1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Welcome in second hour of Play and Bok, Let's talk 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: about the razor wire removal at the border. 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: This is what we know. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: The Supreme Court has come down with a five four 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: a five to four decision on whether the Biden administration 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: has the right to actively remove via border patrol this 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: concertina or razor wire. 10 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 3: I believe. 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: I believe barbwire started with cattle ranchers in the American 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 2: West and then made its way to the front in 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 2: World War One, and then it became much more widespread. 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: And obviously razor wire is a form of barbed wire anyway. 15 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: But they've been putting this barbed wire in a few 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: places on the soil of the state of Texas. Yes, 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 2: it's obviously also US land, but it is Texas soil. 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: And they're putting this razor wire down so that migrants 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: will stop rushing through in these areas. 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: And this is meant to make it easier for. 21 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: Border patrol to do their jobs in Texas National Guard 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: to assist in this process. I would be interested to 23 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: see how both sides would would play out in these 24 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: legal arguments. I mean there's a few points to the 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: razor wire side of the equation of the pro ra 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 2: pro razor wire. 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 28 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: I mean the State of Texas effectively, Attorney General Paxton 29 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: and Governor Abbott. We reach out to Governor Abbitt. He's 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: abroad right now, but he'll we'll be talking to him 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: hopefully next week about this. There are a few things. 32 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: One is, there's an argument that Texas has as a 33 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 2: state sovereign right to put up barbed wire on Texas soil, 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: and this shouldn't be something. You know, they have police 35 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: powers and if they want to put Barbwyer on one 36 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 2: side of the Rio Grand, they should be able to 37 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: put Barbwyer one side of the Rio Grand. 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: That's part of the argument. Another part of the argument 39 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: is that the. 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 2: Biden was gonna say Obama administration, whoops, that's a's a slip. 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 2: The exactly I know the Biden administration has neglected its 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: duties effectively is engaging in nullification of federal immigration law 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 2: and therefore created an emergency situation akin to an invasion, 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: which under constitutional authority, a state can respond to with 45 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 2: you know, effectively, Sorry, guys, this is an emergency. You know, 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: we're not waiting for the federal government. If all of 47 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 2: a sudden North Korea invades Oregon, Oregon's allowed to fight 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: back and do what it can and use the national Guard. 49 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: They don't have to say, wait, where's my congressional authorization 50 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 3: for war? 51 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: Different Obviously you're talking about people migrating, not an invasion 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: of you know, North Korean tanks, but you get the 53 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 2: idea that's part of this as well. But Clay the 54 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: area where I think this gets. First of all, the 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: politics of this look terrible for the Biden administration and 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: election year. So I think it's a political loser for 57 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: them because they want to make it easier. It's not 58 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: they're having border patrol cut the wire and remove the wire. 59 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: It's not even like they're saying, well, we don't want 60 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: to do this or we're not. They're they're actively withdrawing 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 2: or removing these barbed wire areas. And beyond that, the 62 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: justification the Biden administration has had as this has made 63 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: its way up through you know court, federal court, appeals court, 64 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: is that this interferes with border patrols right to do 65 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 2: their to do their job. 66 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: So part of their explanation for this. 67 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: The Biden administration explanation is, well, we can't process migrants 68 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: in these areas the way we want to because of 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: the razor wire. I think they're making arguments there in 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: clearly bad faith and they just want the open border 71 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: to continue, and everybody sees it. 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna put my lawyer hat on here, 73 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna sound like a super nerd, and I 74 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 4: would just ask lawyers that are out there listening, particularly 75 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 4: if you have had immigration law experience, tell me whether 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: or not you agree with this eight hundred two two 77 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: two eight A two. So we don't have a written 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: opinion really, right, So this is just a five to 79 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 4: four decision involving a fifth circuit issue sending it back. Ultimately, 80 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: warriors try to distill every case into a single sentence. 81 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: Buck. This is one of the things you learn in 82 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 3: law school. 