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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Wanna throw by Tyler Murray facing pressure Connor to the

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Speaker 2: End zone for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Underground, presented by Pacific Office Automation. Visit

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown Tyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 4: Oh that was nasty right there.

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Speaker 3: Rights slam the ground by fooda baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 3: He came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna preface this intro by stating that the following

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Speaker 2: artist I'm going to name I listened to as a

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Speaker 2: little kid. My parents. Once again, my parents were big

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Speaker 2: fans of Tony Bennett, which I bring up because his

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Speaker 2: most famous song I Left my Heart in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: I thought about that it might have been a good headline.

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Speaker 2: Darrenazycardinals dot Com.

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Speaker 4: I left a dub.

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Speaker 2: In San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: I thought you were referencing Little John Thursday Nights halftime.

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Speaker 2: Don't do it, Danny, don't. Don't even know, Danny why.

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Speaker 2: I know where Danny wants to go with the Little John.

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Speaker 4: I thought I thought you were referencing James Carner. You

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Speaker 4: left your heart there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was the scoreboard, the heartbeat of the team,

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Speaker 2: all the above, you know. And I'm ignoring Danny trying

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Speaker 2: to work in how I might have spelled a Little

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Speaker 2: John with j O h N.

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Speaker 5: It's not little John John.

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Speaker 2: It was auto correct on the page. Okay, you look

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Speaker 2: further down. I spelled it correctly. That is the halftime act,

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Speaker 2: by the way, this week, and this is Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 2: Paul CALVC, Danny Sirek, Darren Rman, Tony Bennett will not

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Speaker 2: be performing posthumously. It is John. So just gonna let

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Speaker 2: you know, although he was performing into his nineties, that's

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Speaker 2: neither here nor there. I'm avoiding the real news, which

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Speaker 2: is the bad news of losing James Conner. You lost

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Speaker 2: more than a game, Danny, So how do you quantify

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Speaker 2: the loss of the team captain like JC?

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Speaker 5: You don't Connor leads this offense, not just what he

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Speaker 5: does in the run game. How he sets the tone

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Speaker 5: and runs through defense is like a bulldozer. He is

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Speaker 5: the heart and soul of this offense. He is the

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Speaker 5: bellweather of where you're looking at this offense, this team

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Speaker 5: as a whole, and you lose him in a devastating manner.

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Speaker 5: The Cardinals were running the ball a little bit more

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Speaker 5: than what we've seen early on the first half. You

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Speaker 5: get through one play as a nine yard run to

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Speaker 5: kick off the third quarter, and then he gets hurt.

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Speaker 5: And it was a tough scene to watch from the

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Speaker 5: press box. I can only imagine your view down on

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Speaker 5: the sideline. Paul and everybody on the field immediately took

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Speaker 5: a knee, all the players coming around Connor as he

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Speaker 5: was carted off the field. There was a trainer who

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Speaker 5: was applying pressure to that right ankle, which we've now

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Speaker 5: learned as actually as in any right foot injury for Connor.

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Speaker 5: And that's tough. That's tough as the type of person

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Speaker 5: Connor is and all he has overcome on a personal

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Speaker 5: level throughout his career, going back to college, and to

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Speaker 5: have somebody get hurt who means so much to this

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt in my mind, at least in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: the halftime adjustment was more James Connor. He came out,

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Speaker 2: he gave it to him nine yards off the bat,

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Speaker 2: it was tough. I mean, you know, the whole sideline

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Speaker 2: immediately went to a knee. You could just tell you

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Speaker 2: of the players on the field, players on the sideline,

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Speaker 2: Mealy took a knee, and then by the time it

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Speaker 2: was determined, here's the cart. Everyone came out onto the field,

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Speaker 2: both sides. Sean the Gannon, I don't know what he

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Speaker 2: gave props to the Niners for being all class, Fred

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Speaker 2: of game they're in for when James Connor and that

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Speaker 2: Cardinals offense shows up and they're gonna cram it vertical,

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Speaker 2: and they know that James Connor single handley led the

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Speaker 5: It was just one of those unfortunate plays that just

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Speaker 5: the ball up the middle, he got tackled and kind

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Speaker 5: get tackled. It's just it's heartbreaking, especially early on in

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Speaker 5: the season, to lose somebody that you plan a lot

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Speaker 5: Benson going now in his second year step up. Connor

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Speaker 5: had called them co rb one's at the start of

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Speaker 5: the year. Offensive coordinator Drew Petsing told the media Monday

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Speaker 5: that he feels like Benson is ready for this load

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Speaker 5: he's going to have to carry, and so he's gonna

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Speaker 4: I know, you know, it's weird. We get to know

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Speaker 4: these guys more than most, obviously because of our situation

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Speaker 4: and working for the team, and you know, there isn't

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Speaker 4: any buddy. It was funny. Jonathan Gannon just said there

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Speaker 4: isn't anybody in the building that doesn't understand what James

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Speaker 4: There's nobody that isn't upset that James Connor got hurt.

