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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully

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Speaker 2: everyone is doing outstanding out there in the real world

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Speaker 2: living life, like Mike McDaniel and the Miami Dolphins who

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Speaker 2: just got bludgeoned on Thursday Night Football twenty eight to

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Speaker 2: four days, get Lamar back and dominate, throws a bunch

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Speaker 2: are the Ravens really going to win this division? Rough

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Speaker 2: night for al Michaels, And we'll hit on a couple

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Speaker 2: other things. It's Fugazi Friday, so I get a couple

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Speaker 2: And we'll also do uh Stucky. He will be joining

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Speaker 2: us as he does every Friday, talk about the NFL,

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think there's much to take away from

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Speaker 2: decide immediately what's gonna happen and what's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. You're charging, especially plays like Minnesota,

428
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 2: a lot of money to be in these suites, to

429
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: have these good seats, Like you're asking people to give

430
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 2: their time to watch you play. Their time is your

431
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 2: most valuable assets. How you pay for everything. So when

432
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 2: you suck like it's a problem. And especially given their

433
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 2: situation who he's replacing, who looks like he's taking Seattle

434
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 2: to the playoffs. So there is a tangible pressure on

435
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy, not even debatal. Just like all these young quarterbacks.

436
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 2: There's pressure on Caleb Williams to play well this year

437
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: because next year is not guaranteed on the Bears. If

438
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: you think I'm crazy for saying that, you just haven't

439
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: been falling the same league I've been falling, it is

440
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 2: what it is. There's lack of patience in everything we do.

441
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: That's just the way our society works now. So you

442
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 2: either adapt to it or you just keep complaining about it.

443
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 2: It's no different my job. I wasn't able to generate revenue,

444
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,640
Speaker 2: and this podcast didn't get people listen, this podcast would

445
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: exist on the volume. This is pretty black and white

446
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: to these industries we all work in. And when you

447
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: get drafted really high and you go to a good team,

448
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: the expectations are pretty high. You don't get to just

449
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: ease into things. So the pressure on JJ McCarthy this

450
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 2: weekend is immense. I actually think there's some underrated pressure

451
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 2: on the Bills because the Patriots clearly are not going away,

452
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 2: and most of us expect them to play pretty well

453
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 2: and probably beat the Atlanta Falcons. And if you just

454
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 2: look at the Patriots schedule like they're just gonna end

455
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: up winning twelve thirteen games, well, if you're the Bills,

456
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 2: you've already dropped a couple. You've already lost the Patriots,

457
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 2: and you got to go play them in New England. Now,

458
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 2: in theory, you got still got the better quarterback, you know,

459
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 2: accomplished coach. It's not like you're gonna be quote unquote

460
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 2: underman when you're playing them. But you lose this Chiefs game,

461
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,679
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we look around and go, God,

462
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: are we sure that they're gonna win the division? And listen,

463
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: two things. When I was gambling to do some parlays

464
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: on division winners, I didn't even touch the ravens of

465
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: the Bills because their odds were so bad and I

466
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: thought they were just like, listen, I'm not even messing

467
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: with that. I'd be stunning if they didn't win, but

468
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: not even playing. The Bills were like almost four to

469
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: one favorite to win, the minus four hundred to win

470
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: the division. And you beat the Chiefs, who you've handled

471
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 2: before in the regular season, you're still in good shape.

472
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 2: You lose this game, all of a sudden, they've beat

473
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 2: you and you're one game behind them again, assuming they lose,

474
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 2: because they have another game where if they beat the

475
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons, like, let's face it, the Atlanta Falcons be

476
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: three and five, and all of a sudden, we'd be

477
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: talking about is Ray Morris gonna make it to the

478
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 2: end of the year, Like is he gonna survive? And

479
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 2: when the season ends and they win seven games after

480
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 2: trading their first round pick, are all these guys getting fired?

481
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: And this is when you kind of start like the

482
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 2: McDaniel thing. We knew coming in they were gonna suck.

483
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: We knew it was gonna go bad. Lee shocking thing

484
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: we've ever seen that we're talking about him, you know,

485
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: losing his job, getting fired like that happens. But when

486
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: you look at Atlanta, you could have made the case

487
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: Atlanta was a ten win team this season. I thought

488
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: it was on the table. Now I bet again. But

489
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: it's like I could have seen a scenario and now

490
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're three and five, Well, you

491
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 2: got nine games left, you're gonna go. You'd have to

492
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: go six and three in those nine to just get

493
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 2: to nine and eight. You're definitely not going seven to two.

494
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 2: You haven't proven anything, but more than likely you're a

495
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 2: four and five team, a five and fourteen, and if

496
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 2: that's the case, you're under five hundred, missing the playoffs again.

497
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: So to me, the Bills like they got to win

498
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: this game just to hold serve with the Patriots. J. J. McCarthy.

499
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: People are gonna have sling in some takes because everyone's

500
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 2: gonna be paying attention to that game. And this Atlanta

501
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: thing could get really weird, really fast, because the trade

502
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,119
Speaker 2: deadline is next week, and this kind of solidifies like

503
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: if you're a team in the mix, you're obviously not

504
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: selling off any pieces, and some of these pieces are

505
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 2: just guys that are gonna be free agency. You're not

506
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 2: gonna re sign. So it's like, hey, would you trade

507
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: this guy right now for a fourth or fifth round

508
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: pick instead of just playing out the season. If you're

509
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 2: a playoff team, it's worth it to have that guy.

510
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: And then you look at the real bad teams. It's like,

511
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: are the Jets gun trade players? Do the Titans have

512
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 2: any players to trade? You know? If the Falcons lose

513
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,239
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys on Monday Night? Like, are they in

514
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 2: the business of trading some of their guys? Who would

515
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: even be that tradable Boodha Baker type? Does he even

516
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: want to leave? So it's like usually the trade deadline

517
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: historically in the NFL has been the most boring. It's

518
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: definitely amped up over the last couple of years because

519
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: we have a lot more aggressive, you know, kind of

520
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 2: young gms. But I just don't know, maybe like a

521
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons, But my expectations for the trade deadline would

522
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 2: be a lot of like, you know, kind of smaller

523
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: trades that we've seen, like so and so have traded

524
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 2: for some corner that most people have never heard of.

525
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: That would be my expectation. So if a blockbuster comes,

526
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: I think we would all be knocked back a little bit. Okay,

527
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: I'll get you out of here on this because it's

528
00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 2: Fugazi Friday. I got too Fugazi's for you. My first

529
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 2: Fugazi when NBC in the NBA reunited and it was

530
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: announced that the NBA assigned this new deal with Amazon Prime,

531
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: new partners no longer with TNT, they've reupted with ESPN,

532
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 2: and they're getting back with NBC. So we're gonna hear

533
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 2: that NBC theme song. I think I didn't watch it,

534
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: but I heard someone's talking about, like Bob Costas has

535
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: been doing intros. They're kind of doing a throwback for

536
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 2: my youth. When I think about the NBC. When I

537
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: was a kid in the NBA was dominating. It was

538
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan on Sunday mornings against the Knicks or the Pacers.

539
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: It felt no different than watching Packers Lions or Chiefs Bills.

540
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: It was a really big deal that I don't know

541
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: anyone with a pulse that likes sports that missed so

542
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,959
Speaker 2: once they announced that Michael Jordan the greatest basketball player

543
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: and just one of the coolest universally respected individuals was

544
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 2: coming back and gonna be on the broadcast. I was like,

545
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 2: this has gotta be cool. Not even that my expectations

546
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: were that big. I didn't expect him to see like

547
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 2: three times a week sitting on a studio. But when

548
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: they announced Michael Jordan NBC gonna work together, I was like, huh,

549
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 2: I'm Michael gonna slingk some takes like Michael gonna be

550
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 2: like shitting on a guy. It turns out that Mike

551
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: Turco did an interview with Michael Jordan at Michael Jordan's house,

552
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: and let's just say the interview was an hour long,

553
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: and they have taken snippets of this interview and they

554
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: just show a little bit week to week. That is

555
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: the reunion of Michael Jordan and NBC. He really is nothing,

556
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 2: and I don't blame Michael. One thing I appreciate about

557
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 2: Michael is in this world where we know everything about everybody,

558
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 2: especially famous, rich people, we don't know that much about Michael.

559
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: We only know that he likes to booze, smoke cigars,

560
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,719
Speaker 2: and play a lot of golf, which we've known for

561
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: thirty plus years. But just in terms of he ain't

562
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: tweeting he ain't Instagram and he lives a life pretty mysterious,

563
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: and this is kind of classic Michael Jordan. It's like, yeah,

564
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: I'll let you announce that I'm coming back, but I'm

565
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: not really coming back. I'll just have Mic over. He

566
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 2: can come and hell, he can stay the night. Well

567
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: we'll have a few cocktails, watch a game after we

568
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: do the interview. But this is what I'm giving you.

569
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: It's like what And I blame NBC, and as an

570
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 2: NBC hater because I love golf, and when they have

571
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: from the Ryder Cup to the US Open, their product

572
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: is by far the worst. You talk about an operation

573
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: running a fugazi NBC and they're branding of this Michael

574
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Jordan relationship all timer and last but not least. I'm

575
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: not proud to say this because as I've aged, you

576
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: can't outrun a bad diet. Really resonates with me. But

577
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: most of my life never been in great shape, but

578
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: I could eat relatively what I wanted, and I've always

579
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: worked out. I think it's kind of helped my stress

580
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: levels and helps me sleep. Working out is not my share.

581
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: I can work out seven days a week, but as

582
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: you get older, your diet kind of dictates your body

583
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: more than working out you can outrun. It's very true.

584
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: I have a sweet tooth. I love sweets. It's one

585
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: thing I struggle with as I get older of just

586
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 2: no ice cream, no candy, nothing like that can be

587
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: a downfall of mine. I could actually kick carbs for

588
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: a month and no problem. It's usually sugars that are

589
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: my problem. So over the course of my forty years

590
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: on this planet, and definitely the last twenty five, I've

591
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: meann a lot of candy in my day, a lot.

592
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: And I love Halloween. Like most people like eating candy.

593
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: I can slam the Minis Reeses, Snickers, Milky Ways all day.

594
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm more of a chocolate guy than the Starburst sour

595
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Patch kid that not that I hate that, but like

596
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: I think there's a line of delineation between the two.

597
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: My wife, a lot of people I know love that

598
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: type candy. I would never even crossed my mind to

599
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: buy that type candy if I'm in a store, if

600
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: I'm in a gas station or whatever. Well, one thing

601
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: I have noticed, I would say over the course of

602
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: the last ten years, but definitely recently last three or

603
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: four years, I think these companies it's obviously a couple

604
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: of major companies selling you Snickers, Reese's Pieces, Milky Way, whatever.

605
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: I think they're making way shittier of a product than

606
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: they were in years pack. I think the ingredients they

607
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: use are way cheaper. I think it tastes dramatically worse.