83 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 4: What's the question of the case, And to me, the 84 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: ultimate question is here, And I'm answering this as if 85 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: I'm Amy Cony Barrett, who I believe was a law 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: professor at Notre Dame. And this is one of the 87 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: ways that you would instruct young lawyers. The first most 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: basic principle here that I think has to be asked 89 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 4: is who is the decider in a dispute between the 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: federal government and a state government over a border security 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 4: immigration related issue. 92 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 3: Who is the decider? 93 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 4: Is that the State of Texas and their chief executive, 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 4: Governor Greg Abbott or by the way, who also went 95 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 4: to Vanderbilt Law School with me, and I'd be curious 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 4: just have like an actual legal discussion with him on 97 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: this because he has super smart lawyers advising him to 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 4: or is at the United States with their chief executive 99 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: Joe Biden as president, right. 100 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: I think what amy Cony. 101 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 4: Barrett here is deciding is this is a federal government 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 4: issue and the opinion of the president and the executive 103 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: branch overrides the opinion of the state executive because federal 104 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 4: power trump's state power when it comes to this particular 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: issue of immigration law. Okay, So that is what I 106 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 4: think she is doing in general, and I think what 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 4: she would say again, I'm trying to answer because not 108 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: a written opinion. I think what amy Cony Barrett would 109 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 4: say from a presidential level is that means the president 110 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 4: basically has supreme authority on border security related issues, and 111 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: so if Donald Trump is in office, he's going to 112 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 4: immediately get sued buck for every decision that he makes. 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 4: You know this, I know this. You're going to try 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: to build a wall. There's going to be every lawsuit 115 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 4: known demand that can be filed. What Amy Kobe Barrett 116 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 4: is saying here is I am going to defer to 117 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: the chief executive of the United States government, the President, 118 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 4: to make decisions as it pertains to immigration law. His 119 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: power is the supreme, he is the decider. Now, if 120 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: you have an issue with that, and I would love 121 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 4: to have her on, she would never come on. But again, 122 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 4: as a law professor to walk you through it, I 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 4: think she would say, if you have an issue with 124 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 4: the decisions that are being made by the chief executive 125 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 4: of the United States, you should hold him accountable. And 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: the way that you would hold him accountable is by 127 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 4: impeaching him for failing to apply the law. 128 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: A couple of things. 129 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 2: One is the contention of the Biden White House is 130 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 2: that putting up this putting up this razor wire makes 131 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: their harder, which is crazy, like this is so so 132 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: there's on the one hand, it's there's there's a bat. 133 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 3: Now you could say it's a dispute over what the 134 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 3: job is right. 135 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: That's and that's why it's ultimately the question to me 136 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 4: is who is the decider as to what the job 137 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: is right? 138 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: But I mean it's it's a it's a function of 139 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: can you tell the state of Texas? Like what what 140 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: else can you tell the state of Texas without trampling 141 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: on the states rights here? 142 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 5: Right? 143 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: Which is why we have a civil war? I mean, 144 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: can you. 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: Tell them, oh, you know what you actually have to 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: give us? You know, ten miles of land near the 147 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: border for entry. It's like, well, is that is that 148 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: congressional statue or is that just the executive branch? So 149 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't think it's yeah, there's a reason. So what 150 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: I was gonna say to you is, I mean, there's 151 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: a reason this is a five to four right? If 152 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: this was nine, No, we'd feel very differently. I think Alito, 153 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: and I think Thomas, and I think, uh, gotcha with 154 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: the guy from the blonde hair what's his name? I 155 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: was thinking of the other guy, Gorse, thank you Gorsic, 156 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: Neil Gorsics. What they would say about this, I think 157 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: is that this is you know that this isn't a 158 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: specifically like putting razor wire down in Texas is not 159 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: a specifically federal issue. The state of Texas can do 160 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: this wherever it wants to do in the state of Texas. 161 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: You know, if one thing, if they were saying, oh, 162 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: we're going to take people and younilatterally deport them all 163 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: on behalf of the United States government. 