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Speaker 4: But there's also fourteen games left in the season. You know,

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Speaker 4: this is one of those things where you know, this

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Speaker 4: is the harsh part of the NFL, where we're going

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Speaker 4: to talk about this, and we're probably gonna talk about

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Speaker 4: another game, and there's other things you got to worry about,

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Speaker 4: whether Paris Johnson's healthy, whether you got enough receivers now

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Speaker 4: that Day Jones is in concussion protocol. But this is

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Speaker 4: going to fade quickly in the grand scheme of where

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Speaker 4: this Cardinal season goes, because it's you get forced to.

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Speaker 2: Do you have to change the identity of your run game?

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Speaker 2: Do you have to change the identity of your offense?

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Speaker 2: You guys know, I'm fond of saying he's not just

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Speaker 2: a player, he's a mindset, He's a mentality. You know,

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Speaker 2: he'll rip off four, five, ten yards, He'll flex towards

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Speaker 2: the sideline. You know, follow me, let's get amped up.

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Speaker 2: He's that sort of guy we always use in football

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Speaker 2: and in sports in general. Ah, that player sets the tone.

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Speaker 2: There are very few players who truly single handedly set

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Speaker 2: the tone. Fred Warner is one of those guys. For

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Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, James Connor was his counterpart on

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Speaker 2: becoming that guy. We'll get to him in a minute.

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Speaker 2: But nobody is quite like James Connor and Trey Benson

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Speaker 2: in year two. He's a highly skilled running back. But

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Speaker 2: I just wonder if you have to draw it up differently.

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Speaker 5: Now, you can't replace what Connor brings to this team

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Speaker 5: because he's unique in that. You also can't change the

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Speaker 5: identity of this offense, what they're built. They have built

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Speaker 5: this team from a personnel standpoint on running the ball.

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Speaker 5: It's not as simple as Okay, we're not gonna have Connor.

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Speaker 5: Let's just really focus on the passing game. Passing game

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Speaker 5: has not been there the last three weeks, not consistently enough,

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Speaker 5: not as consistently as you need it to. You can't

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Speaker 5: just snap your fingers and say, okay, we lost RB one,

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Speaker 5: let's just become a pass first, pass heavy team. Fortunately

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Speaker 5: it doesn't work that way, be really nice if it did.

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Speaker 5: Right now for the Cardinals, good news is Benson has

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Speaker 5: shown he is capable of having some really nice runs.

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Speaker 5: He's had a handful of explosive runs so far this season.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't just go east and west, he goes north

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Speaker 5: and south. He is running through defenders more than we

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Speaker 5: saw last You're kind of emulating Connor and Bit in that,

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Speaker 5: he will get, that much faster his game will improve.

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Speaker 5: What's tough is this offense stems around running the ball

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Speaker 5: and opening up the rest of the playbook. Opening up

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Speaker 5: that air game's going to be any sort of stepback

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Speaker 5: in the run game, which, to be fair, has not

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Speaker 5: that we saw this team end with their run game

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Speaker 5: offensively last year. This passing game is absolutely going to

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Speaker 5: have to step up, and that's tough. If this run

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Speaker 5: game doesn't figure out where they need to make adjustments.

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Speaker 2: Look, the reality is it's been a run first offense

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Speaker 4: Years, a good run first offense.

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, number two in yards per carry two years

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Speaker 2: that defenses have adjusted that they studied the Cardinals' scheme.

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Speaker 2: Here's how we're going to counter what the Cardinals try

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Speaker 2: and do with some of the polling guards and the

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Speaker 2: going to make it difficult. I mean, even the James

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Speaker 2: and then miraculously basically it's like a four yard game

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Speaker 2: You know to me, and I know you guys didn't ask,

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Speaker 2: but Calvic consulting the poly Pigskin division, I think we

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Speaker 2: have a possible answer as to what you do now

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Speaker 2: minus James Conner. Are you ready?

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Speaker 4: We're listening more Trey McBride.

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Speaker 2: If there's another guy on the offense who quote sets

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Speaker 2: the tone, who gets as fired up on game day

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Speaker 2: as James Connor, who is every bit as competitive, Who

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Speaker 2: is that ultra crazy game day guy who can fire

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Speaker 2: up an entire sideline, It is Trey McBride. And so

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Speaker 2: you know what, if you're gonna make you know, like

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Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey in their prime, and he's

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Speaker 2: gonna get fifteen targets a game, then I say do it.

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Speaker 2: Just keep feeding Trey McBride.

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Speaker 5: You won't find an argument for me. It's like more Cowbell,

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Speaker 5: more McBride, Paul, he's tough to bring down. He's gotten

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Speaker 5: credible hands. That's a connection that has been good so

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Speaker 5: far through three games. You're always gonna want more, You're

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Speaker 5: always going to need more because McBride is that good.