608
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I'll just have one of those little Snickers

609
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: or Milky Ways, like the little minies, and think, this

610
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 2: is not good. This tastes like very chemically, it just

611
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: doesn't taste good anymore. And I'm a candy I'm not hating.

612
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: This isn't like a conspiracy theory in the sense of

613
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: like candies really bad for you. I don't care. That's

614
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: not what I mean. I'm just saying the actual product

615
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: and the flavor in your mouth to me, is way

616
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: worse than it was ten, fifteen, twenty years ago. My

617
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: theory on that is obviously probably I guess, less people

618
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: eating crappier foods. So if you still want to sell more,

619
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: you gotta make more. Maybe you make it with cheaper

620
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: ingredients so it's cheaper. So even if you sell less,

621
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: you still make more because it's cheaper to produce. I

622
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: don't know, but you can't convince me that the snickers

623
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: or the Reeses that I'll eat over the next couple

624
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: of days tastes the same as it did in twenty

625
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: ten or two thousand. I just don't believe you, because

626
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: when I taste it sometimes it actually helps me because

627
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: I don't even want to eat anymore because I don't

628
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: think it tastes for it good. It tastes cheap. So

629
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: whatever candies they're slinging, I love Halloween, and anyone giving

630
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: out apples or toothbrushes, you're a fucking loser. You're a loser,

631
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: but be careful. Maybe the bigger ones are better than

632
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: the minis, but I do think the minise is really

633
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: slipping in quality. Okay, we bring him back again because

634
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: I need some good juju. He has molded me into

635
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: hammer some of these dogs to buy low when everyone's

636
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: shortened the team and I have taken that strategy the

637
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks, and I have been getting annihilated.

638
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Speaker 2: These favorites are kicking ass and taking names my main

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Speaker 2: man Stucky from the Action Network. Follow Big Bets on Campus,

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Speaker 2: hard Rock. Bet Stucky. I think you were throwing out

643
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Speaker 2: some numbers last week on the favorites and the overs.

644
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: It's been a good stretch for people just throwing money

645
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: on the good teams.

646
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Speaker 1: Yeah, favorites went foresighting back too many dogs last week.

647
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: Who did I have last week? I had on Sunday,

648
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: I have the Saints. We ended up turning the ball

649
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: over a million times, but it was a Sunday that

650
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: normal that I would have gotten killed in, and I'm

651
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: lucky that I didn't, because favorites went eleven and two

652
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: against spread, which is the best winning percentage on any

653
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: Sunday where I guess for the whole week, they went

654
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: eleven and two. His Chiefs covered Monday, Chargers covered Thursday.

655
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: That's the best winning percentage in any single week in

656
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Speaker 1: the NFL since nineteen eighty five.

657
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, let's just dive right in. You know,

658
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: this is your classic spot where it's like everyone out

659
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 2: on Minnesota. They got some injuries. Carson Wentz just died,

660
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: so hopefully JJ McCarthy can walk, and JJ's back in

661
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: against the Lions in Detroit. Now this is you know,

662
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: he's he's a big deal. In that area because of

663
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,479
Speaker 2: what he brought to the college. But there probably won't

664
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: be many people rooting for the Minnesota Vikings because they

665
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: have JJ McCarthy in that place. This is the type

666
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 2: number that I would have hammered Minnesota over the last

667
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: couple of weeks. But my logic here is pretty simple.

668
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: I think this season's about to really get away from them,

669
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 2: And sometimes you know you screw up a quarterback situation

670
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: because logic like, I don't blame them for doing what

671
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: they did, but it feels like the forty nine ers

672
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 2: went through this. They got lucky brock Purdy, they drafted

673
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 2: the seventh round. He saved him. Sometimes you get in

674
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: one of these situations, you draft a guy high, you

675
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: end up letting Sam Donald walk. All of a sudden,

676
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: you got Carson Wentz dead on the ground. And JJ

677
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: McCarthy's played eight quarters of his career in a year

678
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 2: and a half. So I just think this thing, I

679
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: get to have a good coaching staff, But it does

680
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,959
Speaker 2: feel like Minnesota's It could end here and it could

681
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 2: get really ugly against a team we know how good

682
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: Detroit is at home. I just think this is a

683
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: type spot with Dan Campbell Kelvin Shepard getting some LSU buzz.

684
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: How good has he been? Outdid inning?

685
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: He really had? I mean they you've watched him the

686
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Uh, two weeks ago? Was it?

687
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: When they played Monday night football with Tray Then it

688
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: was like, this is one of the most impressive things

689
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: I can remember.

690
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, a bunch of backups off the street playing

691
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: in the secondary. He also had a really good game

692
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 1: plan against the Ravens for how they contained Lamar his legs.

693
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: And that was Monday. Was that Monday night or Sunday night?

694
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: Well? Both, like there was. I think Aikman was the

695
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: the Bucks game, Yeah he was. And then but a

696
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before then, I don't know if it

697
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: was a Sunday or Monday. I think maybe would have

698
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: been a.

699
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: Sunday, but I think it was Monday night football.

700
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could have been Monday night too. He did

701
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: a really good job against the Ravens. He's been he's

702
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: been great, and they have a ton of injuries.

703
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: That's where I'm taking I'm hammering the Lions here. I'm

704
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: taking the Lions. This number could probably get to ten.

705
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: This got a chance, Ducky, this could get weird and

706
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 2: ugly from Minnesota and it could start early because, like

707
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 2: you said, the defensive coordinator has been in his bag.

708
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: We know Detroit is good on offense. Last time I looked,

709
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: when's last time Minnesota covered anybody?

710
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the Vikings should get Van Ginkle back,

711
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: which is big. They've been using Dallas Turner in his

712
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: place and he's not.

713
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: That have bus Central written all over it.

714
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Speaker 1: It's I mean, you're like, here's the thing with McCarthy

715
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: is what he's shown us. We haven't seen much. And

716
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: by the way, you're right, like the Vikings season easily

717
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: could slip away because you think about it. This year

718
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: they have three wins. They came against Jake Browning, Dylan

719
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: Gabriel and then the Bears in Week one when they

720
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: needed to come back and McCarthy only had one. He

721
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: had that one good quarter. That's all he's shown us,

722
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: is one good quarter. If you look at all his

723
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: numbers so far, they're bad. The company that he's with

724
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: is bad. It's like some of the worst quarterbacks that

725
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: have all fland. Now the sample size is still small,

726
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: so you know he's taken some time off the injury.

727
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: Is he going to come back here if they've extended

728
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: rest Lions also on a by he's going to come

729
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: back here and look better. I don't know the answer

730
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: to that. I think the number is a little too

731
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: I based on where I make it, But I don't

732
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: know if I can trust McCarthy. So I don't blame

733
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: you for going with the Lions at home. Like Dan

734
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: Campbell is just a cash cow and that's all they

735
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: do is cover. He's been great off the buy at

736
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: home indoors. GoF is almost automatic, and like the Lions

737
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: are going to score and everyone. Gof's been great against

738
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: the Blitz. You know, Flores is going to bring the Blitz.

739
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: He's really gotten the best of Flora's over the past

740
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: couple of matchups. The secondary injuries can spare me a

741
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: little bit with Detroit, but from everything I've seen, you

742
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: know Detroit's going to score at home, and I'm not

743
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: sure McCarthy can keep up. So I have no strong

744
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: opinion on it as of right now. But I don't

745
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: blame you for taking the Lions, Like, just take the

746
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Troit and cash sixty five percent of the time. It's

747
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: basically what Dan Campbell has done.

748
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: You know, Tomlin has been winning for a long time.

749
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: And I said a couple of days ago on my

750
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: podcast that we're literally on right now that listen, I'm

751
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 2: done ever saying like, oh, this is time to fire him.

752
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: I don't expect the organization ever wants to say they

753
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: fired him, but like it does feel if his superpower,

754
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: because now if you look, I don't think I think

755
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: he was favored against Seattle week two, they got they

756
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: lost by two touchdowns. Last week the second half it

757
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: looked the Packers are dramatically better. And now if you're

758
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: at home again back to back weeks home Dog, the

759
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: classic Tomlin spot, a place where he was like seventy percent.

760
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: If he can't win those games, and not only win

761
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: those games, but if you're let's say he loses this

762
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: game by double digits, like you are, you're taking steps

763
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: backwards because now we've seen him play Indie, the Packers

764
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: in Seattle, three high end playoff teams. We already seen

765
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: him last couple of years against the Bills and the

766
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: Ravens in the playoffs, not even close we saw the

767
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: end of last year. Kind of feels like we're seeing

768
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 2: that again. Their defense is terrible. It does feel like

769
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: it's starting to go Okay, is this thing really over?

770
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: This is a I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but

771
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: does feel a little bit of a fork in the

772
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,879
Speaker 2: road spot, especially when you look at the way they've

773
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: built their team, like for his Steeler career, Like, if

774
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: he's not winning this game, I think you look at

775
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: the rest of the season, you go, yeah, maybe they're

776
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: not gonna end up winning the division. We're recording this

777
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: before the Ravens game on Thursday night, but even the Bengal,

778
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: the Bengals win this weekend, it's like, all of a sudden,

779
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: he's got the fight to win this division. That's pretty crazy, stucky,

780
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: and I think the Steelers are in trouble.

781
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Ravens are actually favored to win the division right now

782
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: at two and five, which is insane, Like you can

783
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: go bet that and the Ravens are the favorites.

784
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: That is beyond insane.

785
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Now, the Ravens have a ridiculously easy schedule.

786
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: If you know, when anyone's listening to this, they would

787
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: you already know the result of the game against the Dolphins.

788
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: But after this week they have this is the quarterbacks

789
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: they face coming up McCarthy, Gabriel Fields, Flacco, Rogers twice Flacco,

790
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: and then at the end they have Rogers twice. The

791
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: end of the season, it's they host the Patriots and

792
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: they go to the Packers. So they could rattle off

793
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: like six or seven straight wins here and the Steelers

794
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: schedule obviously it's tougher. And then the Ravens played them twice,

795
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: so they can really make up ground. But yeah, I

796
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: went this is the Thomas spot that I trust. So

797
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: I got to the window.

798
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 2: You're right back to back being home underdogs and losing

799
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: the first lake.

800
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: That closed last week at two and a half. Like

801
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 1: the Packers, I still the Packers better than the Colts.

802
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: Like the difference for me this week on why I'm

803
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: trusting the Steelers is I still think the Packers are

804
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: a couple points better than the Colts. Now some disagree,

805
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: market might disagree, but the difference between the the Colts

806
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: offense has been historically good, so are this year now.

807
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 1: Granted their schedule has been pretty.

808
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: Laughable, but still like never put right.

809
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to play the Titans twice for Jonathanillors

810
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: six touchdowns against the Titans this year, I'm crazy and

811
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: They've played nothing but indoor games and two games in

812
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: so far. Their only road game outdoors was in Tennessee

813
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: when it was eighty degrees against that joke Titans defense.