164 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 3: As great as that may sound to some people, like. 165 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: That's clearly abrogating a federal a federal prerogative, I think. 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: But to put down razor wire on your side of 167 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: the river, it's like, well, the state of Texas gets 168 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: to make determinations about things like that all the time. 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 2: So that's I mean, you know, like, why do you 170 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: think Alito would would have said you can't cut the wire? 171 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: Why did Alito say you can't cut the wire? We 172 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: don't have written opinions. No, I know, that's what I'm 173 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: gonna say. So the. 174 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 3: Elite telling you what I think the Alito explanation. 175 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 4: I think the Alito explanation would be that this it 176 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: does not direct infringe on the federal government's ability to 177 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 4: implement the immigration policy of its choice, and that Texas 178 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: has the right to protect its sovereignty. 179 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 3: And soil from a foreign invader. 180 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: I think that's I mean, yes, I agree, I think 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: I think I think that would be his argument succinctly put. 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: I think that's a compelling argument. Now I know it's 183 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: five four, but I mean to me, you sit here 184 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,479 Speaker 2: and you say the whole, because this is why interfering 185 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: is the whole, because Texas can put you know, if 186 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: Texas wants to build a wall in Texas, Texas can 187 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: build a wall in Texas. 188 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 6: Right. 189 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: There has to be something now you when you get 190 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: to the actual border itself, now you're I forget even 191 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: how this is, but there's like it is fed territory. 192 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: Right again, by the question the guy asked before, I 193 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: didn't mean to be dismissive of it. He does have 194 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: a point when he said, how far inland can they 195 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: make these determinations? This has to be This has been 196 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: litigated before where you had border stops effectively that were 197 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 2: one hundred miles from the border, and people were like, well, 198 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: hold on a second, how are you doing border stops 199 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: one hundred miles from the border. 200 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 4: Right, So, and what's fascinating about this, tubuc is? I mean, one, 201 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: if you're a history nerd, like I am. You go 202 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 4: all the way back to the nullification controversy right during 203 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: South Carolina pre Civil War, basically said we can nullify 204 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: laws that the federal government passes that we as South 205 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 4: Carolinians do not support. And then and again, this is 206 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 4: being very legal nerd. But a lot of people don't 207 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 4: realize this. The Southern States, when they succeeded, Jefferson Davis 208 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 4: hoped that he was going to be arrested for seceding 209 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 4: as a like. He hoped that it was going to 210 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 4: go before the Supreme Court because his belief and the 211 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 4: belief of many Southern states in the eighteen sixty timeframe 212 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: when they withdrew, when they succeeded, was that every individual 213 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 4: state had the constantutional right to withdraw from the United 214 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 4: States government. And subsequent to the Civil War, that's been 215 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 4: taken away. But coming out of the dread Scott decision 216 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,359 Speaker 4: and all these other things, interesting. 217 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 5: Isn't it. 218 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: I Mean, we thought we had a god given right 219 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: to secede from Great Britain. So you get into some 220 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: deep philosophical stuff here. 221 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 7: Now. 222 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: The British were not happy. 223 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: They thought we were their people, correct, and the people 224 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: who were in the South. Many of them said, to 225 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 4: your point, historically, we are doing the same thing to 226 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 4: the United States that the United States did to Great Britain. 227 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: That is, when you believe that the government no longer 228 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 4: represents you, you are not bound and determined and obligated 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: to remain a member of the Union. And so each 230 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 4: of these southern states voted, the people of those states 231 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 4: voted to secede and join the Confederate States. And Abraham 232 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: Lincoln said, no, you cannot do that, and invaded. And 233 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 4: we had the war over whether or not that was allowed, 234 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: and now it had has been determined that you cannot succeed. 235 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 4: So this is to me a natural outgrowth of the 236 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 4: battle of states rights right which we have continued to 237 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 4: fight for some time over what does the state have 238 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 4: the obligation and ability to do and and and ultimately 239 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 4: this comes down to who has the decision. 