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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, this is Chuck here with a tour show announcement.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be back at Sketch Pest this year in

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Speaker 1: January and lovely San Francisco. We don't have the firm

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Speaker 1: date on that yet, but stay tuned for details, but

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Speaker 1: we do know when we're gonna be in Seattle and Portland.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be in Seattle on January in Portland the

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Speaker 1: next day January. That's at the More Theater and Revolution Hall, respectively.

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Speaker 1: And there is a pre sale going on today for

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Speaker 1: We're looking forward to these. Welcome to Stuff you Should

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Speaker 1: Know from how Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the podcast again to the actual real episode one

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Speaker 1: thousand of Stuff you Should Know, The one thousand episode

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Speaker 1: of Stuff You Should Know. I'm Josh Clark, there's Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, there's Jerry over there, Chuck. Episode one thousand

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Speaker 1: is upon us right now. You know what my mom

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Speaker 1: used to always say when I was a little kid.

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Speaker 1: She said, son, if you live your life right, one day,

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Speaker 1: you're going to have a four digit podcast. Wow. You

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Speaker 1: know she had some real predictive powers. Absolutely. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna take her to the horse track. Uh, you should

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Speaker 1: do that. And we should probably just get right into

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Speaker 1: this since we left everyone with the cliffhanger. Hunh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agreed, agreed, Everyone's like shut up. I almost feel

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Speaker 1: like we should apologize for splitting this up. But this

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Speaker 1: just there's no way to get this done in one episode. Nope,

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Speaker 1: there really isn't. All right. So, uh, you may remember

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Speaker 1: us from certain podcasts as Simpsons Tribute. Uh. When we

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Speaker 1: left off, I believe we had told our writer's room story.

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Speaker 1: We had, so that's as far as we got. No,

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Speaker 1: we got to the table read part. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean, sorry, table table read story. So once the

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Speaker 1: table read happens, then all of the um is everybody

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Speaker 1: this to stew right to discus stew. Yeah, there's another

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Speaker 1: great one too. Um. So after the table read, everybody's

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think that they're all

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Speaker 1: That is not at all the case. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: And um, it's really up to the director now at

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Speaker 1: This is totally different from a live action show, right,

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Speaker 1: characters could be killed off the routinely would um spoof

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00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: like great sci fi and horror movies. It was just

427
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: fun to watch because it didn't count, It didn't have

428
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: anything to do with anything. It was just like taking

429
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: the the cartoon aspect of the show and like just

430
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: flushing it out in the grand tradition of cartoons. Yeah,

431
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,479
Speaker 1: and those are those are always some of my favorite

432
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: episodes over time. For the Halloween episodes. Uh many many

433
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: catchphrases over the years have become part of just part

434
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: of American culture, part of the lexicon. From dough from Homer, right,

435
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: which is translated in different languages. Yeah, in French it's

436
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: toe with the T, and then in Spanish it's ouch.

437
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: Did you know that? I did not know that, which, Uh,

438
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: it's weird because it's not a physical whole thing, but

439
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: it is sort of an ouch, an emotional ouch. Well,

440
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: did you know that? It's in the Oxford English Dictionary?

441
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: And what's the definition? Did you Did you find it

442
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: um somewhere? I did see it, but I don't remember.

443
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: Do you have it? I do? I found it all right.

444
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: It is expressing frustration at the realization that things have

445
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: turned out badly or not as planned, or that one

446
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: has said something foolish. Pretty good definition of dough. I

447
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: think everyone has had a friend over the years that

448
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: said accident a little too much. Yeah. Uh. And then

449
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: of course Comic book Man, Uh, worst episode ever. Yeah,

450
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: that one kind of a classic one. That's a good um,

451
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: good starting point to talk about their um some more

452
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: self self referential humor. So that was about I don't

453
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,719
Speaker 1: remember what episode that was or what season it was,

454
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: but that was from the Itchy and Scratching and Pucci episode, right,

455
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: So at the time people were like kind of hating

456
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: on the Simpsons. It was becoming trendy too to talk

457
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: about how it jumped the shark, although I don't think

458
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: that was a term yet. And um, the Simpsons made

459
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: fun of it by creating this this episode where Itchy

460
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: and Scratchy had become hip or unhip and and old,

461
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: and so they to rev stuff up. They brought him Pucci,

462
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: the talking dog, who was an extreme like skateboarding guitar

463
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: playing ninja I think, and um just completely threw off

464
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: like the whole Itchy and Scratchy show. And that's where

465
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: a comic book guy says worst episode ever. And he's

466
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 1: talking about the Itchy and Scratchy and Pucci episode and

467
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: barts like, well, you know, um, you know, where do

468
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: you get off saying that? And he's like, well, as

469
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: as my as a loyal fan, I feel like they

470
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: owe me. He's like, what do you mean they owe you?

