1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, It's the twenty fifth of October twenty twenty 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: one and my name is Luke Thomas. Hi there. This 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: is MK extra Credit. This is Morning Combat Extra Credit. 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: This is the little podcast we do that we put 5 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: out in addition to the big Morning Combat of course, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Morning Combat Regular Show, the Hero Show hosted by me 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: and my co host Brian Campbell, that is already up. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: You can go check that out on Spotify, on YouTube 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: wherever you may get this show. But this is the 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: this is the podcast where we discuss all the fights 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: we couldn't get to on regular MK. So first things first, 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: give a thumbs up to this video hit subscribe. One 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: word of note before we get into a whole lot 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: of things, just want to point out something last week 15 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,639 Speaker 1: in the video, I asked you guys, did you want 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: me to like run through all of the fights basically 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: from the weekend quite quickly or target a handful. Well, 18 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: the jury is in and you guys were pretty adamant 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: target a handful was what you wanted. So we're going 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: to do that today. We're gonna look at two different cards. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: We'll look very briefly at one fight we did not 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: get to from Bill Tour two sixty nine, and then 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: we're gonna lean into some of the fights from the 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: UFC Fight Night. Yes, so that's what we're gonna do today. 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: We'll go about thirty minutes as we normally do, and 26 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm actually pretty excited about today's slate of fights. If 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: I missed anything, of course, and you have other questions, 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: you can just email me Luke Thomas news at gmail 29 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: dot com one more time with the graphic Mikey if 30 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: you could the social graphic anyway, you can throw that 31 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: up there. Of course, you can give me a follow, 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: you can give Brian Campbell a follow, you can give 33 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: the show a follow. Morning Combat name is consistent everywhere. 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: BC and I, though have slightly separate names depending on 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: where you find us. Okay, all right, with that out 36 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: of the way, let's start things first. Just one fight 37 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: we did not get to on regular MK for Bill 38 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Tour two sixty nine, and that, of course, is going 39 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: to be Uspan Nimbergameydov defeating Patrick pie Tella Tilla. I'm 40 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: sure I'm mispronouncing his name. I think he was finished 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: or something like that, but he was no match for 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: Nimberkameidov at all. This was This was a bit of 43 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: a squash match. I think he made off knew it 44 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: because personally, I thought his approach to the fight told 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: you how he viewed it. He can strike super well. 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: He is a very very good striker, which is going 47 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: to say that his opponent would offer no resistance in 48 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: that way. But he decided to take the fight to 49 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: the ground, which is also something he can do quite easily. 50 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: He's a very good wrestler. He has good grappling. He 51 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: doesn't have that same kind of positional tone setting strength 52 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: that Habib does, but he is He understands position flow 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: and where things are going, how to set, how to 54 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: put those kinds of attacks into sequence together. And you know, 55 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: he's got a really good strong command of the ground. 56 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it's that tone seting strength, but I 57 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: mean just the fact that he took it there right 58 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: away and didn't offer the heaviest ground and pound. To me, 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: this is just my personal opinion. I don't know this 60 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: war effact, but to me, it felt like he was 61 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: doing that to take it easy on his opponents so 62 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: he wouldn't have to give him like the beat down. 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: I've seen it before. Actually, I think that's what we 64 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: got here. In any case, Pytela offered not much resistance, 65 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: took maybe never come in out of a little bit 66 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: longer on the ground again because there it wasn't a 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: super thrashing. It was more just really outstanding positional control 68 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: and good hand fighting. The way he set up the 69 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: final choke or he was switching sides and then using 70 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: space to whip in the final one, he tried to 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: get it over the jaw the first time. Shouts to 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: Drew Weatherheadrew Weatherhead as a guy who is a great 73 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: black belt, a Canadian black belt, although he's touring America 74 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: right now, but he just put out a video on 75 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: choking the jaw and how you can not just a crank, 76 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: but how to actually choke through the jaw. And the 77 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: answer is the sort of two ways. One as you 78 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: come under and then back with the jaw in grip, 79 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: and then the other one would be almost like a 80 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: bow and arrow choking kind of a yank to the 81 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: elbow side of the choking arm to kind of turn 82 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: it over the jaw itself, which is the kind Maya 83 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: used on I think Rick's story. In any case, he 84 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: didn't get to it here. He didn't finish it that way. 85 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: He was able to switch sides a couple of times, 86 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: and then he got it fully under the throat and 87 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: that was all she wrote. But you know, I'll tell 88 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: you what we all knew he was gonna win this fight. 