240 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: This is you know, you brought up nullification, and I 241 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 2: think that what the American people are seeing is that 242 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: the Biden administration's policy at our southern border is day 243 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: facto nullification of congressionally passed statutes on immigration. Which is 244 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: why I think he Joe Biden, should be impeached based 245 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: on what's going on at the southern border. I mean, 246 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 2: I can't agree. I just feel like, you know, we're 247 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: gonna impeach him, He's not gonna get removed. That's that's 248 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: the you know, the pol's the truth. And I understand 249 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: you can take that political step. I mean, the impeachment 250 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: has become just sort of a de facto uh, you know, 251 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: sort of like stamp of disapproval because you're not going 252 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: to get sixty seven votes in the Senate to remove anybody. 253 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: Here's what's really different, and I think very important right 254 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: now about the immigration debate and why this is really 255 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: becoming a problem for Democrats and they know it. 256 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 3: That's why they're trying to do this Senate. 257 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: And by the way, I think this ruling is bad 258 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: for them too. 259 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: Yes, oh absolutely. For Look, Texas is playing a brilliant 260 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: hand here. They're trying to secure the border, and if 261 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: they're not allowed to secure the border, it's very obvious 262 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: it's because the Biden administration is saying, hey, Texas, you 263 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 2: can't secure the border, right, So there's no win here 264 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: for Biden. 265 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: For them to argue that Republicans are to blame for 266 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 4: border lack of security when Greg Abbott is trying to 267 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 4: shut down the border and Biden is going to the 268 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: Supreme Court to keep it open. 269 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would just say the big difference right 270 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: now and in this year about how this is going 271 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: to play out is that because of the migrants, the illegals, 272 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: and all these cities that are living on the streets 273 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 2: that are breaking city budgets that are overwhelming emergency rooms 274 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: and schools and everything else, people see this problem now 275 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: in a way that they know it is their problem. 276 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people before illegal immigration 277 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: was a theoretical issue for them, but doesn't matter where 278 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: you live. When you see the financial impact of illegal 279 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: immigrants in major cities, you understand that this has a 280 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: national impact and it's going to affect the future of 281 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: the country. It's going to affect goods and services that 282 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: are given to us by the or services rather and 283 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: the welfare date of the government. So it's a big 284 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: problem for them. They can't just make this problem go away. 285 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 2: Eight hundred two A two two eight A two. What 286 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: do you think about what Texas is doing? 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That's Our American Stories. 303 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: From the front lines of freedom and truth. 304 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 305 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Politically, this 306 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: is a disaster for the Biden administration because what it 307 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 4: does is guarantee that there's no argument out there really 308 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: for the Biden administration to even attempt to argue that 309 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 4: they're trying to shut down the border in any way. 310 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: And Peter Dousey asked, I believe John Kirby about this 311 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 4: just today. 312 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 3: I think this is from today. Here's the audio. 313 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 8: Why are you guys making it easier for people to 314 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,359 Speaker 8: enter the country illegally? 315 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 2: We believe we are. 316 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: Why do you think we are? 317 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 8: Well, you guys sued to cut razor wire that was 318 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 8: put in place by Texas officials so the Border Patrol 319 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 8: could actually do their jobs. 320 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 3: But keep going, well you want in court? 321 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 8: So now what the Border Patrol Union president is saying 322 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 8: the Supreme Court's decision is going to undoubtedly encourage more 323 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 8: illegal immigration. 324 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: Do you guys know better than the Border Patrol Union. 325 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: The Border Patrol needed access, and that's why we sue 326 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: to get rid of that razor wire so that they 327 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: could do their jobs. 328 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: And you know what would else will help them do 329 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: their jobs? 330 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: Peter more border patrol agents. 331 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: There's an idea they're lying. 332 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: Just to be clear, Border Patrol has to take orders 333 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: from DHS, which takes orders from Joe Biden. The Border Patrol. 334 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: Union guys, they are career. 