814
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: So this is like outdoors in some conditions. But the

815
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Steelers defense it's bad. It's they're underperforming because their talent,

816
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: like Joey Porter is a good corner, he's not playing well.

817
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: You have Ramsey there, you have your defensive line, but

818
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: now you lost your safety and Deshaun Elliott. I'm curious

819
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 1: to see what they do if they shake up the secondary,

820
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: if they shake up some of their coveragers, because the

821
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: defense has been really poor this year. But I think

822
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: that the market's gone a little too far on the

823
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: Colts especially.

824
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 2: They can get their their DB's look slow. That's part

825
00:42:59,440 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: of the problem.

826
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't run Sleigh Is. I think watched they've

827
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: been starting to swap him out for Echos. It's yeah,

828
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: the defense is very problematic, but so I don't think

829
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: they're really gonna slow down the Colts enough. You might

830
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: get a classic like Pittsburgh Voodoo. Some turnovers here, Daniel

831
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: Jones maybe overdue for one of those games. The Steelers

832
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: also have a big kicker advantage in this stadium, which

833
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: is the hardest to kick in the NFL, which maybe

834
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: plays a role, but I just think the Steelers offense

835
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 1: can keep up. The difference between the Colts and the

836
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: Packers to me is the Packers have a really good

837
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: defense and the Colts right now do not because their

838
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: corners are hurt Travarious Ward being on ir Jalen Johnson,

839
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: They're outside corners right now are extremely weak. They also

840
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: are the worst in the league at defending tight ends well.

841
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: The Steelers use multiple tight ends on fifty five percent

842
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: of their snaps, one of the most tight end heavy

843
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: offenses in the league, and the Colts can't cover tight ends.

844
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: Linebackers say these really struggle in that aspect, so I

845
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: think the Steers cand take advantage of that. The should be

846
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: able to run the ball. Rogers can kind of methodically

847
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: move the ball down the field. The Colts don't have

848
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: a pass rush like the Packers either, so I think

849
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers can keep up here. I think it's too

850
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: many points for what it's worth. When Tomlin closes as

851
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: a dog of three or more, he is forty twenty

852
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: one and three against the spread. Sixty five point six percent.

853
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: Most profitable coach of all time in this spot eleven

854
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: two and three against the spread at home, covering by

855
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: eight points per game. That's eighty five percent. And when

856
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: that opponent has a winning percentage of sixty percent or

857
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: more ten to one in one against the spread, covering

858
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: by ten points per game. This is the rah Ras spot.

859
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: This is off back to back losses. He could have

860
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: said that about last week. Yep, you would have been wrong.

861
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: But history says that he covers these more times than not.

862
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: And I just think that the line is to I

863
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: think that this should be slightly under three. So I

864
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: took the field especially I can get like three in

865
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: a hook, even you have to pay for it a

866
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: little bit. I do like that. And a lot of

867
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: it has to do with the matchup of the Steelers

868
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: offense versus the Colts defense. We'll see if Austin and

869
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: Tom and can cook up something defensively, because nothing really

870
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: has been working. I mean, yes, they wanted New England,

871
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: but it took like five turnovers to shut that offense down.

872
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: They were moving the ball. That defense definitely has the problems.

873
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna need what in company to cause some turnovers

874
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: to slow down the Colts this week. But I think

875
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: the market's gone a little bit too far on the Colts.

876
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: I've been wrong with four. But I did bet the Steelers.

877
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 2: They didn't even say I mean, yeah, granted they hit

878
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 2: him a couple of times and he pulled off some

879
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: miraculous throws, but no sacks. It's like, man, we're paying

880
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 2: a lot of money for the D line, TJ. We

881
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: need you to be you know, Miles Garrett or something here.

882
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get why they paid what I would not have.

883
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: Like, it's he's been very hit or miss. When he's

884
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: been good, he's been good, but he's also been in

885
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: in MIAI. So he's been like an older player.

886
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then all that money at this at his

887
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: age right now, where it's like it feels like a

888
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: team that needs to just blow it up eventually and

889
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: start over. You got to find your quarterback of the future.

890
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: But they're like, hang on. If you're a Steelers fan,

891
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 1: it's like, how for how many hitters are you going

892
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: to be nine and eight? Go to the playoffs lose

893
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: your first game. I mean that's something when a playoff

894
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: game is in I don't know, twenty sixteen, a.

895
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 2: Long time ago.

896
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's been like the same story ever since,

897
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: been Big Ben retiring. Even at the end of the

898
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 1: Big Ben's career, it was kind of the same. And

899
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: you know, now they have Rogers. I just heard them

900
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: say they want Rodgers to come back next year.

901
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: It's like, well, he has been the least of their worries,

902
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: but it hasn't. The other thing is hasn't got cold yet.

903
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: Remember last year got cold. And you know they're different players.

904
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 2: Obviously Rogers been in RUSS but some of that. You

905
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: look at their schedule. He's going to be playing in

906
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: some cold ass games in November and December. So we'll

907
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 2: say that's a good point something for me to keep

908
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: an eye on it. You know, this isn't a unique game.

909
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: And I told you this before we hit record is

910
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: this isn't a perfect parallel. But like when Jim Harball

911
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: was hired with the forty nine ers forever, it was like, ah,

912
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers have a lot of good players

913
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: and you just need a real coach. They could be

914
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: a frisky team, be like a wildcard team all of

915
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 2: a sudden midway through the seasons, like this team's really good.

916
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 2: Because they're winning all these games. The dust settles that

917
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: they had the number one seed. Now Eli ended up

918
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 2: beating him in the AFC Championship game, but they hosted

919
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game after having like a seven eight

920
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 2: year run of embarrassment. I mean one point in time,

921
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll turned him down to stay at USC. It

922
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: was pretty matt Lioner. Rumors were that he you know,

923
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 2: he didn't declare to the draft because he didn't want

924
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: to go to the forty nine ers, like it was

925
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 2: bleak that they were treated like the Jets a little

926
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: different in New England because it hasn't been that long.

927
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 2: But Vrabel clearly has instantaneously made them a real team.

928
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: Now they benefit from the schedule, but he's a big

929
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 2: time coach, and it does feel like are we going

930
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: to look up? It's like are the Patriots about to

931
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: win twelve or thirteen games? And like they're in the

932
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,959
Speaker 2: mix to win the division. And on the flip side,

933
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: it felt like last week was like the moment when

934
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: everyone got on board, is like, is were him and

935
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: everyone in this organization gonna get canned at the end

936
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: of this year because they wait, they gave the owner,

937
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 2: or they got the owner to give ninety million dollars

938
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: to a quarterback last year that they benched and then

939
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 2: as the highest paid backup in the history of the league,

940
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: came in a game and looked atrocious. And now it

941
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: feels like he's kind of coaching for his gig, not

942
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: like he's gonna get fired midseason. But you go three

943
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: and five like, this thing get away from you fast.

944
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 2: So this is like I bet against New England as

945
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 2: a big favorite over like two of the last three weeks.

946
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: I've been burned, so I'm not gonna do it. But

947
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: and there's no way I could trust Raheem Morris. And

948
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: as of recording this, I don't even know who their

949
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 2: quarterback is this week, but I think Atlanta they lose

950
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 2: this game especially and don't even cover this bread again

951
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: five and a half points on the road against New England.

952
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 2: This thing could get really ugly stucky, really fast.

953
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I did play the Falcons. It's a little scary.

954
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean down the road they have not looked like

955
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: the same team. Now, granted they didn't look they looked

956
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: better indoors last week. This is just like this is

957
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: similar to the Colts, like I'm taking my stand here

958
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: that the market has gone a little bit too far. Now.

959
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: I bet, let's see there's still a six out there.

960
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: I would look for the six if you can find it.

961
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,839
Speaker 1: I just think the market's gone a little too moore.

962
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: I mean, like, the Patriots were seven point favorites last

963
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: week at home against Dylan Gabriel, and obviously they get upgraded,

964
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: the Falcons get downgraded. But the Falcons played with Kirk Cousins,

965
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: who look lost. There's no Drake Lennon there without three

966
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: or four defensive starters, and they just came out in

967
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: the days. It happens in the NFL, and this is

968
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:34,720
Speaker 1: a spot that I love. Historically, teams off a loss

969
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: by more than two touchdowns when they are favored by

970
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: seven or more. So, the Falcons favored by seven last week,

971
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: got blown out the next week. They're thirty three and

972
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: sixteen against the spread over the past twenty years, sixty

973
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: seven percent. They covered by over a field goal per game,

974
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: twenty four to nine and one. When they go on

975
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: the road after that happens ten to three and one

976
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: against the spread. As a road dog of more than

977
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: a field goal, that's just a fancy way of saying

978
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: a big, big favorite got embarrassed. It's the NFL. Teams

979
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: are never as bad or as good as a week.

980
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: The next week after that happens usually gonna get their

981
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: best effort, and in this case, the Falcons should be healthier.

982
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: On defense. One of the things that they do best

983
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: is that they prevent explosive passing plays. They're second in

984
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: the NFL in that department. That's a huge part of

985
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: Drake May's game. I mean, he throws an elite deep ball.

986
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: He's been deadly in that department. Falcons do a good

987
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: job of preventing those. They also can get some pressure

988
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: when they're healthy, and they should be much healthier. They

989
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: do miss de Bouton Diablo, their linebacker. They got Bertrand

990
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: in there. He's just terrible, but hes he really they

991
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: really miss him in the running game, run defense, but

992
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: New England's run game isn't that great. And this New

993
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: England offense, this New England defense is not good. They

994
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: can stop the run, but they have issues in coverage.

995
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,800
Speaker 1: Their linebackers specifically can't cover. So I think, like Bijon

996
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, I think that Drake London should

997
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: be back this week. That's huge. I mean, not having

998
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: him last week just killed the offense and then Cousins

999
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: looked lost and washed. And I think Pitts can have

1000
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: a big day here. They should be able to move

1001
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm expecting Penis back. Looks like he's trending up.

1002
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: I think the defense will be healthier, And I mean,

1003
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: this is a Patriots team. Look, I may is the

1004
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: real deal, and you're right, they're gonna win. Most likely,

1005
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna win double digit games assuming they stay healthy.

1006
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: They've been one of the healthiest teams in the league

1007
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: this year. They've also been pretty fortunate a fourth downs.

1008
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: Maybe there's some regression coming there. They're ten to twelve

1009
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: and fourth down the opponents are just three and eleven.

1010
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: Those things are huge swings in games. But this is

1011
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 1: a team that did lose at home to the Steelers.

1012
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 1: They did lose at home to the Raiders. You got

1013
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: to keep that in mind and their wins. They had

1014
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: a really impressive win at Buffalo. There are other wins.

1015
00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: The Dolphins by six, they blew out the Panthers, the

1016
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: Saints by six, they blew up the Titans, and then

1017
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 1: they blew up Dylan Gabriel and the Browns, and the

1018
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,439
Speaker 1: Browns defense is just not the same on the road.