471
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 1: They've given you hundreds of hours of free entertainment, if anything,

472
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 1: you owe that, and he goes the worst episode ever. Yeah,

473
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: I would say that's a subtle dig from Simpson's writers

474
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 1: to Simpsons nerds for sure. And then also in the

475
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: same so there's another great one too, if I may, um,

476
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: like the super super Nerds. I don't remember the guy's name,

477
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: but just he's like got the messed up hair and

478
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: he's wearing like a green cardigan all the time in glasses.

479
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: But there's an itchy and scratchy like Q and A

480
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: or something like that, and the guy asked the question,

481
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: he says, um, he goes so an episode whatever whatever?

482
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: Um like itchy plays scratchy skeleton like a xylophone, and

483
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: they show him hitting the same rib twice in secession,

484
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: but it plays two distinct notes. I hope somebody got

485
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: fired for that screw up, you know. So they were

486
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 1: very much aware of the the growing um viciousness of

487
00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: their own fans. That is just totally common play ace now,

488
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: but at the time it was just developing, because that

489
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: was about the time the Internet was really developing, and

490
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: of course everybody knows the Internet brings out the absolute

491
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: worst in humanity. Yeah. Uh, here's another cool thing that's

492
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: happened over the years is the Simpsons has had an

493
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: in Time magazine wrote this great article where they kind

494
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: of broke it down thirteen times the Simpsons actually predicted

495
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: the future. Um, it's it's not quite on the level

496
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: of me wanting to punch Jared from Subway for Sharknado.

497
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: I know, man, you do have a pretty good track record,

498
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: but it is pretty interesting over the years some of

499
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: the things that The Simpsons has parodied that ended up

500
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: happening in real life. So thanks to Time Magazine, we're

501
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 1: going to go over some of these, maybe not all thirteen, no,

502
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: just the good ones. One of the best. It's very

503
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: sad and tragic. But they actually did predict a full

504
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: ten years earlier. Uh, Siegfried and Roy's tiger attack. Did

505
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: they correctly predict which one would be attacked? You know,

506
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm not sure because Roy was the one who was

507
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: attacked in real life, And I want to say, uh,

508
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: I think Siegfrey got attacked in the cartoons. I really,

509
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: I didn't know if it was one or both. I

510
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: can't remember. Oh maybe it was both. But that was

511
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: and it actually really did happen. In two thousand three

512
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: and season five, episode ten U springfield S Being a

513
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: Dollar Sign or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and

514
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: Love legalized gambling so great. That was the one where

515
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: Robert Cooley hits Millhouse with this microphone's right and That title,

516
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 1: of course, is also a reference to uh, doctor Strangelove. Right,

517
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: all right, what else we got? Um? Let's see voting

518
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: machine errors? Yeah, counting the wrong votes? Um. I don't

519
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: remember what the episode was, but um, say episode four

520
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: Treehouse of Horror? Oh was it that one? So Homer

521
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: was trying to vote for I guess McCain at first,

522
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: and then ends up it ends up being switched to Obama. No,

523
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: he tries to vote for Obama and he does it

524
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: a few times and it gets switched back to McCain. Gotcha,

525
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: which actually happened in real life in that very election,

526
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: that's right, in two thousand twelve. That was that famous

527
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: video footage of uh in Pennsylvania people voting for Obama

528
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: at switching it to Mitt Romney. Oh, that's right. So

529
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: the next election, Um? What else? The auto correct one

530
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: was kind of funny Episode eight of season six, Lisa

531
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: on Ice. Lisa was um Or Curny actually during a

532
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: school assembly, Um asked Dolph, this fellow bully, to take

533
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: a memo to beat up Martin on his Newton. Remember

534
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: the Newton apples? Little? Uh? I guess the original p

535
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: d A from Apple it was, but it had Um,

536
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: it had I guess writing the text function that didn't

537
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: work that well. Yeah, so it's he said to take

538
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: a memo beat up Martin and it changed it to

539
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: eat up Martha, which is pretty funny. And everyone suffers

540
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: through that today with it, Well, it's get real. It's

541
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: not suffering, but gets annoyed by it feels like suffering.