335 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 2: Border patrol officers who can speak their minds and know 336 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: what's going on, and they're saying, what's obvious, this is 337 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: bull crap and everybody knows it. 338 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 4: I mean, does anybody out there think that razor wire 339 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 4: is making things. 340 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: Harder for border patrol to do their jobs? 341 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: I mean they put razor wire all over fences in 342 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 4: prisons to ensure that prisoners don't get out. I mean, 343 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 4: razor wire is there to try to make fewer people 344 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 4: come into the country. And again, this is a major battle, 345 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 4: and the Supreme Court getting drawn up into it is messy. 346 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: But I think ultimately what's important for everybody out there 347 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 4: to understand is the Biden administration is fighting in courts. 348 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 4: They went all the way to the Supreme Court to 349 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 4: try to make it easier for legal immigrants to enter 350 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: the country. My kid's been out of school for a while. 351 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 4: They finally went back today. Oh, they've been out of 352 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: school for a long time. Over All the snow that's 353 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 4: going on, this is the time of year. It's cold 354 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: out there. 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Good to talk to you, 372 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: as always good talking to you. 373 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 6: Thanks so much. 374 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: We do want to ask you about what's going on 375 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: with the New Hampshire primary, but if we can, first, 376 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,440 Speaker 2: I just want to get your reaction to this five 377 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 2: to four Supreme Court decision that the Biden administration has 378 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: the right to remove razor wire from the border and 379 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: thus make it easier for illegals and for fentanol and 380 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: drug dealers and all the rest of it to get 381 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: into the country. 382 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: It was disappointing to see this decision out of the 383 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 6: Supreme Court yesterday. I understand that there will be another 384 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: review of a case, and of course we know constitutionally, 385 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 6: if a if the federal government does not fulfill its 386 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: obligation to defend the states, the state has the right 387 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 6: to defend themselves, and that is the action Texas was 388 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 6: taking defending themselves against an invasion. So it's going to 389 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 6: be interesting to see when they take a second bite, 390 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 6: its disapple what direction that they're going to travel. But 391 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 6: I think most people agree that Texas is there to 392 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 6: defend their border. They are there to defend the private 393 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 6: property of ranchers and farmers that live along that border, 394 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 6: and you're going to see them continue to push to 395 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 6: secure that area and secure their communities. We've all heard 396 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 6: about what has happened there in the Rio Grande Valley, 397 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 6: what has appleed, happened to Eagle Pass, and we've heard 398 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 6: these stories from citizens that live there that have demanded 399 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: that the state step up and help them to protect themselves. 400 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 4: Senator Blackburn with US now marsh I appreciate you coming 401 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: on tonight. Obviously we will get the results in New Hampshire. 402 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: Trump is a big favorite to win there, as he 403 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 4: did in Iowa as well. Zooming that Trump wins there. 404 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: I bet you know Nikki Haley at least a little 405 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 4: bit over the years. I'm sure you guys have crossed paths. 406 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 4: Do you think she should end her campaign if she 407 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 4: loses in New Hampshire tonight? 408 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: Do you think she will? 409 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, Clay, I think it is so important for her 410 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 6: to end her campaign. And I do know her, and 411 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 6: I know that she is a hard worker, and she 412 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 6: has served her state in her country in times past 413 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 6: and has had done it well. I think that the 414 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 6: voters have spoken. And whether you're looking at the resounding victory, 415 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: historic win in Iowa or what is going to be 416 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 6: a historic win in New Hampshire and the pulling that 417 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 6: is coming out of the state South Carolina, the Super 418 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 6: Tuesday state, President Donald Trump is going to be the 419 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 6: party's nominee. It is time for us to unite this party. 420 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 6: It is time for us to stand with President Trump. 