89 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: I think he took a merciful approach to this, and 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: you know you could he could have won this fight 91 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: on the feet to me just as easily, probably even quicker. 92 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,359 Speaker 1: You can go ahead and mark me down as Uspin 93 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: numbergat made off future Bellator lightweight champ. I don't see anyway. 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I'll put it this way. As long as he's healthy 95 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: and competing and able to travel to a reasonable degree, 96 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: he's going to be the champion. I don't know anyone 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: at lightweight in Bellatore who can hang with him. I'd 98 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: be very surprised if we ever see that, or I 99 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: should say, see that in twenty twenty two. I think 100 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: he'll be the champion before too long. He is an enormous, 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: enormous talent. And you know, when you can beat an opponent, 102 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: but you know I can take it easy on you 103 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: and still get you out in less than a round. 104 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: You know, you're talking about somebody who is quite special. 105 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: So if you're looking up more on how to choke 106 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: through the jaw, check out Drew Weatherhead on Instagram. He 107 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: had he just put out a great video about it 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: showing how to do it. Takes some feel, takes some practice. Obviously, 109 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: go train if you want to learn and whatnot. But 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: check him out and shouts a Dreweatherhead. What a great guy. Right, Okay, 111 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: so let's talk about the other card. I know there 112 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: was rising over the weekend. I know there was some 113 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: KSW as well. I only saw a few fights from 114 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: the Risen or Rizing card and I only saw the 115 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: main event for KSW. I apologize, but I did see 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: all of the UFC card, and I thought there were 117 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: several really interesting fights on this one. Here you can 118 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: see the full one. I'm gonna pick four. I'm gonna 119 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: pick four from this list. They may not be your four, 120 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: they may be a different four. You may have thought 121 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: that there could have been another way to go, but 122 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: these are the four I'm gonna pick. So I'm actually 123 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: gonna start with the co main event Grant Dawson and 124 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: this was a one to fifty five vout with Ricky Glenn, 125 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 1: an interesting contest I think they drew. I think they 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 1: ruled this one a majority draw, So I think one 127 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: judge had it for Dawson and then two had it 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty eight across the board. Because here's basically 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: what happened. Dawson was all over Glenn like white on 130 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: rice for the first two rounds, but it was really 131 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: a positional control battle. And even then, there were fairly 132 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: long stretches of each round where Dawson didn't have control, 133 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: but there were there were two There were stretches in 134 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: both of those where he had side control. In the 135 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: first round he had a long stretch where he had 136 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: the back using a body triangle, but there was no 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: heavy presence of ground and pound. There was virtually almost 138 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: no striking on the feet, relatively speaking anyway. And in 139 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: the third round what ended up happening was Dawson was 140 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: I mean this, Well, here's one of the things. Dawson 141 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: is a very very talented athlete, you can tell. And 142 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: I love his determination in the third round because what 143 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: you saw him do was he tries to shoot, didn't 144 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: really set it up. He just kind of kept shooting. 145 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: It was at an appropriate distance, but there was no 146 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: setup for it. And he would get kind of close 147 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: to it, but by the third round he was pretty tired. 148 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: Glenn sprawled and then what you see his Dawson pull 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: guard after the failed takedown, which I love. That's I 150 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: really enjoy that move because it's not some lazy concession. 151 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: If you WinCE, you pull guard, you don't just hold 152 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: them and then you take a second and you get 153 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: catch of breath and you've got double under hooks and 154 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: you don't know you That can be lazy, but that's 155 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: not what he was. In fact, it looked to me 156 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: like he was trying to pull it to butterfly and 157 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: then for butterfly to shoot underneath. I could be wrong 158 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: about the butterfly part. I have to go back and check. 159 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: But he pulls it and then eventually you can see 160 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: tries to sit underneath for a sweep, maybe even deep 161 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: half he gets stopped at an awkward spot, so it 162 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: wasn't totally clear what he was trying, but at a 163 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 1: bare minimum, what do you want to do in jiu jitsu? 164 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things you want to do, but 165 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: if you're underneath, you want to get up under the 166 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: opponent to lift them, because if you can lift them. 167 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: You can turn them, you can you can sweep them, 168 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: you can take their back, if you can lift them 169 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: and elevate them. That's really what it's all kind of about. 