1019
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel is not the type of quarterback that's going

1020
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: to throw the bounds one of the past once you

1021
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: have to throw on this newing on defense. And I

1022
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: think Atlanta does have the personnel because I'm expecting Penix

1023
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: and I am expecting London back. So I did play

1024
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta Bilo sell high spot. I'm expecting a max effort,

1025
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: expecting a healthier team. I do think we're getting close

1026
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: to the peak of the market on the Patriots, not

1027
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: I could be wrong in that aspect. There are you know,

1028
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: every year in the NFL, there's I shouldn't say every

1029
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: most year in the NFL, there's usually a team that

1030
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,240
Speaker 1: the market can't.

1031
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: Catch up to commanders last.

1032
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: Year, yep, and they're just you know, you upgrade them,

1033
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: like when I outgrade teams, I don't like, all right,

1034
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna upgrade them, you know, astronomically in one week. Right,

1035
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: it's incremental and you try to make your best guess

1036
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: of how much better this team is than what you

1037
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: thought coming into the season, and your prior is still

1038
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: a matter up to a point so sometimes the market

1039
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: can't catch up their team, and it works on the

1040
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: other end, to the other end of the spectrum, there's

1041
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: some teams at the market just can't get right of

1042
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: how bad they actually are. And that's why you have

1043
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: a team like the Titans who are four and twenty

1044
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: one against the spread over the past twenty five games.

1045
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: It's just on the fathoms. I'm guilty in a I've

1046
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: been very guilty in the past. I was the head

1047
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:17,479
Speaker 1: of that train last year and the market just can't

1048
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 1: you can't get them right. There were some Browns teams

1049
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 1: back in the day that would always take sharp money.

1050
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: I used to pat them all the time and they

1051
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: just were so bad, and but you would say your

1052
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: numbers would be all right. This has gone too far,

1053
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 1: But really, in reality it hasn't because the market hasn't

1054
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: botten val yet and there's a chance that we haven't

1055
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: reached the peak. On the Colts offense, this really is

1056
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: and the Colts and the Patriots are very similar. You

1057
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: have their offense has been great, Drake may has been great,

1058
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones been great. But they've played like soft schedules.

1059
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: Their defenses have holes. But they're both six and two

1060
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: against the spread. They both continue to cover and maybe

1061
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: we're just we haven't gone far enough yet. I'm taking

1062
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: a stand. I did fade both of them this week,

1063
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: so I did bet the Falcons and the Steelers. Wish

1064
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: me luck.

1065
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,919
Speaker 2: Remember there was like might have been Flora's year one,

1066
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: So would that have been like nineteen or eighteen when

1067
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: they were like it would have been nineteen because they

1068
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 2: were kind of tanking for a quarterback. I'm pretty sure

1069
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: they got a couple of lines that got near twenty

1070
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 2: maybe over twenty against the Patsy that was I think

1071
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 2: that's like the biggest line in the covid ones hard

1072
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 2: because some guys didn't the teams didn't have quarterback or whatever.

1073
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 2: But like actual football games, I remember that Dolphins team

1074
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: with Flora's got pretty ugly, pretty bleak. I kind of

1075
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 2: missed that, and and I talk a lot of shit

1076
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 2: about the NBA for tanking. You can't have that. But

1077
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, like every five years, have something situation

1078
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: like that would intrigue me. Agreed thet they got a

1079
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: great punt team. It's like Bilchu.

1080
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: Broncos Jags twenty thirteen. The Broncos, I believe her twenty

1081
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: seven point favorite. It's hard to even think about.

1082
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 2: And they ended up the biggest NFL line of like

1083
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: the last couple decades. Probably it has to be. Yes,

1084
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: there was a game where like, well it was the

1085
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 2: final score of that game.

1086
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: Thirty five nineteen the Broncos one, so the Jags. The

1087
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: Jags were rowing five, the Broncos were five and zero.

1088
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: The Broncos at Peyton manning really good defense. The Jags

1089
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: were starting Chad Henny who ended up throwing for three

1090
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 1: hundred in that game. Oddly enough, and uh.

1091
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: That line wouldn't be that big today, would No, that

1092
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: is insane.

1093
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: There was a line this is a COVID year when

1094
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: the in the COVID. During COVID, the Saints went to

1095
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: the Broncos and had no quarterbacks left. Yeah, and they

1096
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: had to start a Wake Forest wide receiver at quarterback.

1097
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 2: And that came sick.

1098
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: They were like, I think it was like plus seventeen.

1099
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: The total was like thirty four. I ended up betting

1100
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: the over end. I stupidly bet the the Saints with

1101
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: a wide receiver a quarterback. He did play some quarterback

1102
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: in college, but.

1103
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 2: I thought it was Denver that played the wide receiver

1104
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 2: at the quarterback.

1105
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: Yes, you're right, because it was You're right. You're right.

1106
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: I got that mixed up. They were playing the Saints

1107
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: and they were catching like seventeen and a half at home,

1108
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: and I ended up betting them in the under. And

1109
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: I think the final score was, like I want to say,

1110
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,280
Speaker 1: it was like twenty eight to three or something.

1111
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: It was rough. I remember watching because I wanted to see.

1112
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: It was one of the worst games I've ever watched.

1113
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 2: Those are bleigue times. Thank god, we're never going back. Yes, okay, okay,

1114
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Broncos, you nailed the Houston game last

1115
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: week that the rest didn't hit him because the forty

1116
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 2: nine ers roll out of defensive line that was not

1117
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 2: capable of taking advantage of anybody. That's not really the

1118
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 2: case here with the Broncos. The problem is is one

1119
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: thing that really stood out in that Niner game as

1120
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 2: Colton mckivitz. They just gave him an extension, which I

1121
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: think we can debate whether that's smart or not because

1122
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: he plays a guy like Will Anderson. Will Anderson looks

1123
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: like he's Derek Thomas or fucking Lawrence Taylor. He was

1124
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: dominant in that game. Now, Denver's got a good offensive line,

1125
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: but Houston's defense is really good. I mean the Will

1126
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: Anderson is a monster. You know that guy. I would

1127
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 2: love for that guy to be on my squad. It

1128
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: does feel though this offensive line for Houston and I

1129
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: get there Missus Certan, who's one of the best players

1130
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: in the league. And I think Riley moss I was

1131
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: watching the game last week and that he got like

1132
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: three straight pi's and they're like, hey, leads the league

1133
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: by a wide margin. I mean right after I said

1134
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 2: that he's getting some p i s. But that offensive line,

1135
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 2: you know, CJ looked awesome, but he had all time

1136
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: to throw. I don't know if that's gonna be the

1137
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: case here. I think I I kind of like Denver

1138
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 2: a lot. Now this number has come down. I looked

1139
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: as more as plus one and a half. But it

1140
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 2: does feel like a matchup game, tough spot for Houston.

1141
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna beat Houston, but I can see

1142
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: the case. I've made this case for the Texans four

1143
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: and against before, and it's the case you just made.

1144
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: Like strouding Away is a pressure merchant, like if he

1145
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: is not under pressure because that offensive line is so

1146
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:23,479
Speaker 1: bad he can carve up defenses if he is, and

1147
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: that offensive line is very vulnerable, and you go up

1148
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: against elite defensive front like we saw it against the Rams,

1149
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: we saw it against the Seahawks, the entire offense collapses,

1150
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: and you're certainly going up against an elite defensive front

1151
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: and Denver and they will certainly bring the blitz. Strout

1152
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: of struggled against the blitz as well, So I wouldn't

1153
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 1: blame anyone for taking the Broncos with that logic. However,

1154
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if Denver's defense can be as effective

1155
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: without Sartan, Like the ripple effects without him are massive,

1156
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: Like he basically takes away one side of the field,

1157
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: takes away your number one receiver, and it allows them

1158
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: to be so aggressive. It allows them to have so

1159
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 1: much flexibility in aggression. Will they still have that, I

1160
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: don't know. They might play a little They played a

1161
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: little bit more conservative last week, but they had a lead,

1162
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: so it's hard to read too much into that. But

1163
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: it's a big drop off from him to Abram's drain

1164
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: and Detexans should have Nico Collins and Christian Kirk back

1165
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: this week. That's pretty big Broncos also a dead last

1166
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: and league covering running backs out of the backfield that's

1167
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: been Woody Marx has given them a little juice in

1168
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: that department. So that's a way that Houston can potentially

1169
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: move the ball. The young receivers for Houston did look

1170
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 1: a lot better last week. I think they can carry

1171
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: some of the momentum over and it's not going to

1172
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: take much to win this game. The totals forty indoors

1173
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: for a reason. These are two great defenses. But at

1174
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like I'm it's especially the

1175
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: set one, I'm taking Stroud over Nicks. I'm taking the

1176
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: Houston defense over the Broncos defense, especially with that's heir

1177
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: ten and they're at home, and this is like this

1178
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: Houston defense, they're like similar to the Colts offense. Not

1179
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: enough people are talking about how historically good this pass

1180
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: defense has been for the Texans. This year, they are

1181
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 1: number one in the league by a wide margin, and

1182
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna play a lot of quarters, They're gonna play

1183
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: a lot of zone and bo Knicks has been miserable

1184
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: against both this year. And I mean, you look at

1185
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: this Broncos team. Yes, they have six wins, but man

1186
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: that they've been lucky. They beat the Titans at home

1187
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: by one possession. They beat Jake Browning, they beat Justin

1188
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: Field by two in London, they beat the Giants at

1189
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: home by one when they were down twenty. They came

1190
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 1: back from down seventeen to three against Philly to win

1191
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: by four. Then last week they blew out the road Cowboys.

1192
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: It was an impressive win. Knicks was impressive, but the

1193
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense, Like, if you look at Nick's numbers this year,

1194
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: most of his damage that he's done has come against

1195
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 1: the Bengals defense, the Cowboys defense, and then the Giants

1196
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: defense when they and they didn't do anything to the

1197
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: fourth quarter when the Giants lost all their defensive backs.

1198
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: This is a big spot for bo Nicks. I mean,

1199
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: this is this is if you're gonna take Denver seriously,

1200
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: he plays well, then you feel good.

1201
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: If yeah, and he doesn't get over well like you

1202
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: just got like, because the Denver's defense is probably like

1203
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: the Houston offense is not gonna light the world on

1204
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 1: fire any week. I mean even last week. They were

1205
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: up at one point in that game four fifty to one,

1206
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: fifty yards. They had the ball, the entire and then

1207
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 1: it's like a one possession game. You're like, yeah, what

1208
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? So Nick doesn't even have

1209
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: to be great, but he can't be a disaster. And

1210
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: he's had games where he's a disaster. But it's still

1211
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: okay because the Denver defense is so good and but

1212
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: and they're playing against a defense it's not elite. Well,

1213
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: this is an elite defense. There is no certain So

1214
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Houston. But your hypothesis and your

1215
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: premise on just saying like, look, the offensive line is

1216
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: gonna hold up. That's gonna be the difference. I can't

1217
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: follow you for that logic.