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Speaker 5: That that's a good that's a good turning point for

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Speaker 5: what this offense could have, not in the sense of

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Speaker 5: you're changing the identity like Bride is just your most

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Speaker 2: Are you doing it out of necessity in some ways too,

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Speaker 2: though No, James Connor, Trey Benson has had some flashes,

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Speaker 2: If that's what you want to do against Seattle, I

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Speaker 2: don't know who else. I mean, is a Mario de Mercatto,

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Speaker 4: More Trey McBride, though obviously I mean yes, because to

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Speaker 2: But have you maximized him here in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 4: Have you maximized anything on offense?

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Speaker 2: Like I'm saying, who's capable of knowing that guy? If

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with you but I guess my thought

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Speaker 4: I don't think anybody it's it's not like what he

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Speaker 2: I guess when we see him with that touchdown catch,

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Speaker 4: I'm with you, And it does feel like and you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to get all the past catching targets

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Speaker 2: why is that? And if it's a run first offense

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Speaker 5: It's so interesting when you look at the stats. This offense,

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Speaker 5: have shown that they can be better. That's what's frustrating

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Speaker 2: I'll give you an anecdote from the sideline and a

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Speaker 2: I think the reassessment one from thirty to twenty nine yards.

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Speaker 2: Trey Benson a Q Shipley is going to feature that

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Speaker 2: segment with AQ. He co rushes it every week. If

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Speaker 2: you look at that, it was after the play and

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Speaker 4: That's I just saw that Josh Fryer got nine snaps

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Speaker 2: Yes and so I And that play he got the

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Speaker 2: I just wonder dot dot Josh Fryar, you know, how

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Speaker 5: Fryar got a lot of looks at the tackle position

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Speaker 2: He got better every single week, every single preseason games team,

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Speaker 5: In an ideal world, Paul, you're not having Friar see

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Speaker 2: Good point. We'll see, We'll see what happens, all right.

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Speaker 4: I do know I wanted to throw this out there

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Speaker 4: Not a great play design when you got Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 4: For all the things we've talked about Kyler Murray over

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Speaker 5: Let's be clear this the struggles on offense in San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison was still in his full uniform, sitting facing

436
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 4: into his locker with a towel over his head. And

437
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 4: he was there for a while after that too. And

438
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 4: I asked Jonathan Gannon on Monday, like, do you every

439
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,639
Speaker 4: everybody says there's no harsher critic than myself, and Marvin

440
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 4: is said that multiple times, And I said, do you

441
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 4: worry about a guy getting into his own head? I've

442
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 4: had I've had it's going to be in the mail

443
00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 4: bag this week, but I've had multiple people who say,

444
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,439
Speaker 4: does he have the yips right now in terms of

445
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 4: some of this, and I guess that's possible, but you

446
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 4: do worry about a guy, in my opinion, getting into

447
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 4: his own head in terms of having all that pressure

448
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 4: and struggling with it.

449
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: I was not there. What was JG's response to your question,

450
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 2: if I might ask.

451
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Speaker 4: He he basically he didn't go directly to Marvin, but

452
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: he said, you know, everybody's that way, and it's a

453
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 4: good question, but you've got to find a way to

454
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 4: move beyond that. That's how you coach it. And let's

455
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 4: face it, the best players are the ones that are

456
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 4: the hardest, harshest critic, but they do get beyond it.

457
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 4: And one of the things, one of the things I

458
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: think it's all and I don't want to make this all.

459
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying this about Marvin. I don't know Marvin

460
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 4: well enough. But bigger picture, you know, especially as somebody

461
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 4: who's been around this team for twenty five years, Paul,

462
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 4: you've been around this team for forever. Dan, you've been

463
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 4: around football long enough, and you've seen these athletes up close.

464
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: The thing that's always tough when you're working from the

465
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,159
Speaker 4: fan base, you know, fortunate enough to get to know

466
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 4: these players a little bit more than fans. We don't

467
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 4: know them as well as they're friends and everything, but

468
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 4: we know them a little bit better. Fans aren't gonna

469
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 4: know this. It's not a cookie cutter situation. These people

470
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 4: we talk about. It's there's a human beings playing this game,

471
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,679
Speaker 4: and sometimes that gets thrown out as a cliche and

472
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 4: sometimes but again, every guy is different, and fans sometimes

473
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 4: don't want to hear that because it makes it harder

474
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,959
Speaker 4: to figure out what's wrong in a certain situation or whatever.