170 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: And he was trying to get to that point and 171 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Glenn stopped it. And when Glenn stopped him, that's when 172 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: he began to pour on ground and pound and then 173 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: locked up. I believe it was a dars at the end, 174 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: almost finished it. So the fight and the third round ends, 175 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: Glenn stands and looks over and Dawson he's awake, but 176 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: he can you can tell he's loopy, and then he 177 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: falls back and he reaches for his mouthpiece, but he 178 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: doesn't get off the canvas, and you can see the 179 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: referee just looking at him, being like, where's this dude 180 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: going with this? And then eventually he does kind of 181 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: sit up, and Dawson's cornerman, James Krous, comes and picks 182 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: him up, and then there's no controversy. But he almost 183 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: went out in that third and so I guess they 184 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: gave Glenn like a twenty eight or ten eight in 185 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: that round. I'm not sure. I haven't seen the actual scoring, 186 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: but suffice to say, I mean, here's what I would 187 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: say about this fight, It's like, Dude, Grant is Grant. 188 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: Dawson is clearly super talented. H And again, dude, I 189 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: love his like in your face tone setting approach. I 190 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: thought his fence wrestling was was pretty good. He had 191 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: one foot sweep I think in the second round where 192 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: he was digging for a takedown and looking and looking 193 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: and looking, and dude Glenn had clearly prepped well for 194 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: like down blocking and firing under hooks and you know, 195 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: spreading his base when he was against the fence, and 196 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: so you could see the traditional like body and hip 197 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: entries that Dawson was trying to get at that in 198 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: that sequence that weren't They weren't working. But he was 199 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: good at like keeping his hands locked and you know, 200 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: doing somebody locked Matt. There's a lot of Matt returns 201 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: in this fight. And so he then turns him in 202 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: a circle and then trips him and then sends him 203 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: back over the trip. It was just a beautiful footsweep. 204 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: There's almost nothing quite as elegant as a well executed 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: footsweep in like. The kids got skills, for sure, But 206 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: here's my point. You're nearly twenty fights into your career, 207 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: and there were several instances where he would fire into 208 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: takedowns with no set up. Obviously, Glenn is a resisting 209 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: opponent and he was able to get dominant positions on him. 210 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Dawson was, but there wasn't enough ground and pound to 211 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: really make those positions fully count. In fact, by the 212 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: time the third round happened, he was the one that 213 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: was tired from all of that wrestling. All I'm pointing 214 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: out is if you want to give me, if you 215 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: want to tell me to give Dawson a great marks 216 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: on his wrestling track, done easy. Give him good marks 217 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: on you know, poison tenacity, no problem. I can. I 218 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: can give him positive remarks all day. But I think 219 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: if you're twenty fights into your career and you really 220 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: have designs on title contendership, there needs to be a 221 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: greater development of offense in the other phases of the game, 222 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: and there just wasn't. So he has to go to 223 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: this one track. And because he has to go to 224 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: that one track, that can work, but it was largely 225 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 1: a positional control track, which is not really going to 226 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: deter super elite fighters very well. I mean, you could 227 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,839 Speaker 1: see the problem as it develops, so like, dude, there's 228 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: in a couple of phases of the game. You know, 229 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: I don't have anything really negative to say, but I 230 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: really feel like a guy that talented, that athletic, in 231 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: that much tenacity, if he can combine that with some 232 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: better ground and pound, if he can combine that with 233 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, really a sharp, punishing, well timed jab a. 234 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: All it's going to do is make the existing parts 235 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: of his game even better. And then b it's just 236 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: going to give him a couple of extra things to 237 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: lean on and a couple of other branches of offensive 238 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: development to explore that I think would only serve his 239 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: interests here. So a fun fight, but a vexing one 240 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: in certain other ways as well, which takes us one 241 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: fight down the car. Jessica Rose Clark defeating Joscelyn Edwards. 242 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Now at distance, especially like boxing range, what they would 243 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: call mid range, Edwards's hand speed and combinations and accuracy 244 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: were giving the Aussie some problems as she closed distance. 245 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: But once she was able to close distance, this was 246 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: big Ben take a little bank. Eightyfo was in candy paint. 247 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: It was not a whole lot to it at that point. 248 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: J just Goro's Clark putting out a statement later on saying, 249 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, it was really working on her wrestling. It showed. 