542
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:14,239
Speaker 1: I got another one, President Trump. Yeah. So there's this

543
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: clip apparently of Trump announcing his candidacy that they made

544
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: after he actually had announced it. But people sent it

545
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: around and said it just became an urban legend that

546
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: they had made this before he actually announced his campaign.

547
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: That's just false. But there's another earlier episode from My

548
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: Belief two thousand, if I'm not mistaken, where it shows

549
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: the future and Lisa is president and she um just

550
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: references President Trump. She says, we we inherited a pretty

551
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: big debt debt crunch from President Trump, so we're gonna

552
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: have a lot of work ahead of us. UM, And

553
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: I guess al Jean or somebody who was interviewed said

554
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: that they just they asked themselves like, what would what

555
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: would represent the lowest point for America? UM, that that

556
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: we could possibly hit in the future, and they said

557
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: to themselves, well, President Trump, So now now we've hit, um,

558
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: apparently the lowest point as far as the Simpsons are concerned. Uh,

559
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,239
Speaker 1: last one, I'm gonna pick America's Ebola outbreak. And this

560
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: one I'm picking because it was a seventeen years early. Uh.

561
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: In season nine, episode three, Lisa's sacks, Marge offers to

562
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: read Bart but he was depressed. She offers to read

563
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: him a book called Curious George and the Ebola Virus, which, um,

564
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: I mean, no one knew at all what Ebola was.

565
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: That's pretty pretty interesting. Not bad Simpsons, Yeah, the other ones.

566
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: All right, check out that Time magazine article to uh

567
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: if you want the full list. Um, So what's up next, Chuck?

568
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: Shall we talk about the successive Simpsons the cultural impact?

569
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: I feel we can take our final break now, Man,

570
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: what a journey. It has been a heck of a journey, buddy,

571
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: all right, and we'll come back and finish up with

572
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: a lot more Easter eggs what some critics have said

573
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: over the years, and and kind of just a lovely summation. Alright, Chuck,

574
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: So you promised Easter eggs. People want Easter eggs. I

575
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: want Easter eggs. Let's talk Easter eggs. Yeah, this was

576
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: compiled in m E put together a list of fifty

577
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: Easter eggs, and we've covered a lot of them, and

578
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 1: so we'll go over some of the faves here that remain.

579
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: I did not know this, but Bart obviously he's very

580
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: famous for his prank phone calls to most tavern, one

581
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: of the great great running bits over the years. Uh.

582
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: And the number he dials is seven six four eight

583
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: four three seven seven, which is funny in itself because

584
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: it's got one extra digit, but that actually smells out,

585
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: spells out, smithers perfect. Pretty good. Um, I got one.

586
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: Everybody on the show has four fingers for four digits

587
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: on their hand, that's right. And there's only been one

588
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: person on the entire show who had five, and that

589
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: was God. When I think heretic Homer episode where Homer

590
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: decides he doesn't want to go to church anymore, that's

591
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: a good one too. Pretty good, Speaking of don't, Originally

592
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: that was just written in the script and continues to

593
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: be written in the script unless they may actually write

594
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: it as a line now. But originally it was in

595
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: the script as annoying, annoyed grunt, and that's what Dan

596
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Castelenetta came up with, She's not bad and he apparently

597
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: he based it on a recurring character from the old

598
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: Laurel and Hardy series. Yeah, dude, that is an arcane

599
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: reference right there. Not bad um. Like we said, Doe

600
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: made it into the Oxford English Dictionary, so too did me. Yeah. Yeah,

601
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: and they didn't make up man, but apparently they kind

602
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: of brought it back into popular usage and it was

603
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: kind of big starting in the nineties. Now it's just

604
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: a timeless classic basically. But it was added in two

605
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen to the O E ED and the

606
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: definition is expressing a lack of interest or enthusiasm. Pretty succinct.

607
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: I think Al Jean said something about it being like

608
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: one of the funniest words in the English language. I

609
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: think he's right. It really if you time it out right,

610
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: a good man is really pretty great. Yeah, because a

611
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of times it's used to very like not sarcastically,

612
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: but what like if something is really great and then

613
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: you say it's math, it just shuts it down automatically. Yeah,

614
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: it is pretty great. Here's on Principal Skinner his prisoner

615
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: uniform in Vietnam was two four six one uh, and

616
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: he shared that prisoner number with uh Jean Valjean from

617
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: Layman's Rob from Hank Jennings and Twin Peaks who no

618
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: doubt it got it from John Valjean and then side

619
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: show Bob also has that very same prisoner number. So

620
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: it's a good prisoner number. Bob a k A. Robert

621
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: to Williger right, Robert Underdunck to Williger's this bull name, Yeah,

622
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: such a great name. Yeah, Um, I've got another one.