475
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: But like, you don't know how somebody is going to

476
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 4: react in a certain situation. You don't know how a

477
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 4: guy who's had a ton of success his whole life

478
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 4: and gets this level and struggles a little bit. Some

479
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 4: guys it's everything and it helps them. Some guys it's

480
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 4: everything and it beats them down. And you just you

481
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 4: aren't gonna know until you're in that situation. And we

482
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 4: will see in this case what happens with Marvin and

483
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 4: where it goes from here.

484
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 5: Almost a blessing and a curse that this fan base

485
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 5: has been blessed with the skills of Alarri Gerald for

486
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 5: so long. You have to remember and not everybody is

487
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 5: going to be quote unquote a fits right off the bat.

488
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 5: And let's not forget Harrison has shown really good things.

489
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 5: Has it been great the start of the season.

490
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Speaker 2: No.

491
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 5: Did he have a good game in San Francisco. No,

492
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 5: he'll tell you that. But whether or not you want

493
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 5: to agree with pets and calling three games a small

494
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 5: sample size, that's the reality. I don't agree with the

495
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 5: people who are coming with pitchforks and saying Harrison is

496
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 5: not the receiver, He's not the answer. You need to

497
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: move on that I don't agree with. I would like

498
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 5: to see Harrison get targeted more. Through three games, ten

499
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 5: receptions on seventeen targets. You don't need to force him

500
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: if it's not there, if he's not open. Let's build

501
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 5: up that confidence. Let's get that chemistry going some of

502
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,879
Speaker 5: the moments we saw as a rookie last year with

503
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 5: Murray and really start to create that foundation again. You

504
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 5: don't want to force it down their throats, but if

505
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 5: he's open and you can work him around in different routes,

506
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 5: I would like to see Harrison get the ball a

507
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 5: little bit more to try and build that confidence.

508
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the eg Brown highlights. Got on

509
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: the team plane, I looked at a few things, and

510
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm totally out of it. I don't know

511
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 2: any final scores. I know nothing. And I saw that,

512
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: and I saw some of the AJ because I'm carrying,

513
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 2: you know, Rob Frederickson on the pregame show for two

514
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: hours and then you know, down on the sideline getting dehydrated.

515
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: And then I see the AJ Brown highlights and it

516
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 2: reminded me of a Kwon Bolden in his prime. I mean,

517
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 2: every snap is an MMA fight. I mean, it's unbelievable, right,

518
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: He's playing like a true middle linebacker. And there's such

519
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: a big part of me that I want to show

520
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: those highlights to Marvin Harrison Junior. Attack the football. It's

521
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: a game of aggression. But to your point, everyone's different.

522
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 2: That you can count on one hand how many guys

523
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: play with the mentality of an an Kwon Bolden or

524
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: AJ Brown.

525
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: This is obviously not the same thing because it is

526
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 4: not professional sports. But and I hate admitting this because

527
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 4: I was one of those dads, not over the top,

528
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 4: but I had sons. I was hoping they'd get to

529
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: a certain level. My older son, I thought could have

530
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 4: had a little bit of ability playing some basketball. It

531
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 4: wouldn't have gone very far, but at least making high school.

532
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 4: But he would have had to put in some time

533
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 4: and he would have had to be more aggressive. And

534
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: that's not my son. And he never was that guy.

535
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 4: And it's tough for me because I was an ass

536
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 4: a lot of times when I would get on the

537
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: basketball court and that was just my personality and he

538
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: just wasn't that guy. And sometimes that's some of the

539
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 4: stuff you need. And an Kwan was a one of

540
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: a you know, as great as fits was, and he

541
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 4: got better at being aggressive, he would never he was

542
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 4: never a Kwan And you can't teach that. That's just

543
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 4: that's down deep into play.

544
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 5: You also have to be careful what you wish for

545
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 5: when you're looking around some of the league, some of

546
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 5: the top receivers in the league that might have what

547
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 5: those qualities you're looking for Paul in the locker room,

548
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 5: So take that for what you will. That is not

549
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: Harrison at all. That is not what this team wants,

550
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 5: that's not what the front office wants. So keep that

551
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 5: in mind of what you're asking for of If that's

552
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 5: the kind of receiver you want, more times than not.

553
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 5: They are divas and that comes out in the media.

554
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 4: Aj Brown reads books.

555
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 5: He reads one book that we know of.

556
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 4: On the sideline.

557
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 2: Although when the ball was in the air, Larry was

558
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: a kwan. When the ball was in he did attack.

559
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: And it is a little bit of different thing.

560
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 4: And I do think, you know again, I am far

561
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: from a wide receiver guru. But like when you watch

562
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,439
Speaker 4: the play in the end zone where he jumps for it,

563
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: you would think your hands would be in a certain way.

564
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 4: And he brought him back under almost to like body

565
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: catch it, and he jumped.

566
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: He didn't need to jump. It was okay, all right,

567
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: here we go. You know what, somebody else needs to

568
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: take an l around here. Let's go get to that bottom.

569
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: Are you doing that on purpose?