250 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: I thought her takedowns from the body lock with one 251 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: leg wrapped were fantastic because nowly did she get it down. 252 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: She used a two way kind of pressure that you 253 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: need than on the top of that, she would find 254 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: herself an advantage of position once she was on the ground. 255 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed that. By the way, I think mount 256 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: is a lost art in mixed martial arts. And then 257 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: she spent a considerable amount of time not only finding 258 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: them out but doing I thought, good work from mount, 259 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: even if you're not landing heavy ground and found which again, 260 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: there's a case to be made for that. I want 261 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: to get to that because Michael Bisbeine, I thought, was 262 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: a little too critical of her performance. But holding the back, 263 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: you can't you can drain someone that way, and just 264 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: because you have MOUNT doesn't mean you aren't draining them. 265 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: But I do believe there can be more ways. Personally speaking, 266 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: that's not quite true. I wouldn't say that either. In 267 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: any case, I thought she was doing enough work from 268 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: mount to also tire out her opponent and whatnot. So 269 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: she was great again closing in distance. I thought there 270 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 1: were some issues for Clark. I thought she was getting 271 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: hit a little bit, but once she got it, the 272 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: body lock was overwhelming. The wrestling knowledge against the fence. 273 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 1: There were times when Edwards was really good about getting 274 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: to her side, and you can see Clark reset the 275 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: position by flattening her against the fence and then using 276 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: that to either grab underneath or then pulling her off 277 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: and then using that empty space to search for the takedown. 278 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: She just knew where to find the angles, how to 279 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: reset positions, how to keep positions going over and over again. 280 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: It was a great demonstration. I think a lot of 281 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: the work she's put in for however long was roughly 282 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: two years almost that she had been away, so that 283 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: part was just really a positive. Now there was the 284 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: commentary crew I thought was interesting here. This is not 285 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: a critique of them, because a I think MMA commentary 286 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: is quite difficult and be with the point I wanted 287 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: to make here is the following. They were saying that, 288 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: like you know, yes, when it comes to positional control, 289 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: there was just it was so dominant and so overwhelming 290 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: by Clark that she could not be denied the fact 291 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: that from that standpoint, she was doing a great job, 292 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: but that they thought that if you're you know, there's 293 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: another gear to go to with the ground and pound 294 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: the point I had just made about Grant Dawson for 295 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: that to happen. Here's the thing. I think they were 296 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: a little bit hard on Clark for two reasons. One 297 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: Dawson's most Dawson's best position was from the back, but 298 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: he never really got close to any sub from there. Moreover, 299 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: most of his dominant positions were either from a body 300 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: some version of a body lock, or from side control. 301 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: Clark I thought had a little bit better in terms 302 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: like getting to mountain things like that, where they're just 303 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more offensively ready, or I felt like 304 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: that there was a huge difference in the positions that 305 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: they reached, but Clark didn't have to struggle as much 306 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: to get them. And so you might say that's a 307 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: case to put more ground and pound on. But in 308 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: many cases, like if I'm comfortable enough knowing I can 309 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: get here, why do i need to risk opening this 310 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: up now? You could say, well, because you could also 311 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: get them out of there faster. Right, Here's what I'm 312 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: trying to drive at. I think we need to be very, 313 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: very accommodating of athletes who come back from any kind 314 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: of layoff, whether it was injury or bad luck or 315 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: whatever the circumstance may be visa issues. Who the hell 316 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: knows well. I do think they are right to say 317 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: that they she could have had more ground and pound. 318 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I also think it's fair to say she may have 319 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: been denying herself that to a flex some of the 320 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: new muscles, Like let's put these skills I've been working 321 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: on into actual context in a live session, and hey, 322 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: I've been out of the octagon for a while. I 323 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: might need as much matt time as I can get. 324 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: If I've got this much of a lead on my competitor, 325 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: why not just keep riding that thing out and gain 326 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: as much of this experience as I can. I'm not 327 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: really any danger. It's actually kind of a counterintuitive argument. 