623
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: I did not know this. I hadn't even heard this,

624
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: but the do the Bartman single that actually topped the

625
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: charts in the UK and I think the US two. Yeah,

626
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: not a fan, so you had, um you had remember

627
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: that where Auto is listening to the Simpsons Calypso record

628
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: yea so um. Apparently Michael Jackson actually produced that song.

629
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh really that track? Yeah. He was a guest on

630
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: the show too, he was. He was an uncredited guest.

631
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: He played a large white um maybe construction worker I

632
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: think who Homer met at a mental hospital who thought

633
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: he was Michael Jackson and had Michael Jackson's voice, but

634
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,479
Speaker 1: they never credited Michael Jackson on the episode. Interesting. Here's

635
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: one of my favorites, Millhouse Van Howton. His middle name

636
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Speaker 1: is Mussolini. Yeah. I think one of the greatest Millhouse

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Speaker 1: gags of all time was um when Bart had his

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Speaker 1: leg broken and they got a swimming pool and they

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Speaker 1: basically did rear window remember that one? Oh yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Millhouse is signing Bart's cast and he's like, I

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Speaker 1: gotta go Bart, and he Bart looks down at his

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Speaker 1: cast and says Millpool because he wants to go to

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Speaker 1: play in the pool rather than hang out with Bart.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those ones you just gotta see it.

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's funnier scene than explained. And actually,

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Speaker 1: isn't that the premise that it's just funnier to just

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Speaker 1: go watch this stuff? I ho everybody knows that. We

648
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Speaker 1: know that, yes, absolutely, uh please go watch the stuff

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Speaker 1: if you haven't already died back in and if you have.

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Speaker 1: Um here's another one Springfield Hill Billy Cletus which we

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Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. Cleetas is like John Yokel and his wife

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Speaker 1: brand Dean forty four kids. Some of their names these

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Speaker 1: are great. One of his name is Incest. One of

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Speaker 1: them's name is Crystal, meth uh spelled like the name Crystal.

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Speaker 1: Uh normal head Joe. I think that's probably the best

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Speaker 1: one of all. Normal head Joe is good. My favorite

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Speaker 1: one is uh Mary WrestleMania. The normal head Joe is

658
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Speaker 1: great because it's it references the idea that the other

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Speaker 1: kids heads aren't normal, or that that there's another one

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Speaker 1: named Joe who doesn't have a normal heads, you know,

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Speaker 1: and that actually brings to mind, if I may, another

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Speaker 1: joke of that I think is possible. Lee the best

663
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Speaker 1: joke ever said on The Simpsons Are you ready for this?

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what episode it was, but Homer is

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Speaker 1: reminiscing about something that happened in his past, in his life,

666
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Speaker 1: and he like he got in trouble or something with

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Speaker 1: some bootleggers, but luckily his friend Fawns he came and

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Speaker 1: beat them up and saved the day. And Marge goes,

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Speaker 1: that was happy days and Homer says, no, they weren't

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Speaker 1: all happy days, Marge, And it says a lot so

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Speaker 1: number one. Homer is thinking that in a Happy Days

672
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Speaker 1: episode is an actual memory from his life. That's funny enough,

673
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: but there's also like this other nuanced joke to where

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Speaker 1: he thinks that either Marge's grasp on grammars so bad

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Speaker 1: that those were Happy Days comes out that was Happy Days,

676
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Speaker 1: or his own grasp on grammar is that bad that

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Speaker 1: he thought that was correct and he fails to remember

678
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Speaker 1: the show Happy Days right exactly. So there's like five

679
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Speaker 1: different things like writhing in this perfect joke that that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was just like a throwaway joke for

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Speaker 1: the Simpson jinny. But if you put thirty seasons of

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Speaker 1: that combined, you get just an amazing masterpiece, one big masterpiece. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I went through and uh looked up a bunch

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Speaker 1: of um best episodes of the Simpsons lists, and I'll

685
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Speaker 1: just rattle through those, uh to see what different people think.

686
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Speaker 1: And you can see a little bit of a pattern here.