570
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: Let's go?

571
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: Here we go, wise Guy. In three two one.

572
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: It's time for the wise Guy the World's Bestest Growing

573
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: Cardinals quiz show. The stakes are low, the winner gets

574
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Here's your hostess with the mostess.

575
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: Denny's sir, right, I am sad to say, I'm unprepared.

576
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 5: I don't have my pen.

577
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 4: I don't have a pen to lend her. Is why

578
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 4: he's always dialed in later there's no one more professional

579
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 4: and more prepared than Paul Castles.

580
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 5: Not forget Paul is our reigning champion.

581
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: Oh that's also true.

582
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: Right, this is a week to week league.

583
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: Let's go, So, Paul, you get first choice of your

584
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 5: question for some wise guys Seattle trivia.

585
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Well, obviously it's K one. Let's

586
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: right off the bat, let's go number one. Come on,

587
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 2: come on.

588
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: This is so great. This critically acclaimed NBC sitcom set

589
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 5: in Seattle brand for eleven seasons.

590
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, yes, I get.

591
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: The TV questions. Okay, here we go. This critically acclaimed

592
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 5: NBC sitcom set in Seattle ran for eleven seasons and

593
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: was centered around the life of a psychiatrist who hosted

594
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 5: his own radio talk show name the sitcom.

595
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: Literally literally, the light bulb just came on. Fraser, correct

596
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: about that.

597
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: See Paul's on a heater and now I can't get that.

598
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: The one TV show you've ever watched I started with,

599
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the dude who started in cheers. He is

600
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 2: the sidebar guy. Then he got his own, and then

601
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: finally somehow Fraser. Okay, all right, here we go.

602
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 4: Oh we're going to go in order. Here Danny, We'll

603
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: go number two.

604
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 5: In two thousand and two, the Seahawks hosted the Cardinals

605
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: in the first ever regular season game at what is

606
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: now known as Luminfield. In the fourth quarter of that game,

607
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 5: this former Cardinals player returned to kick off ninety five

608
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 5: yards for a touchdown to put Arizona ahead for good.

609
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 4: I sure hope it was Marte Jenkins.

610
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 5: You would be correct. Cardinals won twenty four.

611
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: Come on, come on, By the way, the Seahawks just

612
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: returned a ninety five yard punt return with their fifth

613
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: round rookie out of Colorado State, Tory Orton. Yeah, and

614
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 2: they also blocked a punt. So, Jeff Rogers, you's seeing

615
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: that on film right about now?

616
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: Matters?

617
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

618
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 5: Question three or four?

619
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, You know what, Buddha, I'm gonna

620
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: go four. I'm gonna go. Greg Dortch, here we go doa.

621
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 5: This former Seahawks head coach from nineteen ninety nine to

622
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 5: two thousand and eight, was selected by the Cardinals in

623
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: the eighth round of the nineteen seventy NFL Draft.

624
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, minute, wait a minute. He was also

625
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: the coach of the Packers. Oh my goodness, with Brett

626
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 2: farbre And he was actually the high school coach at

627
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: Oak Grove High School I know in San Jose. And

628
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: his first name was Mike And oh my goodness, I

629
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: can picture him with that mustache.

630
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 5: You know so much about him. Do you know his name?

631
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. If I could cheat, I would right

632
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: now because it's so close.

633
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 5: Dane Holmegren, Darren with the steehawk. Oh if Darren gets

634
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 5: us tracks, boy, I'm sorry, Paul unbelievable Holmgren.

635
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: God, I haven't heard that, Nacy. If I haven't heard

636
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: it in ten years, it's just I have no chance.

637
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 5: Come on, here we go. In nineteen eighty three, Ring

638
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: of Honor member Roy jet Stream Green holed in four

639
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 5: first half touchdown catches and a Cardinals thirty three to

640
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 5: twenty eight win over the Seahawks. Green's performance overshadowed a

641
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 5: great game by this Seahawks legend who had three touchdown

642
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: catches of his own.

643
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 4: I gotta hope that's gotta be large it.

644
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 5: Come on, Darren back in the win column.

645
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I get for not going Buddha Baker.

646
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 5: Normally we would do tiebreakers. Whoever, since we play Seattle again,

647
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 5: I will save those for future use.

648
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: Good.

649
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, thanks for thanks. Let me borrow your pan, Paul. Okay,

650
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 5: don't mad at me. I don't make the rules. Well

651
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 5: I do, it's my game show, but sorry.

652
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: All right, let's go back to dudes who set the

653
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: tone for five hundred Alex mac Wilson Senior. Is he

654
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: becoming that guy? Because he certainly looked like that guy

655
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: out in the field, And one of my sideline reports

656
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: was it wouldn't be the first time that a player

657
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: tries to match a luminary at his same position on

658
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 2: the other team.

659
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: M you know, some good one.