1218
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to the main events. Chiefs have Buffalo. Obviously,

1219
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo has played really well against them in the regular

1220
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: season over the years, but they have never beat them

1221
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, right zero to four, And I don't know.

1222
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 2: To me, it's hard not to love the Chiefs in

1223
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 2: this spot. They go in they win, not only would

1224
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City be one of the hottest teams in the league,

1225
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: it'd be hard to see them like, yeah, they're probably

1226
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 2: gonna win the AFC again, assuming things they held it

1227
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: because the quarterback looks awesome. Their offense is dramatically better

1228
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 2: with Rice Back and Hollywood Brown in there. Their running

1229
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: backs are all playing well. They avoided disaster. Jacob just

1230
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, sprained his need and you know you saw

1231
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: like him be pretty a static when they checked it

1232
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 2: out for the ACL and everything was good on the

1233
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: sideline with the trainer. I don't know something. I know

1234
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo dominated last week, but I mean it's like, what

1235
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: do you even make of that? As someone that had

1236
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 2: Buffalo at the beginning of the season to go to

1237
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. I don't know. It just feels like

1238
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: I just don't think their personnel is good enough on

1239
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 2: defense when the dust settles, and that they're gonna get

1240
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 2: a big time test this weekend because I think, you know,

1241
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 2: over the years, I don't know if the Chiefs the

1242
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 2: motivation hasn't quite been the same in the regular season

1243
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: as the way they obviously get up for the playoffs.

1244
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna take this game pretty seriously. You know,

1245
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,320
Speaker 2: they got to buy I would expect the Chiefs a

1246
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: little kitchen sink game here, like, hey, motherfuckers, we're back

1247
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 2: fully back. I think you're gonna get a full you know,

1248
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson, like right swing from Andy Reid this week

1249
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: with some stuff they got in their back box, especially

1250
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 2: after last week. They you could tell after like the

1251
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: third it's like this stage called off the Dogs. You've

1252
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,480
Speaker 2: been on this forever. You know Andy is not a

1253
01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 2: college coach. He's not running it up like Signetti. I

1254
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: think this week Buffalo better be careful because I think

1255
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are kind of come in firing.

1256
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish I had a hot take on this game.

1257
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: I really do. I mean, like, in order to bet

1258
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs here like she's minus one and a half two,

1259
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: like you'd have to make this like just from a

1260
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: pure projector if this is how you bet, you'd have

1261
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: to like to show value, and I'd have to make

1262
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: them like at least over a field goal, like after

1263
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: adjusting for home field. Like so we're saying like that

1264
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are, you know, four four and a half

1265
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:52,479
Speaker 1: points better than the Bills in order like that, would

1266
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: that would be enough for me to say, Okay, I'll

1267
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll lay it here.

1268
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 2: We'll this line be if they were as game was

1269
01:04:59,080 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 2: an arrowhead.

1270
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, like I guess it would because you're.

1271
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 2: Just doing that in a neutral field the way you're

1272
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: looking at it, right.

1273
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm no, I'm saying, like on a neutral field,

1274
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: that's how much better they would have to be. And

1275
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: then you adjust for home field, you know, and I

1276
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: would make it slightly for a field goal. Then I

1277
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 1: could justify taking this price. Now, the Bills have defensive injuries.

1278
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: I get Oliver going on, I are their linebackers are

1279
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: banged up, their staties are banged up, and that's been

1280
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: the biggest issue on their defense. And they really haven't

1281
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 1: played anyone this year and they're LOSTO the Patriots, the

1282
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 1: should have lost the Ravens. The rest of their games

1283
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 1: have been you know, you're playing the Jets, the Dolphins,

1284
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: the Panthers. So it's hard to really get a true

1285
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: read on just how trouble this defense is, especially with

1286
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: some of their injuries up front. Now their run is

1287
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 1: very susceptible, but that's not really the Chiefs game. But

1288
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 1: also they can be attacked like their States is gonna

1289
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 1: attacked their linebackers right now, and can be attacked over

1290
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: the middle of the field, and that's somewhere where the

1291
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: Chiefs certainly can take advantage of. I do think like

1292
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: in a way we were at the peak on the Chiefs,

1293
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: like we've seen their offense, Like they're laying two points

1294
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: at Buffalo, and how much higher can you get on them?

1295
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I mean, the Ravens were

1296
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 1: considered number one in the league coming into the year,

1297
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: at the top dog. They were favorites to win the

1298
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And they weren't even this high in Week

1299
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: one at Buffalo. So yeah, I just can't get there.

1300
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: And like, look it's Josh Allen at home. They lose

1301
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 1: like once every eighteen months at home, and they did

1302
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: already happen this year, but maybe that's their one loss. Now.

1303
01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: The Chiefs offense is trending up. But let's remember they

1304
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 1: played the Washington defense which had like everyone hurt, no

1305
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 1: pass rush. They played the Raiders when Crosby got hurt,

1306
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are just a mess. And that's their

1307
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: last two weeks. So it eyes looked a little And look,

1308
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: they've had offensive line injuries. Not gonna matter against the

1309
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: Raiders at Crosby and washed in the last week. If

1310
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: there's one thing Buffalo can do, it is they can

1311
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: get pressure. But to me, this just it's just just

1312
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: screams who's gonna have the ball last. You know, Allen's

1313
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: gonna put up a fight. He uses legs a ton.

1314
01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: He averages like ten ten attempts per game every time

1315
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: they played the Chiefs. So he's gonna extend drive. He's

1316
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 1: gonna put his body on the line like this. This

1317
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: is an all out Allen game too. I agree with

1318
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get the kitchen sink from the Chiefs.

1319
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 1: Like these games are even more important to them. It's

1320
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: not like they have a five game lead in the

1321
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: division right like their division, they started behind the eight ball. Like,

1322
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 1: these games are very important.

1323
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 2: There's a massive game for both teams.

1324
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: I mean huge because the Bills also now their Bills

1325
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: are used to just running by the division. They have

1326
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots, so for playoff positioning for everything. So I

1327
01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 1: think you can get both teams best shots. I think

1328
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: it'll be an awesome game to watch. If either team

1329
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: goes up like ten, I'll be betting the other sidelive

1330
01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: most likely because either quarterback will easily their team back

1331
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: in the game. And yeah, I think this will just

1332
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: be a heavyweight fight that will be awesome to watch.

1333
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: But I don't really have that out of a take.

1334
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 1: But the Chiefs offense might just be too much for

1335
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: the current state of this Bill's defense. But then again,

1336
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, Rundy is vulnerable this year, and that's

1337
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: what everything starts for the Bills with their run game,

1338
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: which I think they'll be able to get going here,

1339
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: and then like it's just gonna be Allen making plays,

1340
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: Holmes making plays like there's not much mystery here. It'll

1341
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. I'll probably look the bet at Live.

1342
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do the quick primetime games. I don't like.

1343
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 2: I love Seattle in this spot coming off of Bye Washington,

1344
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 2: licking their wounds. Just had a road Monday night game

1345
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 2: at Arrowhead. Their defense looks so bad. I mean, the

1346
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 2: guy's been a legendary player, but God, Bobby Wagner looks slow.

1347
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 2: So and anytime you're middle linebacker, like this isn't nineteen

1348
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 2: ninety two. You're playing all these teams that are spreading

1349
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: you out, all these running backs and tight ends can

1350
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: really catch you, kind of get exposed in space fast.

1351
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: And I just think, Seattle, I've been you, and you've

1352
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 2: been on this guy for a long time. If McDonald

1353
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:15,479
Speaker 2: was an offensive coach, I mean, I think Seattle has

1354
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:17,640
Speaker 2: a very good chance that they can get healthy. Like

1355
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 2: if they are healthy, you know, like they're gonna be

1356
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: really good. Now, Sam Donald's gonna have that kind of

1357
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 2: elephant in the room, like what's he like in the big,

1358
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 2: big games? But holy shit, he look good. I think Seattle,

1359
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 2: I think Washington. We talked about it last week. They're

1360
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 2: in major trouble. Now they're in real trouble. And like,

1361
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: to me, I don't even think they're in trouble. They're

1362
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:37,720
Speaker 2: just not very good this year.

1363
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,680
Speaker 1: Defense is bad, the offense is banged up, and that

1364
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,120
Speaker 1: fourth down barons that I was talking over there came

1365
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: coming back to buy.

1366
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: Andy Reid just said it. He's like it was a

1367
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 2: difference in the game. They went oh too, and we

1368
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: got some biggest pots with turnament touchdowns and it's a game.

1369
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: That was it, and that last year they were getting

1370
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: all those fourth downs. Now there's no McLaurin. Tunsall's banged up.

1371
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: Daniels is gonna play. But how healthy is is he

1372
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: fully mobile? Obviously when he is fully mobile, but like

1373
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,240
Speaker 1: he hasn't been the same quarterback as last year. Was

1374
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sophomore slump. But also like

1375
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: the timing's been off. He didn't get to work with

1376
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: the receivers leading up to the season, and every week

1377
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: there's different receivers playing, So like this offense is nowhere

1378
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: close to where it was last year. Now teams kind

1379
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 1: of know their tendencies, know what Cliff and company want

1380
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: to do with Daniel, so it's just not the same operation.

1381
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: And then the defense you mentioned like Lattimore, he's over

1382
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,639
Speaker 1: the hill, mentioned Wagner that against the Seattle play action.

1383
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: Wagner is going to be in trouble there. And Washington

1384
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,240
Speaker 1: can't generate any pressure because of all their defensive line injuries.

1385
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been decimated up front, and their secondary

1386
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: wasn't very good to begin with. And now you have

1387
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 1: Seattle coming and new Ken generate pressure without blitzing at

1388
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: one of the top rates in the league, and their

1389
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: secondary is only getting healthier. You mentioned coming off of

1390
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: by Washington short week. The McDonald if Silks and McDonald

1391
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 1: have been tremendous on the road throughout his tenure. The

1392
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: only thing that gives me pause here is like just

1393
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: the uncertainty with mclauren, which would lead itself to it

1394
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: would only help the Seattle side, or are we is

1395
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: this the bottom of the market on Washington? It isn't

1396
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: like a savior season all in spot like you lose

1397
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: this game at like your season is it's close to done?

1398
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,560
Speaker 2: Like just so?

1399
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: And are we like at the peak on Seattle? I'm

1400
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 1: not sure we've gotten there yet, but that would be

1401
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: my one concerns. But I do think Seattle has significant

1402
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: advantages on both sides of the ball against this very

1403
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: beat up Washington offense that it just doesn't have the

1404
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:46,640
Speaker 1: same the same dynamic without McLaurin stretching the field, and

1405
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't enable you to do a lot of the

1406
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:49,759
Speaker 1: things that they want to do, And just the offense

1407
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: in general hasn't been as good because of some of

1408
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 1: the reasons that I mentioned before. So yeah, I think

1409
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: Seattle's a real player in the NFC.