328 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: With Dawson, the threat is different. If he didn't get 329 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: the ground and pound in, it was going to come 330 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: back to bite him in the third. There was no 331 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: case where that was really going to happen between Clark 332 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: and Edwards by virtue of the difference. But with Grant 333 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: and Glenn, who was actually a lot closer and so 334 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: for that reason it sounds totally counterintuitive. It's like, well, 335 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: if you can finish them off, Yes, if Clark had 336 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: fought three months ago, I would have thought that was 337 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: an unimpeachable argument. But because it had been such a layoff, 338 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: you've got to give them a set. Some things are 339 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: going to be better about them, some things are going 340 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: to be a bit worse. It's going to be a 341 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: different mixture than what you're expecting. And so for those reasons, 342 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: I thought they were a little bit harsh. But the one 343 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: thing I will say though, was Michael Bisping is a 344 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: great commentator, and I thought he did a great job. 345 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: He always does a good job. Paul Fielder as well. 346 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: But this being is bringing his personal sensibilities about what 347 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: fights should be and how they should be, you know, 348 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: kind of valued and viewed. And he's going to have 349 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: a lot of views that are the consensus in many ways. 350 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: He's going to have some that people think are crazy, 351 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: He's going to have some that people think are super smart, 352 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: and everything in between. But he's going to have his 353 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: own every guy's style of commentary and the ideas that 354 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: underpin them about what kinds of things should be respected 355 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: and valued and pushed to mixed martial arts. It's gonna 356 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: be like a fingerprint, It's going to be all kind 357 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: of their own and so I think he's bringing some 358 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: of that to bear. You can agree with it, you 359 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: could not agree with it entirely up to you, but 360 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: just be cognizant that everyone who sits in that role DC, 361 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: Paul Felder, Michael Bisping, if I sat there, I'm also 362 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: going in this podcast, I'm going to give you the 363 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: things that I think should be counted a little bit 364 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: more or less depending on the circumstance. So all of 365 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: that is a factor in the way that that fight 366 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: was adjudicated, but a good win just the same. And 367 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I understand that she might have wanted as much experience 368 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: as possible if it was that much of a gap 369 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: on her. But if that happened again, or she had 370 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: that much of a gap grappling on her opponent and 371 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: she has been in regular rotation, then I think you 372 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: go back to the original argument that Bisping and Felder 373 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: were making, which is a little bit more here on 374 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: the violence end could have helped them. We talked very 375 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: briefly about Casseris and Sung Wu CHOI. I don't want 376 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: to get to that. We're gonna skip down if we 377 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: can to Mason Jones and David Onama. David Onama came 378 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: into this contest on super late. Notice, I just want 379 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: to say something about this fight that I really believe 380 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: deserves to get noticed, not just for this contest, but 381 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: for the state of MMA. I hear a lot of 382 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: people bitching about the state of MMA fights, like how 383 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: they're boring to them, and I just don't know what 384 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: the fuck they're looking at. To be honest with you, 385 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. MMA burnout is real. Okay, 386 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: I've experienced it many times. You might have experienced it 387 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: at certain intervals of your career or your fandom. Maybe 388 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: you haven't experienced it yet, but if you keep going, 389 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: you're probably going to MMA burns so intensely in people 390 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: that it burns out right. People kind of get overloaded 391 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: with it and then they begin to get rejections, and 392 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: that's utterly fine. First thing I'd say. Second thing i'd 393 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: say is if you want to make the argument that 394 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: MMA has become a little bit more homogeneous as everyone 395 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: tries to sort of key on the things that everyone 396 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: else is good at That's not an unfair argument either. 397 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: But what I wanted to point out about this one 398 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: is well, this is on the prelims. I believe, Yes, yes, 399 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: I think that's right. This fight between Jones and Onama 400 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: at one fifty five was on the prelims. And I 401 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: mean ten years ago you didn't see quality of fights 402 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: like that with skill that good in UFC main events. 