660
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: Someone comes in, They're like, oh, that guy's recognized as

661
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: the best of my position. Guess what I'm going to

662
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: show that dude, I can play the position at a

663
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: really high level as well. Because have we ever seen

664
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: a better game by mac Wilson Senior.

665
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 4: I asked him after the game. I said, you were

666
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: pretty much all over the place, like did it feel

667
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 4: like you were in that zone? And he gave me

668
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: he started giving me an answer, and then he kind

669
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: of pause and he goes, I was just trying to

670
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: be a badass, honestly, And the way he said it

671
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: was like almost apologetic.

672
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: But it was hilarious, right, that's good.

673
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 5: He was all over Christian McCaffery. He was, he was

674
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: on him. What like a tick on a bug? Is

675
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 5: that a good one?

676
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 4: Tick on a dog? Maybe?

677
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: Sure, that's what mac Wilson.

678
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: Tick on a bug. That'd be like a bug on

679
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: a bug. When that says that qualifies a bug on

680
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: a bug, this smaller bug on it.

681
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 5: Well, I tried, and that's what I gets.

682
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, Danny, you know I mean as a

683
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: huge kid rock fan, right, I don't want to profile you,

684
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: but you're a huge kid rock fan, are you?

685
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: Not?

686
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: Kid rock?

687
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 5: Not really?

688
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: Because then you have the famous song American Badass. That

689
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: was like one of his most popular songs. So I

690
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you Mac Wilson senior Arizona Badass? How about that?

691
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: Like that?

692
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 4: And and look, he's the kind of guy who you know,

693
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 4: again you were hoping he'd step up into that. He

694
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: stepped up in the role last year what he was

695
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 4: asked to do. He's asked to step up another level

696
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 4: replacing Kaizier White, and I think he's done that and

697
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 4: he's been excellent, and you know that's I wish the

698
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 4: defense would have come up with a stop at the end.

699
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: And again with Mac Jones, you're hoping he's not gonna

700
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 4: kind of pick you apart. But defensively, you give up

701
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 4: sixteen points, that's gotta be good enough. It's gotta be

702
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: good enough.

703
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: Well, look, every week, it's going to be someone for

704
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: Mac Wilson senior Arizona badass. It was Galvin Kamara, was

705
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: Chewba Hubbard, it was Christian McCaffrey. Now it's gonna be

706
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker, and it's going to be a revamped Seattle offense.

707
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: Just put a forty burger on the board. They had

708
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 2: thirty eight at halftime against New Orleans. Klint Kubiak was

709
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: brought in for one reason. The former OC lasted one

710
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 2: year because he didn't run the ball. He didn't commit

711
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: to running the ball. They were bottom five and running

712
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: the ball. Mike McDonald wants to play, you know, all

713
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: out defense, and he wants to run the ball. And

714
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: with Kenneth Walker, now of I'm not buying it yet.

715
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to see this Seattle offensive line in

716
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 2: person before what they call it revamp, new and improved,

717
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: but certainly looked like against New Orleans.

718
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: A A Q. Shipley was is a fan of their

719
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 4: offensive line. Clearly, I will say, like again, the Saints

720
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: in their first road game, not a great team. Clearly

721
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 4: fell apart. I remember seeing at one point when it

722
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: was twenty three to twenty one to three, Seahawks were winning,

723
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 4: but the Saints had more total yards because there had

724
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 4: been the punt return, block punt and the block punt.

725
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 4: Like I would expect the Cardinals to play a cleaner

726
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: game than the Saints did, especially in a home game.

727
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: But we're gonna find out the Seahawks. By the way,

728
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 4: as I'm bringing up the Seahawks before I forget if

729
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: you're going to the game, remember it's a five point

730
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 4: fifteen kick. Remember the traffic, especially downtown, is horrific from

731
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 4: like one pm on, go early. Just thought i'd say.

732
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Speaker 2: That it's good, Okay, a nice psa from Darren Urban,

733
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: But that is that's a really sage advice. Yes, get

734
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: over there early, and yeah because the weeknight games during traffic,

735
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: no doubt about it. I'll say this too about this

736
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: Seahawks team coming in, they're actually a lot better on

737
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 2: the road than they are at home. You realize they

738
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 2: went three and six at home. Last year, they have

739
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 2: lost seven of their last eleven home games. I blame

740
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: it on the sign guy in the front row by

741
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: the visiting tunnel. I just think he's bad karma. At

742
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 2: this point, we.

743
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: Can't save this until when we go to Seattle.

744
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, just I'm throwing it out there.

745
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,439
Speaker 4: I'll keep waiting for you to say so they kick

746
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 4: ass on the road, and here they come.

747
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 2: No, they've won seven in a row on the road.

748
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: You don't want to know their record at State Farm

749
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: Stadium since twenty thirteen.

750
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 4: I've lived it.