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Speaker 1: I'll just name like the one and two. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: share yours too, though, right, I didn't narrow it down, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got a couple of them mentioned then, all right,

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Speaker 1: So Rolling Stone Magazine says, uh, Marge versus the Montero

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Speaker 1: rails of their best ever with Lesta the Vegetarians number two,

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Speaker 1: so good. Digital Spy says Homer the Great is number one.

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Speaker 1: Homer the heretic number two. I g N goes with

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Speaker 1: Marge versus the Monterareils number one again and Rosebud is

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Speaker 1: number two. So good. That one's so great that Citizen

696
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Speaker 1: came parody. Yeah. Uh, Entertainment Weekly monter Rail again is

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Speaker 1: number one, and I think actually there are Number two

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Speaker 1: is one of my top two. The Cape Fear spoof.

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Speaker 1: That was great, you know, yeah, where Sideshow Bob comes

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Speaker 1: gets out of prison and stalks Barton family and they

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Speaker 1: go into the witness protection program and Homer can't get

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Speaker 1: that he has a different name now and he's supposed

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Speaker 1: to respond to it. Yeah, He's like, when I call you, Bob,

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Speaker 1: will you step on your foot? You say yes? Uh.

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Speaker 1: Denn of Geek goes with you Only Move Twice is

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Speaker 1: number one. That's the great James Bond spoof. The Hank

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Speaker 1: Scorpio and then Homer versus the Eighteenth Amendment is number two.

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Speaker 1: What was Oh is that the beer bearing episode? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think so that was so great. Consequence of sound

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Speaker 1: Homer goes to college number one, Monoail number two, and

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Speaker 1: then Vulture goes with Cape Fear number one, and last

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Speaker 1: Exit to Springfield is number two. That was the one

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Speaker 1: with the dental plan in Lisa needs braces. It's all

714
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 1: about like union organizing and union busting and all that. Yeah,

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00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: so I mean definitely minor in there, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: go ahead and throw the stone cutters in there as well.

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Speaker 1: That was a great one too. Yeah. I have a

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Speaker 1: couple of others to add to it, if I may. Homer,

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Speaker 1: h O M. Backward Are the one where it turns

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Speaker 1: out that Homer has a cran lodged in his brain

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Speaker 1: which accounts for his sub average intellect, right, and he

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Speaker 1: hasn't removed and he suddenly becomes smart. So this is

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Speaker 1: like a really good example of the impact The Simpsons

724
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Speaker 1: had on my life. I love that episode. I thought

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Speaker 1: it was great. I watched it again last night. It

726
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Speaker 1: was as good, if not better, than it was ten

727
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Speaker 1: or so years ago. Um. And then today, as I

728
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Speaker 1: was researching it some more, I realized and I didn't

729
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Speaker 1: realize this, but it was based on the premise of

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Speaker 1: Flowers for Algernon, and then the movie that was made

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Speaker 1: based on Flowers for Algernon Charlie, which explains the backward are.

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Speaker 1: There's a backward R and Charlie in the movie title,

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Speaker 1: and um, it's kind of roughly parallels that there's a

734
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Speaker 1: rat that Homer is playing a test with that I

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Speaker 1: didn't get until I read up on it. So this

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Speaker 1: episode that I love and I think it's hilarious, just

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Speaker 1: introduced me to Charlie and Flowers for Algernon, which I

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Speaker 1: did not read in middle school or high school. So

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Speaker 1: I will probably go back and watch Charlie now and

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Speaker 1: I will love that Homer episode even more as a result. Yeah, man,

741
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Speaker 1: they really do. Because also it's not just that, like

742
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Speaker 1: if they didn't just leave it at well, here's a

743
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Speaker 1: parody of Charlie or Flowers for Algernon, and you'll love

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Speaker 1: it for that. It's also the premise of the episode

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Speaker 1: is it's an examination of anti intellectualism, you know, and

746
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Speaker 1: the the whole, the whole basis of it is like, hey, no,

747
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: actually it's pretty great to be smart, and that it's

748
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: hard to be smart too, especially in a world of

749
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Speaker 1: dumb dumbs. It's from Matt graining his top ten and

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Speaker 1: this was uh, I mean, it's hard to believe that

751
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: this was done seventeen years ago, but a lot of

752
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 1: people look at the nineties as sort of the golden

753
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: age of the Simpsons. So as for that Golden Age,

754
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: graining stop ten or Bart, the Daredeuble Life on the

755
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: fast Lane much a pooh about nothing, the street car

