
Speaker 2: the greatest thing going.
Speaker 4: Mike runs his place. Who you know the guy Mike?
Speaker 2: He said? I thought it was Rick from Punt Stars.
Speaker 2: Mike maybe not Jordan level. But what Tiger Woods did.
Speaker 4: For golf, and that's a good answer. I mean, it
Speaker 4: was a niche sport where.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, your dad might have watched the US
Speaker 2: Open or the Masters or something. But yeah, Tiger Woods
Speaker 2: did bring a whole new audience to golf. But he
Speaker 2: did have a big partnership with Nike, had his own brand,
Speaker 2: but not to the Jordan level.
Speaker 4: There's, i think, in fact, not the why.
Speaker 2: I think. I know that in the last fifty twel
Speaker 2: hundred years no bigger star on planet Earth than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: And I don't think there's an athlete capable of ever
Speaker 2: having a brand as big as Jordan's. As I looked
Speaker 2: down on.
Speaker 4: My feet, I'm wearing Jordan's today do so, why don't.
Speaker 2: You, Why don't you hit up Steve A. Smith and
Speaker 2: tell him this, because they still debate, you know, who's
Speaker 2: to go, Jordan or Lebron. Those debates are eye roll y.
Speaker 2: So if you're so adamant, and if it's so obvious,
Speaker 2: and it does feel kind of obvious in this context
Speaker 2: of his brand and the branding, right, then how is
Speaker 2: this still a debate? Because when you think of overall
Speaker 2: international legacy in the branding that's behind this guy, how
Speaker 2: is that even a conversation Still, Let's go to Nate
Speaker 2: in Vegas. We'll start with you, Kevino on Retch.
Speaker 4: What's up, buddy, how you guys doing good?
Speaker 2: Mail's up good?
Speaker 7: We guys keep talking about dudes and guys.
Speaker 8: My thought was, Uh, Caitlin Clark's got a pretty good start.
Speaker 7: Jordan changed the game. Kaitlin Clark, I would.
Speaker 8: Argue, has changed the WNBA or women's basketball just in
Speaker 8: one year, no doubt.
Speaker 4: What that's a that's a great answer. I mean, she is.
Speaker 4: She has changed that sport more than most have changed
Speaker 4: any other sport.
Speaker 2: Really, game change are no question, But could her branding
Speaker 2: be as large?
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to say, is this conversation
Speaker 3: about who's changed their sport the most or who could
Speaker 3: have a brand as huge as Jordan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Rich was talking about can anyone compete in that
Speaker 2: sort of legacy of branding, just like the thought of
Speaker 2: how big his popularity transcended as a result, I have
Speaker 2: a question, as you said, is he the most popular
Speaker 2: in the past fifty years? And can anyone even compete
Speaker 2: with that? At that point, Danny, look up real quick,
Speaker 2: if you don't mind, how many humans on planet Earth?
Speaker 2: What's your guests? Three three billion?
Speaker 4: How many human that's a good question, how many?
Speaker 3: How how many omens? Eight point two billion?
Speaker 2: Eight billion? People? Would you agree that the name Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan would have the highest percentage of the average random
Speaker 2: human doing name recognition? Probably not. You're in the context
Speaker 2: of Fox Sports Radio, where most of your life is
Speaker 2: revolving around sports. Who has not heard of the name?
Speaker 2: But I'm saying it's probably a world leader. I would guess, Okay,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump might be the answer, Abe, But you don't
Speaker 2: a world leader again, Now you're still really ethnocentric in
Speaker 2: your thoughts. You're not thinking internationally. I mean, Donald Trump
Speaker 2: would probably be one of those guys don't be world leaders.
Speaker 2: Then you're asking worldwide. You're talking about eight billion people.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter what I don't, It doesn't come down to me.
Speaker 2: I think, you know a kid from Jersey. I think
Speaker 2: if you listed the most famous people on planet Earth
Speaker 2: and give it to uh, you know people random third
Speaker 2: world countries, it's a really tough family feud question. He
Speaker 2: has a lot of people to ask, serve eight billion people.
Speaker 2: Steve Harvey's mustache, sho'll be wiggling for that one. That's
Speaker 2: a tough one. But I think Michael Jordan, if not
Speaker 2: the number one, he's a top ten most recognizable name.