421 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 6: It is time for us to put all of our 422 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 6: efforts into a general election effort to make certain that 423 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 6: he wins, to make certain that we take the Senate, 424 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 6: that we keep the House, that we do well in 425 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 6: our state based elections for governor, for state House, for 426 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,479 Speaker 6: state Senate, and Republicans need to put their attention on 427 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 6: that and any time, any dollar that we spend on 428 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 6: these primary races is time and money that we don't 429 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: have to put into winning in November, and winning in 430 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 6: November having President Trump in the White House, making certain 431 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 6: we get this country back on track. That is where 432 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 6: we need to spend our time. 433 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of Senator Marshall Blackburn of Tennessee, Senator playin and 434 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 2: I frequently speak about what now it seems Donald Trump 435 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: previously the Republican nominee, whoever it was, but it seems 436 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: it will in fact be Trump. What he'll be facing 437 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 2: on the other side of the political spectru Marriman, who's 438 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 2: going to be the Democrat candidate. What do you think 439 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 2: their plan is going to be? With Biden trailing so 440 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: badly already in these polls, I mean, how do you 441 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: see them trying to make up that gap? 442 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 6: And what we know is that the Biden camp has 443 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 6: said that he will be the nominee and he is 444 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 6: running for reelection, and they don't seem to have a 445 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 6: plan or a recognition of how poorly he is doing 446 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 6: in the polls. And when you look at how his 447 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 6: popularity has continued to drop since he was sworn in, 448 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 6: that was his high water mark and he is not 449 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 6: going to win this. And there again, this is one 450 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 6: of those reasons, the fact that the Democrats are not 451 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 6: realistic about this. They're not realistic about where the American 452 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 6: people in are on these issues. And you look at 453 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 6: the polling and where are independents moving. They are moving 454 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: to President Trump. And the reason they're doing that is 455 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 6: because they remember what the economy was like, what our 456 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 6: border security was like under President Trump. They remember that 457 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 6: our enemies feared us, and that our allies knew that 458 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 6: they were an ally. All of these things are weighing 459 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: on their minds as they look at what is going 460 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 6: to happen in twenty twenty four. So I think there's 461 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 6: time for people to get on Team Trump. It's time 462 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 6: for people to realize it's a Democrat. I just kind 463 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 6: of have their head in the sand. That's fine. Biden 464 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 6: hasn't worked for them the way they thought it was 465 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 6: going to work. People are not buying their message. We 466 00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 6: have an opportunity to put this country on the right track, 467 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: and I think we should take it. 468 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: If Donald Trump came to you, Senator Blackburn, I know 469 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 4: you're up for reelection and you are obviously going to 470 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 4: win comfortably. I'm not even sure what nut case is 471 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 4: going to be running against you here in Tennessee, but 472 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: I look forward to voting for you in the primary 473 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: in March and then in the general in November. But 474 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 4: if Donald Trump came to you, and I've seen your 475 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 4: name somewhat bandied about as a VP candidate, if he 476 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: asked you who you would suggest he should be looking 477 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 4: at as VP, who would you tell him? 478 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 6: And you know I will first say my reelection effort. 479 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 6: Thanks for mentioning that, Marcia Blackburn dot com. That's where 480 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 6: your listeners will find me and can support my work. 481 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: And I would encourage all of you to go donate 482 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 4: to Marsha. She's doing a great job as my senator 483 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: and as many of your senators in Tennessee, but also 484 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 4: doing a good job advocating for sanity. I was excited 485 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 4: to vote for you in eighteen when you had a 486 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: tough race. I know this race is not going to 487 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 4: be particularly tough, but money still matters. So yeah, I'd 488 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 4: encourage you to go do in which you can at 489 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: Marshall Blackburn dot com. Sorry to cut you off, but 490 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 4: I'll give you my endortion. 491 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 6: No, I appreciate that. And of course I think that 492 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 6: what we need to do is everybody say, President Trump, 493 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 6: you tell me what I need to do to help 494 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: you win, and I'm going to do it. That's what 495 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 6: I'm doing. I'm saying, I am here, I am fully supportive. 496 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 6: We want to make certain that you win this race. 497 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 6: And when it comes to someone who would serve as 498 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 6: his vice president, I want him to make the decision 499 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 6: of the person that he thinks is going to stand 500 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 6: there and help him every step of the way to 501 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 6: accomplish what he wants to accomplish. Because we've got a 502 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: long to do list in this country. We need to 503 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: cut the size of this bureaucracy. We need to seal 504 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 6: our southern border. We need to make certain that we 505 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 6: keep the tax cuts that President Trump put in place 506 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 6: in twenty seventeen and in twenty twenty five that is 507 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 6: going to be in a very active battle on Capitol Hill. 508 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 6: We need to make those tax cuts permanent. We need 509 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 6: to have somebody at his right hand that understands that 510 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 6: Hesbila and Hamas and the Hoofies, these are all prozis 511 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 6: for a run. We need somebody that's going to understand 512 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 6: that China is an adversary, that they're not a competitor. 