756
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Speaker 1: named Marge. That one was so good. Uh. In Marge,

757
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: we trust Homer's Enemy Treehouse of Horror, seven natural Born Kissers,

758
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: Krusty gets busted, and there's no disgrace like Home. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm always that the one where the child

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Speaker 1: services maybe becomes Oh, I don't know, but that one

761
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Speaker 1: was good. If that is the one if you don't

762
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Speaker 1: have keep your milk in a refrigerator or barring that

763
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: in a cool wet sack. Oh man, maybe we should

764
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: just launch a side podcast on The Simpsons. Yeah, just

765
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: called Josh and Chuck giggle a lot. Yeah, I think

766
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: that's right. Can I throw out a couple more? Oh? Yeah, sure.

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Speaker 1: Lisa the Skeptic was a great one where Stephen J.

768
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Speaker 1: Gould is in it. They find like what looks to

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Speaker 1: be an angel fossil, but it's a PR stunt for

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Speaker 1: the local mall. H Yeah, yeah, I remember that one.

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00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: The Death of Maud again I think was just about

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Speaker 1: as good as an animated TV show has ever gotten,

773
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Speaker 1: as tackling like a serious subject and then I went

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Speaker 1: back and watched it again last night and it is

775
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: really great. Um so it's still in my top echelon.

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00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 1: But in Marge We Trust, which is the Mr. Sparkle episode, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that was on Matt Graining's list, and I think,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I look through the top tens of all

779
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Speaker 1: those sites, that one's in the top ten of everybody's

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00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: it's just so good. But the thing is is it's

781
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: so trendy now. It's like a social signifier that you're in,

782
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: like a hip in group to say the Simpsons sucked

783
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Speaker 1: after season eight or the Simpsons sucked after season ten,

784
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: and that is demonstrably false. There are so many good

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Speaker 1: episodes that you can point to that came after season ten,

786
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: um that that you can't. Like, there's this whole idea

787
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Speaker 1: that there's this thing called Zombie Simpson and it's the

788
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: show that closely resembles the Simpsons and look and feel,

789
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: but it is nowhere near as funny as The Simpsons,

790
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: which actually took place during the nineties. And to me,

791
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: it's smacks of that whole refusal to surrender. What you

792
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: thought was cool or what was cool when you were

793
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: young is now not necessarily as cool as it was,

794
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: which means by proxy, you're not as cool. Right, And

795
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: so there's that whole side thing of aging where you

796
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: want to remain relevant or whatever, and you can become

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Speaker 1: cursed to just hang on to what you identify with

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Speaker 1: rather than branching out and looking at the world as

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Speaker 1: it changes as it changes, right, Um, and I think

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Speaker 1: that that's part of it. And I just I think

801
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: that's stupid to just close your mind like that and

802
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: be like the Simpsons sucked after season ten, end of

803
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: story period. And there seems to be a lot of

804
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: people out there who are more than happy to do that. Yeah,

805
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 1: I mean the Grabs sure actually had a nice little

806
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: summation about that whole attitude. Um. And dude, what this

807
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 1: has done is it's made me want to go back

808
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: and I'm going to and start watching the show again.

809
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: Well you can, and here's a little bit of buzz

810
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: marketing for f f X f x X. Sorry. They

811
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: have um every Simpsons episode online and you can watch it.

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00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you have to pay or if

813
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,720
Speaker 1: you just have to sign up and submit to spam

814
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: or whatever, but it's all there. Yeah. Well, I know

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Speaker 1: what I'll be doing now at least, like seriously, Yeah,

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00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: you're regressing. UM. So ED had a lot of good

817
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: points as far as that, like, it's not as good

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Speaker 1: as it used to be. UM could be a perception

819
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: thing because they might be a victim of their own success,

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Speaker 1: that it was so great during the nineteen nineties that

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Speaker 1: even the slightest fall off from that might be bigger

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Speaker 1: than expected. Yeah, and they addressed that in the Itching

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Speaker 1: Scratching Pucci episode two, because Ken Brockman reports that um

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Speaker 1: cret or Um, the fans of the beloved show have

825
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: been watching for Crux and It's Veneer for years, you know,

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Speaker 1: and it's the same thing. It's like, um, if if,

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Speaker 1: if you are that good, can you possibly keep it up?