Speaker 2: I would beg you to find someone that's like Michael
Speaker 2: Jordan's never heard of Well, there was a point in time.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine imagine meeting someone and they're like Michael Jordan,
Speaker 2: never heard of them. There was a point in time
Speaker 2: as an eighties kid growing up where the stat according
Speaker 2: to I don't know, readers digest the Parade or People
Speaker 2: magazine or something, I don't know, some random Matt Yeah,
Speaker 2: the stat used to say that the three most recognizable
Speaker 2: people in the world where or characters or figures in
Speaker 2: the world worldwide where Mickey Mouse, Michael Jackson, and I
Speaker 2: think it was Hulk Holgan at one point because of
Speaker 2: the yellow in the red. It was recognizable worldwide. You know,
Speaker 2: people knew that at one point. So you're saying, at
Speaker 2: one point it just turned into Michael Jordan. I think so, Larry,
Speaker 2: you know, Illinois, what's up, Larry?
Speaker 8: Hey, how you guys doing, Larry?
Speaker 4: People have these tired debates of the goat and this
Speaker 4: and that and the sneakers, and I just argue that
Speaker 4: there's no more famous human than Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: It's just I can't see anyone on earth not knowing
Speaker 2: the name Michael Jordan.
Speaker 8: Well what what Jordan and Nike did, especially in the
Speaker 8: sports world golf I love baseball obviously, is they attacked
Speaker 8: all the other sports. I mean you look at golfers
Speaker 8: have golf shoes that are Jordan's. You know, there's baseball,
Speaker 8: there's football. I mean, he made he makes a football clague,
Speaker 8: he made football uniforms that have his jump logo on it.
Speaker 4: It's wild.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm not understanding it. Because we don't
Speaker 2: talk Jordan a lot on our show. We never have
Speaker 2: those Jordan Lebron debates. But it's his birthday, and it
Speaker 2: just dawned on me that I don't know if anyone
Speaker 2: could ever really do it again. It's almost like first
Speaker 2: in wins, like a soda could. The soda is never
Speaker 2: going to be Coca cola unless it does. Will there
Speaker 2: ever be a soft drink more popular than Coca Cola?
Speaker 2: To say never? Though, it sounds so what's the word?
Speaker 2: It just sounds wild that you would you would think
Speaker 2: never when, like I said, we're on the blip of
Speaker 2: the timeline.
Speaker 4: James, your life is so short.
Speaker 2: You don't think in another one hundred years or something
Speaker 2: there's gonna be someone else. You think we're still gonna
Speaker 2: be having these conversations one hundred years now. Praise Let's
Speaker 2: let's take it back. I know sports are evolving more
Speaker 2: than ever now, but if you go back to the
Speaker 2: last you know, one hundred and fifty years, modern day sport,
Speaker 2: Babe Ruth might be the only name of the conversation
Speaker 2: with Michael Jordan, and that's slowly being replaced by a
Speaker 2: guy named Shohe who has international fame.
Speaker 4: All right, James and San Antonio, what's up?
Speaker 2: James?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was thinking of the same thing that the last
Speaker 6: car just said, Jordan's got so many other players from
Speaker 6: other sports repping his logo that I feel like his
Speaker 6: brand and his product is going to last for as
Speaker 6: long as it wants.
Speaker 8: To be in business.
Speaker 6: There's no question about it. There's been other players that
Speaker 6: have come close, like Frank Thomas or King Griffy or
Speaker 6: Bo Jackson, but they didn't get past it. So I
Speaker 6: think Jordan's going to always be the biggest the goat
Speaker 6: on branding and athletes of all time.
Speaker 2: James, speaking of the logo, is he wearing shorts or
Speaker 2: pants in the Jumpman logo? Well, now you got me confused.
Speaker 2: Why would I not know right out the gate tooting
Speaker 2: common knowledge that he's wearing pantalones. You could see him.
Speaker 3: This is like staring at the KFC logo.
Speaker 4: Now I just see, Now, I just see.
Speaker 2: It's not a it's not a bow tie, it's his
Speaker 2: arms and legs. You assume he's wearing shorts because you
Speaker 2: know he's in the NBA, but he's wearing like his pants.
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna make me look it up. And if
Speaker 2: you have Jordan's and the Jordan Jumpman has a butt crack,
Speaker 2: those are the fake ones. Yeah, those are for gazy.
Speaker 2: Those are the fake Jordan's. Those are dairy air Jordan's.
Speaker 2: You know what, fake ones have a butt crack, you know, Coach.
Speaker 2: The real Jordan's don't have a butt crack. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it never dawned on me, but for some reason,
Speaker 2: I never looked at it close enough to be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's wearing like the warm up pants. He's wearing pants
Speaker 2: in the logo. Wait, is this one of those No,
Speaker 2: that's it. So he's one of those Mendela facts where
Speaker 2: I don't wear No, it was all shorts, Bro Jackson, Casey,
Speaker 2: what's up? Jack's convite on Rich?
