WEBVTT - A$AP Rocky 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:13.800 Request Left show is a production of iHeart Radio. Actually 0:00:13.840 --> 0:00:17.280 I did have like, you know, the typical multi hyphen 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:19.079 it achievement. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:19.360 Scroll for you. 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:23.680 But we were kind of mid small talk conversation. Go ahead, 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:25.599 finish what you were saying and then I will introduce 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.520 you as if you need introduction, But go ahead. 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:29.920 Well, first off, it's an honor to be here. Good sir, 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:34.040 mister Love you know, mister Rock, how are you? Oh man? 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.440 Never better man? Like I was saying before, I'm gonna 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.239 let you do your lass introduction. But we were just 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.440 talking about trying to keep the chee the energy functually 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:46.680 in one room. So I was just, you know, explaining 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.440 to you how I can't even sleep without a night 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:53.840 light and all the doors close. Where does that come from? From? 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:58.840 A fortune cookie? It said, the ones you love, even 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.240 the ones that's not here with you, are always looking 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:04.280 over you. Oh I believe that. I'm like even when 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.759 I'm in the bathroom, like, oh dude, I'm okay. 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:11.080 So I had a medium situation like I was gifted 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:15.240 a medium for my fiftieth birthday and a shout out 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:17.000 to Larlen Jackson. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.840 Which is like a type of like psychic ability. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.920 Well yeah, I mean initially I thought it was something 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.800 closer to like what will be Goldberg was on and 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:29.920 Ghosts and Ghosts. But yeah, Larlen Jackson is I knew 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:31.640 nothing of that world and she has like the most 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.440 popular Netflix show or whatever. I was gifted her for 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.520 my birthday and the stuff she was communicating to me. 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:40.960 As far as the ancestors that are walking with us 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:43.440 right now, yes they're amongst us. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:48.559 That's exactly why that center scene is so epic. Yes right, yes, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.000 yes it is, so make that introduction all right, Here 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:52.320 we go. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:58.520 Our guest has redefined the landscape of music and fashion, 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:03.320 most notably perception of New York City in terms of 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.960 culture hip hop of course, but just beyond that, I 0:02:07.960 --> 0:02:11.880 can attest that his critically acclaimed albums, notably. 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.120 Long Live Ave Sep. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.200 And I will say that at Long Last A Sep, 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.160 It's good to finally have this conversation with you, because 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:24.320 for Tarik Black thought, at Long Last a Sap was 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.040 always his backstage ritual. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.640 What oh dude, get the fuck up? 0:02:28.760 --> 0:02:31.880 I think even by osmosis, like I know everything by heart, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:32.560 Like what. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.160 Literally I mean you played drums on the Feudals when 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.799 we did right Jimmy Fallon back in the day. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.720 But yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, massive, massive man, 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.480 massive maan. But I'll basically say that our guest today 0:02:45.919 --> 0:02:48.160 has really been. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:50.320 The paradigm shift of the culture of hip hop. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:53.160 I'll say that you'll probably believe the last Mohican of 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.760 the mixtape rappers now that we're totally in the streaming era. 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.200 Of course, you co shared. 0:02:59.919 --> 0:03:02.480 The met Galla, my second one. I was on it, 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:06.120 the super fun Tailor in Black style. Not to mention 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.919 pushing boundaries and your acting starting in Spike and Denzel's 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:14.639 highest to Lewis, I love Roseburne to death, so I 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:20.320 believe that she's going to have an oscar and her 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:22.560 collection for if I had legs. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.040 I kick you. She deserves it. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:28.320 You're currently serving creative director right now for power Asse 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:32.000 brands like Ray Band and Puma, and now you're right 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.840 on the cusp of your next journey in music, curious title. 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:39.680 Don't be dumb. I like this and I don't know. 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.600 I'm just so excited to have you here a sev 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:44.840 Rocky coming to the Quest Love Show. 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:47.120 Thank you man, thank you for having me. Brother. How 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:47.880 are you all right? 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.760 So I want to know what's the first thing you 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.760 did in the first half hour of your day to day. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:56.880 I usually wake up, brush my teeth, check my phone, 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:02.200 show my kids. That's how I started my day, you know, 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:06.720 not in any particular order, but it varies, like one day, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:09.000 depending if it's like if I go to sleep busy, 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.320 wake up busy, sort of like this week and next week, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.880 I wake up and I just answer whatever emails and 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:21.440 text messages I forgot to the previous night, and you know, 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.760 I just go see my you know, get my common sake, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.039 converse with my lady, and go see my kids in 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:28.719 their rooms. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.440 And you know, now that you're about to release this record, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.800 it's the cycle different now, like are you in promotion 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:34.640 mode right now? 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.560 Or yeah, I'm in promotion mode, man, And it's like 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:39.960 now I just I wake up and get straight to it. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.520 I try to go for like a job, hit the 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.200 gym and get my mind right, you know, hit the sauna, 0:04:47.080 --> 0:04:49.520 sweat out. Were you born in Harlem? 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.440 Now I'm just finding out that you were also Pennsylvania residence. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.839 When did this happen? So? I was born and raised 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.120 in Harlem and Bronx the Bronx New York and when 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:03.720 I was around eight nine years old, I moved to Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:08.080 well actually Hershey rather for a Pennsylvanian, then in Dauphin County. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:10.600 Then I was living in harris back and forth from 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.160 New York to Harrisburg, North Carolina, places like that. But 0:05:14.240 --> 0:05:17.120 I might have lived in PA for about like I 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.240 would say a significant amount of time, maybe like six years, 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.400 you know, five six. When I was a. 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.520 Kid, going to Hershey Park was always like a treat, 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.400 you know, like if you get a good report card, 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:28.960 if something will take you to Hershey. I'm you know, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.880 I'm a Philadelphia and so always there. So were you 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.320 a Hershey Park regular. 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:40.159 Or regular that chocolate factory smelling all the cocoa and city, 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:43.920 you know what I'm saying. It's just a crazy experience 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:46.880 when you know, they measure the kids off of like 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:50.360 different candies, right, So it's like if you really short, 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.640 you like a Twizzler, and if you toiler in that, 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:55.560 you're a reces. If you toiler in that, you're Hershey's 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.560 Hershey's chalkol. Like I think it's the smallest is a 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:03.880 kiss Hershey kiss man? You bringing back memories and you're 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.000 making me hungry right now. I say, what. 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:10.599 Are your fond memories of Harlem? Or did you have 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:11.640 fond memories of Harlem? 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.159 Lots of fun memories, man, I mean to this day. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:17.840 I was just in Harlem yesterday out of school and 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.839 you know, just chilling with the kids for some fourth graders, 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.280 teaching them how to rap. I love Harlem, man. Right 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.200 after that, I want to go see my grandmother three 0:06:28.200 --> 0:06:31.320 blocks away from there. Chill well, health for the rest 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.800 of the night. You know, Harlem is just in my DNA. 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:37.599 What I picked up from Harlem. It made me a 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.039 renaissance man, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Harlem is 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.000 the shit man. It's just so much culture to adopt 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.400 from and adapt to, you. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:51.400 Know, you know, for all the boroughs I meant. You know, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:55.279 I'm pushing my twentieth year of kind of denying that 0:06:55.320 --> 0:06:56.919 I'm a New Yorker. I think one I asked to 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.280 live here for twenty years at least ten. 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.880 Well, you were born here, so you're native New York. 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.880 Yeah, all right, I've you know, I'm pushing year eighteen. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.040 So you know, Philadelphia is a very jealous city, so 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.480 I at least do twenty years before I do it. 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.080 So this is how you measure a different like, you know, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.480 being able to like claim a different region. Right, Okay, 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:24.680 you take your age, okay, and you say, with my age, 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.120 you know, was I living you know, in this location 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:32.680 for predominantly more than you know this location? And so 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.520 say if you're like thirty years old, right, and if 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.040 you've been living in Philly for fifteen years, in New 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:43.600 York for fifteen years, I mean right, this it's a 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.080 little toss up. But say if you're living in New 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.960 York for sixteen years, Philly for fifteen I think you 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.080 can claim New York. 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:54.480 All right, give me, give me, give me four your dog. 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:56.559 You you already know Philly is known for booing. 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:58.920 I can't. I don't want to do it. You want 0:07:59.000 --> 0:07:59.720 no trouble man. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.080 So I used to scratch my head often. And you'll 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.800 hear this about like sports cats, like basketball dudes, and 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:09.480 even like some rappers I know where, you know, especially 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.280 in the eighties and nineties, like they would go back 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.000 to their old projects, or they would go back to 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.040 their old neighborhood and whatever, and I'd be like, why 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.880 would you ever want to return there? But then one 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:21.440 day I started doing that where I'll just get in 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:24.320 a car, I will drive down the Philly and just 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:28.600 look at ghosts or like old neighborhoods or whatever. Now 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.680 that Harlem is what I. 