1410
01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 2: You know, one thing looking at their stats from two

1411
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: thousand and twenty four is they were so potent scoring

1412
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 2: with the run game. I mean, Brian Robinson eight touchdowns

1413
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 2: for him, Jane Daniels ran for six and he led

1414
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 2: the team in rushing, and McNichols and Eckler combined for

1415
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: any touchdowns. It's like right now, they're they're depending on

1416
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 2: the seventh round rookie who is talented and I know

1417
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: people in the NFL that liked him a lot, but

1418
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 2: that's their running game was just a potent kind of

1419
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: it was a group unit. It's not like they had

1420
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley, but led by Jane Daniels,

1421
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,880
Speaker 2: they were pretty and losing Eckler, I mean, he was

1422
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 2: really good out of the backfield. It just a threat

1423
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 2: to catch the ball. Like they're just not like their

1424
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 2: offense doesn't seem very well rounded. They can throw some

1425
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:43,719
Speaker 2: bombs at Terry McLaurin, but that's about all they got.

1426
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 1: This week. Yeah, it's nowhere close to the same unit

1427
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: they called lightning in a bottle the last year. And

1428
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: not to say Daniels is not gonna be great, but

1429
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: this year looks like it's heading toward a lost season

1430
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 1: and the league is kind of that they're gonna have

1431
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 1: to adjust because the league's adjusted to a lot of

1432
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: what Cliff was doing with him last year and that

1433
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 1: they've just been decimated by injuries. Like that's sometimes that's

1434
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: what happens, and you lose a season because of it.

1435
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean look no further than your forty nine ers.

1436
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even trying to keep track of

1437
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers who's playing like it's a full

1438
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,480
Speaker 1: time job. I Like, last week they go in completely decimated,

1439
01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 1: and then like Winter's and Collins Alliett, like all these

1440
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 1: other guys get hurt. The list of who's on a

1441
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: high rn who's questionable every week, and then you don't

1442
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: even know who's starting a quarterback there.

1443
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 2: Well, they are a team that at this point in

1444
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,839
Speaker 2: time it's like just stay away from. Like I couldn't

1445
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,160
Speaker 2: even bet them against the Giants because it's like I

1446
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 2: don't know.

1447
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they the Giants also a ton of injuries too.

1448
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: Well exactly. But the other thing with the forty nine ers,

1449
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: like they can lose guys during the game, so like

1450
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they could be halftimes, like ah

1451
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: Kittle's out and McCaffrey's questionable to come back in, so

1452
01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 2: you just at any moment it could completely unravel. They

1453
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 2: they've That's a game that to me is a stay

1454
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 2: away game because like, oh the Giants suck the Niners.

1455
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know who's playing for the Niners.

1456
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: Ricky Piersall ain't massive a game. I agree, Uh, it's

1457
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: that game is It's funny now it's twenty I mean,

1458
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 1: credit the Kyle for getting into a five and three,

1459
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: but it's hard to see.

1460
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: If he wins nine games, it's pretty impressive given the Yeah,

1461
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 2: he's Party probably.

1462
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: The year, like if you gets some playoffs.

1463
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I bet Purdy I'd put his over

1464
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: under games started this year like under four. Right now,

1465
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: it ain't looking pretty.

1466
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, you don't think he plays this week. You

1467
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:33,360
Speaker 1: think it's Shones.

1468
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, just and even if he does, like I could

1469
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: see it being like testing it out it because this

1470
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: isn't a fixable thing, you know, it's not one of

1471
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: them those. So it's like it's gonna linger. And if

1472
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 2: he can't run around, then you just go with mac

1473
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 2: Jones is gonna continue to start Like if we saw

1474
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 2: Party against Jacksonville, he was like fifty percent of himself

1475
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 2: And that's when it didn't even feel as bad clearly

1476
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 2: as it's felt lately. I think there was a story

1477
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: out a couple of weeks ago that were they playing

1478
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: Oh Atlanta. He had tried he had done a workout

1479
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 2: earlier in the day on Sunday because they had the

1480
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: night game and they were hoping like that would propel

1481
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,080
Speaker 2: him into the following week to get last week in Houston,

1482
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,280
Speaker 2: and I don't think it felt good. And these fucking

1483
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: turf tos are he can't function. So it's like I

1484
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 2: have if you tell me, perty has just never seen

1485
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 2: the rest of the year. I believe the Niners just

1486
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 2: try to claw their way to nine ish wins and

1487
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: just see where the dust that was getting the playoffs.

1488
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,720
Speaker 2: It would be an impressive season by Kyle Agree.

1489
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the best thing that they can do is, yeah,

1490
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: clawn to the playoffs and you get to see who

1491
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: are these young defenders exactly are worth keeping around and

1492
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: where your holes still exist?

1493
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 2: Okay, well end with this game Monday night. I don't

1494
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: know if when the schedule came out the schedule makers

1495
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 2: were smiling on this one or were like, yeah, we

1496
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 2: can't hit them all. Dallas hosting the Cardinals. This feels

1497
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 2: like a game from like when we were like in

1498
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 2: junior high. These teams, I feel the Arizona Cardinals doabas

1499
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: they used to be in the same division. They used

1500
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: to play each other a lot.

1501
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 1: Yep, you know, back robably the quarterback.

1502
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, back in Tempe. So uh, I don't know. I mean,

1503
01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 2: I guess if Kyler plays, he's never lost in this stadium.

1504
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:17,120
Speaker 2: That'll be something that this has a feel of Troy

1505
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: being pissed off in the booth now because he's mad

1506
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 2: at any the quarterbacks because he has to he has

1507
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: to call this game. Now. Granted it's probably an easy

1508
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:25,599
Speaker 2: travel for him. He doesn't, he just gets to drive

1509
01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 2: right to the stadium. But I don't know, if you tell,

1510
01:16:28,360 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 2: I like the Cardinals more if Jacobe's starting than if

1511
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: Kyler's starting. But this game's got they got its Monday

1512
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 2: night or most people wouldn't be paying attention to this thing.

1513
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 1: Yep, we're all gonna watch. We know that, so we

1514
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:44,280
Speaker 1: can all complain about the matchup and then we'll all

1515
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: have it on our TV. So in the NFL knows

1516
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: that they have us and they always will. Like, honestly,

1517
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: is there a matchup that this Monday night the NF

1518
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 1: y'all could put on and you would not watch, Like

1519
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: let's say Titans post the Saints. You watch them?

1520
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1521
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they know that.

1522
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 2: Uh, and I know that now I have to that

1523
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,679
Speaker 2: that would be if I didn't do this for a living.

1524
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: Let's say I was in the insurance world, but love

1525
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: football as much as I love football, So I'm still

1526
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: watching a lot of games that could be one where

1527
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 2: if my wife was like, hey, you want to go

1528
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 2: get dinner? You know where you could? You know, there

1529
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,560
Speaker 2: would be like the builds are playing the Chiefs, I

1530
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 2: say no, the Titan Saints, like it can get bad enough.

1531
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,679
Speaker 2: If I didn't do this for a living, I would

1532
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 2: do other things, yeah, if they became, if I was

1533
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 2: asked to do them. Now, if I wasn't asked to

1534
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: do them, I would watch.

1535
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeap all right. Well in regards to this game, That's.

1536
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: How college football works for me a little bit like

1537
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 2: sometimes Saturday night, no way, I'm missing this, and sometimes

1538
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 2: like yeah, we can go get dinner or whatever?

1539
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 1: Got it? Uh yeah, in this in regard to this game,

1540
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: it's sitting right now pretty much juice two and a half.

1541
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: I want a three with Arizona. Basically, I mean, Dallas

1542
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: offense is a different animal home. They're a juggernaut at home,

1543
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:15,639
Speaker 1: Like they they're just gonna score. They're just gonna score

1544
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: in that dome indoors, no matter who you are now

1545
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 1: Arizona's defense is gonna be healthier here. They've been dealing

1546
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,639
Speaker 1: with a lot of corner injuries. They should be healthy

1547
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: on that front. They do a good job of preventing

1548
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: explosive plays. It's a well schemed defense. But Dallas is

1549
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:34,880
Speaker 1: gonna put up their points. However, Like, how's Arizona not

1550
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:37,799
Speaker 1: gonna score? I don't even care if it's Mrrier Persett

1551
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 1: and their offenses look better with Brissette, it doesn't matter.

1552
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 1: It's the Dallas defense every like the Dallas defenses and

1553
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,920
Speaker 1: they have more injuries. The Dallas defense made Bicks look

1554
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:53,280
Speaker 1: like Montana last week. I mean it is. It is

1555
01:18:54,160 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: absolutely atrocious, and so I think Arizona can keep and

1556
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: I do think that there's so like the year. I

1557
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 1: think if I could bet at Arizona and make Dallas

1558
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: beat me by you know, more than three with their defense,

1559
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to do it because I think there

1560
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: is a difference, a perception difference between like who Arizona

1561
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: is and then who they actually, you know, what people

1562
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: think they are, because this is a team that easily

1563
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 1: could be five and two. Now they're two and five.

1564
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 1: They lost five straight. They start off the year two

1565
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,400
Speaker 1: and zero. They lose to San Francisco by one on

1566
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: the road because they dropped the wide and pass easily

1567
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: could have been win, arguably should have been. They lose

1568
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 1: to Seattle, probably got out of play the Seattle on

1569
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: the final play of the game because they messed up

1570
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 1: the kickoff. They lose by three. They lose to the Titans,

1571
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 1: and one of the most bizarre losses you'll ever see

1572
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: because they dropped the ball going in the end zone

1573
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 1: and then there was an interception fumbled for a touchdown.

1574
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 1: They lose by one. Then they played two teams that

1575
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 1: everyone is saying our contenders to the Zuper Bowl. They

1576
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: play at Indianapolis without their receivers, still with defensive injuries,

1577
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: with Persettes starting. They lose them only by four. And

1578
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 1: then they played the Packers and only lose by four.

1579
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: So they've had five losses in a row by a

1580
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: combined thirteen points. Like they're in every game, it doesn't

1581
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: meend some of them have been at Indianapolis has been

1582
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: blowing out everybody, and against Green Bay it's one of

1583
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 1: the best teams in the NFL in my opinion, So

1584
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: like they're they're gonna be around in this game. They're frisky,

1585
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,680
Speaker 1: they're coming off of buy, they are well schemed on defense.

1586
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 2: And like you know that they have a better Their

1587
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: point differential is minus one. The forty nine Ers at

1588
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,679
Speaker 2: five and three is minus four.

1589
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. What are the uh the Bucks probably built

1590
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: some last week.

1591
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bucks are nineteen. So I mean the for

1592
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 2: six and two team with a plus nineteen, it's not great.