Speaker 7: Hey, what's up? Fellows? Great show, thank you. By the way,
Speaker 7: I mean my fifties, I never owned a pair of Jordan's.
Speaker 7: They were just too expensive. That's crazy to me that
Speaker 7: people would pay that much money for those shoes. Right,
Speaker 7: But here's here's here's the three things that made Jordan
Speaker 7: who Jordan is. Number three, He was a winner and
Speaker 7: a drive to win that we've never seen before or
Speaker 7: since in my opinion.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Number two. Number two the marketing with Mars black Men
Speaker 7: and at that particular time pop culture that it tapped
Speaker 7: into Spike Lee was so huge as part of that
Speaker 7: culture that that's what also brought it to light. But
Speaker 7: number number one cable television. I understand. I live in
Speaker 7: Kansas City, been here all my life. WGN was a
Speaker 7: national station that played bulls games night every night, so
Speaker 7: as fans all over the country watch bulls games every day.
Speaker 7: And so when you combine those three things together, that
Speaker 7: is what put Jordan's whole brand, everything about him at
Speaker 7: a level that nobody's ever gone because we're not galvanized enough.
Speaker 7: You know, with social media, everybody's in their own little bubbles,
Speaker 7: everybody's in their own little pocket, so nobody has a
Speaker 7: way to bring that many odds. Remember back in those days,
Speaker 7: millions of people watched nightly news at five third.
Speaker 4: Durin kenned It's a different world now.
Speaker 2: The example I love to use Jacks is we all
Speaker 2: know the same sitcoms and dumb shows and cartoons from
Speaker 2: the eighties and nineties because there were only a few shows.
Speaker 2: Like if you're like, hey, do you remember a Cosby
Speaker 2: Show or Growing Pains or Different Strokes or Full House?
Speaker 2: You know why we do because there weren't that many options.
Speaker 2: Now two kids that are the same age. Two five
Speaker 2: year olds could watch completely different cartoons, tons of options. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean we said it, perfect storm, and he nailed it.
Speaker 2: If Jordan didn't win and he wasn't a winner, you
Speaker 2: might well, no, you wouldn't have had the same results.
Speaker 2: But Nike also invested in the right guy, perfect storm
Speaker 2: of marketing, and it really was. It really was Dyve
Speaker 2: invested in the right guy at the right time. He
Speaker 2: delivered and it all worked out for the guy. So
Speaker 2: happy birthday, extra happy Birthday to sixty two year old
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. There you go, Hey, coming up? Uh, do
Speaker 2: you want to talk a little NFL?
Speaker 4: I know, I know we're we're taking like a mental
Speaker 4: timeout a week removed from the Super Bowls. Everyone's sort
Speaker 4: of like taking that deep, that deep breath like man
Speaker 4: NFL season in the books.
Speaker 2: But you don't want to talk about the Sikai Ti Kai.
Speaker 2: I mean way bigger right now, to be honest, everybody's
Speaker 2: talking about it, you know, I do. I do think
Speaker 2: that I find it interesting when I meet other people,
Speaker 2: like you know, if you're like roughly fortyish people that
Speaker 2: are like, Ye're not interested, I'm like, didn't you love
Speaker 2: Karate kids. As a youngster, I do enjoy Cobra Kai,
Speaker 2: but I have somebodies that are like, yeah, I'm not interested.
Speaker 2: It's then they're lame. But I don't know. I'm interested
Speaker 2: in buddy.
Speaker 4: It's such a fun show, right, Hey, thoughts about the NFL.
Speaker 4: But also it's President's Day and I have a theory
Speaker 4: about the presidential first pitch, and I think it's something
Speaker 4: you can tell about anyone by the answer. So we'll
Speaker 4: get to that next right here. Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 2: We're learning stuff today, could Bean Unrich and for Dan
Speaker 2: Patrick on Fox Sports Radio. We learned that the NBA
Speaker 2: can't force us to like something. You have to organically
Speaker 2: like things. And again painting and brush strokes. Sure, some
Speaker 2: people loved it. I had it on. I didn't love it,
Speaker 2: but I had it on all weekend. I'll start weekend
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day weekend. There was lots of loving going on.
Speaker 2: We learned that, Uh, Michael Jordan, who celebrated the birthday today,
Speaker 2: I'll go on say fifty. Forget that most famous due
Speaker 2: in less hundred years, especially in the world of sports.