513 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 6: And I want President Trump to have the brightest and 514 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 6: the best around him helping get this country on the 515 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 6: right track. 516 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 4: Awesome stuff. Go check out Marsha Blackburn dot com. Good 517 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 4: luck on the reelect, Senator. We appreciate you hanging out 518 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 4: with us. 519 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 3: You got it. That is Senator Marsha Blackburn. 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Appreciate all you weighing in, and we've 560 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: been talking about a ton of different stories so far today. 561 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Obviously it is the New Hampshire primary day and we'll 562 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: dive right back into New Hampshire Primary at the top 563 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: of the next But Jeff in South Carolina, what you 564 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: got for us? 565 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 6: Hello? 566 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 9: Oh I miss rush. I wanted to point out something 567 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 9: that nobody's realized yet. The first primary on the Democrat 568 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 9: side is South Carolina. I'm a pull manager here and 569 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 9: in South Carolina you can choose on the day if 570 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 9: you're going to vote on the Republican or the Democrat side. Now, 571 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 9: the Democrats of Cluster messed everything up, so they pulled 572 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 9: it back until February third. But once Donald Trump wraps 573 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 9: up in New Hampshire, all the Republicans are going to say, I'm. 574 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 5: Going to hedge my back because I want somebody. 575 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 9: Smarter than a doorstop as president, and they're going to 576 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 9: go vote in the Democrat primary and they're going to 577 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 9: vote for the Steen Phillips. Gentlemen, you know what I had. 578 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 4: Thank you for the call, Jeff in South Carolina, Buck. 579 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: I hadn't even thought about this. If NICKI Haley loses 580 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 4: today by a substantial margin, and as we expect that 581 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: she will, and if she were to drop off, we 582 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 4: could have Operation Chaos in effect, where a lot of 583 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 4: you out there listening Trump is the nominee, you could 584 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: have the opportunity to go vote for Dean Phillips and 585 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: embarrass Biden. Now here's the challenge. I actually want Biden 586 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 4: to be the nominee. I think Biden is the weakest 587 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: possible Democrat nominee. I would prefer that they not try 588 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: and replace him with someone younger, with a functional brand. 589 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 2: But I think you can embarrass him and it doesn't 590 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: matter because he's going to be the guy, so might 591 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: as well embarrass him, you know what I mean? 592 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: But I know you think they're gonna get a m 593 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: But I don't think. 594 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: I think. Look, I mean, I'm actually more intrigued. Maybe 595 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: I'm in the rarity here in the minority. I'm actually 596 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: more intrigued to see what kind of vote support Dean 597 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 4: Phillips gets in New Hampshire than I am, Nicky Hayley, 598 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 4: because Dean Phillips has no more organizational structure. He hasn't 599 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: spent tens of millions of dollars, he hasn't gotten massive 600 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 4: amounts of media attention. If he gets thirty five or 601 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 4: forty percent of the vote in New Hampshire. Remember they 602 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 4: tried to say, remember Joe Scarborough. Oh, it's an embarrassment 603 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 4: that Trump only got fifty one percent. 604 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 3: Of the vote. 605 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 4: What if this guy that nobody knows in New Hampshire 606 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: gets thirty five percent of the vote against Joe Biden, Like, 607 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 4: that's a pretty monster indictment of Joe Biden buck given 608 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 4: the fact that he can't even I think Dean Phillips 609 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 4: doesn't even have any money at least Nikki Haley and 610 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 4: Ron DeSantis raised hundreds of millions of dollars bom. 611 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: Biden has effectively moved the primary starting in South Carolina. 612 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it embarrasses him, don't. I don't think 613 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 3: he really cares. 614 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: I think that the Democrats, I think they're they're I 615 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: think Democrats in general are immune to embarrassment, at least 616 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 2: the ones who are in public life. I think that's 617 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: not something that I don't think Joe Biden sits around 618 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: being like, am I ever embarrassing because he wouldn't leave 619 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 2: the house if. 620 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 3: That were the He doesn't have any clue what's going on? 621 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: Richie in Lady Lake, Florida. What you got for us? Richie? 