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Speaker 1: It's Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning. And do you

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Speaker 1: ever think back on an old friendship you had or

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Speaker 1: a stranger that you met once and thought, huh is

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Speaker 1: it me? Or did I permanently ruin their life?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well, another jagerbomb? Please. I don't know that I've ever

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Speaker 1: thought that, Jeff, really, because I would think for the

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Speaker 1: people in this room, the answer is almost definitely yes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we're just not self aware enough to is that

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Speaker 2: the problem?

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Speaker 1: Who ever met us is probably worse off for it.

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Speaker 1: But one of our listeners, Courtney, is hoping that's not

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Speaker 1: the case for her after something happened years ago and

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Speaker 1: now she wants our help to get a little closure

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Speaker 1: on it. Courtney, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hi guys, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Just gut feeling right now. Are you a bad person?

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Speaker 3: It keeps me up at night?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's very self aware of you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that people, Jeff, People that just make bad choices.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Courtney, you're a bad choice person.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well maybe not. We don't know yet. Jerry still out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well you're losing sleep bombs.

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Speaker 1: After we hear your story, but go ahead and tell

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Speaker 1: us why you emailed the show for help?

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Speaker 3: All right, So let me take you back to years ago.

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Speaker 3: I was talking to this guy online. And this was

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Speaker 3: before online dating was like how people met people.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was still kind of a weird thing

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Speaker 1: The Wild West of online.

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Speaker 2: Dating, only the desperate people did it at that time.

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Speaker 2: Now everybody does.

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Speaker 1: Wild Girl Courtney.

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Speaker 3: So I'm at this guy and we started this online relationship.

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Speaker 2: Okay, nice.

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Speaker 3: So he lived kind of far away from each other.

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Speaker 3: It was like a three hour drive, but we were

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Speaker 2: Okay, and I mean three hours sucks, but it's doable.

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Speaker 3: So we were trying to find a time to meet

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Speaker 3: So one night I decided to google his name and

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Speaker 3: I got a very shocking search result. I found his

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, yeah, you're.

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Speaker 1: Sure it was him, Like it wasn't a guy with pictures.

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Speaker 1: So which item did you get for him? Did you

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Speaker 2: I always love towels. I think nice towels are good.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the gravy boat. I always went with the gravy boat.

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Speaker 1: I got broken decanter for her wedding. Yeah, she always

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Speaker 3: I didn't give him a gravy boat or a decanter.

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Speaker 2: Or did you call him out on it?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: At that point, I wasn't even sure what to do.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I have two choices. One I can

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Speaker 2: That's a choice. I don't think that should be on

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Speaker 1: That's always a choice. Remember she started this by saying

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Speaker 3: I was, you know, pursue the relationship and confront the

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Speaker 2: was just the registered Yes. I didn't understand that both.

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Speaker 1: Of these options are major decisions. Yeah, either way, what

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Speaker 3: So I ended up opting for emailing his fiance and

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Speaker 4: Honestly, you'd have to because nobody would believe you. I

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Speaker 1: Oh, I've known of people that try to say, listen,

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Speaker 2: Of our relation. Totally, I'm being serious.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Alexis, what would you do in this situation?

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Speaker 3: She did? She did? And you know when you see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every time Brook texts me, what did she write?

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Speaker 3: So it was actually really brief and literally all it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what else?

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Speaker 4: Would you expect her to say, like, hey, girly, thanks, yeah,

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean it sounds like you gave her

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Speaker 1: I have a question, did you ever tell him? Did

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Speaker 1: you say, by the way I message your fiance, you're

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Speaker 3: Like no, I was just like, you know what, he's

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, who do you not have closure with?

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. I never found out what happened.

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Speaker 3: I've just been wondering, like, did they call off the wedding?

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Speaker 3: Did they still go through it with it? Did my

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Speaker 2: Curious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance that you could have completely

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Speaker 2: No, No, he ruined the couple relationship. She didn't.

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Speaker 1: It would never have been ruined if she hadn't sent

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Speaker 1: People won't explain the girl. I'm just I don't know

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Speaker 3: Right? So I found the girl on Instagram, but it's

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Speaker 3: And that's why I want your guys to help to

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Speaker 3: because it's driving me crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's my god.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, wait, how many years ago was this again?

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Speaker 3: It was like over a decade ago?

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Speaker 2: Whoa, the baby could be anybody's.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true too. Oh god, this is tricky. We're

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Speaker 1: That's what we do best. So, Courtney, you worked with

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Speaker 1: over a decade ago. She wrote back, Oh, she did,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out once and for all. Are you

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Speaker 1: It's true, no question about that, But she never found

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Speaker 1: And the not knowing has bugged Courtney all these years.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm really nervous and excited, and it's I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm worried that she just responded with a restraining order.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're about to find out once and for all.