1593
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: You know, for example, Seattle's you know Seattle and the

1594
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 2: Rams or plus fifty seven and plus fifty eight, right,

1595
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 2: you know, the Broncos are plus fifty six like most

1596
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: good teams. The Cults are shit plus one sixteen. The

1597
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: Steelers are.

1598
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: Even Yeah, that makes that just makes perfect sense.

1599
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 2: So that the point is, like the difference between the

1600
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 2: Cardinals and the Niners of five and three and two

1601
01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: and five is probably two or three total plays.

1602
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is what football game?

1603
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 2: Which is the NFL.

1604
01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's all it is. At betting too, I

1605
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: always tell people like that, if you bet on a

1606
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,519
Speaker 1: football game, and code is the outcome of the game

1607
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,320
Speaker 1: is usually determined by like four or five plays, your

1608
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: bet is usually determined by maybe four or five plays.

1609
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 1: So a couple turnovers did you get them or not?

1610
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: Three or four fourth downs, did they go against you

1611
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: or not? Those are enormous swinging plays and.

1612
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: Could be could be a field goal hitting the upright

1613
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:41,600
Speaker 2: or not in the up right, And.

1614
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 1: You just have to you love football, You got to

1615
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: live with Sometimes you're gonna run so bad on all

1616
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,120
Speaker 1: those things happening, and then sometimes you're gonna run really

1617
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: well and you won't even notice because you'll say, like,

1618
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: how is the right call? But whenever all those are

1619
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: going against you, you're like, oh my god. But yeah,

1620
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: if I can get three here with Arizona, this team

1621
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: can play with anybody, and this Dallas defense just offers

1622
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: no resistance whatsoever. Arizona should be able to do whatever

1623
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: they want and at least should be an entertaining game.

1624
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: Should be a lot of offense.

1625
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: A couple of quick college things before you get out

1626
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: of here. We brought him up last week and I

1627
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 2: just saw it now with you with rules like kind

1628
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: of fake little extension that makes his buy out a

1629
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: little bit more expensive. And he's also playing Nebraska. I

1630
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: mean he's playing USC this week, which he could lose

1631
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,879
Speaker 2: at home. The Jeff Brahm is now the betting favorite

1632
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 2: to be the next coach or the on Paul market.

1633
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: So like the I guess is that betting favorite or

1634
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 2: just where the odd market makes him? Yeah, prediction market.

1635
01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: F Bram is currently the favorite to be the Penn

1636
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: State Hey coach. He plays Virginia Tech this week. Pretty big,

1637
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 2: pretty big favorite. Obviously, there was a story last week

1638
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 2: about Sark and he got pissed off that he was

1639
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 2: gonna go to the NFL and his team barely pulled

1640
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,000
Speaker 2: a game out of the crevices of his butt. And

1641
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: now he plays Vandy where he's an underdog. I guess

1642
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: Vandy's favorite dog. Yeah, small favorite at home, but I mean,

1643
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 2: are you are you hammering Vandy in that spot?

1644
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't. It's I kind of like the under in

1645
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: that game. The Texas defense is super elite. I don't

1646
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: know if arc is gonna play. I think he is, though,

1647
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 1: so if you like Vandy and Vanny's is a machine

1648
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 1: as an underdog under papya wait, I do think that

1649
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,280
Speaker 1: line is a two and a half and now I

1650
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: was gonna get to like three three and a half.

1651
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Texas has one of the best safeties in the country too.

1652
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: He wasn't supposed to play this speak he pctice because

1653
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: I think he's also gonna play.

1654
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: And this it is like.

1655
01:23:57,160 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: Texas season, Like they needed this game, Vanny, surprisingly, doesn't

1656
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: you know. And now if they don't win.

1657
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 2: If Texas loses, stuck you they got like seven to

1658
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 2: five written all over them too.

1659
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're done now, Vandy. If they lose this game,

1660
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: they will have to win out and it might be

1661
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: a game at Tennessee to end the year to see

1662
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: who goes to the playoff between those two teams. That

1663
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: would be electric. I think that's a neil and stadium.

1664
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 1: But this is a tough spot for Bandy, like they.

1665
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 2: Just went you know, this is there. They normally play

1666
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 2: that game like Texas, Texas A and m or you

1667
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: know Michigan, Ohio State is at the last game of

1668
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 2: the season. Yeah, but usually just haven't noticed.

1669
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tennessie is a huge favorite. I mean, it means

1670
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: something in the state.

1671
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 2: But it's like the big ball, like whatever Rouburn Bama

1672
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,799
Speaker 2: they play that week. I've never even noticed.

1673
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean most people wouldn't. It's usually a completely

1674
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: irrelevant game.

1675
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 2: That's pretty sick. That'll be a big moment in Tennessee history,

1676
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 2: Like this state I.

1677
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Think like there is a good chance that that's an

1678
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: elimination game. We're playing game depending.

1679
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: On how especial Tennessee wins this weekend.

1680
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Now if Tennessee loses, yeah, they're probably done.

1681
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 1: Then then they could knock out Dandy Ben. I actually

1682
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: like Oklahoma in that game, catching three. I think it's

1683
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a close game. Tennessee's offense has played like

1684
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 1: there're three there were wins in the SEC. Have come

1685
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 1: against three teams who are zero to thirteen in the SEC.

1686
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,240
Speaker 1: They have not faced a top elite defense yet, Like

1687
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: the Bama's defense this year is not elite. Georgia's defense

1688
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 1: is not elite. And if you look at like sacrate

1689
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 1: and pressure rate all the teams they face, there's only

1690
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:34,360
Speaker 1: one in the top fifty in sacrate. It's Alabama. They're

1691
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 1: forty fifth. Oklahoma's number one, Zachary number one, and Havoc

1692
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 1: So like Aguilar gets in trouble when you can pressure them.

1693
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: I think the Oklahoma defense is gonna come the player

1694
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm taking the field, But it's gonna be close, though,

1695
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be electric.

1696
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 2: Gun say, if Matier hadn't got hurt and been playing

1697
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:49,520
Speaker 2: at a high level. I mean, there's these chance Oklahoma's

1698
01:25:49,560 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: undefeated right now. He kind of he got injured and

1699
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: then he just turned into a different quarterback.

1700
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he looked a little healthier last week. They've

1701
01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: found a run game recently.

1702
01:25:57,640 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 2: The TENNFL part down the stretch a little bit could

1703
01:25:59,640 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 2: have been right.

1704
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, this is they're hard to rate. I

1705
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: will admit that, Like I don't know, like I still

1706
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm holding them up because I'm giving I gave him

1707
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: a pass for the Texas game because Materier obviously shouldn't

1708
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:15,560
Speaker 1: have been out there and then he was still like recovering.

1709
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,640
Speaker 1: So they're they're difficult to but the Tennessee defense is

1710
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 1: very bad. They it does look like they're their their

1711
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: best corner Colton Hood. They are only good corner is

1712
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: gonna play, but they're missing their two. Respect who we're

1713
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna start Ricky Gibson and Jamal McCoy is probably gonna

1714
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 1: be first from ripping the didn't played all year because

1715
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: of injury. They really missed them. But you can move

1716
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 1: the ball on this Tennessee offense. I mean, like Kentucky

1717
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: had their quarterback last week got five touchdown passes and

1718
01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 1: they were just move. Everyone's moving the ball up and

1719
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 1: new on the field. So I think the difference will

1720
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 1: be Oklahoma's defense, but should be a good game. Mandy,

1721
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 1: I think weight on it. I do think it'll be

1722
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:54,040
Speaker 1: lower scoring. But this is Vandy's like fourth huge game

1723
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,320
Speaker 1: in a row for a team that's not used to

1724
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: like those efforts. And this is Texas's season at home.

1725
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: But wait on that for Bandits. I do think that

1726
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,760
Speaker 1: Arch will get ruled in and it' taff and then

1727
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:10,240
Speaker 1: it'll probably close it up three or above. And then

1728
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: what is the other game you asked about that?

1729
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That's pretty much. I mean the other

1730
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: two I wrote down USC at Nebraska and Louisville is

1731
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 2: a pretty big favorite at vo Tech with Jeff Brom

1732
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 2: getting a lot of love.

1733
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I would love I think Penn State would

1734
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: be great to ire Brown. I think he's one of

1735
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,080
Speaker 1: the most underrated coaches in the country. And what he

1736
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: wins more big games than anyone. He has more Top

1737
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:33,719
Speaker 1: five upsets than anybody. That's what Penn State has been missing.

1738
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: He's an amazing game but an amazing play caller. Uh

1739
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 1: you saw that against.

1740
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 2: Miami what's a knock on him, Like not a huge personality, right, yeah,

1741
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: it's not a.

1742
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:45,680
Speaker 1: Great like the recruiting, like he's gonna need to get

1743
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: someone to do that. Like Louisville has been building their

1744
01:27:48,479 --> 01:27:52,400
Speaker 1: teams in the portal pretty much every year, which like

1745
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: if you're.

1746
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: He's not he's not Dan Lanning or Ryan Day out

1747
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 2: there like hammering the pavement.

1748
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: Exactly, And like if you want to be who Penn

1749
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 1: State wants to be, Like Ohio State is not building

1750
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:06,400
Speaker 1: their team in the portal every year, right, like they're

1751
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: they're supplementing their team. But the same with Oregon. But

1752
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: the best and that's what the best teams are going

1753
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: to be moving forward. The most consistent is that you

1754
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 1: have a pipeline and.

1755
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: You're basically like, I'm hiring you to beat Ohio State

1756
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:23,719
Speaker 2: in Oregon. Yes, yeah, but I do think it would

1757
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: be a good or compete or just compete with them,

1758
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:25,960
Speaker 2: you know.

1759
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I mean maybe it's not the best

1760
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: fit for who Penn State wants to be, like yeah,

1761
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: but I do think go Ever hires him. He is

1762
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: a great coach. No, I think the line's about right

1763
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: at Battech US sed Nebraska. No, idea. You have Matt Ruhle,

1764
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: who's in eighteen against ranked teams, and then you have

1765
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,439
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley. Maybe he just needs to go to Lincoln.

1766
01:28:46,479 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: Maybe his namesake Lincoln Riley. His teams can't win on

1767
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: the road against anyone with a pulse when they travel east.

1768
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 1: USC might miss their backs here. But like this Nebraska

1769
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: team has not been that impressive this year. They barely

1770
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:03,679
Speaker 1: pulled out some wins. They got embarrassed at Minnesota. Thought

1771
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: that was a really poor effort. So I don't know.

1772
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,679
Speaker 1: I don't have a bet in either, but we'll certainly

1773
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: be tuned in the uh Was there any other game

1774
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 1: I wanted to.

1775
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Mention this could be a big week. I've gotten deep

1776
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 2: this week on the message boards, reddits and local podcasts.