622 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 7: Oh, how are you guys? 623 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 3: I just you know, I love your show and I 624 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 3: just told. 625 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 7: This cool screen it's amazing that you guys have one 626 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 7: of you a novel, because I know if. 627 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 6: You I would. 628 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 10: I would love to come down to the station, give 629 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 10: you five thousand cash. You could put it in a 630 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 10: draw and we'll bet Michelle Obama is one thousand percent 631 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 10: going to be there, kind. 632 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,959 Speaker 4: Of Ritchie's a smart man. Where are you from, Richie? 633 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 4: Like New Jersey, New York and you moved down to Florida. 634 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? 635 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I moved down to Florida twenty twenty when they 636 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 7: shut it down in the Communist. 637 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: From where it was Governor. 638 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 7: I was on Long Island for a long time. 639 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: Oh okay, So, Richie, you're a fellow New Yorker and 640 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 2: you're being a turncoat here and going to play on 641 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 2: the Michelle Obama issue. You're gonna put Richie's on the ball. Richie, Richie, 642 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: I expect more from Strong Island. 643 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 7: I'm not a turncoat. I'm just telling you the truth. 644 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 7: There's no way he's running. It's already been playing. If 645 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 7: you if you read. 646 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Cindy Adams column this morning. 647 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 7: She'll tell you it's already. 648 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 9: It's already in the works. 649 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you're going with mister Tennessee over a 650 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: fellow Floridian ex New Yorker on this one. And I'm 651 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna look back on this day, Richie, 652 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 2: You're gonna say I should have bet On buck Man. 653 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't know five grand you want to put her 654 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 2: to draw that it's Michelle Obama. I bet you would 655 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: get serious. And Richie, by the way, great call man, 656 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 2: and thank you for checking in on I was appreciate it, 657 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 2: and thank you for listening to the show. I think 658 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: you'd get actually, are there odds available on this? 659 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Michelle Obama buck is the third most likely 660 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 4: person to be elected president of the United States right 661 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 4: now in the odds market. 662 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 3: You've got to be kidding. No, it's true. What have 663 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 3: you done, Clay, what have you done? I blame you 664 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: for this. This number one is Trump. 665 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 4: If you're looking in the odds markets right now, number 666 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: one is Trump. Number two is Biden. Number three is 667 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 4: Michelle Obama most likely to be elected president of the 668 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 4: United States in twenty twenty four. Makes you a little nervous, 669 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 4: doesn't it, Calvin? 670 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 2: I know this is like mass delusions, freddick everywhere. 671 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Dalvin, in is it Santa quinn Utah? 672 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 5: It's Santa quinn Utah. 673 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Well, thank you for calling in. What 674 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: you got for us? 675 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 5: Hey, I'm a retired Border Patrol agent and I'm just 676 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 5: a clarification. The Border Patrol has statute authority to patrol 677 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: public and private lands within twenty five miles of the border, 678 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 5: and I see this Supreme Court decisions as affirming their 679 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 5: statute authority. 680 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: Thank you, and look, I mean really again, thank you 681 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: for the call and h and laying that out. 682 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: Really, what is being decided is who is the decider 683 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 4: right when you have a dispute between state of the 684 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 4: governor and the and the president, who has the authority? 685 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: And I think that. 686 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 2: I would say, you know, I would say, if if 687 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: you know his border patrol able to say under this, 688 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 2: like Biden rubric, you know, you guys have to build 689 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: a road here in Texas for us, because we need 690 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 2: that for the State of Texas. 691 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 3: Have to do that. 692 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you start to say, what 693 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 2: are the limits of their authority as it pertains to 694 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 2: I mean putting down razor wire on State of Texas land, 695 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: which it is, seems to be something that Texas could 696 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 2: do under its police. The only way that they've made 697 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 2: this a federal issue, really, Clay, is they say it 698 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 2: inhibits their work. 699 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's that's the part of this. 700 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 2: That's why I think for Supreme Court Justice has said, no, 701 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't inhibit their work. 702 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 4: Well, I think what it calls into stark reality is 703 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 4: Biden wants the border wide open. 704 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 3: That's what he's arguing to the Supreme Court.