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.760 Think it is. I mean, you know, it's very gentified. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:34.319 So totally yeah. 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.520 I was going to say, like super gentrified. Not my 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.000 block though, can you still go home? 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.560 Or is it just not the same anymore? Oh man, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:45.800 nothing is the same. Everything changes, right, But I'll say this, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:51.319 I think the older I get significantly, I have this 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:56.079 kind of innate passion to you know, kind of go 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.599 back to with or started. So at the end of 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.880 the day, let me give you a prime example, Like 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:05.800 if you were like, how were you when you first 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:08.200 got your first record deal and you guys like blew up, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.319 that was twenty two, all right, So if you were 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.880 twenty two when you left the block talking about chilling 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.080 with God, Like depending on the type of person you are, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:22.240 but like typically chilling on a block, friends, cousins, whatever 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:28.160 it is doing you know, block activity, right, chilling, smoking, drinking, joking, rolling, dice, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.320 holing at you know, girls or whatever the case is. Right, 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.800 when you actually find you know, success in what you 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:40.080 like doing and it keeps you preoccupied. Subsequently, it is 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.920 a period of your time or a moment where you 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:50.000 kind of outgrow those activities. Rightfully, so, right but I 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.000 haven't been a teenager for almost going on twenty years now. 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.360 You know what I'm saying, I'll be forty in three years. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:58.360 You believe that shit, you know. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.079 So it's a good thing, yeah, because most of us 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.760 never make it past that line. 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.559 For sure. I know I look twenty six, but I'm 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.080 honest with you. I thought you're still eighteen. But you know, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.920 I'll take it as a compliment. But you know, at 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:12.800 the end of the day, I just let me give 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.200 you an example. Like my grandmother refuses to move out 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.160 of Harlem. She's a true from Barbados. First place she 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.280 moved to was Harlem, back and forth from the Bronx 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.600 to Harlem. She refuses to move out of her building. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:31.000 Everybody's like a community, and it's still like a community, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:34.960 you know, neighbors, neighborhood. So you want to upgrade her, 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.000 but she still insists, She insists she you know, I 0:10:39.040 --> 0:10:41.720 love how humble she is. I just paid the rent 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:45.640 for everybody in her building this month and shoutouts to build, 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:51.920 and you know they were also graceful and thankful and 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:55.640 just appreciative. But the point I'm making is I'm in 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.079 position to go back there now to do something that 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:04.440 is actually, you know, fundamentally positive in a sense, opposed 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.600 to me just going back and doing the same old ship. Right. 0:11:07.679 --> 0:11:11.000 So I went to drop her off last summer, I 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.520 was she was at my hotel and I went to 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:14.800 drop off me and a couple of family members. And 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.120 you know, not the brag. You know, I don't go 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:19.400 when I go to hallm I take the train or 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.839 I take like an anonymous that much. Yeah, yeah, you 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.400 know what I mean, because I don't want to hurt nobody, 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:27.520 Like why would I do that. I'm glad you said that. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.960 I still have my first car and it's raggedy. Is 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:35.360 I have a sign man? You like Warren Buffett dog like? Okay, 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.000 So I'm glad you do that. I get the significance 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.760 of it. And that's the word of to day significance. 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.080 I'm gonna use that a lot. But you know, I 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.079 think every time I do that, we got to take 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.040 a sip of tea or something like every significant got 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:51.600 some coconut water? Is I can tell man, looking cloudy 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:54.160 is good for you. So when I come through, I 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.040 don't want to flex. Yeah, I don't want to do 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:00.319 a lot. I gotta keep it pushing brose for you 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:03.679 to blend in hell no, look at me. Well, I mean, 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:06.800 but that's the thing. Would you roll in this mood 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.120 to Harlem all the time? But I take the train. 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:12.640 I put a pool shisty on. I take the train. 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.719 Sometimes I'm by myself, sometimes I'm with security. I take 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:18.880 the train and keep myself grounded. Gotcha, it's not even 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:22.960 like trying to be cool and shit. I take yellow taxis, 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:27.120 you know, because like Ubers, they do wear shit sometimes 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.400 that they recognize you. They'll call you back there, do 0:12:29.520 --> 0:12:31.800 stalky shit, try to give you a car, be extra, 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.480 you know what I mean, take a record in front 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.160 of I mean, I take a yellow taxi. I'll walk there, 0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:39.319 I'll ride a city bike, you know what I mean. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:43.120 Like I'm from here, I should be able to just 0:12:43.200 --> 0:12:45.240 go back there and relax, you know what I mean. 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.360 And when I go back, I'm not trying to make 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:50.280 brothers feel like my success is they demise. 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.200 So, as a New Yorker, do you have spots that 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:58.360 are like where that feels, where it feels like home, 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.800 where it feels like absolutely. 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.640 I go see my brother Tawhia on the east Side 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:07.840 shout out east Side ta Wi Johnson projects. I go 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.840 to a K. You know, I ain't been the ak 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:12.240 in a minute, though, But I go to Hump forty 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:15.200 if and Lenox my grandmother block all the time. But 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:18.520 if I'm just hanging out, hanging out, I go to Melws. 0:13:19.040 --> 0:13:22.559 If I ain't in Melos in Harlem, I'm downtown a small's. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.160 If not, I'm at Django, you know, at the Roxy 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.760 watching the nice movie or you know, joint the shit 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:36.760 is fly. You know, I've rent, yeah, and to avoid 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.280 or something, let's you know, call some friends and we 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:41.680 just you know, chill out over there. Like that's the 0:13:41.760 --> 0:13:44.640 kind of ship I'm into. I'm in the dive bars, 0:13:44.720 --> 0:13:47.120 I'm in the lounges. I'm in the pubs. I'm not 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:50.240 in the clubs. The club coach is dead. Why the 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.119 hell you want to be around a bunch of motherfuckers 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.120 having a steering contest? What I'm flexing on you for 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.280 about to pay ten x how much your fucking beverage 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.600 licks of course and liquor store and go over there 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.160 and they want to charge you a million dollars for 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.880 a bottle of cos Amigos in nineteen forty two. Get 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.760 the fuck out of here. I could do this in 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:11.520 my living room. Call some friends over, avid gathering, no 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:15.000 widdows around, play some cards, some crazy eights, call it 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.240 a day. Y'all could smoke in peace, y'all could tell it. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.480 We could crack jokes on each other in piece. It 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.120 ain't you know, But that's just where I'm at to 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.360 everybody having fun out there, getting paid and laid, do 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.400 your thing. I ain't judging flock or love you because 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:31.640 at the end of the day sometimes it's like occasional. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.520 But I feel like when you're living in a club 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.600 and you not a promoter, you're not a dancer or 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.000 bartender or whatever the case is, it's like, you know, 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:44.640 that's kind of you know, it's just and more really 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:46.520 backwards for a nigga like me. Man, you know what 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:47.800 I'm saying, Like, that's all. 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.960 The obvious white elephant in the room. You were christened 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:09.640 with a moniker with a name of God rock him. 0:15:10.200 --> 0:15:14.800 I just recently learned that your sister's name is Erica bets. 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.040 When I first heard the origin of your name, I 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:21.480 was like, shit, did you automatically feel destined or Christen 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:22.880 that this was going to be? 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.040 Like? When did you first learn who rock in? My 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.800 law was? When I was like three or four? 0:15:29.480 --> 0:15:31.200 So you just asked like, why did you name me 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:31.680 rock him? 0:15:31.760 --> 0:15:34.800 Or we're people telling you? Yeah, my pops in them 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:36.960 was said. So I used to be obsessed with Michael 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:40.640 Jackson's Moonwalker ever since I was like maybe like six 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.960 months same. My mom would put me in a rocker 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.680 and I'll just fall asleep to us and put it on. Yeah, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.200 I was watching it till I turned two. And I 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.520 remember I had memories from being two and three years 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.800 old to this day. Right, I remember when my aunt 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.600 had a fight on a hundred sixteenth from Mornerside and 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.680 when she got sliced all type of shit. Right, But 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.640 I was maybe three or four years old and I 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.800 was three and rock Kim I think Juice was out right, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.560 So what year did Juice come out? Got ninety two, 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:15.480 ninety two? So I all right, look eighty eight, eighty nine, 0:16:16.040 --> 0:16:18.040 ninety one two, like three four years old. At least 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.920 you know I ain't lying the ledge was on the 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.680 TV right and Rock Kim had the bucket, had Cano 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.360 join on. He was with Eric b in my PASTA 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.160 was like, that's Rock Kim, that's who you naked after. 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:33.520 You named after him. I just was like, damn, that 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.040 motherfucker got swag yo, Like I thought that as a 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:40.360 young guy, like I was just damn part my language. 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.240 I'm just a little comfortable right now. Well you should be, yeah, 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.400 thank you, thank you. I appreciate the hospitality. 