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Speaker 1: Now again, Courtney, you worked with our producer on sending

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Speaker 1: Let's get into your first question. Okay, the first one

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Speaker 1: we sent was when I contacted you eleven years ago.

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Speaker 2: Did you marry him? Did you break up with him?

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Speaker 1: Right? And so this girl wrote back, Wow, Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Well, isn't it kind of obvious?

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Speaker 1: Well maybe he was doing it with a whole bunch

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some much nicer words than I would have used.

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Speaker 1: So we called off the wedding.

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Speaker 2: Oh they did?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, didn't you expect that, Courtney?

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I don't know. The mind does some

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Speaker 1: I like that sentiment. But hold on, because there's more.

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Speaker 1: She says, Oh god. But a few months later we

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I'm speechless. Like how you called off

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Speaker 1: Courtney, Are you one of those people who believes once

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not even about the cheating, it's about

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Speaker 1: Courtney. At least you made him pay for two different weddings.

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Speaker 1: So that's one of the second question. And remember we're

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Speaker 1: so just to be one hundred percent sure. After a

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Speaker 2: Maybe you shouldn't have got married.

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Speaker 1: That's a healthy relationship. If we talked to the couple,

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Speaker 1: every marriage goes through the private investigator. She keeps going.

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Speaker 1: She says, to my surprise, there was no infidelity parentheses,

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Speaker 2: But did she starts sleeping with the PI.

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Speaker 1: She says, I, on the other hand, fell in love

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Speaker 3: Admit this woman is stupid, she says.

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Speaker 1: I'm ashamed to admit started an affair with him. I

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm angry right now.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you're angry. You're not happy that she finally found

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Speaker 3: Her at all. I spent ten years of my life

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Speaker 2: I mean, relationships are complicated things. Black che everyone. I

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Speaker 2: don't that, but I think that like it doesn't make

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, let's agree to disagree on that one. We

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Speaker 1: middle of our closure call, we're trying to help out Courtney.

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Speaker 1: Can Courtney figure out what happened between this couple after

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Speaker 1: she sent them an email saying your Beyonce has been

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Speaker 1: talking to me online. So this is ten years later,

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Speaker 1: and we wrote, tell me what your life is like today?

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Speaker 1: Do you have any kids? Et cetera.

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Speaker 2: Would you already knew because you looked at her Instagram profile?

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Speaker 1: Well, we didn't know if that was her kid. It

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Speaker 1: I didn't think of that, so she wrote back, I

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Speaker 2: Which was a terrible relationship. We can all agree on that.

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Speaker 1: She says, Yeah, I feel safe now, and even though

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Speaker 3: I don't feel warm and fuzzy about that.

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Speaker 1: Really like your options? Did you want her to end

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Speaker 3: No, that's a good question. You know what I thought

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Speaker 3: I would have been satisfied with is that, hey, you

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Speaker 2: Ad She got to the learn about respect thing. It

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Speaker 1: I mean, you never know. Coordinating things could not work

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Speaker 1: and maybe that would make you.

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Speaker 3: I would bet that they won't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, she keeps going, she says, So I really

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Speaker 1: Everything happens for a reason. I never would have found

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Speaker 1: the love of my life if it wasn't for path

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Speaker 1: you started me on.

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Speaker 3: That's a little cute.

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Speaker 1: She gave you a little praise there. Okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to this last question. The fourth and final question

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Speaker 1: we sent was do you have any advice for me

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Speaker 1: regarding my love life. I'm recently single and have been

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Speaker 1: scared away from online dating. Understandably, any tips would be great.

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Speaker 2: We're asking for.

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Speaker 1: Courtney wanted a little bit of advice.

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Speaker 2: I no longer Hey, she fell love.

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Speaker 1: You don't read it. I know you don't want it, Courtney,

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Speaker 1: good private investigator. I know who can do a thorough

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Speaker 1: background check on any man you want, completely free of

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Speaker 1: charge for the rest of your life. Oh free, she says.

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Speaker 1: It's the least I can do for you after what

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Speaker 4: Please don't sleep with this one of hers too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys went for the same toxic man ask

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Speaker 1: Well, look at that, Courtney. You have a lifetime private

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, that is a perk. I do enjoy that,

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Speaker 1: So, I know at the beginning of this call you

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Speaker 1: maybe by the end now you got a little bit

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Speaker 1: of closure? Yes.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think I'm reacting so strongly because I

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Speaker 1: But I don't think any of us expected what came.

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Speaker 3: Out of here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a crazy housewife drama novel.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it sounds like you two are going to

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Speaker 4: be having a little wine spritzer together soon, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And Brooke might need that private investigator for herself in

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Speaker 1: just a few years to stay in touch. That's her

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Speaker 1: closure call. It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Brooking Jeffrey in the morning,