403 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: You still don't in certain times. Dude, Mason Jones and 404 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: David Onama can fight now. Neither is perfect. Onama took 405 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: this fight on short notice. He had some grappling issues 406 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: pretty consistently, maybe not been in the best shape because 407 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: he took it on late notice. Normally fights at one 408 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: forty five. He took us at one fifty five fair 409 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Mason Jones. Big problem here was defense. He didn't move 410 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: his head nearly enough, either offensively or defensive. That was 411 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: funny there was early in the fight he hit a 412 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: roll underneath the hook, which you don't see a lot 413 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: of MMA fighters do with their boxing. Was great boxing, 414 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: but was backing up straight at times and just was 415 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 1: ahead on the center line. Was consistently there to be hit, 416 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: and boy Oama found the target over and over again, 417 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: But what Jones did have was phenomenal composure, great takedowns, 418 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: great matt returns himself, great control on the ground, great 419 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: understanding of where everything is going, the ability to mix 420 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: up his strikes on his feet from a variety of 421 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: stances and ranges against Still, the defensive issues were happening, 422 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: but I was blown away at like the positional understanding, 423 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: the technical acumen overall for a fight between a guy 424 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: who's not even a regular one to fifty five and 425 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: another guy, both of them top prospects, but on the 426 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: fucking prelims. On the prelims, when people tell me that 427 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: you know, Mma is like, oh, he used to be 428 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: more exciting, I'm like, dude, when when if you're at 429 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: a particular stage of burnout, fine, I'm not here. Or 430 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: regulate the fandom, you can't make it. It's not possible 431 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: to make an argument that, generally speaking, the level of skill, 432 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 1: which doesn't always translate into the most excitement. I understand 433 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: that argument too, but in general I would also argue 434 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: the greater level of skill and the better the matchmaking. 435 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: And here you have two top prospects in different divisions, 436 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: but in this meeting facing off against one another, and 437 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: the latter guy nearly pulled it off. It's hard for 438 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: me to accept the argument that what is you're really 439 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: watching is not nearly as exciting Mma that to me 440 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: was a thrilling contest, a back and forth, and even 441 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: small stuff to me that would the little details that 442 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: were great. For example, Jones had a consistent ability to 443 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: get to a bodylock behind Onama could make Onama point 444 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: lean to the point where he was wrestling on his hands, 445 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: when by the time he was wrestling on his hands, 446 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: he would now find ways to break him down, find 447 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: the back and whatnot. But Onama was pretty consistently good 448 00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: about creating asymmetry between his back and the chest of Jones, 449 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: so he could get this way and then come around 450 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: and come back on top. Right, You have to create 451 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: some masymmetry and then spin. He was very good at that. 452 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: But Jones was never caught sitting. He knew what was 453 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: always about to happen when he was about to lose 454 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: the position, and you can watch him put in under 455 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: hooks and then various shields with his legs so he 456 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: could stand and create separation but control the position and 457 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: not let it get out of control. As he knew 458 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: it was time to bail guys. That is high level 459 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: decision making. That's high level skill. Even if you could say, well, well, 460 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: higher level skill will be controlling the back, all right. 461 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: Not so easy to control guys who are just you know, 462 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: who may have a great understanding of that position and 463 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: be great athletes on top of it and understand tim 464 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: and they can be hard to control. Anthony Pettis doesn't 465 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: have the world's best jiu jitsu, but it's hard to 466 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: keep control of his back. His escape to rotate on 467 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: top is very, very, very good, and he's used it 468 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: over and over again. I really want folks to reflect 469 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of what when they say, oh, well, 470 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: Emma is more boring. There is something to the argument 471 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: about homogeneity. There is something to the argument about very 472 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 1: much something to the argument about burnout. And the argument 473 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: that just because they're better doesn't necessarily translate into better 474 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 1: fights is one thousand percent true. It's clearly a true statement. 475 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: But over time, in general, the better fighters get at fighting. 476 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: It's extremely difficult for me to think this is a 477 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: reduction what we should This is a this is a 478 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: lesser version of what we normally enjoyed. Also, if you 479 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: just watch a wider array of different types of MMA, 480 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: where you're not just watching UFC or UFC in Bellotore, 481 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: but you're watching some LFA, you watch some KSW one occasion, 482 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: stuff that happens in Japan, some one whatever. You vary 483 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: it up from weight classes to countries, to rule sets 484 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: and the like, you're going to get very different experiences 485 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: along the way, and they tend to find one or 486 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: another that's going to be something more fitting to your needs, 487 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: especially needs at that time. Okay, how many have we done? 488 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: I think we've done. I have one more to do right, 489 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Oh yes, the Jonathan Martinez za Villa lash Villi guy. 490 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: Now this guy za Villa las Olasashvili neededly out of 491 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: Georgia now trains at KAIS and MMA sort of out 492 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: of the DC area. He's a great fighter. He was 493 