Speaker 2: But you also said, can anyone compete with that moving forward?
Speaker 2: I don't think so. There's gonna be somebody.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 2: You think there's gonna be an athlete whose brand extends
Speaker 2: into other sports?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Maybe again, maybe a show. Hey, maybe it's someone else.
Speaker 2: I think so. I don't know about that. I do.
Speaker 2: I did want to ask you over the weekend, did
Speaker 2: you catch some of the highlights of the SNL fifty.
Speaker 2: I saw the highlights again. We're Covino and Rich and
Speaker 2: for Dan Patrick eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox
Speaker 2: Again at Covino and Rich on social media search Covino
Speaker 2: and Rich where you stream your podcasts helpe. You had
Speaker 2: a mac mclunk stort of weekend? What stood out to
Speaker 2: the Eddie Murphy stuff. I tune in the Will Ferrell.
Speaker 4: Doing the music teacher singing Kendrick LaVar.
Speaker 2: I did see that.
Speaker 4: I thought that was the highlight. I saw that. I
Speaker 4: think it's worth watching.
Speaker 2: If people haven't seen it, I would say it's worth
Speaker 2: checking out the highlights. SNL turned fifty over this weekend,
Speaker 2: so and again the special aired on a Sunday, because
Speaker 2: I don't know people want to don't want to stay
Speaker 2: up late on a Saturday Saturday night live fifty on
Speaker 2: a Sunday, and one other questions for you. I'm not
Speaker 2: putting on the spot, but I saw that I feel
Speaker 2: like you're gonna the mo I say things like that,
Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna The Mets are toying with
Speaker 2: the idea of naming Francisco Lindor their captain. And there's
Speaker 2: only three captains in Major League Baseball. John Franco said,
Speaker 2: from one captain to another, he approves, And I wonder
Speaker 2: what you think the significance of a baseball captain is.
Speaker 2: Think about it the football. Every football team has multiple captains.
Speaker 2: They go out for the coin toss. They represent the
Speaker 2: team in different you know, special teams, defense, offense. Baseball,
Speaker 2: there's three. We all know the one obvious one, Aaron Judge.
Speaker 2: Do you know the other two captains in baseball? Of
Speaker 2: the of the thirty Major League Baseball teams, only three
Speaker 2: teams currently have a captain currently have a captain. I
Speaker 2: don't think I mean, I'm putting you on the spot
Speaker 2: because I don't think you would ever guess in a
Speaker 2: million years. Maybe one of them, because he's such a
Speaker 2: veteran of this team and he's won a World Series
Speaker 2: with them, small market team, Miguel Cabrera No Salvador Perez Royals.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a good one. Actually I did know that. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm trying to think of, like, well,
Speaker 2: who's a legendary player who is still around Marcus Simeon
Speaker 2: of the Texas Rangers. I would have never guessed that.
Speaker 4: So is there a significance to captain in baseball?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: Just like, Hey, the teams is an honor. The team
Speaker 2: respects you clearly. You're a clubhouse guy and you're on
Speaker 2: a long term deal and you're going nowhere, Like, how
Speaker 2: does you remember those things? I still remember Jason Vertek
Speaker 2: was the captain of the Red Sox. He had a
Speaker 2: little sea. He's always a debate, do you wear the seed?
Speaker 2: Are you better than me?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: I think it's cool. Yeah, it's an honor. Has any
Speaker 2: Yankee ever wore the sea? Not that I know of, No,
Speaker 2: not that I know of. But you had judge before that,
Speaker 2: matting before that, Jeter, then Manningly and Randolph and Gidrey
Speaker 2: and yeah, Yankees might be one of the only teams
Speaker 2: that really consistently do a captain. But I think Lindor
Speaker 2: would be a great choice. I really do. It's leadership,
Speaker 2: He's the guy. I don't think anyone played with more
Speaker 2: fire than Lindor came in clutch. I think that's a
Speaker 2: great choice if the Mets wanted to take that route.
Speaker 2: Danny had the Dodger you're the leader on the field.
Speaker 2: Have the Dodgers ever had a captain? From what you remember?
Speaker 3: Racking my head on that one right now.
Speaker 2: Get this, the Dodgers have had five captains, the last
Speaker 2: one before most of us are born, Davey Lopes in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight.
Speaker 3: I was going to say, I don't think we were born.
Speaker 4: Captain's matteran baseball.
Speaker 2: Hey, your thoughts and we'll get to some more NFL, NBA,
Speaker 2: A lot of fun C and R in for Dan Patrick.