751
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: You don't want to know that record one. So there

752
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: is that tie in there. The most physical regular season

753
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: game I've ever seen, and I confirm with a Q.

754
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: Shipley the most physical regular season game he ever played

755
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 2: in the Seattle Slugfest six to sixth high.

756
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 4: You can tell Earl Thomas says hello by the way.

757
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: One we dubbed him the Earl of middle Finger is

758
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: with what we dubbed him. Still my favorite Pete Carroll

759
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: moment when he's getting the middle finger salute from Earl

760
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: Thomas from the Cardinals sideliners, he was being carted off.

761
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, am I seeing this right now.

762
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 5: What is going on?

763
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: You talk about bad blood between a player and a

764
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 2: head coach. That's that was next level. That's an all time.

765
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: That's an all time Seahawks memory.

766
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 5: Oh the only other memory I have on Thursday Night

767
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 5: football for the Cardinals since working here, was the last

768
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 5: time the Cardinals played Thursday night football at State Farm

769
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 5: Stadium against the New Orleans Saints. And it was cornerback

770
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 5: Marco Wilson with that interception where he is some ressaulting

771
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 5: into the end zone and Dawn is just putting his

772
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 5: head in his hand.

773
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: That's Indy Dalton and not that that's an all timer. Yes,

774
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: that is as an all timer, there's no doubt about it.

775
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 4: It is weird that the Cardinals haven't played on Thursday

776
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 4: Night in a couple of years like it used to

777
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 4: be you did every year and then then they kind

778
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: of did away with that and then they just said no,

779
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 4: no primetime games for the Cardinals.

780
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: What's uh okay? So any final thoughts keys to the game,

781
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: any other standouts from the Niners game? How about Rabbit?

782
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: Rabbit told us on the radio side he had messed

783
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: up that same exact play and practice more than once,

784
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: and they got it right in the game. So apparently

785
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: they did a pretty good job of scouting the Niners

786
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: in that pass play because they had replicated it identically

787
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: apparently in practice.

788
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,959
Speaker 5: Second time we heard that Week one in New Orleans,

789
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 5: we heard the same about rookie cornerback Will Johnson. That

790
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 5: big hit Chris a lobbit at tackle for loss. We

791
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 5: were told that was something Johnson worked on in practice.

792
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: He saw the same look in a game and he

793
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 5: was able to take advantage.

794
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 4: Speaking of Rabbit, bigger picture, like, I thought, the the

795
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: beat up secondary played pretty well. You know, there were

796
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 4: a couple moments. Ricky Piersall absolutely got off and I

797
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 4: understand although the big pass on the fourth and two

798
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 4: that he caught, I thought Key Troll Clark had really

799
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 4: good coverage. It was a great throw and a great catch.

800
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 4: And again sometimes they make plays. But I thought, held

801
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 4: up Max Mountain, We're all sitting here thinking, oh my god,

802
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: he might go on ir Then he practiced, but he's

803
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 4: still questionable. Oh my god, is he gonna play. He

804
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 4: missed one snap, so I guess he's okay. And and

805
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 4: I just think generally, you know, they're they're gonna need

806
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 4: to play well, the kid from Seattle, and I'm drawn

807
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: a blank. Yeah, he's off to a I think he's

808
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 4: on pace for like eighteen.

809
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 5: Hundred yards receiving yards ninety six.

810
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 4: After the game, you're gonna have to watch that stuff.

811
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 4: But again, this is gonna come down to the trenches.

812
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: You already mentioned the offensive line with Seattle. The defensive

813
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: line with Leonard Williams is a problem and was a

814
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 4: problem for the Cardinals last year. And with all these

815
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: run game issues, I worry about that can and and

816
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 4: I don't want to sound like a Homer guy or

817
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: you know, trying to pump up like the organization, but

818
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 4: I truly believe I know some of the things that

819
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 4: are planned in terms of with the lights of Thursday

820
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: night football and the game presentation with the rivalry. This

821
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: is the rivalry game where they're going to wear their

822
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 4: new uniforms the field. I do believe that there is

823
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: going to be an energy in this building that the

824
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 4: Cardinals are going to be able to feed upon. Now

825
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: they have to make it work, and energy in the

826
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: building doesn't complete passes twenty yards downfield. But I do

827
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 4: believe there is going to be an energy there to

828
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 4: feed upon and now it's up to the Cardinals to

829
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: hold on to that and make it work in their advantage.

830
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: Cardinals have won six of their last seven home games

831
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 5: dating back to last season. This defense is going to

832
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 5: have to show up, which Arizona's defense has. They've allowed

833
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 5: an average of just seventy six rushing yards per game,

834
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: which is fourth best in the league. So they have

835
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: done a nice job stopping the run for a banged

836
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: up secondary. They have also done a nice job if

837
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: you look at the numbers, they have forced their quarterbacks

838
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: to be one dimensional. So when you're looking you're saying,

839
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 5: oh my gosh, the Cardinals defense is giving up significantly

840
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 5: more passing yards. It's because they're taking away the run.