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.120 I'm big on time travel, astro traveling like that sort 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.800 of thing. If you could live in any time period, 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:54.840 where would you go. 0:16:55.640 --> 0:17:00.720 I would go to Maley Empire around eleven hundreds. Oh damn, okay, explain, 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.560 I mean Massimosa. Right, Like at the end of the day, 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.840 this is around the time that Africa, you know, they 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.760 try to make it legend, but this is around the 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.359 time where Africa was getting a lot of like European 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.359 countries out of debt and stuff like that, right, And 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:18.360 this is predates like a lot of like you know, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:23.560 the Western nas and you know the colonization, you know, slavery, 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:28.800 you know the colonialization and shit, right, And that was 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.320 when it was just like moors around they were actually 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.320 like the king of like Spain was a black man 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.439 and all of this other stuff. And you know, I 0:17:36.440 --> 0:17:39.840 would have loved to see how like life was before 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.680 history was rewritten for all of us, before we were 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.920 all brainwashed and stuff like that. And yeah, you know, 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:49.600 I wonder what they had in the Vatican. Like for me, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:54.000 it's just like some things you can't like erace. You know, 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:58.640 some things are just like inevitably there and obvious and 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.159 just blatantly in your And I would have loved to 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:06.440 like see like maybe even earlier than that. I would 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:09.120 love to see how they fucking built pyramids, man, because 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.320 I'm still curious, Sam, how about you? 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.520 My level of time traveling has more or less to 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.440 do with the acts I want to see. Probably the 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:25.400 one period that really isn't truly documented, well that's legendary 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:29.560 is kind of the Harlem Renaissance of man jazz. 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.400 Yes, you get on my nerves. I wanted to say that. Sorry, 0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:37.439 See I got all philosophical, you got all cool, you know, 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:38.520 cat daddy on me. 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:41.960 You know, I just you know, some of the best 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:47.320 music ever created really really wasn't documented all that much. 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:51.280 It wasn't and Linkston Hughes the first rapper, of course 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:51.600 he was. 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:55.960 Yes, absolutely, So, I mean, yeah, I would say that 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:01.520 that's I'm curious about that time period as like the creatives. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:02.600 Really, I just want. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:09.320 To see how Charlie Parker and probably John Coltrane operated. 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.840 So that's why I would want to go probably to 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:12.920 the forties. 0:19:12.520 --> 0:19:14.480 The thirties or forties. 0:19:14.520 --> 0:19:17.400 Well, I would say the forties is when when Bob 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:20.560 really started to you know, get. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:22.520 It all the way. Yeah. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.960 So what would you say, is professionally speaking, at least, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:32.320 what is the single moment that changed your life? 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:36.239 The single moment that changed my life is when I 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:41.200 was introduced to a Savims. Tell me about it, man, 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.399 rest in peace to the homie. Man. You know, A 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:48.240 Savims was like responsible for all the peopot Wal moments 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.000 in my career. I got a few moments that kind 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:54.000 of changed my life. Man. You know, when I was five, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:59.359 a stranger, you know, in a very racist town, white 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:03.080 men say me from drowning. Yeah, man, I didn't even 0:20:03.080 --> 0:20:06.720 know his name. I was in a very racist where. 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.560 What I was in North Carolina, what I don't remember. 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.440 It was like right outside of Charlotte. It was the sticks, 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:17.239 you know, he saved me me and my family were 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.360 supposed to walk out together to the pool. Being from 0:20:20.359 --> 0:20:22.840 New York, I never been in the pool, so I 0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.959 was eager, so I thought they was behind me. And 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:27.960 I did some home alone with Cola, cok and shit, 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.359 and I just walked out and they just let the 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.080 door close and I went there, and I was practicing 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.840 in my bathtub, so I thought I could fucking swim. 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:38.160 You give what I'm saying. Come on, bro, Wow, Okay, 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.560 it was significantly accurate. As a kid. You got to 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:47.119 take a toast to that significant all right, But this 0:20:47.280 --> 0:20:51.520 is the lish you know, I left out and I'm 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.040 sitting there, got my you know, legs in the water 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.760 tee to tie the tee like, and it's this guy 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.320 with his family, right. He had like two daughters and 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:06.919 they were like significantly older than me. And basically he 0:21:07.040 --> 0:21:09.679 was like, hey, hey, buddy, you're not a swim sport. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.840 I was like, yeah, I know a swim He's like, yeah, 0:21:13.400 --> 0:21:17.480 for sure. So his son jumped in, and son is 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:19.720 like a year or two older than me, jumped in. 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.880 It was like eight feet went or like popped back up. 0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:26.280 So I decided to try it. When I went in, 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.239 it wasn't until like maybe like five seconds. Panic just 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.000 you know what it feel like. I felt like I 0:21:34.040 --> 0:21:38.359 was drowning, but it was just like panic setting and 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:40.840 I was just like you know what I'm saying, I'm 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.960