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Speaker 1: And if you even slip a little bit, people are

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Speaker 1: just gonna throw their hands up. Yeah. Part of it

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Speaker 1: is the fragmentation of the audience. I mean, I'm forty

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Speaker 1: six years old and I saw the first episode my

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Speaker 1: senior year of high school. Yeah, it's ridiculous how long

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Speaker 1: the show has been on. And I didn't I think,

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Speaker 1: Oh the show sucks now, gotta quit watching it. I

835
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Speaker 1: got a little busy, it fell away and never came back,

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Speaker 1: and that just happens sometimes. Sure, I think that happens

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Speaker 1: with people who listen to our show, absolutely, you know,

838
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: like I don't. I don't think people who stopped listening.

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Speaker 1: Some people stop listening and discussed mostly conservative Americans, but

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00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of people they just like their lives changed

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Speaker 1: a little bit that you just end up not listening anymore.

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00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: That's fine. Yeah. It also makes a point about, Um,

843
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: the Simpsons was so groundbreaking and it's satire that that's

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Speaker 1: being done so much. It's not as Uh, it's just

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Speaker 1: not as unique as it used to be. Like they

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Speaker 1: they didn't create satire obviously, but in nine and nineteen

847
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Speaker 1: ninety there wasn't a lot of stuff like this at

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Speaker 1: all going on television. So there's so much of that

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Speaker 1: now there again a little bit of victims of of

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Speaker 1: their own success, and that there's there's just so much

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Speaker 1: to choose from satirically that it's tough to stick with

852
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Speaker 1: something like that for thirty years and say it's just

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Speaker 1: as sharp as it ever was. It may be just

854
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Speaker 1: as sharp as it ever was, but it just might

855
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Speaker 1: not seem that way because so many other people are

856
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Speaker 1: doing what they started. Um, I've read this article and

857
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Speaker 1: I think the New Statesman, and it was basically saying

858
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Speaker 1: the Simpsons is a direct challenge to the GOP's identity

859
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Speaker 1: as the party that provides for, you know, the the

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Speaker 1: middle America, the middle American family, because if if they

861
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Speaker 1: were doing such a great job of it, then there

862
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:20,359
Speaker 1: would be no popularity for the Simpsons or for Roseanne. Right.

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00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: So early on it was like a real challenge to

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Speaker 1: the status quo in the established sense of like wholesome

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Speaker 1: American nous. George Bush even very famously said George Bush

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Speaker 1: sr Um who was a president before w for those

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Speaker 1: of you who aren't alive back then, but his George

868
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 1: Bush sr Said, I want America to be more like

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Speaker 1: the Waltons and less like the Simpsons. And Barbara Bush

870
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: said it was the dumbest thing she'd ever seen on TV, right,

871
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: And there was a lot there was a lot of

872
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 1: that at first, and especially it was because bart was

873
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: his T shirts were everywhere and kids were saying like,

874
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: don't have a cowmand to their parents and stuff like that,

875
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: and so part of it was the initial a stake

876
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: in taking of the of the Simpsons and being missing

877
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: what it actually was. But then Another part of it

878
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: was America was just a different place and the moral

879
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 1: majority was in charge and pretending like everything was absolutely perfect,

880
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 1: and shows like this came along and really challenged that.

881
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Today if you look at the current climate. I saw

882
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: a really great, great description of how hard it is

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Speaker 1: to be satirical. It was in Al Jazeera and they said,

884
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: in an era when Dennis Rodman is serving as a

885
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: makeshift ambassador to North Korea, it's difficult to write satire

886
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: that stands out. Yeah, And we have friends that uh

887
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 1: right for uh, for TV and for the Onion and

888
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: and satire, And I know that it's been a challenge

889
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: for them to come up with anything that seems fresh

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00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 1: and unique in this day and age, you know. So

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00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's part of it too. Uh. Here's some

892
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: sanctimonious drivel from Bill Cosby August thirty, first nine nine

893
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 1: Entertainment Weekly magazine. Mr Cosby said TV should be I

894
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: would do a Cosby voice pecific funny to do that anymore. Uh.

895
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: TV should be moving in a direction from the Huxtable's forward,

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00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: not backward. The mean spirit and cruel think this kind

897
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: of programming is the edge, and their excuses that's the

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00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: way people are today. But why should we be entertained

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00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: by that? So and this was the time when Bill

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: Cosby was like the moral mouthpiece of America, you know.