1777
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Oklahoma their schedule that they could fall apart here, and

1778
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: there's been some buzz that Venables might not be safe

1779
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,240
Speaker 2: and go after the hometown hero, Josh Hipel. I'll make

1780
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: him a big offer, like there's there's and then all

1781
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,040
Speaker 2: of a sudden, if Josh Hipel went to Oklahoma in

1782
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 2: a couple of months, that would mean Tennessee was open Texas.

1783
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 2: I don't think that story was just you know, Diana's

1784
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,680
Speaker 2: been doing this long enough. I don't think she just

1785
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 2: completely made that out. Yeah, yeah, clearly the Sark things

1786
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 2: a little weird, and you go seven and five and

1787
01:29:55,960 --> 01:29:59,640
Speaker 2: you have an unlimited budget like Ohio State Texas they

1788
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 2: were just never going to tolerate that. So who's to

1789
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: say Vandy all of a sudden, what if Vandy beats

1790
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 2: him by double digits? Clark Lee, it's like, hey, they

1791
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 2: hit struck Oil years ago, getting what's his name from

1792
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 2: North Carolina? More academic, good guy? Would clark Lee make

1793
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:21,559
Speaker 2: some sense of Texas? You know? So it's who's Who's

1794
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 2: clark Lee's agent, Jimmy Sexton. So it's like there's a

1795
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 2: lot going on in the college football world with some

1796
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 2: of these guys. I mean, I think clark Lee could

1797
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 2: really establish himself like, hey, guys, I'm doing this in

1798
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 2: the se fucking c So it's like we're summer all

1799
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,320
Speaker 2: and some of these guys like, it doesn't get any

1800
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:41,519
Speaker 2: harder than what I'm doing. He could become like one

1801
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:43,760
Speaker 2: beat a lane. You start rattling off some of the

1802
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 2: because what he's doing is it's crazier than Signetti. Because

1803
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:51,400
Speaker 2: of the teams he's beating now like he's just working LSU.

1804
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 2: You know, it's like that's he's just he's just gonna

1805
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:57,160
Speaker 2: work Texas Like that's where it's he just wins a

1806
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 2: game like that against Missouri that's a slugfest like this.

1807
01:31:00,000 --> 01:31:02,240
Speaker 2: This is pretty crazy, it really is.

1808
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, this this team used to be a complete doormat.

1809
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 2: Like literally, even Saban's like, Okay, I'm just gonna change

1810
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 2: my tune. I've been used to something. It's no longer

1811
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 2: the case.

1812
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there would be like twenty eight thirty five one

1813
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,120
Speaker 1: hundred dogs in conference play, like just a complete freebe toy.

1814
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 2: J Frankly got pen sate right, It's like, how did

1815
01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 2: he just do that? At Vanderbilt yep.

1816
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they used to have home games where like you would,

1817
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: it would be just empty, but then sections of the

1818
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,920
Speaker 1: opposing fan basis like it was. So it's good to

1819
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: see like that stadium now packed and juduced by the program.

1820
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 1: And they they're putting real money and resources into the

1821
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:42,320
Speaker 1: program now now that they have a nil because before

1822
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:44,360
Speaker 1: it was like just an academic stution. They couldn't be

1823
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: they weren't paying guys under the table, they couldn't build anything.

1824
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Now with then il they're able to do that in

1825
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Clerkly has been a huge part of that. Yeah, they're

1826
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 1: coaching Garcel's nuts this year. Like where's Lane go? That's

1827
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge domino if he leaves. Do you

1828
01:31:56,920 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 1: have Florida, LSU, Arkansas, Penn State? Like South Carolina might

1829
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:08,519
Speaker 1: be open VA Tech which is now way down the list,

1830
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 1: Like do you think Vannibles are safe? No, Like there's

1831
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 1: there's just no patience now with all the money it's here,

1832
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Like I don't know where all this money came. It's insane,

1833
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Like they're just a fifty million dollar buyout, Like fifty

1834
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,560
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar buyouts. I wish someone would pay me

1835
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: fifty million ago.

1836
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: I know I do this for the love of love

1837
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,560
Speaker 2: of it, but uh, it's all of a sudden, the

1838
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:33,920
Speaker 2: Lcross team's not gonna have cleats. You know, they're gonna

1839
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 2: go into the locker room. It's like that it's gonna

1840
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 2: start happening.

1841
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the coaching carousel is gonna be nuts to

1842
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 1: watch this off season. I did bet some Florida plus

1843
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 1: seven and a half against Georgia. You gotta like Napier out.

1844
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,600
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're changing some things on that offense. The

1845
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:50,360
Speaker 1: defense is still really good, will be healthy. This week

1846
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 1: they were without all their debats against Mississippi State coming

1847
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: out of the buy. I think that they can get

1848
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:58,479
Speaker 1: They can jump on Georgia early. And this Georgia defense

1849
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 1: is not your older others dogs like they're outside the

1850
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: top hundred and pressure rate, sack rate, they're not. They

1851
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: don't have a ton of your regular dudes up front,

1852
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,559
Speaker 1: so Lagway's gonna have time. They have weapons on the outside.

1853
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 1: And Georgia has started slow every game this year in

1854
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: five SEC games they're They've trailed by a total fifty

1855
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 1: six to ten combined at the end of the first quarter.

1856
01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy. They got to come back against Ole Miss.

1857
01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: They were almost down seventeen to nothing against Auburn without

1858
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: that blown call. They had to come back against Alabama,

1859
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: They had to come back against Tennessee. They usually could

1860
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 1: have a couple more losses. Now, what you can do

1861
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: if you do bet Florida, or even if you don't,

1862
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 1: is if Georgia does go, indeed go down. Look at

1863
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: Georgia live. Kirby Smart the best thing gave adjuster in

1864
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: the sport. This happens over and over again, where if

1865
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,040
Speaker 1: he's down some adjustments that he makes, he figures out

1866
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 1: some of the new things that the new wrinkles that

1867
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Florida is going to be using, and then Georgia and

1868
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Nevi it'll be comes back. So that's always worth a look.

1869
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:03,600
Speaker 1: He's won the multiple games this year with his in

1870
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,520
Speaker 1: game adjustments.

1871
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 2: Well, looking at the odds to win the national championships,

1872
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:12,240
Speaker 2: obviously Ohio State heavy favorite, is A and M a

1873
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 2: little undervalued at nine to one. I mean, the talents

1874
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:18,200
Speaker 2: they have on that team is just like, geez, well,

1875
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 2: weise they're coaches big time. I'd argue Notre Dame too.

1876
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,439
Speaker 2: I mean they proved last year. I mean when you

1877
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 2: have defense, I mean A and M had three pass

1878
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 2: rushers that all look like von Miller, they have abs,

1879
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,400
Speaker 2: they're screaming. I mean when they were screaming at LSU's guys,

1880
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,719
Speaker 2: I could imagine every dude that's ever played for the LSU,

1881
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,040
Speaker 2: especially in the last like twenty five years, you had

1882
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:43,040
Speaker 2: to just be embarrassed. You're like, that's what we used

1883
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,400
Speaker 2: to do to people. Now that this guy's barking our guy,

1884
01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 2: and you're like, there's no way that guy's gonna block

1885
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 2: him and then he couldn't touch him. I mean he

1886
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: barely could touch him as the guy's coming around the corner.

1887
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,759
Speaker 2: Like von Miller, I went, I didn't. I haven't watched

1888
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 2: that much A and M. But you were like a

1889
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,479
Speaker 2: year early. You liked him to make the playoffs last

1890
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 2: year in their quarterback situation, and this guy is way

1891
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:06,120
Speaker 2: better than he was last year. And defensively, I mean

1892
01:35:06,160 --> 01:35:07,920
Speaker 2: those pass rushers holy shit.

1893
01:35:08,120 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, cash as hell, he's a player. I mean LS was.

1894
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 1: Also they were starting on a backup center attack on

1895
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: yeh shot. It was bad. But yeah, I actually think

1896
01:35:16,479 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 1: Name is the best team in the SEC. I think

1897
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:22,120
Speaker 1: they're slightly better than Alabama, like the Alabama defense. Like

1898
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:24,799
Speaker 1: if you think about it, everyone's like, oh, like Alabama

1899
01:35:25,120 --> 01:35:26,880
Speaker 1: arguably could have lost to Georgia, right, Georgia has a

1900
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: drop that would have won the game. They argumly could

1901
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,479
Speaker 1: have lost the South Carolina last week.

1902
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,400
Speaker 2: Arguably they should have. I mean they got to.

1903
01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: Pick six or in that game that just bounced right

1904
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: into their hands. Like every they got a fumble late

1905
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: to seal the game against Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt a couple of

1906
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 1: red zone turnovers, but that game was back and forth, so,

1907
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: like you know, and they lost to Florida State earlier

1908
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:51,080
Speaker 1: this year. It's not a super it's a very good team.

1909
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Now this had this year. I think the potentially super

1910
01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:56,560
Speaker 1: League team is only Ohio State. Indiana might not be

1911
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: too far behind, but I think a team that could

1912
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:02,920
Speaker 1: potentially because you're not gonna need to score, You're gonna

1913
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 1: need a dynamic offense to be Ohio State. I think

1914
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Texas A and M is one of the handful that

1915
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 1: might have that. And they're well coached, they have good

1916
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:14,560
Speaker 1: special teams, and the most important thing to me is

1917
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 1: they're elite in the trenches. They have one of the

1918
01:36:16,200 --> 01:36:19,840
Speaker 1: best offensive lines in college football. Their defensive line, as

1919
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned with Hound Company, they can get after the quarterback. Now,

1920
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 1: there's some deficiencies in the back end, but I trust

1921
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,679
Speaker 1: Elco to continue to improve that defense. He's more hands

1922
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 1: on this year. But yeah, with that offense, with their

1923
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:35,240
Speaker 1: running game, their receivers Concepcion Graver and the way that

1924
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Reid is playing. Uh, if I had a bet one

1925
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: national title future like current odds, that's probably who we

1926
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:41,880
Speaker 1: look at.

1927
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 2: I love Elco too, It's like you know, you see

1928
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 2: de boor. He clearly, you know, the got the old

1929
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: jab to to lose some lbs over the last several years.

1930
01:36:51,280 --> 01:36:53,759
Speaker 2: It looks way skinnier than he wants to. Yeah, Elko's

1931
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 2: just your classic kind of throwback. I don't give a

1932
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm meeting pizza and co Openhagen, just and coffee and film.

1933
01:37:05,479 --> 01:37:07,720
Speaker 2: We don't have enough Elchos roaming around. I mean, look,

1934
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 2: Ryan days like dying his beard. Freeman's never taking a

1935
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 2: day off the weight room. It's like, I appreciate Elko.

1936
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely a throwback. Yeah.

1937
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:23,160
Speaker 2: His diet is more film, big film, pizza, coffee. Okay, Stucky,

1938
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:25,320
Speaker 2: let's enjoy the weekend and I will talk to you

1939
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: next week.

1940
01:37:30,280 --> 01:37:30,879
Speaker 1: The volume