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: coming on a short notice on this one as well. 494 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: He was the LFA bansamweight champion, So it made say 495 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: when I watched this fight, two things stood out to me. One, 496 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: he is quite ready for this level. He has his 497 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: overall level of skills, his understanding of how to pursue 498 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: different strategies and positions. He is plenty. Right, Once you 499 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: become like a champion at LFA, you're you're you know, 500 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: you're overqualified for entry at a bare minimum to the UFC. 501 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: But I think the other thing I learned here was, 502 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: of course coming in a short notice, how how prep 503 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: what were you know? How much how ready was He's 504 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: a different question. I would say Martinez his takedown defence, 505 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: both along the fence line and an open space, both 506 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: of them, it got way better, I thought Laza SHVILLI. 507 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. There were times he was 508 00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: trying to hook the back leg and he couldn't get 509 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: his leg over it. I was surprised he didn't go 510 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: to some of the other counters there where you can 511 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: step in front, rotate him and kick out the front leg. 512 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: You can what James Krause calls crashing into the hip 513 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: and then you can step behind him that way. He 514 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: just kind of gave up on the position a little bit. 515 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: So maybe he's just trying to preserve as Cardio could be. 516 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing I know this was fainting. He 517 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: did faint in the fight, but they didn't ever seem 518 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: to confuse Martinez. Martinez never really bit too hard on them, 519 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: he never really adjusted too much off of them, and 520 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: LASiS Viglia, as a consequence, had trouble with range. He 521 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: couldn't ever fake his way into getting to a spot 522 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: where he was able to have most effective use of 523 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: the range, where he could set the tone from the range. 524 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: It was actually Martinez who was able to do that, 525 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: both by stopping the wrestling and then being also a 526 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: little bit first, but also he wasn't tricked by anything 527 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: that Lasas Philly was doing to establish better range for himself, 528 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: some of the faints and some of the things that 529 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: obviously when you faint not just setting up other shots, 530 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: but you can set up angle changes, you can cheat 531 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: the distance with them, and he was just constantly getting 532 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: his timing split and getting caught at the end of 533 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 1: them because they just weren't very convincing. Which what lesson 534 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: can you infer there? Well, Fainting is a skill. Fainting 535 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: is not just a thing that you do. You have 536 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: to And I'm not saying loads of Sphelia doesn't understand this. 537 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 1: He and Esteem understand this quite well. I just mean 538 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 1: to say, for the audience's sake, it's something you have 539 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: to perfect. People get people how well can you trick 540 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: someone by how good you are at faking or fainting. 541 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: Those take time to develop. You have to practice fainting. 542 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: I know guys who win, they shadow box. They don't 543 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: just shadow box combinations or look for speed or whatever. 544 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: They shadow box faints and then they'll do nothing. But 545 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: they'll do nothing but literally shadow boxing fainting. They'll do 546 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: like ten three minute rounds of just fainting, just all fainting. 547 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: And they do this all the time, and it's really 548 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: you could see the ones who are convincing with it. 549 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: You can see the opponent's bite or back up or 550 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: hands come up or whatever. There's just a lot of 551 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: that you can see. So there you go. Quick note. 552 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: I thought very I won't really focus on it, but 553 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: the SUSA and Marcus fight. Susa, you know, I thought 554 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: she was going to take over UFC, and it just 555 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been a bit of a failure to launch since 556 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: she got here. Kama Worthy and Jai Herbert, I'm seeing 557 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: a lot of problems for guys defending like this in MMA, 558 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: especially in the warning track and Herbert's combinations and hand 559 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: speed ability to push Worthy into the warning track and 560 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 1: then to take advantage of some of defensive opportunities I 561 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: thought was tremendous. There were some great knockouts along the way. 562 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: Negu Marianu was a weird fight against Villanueva or Vionueva, 563 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: especially with the shots to the back of the head. 564 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: A lot to say about a lot of these other fights, 565 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: but those are the ones I focused on in for today. 566 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: What was your favorite fight from the weekend and what 567 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: did you think about it? Leave a comment below thumbs 568 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: up on the video hit so subscribe. Yeah, what else 569 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: do you want to see from the podcast? Let us know, 570 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: give us an update, give us some feedback, tell us 571 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: what you like, tell us what you don't like. Let's 572 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: see if we can get this right. Okay, thank you 573 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: guys so much for watching, and until next time, enjoy 574 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: the fights.