841
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 5: They are making these offense is one dimensional with a

842
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: very banged up secondary. What's also been nice is we

843
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 5: heard from defensive coordinator Nick Roalis, We heard from Gannon

844
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 5: at the start of the season they wanted and needed

845
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 5: more turnovers from this defense. That's what they've done. Two

846
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: weeks ago, you had the strip sack that was recovered

847
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 5: for a touchdown. You had to pick off some more

848
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 5: pressure from the defense. And then in San Francisco, rabbit

849
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 5: Taylor Demerson with the interception and big man Kalaeis Campbell

850
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 5: with what was a tie breaking safety for two points.

851
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 5: So this defense is not just forcing turnovers. They're putting

852
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 5: points on the board. They have to continue that success

853
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 5: against a pretty good Seattle offense.

854
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: Here's my walk off. Kalais Campbell, according to Next Gen Stats,

855
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: had the fastest get off in Week three of any

856
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: defensive lineman in any game this year. How is that

857
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 2: possible at thirty nine years Sure that's not a typo.

858
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Kalayis and he's playing ball, but

859
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 2: are you kidding me?

860
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 5: Aging backwards?

861
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 4: He should have had the game winning play two weeks

862
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 4: in a row. That safety he drew should have been

863
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 4: the game winning points. It's like he had the sack

864
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 4: to end the Panthers the week before. I'm like that

865
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 4: he's getting that kind of production.

866
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: Nuts and he is a case study and saving your

867
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 2: best for the biggest moments, like he knows like he's

868
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 2: just got something in the bag. Chandler Jones was that

869
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: way a lot too, right when there was a guy

870
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Speaker 2: to have a moment. The best pass rushers they have

871
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: something that they haven't shown yet, or maybe they showed

872
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: it to you early in the game, and they're going

873
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: to come back to it in a different way to

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00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: set you up in the moment.

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Speaker 5: It's just there's some players where you know you can

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00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 5: count on them in those big time moments, don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I would be bereft if I left out

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00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 4: our picks this week.

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Speaker 5: You could leave him out this week.

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00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't. We don't have Monday Night Football in

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00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: here because we're recording it before the game, so we'll

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00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 4: have to add that in next Well.

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00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: That means we shouldn't mention if it's not complete, it's

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00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: not worth mentioning.

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00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 4: But I did notice that I went ten and four

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00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: this week, which is amazing, because the way the game's

887
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: played out, I thought I was horrible.

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00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: It was just sort of a cursory thing. He noticed

889
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: it by Champ.

890
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: Paul went eight and six, and then, much to Paul's dismay,

891
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 4: Danny fell to seven and seven. His conspiracy theory is

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00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 4: all over the map.

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00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 5: Okay, right now.

894
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 4: On this season, I'm thirty three and eleven, Paul twenty

895
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: nine and fifteen, Danny twenty six and eight.

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 5: TENO that far behind. That was really behind last year? Paul,

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Speaker 5: Do you want to know why I picked Detroit over Baltimore.

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00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: You have to hear this.

899
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Speaker 2: So here's where Danny started. And then she elevated to

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00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: hear in week two and then we said fishy, fishy.

901
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: Now she tried the heat was on her, so she

902
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: went back to five.

903
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 5: End of the season. You're going to look back and

904
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 5: paint a really pretty picture over.

905
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: There, Paul.

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00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 4: You absolutely have to hear the has.

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00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 5: Originally, when I sent in my picks, I had Baltimore

908
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 5: over Detroit, and then I saw this online. Actually, no,

909
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 5: I saw this online before, and I was like, I'm

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00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 5: not going to use this reason. So I went Baltimore

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00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 5: over Detroit. And then I was thinking about it and

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00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 5: I said, I need to go with my gut. So

913
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 5: just a few hours before, I.

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Speaker 4: Can't go with this gut. So I'm going to pick

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00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 4: this because of what I saw.

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00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 5: I went back, Yes, listen to this. The Lions are

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00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: playing the Ravens during a waxing crescent moon. The Lions

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00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 5: are nine and one on these moons in the last

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00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 5: two seasons. How can you not pick Detroit?

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00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: Information?

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00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 5: Okay, I really need the lines to pull through Monday night.

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Speaker 4: Waxing crescent moon.

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00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: All Right, so we started with leaving your heart in

924
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: San Francisco and we end with a crescent moon. Okay,

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00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: all right, so I don't know. The third thing is

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Speaker 2: these things happen in threes, so let's just hope it

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Speaker 2: happens to the Seahawks. Is the third on Thursday night,

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Speaker 2: And that'll do it for this compressed week edition of

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