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00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: And and so in a sense like Matt Greening took

902
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: him on and took on the bushes and um just

903
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: took on that whole false wholesomeness. And today it's like now,

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00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: you just it's not even a question like of course

905
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: that that whole thing is taken on. Like go try

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00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: to find a show on Prime Time that even vaguely

907
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: resembles Major Dad or My Two Dads. You can't find it.

908
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: They're not there. Everything is has gone the opposite end

909
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: of the spectrum, and it's become we were just entirely cynical,

910
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: but we're so cynical that there isn't room for satire

911
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: like there used to be. So now I think there's

912
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a backlash, probably from I don't know where

913
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna come from, but I predict basically a wholesome

914
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: backlash or um, I don't think it's gonna be that

915
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: whole earnest thing that didn't actually take off very well.

916
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 1: Everybody got sick of that really quick. But there's going

917
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: to be I think something a little more um bona

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00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: fide and genuine that will develop out of cynicism, because

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00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 1: I don't think you can keep I don't think cynicism

920
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: can be maintained for too long before everybody just kind

921
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 1: of commits cultural suicide, you know, I think it's already happening,

922
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: Like shows like Masters of None and uh from Zis

923
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: and Sorry and tig Nataro's One Mississippi, Like, have you've

924
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 1: seen those shows? They're not cynical. They're very kind of sweet,

925
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: warmhearted shows, and they're funny, and they may bring up

926
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: relevant satirical things, but they're both very genuine shows and

927
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: it's just done in the right way. It's not, you know,

928
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: touched by an angel. Right, And that was another reason

929
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: Chuck that that Barbara Bush and George Bush really missed

930
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: the point because The Simpsons may have ultimately kind of

931
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Speaker 1: created the groundwork for America to create the cynical shift

932
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: or shift to the cynicism maybe or maybe that was

933
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: politics one of the two, right, Um, but they missed

934
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: the basis of the Simpsons, and the basis of the

935
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 1: Simpsons is morality, like actual real morality, like making good

936
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: moral decisions, making bad moral decisions, having consequences, family coming

937
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: together and actually like looking out for one another. Things

938
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: actually kind of working out in the end, like bart

939
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: And and Marge having their marriage tested. But then it's

940
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 1: surviving and being stronger on the other side. But without

941
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: a hint of schmaltziness, without a hint of fake wholesomeness.

942
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: It was they had the wherewithal to put that through

943
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 1: those those tropes or those those moral ideas, through the

944
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: grinder of reality and managed to get it out on

945
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 1: the other side and said, see, you actually can be

946
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: a good, moral, upstanding person and and survive in cynical times,

947
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: in times that beat you down. And um, we're proving

948
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: it every Sunday with with our show man. What a

949
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: great show, What a great show. Thank you, Thank you,

950
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: Thank you to the Simpsons and everyone who's ever been

951
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: involved in it for making it. Because you literally changed

952
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: the world and and for the better. That's right. And

953
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: as a May of this year, uh, the Simpsons as

954
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: broadcast more than six hundred episodes, aired for more seasons

955
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: than any prime time scripted show in TV history, and

956
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: by the time the thirtieth season will end, there will

957
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: be more episodes of the Simpsons than any other prime

958
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: time scripted show. Uh, finally, finally passing Gun smoke Man

959
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: Man Alive, Chuck Dude, great job, great job to YouTube buddy.

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00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: This was a pleasure. Um, I think I'm gonna just

961
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: go back and start researching the Simpsons against So maybe

962
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: we should do that side podcast meet my good Um

963
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: so is this it? Is this the end? Yeah? So

964
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: when LOUI of listener mail uh nine and nine, nine

965
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: and one thousand episode, we shall give thanks to everyone

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00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,080
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00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: our tribute such a long running show, and here we

968
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: are at someplace that we never ever, ever ever thought

969
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: that we would be, to say the least. No, we've

970
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: done pretty good for a show that has rights free

971
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:07,240
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972
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,800
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975
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976
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,800
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977
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Speaker 1: You should know Army coming out to see us live

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Speaker 1: expectation that either one of us, including Jerry, ever had

981
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: for ourselves. And uh, thank you, thank you, thank you,

982
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: thank you forever. Yeah, thank you to not just like

983
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984
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Speaker 1: and um, chuckers, here's to the next thousand episodes. Buddy,

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Speaker 1: let's do it. And then Jerry, you are you down

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Speaker 1: with another thousand episodes? That's great, Jerry. And you know what, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: do you want to say a few words? I think

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Speaker 1: I think she should chuck All right, let let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: Go for it, Jerry. H Well put Jerry, Yeah, that

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